Essay by Eric Worrall
“… individuals don’t feel they have the bandwidth to tackle climate action “on top of everything else,” …”
AP-NORC poll: Many in US doubt their own impact on climate
By HANNAH FINGERHUT and NUHA DOLBY
WASHINGTON (AP) — Americans are less concerned now about how climate change might impact them personally — and about how their personal choices affect the climate — than they were three years ago, a new poll shows, even as a wide majority still believe climate change is happening.
The June Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research poll, which was conducted before Congress passed the Inflation Reduction Act on Friday, shows majorities of U.S. adults think the government and corporations have a significant responsibility to address climate change. The new law will invest nearly $375 billion in climate strategies over the next decade.
Overall, 35% of U.S. adults say they are “extremely” or “very” concerned about the impact of climate change on them personally, down from 44% in August 2019. Another third say they are somewhat concerned. Only about half say their actions have an effect on climate change, compared with two-thirds in 2019.
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Many climate scientists told The Associated Press that the shifts are concerning but not surprising given that individuals are feeling overwhelmed by a range of issues, now including an economy plagued by inflation after more than two years of a pandemic. In addition to being outpaced by other issues, climate change or the environment are mentioned as priorities by fewer Americans now than just a few years ago, according to the poll.
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While the climate crisis will require an “all of the above approach,” it’s “reasonable” that individuals don’t feel they have the bandwidth to tackle climate action “on top of everything else,” said Kim Cobb, director of the Institute at Brown University for Environment and Society.
Read more: https://apnews.com/article/inflation-science-technology-climate-and-environment-9038738cbda161f43e5d0d2fbd5e738b
I believe there is a simpler explanation for this fall in concern – the exaggerated Covid panic has damaged public faith in our institutions. People are less ready to believe other exaggerated scare stories. Look how flat the Monkeypox scare has fallen.
And people really do have a lot more real issues to worry about lately, like out of control inflation, gasoline prices, war in Ukraine, and simmering tensions in the South China Sea.
Wolf!
Exactly. Too many times now.
Wolf…$ Wolf…$
A fellow can be forgiven for compiling a wish list.
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Memorandum
To: “Covering Climate Now”, “Inside Climate News”, NPR, PBS, Seth Borenstein, Rebecca Hersher, Nell Greenfieldboyce
From: AP/NORC Center for Public Affairs Research
Subject: Staffing Redundancy
You might want to start thinking about a new line of work.
They could always learn to code.
Assembling hamburgers or shaking grease from French fries in a run down greasy spoon drive-thru is too good for them.
Please, no. Can you imagine what their code would look like? Would it even work? They’d probably change the unit tests to match what the code does instead of fixing the code!
Nah… Their code would just always be one line [Print Propaganda]
Easy-peasy 😉
The green blob has of course contributed mightly to this. They say nothing about the sacrifices ordinary folks (not the elites however) will have to make to achieve this socialistic dream of theirs (total social domination), but attack oil companies etc blaming them. Everybody today thinks the fight will be fought by somebody else, promoted by the blob because the blob knows they won’t submit to their own economic destruction.
Why should any of us be concerned about war in Ukraine? Except for the about of $$$ we are wasting there.
Perhaps because of the threats of nuclear missiles being used, including against the US?
US nuclear missiles could already have been plunged decades ago (late 1940s / early 1950s) into Moscow, Pyöngyang and Peking. That is, if they had ever had been serious about fighting terrorism. It serves them right if terror from all sides comes now home to them! After all, they started the ruin of the civilized world by siding with the Serbian terrorists in 1914 instead of helping Austria and Germany quench the Socialist cancer while it was still small.
Why don’t any other countries fear “threats of nuclear missiles being used”? Mexico? Canada? anyone in South America of Africa?
Why just countries that have highly corrupt governments using Ukraine as a money laundry mat in fear of Russia escalation?
They are not direct targets of a nuclear exchange with Russia or China. We are.
only thanks to bidet and the hag NK or china more likely
Do you really think Russia is going to launch nukes at Mexico or Canada?
The solution to that problem is simple: DUMP Biden! It’s HIS war, after all, and he alone is responsible for the US being involved in it! So far, to the tune HOW MANY $BILLIONS??
People said the same thing when German tanks rolled into Czechoslovakia.
It is our best chance to severly damagew the Russian Army. More importantly it is a good chance to show China that invading Taiwan will be their downfall too. Ancient Chinese saying:
Kill Chicken, Scare Monkey.
It is also very inexpensive far less than we spent in Afghanistan or Iraq and far less than Corporate slush Brandon wants to hand out.
As MarkW says: People said the same thing when German tanks rolled into Czechoslovakia.
The point is that Ukraine is a first step for Russia and China. If the west shows no spine and lets them take Ukraine, then Moldova, Poland, Taiwan, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Finland, Australia all follow, one after the other. The longer it goes on unchecked, the worse the world war will be when the west does finally show spine. The best option for the west is to show spine right at the start, and if that starts a world war then so be it – it is likely to be a ‘better’ world war than one that starts later.
“If you want peace, prepare for war.” – Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus (4th century)
As I’ve said before, if Russia does decide to invade any of the NATO countries, it’s WWIII, which won’t end well
Absolutely
Whoever produces weapons is making big bucks. War in Ukraine is a problem for Europe and a very profitable business for the US and China
What this article says in short ….35% of Americans are gullible, ignorant, and grow good wool. Any reasonable effort can show that there is no climate crisis outside of climate models which have always been wrong
Scott Adams maintains an approximate 25% of any population fits those parameters.
reckon its closer to 50% at least
Scott Adams is an optimist.
Peak climate alarm.
Seriously. People are getting bored that the world hasn’t ended yet. It’s only alarmist’s with a profit to make who have the stamina to keep up the noise, and of course us sceptics, because we’re just pig headed.
Yeah, what climate crisis?
The one that’s been OMG! Only 10 years away if we don’t act now! for the last 50 years. That Climate Crisis™.
Only 10 years away if we don’t act now!
Somehow, there’s this idea that humans will be extinct in 3 years going around. We’ve had someone asking about it here – but now I’m seeing it all over social media.
I haven’t heard that one yet, TonyG. I’ll keep my eyes peeled. Thanks for the heads up.
“Climate Crisis” hit the buttons. The PR mistake was the use of the phrase “Climate Emergency“.
People know what an emergency is. It’s urgent. It’s taken seriously, like the World Wars and Covid were. Huge demands made of the people to fight the enemy; human or virus.
Clearly, AGW is not an emergency. There is no need to drop everything and only do that. People can see that. The words do not match the rhetoric.
So if it’s not being treated as an emergency yet that is what it’s being touted as… it must be nothing.
This logic isn’t sound but in PR terms it is effective. The issue is mis-advertised by its proponents so it’s not worth attention.
Uhhh, you went and ruined it with your stupid COVID comparison.
What is it about the 1,062,000 people killed in the Usa by COVID that represents an exaggeration? Or the 95 million total cases, of which 5 million have not recovered due to being dead, or permanently disabled?
You know, the fact the COVID is the biggest killer disease pandemic in US history despite the most modern of medical treatment techniques, general population health, and the miraculous overnight development of vaccines proven beyond any shadow of any possible doubt as being effective in prevent serious illness and death? In spite of these advantages, COVID has still caused vastly mortality than the last great pandemic, the 1918 Flu Pandemic. And it’s not over yet – nearly 1,700 dying of COVID in the USA every day – virtually all of whom are the brainless anti-VAXXers.
Yeah, THAT hoax you you and the ridiculous Trumplicans and anti-VAXXERs and various other assorted brain dead troglogytes of the USA continue to scoff at.
So Duane, if you can be convinced to believe in manmade MIRACLES, I guess it’s not a stretch to get why you reckon the Gates-Fauci-Moderna-Pfizer prophylactics (not “vaccines” or “immunizers”), caused, and are still causing, unresearched health damage on a scale worse than the 1955 first-generation Polio vaccine debacle.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/04/14/cutter-polio-vaccine-paralyzed-children-coronavirus/
As with climate “remedies”, the rush to be seen to “do something”, without adequate forethought and/or research, and the lure of taxpayer $$$$, always leads to tragic debacles.
Couldn’t agree more that the vaccines are causing more adverse health effects than are being reported. My wife ended up with a bad case of shingles after her third shot. I have heard from quite a few people that they or someone they know got shingles after receiving shots. Yet, you won’t find any reports in MSM on the connection.
The patent holder of the mRNA messenger molecule isolation technology (Dr Robert Malone) warned that it was not suitable as the delivery vehicle for the Moderna, Pfizer, Johnson etc “vaccines”.
One of the effects that has now been discovered is that the additives proteins spikes of the COVID mRNA “vaccines” do not, as originally claimed, disappear from our systems after a few days / weeks. They take up residence in our immune systems.
Dr Malone warned that this would happen, and that the introduced resident additives would seek to detect and react against natural immune responses in unresearched and uncertain ways.
The rollout of unintentional deleterious effects of these “vaccines” will take years yet.
But they are not using Dr Malone’s patented messenger RNA because they did not want to pay him. To get around the patent an element is synthesised which may be the cause of the problems.
Hmmm. I got shingles, too! Didn’t know about the connection.
Shingles are now designated ‘monkey pox’ (and there’s even a miraculous vaccine) except the WHO are objecting to the cultural association with that term.
Which only a sicko could concoct.
WTF is wrong with people today?
BTW I hope that’s the only thing you get.
no monkeypox is NOT shingles, but the vaccine and boosters probably are why its managed such a good hold, with weakened not strengthened immune systems which WAS warned about and ignored
I had my 3rd shot – Moderna mRNA – just before Christmas 2021. I have nearly recovered, I hope, from the debilitating condition which began with a vengeance a very few hours after the vaccine and which a specialist later told me point blank could not have been caused by the vaccine. I looked it up in the VAERS database (Vaccine adverse events) and found over 30,000 similar cases for the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine. It’s the lies that are the main problem.
Mike, I’m sorry to hear that but I opted to wait until clinical trials of the ‘vaccines’ were concluded in 2023 before getting any.
I’m not anti vax at all. I have had a flu shot in the past, but I just don’t get why people queued to get an untested shot.
I don’t care what the condition is, the clinical trails rigour was largely the result of Thalidomide effects which were horrendous. But in a matter of months, 50 years of clinical protocol was consigned to the bin.
I just don’t get why anyone who follows this website would defy science.
I have had the flu jab the last 2 years but am not sure I really want it this year given the failure of the NHS to be trustworthy.
Interesting that Israel has stopped a rabies vaccine for animals after a handful of adverse reactions – but injecting covid vax into humans continues. No great fortune to be had in rabies vax then?
I too had a medical event shortly after the “vaccination”. 6 doctors gave their opinion – 3 said I had had a heart attack, and 3 said I had not. The most believable one for me was the doctor who said I had not, as I woke up on the operating table having had a wire inserted into my heart from a wrist. I’m happy to believe him!
No recurrence, but I won’t be having any booster shot! All this, incidentally, with no previous history of any heart problem.
Dear God that’s awful. I hope you or your doctor reported it to VAERS, but more than that, I sincerely hope you are OK.
Was that your first shot?
I didn’t get jabbed. I’m not an anti vaxer I just wanted to see what the clinical trials would reveal in 2023.
I know of numerous people who have fallen ill, but shouldn’t have fallen ill following the vaccinations.
Something is very wrong. I don’t know what it is but I believe the jabs should be stopped until scrutinised clinical trials are concluded.
Um, nope…Covid isn’t the worst pandemic in recent history.
Here, quoted directly from the CDC website
“The 1918 H1N1 flu pandemic, sometimes referred to as the “Spanish flu,” killed an estimated 50 million people worldwide, including an estimated 675,000 people in the United States.1,2,3,4 An unusual characteristic of this virus was the high death rate it caused among healthy adults 15 to 34 years of age.3 The pandemic lowered the average life expectancy in the United States by more than 12 years.3 A comparable death rate has not been observed during any of the known flu seasons or pandemics that have occurred either prior to or following the 1918 pandemic.3”
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/reconstruction-1918-virus.html
I believe many of the deaths were because people were forced to wear masks. Found to be contaminated with all sorts.
A ‘clinical’ mask (those natty little blue numbers) are only supposed to be worn for 20 minutes at a time. Yet people stuff them into their filthy pockets and purses, and use them for weeks, when it looks good.
Disgusting things.
I spent almost 6 months over 2020/21 in a general hospital, the most covid infectious place on earth.
I refused the jab, I refused to wear a mask, I refused to socially distance, and despite 4 hip replacements after the first got infected, and being at my lowest possible resistance ebb, I didn’t get covid, I got three colds over the last two and a half years.
How did I get a cold and not covid???
Many years ago when AIDS was a major issue I recall that a research doctor received a reward (Nobel Prize maybe?) for his work, and that he used the example of a person flying around the world stopping at many airports and kissing somebody, that person would most likely develop AIDS being a cocktail of virus attacking the immune system probably resulting in death.
your cold helped give you a boost to immunity FROM covid;-) be glad you got it
Wow, you are a lucky chap HotScot. The NHS infected my friend’s mother when she was in hospital and killed her. They got not clapping or banging of pans from me.
Duane, you should publish “I am lying” before every comment.
I checked every comment before yours, and no one mentioned COVID yet. So what are you babbling about?
The current daily AVERAGE of deaths WITH Covid is 411 per day. That means anyone dying from any cause within 28 days of a positive Covid test. Even if they died after the car they were driving hit a tree. A meaningless statistic, which you lied about.
The large majority of people dying WITH Covid are vaccinated in every nation where such data are available. You are lying again.
The vaccines are the least safe vaccines, by far, in US history based on serious ADVERSE SIDE EFFECTS REPORTED TO VAERS
The vaccines do not prevent deaths
US excess deaths
High numbers from April 2020 through June 2022
US all cause mortality
Slighter higher in 2021 than in 2020 with no vaccines AND ALSO FEWER PEOPLE WITH NATURAL ANTIBODIES AFTER RECOVERING FROM COVID IN 2020, COMPARED WITH 2021, which is an advantage for 2021
US deaths with Covid
Much higher in 2021, with vaccines, than in 2020, with no vaccines
I caught you lying repeatedly.
Duane– Maybe a little more experience would help. (1) We successfully built up an unprecedented large number of susceptible elderly over decades. (2) This was technically not a vaccine. (3) There is considerable evidence that it was politicized both in the news and leaked. (4) There have been many serious failures of hurried vaccines and the best always have some measure of risk. My grandfather nearly died from the 1918 flu and two died in my high school class from polio. That was only part of my considerable incentive to do homework. Those who use pejoratives with anti- this or that always indicate that they need much more homework. I also told a younger relative who had used the anti-v term that. I was vaccinated, quite possibly a mistake, certainly so if I would had let any children.
Agree; the comparison to Covid was unwarranted and lacking in logic.
https://rumble.com/v1acoaa-up-to-100-million-will-die-from-cv19-vax-by-2028-dr-david-martin.html
DuhWayne; I used to believe the narrative that the “vaccines” prevented serious cases of and deaths from Covid too. But, unlike you, I have a fundamental mistrust of anything the Dimocrats tell me. So, I looked up the studies.
Israel has 4x the fraction of fully vaccinated as Palestine. The two populations mingle and Palestinians are allowed into Israel for health care. Israel, despite being much more highly vaccinated, has exactly the same death rate per capita from Covid as Palestine, .079%.
When are YOU going to figure out that the Dims are a bunch of liars? Repeating their falsehoods makes you a liar too.
I think that Spanish Flu is the second deadliest global pandemic after the Black Death in terms of percentage of population.
There have been several influenza pandemics including Hong Kong and Asian variants in the 1950s and 1960s. So you could say Covid has a way to go yet compared to Flu
The Plague of Justinian in the 540s may well have been as deadly.
Like droughts pandemics don’t happen that often and just because politicians, journalists and experts say it’s the worst recorded it doesn’t become the worst ever or unique
Over human history, Tuberculosis has killed more humans than any other disease.
Is poverty a disease?
Just asking.
I’ve read (unconfirmed) that CDC wants to study it as one, so who knows…
Ben Vorlich: “[…] and just because politicians, journalists and experts say it’s the worst recorded it doesn’t become the worst ever or unique.”
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A politician will proclaim a stubbed toe is the “worst ever and I am going to fight for the eradication of stubbed toes.” They know they need to be seen as doing something, anything right or wrong, to justify their phony-baloney jobs.
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Idle question: why do politicians always “fight” for or against something, yet I’ve never seen one with so much as a split lip or a bloody nose? They are always fighting for or against something, yet I’ve never seen so much as a broken fingernail on anyone of them.
and their programs are always going to “keep us safe”.
For example, Trudeau’s every response to his government’s legislative atrocities is that it’s going to “Keep Canadians Safe”.
The sub-text that’s always missing though is –
“but not their bank accounts”
Nothing humanity have ever achieved has been without risk, and optimism.
The anti risk, optimism lite culture must end, or humanity will wither on the vine.
“What is it about the 1,062,000 people killed in the Usa by COVID that represents an exaggeration?”
Yes, 1MM people “killed” in the FUSA by CoViD is a gross exaggeration. There is so much information available now to put the “killed by CoViD” numbers somewhere a little higher than a typically heavy flu season.
More people died from government’s forced mandates, cessation of treatment, fentanyl and other lock-down associated ills than by the Wuhan Death Miasma.
So far, I haven’t seen any real discussion of why no one died from the seasonal flu, during the 2020,2021 and into the 2022 years. It seems that everyone who die during that time died from Covid-19! No matter whether they were killed in an auto or motorcycle accident the death certificate said ‘Covid-19’, or at least complications from it. When a vaccine is rushed into production, as this one surely was, you can’t expect it to be effective OR safe! Only Fauci claimed it was either of them!
Duane, your stats are BS.
This is a surprise?
Duane, a million deaths is not so different to a bad flu outbreak. A similar number of people died of influenza in 2017-18 – yet nobody shut down the global economy to deal with a bad flu year.
I’m not denying Covid is a horrible disease, what I am saying is the response was disproportionate. Admittedly this wasn’t obvious in the early days, the early reports from China were terrifying, but the lockdowns and other restrictions should have been lifted as soon as it was obvious Covid wasn’t the big killer everyone feared.
Interestingly there maybe be an explanation for why China had such a bad experience compared to everyone else. There is a real possibility Covid interacted badly with Chinese SARS vaccines.
Northern Italy had similar death tolls.
It seems most likely it was because Covid is far more dangerous to the elderly and far more transmissible between people who are out socialising.
Thus societies where several generations of a family share a home (as opposed to just two) had far more deaths.
Have we yet experienced the worst impacts on economies from COVID-19 pandemic lockdowns and other restrictions?
Cost of living rising quickly, goods in short supply for all sectors of the private sector as well as inflation pushing the cost higher by every month and more.
By, or with…………
It’s hard to keep up ‘climate momentum’ when:
I’ve noticed the perpetual scare propaganda consortium is testing a new boogeyman called “forever chemicals”. It’s apparently based on finding trace amounts of synthetic chemicals virtually everywhere. E.g. a recent article claiming rain water is unsafe to drink everywhere on earth. Of course this requires acceptance of the Linear-No-Threshold theory which has almost exactly the same scientific credibility as homeopathy.
Oh I dunno, Rick. I have a Linear-No-Threshold limit for politicians’ and gub’mint B.S. The theory holds up pretty well there.
If they keep their mouth shut, all is well. As soon as the first word comes out, it’s B.S. No amount above zero is B.S.-free.
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The Maldives and Lower Manhattan remain firmly above the waves, the poley bears continue to thrive, the North Pole remains ice bound and here in Australia we are facing a third La Nina in a row, despite the apocalyptic warnings of devastating, perpetual drought. No wonder people are losing ‘the faith’!
The Mangroves, whaddabout da Mangroves?
You evil capitalist! La Nina’s are a white supremacist plot. It’s obvious I tell you!
Ve vill ensure humanity vears sandals and ze vite socks for their own security! Resistance is futile.
You vill comply!!!!!
I wonder what the poll would say if more people knew how broken the scientific support for alarmism is, the reasons why its so broken and why it’s so hard to get corrected.
I agree, but isn’t the percentage of alarmism-supporters just an indication of pathetically poor education at secondary level? Especially amongst supposedly “senior” politicians like Kerry, Biden, and the other grifters!
It’s a good point but I fear the polls wouldn’t change.
So many people do not believe they themselves could understand the scientific support. So they just accept the sovereignty of the experts.
And 97% agree that…
“35% of U.S. adults say they are “extremely” or “very” concerned about the impact of climate change on them personally, “
After 47 years of mild, harmless global warming, accompanied by 47 years of wrong predictions of rapid, dangerous global warming, 35% still fear the future climate? That’s like a religion. And that’s the result effective propaganda.
When there is a poll, we are entitled to know how people were selected to participate AND we are entitled to see the actual polling question and possible answers. That’s how you start to analyze a poll for bias. I have no idea what the question was, not could I find it at the website below with a 10 minute search. Does anyone know?
NORC at the University of Chicago | Research You Can Trust | NORC.org
All climate change related polls have the potential bias of people virtue signaling that they are worried about climate change. because that is a popular leftist thing to say. Most people wat to be popular.
Even when a poll is claimed to be anonymous, some people still worry about what they say, and others refuse to participate. People with unpopular opinions are more likely to refuse to participate.
Of course every taxpayer would be concerned about the weather .
Because their politicians call it climate change and then increase taxes and cost of living to deal with it .
All pain and no gain for the taxpayer .
Polls, schmolls.
Oi vey……..
The enacted “solutions” to CAGW are proving to be more harmful than the projections.
In other words, “Saving the Planet” sounded good then but it sure doesn’t feel good now!
A lot like the the old medical joke. The operation was a success, but the patient died.
The problem with bleeding heart liberalism is if you bleed too much, you die.
But it’s not their heart that is going to bleed. It’s always other peoples‘ hearts.
Reality is doing climate change to death.
None of the science in the world figured that energy bills people can’t pay would be the death of climate alarmism.
Make no mistake, a sea change is coming.
How many times does someone need to hear “We’re all going to die! Real soon now!” that never happens before they cease paying attention?
Sometimes some learned to take the source with “a grain of salt”.
The whole CAGW hype first came to the forefront of my attention with AL Gore’s “An Inconvenient Truth”.
I remembered Al Gore as VP. No reason to trust him. I started to look into things myself.
(Some may remember comments and tables changed high and low records I put up for “my little spot on the globe”.)
That was about 5 years before I found WUWT.
Almost identical time line mate.
Gore’s ‘theories’ were just too perfect.
Nothing in life is that perfect, so I began to dig.
What does “address” climate change mean?
There’s nothing in the $375 Billion that can or will have any measurable impact on the atmosphere, climate or weather. In other words, do nothing.
That leaves all of that money to go towards “addressing”.
It must be that “Addressing” can only mean lining the pockets of the climate crusaders.
Pretty much
Yes, that’s what “addressing” means.
It should never have been high enough to plummet.
“Americans are less concerned now about how climate change might impact them personally — and about how their personal choices affect the climate — than they were three years ago, a new poll shows, even as a wide majority still believe climate change is happening.”
I have no idea if this poll from AP-NORC is worthwhile or not, I haven’t seen it. Almost every poll I have seen is not up to par. One thing I don’t need is them interpreting the poll for me, their interpretation is nothing more than their opinion, I don’t give a damn about their opinion. Who is NORC anyway?
Of course they believe climate change is happening, it has always done so and will continue to do so.
The question should be “Does CO2 have any great effect on climate change?” There is still no proof that it has a significant bad effect and considerable proof that it is beneficial.
I wish the “polls” would ask the right questions.
Yes!
In the past many polls have shown popular “concern” about Global Warming/Climate Change.
Some we followed up with a question of how much would they pay to eliminate the threat.
Any amount past pocket change saw the results drop dramatically.
I really don’t think both global temperatures and atmospheric CO2 being down this low (bottom right) is a good idea.
All meaningful life dies around 150ppm atmospheric CO2.
The planet today is around 250ppm away from, absolute, guaranteed, certain, 100% extinction. Talk about bumping along the bottom!
I’ll gamble that atmospheric CO2 content in line with mother nature’s optimum threshold for plant life at around 1,200ppm is our best bet for humanity’s survival.
I’m not convinced this is a difficult scientific equation.
I love this graph.
NORC.
No One Really Cares.
I think.
Hard to say what is most nauseating, the AP’s push on the questions, their spin on the results or their patronizing excuse for people not giving them the right answers.
“And people really do have a lot more real issues to worry about lately, like out of control inflation, gasoline prices, war in Ukraine, and simmering tensions in the South China Sea.”
Just about all these issues are fallout from draconian Climate Policy-Caused problems. Having deliberately crippled the Oil and Gas industry and along with it the N- fertilizer availability at cheap prices, destroyed reliable electrical grids causing rocketing prices and shuttering key manufacturering activity and jobs, and wrecking agriculture, a global economic disaster is just beginning and famine looms large.
Even the Russia choosing to invade Ukraine and China sabre-rattling can be chalked up to correctly judging that self-immolation of the West’s economies, industrial might and impoverishment and growing hunger of its peoples presented opportunities that otherwise would not have availed themselves. Even USA showed itself to have no appetite for fighting.
Climate scientists opining that inflation is just because of recovery from Covid, are clearly in denial about the huge part they played in the human disaster playing out. I feel we should be pushing their faces in it at every opportunity.
Putin has stated he’s after the world ‘elite’ and Ukraine is the blue touchpaper.
Not in Europe it isn’t…
How’s your energy bills going Griff?
UK and Europe have state broadcasters producing 24×7 climate fear. In other places they sometimes take a breath.
It is up… due to fossil fuel prices.
and it rained yesterday for the first time in months… local record new high temperature recently
All that green investment and still nothing to show for it…
What happened to all that ultra cheap renewable energy?
Oh! I forgot, it’s subsidised by us taxpayers and it’s backed up by fossil fuel energy.
It’s summertime in the UK! We don’t want it to rain in summer!
I remember the last time we had a ‘drought’ here and idiots like you were running around with your hair on fire. Shortly after it rained so much there were floods, and you bitched about that as well.
Local new high temperature record…….recorded at an airport.
I’m old enough to remember when there was too much rain.
Ask if holiday should be canceled to fight climate change.
Flying is 3% of CO2… so it is at least not the highest priority.
Mankind’s CO2 emissions in total are 3% of all emissions, so we just stop flying to fix that do we?
It’s a test of buy-in……to the con.
Particularly in a Europe that can’t stop finding wisdom in Marx’s falsified political theories (tested by hundreds of millions of woebegone people) and the falsified global warming hypothesis of which every prediction made has failed), both invented in Europe.
Europe is afflicted by marxism?
Not these 30 years and more
LOL
griff contributes his usual dumb comment.
He must be mega wealthy because my energy bill increasing from £80 per month to about £300 a month in 18 months is causing considerable hardship in this household.
We are digging into our retirement savings just to live.
[snip] you griff.
My comment is waiting approval.
I’ll summarise it.
F*** You griff.
Can someone please cancel this serial agitator.
Fed up with the pr!ck now after years of tolerating him/her.
(He had been in moderation for a while now back on the page without moderation watch he is tolerated for now) SUNMOD
And there we have it: you moderate me IN ADVANCE, which means you are not in favour of completely free speech on climate.
As I have said before, if you want debate, then let me post
If you want an echo chamber for limited views, it is your privilege to ban me.
I think – I hope – I have never made any comment which is just abuse of someone with a different point of view.
Regurgitating your nonsense is not free speech, it’s stupidity.
Every time you make one of your idiotic posts you are ridiculed. But every day you trot along and make the same statements time and time again. You’re a stuck record with nothing to contribute.
I like your comments. They’re hysterical. It’s a reminder to me every day that some people have nothing better to do than be uneducated trolls. I really hope one day you can piece together a solid argument on something.
Much obliged.
Not in
EuropeGuardian readership it isn’t…Seriously? Across France, Spain and Italy? Germany and Switzerland? Only the Guardian thinks there’s a real climate impact, especially this year?
You don’t live in France, Spain and Italy. Germany and Switzerland though, do you griff?
Buzz off pest.
I can’t speak for the other countries, but I know Belgium and France very well indeed as I spend about half my life there, and I can tell you the citizens of those countries are vastly more preoccupied about how they are going to pay their housing, heating, lighting, and food costs. Climate Change doesn’t even register.
What climate impact is that english man?
I haven’t seen any polling to show that fear of AGW is declining in Europe but it seems very plausible that you are 100% right.
All European political parties are strongly alarmist. They wouldn’t be if their own polling showed that to be a vote loser.
All of Europe is currently seeing yet another drought/heatwave setting new records…
‘another’, being the key word and key influencer of opinion.
you would have to be daft not to notice that the climate is already changed with severe impacts on occasion right across Europe
What about the cold records being broken around the world?
How about the Gtons of extra ice on Greenland?
Why is the SMB increasing across the northern hemisphere if the world is warming catastrophically?
What is the cause, griff?
AGW is expected to cause 1° of warming in a century. Say that’s a huge underestimate and we’ve had 2° of warming instead. So what?
Record breaking temperatures of 15° above the mean temperature for that time of year!
Ignoring the fact that the variance isn’t being considered… only 2° is attributable to AGW anyway.
13° of warming is the weather. We get that regardless. We need to adapt to that regardless.
AGW is just irrelevant. Any resources spent on the 2° (NetZero) is wasted.
If your opinion is influenced by the weather you are a fickle follower of fashion.
Eastern Europe has been cooler. You can’t even get a basic statement correct.
Okay, let’s see the ad dollar spending on climate in 2019 vs. now.
Maybe they watched Brian Catt on Twitter
(Brian self-describes as An Equal Opportunity Annoyer)
The Chicken Little syndrome is kicking in and increasing day by day.
Establishment polls are manipulative bulls*it. Try 10% who truly fear gorebull warbling.
Sure, the present kinda sucks, but it’s imperative that the enlightened side of society block roads and bridges, as well as disrupting our energy supply to keep attention on this horrible problem that is dooming our future. Between road blocks and stopping those lousy farmers our future has never been brigher!!
When a left-leaning media financed by governments and institutions with the same agenda blow out of proportion every weather event from drought to flood to heat wave to cold snap to tornado to hurricane as positive proof of human-induced climate change, people stop listening. And when they hear the only way to stop these disasters is to accept higher taxes and restrictions, they really get stubborn about the issue because more and more they suspect a scam.
The June Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research poll, which was conducted before Congress passed the Inflation Reduction Act on Friday, shows majorities of U.S. adults think the government and corporations have a significant responsibility to address climate change.
Yep that’s the Gummint’s and Biz’s job to fix the climate and give us cheap renewable energy so the price of everything falls or at least stops rising. Isn’t that the way it works like we’ve been told?
From global warming to climate change to now “climate crisis” . So I am wondering what the next level of alarm beyond “climate crisis” will be. At some point the exaggerations lose their punch so require a verbal jump-start to scare voters into supporting moronic policies.
The fundamental problem is we’re not on the same planet as the climate changers-
‘Plucking words at random’ makes more sense than ‘anything’ Kamala Harris says (msn.com)
It’s the vibe man.
But “… out of control inflation, gasoline prices, war in Ukraine, and simmering tensions in the South China Sea …”, plus monkeypox, are all caused by fossil-fuel burning. (Di I need a \sarc?)
If you’re addressing Griff or Nick Stokes, then yes.
Well of course they aren’t…
They just add more misery to the impact of climate change – i.e. drought, fire, flood and storm; famine and population displacement.
Ain’t life wonderful?
griff are you sure you’re not James Dyke , Associate Professor at Exeter University latest book ‘Fire,Storm and Flood:The violence of climate change’?
When everything is crisis, nothing is.
The drought in Europe is apparently the worst since soon after WW2 but also a once in 500 years event?
Which one sounds scarier? Let’s go with that.
There’s a 1 in 500 chance of a 1 in 500 year event *every* year. And it’s the worse *since* soon after WWII then that would indicate a worse drought then. BEFORE any SUPPOSED ‘effects’ of CO2 ’emissions’ would have taken hold.
So nothing ‘new’ or “unprecedented” about it, aka WEATHER, not “climate.”
I think once the IPCC keynoted an autistic 12-year-old girl, people began to have too much of the BS. And 8 years of no trend in temperature has to matter, as well as the disasters in other places that have taken insane actions like banning ICE cars. I love how they ask the climate scientists about public opinion, as if propaganda is their job (it is).
Autistic or fetal alcohol syndrome? The mother reportedly likes her cocktails a lot.
A key requirement for us to solve our leadership crisis (people in leadership roils with minimal leaderships skills, critical thinking, or objectivity) is the requirement for individuals to mistrust authority and expertise. If you simply trust authority then whoever is in power will stay in power indefinitely no matter how bad the results. If you trust expertise you will quickly discover that a large group of experts have diametrically opposed views of how things work. Clearly we all need a way to decide when authority is working in our best interest and when not, and to discover among a herd of “experts” who has actually discovered the truth about how our world works and who is mistaken. Mistrust is also the foundation of science – skepticism is as desirable a human trait as civility, intelligence and initiative.
It is heart warming to see an increasing proportion of the public deciding that the most vocal pundits of doom are not to be believed.
They should “survey” regarding how many people are concerned about the economic destruction being done to implement ‘climate POLICY.”
I’d only take them seriously if they do something about glyphosate and 5G affecting the climate
The enthusiasm of the fine climate words has been damped by the reality of resource shortages, inflation and poverty. They said what they were going to do to reach net-zero. No one paid attention until they started doing it. No doubt the true believers will double down and say we just need more, stronger action and it will be better next time.
I remember, Mr Monckton, was full on for lockdown back in the day – https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/08/18/lockdown-effects-feared-killing-people-covid/