Essay by Eric Worrall
If only ordinary people realised that Blockade Australia just want to help.
Blockade Australia shut down Sydney with climate change protests. Now they’re fighting arrests in court
Background Briefing / By Geoff Thompson
Posted Sun 14 Aug 2022 at 5:00amSunday 14 Aug 2022 at 5:00am, updated Sun 14 Aug 2022 at 8:48am…
The message, essentially, is this: Australia’s economy is inherently exploitative and extractive and if catastrophic global warming is to have a chance of being prevented, Australia as we know it must be stopped in its tracks.
Not surprisingly, for politicians, the police and much of the public, that’s a lot to swallow.
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“People say to us over and over again, isn’t there another way? Can’t you be more polite and write letters and do things through the proper channels?”
“But it hasn’t worked. It hasn’t worked.”
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“The main thing is this issue with the punitive, repressive fines and jail terms that they’re threatening us with,” she says.
Elizabeth’s referring to amendments to the NSW Roads Act, which passed back in April.
The changes make it an offence punishable by up to two years jail and/or a $22,000 fine if anyone damages or seriously disrupts or obstructs the Sydney Harbour Bridge or Tunnel or “other main roads”.
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All of the Blockade Australia protesters have pleaded not guilty to the offence of obstructing the Bridge, the Tunnel or “other main roads”.
Except 22-year-old Mali Cooper — who parked her car across the entrance to Sydney Harbour Tunnel in North Sydney.
None of their hearings are expected to be before court before next year.
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Read more: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-14/blockade-australia-arrests-for-protesting-on-road-harbour-bridge/101320368
In Australia disruptive protestors sometimes face arrest and prosecution, even if they support left wing causes.
I support the right to protest. If someone wants to hang a few banners on the sidewalk and shout their message to passers by, the right to protest is a key pillar of a free society.
But Blockade Australia didn’t just want to protest, they allegedly tried to set up roadblocks, to block traffic for extended periods. They didn’t act like they cared about ambulances ferrying the desperately ill to hospitals they couldn’t reach, or workers rushing to get home to their kids, they intentionally inflicted indiscriminate misery on ordinary people, just to make a political point. And now they are being charged with breaking the law.
Blockade Australia’s rationalisation for their alleged crime was ordinary people are not listening – but not being forced to listen to lunatics spouting apocalyptic nonsense is also a god given right in a free society.
I don’t like any street protestors.
They have their place. When the west forces their people into a subsistence living with stupid energy policies like anti fossil fuel and nuclear while foisting wasteful windmills and solar, at some point, people will need to protest.
Then Obama’s droning policy will turn from brown people in the Middle East to a town near you to keep the plebes in line.
The thing is that the leftist have concentrated themselves in major cities where, if push comes to shove, the conservatives in “flyover country” would be able to blockade incoming food supplies requiring the government to do what Trudope did, declare war on the “people”.
Major cities could not survive a blockade of more than a week or so. Just think what would happen once the EBT card would not buy anything at the local “bodega”!
Every year there are more and more educated people, even in the fly-over states. The willfully ignorant are a dying breed, and no one will mourn their passing.
People in ‘flyover country’ are knowledgeable, intelligent, well spoken, friendly, gregarious, willing to assist people who need help, religious, etc. etc. which represents an incredibly long list of social virtues.
Unlike almost every dense urban area.
The willfully ignorant are those in urban areas who fail to understand where their food actually comes from, how it is handled/processed, stored and transported to their local eateries/grocery.
Unfortunately, the arrogantly willfully ignorant number is growing, not dying out.
i agree with most of what you say, “People in ‘flyover country’ are knowledgeable, intelligent, well spoken, friendly, gregarious, willing to assist people who need help,” but they are not the only ones. Most city folks are like that too. In fact most people in the world are like that. I think everyone except misanthropes are good people. I also agree that folks in the city generally have no idea about the food cycle. But they do know about all the toxic chemicals in the food, and the wastage along the way, and the way the farmers are screwed by the big corporations. The difference is that a lot of folks in the country are just trying to get along and make ends meet. They woul;d rather avoid finding out how unhealthy glyphosate is, because they are convinced it is indispensable. They often don’t have time to delve into complex issues like climate, which you would have to admit is not for the faint hearted. They tend to love their job. They don’t have a boss, so they don’t feel the yoke of oppression on their shoulders. They prefer to have kids and raise them properly rather than spend their time complaining about their lot. These are all quite admirable traits, but you can’t have your cake and eat it too. There is a trade off. To put it bluntly, when very well educated people from the city talk about very complex issues, those who don’t have the time or the inclination to match their knowledge should shut the [snip] up!
Oh sheesh…yet another “country folk are educated” snob. Your ignorance is only matched by your arrogance. My first physics professor was also a farmer. Education isn’t limited to urban centers.
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“The willfully ignorant are a dying breed, and no one will mourn their passing.”
No we won’t. ! Do at least try not to continue being one.
Things may eventually get back to normal once the idiocy of the CAGW meme dies its natural death.
I know i am waisting my time, but this is good practice. You may have noticed that the tide of history is heading in the progressive direction, how could you not. When I was just a kid, the hippies were into drugs and yoga and yogurt and meditation and free love and peace and nature. Naturally they were shunned as freeks and outsiders. But lo and behold, every single thing they espoused is now mainstream orthodoxy. This is all part of the natural evolution of human conciousness. You can spend your life trying to slow it down, but be aware that your efforts are futile.
Until you wake up to REALITY..
…you will always be wasting your time.
Your comment is load of meaningless twaddle !
Your consciousness hasn’t developed out its teens. !
Most of what you think is mainstream orthodoxy has brought disaster on the populace.
Drugs – 107,000 fentanyl deaths in the U.S. last year alone and uncounted cartel induced murders.
Yogurt – Lots of carbs leads to more of the obesity problem.
Yoga – Face it, most hippies weren’t into yoga and most people still aren’t. (I was there and had hair past my shoulders because I thought that I would end up bald eventually and wanted to enjoy my mane while I could.)
Meditation – Again, most hippies didn’t and most people still don’t practice meditation.
Free love – Monkeypox, AIDS, syphilis, gonorrhea, chlamydia, and HPV are the results of indiscriminate intimate relations.
Nature – The left’s insistence on leaving underbrush and deadwood in place lead to raging fires. We should be custodians of natural resources allowing humans and nature live together in harmony.
It sounds to me like you would prefer that humans no longer existed.
“good practice” – something that you learn from, or something that leads to ease of future actions (my defn).
what you are doing is a waste of time for you as well … you have learned nothing from your ‘practice’, and you will not have an easier time in the future as you try to debate from a weak position.
Mate, you are on the wrong side of history. When you are old we will all be amazed that anyone used to think like that, and you will have to bite your tongue and bow your head in silence
And you will bow your head in SHAME (if you are capable of having any) at the damage you and other followers of the CAGW fakery have done to society.
Thats what Speakers Corner in Hyde Park is for.
But no one listens to speakers in Hyde park anymore. Please read this ancient Japanes story, it will explain everything veryu simply, Mr. Worral talks about ‘inflicting indiscriminate misery,’ The indiscriminate misery has hrdly started. Tell someone whose house is burning down around them that being stuck in traffic is ‘misery.’ Tell someone clinging to a tree in a raging torrent all about your misery. Only a privileged white man could say that. Most people are perfectly ok about being stuck in traffic for their entire working lives, as long as the disruption is not intentional, or I should say, for a cause they do not support. 60,000 folks went on a fun run the other day. Did anyone complain about being stuck in traffic? When 60,000 people take to the streets, and stay there until we get a genuine response to this crisis, that’s when Blockade Australia might think about moving on. “lunatics spouting apocalyptic nonsense.” You may not be aware Eric, that Antonio Guterres, head of the U.N. no less, is in total agreement with these lunatics, that our response to the crisis is woefully inadequate. John Kerry, Secretary of State for climate in the Biden administration is also painfully aware that Zero net Emissions by 2050 just won’t cut the mustard. Maybe it isn’t ‘apocalyptic nonsense’ at all, maybe it is reality staring us in the face.
Please take a minute to read this ancient Japanese story while you are stuck in traffic,
https://binsblog.org/2022/07/16/the-burning-of-the-rice-fields/
“60,000 folks went on a fun run the other day.”
Specifically pre-advertised and planned so as not to interfere with business traffic.
A very silly and childish attempt at a comparison.
Kerry, Guterres are leaders of the CAGW hoax.. they benefit enormously from the jet-setting life-style propagandising this nonsense.
Tell someone clinging to a tree in a raging torrent all about your misery.”
You mean NATURALLY OCCURRING EVENTS, that have happened many many many many times, before “climate” didn’t change ?
You are living in a time where natural disasters are coped with far better in developed countries.
Guess why.. because of the use of fossil fuels.
Why do you want to DESTROY SOCIETY ?
You miss understand me. the last thing I want to do is destroy society. I love society. Unfortunately, society is crumbling around us. I don’t think you would disagree with that statement, but we may differ on the reasons. it is quite within the bounds of possiblity that catastrophic events caused by climate change may make it very difficult for society to function. What climate activists are tryinmg to do is alert the world to that possibility, and to propose practical ways to deal with the calamity if it arrives. The climate catastrophe is like the invasion of Ukraine.
The poor suffering Ukrains have to deal with it the best they can. All constructive ideas are welcome. It seems obvious to al least consider putting the wprld on a ‘war-footing.’ That means basically devoting virtually all our resources to takling the problem at hand. Every single person dedicating their efforts to tackling the crisis, or supporting those that are.
“the last thing I want to do is destroy society. I love society. Unfortunately, society is crumbling around us”
Then STOP ATTACKING FOSSIL FUELS.
Society is collapsing BECAUSE OF the leftist greenie agenda.
YOU are part of that cause.
Irrational anti-science belief in “a climate crisis”.. when there isn’t one..
How much of your personal resources are going to be dedicated to tackling the crisis, or supporting those that are?
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Wow that’s a big percentage….
How much personal resources do you have to contribute?
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Wow that is hardly any …
Did you know that a big percentage of almost nothing also almost nothing?
Fun runs, typically, are not held on workdays, nor at peak time.
People DO care if you block their streets and make their daily grind even longer.
Trying closing some streets for a motor race for extended periods and see the complete lack of universal support.
That is a valid point. Lovers of motor sports are probably outnumbered by city folks who prefer walking their dogs in peace If only folks detested climate change as much as they hate motor sports, they would gladly put up with a little inconvenience.
If you really really want to garner attention, you and your cohorts need to stand in front of, and block, the entrance to soccer match at the stadium. All those educated city folks that are trying to attend and want to get in before the match starts will appreciate your efforts so much that you will remember it for a long long time.
They can protest as much as they want… at the side of the road… easily IGNORED as twits.
But they should stop trying to FORCE their opinions onto others and stop disrupting working and other people going about their daily lives.
We are not interested in their brain-washed, cult-like nonsense.
Dear Alexy. I fin d it difficult to fathom why you feel the need to vent so vehemently on folks you barely know. You may have observed that we, ‘the more enlightened’ do not have such an overwhelming need. We prefer to look down with pity on those poor souls who cannot express themselves without personally denigrating their opponents. I don’t mean to lecture, but the internet is a wonderful forum for practicing your self expression. I recommend you calm down and spend a bit more time saying what you really think. it should be a lot more engaging than the raw emotions you have blurted out
LOL.. another insipid meaningless comment.. you are doing well !.
The obstruction now continues into the courts, taking up court time that delays those that have real issues that need to be heard by the courts. The backlog for cases waiting to be heard being a disincentive for those seeking justice further playing into the hands of other wrong doers who think they can get away with anything.
The last thing the climate activists of BA want to do is clog up the courts, I can assure you!
Please read this ancient Japanese tale. It will explain everything, Mr. Worral talks about ‘inflicting indiscriminate misery,’ The indiscriminate misery has hrdly started. Tell someone whose house is burning down around them that being stuck in traffic is ‘misery.’ Tell someone clinging to a tree in a raging torrent all about your misery. Only a privileged white man could say that. Most people are perfectly ok about being stuck in traffic for their entire working lives, as long as the disruption is not intentional, or I should say, for a cause they do not support. 60,000 folks went on a fun run the other day. Did anyone complain about being stuck in traffic? When 60,000 people take to the streets, and stay there until we get a genuine response to this crisis, that’s when Blockade Australia might think about moving on. “lunatics spouting apocalyptic nonsense.” You may not be aware Eric, that Antonio Guterres, head of the U.N. no less, is in total agreement with these lunatics, that our response to the crisis is woefully inadequate. John Kerry, Secretary of State for climate in the Biden administration is also painfully aware that Zero net Emissions by 2050 just won’t cut the mustard. Maybe it isn’t ‘apocalyptic nonsense’ at all, maybe it is reality staring us in the face.
Please take a minute to read this ancient Japanese story while you are stuck in traffic,
https://binsblog.org/2022/07/16/the-burning-of-the-rice-fields/
Well done Ben,
An irrelevant rant….. calls to zealot authorities.
A copy-paste repeat of arrant nonsense.
Of no rational or scientific relevance what so ever.
I bet you didn’t read the ancient Japanese story. you see the difference between the conservative and the revolutionary is that the conservative seeks to find a justification for their beleifs. Once they have found it, they are content. But your revolutionary cannot possibly be content with that. They must seek a crack in the edifice. A fault in the citadel. This can involve a life time of searching and struggling and trying every possible way to get through. Along the way we learn much about the way the system works. But those who have found a simple justification for the stutus quo – neo-liberal free market palliative stage capitalism, will nevewr discover what the [snip] is really going on out there, simply because you don’t want to.
Your bias is readily seen. Most conservatives I know start from first principles and let their “beliefs” follow. Your belief that only you see the truth is no different than the gnostics of antiquity…and your error follows. If only you could see how boring and easily disprovable your childish beliefs are.
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When you are stuck in traffic you are still – legally – in control of a motor vehicle.
Your Nation May Vary, but in my part of the world using a mobile device from the driver’s seat of a vehicle is a legal No-No.
Hope you are not encouraging readers to upset their local law enforcement.
You have caught me out! I am indeed encouraging readers to upset their local law enforcement. But of course, in a strictly non-violent way. The whole point of a blockade is to demonstrate how ineffectual the authorities really are, in the face of a groundswell of mass protest. But to do that it requires a groundswell of mass protest. That is where you come in. The only reason protest is ineffective is because gutless wonders, such as yourself, are unwilling to commit. The reason you are unwilling to commit is because you believe more in the power of the state than the power of the people. We are not in some dictatorship where they shoot protesters. All they do is give you a fine, for christ’s sake. What are you so afraid of?
The protestors think their rights overshadow everyone else’s. They’re lucky to only get arrested and fined rather than get run over.
Stupid is as stupid does.
When you are clinging to a tree all night long in a ragging torrent, you will have plenty of time to reflect on stupidity
The stupidty of building on a known historic flood plain.. I’m guessing you mean
Too bad emergency services couldn’t get to you…
… because BA stooges had blocked the road.
I am finding a common thread in all these comments. You all love to harp on about the poor kiddies rushing to the hospital. I feel these comments are extremely disingenuous. Those spouting them are not so concerned about the poor little kiddies. You are all far more interested in scoring points in the argument. Not that there is a referee. Not that your opponent will grant you any points. You are scoring points in your own internal little mind game. It would be so much better if everyone on social media expressed exactly what we genuinely felt.It would be so much easier to sort out he truth from the bullshit.
Social media is a great place to start telling the truth to yourself, and everyone else. So much easier to lie, but also so much easier to tell the truth without exposing yourself to humiliation. No one knows who you really are. It is a perfect opportunity to explore the truth. If you find – shock and horror – that you actually believe the opposite of what you would like to believe, no one will know. Except yourself of course. Do you think you can withstand that challenge?
So Ben couldn’t give a stuff about harm that could be caused by disrupting emergency services
That’s really is a disgusting attitude. !
Yeah. The stupidity of trusting the ‘expert’ advice that told us all the rains would never come and the stupidity of those who protested against improving storm water management.
Also the stupidity of not having diesel generators running to help restore local power.
I’ve actually done that while off in my woods hunting. It builds character.
Of course I had the required equipment with me to survive the onslaught because I’ve learned to prepare and adapt for changing conditions.
Sounds to me like you are stuck on stupid.
It sounds to me Brad, that you are stuck on individualism. No doubt you are painfully aware that the world is going pear shaped. Unfortunately individualism will not help solve the problem
“that the world is going pear shaped.”
Every facet that is degenerating is because of nonsense leftist agendas.
Virtue-seekers like you are large part of the cause of that societal degeneration.
Seems like you would be a good lemming.. do as your comrades tell you.
You think that going along with the crowd is the way to solve problems?
If you actually believe that, you would be going against the history of progress in humanity. You must be one of those green loonies that thinks the world would be better off without humans.
If you are not an individual, what are you?
Using the word stupid is stupid. We are not stupid. I don’t think you really think we are stupid. I have no idea how stupid you are. I certainly do not assume you are stupid because you think differently to me. I would like it if you showed the same consideration.
I cannot understand what gratification people like you get out of saying such inane meaningless things. We live in a society that accepts the right to protest. If you think protesters should be run over, you are out of kilter with the modern world. I suggest you should try and adjust enough to fit in with the zietgeist, lest you become alienated and bitter and twisted and unhappy.
Your comments convey a marked aroma of stupidity !
Yes, I think you and your group are stupid. You ignore facts in favor of your emotions and fevered dreams.
Perhaps you are just ignorant of the salient points of current facts that are contrary to what you believe.
You can ignore the facts if you like but you might get a rude awakening if you continue on your present path.
h/t Rud Istvan for succinctly providing an on-point list. 🍺
Thank you, Eric, for enumerating the “right to not have to listen”.
yes. was an excellent speaker on abc radio regarding cancel/lgbwhatsists culture today. pretty much boiled down to the right to acknowledge their issues but to NOT agree or be forced to change society for the benefit of a tiny minority, being overly vocal via media
Sorry, did you just use ‘excellent’ and ‘ABC’ unironically?
The brave young people who are prepared to face the full force of the authorities, Strike Force Raptor, the Dog Squad, the Airborne Division, are indeed a small minority. But hey are going into bat for quite large majority of the world’s population who would really like something to be done before it is too late.
Done about what?
There is no climate crisis.
There is absolutely nothing untoward happening with the global climate
Go and read another Grimm Bros story !
it should be simple
automatic jail term for 10 years with judge defining all such protest have the same punishment no appeals
I think 1-2 years is proportionate. Most of them aren’t hardened criminals, just confused immature young people who need a lesson on consequences.
And group therapy lessons in the shower. A good wash would help too.
Cold shower,…gotta save those BTUs…
Vegan meals only. That’s what they want for the rest of us.
No heat in the winter or AC in the summer.
Don’t be frightened of vegans. They wouldn’t hurt a fly. Literally!
Frightened of a limp lettuce leaf ? .. LOL !
If only you knew how smug and conceited you sound. These brave young people are dedicating their lives to salvage a livable future from the mess you have left them
You are typing arrant nonsense.
These are gullible twits, taking in by science fantasy.
I hope the judge gives them what they deserve… and recommends psychological treatment as well.
There is no “climate crisis”!
It does not exist in any real data, only in un-validated erroneous models and in the minds of brain-washed religious zealots like the BA stooges.
You are lucky enough to live in the most human friendly of times.
All of society’s indicators show that to be the case.
And these fools want to destroy the fossil fuels that allowed that to happen.
If they get their way, it is THEM that will be responsible for the destruction of western society, not anything to do with climate.
It is the idiotic leftist AGENDA of the CAGW movement that has caused the many issues that once first world countries are now facing
The highly beneficial warming since the LIA, the use of fossil fuels, plus enhanced atmospheric CO2, have been a massive PLUS for world society..
yes… Cause once the magic ‘generation’ kicks over the next era all the previous generations have all their rights removed.
Let us show the numbers.
Let us pretend you are 40. A 20 year old comes in and says “This is our planet now. We are inheriting it. You old people need to move aside as you have done enough damage. Clearly none of you care.”
So let us also assume that the 40 year old has 25 more years before retirement and 15 more till they get all Joe Biden and start dribbling into their pudding.
So 40 more years of nominally constructive life in society… all of which they should have ZERO say in because some 20 something wants to be in charge.
Also remember that the 20 something is only 20 years behind and will in 60 years go Full Joe and start shaking hands with Corn Pop in public.
So in the 60 years 40 of them will be in co-existence with the people who – apparently – left them in a mess.
Gee…
Entitled much?
sadly theres quite a few older ones retirees etc who should know better
Age does not automatically lead to wisdom.
Look at politicians. They are generally older yet are constantly lead by the nose to enact the most destructive policies I’ve ever heard of.
How about hard labor planting a certain number of trees every day. If they do not reach their target do what Cuba does to prisoners – simply extend their sentence and labor.
The funny thing about this idea is that the protesters would wind up actually making the environment better as a result of the punishment than they would achieve by their random acts of childishness.
Many of these protests at the least rob hundreds of people’s time – hours of time each. They had no choice but to sit in traffic, wasting time and fuel. That time should be statistically calculated, and used for determining jail/prison terms, with a “pain and misery” multiplier thrown in.
Protest all you want but leave me out of it because I probably don’t agree with you. Especially if it concerns the climate. Only city dwellers fall for this baloney. Farmers note that they still plant the same time each on average. They still harvest the same time each year on average. They have a lower percentage of crop failures as their fathers did years ago. That’s due mostly to better weather forecasting and better farming techniques – and maybe because there is a touch more CO2 in the air to help those crops through the occasional dry times.
Australia’s economy is inherently exploitative and extractive and if catastrophic global warming is to have a chance of being prevented, Australia as we know it must be stopped in its tracks.
They better break it gently to Elon and Co-
About 50kg of nickel goes into each Tesla battery but the world isn’t producing enough to keep up with demand (msn.com)
I guess this means the price of nickel will go higher along with the prices of electric cars.
Don’t waste it-
Tesla ‘spontaneously’ catches fire in junkyard weeks after collision – The Washington Post
The Felicity Ace is still reverberating-
Tesla Model Y to get BYD Blade batteries in Europe (thedriven.io)
Blockheads Australia. La lutte continue! A bas les imbeciles!
“The message, essentially, is this: Australia’s economy is inherently exploitative and extractive and if catastrophic global warming is to have a chance of being prevented, Australia as we know it must be stopped in its tracks.”
So where are the minerals going to come from to build your renewables?
AND, throw away all your worldly possessions and go bush ,live off the land with your bare hands, with leaves for clothes because every item you use daily comes from mining.
You cannot expect rational thought processes from brain-washed religious zealots. !
These climate change alarmists are absolutely stupid, because I just saw a Greenpeace commercial on TV protesting ocean gas and oil platforms, claiming they will disrupt migrating whales. So if 1 or 2 gas, oil platforms will be bad for whales, what will 10000 offshore wind turbines do to whales?
Dumb and dumber.
Don’t you understand? Whales ❤️ windmills.
Oh sure. Whales love the windmills now. But wait ’til the whales get their next utility bill. They are going to be very angry.
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The effect of low frequency sound on whale communication would be an interesting research topic if it hasn’t already been done.
I am fairly certain whales are intelligent enough to just swim round a few oil platforms.
I would certainly credit whales with more intelligence than most Greenpeace activists. But then so is my Cocker Spaniel.
Unfortunately, the whales and other creatures can’t escape the sound of the windmills.
Don’t you get it? There shouldn’t really be the windmills either. The real agenda is to unwind the last two centuries of progress.
UK judges congratulate loonies like these
I hope Australian judges have a bit more sense than ours do
Indeed. It would either be case dismissed, or the lightest possible sentence. If the offenders were unlucky enough to come up against a more rational judge an appeal would soon sort it out.
Victoria has it sorted. The Liberal Party will make certain Victoria achieves Net Zero by 2050 by legislating a 50% target for 2030. That is how the Victorian conservatives are differentiation. This from their policy:
What choice is there?
Anyone would be mad not to take a pragmatic approach and take any of the endorsed theft on offer. My bet is those without household batteries will be paying for those who have them.
Victoria is taking a good deal of South Australia’s intermittency so there is little headroom for any more in Victoria without big slabs of storage. The quickest way to get more storage is to incentivise households because that eliminates the EIS process – never less than a year.
Sadly Victoria’s Labor premier Dan Andrews has a cult like following, even when cross dressing the liberals haven’t got a hope.
I have friends, good people, who when I expressed surprise they still supported Andrews after he had his thugs open fire on tradies with rubber bullets, replied “but they tried to break quarantine”.
I repeat, these are good people, I’ve known them all my life – but their loyalty to their thugocratic leader is so complete, they can’t conceive he did something really wrong.
It will all one day come to an end – Victoria and NSW will bear the brunt of the coming green power outages, eventually their patience will snap.
How many educated Germans with blinkers blindly followed Hitler till it was too late?
Or, later, elected and re-elected Merkel??
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Eric, I too have Victorian friends who “stand with Dan”.
I reckon it’s a social peer group circles thing where nobody is willing to risk exclusion by not seeming to be going along with the most influential members of the group, who are usually well-to-do, outspoken, neo socialist types.
(Disclosure- I always aspired to get rich enough to be a lefty, but alas . . . )
Vote for anyone other than labor, greens and the liberal party. It may not change government but it will certainly let the teams know that they are on the nose.
Besides, Andrews has already won this race. The numbers are in.
indys are going to do well as are the nationals.
xidans just done an deal with some EU corp to stick hundreds of birdshredders off east coast round Portland and up wards
yet a 30km OFFshore gas platform got shitcanned
If they shut down Brown Coal power production in Victoria, the whole NEM would be in a situation of massive power shortages for a large percentage of the time.
Wind, solar, batteries CANNOT EVER provide the continuous electricity that the brown coal plants provide.
protesting idiot govt regs/corruption/war and other issues is a fair thing
these clowns..for a non event and super disruptive, no sympathy.
seeing a shrink would be useful as theyre truly off the planet convinced the co2 scam is real
And the shrink would not be . . . . . ?
Interesting suggestion.
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Elizabeth’s referring to amendments to the NSW Roads Act, which were passed, back in April.
Fixed.
Let’s hope they are asked to explain just exactly how much warming has been caused by human emissions; they may trust their feelings on this but will need to support those feelings with data?
A little bit of scientific and social education about the real world and where things come from, especially in Australia’s elite mining context, would go a long way with some of these protesters. Only the hardened believers and XR nutters should be given modest jail sentences so they learn that society has a voice as well and it acts through the courts.
Because nothing converts people to your cause like being annoying or worse.
You have the natural right to speak your mind, and I have the natural right to ignore you. The second you try to use force to make be listen to you, I have the right to use force to prevent you. Don’t like where this is heading? Then don’t force your will on others.
“The message, essentially, is this: Australia’s economy is inherently exploitative and extractive and if catastrophic global warming is to have a chance of being prevented, Australia as we know it must be stopped in its tracks.”
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Uhm, Oz’s emissions are just over 1% of the world’s total. China, India and others are ramping up their emissions far more that that each year.
So then what is so magical about Oz emissions that ending them will cancel out the rest of the world’s and save the planet?
These people don’t think.
China’s C02 contribution, even if it mattered, is 30%. And ‘these people’ think that Australia’s contribution of just over 1% is causing the floods here.
Mr. Worral talks about ‘inflicting indiscriminate misery,’ The indiscriminate misery has hrdly started. Tell someone whose house is burning down around them that being stuck in traffic is ‘misery.’ Tell someone clinging to a tree in a raging torrent all about your misery. Only a privileged white man could say that. Most people are perfectly ok about being stuck in traffic for their entire working lives, as long as the disruption is not intentional, or I should say, for a cause they do not support. 60,000 folks went on a fun run the other day. Did anyone complain about being stuck in traffic? When 60,000 people take to the streets, and stay there until we get a genuine response to this crisis, that’s when Blockade Australia might think about moving on. “lunatics spouting apocalyptic nonsense.” You may not be aware Eric, that Antonio Guterres, head of the U.N. no less, is in total agreement with these lunatics, that our response to the crisis is woefully inadequate. John Kerry, Secretary of State for climate in the Biden administration is also painfully aware that Zero net Emissions by 2050 just won’t cut the mustard. Maybe it isn’t ‘apocalyptic nonsense’ at all, maybe it is reality staring us in the face.
Please take a minute to read this ancient Japanese story while you are stuck in traffic,
https://binsblog.org/2022/07/16/the-burning-of-the-rice-fields/
Ask someone who died in an ambulance that was blocked from reaching an ER how miserable it is to be stuck in traffic.
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Oh wait… they’re no longer miserable in the least. Carry on.
Appeals to zealots leading the CAGW nonsense (Guterres, Kerry) don’t help your anti-science nonsense.
These BA twits are gullible brain-washed fools, taking in by science fantasy.
There is no “climate crisis”!
It does not exist in any real data, only in un-validated erroneous models and in the minds of brain-washed religious zealots like the BA stooges.
We are lucky enough to live in the most human friendly of times.
All of society’s indicators show that to be the case.
And these fools want to destroy the fossil fuels that allowed that to happen. Idiots !
If they get their way, it is THEM that will be responsible for the destruction of western society, not anything to do with climate.
It is the idiotic leftist AGENDA of the CAGW movement that has caused the many issues that once first world countries are now facing
The highly beneficial warming since the LIA, the use of fossil fuels, plus enhanced atmospheric CO2, have been a massive PLUS for world society..
“Maybe it isn’t ‘apocalyptic nonsense’ at all”
Do you also believe Grimm Bros fairy-tales.. MAYBE they are true too !!
Maybe there was a big bad wolf.
Maybe their were wicked witches living in gingerbread houses. !
Time it was YOU that started to face the reality that…
… there is absolutely NOTHING UNTOWARD happening with the global climate.
All real data shows that to be the case.
Ben, the fun run people didn’t lock themselves in their vehicle and try to block Sydney Harbour Tunnel. They arranged with police ahead of time and consulted on a route which caused minimum disruption. They got permission to occupy a few roads for an agreed time.
As for houses burning, I just checked – my Australian house isn’t burning. The houses of people who clear proper firebreaks mostly don’t burn in big bushfires. And maybe if your green mates didn’t chain themselves to trees every time park officers try to conduct a controlled burn, the bushfires wouldn’t be so bad in the first place.
I almost said, you need to wake up and smell what you’re shovelling, but its a free country, so you’re completely entitled to believe in your climate mumbo jumbo. What you don’t have a right to do is mess up everyone elses day because they don’t agree with you.
Having said this, not only are you entitled to your POV, you’re welcome to submit your POV to WUWT. I can’t guarantee it will be published, but we sometimes publish contrarian views. Keep it polite, and explain your concerns. If you tell me you will, I’ll ask Charles and Anthony to keep an eye out for your submission.
The question I have is, will Ben submit the story under the name Laycock or Boyang?
Ben, Eric has invited you to submit your Point of View here on WUWT. I strongly encourage you to do so. It’s really not convincing to repost a cut and paste though, so I suggest you collaborate with your peers to present a strong argument to promote your cause.
I’ll jump right in and assume that you believe that not enough is being done to slow down catastrophic climate change. I can only assume that you believe that wind and solar with backup batteries are the ultimate answer to put an end to drought, floods and bushfire. I hope you know that Australia’s 1.16% contribution of man-made C02 is a percentage of the total man-made contribution of less than 5% of the global total? And if you consider C02 a ‘pollutant’ then that figure, based on Australia’s geographic size means that Australia has among the cleanest atmosphere on the planet?
You might also consider justifying the thousands of square kilometres of prime agricultural land intended to be utilised and destroyed for wind, solar and backup batteries. It is in fact well underway, and you’d have to include thousands of kilometres of transmission lines too. You’d have to justify the loss of native habitat and wildlife too and maybe tell us why it’s OK for the renewables developers to simply purchase certificates when endangered species are discovered on the proposed sites.
Maybe you could explain to my neighbours why they should accept the increased fire risks. Tricky really, some of them have experienced extensive losses from grass fires in the past. Renewable energy increases that risk considerably. Bad enough that four of the fires that required the Bushfire Brigade during the 2019/20 summer to be called out were caused by flicked cigarette butts, a careless fencing welder and a lazy camper. The local firies have actually been instructed not to enter in the case a solar works fire if our local commercial cadmium/tellurium solar works caught fire. They were instructed to let it burn because the fumes would be highly toxic. We live three kilometres from that solar works, our historic town is four kilometres away.
Good luck Ben. I sincerely look forward to hearing your point of view. I really want to know what the benefits of renewables are, given that they only work around 30% of the time. We have had 12 blackouts, brownouts and those annoying energy surges that upset the timers and destroy your equipment in the past three years. You’d best do your homework though Ben, there’s quite a bit of knowledge on this site, to say the least.
Australia is negative when it comes to CO@ur momisugly.
They produce relatively small amounts of CO2 and the wide brown land also has lots of vegetation which gobbles up all the Oz produced CO2 – and then some.
No jail time or fines for these reprobates. They should be banished to communes powered only by wind and solar, made to grow their own food, make their own clothes, build their own shelter and find their own water. No fossil fuel use whatsoever. Anyone who tires of this lifestyle can immediately be released and rejoin society if they behave. You misbehave and back to the commune you go.
Thanks Bob! 🙂
Few things that are getting missed in this discussion.
This is Blockade Australia doing this protest.
Who?
Exactly.
Who are they?
Well.. at a guess… SPLITTERS!!
There is no united front here because when you are a Left you believe that you know best and you (and your followers) should be in charge. It is not the cause, it is the sense of power obtained when they use the cause as an excuse. If it was really the cause there would be a massive united movement, not hundreds of small Splitter factions.
The second point to observe is that these are the people who are absolutely convinced that something Must Be Done and Other People are the ones who Must Be Doing It.
Like I said before. I Love it when the wackos do this wacko stuff. They only hurt their causes. The negative attention they bring on themselves overshadows any attention to the cause they are supposedly “protesting” for. By marginalizing themselves they marginalize their cause.