UK Environmental Activist Urges ‘Shutting Down Animal Farming Altogether’ Because ‘It’s One of The Greatest Causes of Climate Breakdown’

From Climate Depot

British environmental activist George Monbiot: “It’s by far and away the greatest cause of habitat destruction, the greatest cause of wildlife loss, the greatest cause of extinction, greatest cause of soil loss, greatest source of fresh water use. It’s one of the greatest causes of climate breakdown, bigger than transport.”  …

“We need to act as drastically within that sector as any other sector to prevent the collapse of our life support systems and what that means, above all else, is getting out of livestock farming is really shutting down animal farming altogether, because that has massively disproportionate impacts on the living planet, and we need to switch towards other sources of food plant-based diets which are far more efficient, far lower environmental impacts.”

“It’s a bit like leaving fossil fuels in the ground unless we do that. We’ve really got very little chance indeed of preventing this domino effect of system collapse right across systems which basically makes the planet uninhabitable. So eating meat and milk and eggs is an indulgence we cannot afford.” 

By: Marc Morano – Climate Depot

On Ireland state-run TV – RTE – Prime Time program – July 19, 2022 – Miriam O’Callaghan

Rough Transcript:

RTE Host Miriam O’Callaghan: George has a big emphasis on agriculture and how agriculture needs to cut its emissions. And I know it’s an issue you feel very strongly about. You’ve said that agriculture is arguably the most destructive industry on Earth. Explain and do you still believe that George?

British environmental activist George Monbiot: “It’s by far and away the greatest cause of habitat destruction, the greatest cause of wildlife loss, the greatest cause of extinction, greatest cause of soil loss, greatest source of fresh water use. It’s one of the greatest causes of climate breakdown, bigger than transport. One of the primary causes of water pollution and of air pollution. So it’s right at the top. Oh, I’m sorry, I forgot to say land use, the biggest issue of all it’s by far and away the greatest form of land use that humans inflict on the planet which means all that land is land. which can’t be used for wild ecosystems.

And well, obviously, we need farming, we need to minimize those impacts. We need to act as drastically within that sector as any other sector to prevent the collapse of our life support systems and what that means, above all else, is getting out of livestock farming is really shutting down animal farming altogether, because that has massively disproportionate impacts on the living planet, and we need to switch towards other sources of food plant-based diets which are far more efficient, far lower environmental impacts. But also switch out of farming altogether to produce protein-rich foods, which we can do through precision fermentation – brewing microbes.

RTE Host Miriam O’Callaghan: I can hear farmers all over the small country of ours, shocked and perhaps screaming at their televisions because they say are you saying all animal farming in your opinion, really needs to stop?

Monbiot: Yes, it does. It really does. It’s a bit like leaving fossil fuels in the ground unless we do that. We’ve really got very little chance indeed of preventing this domino effect of system collapse right across systems which basically makes the planet uninhabitable. So eating meat and milk and eggs is an indulgence we cannot afford.”

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Climate Depot’s Morano: “If the Davos crowd of the World Economic Forum were looking for a better global environment on which to enact their central planning vision of a Great Reset, it would be hard to imagine a more conducive chaotic time than right now.”  See: Watch video: World Economic Forum’s utopian Great Reset vision of 2030 – ‘You’ll own nothing, and you’ll be happy’ – ‘Whatever you want you’ll rent & it’ll be delivered by drone’ – Meat will be ‘an occasional treat’

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Analysis: The Lies Behind Lab-Cultured Fake Meat – A Great Food Reset – ‘Aim is to control populations by creating dependence on private companies that control the food supply’

Reality Check: 

There were 60 Million bison roaming the the great plains of the US 150 years ago. But somehow we are to believe cows pose a unique threat to the environment. pic.twitter.com/ksikT8s867

— Seattle Indy (@SeattleIndepen1) August 2, 2022

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TallDave
August 6, 2022 6:02 am

ironically, for decades the big environmental scare was that food production would collapse

the catastrophe has become the plan

Scissor
Reply to  TallDave
August 6, 2022 6:13 am

Monbiot is wrong about many things. He does not have a foundational understanding of the conservation laws. Even fermentation systems must have matter and energy inputs.

His statement about the bovines and ecosystems further belies his ignorance. For example, there were tens of millions of American bison roaming North America not that long ago. These bovines were part of a thriving ecosystem before governments decided to end it.

Paul S.
Reply to  Scissor
August 6, 2022 7:01 am

It’s amazing how such educated people can be so incredibly stupid

Old Man Winter
Reply to  Paul S.
August 6, 2022 8:40 am

There’s usually only a limited amount of damage that can be
done by dull or stupid people. For creating a truly
monumental disaster, you need people with high IQs.”– Thomas Sowell

h/t David Elstrom

Last edited 12 days ago by Old Man Winter
Brad-DXT
Reply to  Old Man Winter
August 6, 2022 9:53 am

I doubt George Monbiot has anything more than an average IQ.
He is probably just the mouthpiece for some globalist elite cabal that may include high IQ individuals that desire to bring the western world to its knees.
Why intelligent people wish to decrease the world population and spread hunger, disease, and misery in the process is beyond me.
If I were in the position of the elitists, I would want to expand space exploration and seek to exploit the resources of the solar system so that we don’t have to dig up the Earth so much.

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  Brad-DXT
August 6, 2022 11:22 am

Moonbat jumped the shark years ago. He is insane.

H.R.
Reply to  Brad-DXT
August 6, 2022 1:54 pm

You obviously know nothing about how to be a proper sociopath, Brad. You’re going to have to work on that. Maybe take some lessons.
😉

Brad-DXT
Reply to  H.R.
August 6, 2022 10:24 pm

I suppose I do need lessons. Maybe I could get an apprenticeship at the WEF.

StephenP
Reply to  Brad-DXT
August 7, 2022 10:46 am

Why not send the elites out into space to investigate the resources available.
Voyager 1 was launched in 1977 and reached the outside of the solar system in 2012, 35 years later, so by the time they return they could be 70 years older.
Good luck and good riddance.

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Sunderlandsteve
Reply to  StephenP
August 9, 2022 8:55 am

Ark B?

Editor
Reply to  Old Man Winter
August 6, 2022 2:12 pm

+1. And …

There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.
– George Orwell

michael hart
Reply to  Mike Jonas
August 6, 2022 2:51 pm

Difficult to add to that.

The only positive thing to say, is that Monbiot has so soiled his underwear about global warming that he now actually supports nuclear power.

I guess we take our blessings, whatever.

Philip
Reply to  Paul S.
August 6, 2022 6:03 pm

They miss spelled Moonbat or dumbass either or.

Mike
Reply to  Paul S.
August 8, 2022 8:23 pm

Education doesn’t equal wisdom.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Paul S.
August 9, 2022 12:54 am

The question is, “Is his stupidity a result of his malicious Malthusian mind, or is it the other way around?”.

lee riffee
Reply to  Scissor
August 6, 2022 11:08 am

I’d also have to guess that he’s never been to (or even seen on TV) the vast plains of East and South Africa, aka the Serengeti. What is the dominant mammalian life form in these habitats? You got it – bovines, aka even toed ungulates! By this Moonbat clown’s thinking (or lack of) the Serengeti should have turned into a wasteland devoid of life ages ago….

Bruce
Reply to  lee riffee
August 6, 2022 11:18 am

Actually, most of those animals roaming Africa are antelope. Also ungulates, but not bovines.

Alan Robertson
Reply to  Bruce
August 7, 2022 10:20 am

Au contraire. All African antelope species are within the family, Bovidae.
They also happen to fall within the clade, Ungulata, being hoofed.
The Well known Cape Buffalo, as well as the Wildebeest and the tiny Dik Dik, are all related to that Guernsey cow, which provided the cream for my coffee.
Whales are also considered ungulates, but that’s another story.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Scissor
August 6, 2022 5:51 pm

Even fermentation systems must have matter and energy inputs.

Not only that, but there are waste products that have to be dealt with.

D Boss
Reply to  Scissor
August 7, 2022 4:11 am

Actually it was more: 50-100 million bison. And This Monboit a$$hole is exactly like the US policy to exterminate the bison, with the purpose being to decimate the native American Indian population as bison was their main raw material, not just food.

https://medium.com/@davbunnell/once-there-were-50-to-100-million-buffalo-they-were-the-most-numerous-large-mammals-to-ever-exist-e01a5bca9ed8

This Monboit idiot’s idea echos the main purpose of the climate cult, which is to decimate the entire human population by destroying it’s raw materials, food, energy, etc. And it’s been able to brainwash stupid people into thinking that supporting this outright evil plan, is actually “saving the world”.

Gerry, England
Reply to  Scissor
August 7, 2022 4:21 am

‘Monbiot is wrong about many things’

You are being far too kind there.

Mike
Reply to  TallDave
August 8, 2022 8:22 pm

If the predicted crisis doesn’t happen, then we need to create one, so that our predictions are correct…says the dedicated environmentalists.

Editor
August 6, 2022 6:10 am

Sorry, but I have to say it: MOOOO!!

Regards,
Bob

Bryan A
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
August 6, 2022 3:31 pm

I like Dairy Cows…they’re Outstanding in their Field

Craig from Oz
Reply to  Bryan A
August 8, 2022 11:22 pm

Don’t milk the puns, Bryan…

eyesonu
August 6, 2022 6:14 am

We can make a good start that I would wholeheartedly support by eliminating the production of corn based ethanol in the USA and ethanol imports from any other countries.

Yooper
Reply to  eyesonu
August 6, 2022 7:42 am

Even from Scotland?

Scissor
Reply to  Yooper
August 6, 2022 9:09 am

I knew a guy at NREL who used to say, “drink the best, burn the rest.”

Anyway, I enjoy a nice whisky, whiskey, cognac, etc., from time to time. But really, as a chemist, I can whip up something that tastes good and is effective for a fraction of the cost.

bonbon
Reply to  Scissor
August 6, 2022 12:30 pm

A synthetic Oban single malt?
You could find yourself on a charge!

Alan Robertson
Reply to  Yooper
August 7, 2022 3:51 pm

No sense giving Monbiot any other hare- brained ideas.

DMacKenzie
Reply to  eyesonu
August 6, 2022 12:50 pm

You won’t like the lead that replaces it for anti-knock additive in your gasoline…

Scissor
Reply to  DMacKenzie
August 6, 2022 2:22 pm

Just increase the alkylates and aromatics, no oxygenates needed.

Philip
Reply to  eyesonu
August 6, 2022 6:05 pm

Ethanol = using food to waste money. expensive stupidity

Vuk
August 6, 2022 6:22 am

 George Monbiot is simply just quoting the science papers falling out of the cow’s big-headed partner’s backside.

August 6, 2022 6:25 am

The breakdown is the public education system.

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  John Shewchuk
August 6, 2022 6:35 am

The British education system appears much worse than the American system. There are many more fools per capita.

fretslider
Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
August 6, 2022 6:45 am

But they take their lead from the PC Woke US

Old Man Winter
Reply to  fretslider
August 6, 2022 9:52 am

One intelligent grade schooler sent his woke teacher to seek
advice from fellow TikTokers when he told her his pronouns were banana & rock after he pointed out that she hadn’t asked him about his pronouns. Unfortunately, he’ll probably be demoted a grade for more re-education training so he’ll never do that again.

https://redstate.com/sister-toldjah/2022/08/04/clever-students-hilariously-turn-tables-on-woke-school-teacher-during-pronoun-usage-talk-n607137

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Mike Lowe
Reply to  John Shewchuk
August 6, 2022 1:24 pm

Indeed, he thinks we must save the planet for the animal kingdom by eliminating so many of those animals. Next, it will be the turn of humans to be eliminated. You first, George!

August 6, 2022 6:30 am

I would say the biggest threat to the earth is ignorant and/or evil eco-fascists like Monbiot, Al Gore, Klaus Schwab and the Davos Communists, and their ignorant and/or evil minions. I include the ignorant minions that call themselves “journalists” in the dominant dinosaur media.

Old Man Winter
Reply to  Steve Downs
August 6, 2022 8:46 am
Samuel Saunders McAllister
August 6, 2022 6:31 am

George Monbiot, perhaps you can show everyone how then shall we live without farmers producing livestock & crops from grain, for food for the rest of us? In the book of Romans Paul says “that they worshipped the creatures not the Creator and their knowledge became foolishness in the sight of the Lord…” I think that Mr Monbiot`s statements about farming & livestock & crops are on the back of worshipping “GIA”. He is entitled to his opinion of course, but I am glad that no one believes his theatrics.

Joseph Zorzin
August 6, 2022 6:32 am

Anyone who uses a term like “climate breakdown” must be having a nervous breakdown.

Scissor
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
August 6, 2022 6:38 am

Breakup and breakdown happens every day. Within an hour, I expect enough warming to occur to have a nice comfortable bicycle ride.

damp
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
August 6, 2022 11:11 am

If the climate breaks down, will we be left with only the constituent elements, namely: computer models, fearmongering, envy, misanthropy and a hockey stick?

bonbon
Reply to  damp
August 6, 2022 12:27 pm

Get your brolly ready!

Editor
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
August 6, 2022 2:16 pm

Who cares what kind of breakdown they are having. Fact is that they are giving children breakdowns – and that does matter.

Trying to Play Nice
August 6, 2022 6:33 am

I suppose that Monbiot never heard of the bison that roamed the Great Plains of North America. I think we pretty much replaced them with cattle.

Pillage Idiot
Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
August 6, 2022 7:07 am

I love lectures from “environmentalists” that know nothing about the environment!

Recent wildlife studies in our area have demonstrated that quail populations do much better in the presence of a hooved herbivore. The manager of a nearby wildlife district told me I should definitely get some cattle on the tallgrass prairie portions of our farm.

Fixed some fences this spring so my neighbor could run some cow/calf on one corner of our grassland. When I worked at the farm this week, that area was positively singing with “bobwhite” calls just before sundown.

When they covey up this fall, I expect at least one large covey, but there may be two – on land that has had zero quail for the last five years!

The historical quail population clearly developed in a prairie ecology with bison as the primary grazers. Putting cattle on the land very nearly replicates the original ecology.

Monbiot is a dangerous fool.

Ben Vorlich
Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
August 6, 2022 8:45 am

The European Aurochs became extinct in the 17th century.
Moonbat won’t be happy about this

Extinct, but still around
The aurochs is the ancestor of all cattle and thereby the most important animal in the history of mankind. The keystone species for many European ecosystems was hunted to its extinction in 1627. However, its DNA is still alive and distributed among a number of the ancient original cattle breeds. “The Tauros Programme” aims to bring back the aurochs as a functional wild animal, by back-breeding the closest relatives of the original aurochs.
https://rewildingeurope.com/rewilding-in-action/wildlife-comeback/tauros/

Or visiting here
Chillingham cattle, also known as Chillingham wild cattle, are a breed of cattle that live in a large enclosed park at Chillingham Castle,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chillingham_cattle

John Bell
August 6, 2022 6:40 am

All such people (Monbiot) need to be rounded up and made to live in their own special nature sanctuary free from all the things they say are bad, like cows and cars and oil and gas and coal and plastics and electricity.

Flash Chemtrail
Reply to  John Bell
August 6, 2022 7:16 am

Yes, let’s send them all to Sri Lanka.

Scissor
Reply to  John Bell
August 6, 2022 9:13 am

He thinks we are dependent on fossil fuels. In fact, we are dependent on the matter and energy that these resources provide.

fretslider
August 6, 2022 6:41 am

Only a Grauniad reader takes Moonbat seriously

Cue griff…

DipChip
Reply to  fretslider
August 6, 2022 12:17 pm

Was the personal title Moonbat originated in response to his environmental testimonials?

bonbon
August 6, 2022 6:41 am

The last time the British stopped farming in Ireland in 1846, millions died. Population to this day never recovered. Sri Lanka decreed organic farming in 2019, now look at their disaster.
Monbiot should go for a walk in Dublin along the river here :
His predecessor, Queen Victoria’s diarist Kingsley, of course wrote too many Irish, their own fault, while all produce was exported under British Army escort.

960px-Famine_memorial_dublin.jpg
Mr.
Reply to  bonbon
August 6, 2022 11:13 am

Yes it’s hard to figure why there isn’t a “Paddy Lives Matter” movement.

bonbon
Reply to  Mr.
August 6, 2022 12:24 pm

Because it is paid for by Soros et al. BLM was peaceful after all??

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  bonbon
August 6, 2022 5:59 pm

Mostly.

MM from Canada
Reply to  bonbon
August 6, 2022 1:40 pm

The British didn’t stop the Irish from farming – the Irish still farmed. But all the tenant farmers could afford to eat was potatoes. The rest of the food they grew was exported by the English absentee landlords. When the potato blight hit Irish farms, their only food source rotted in the fields.
A similar thing happened in India during the Great Famine of 1876-1878. The colonial government kept exporting wheat from India, even though the people were starving.

bonbon
Reply to  MM from Canada
August 7, 2022 2:15 am

When the blight first hit Denver, no-one died of starvation.
What Monbiot does not say is his Davos elites will wine and dine as usual while we eat mush.

It is so an obvious provocation, that I can think only of the Pelosi Prank around the same time. What stunt will they come up with next? Maybe Germany’s Economic Minister, Deputy Chancellor, expecting an energy uprising caused by his policies? Berlin announced a Taiwan Prank for Autumn.
They are sure jumping like cats on a hot tin roof – the yowling!

StephenP
Reply to  MM from Canada
August 7, 2022 11:04 am

Read “The Great Hunger” by Cecil Woodham-Smith which tells the history of the Irish Potato Famine, and explains much of modern-day Irish and Irish/American attitudes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Hunger:_Ireland_1845%E2%80%931849#:~:text=The%20Great%20Hunger%20is%20a%201962%20book%20about,it%20as%2C%20%22A%20masterpiece%20of%20the%20historian%27s%20art.%22

Rusty
August 6, 2022 6:54 am

There’s a reason George is called Moonbat in lieu of his second name. He’s off the scale crazy. Unfortunately he’s given a platform to clown around on.

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  Rusty
August 6, 2022 7:16 am

Actually he was the original moonbat, which is the spirit animal of warmunism.

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Ben Vorlich
Reply to  Rusty
August 6, 2022 8:52 am

He is/was the BBC Radio goto “ecologist” on matters like this. Presenters and Moonbat on first name terms.
Not sure if he still is as he was one of the reasons I gave up listening to all BBC radio output.

Tones
Reply to  Rusty
August 7, 2022 6:54 am

Yes, why does the media give publicity to idiots like this?

TonyG
Reply to  Tones
August 7, 2022 11:30 am

Because the media are run by comparable idiots?

John_C
Reply to  TonyG
August 8, 2022 11:01 am

compatible

HwyEng
August 6, 2022 7:04 am

Lunacy. Eco facism and Malthusian thought is the greatest danger to mankind. With responsible farming and energy generation, we can manage the impact on our planet.

Pflashgordon
Reply to  HwyEng
August 6, 2022 7:37 am

In agriculture, we already are managing our impact, and getting better at it. This rube Moonbat talks like he just fell off the turnip wagon. He is so far on the lunatic fringe that he doesn’t merit our brain cells to refute him. Just derisive laughter and pity.

Paul Hurley (aka PaulH)
August 6, 2022 7:20 am

Perhaps Moonbat can lead the way? He and his family should refuse any and all farm-produced products. If livestock is bad, so are farm-produced fruit and vegetables. Just think of all that tilling of soil and trucks and tractors driving around.

Brad-DXT
Reply to  Paul Hurley (aka PaulH)
August 6, 2022 10:19 am

As is typical, the green loony has not done the math. There is not enough arable land for the whole population to be vegetarian. Cattle and bison generally rely on grassland that is not suitable for farming without extravagant modification. The plowing under of buffalo grass to plant crops contributed greatly to the dust bowl.
The addition of meat to our ancestor’s diet allowed them to grow bigger brains. We need bigger brains to adapt to any changes we are exposed to.

Graham
Reply to  Brad-DXT
August 6, 2022 2:00 pm

You nailed it Brad DXT.
I am sure that moonbat and the other vegan communist stirrers calling for the elimination of farming are mentally deficient through lack of animal protein.
We have people making claims here that any food can be fermented from fresh air and something else and it will taste the same as the real thing .
If this process was foolproof and cheap why is it not being used now .
A few years ago vegetable growing towers were touted as the way to grow food but the cost of building these towers and the energy to pump water and nutrient plus restricted sunlight was never factored into the calculations .
The methane from farmed animals is a closed cycle and not one additional atom or molecule of carbon is added to the atmosphere .
Also soils under grassland farming build carbon but market gardening soils tend lose carbon due to constant cultivation and soil due to heavy rain on slopes .
Humans expel 12% of all CO2 emissions but this to is a cycle and no additional carbon is added to the atmosphere .
I have grand children attending universities here in NZ but I am worried that they may get brain washed because professors from all our Universities are attacking farming and pushing climate change and sea level rise .

Disputin
Reply to  Graham
August 7, 2022 3:03 am

…mentally deficient through lack of animal protein.

I saw a headline today in one of the British papers that the recommended intake of protein should be doubled.

Gordon A. Dressler
August 6, 2022 7:54 am

George Monbiot: His picture should be alongside every dictionary’s definition of “100% certifiable idiot”.

How do you argue with an idiot? You don’t. So I won’t.

P.S. Far and away the greatest cause of habitat destruction, the greatest cause of wildlife loss, the greatest cause of extinction, the greatest source of fresh water, the greatest cause of “climate breakdown” is a naturally-occurring glacial interval that occurs about every 100,000 years (based on the last million years of so of Earth’s history) and that lasts, on average, about 60,000 years.

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Climate believer
August 6, 2022 7:56 am

We used to put idiots like this in the stocks and throw crap at them, it might be time to bring them back, it would be so cathartic for so many people.

Right-Handed Shark
August 6, 2022 8:04 am

Tell me moonbat, just what do those microbes produce whilst fermenting?

D1ckhead.

Ben Vorlich
Reply to  Right-Handed Shark
August 6, 2022 9:12 am

Producing Quorn, a popular UK faux meat, uses Palm Oil but it’s “responsibly sourced”. So not evil, aye right.
The manufacturer of Quorn has had adverts banned and their claims that “carbon emissions from livestock are greater than those of all global transport” had to be modified after the
Agriculture and Horticulture Development Board pointed out errors but it had got into the wild and is still quoted by the likes of Moonbat.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Ben Vorlich
August 6, 2022 6:13 pm

Isn’t “responsibly sourced palm oil” an oxymoron?

roaddog
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
August 6, 2022 8:22 pm

Desecrating the third world is perfectly acceptable to Climate Nutters. Mainstream Media won’t write about it, so it must not exist.

Kevin Stall
August 6, 2022 8:10 am

I’ll give up meat when they give up importing veg from around the world. Let them eat root veg all winter. No more importing fruit and veg.
Bison, ox and water buffaloes use to be in great numbers us many more houses. Every family use to keep animals.

Old Man Winter
August 6, 2022 8:11 am

It would be unfair & unkind to BeeEss everywhere to refer to the garbage
Moonbat’s spewing as BeeEss. The real BeeEss at least has the decency &
integrity to warn you of what it contains.

Old Man Winter
Reply to  Old Man Winter
August 6, 2022 8:18 am

Unfortunately, the same thing can be said for garbage, sewage, bilge, ….

Graemethecat
Reply to  Old Man Winter
August 6, 2022 8:57 am

Bull Sh1t recycles nutrients to the soil and provides sustenance to dung beetles and other insects. Moonbat’s blatherings are worthless.

Stephen Skinner
August 6, 2022 8:17 am

Master Monbiot needs to be sectioned, or at least treated as mentally deranged.

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  Stephen Skinner
August 6, 2022 11:24 am

Sectioned, by surgeons.

Shoki Kaneda
August 6, 2022 8:17 am

Does Moonbat eat bugs? If not, the hypocrite should keep his mouth shut.

August 6, 2022 8:53 am

The Moonbat has long been known as a green of very little brain power. No commonsense either.

August 6, 2022 9:02 am

Monbiot? Enough said….ignore.

Bryan A
Reply to  meltemian
August 6, 2022 3:37 pm

Moni-bot

Steve Case
August 6, 2022 9:04 am

From the Twitter link:
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Nicolas de Cuse
@NickdeCusa
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Aug 3

Replying to @CSquireMagazine
@clim8resistance
and 2 others
This raises the heart of the matter, which is, when we talk about the environment, what do we want? The best environment for humans or eliminating human impact?

GeoNC
August 6, 2022 9:06 am

Serious question: Were there more bison on North America 200 years ago than there are cattle now? I’ve read that bison numbered in the millions before being hunted to near extinction. And I’m sure that bison farts were just as bad as cattle farts.

John Hultquist
Reply to  GeoNC
August 6, 2022 9:56 am

There is a wide difference in the estimates of NA Bison. They ranged beyond the Great Plains, for instance into Pennsylvania. An estimate that says between 30 & 60 million is commonly quoted. Another says 85 M.
There are now (2016 est.) about 360,000.  https://bisoncentral.com/bison-by-the-numbers/
 There were 92 million cattle in the United States in 2016 (which is approximately 1–3 times the common bison herd estimates) and in 2015, 28.8 million head were slaughtered; about 24 times the recorded bison slaughter over the 3 years it was at its peak.
Full disclosure: I live in cattle country where the land will not support row crops; mostly rocky and both late and early freezing. Hay is brought in from nearby farms when pasture is not producing.

GeoNC
Reply to  John Hultquist
August 6, 2022 1:34 pm

Thanks for the information. Didn’t realize there were so many cattle around.

I fart in your general direction. And your father smelt of elderberries. (as the French knight once taunted)

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  John Hultquist
August 6, 2022 6:19 pm

There is a difference between the Plains Bison and Forest Bison, the latter not being as abundant and generally smaller.

John Hultquist
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
August 7, 2022 8:54 pm

Last one killed about 1801. Some folks don’t believe they were there. Odd folks.
Anyway, the State now has over 3,000 on small farms, as does Washington
State; a few near where I live.
Bison by the Numbers (arcgis.com)

Steve Case
Reply to  GeoNC
August 6, 2022 12:57 pm

 And I’m sure that bison farts were just as bad as cattle farts.
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There isn’t anything “bad” about farts. All organisms with an alimentary canal produce methane. Climate “Science” has created a catechism that has convinced you and a lot of other people to refer to cattle farts as bad. Methane emissions from cattle are NOT bad or worse or any other negative you can think of. What’s going on is raw propaganda. Several years ago the notion that cow farts cause global warming was initially regarded as laughable, but the lie has been repeated so many times for so long that it’s difficult to not write about cow farts as a problem.

I bang on about not buying into left-wing bullshit a lot. Words have meaning and buying into the left’s definitions and terms is counterproductive.

Graham
Reply to  Steve Case
August 6, 2022 2:18 pm

Activists have been hoodwinked with dishonest lies about farmed animals methane emissions
So many people now live in cities and they have no contact with the country side unless they are driving past on a motorway .
The left and dim witted activists are vilifying farming and I am sure that the end game is to nationalize farming over the world as they are against the free market economy .
They want the governments to control everything starting with the UN .
Why else have we got the UNIPCC telling all countries to cut emissions which can only lead to hunger and poverty for billions ?

Disputin
Reply to  Graham
August 7, 2022 3:16 am

Anything with initials starting with “UN…” is automatically bad/wrong.

And, BTW, cattle do not, predominately, fart. Being ruminants, the methane is produced by bacteria in the third stomach, so they belch. (Copiously!)

Gary Pearse
August 6, 2022 9:15 am

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurochs

Why are leading activists so ignorant of history and human anthropology. Morano points out the 60 million Great Plains buffalo, but also the auroch, the large progenitor of modern cattle that occurred throughout Asia, N.Africa and Europe was a staple food for Neanderthals to homosapiens.

“Two aurochs domestication events occurred during the Neolithic Revolution. One gave rise to the domestic cattle (Bos taurus) in the Fertile Crescent in the Near East that was introduced to Europe via the Balkans and the coast of the Mediterranean Sea.”

Also, their ’emissions’ are more quickly recycled back to vegetation than UK’s Drax Power’s wood burning ‘green’ electricity generation, and it is the exact same logic behind both!! George Monbiot, like climate science’s Richard Betts et al, share, with WEF billionaires and idiot Western heads if state, responsibility for the developing global economic and food disasters in the making.

Moderately Cross of East Anglia
August 6, 2022 9:27 am

Someone as mentally deranged as Monbiot is to be pitied really, but not the clowns who encourage him.

What is he going to do with all the farm animals anyway; I hope he is not suggesting a killing of all these poor creatures, that would be evil on an epic scale. Perhaps he is going to personally eat them all himself to keep the rest of us from sin.

I am not however ever going to eat the fermented pond scum he advocates, cannibalism would actually look a better option (no I’m not suggesting it just making a point about how foul and noxious his alternative is).

Pflashgordon
Reply to  Moderately Cross of East Anglia
August 6, 2022 1:15 pm

Even pond scum production or insect production in quantities sufficient to feed the world would require a massive agricultural enterprise, fertilizer, energy, etc. Aside from manna in the Sinai 3,000 years ago, the food doesn’t just appear at our feet ready to eat.

What he really desires is the death of 90% of humanity, just not him.

Gunga Din
August 6, 2022 9:29 am

Animal Rights activist (ALF, PeTA) have been trying to shut down “Factory Farms” for decades.
Others have been trying to eliminate cars, SUVs and oil for decades for various reasons.
And of course, nuclear power and new dams have been in the crosshairs of some for decades.
All long before CAGW reared its ugly head.
Odd that the “solutions” these past various past causes espoused are same “solutions” to CAGW. Isn’t it?

John Garrett
August 6, 2022 9:32 am

I’d seen Monbiot’s name scattered about in relation to climate numerous times over the last couple of decades but I had never seen him in person until a couple of weeks ago when he appeared on a U.S.-based newscast produced by and put out for zanies and crackpots called Democracy Now!**

It was then that I realized that Monbiot is a full-on nutter. The man is an outright lunatic— you can’t get crazier than that guy.
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**If you are bored and need amusement, Democracy Now! is fabulous entertainment. It is a non-stop parade of zanies and crackpots. It’s where people like McKibben and Monbiot and Chomsky display their utterly delusional thinking. It really is hilarious (in small doses).

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Gyan1
August 6, 2022 9:50 am

Unfortunately, psychotic delusion appears to be contagious. The brain dead will parrot his nonsense like it was unquestionable truth.

Kevin McNeill
August 6, 2022 10:21 am

Monidiot

Peta of Newark
August 6, 2022 10:36 am

Getting desperate are we George – nobody listening to your unhinged rants any more? Gotta wind it up a gear or two now eh?

OK George, explain how 10’s of millions of Buffalo survived in the US for 1,’000’s of years and left behind some of the most fertile soil on this Earth and maintained the Ogallalla Aquifer at brim full capacity?
How did they do that George?

btw. Nice shot of what I’d take to be pedigree Limousin.
One does have to be careful tho, the idea that Red = Danger is not a human invention, we borrowed from somewhere.
What shows up beautifully in the picture is:
How to tell a docile cow from one that is maybe ‘not so docile’ or shall we say, ‘Temperamental’

You look for the whorl in the hair on their face.

  • If the whorl is above a line joining the centres of their eyes, you have A Quiet One on your hands – some folks assert that ‘the higher the better/quieter
  • If the whorl is on the centre line or below – Do Not trust That Animal as far as you could throw it

But in any case and ALWAYS, never make direct eye-to-eye contact with animals like cows.
i.e. Animas with eyes on opposite sides of their heads.
Critters like us, with forward facing eyes (stereoscopic vision) are/were always The Predators in their world.
So if a cow sees a pair of stereo eyes focussed on it, every fibre in its body is going into fight/flight mode – and that is when people get hurt.
Especially folks walking (of course) dogs

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Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Peta of Newark
August 6, 2022 6:25 pm

I want other predators and lesser animals to know that I’m the top predator and to avoid me at all costs. The trick is to be sure they have an escape route other than over my dead body.

Richard Brown
August 6, 2022 10:47 am

Monbiot the moron opens his gob and once again pollutes the planet with the crap he spews out.

Philip
August 6, 2022 11:00 am

Hey! George, be careful what you wish for:



Alasdair
August 6, 2022 11:27 am

Why does the WUWT site give airtime to this dangerous idiot spreading mental health problems to our children and vulnerable people.

Gunga Din
Reply to  Alasdair
August 6, 2022 1:42 pm

Why?
Not everyone is aware of it.
How many parents knew that’s AlGore’s “Incontinent Truth” was being shown in schools as the gospel truth?

John in Cheshire
August 6, 2022 11:31 am

This obsession with finding causes to blame for things happening over which people have no control is Paganism.
These people are effectively trying to placate their god, gaia, or Baal, or Moloch, or whatever they call their climate god these days.
The next logical step in their pagan beliefs will be human sacrifices.

Doonman
August 6, 2022 11:44 am

Oh Please. Humans can’t eat grass. Horses, Cows, pigs, goats, sheep and chickens can. Humans can eat all of these and use them for labor which is why they were domesticated in the first place.

August 6, 2022 12:01 pm

Why do you give this fool Monbiot such publicity?. Human based climate change is a scam.
Monboit knows nothing about science. Me? 40 years experience teaching physics based energy,climate,environment subjects. International speaker at climate conferences in US and China. Double masters in physical sciences. Humans have little impact on the climate. It is the sun and ocean cycles.

David Middleton
August 6, 2022 12:15 pm

I’m sorry, animals of all types have existed for hundreds of millions of years all over the world putting out poop, urine and who knows what else. How is that cattle are now going to destroy the planet? For years, the big thinkers have said that there was not going to be enough food to feed the population. Now they want to destroy a food source?

Gunga Din
Reply to  David Middleton
August 6, 2022 1:51 pm

Its kind of simple even if it is stupid.
If a critter is domesticated, it’s not “Natural”.
If a crop is domesticated, it’s not “Natural”.
If Man had anything to do with anything, its not “Natural”.
Therefore, Man must be controlled to preserve what is “Natural”.
(Yet to hear any coherent argument that Man and what we do is not also “Natural”.)

Ed Zuiderwijk
August 6, 2022 12:20 pm

Monbiot is an idiot.

KentN
August 6, 2022 1:04 pm

Perhaps Monbiot does not understand that manure is a central part of organic farming and is critical for building soil tilth.
Instead he gives us BS.
The scary part is that he obviously believes the things he says, and convinces others (sheep) too.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  KentN
August 6, 2022 6:28 pm

Lysenko believed what he said too.

Dave
August 6, 2022 2:48 pm

I tried being a vegan once, but then I listened carefully to the sounds the vegetables made when picked. Their little screams filled my head, and I couldn’t sleep for weeks. Now I’m committed to existing on air and water, though I’m not sure water doesn’t object to being drunk. I’ll have to look into that…

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Dave
August 6, 2022 6:30 pm

And, mimosa absolutely recoil at the touch of humans. I’m sure they would kill us if they had the chance.

shoehorn
August 6, 2022 2:56 pm

Moonbat hates that God cared for his creation.

‘what is mankind that you are mindful of them,
    human beings that you care for them?
You made them rulers over the works of your hands;
    you put everything under their feet:
 all flocks and herds,
    and the animals of the wild’

dk_
August 6, 2022 3:49 pm

Before 1750, the most reliable, strongest, non-human source of power was provided by oxen. Before 1800, the most numerous species in North America were Bison. Best common measure of relative wealth in Asia, Africa, and Europe before 1900 the number of domesticated animals. Before domestication of the Aurochs, humans were hunter gatherers. Best means to reduce infant mortality and malnutrition dairy production.

While the transfer of disease from animals to humans is on almost everyone’s minds, we seem to forget that immunity to disease through real innoculation has often been developed in large quantities using large domesticated animals.

Weren’t these the people who had the data and settled the science?

Best means of heating and providing power this winter: cremate environmentalists; they’re self-starting.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  dk_
August 6, 2022 6:32 pm

With a little encouragement, self-immolating.

dk_
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
August 6, 2022 6:43 pm

Ack. A small amount of methanol, gasoline, kerosene is also a help. Good news: in these days of great enlightenment, progress and technological advance, we can make it biodiesel.

spren
August 6, 2022 3:54 pm

Monbiot is actually a Moonbat and it is his like we should be eliminating. Insane fools like him are our true existential threat.

MarkW2
August 6, 2022 3:56 pm

How can ‘The Guardian’ continue to take the views of this idiot seriously? No doubt they’ll find a way.

Actually, this is great news. It’s so outrageous that only the Liberal elite will be stupid enough to take it seriously. Joe Public will just laugh.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  MarkW2
August 6, 2022 6:34 pm

How can ‘The Guardian’ continue to take the views of this idiot seriously?

That is a serious question. Perhaps the editors of The Guardian are similarly deranged.

Tim Gorman
August 6, 2022 4:01 pm

Quick note: for those comparing bison and cows. I believe bison have slightly different hooves than cows. Bison hoofs are more pointed and act like aerators while cow hooves are more flat and compress the earth more than cut it. Haven’t researched this extensively. Anyone know for sure?

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Tim Gorman
August 6, 2022 6:38 pm

I don’t know the answer either. However, we have been shoeing horses for almost as long as we have been riding them. There is nothing stopping us from shoeing cows with ‘cowshoes’ with aeration spikes to improve the soil. 🙂

roaddog
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
August 6, 2022 8:27 pm

Settle down.

StephenP
Reply to  Tim Gorman
August 7, 2022 11:16 am

Cattle used as draught animals, for ploughing and pulling carts, were often shod with a pair of L shaped shoes on each foot.
I have occasionally found examples on freshly ploughed ground.
The plough strips produced by oxen ploughs were S shaped as the 4 or 6 strong teams that were used had to start turning before they reached the end of the furlong.
Horses only needed two to pull a plough.
Somewhere i have a photograph I took near Unter Ammergau in Southern Garmany in 1963 of a cow being used to plough a field which had been milked before working in the field.
In the next field was a modern Claas combine harvester.

John Kelly
August 6, 2022 4:34 pm

I’m so relieved that someone has found something that is “worse” than mining. Well done George.

RobK
August 6, 2022 5:17 pm

“ But also switch out of farming altogether to produce protein-rich foods, which we can do through precision fermentation – brewing microbes.”

AKA- ruminants. It’s what farmers do.

Old Cocky
Reply to  RobK
August 6, 2022 6:06 pm

Far too few people seem to know that ruminants are mobile self-feeding fermentation vats.

Danley Wolfe
August 6, 2022 5:44 pm

Obvious nut case. Not worth spending much time on, other than to illustrate such.

shoehorn
Reply to  Danley Wolfe
August 6, 2022 6:58 pm

Unfortunately, politicians listen to environmental nutcases and are in the process of taking our resources off of us.

Clyde Spencer
August 6, 2022 6:05 pm

So-called environmentalists have been complaining about cows and their impact on water supplies for some time. One of the things that these ‘experts’ overlook is that cows can be grazed on land that is unsuitable for intensive mechanized agriculture, and the cows will bring themselves to water, obviating the need for the sort of extensive irrigation needed by many forms of agriculture.

Jeff Labute
August 6, 2022 7:18 pm

Why would MonIdiot, an environmentalist (loosely at best), know anything about climate?

Petit_Barde
August 6, 2022 11:12 pm

This useful crackpot is trying to make believe that cattles in a grassland (there were as many if not more 150 years ago) is endangering the planet while Gate & Co are pushing for an industrial chimical fake meat and other synthetic food complements mass production.

I smell a scam.

Eric Vieira
August 6, 2022 11:54 pm

What about shutting down climate activism, and all that it’s responsible for ? And then using all that eco-green money for useful things ..

Disputin
Reply to  Eric Vieira
August 7, 2022 3:31 am

Agreed, but how?

StephenP
Reply to  Disputin
August 7, 2022 11:24 am

The WEF and Davos crowd should cease flying in their private jets and use Zoom for their conferences, also change their diet to the one they are wanting to force us to adopt, viz Veganism.
Think of all the lobsters, foie gras geese and beef cattle saved.
Also no wine as the fermentation process produces CO2.

August 7, 2022 1:47 am

Where is the proof that ‘Animal farming is one of The Greatest Causes of Climate Breakdown’ ??
https://edmhdotme.wordpress.com/mis-representation-of-the-effectiveness-of-greenhouse-gasses/

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August 7, 2022 2:32 am

Perhaps Monbiot should consider the climate change “emissions” from millions of 30 tonne dinosaurs around 90 million years ago before raving on about the humble 500kg cow.

zemlik
August 7, 2022 2:33 am

If you leave the “ecosystem” alone you get weeds and then trees, good luck eating those.

steven c lohr
August 7, 2022 6:39 am

I wish I could figure out why people listen to this jackass. This is not an enlightened thinker, this is a nutbag. He has produced enough uninformed claptrap to win the prize for misinformation guru. He is the mouth piece for some of the most destructive and confusing public pronouncements of the 21st century so far. He is dangerously messed up in the head.

Michael in Dublin
August 7, 2022 9:19 am

In Ireland a doctor turned Radio presenter, who has misled the public on medical matters – which are her field of expertise – can be trusted on her climate views. When one hears her political pontificating, a discerning person recognizes why. It is “horse manure” to quote an old broadcaster colleague of hers who was booted for being too honest.

‘Agriculture has got off lightly’ (on emission targets)

n.n
August 7, 2022 9:52 am

Vegans.

marlene
August 7, 2022 3:28 pm

The truth is the wealthiest globalist useless breathers want to shut down animal farming so as not to use THEIR land to feed us “useless eaters.” 

Lonster
August 8, 2022 5:58 am

I gather Mr. Monbiot does not own leather shoes or belts. Nor does he drink milk or eat cheese, etc.

Just another likely grifter, grandstanding his way through life.

Matthew Sykes
August 8, 2022 8:08 am

I just cant believe anyone could spout so much obvious twaddle as this. Cattle merely take the place of Bison and Aurochs, from which they are descended, in the environment. Farming them on grass, as we do almost 100% in the uk (some beet is fed them too) is replicating a tens of thousands of years old ecological balance between ruminant and prairie.

Mike
August 8, 2022 8:21 pm

The real climate crisis is just around the corner if we keep doing what we’re doing…
just around the next corner….. well, the next corner…..just over that hill….the next hill….
just around the next corner, I promise….well not this corner, but the next one and the next and the next……

Mike
August 8, 2022 8:24 pm

I’ll bet this greenie wants us to eat bugs, like Bill Gates does.
But won’t be including it in his own diet any time soon.

Craig from Oz
August 8, 2022 11:28 pm

Pot calling kettle as I do wear reading glasses, but I tend to distrust anyone with very powerful prescription lenses.

These people can literally not see the big picture, so I feel it can cloud their thinking processes.

I also ‘love’ the way clearly incorrect myths get reported as hard science for decades.

“Cattle need masses amount of water for every kilo of meat!”

Conservation of mass? A kilo of meat is still only a kilo. It is not holding masses of water. The water, when used, is processed through the animal and then exits the system as urine, sweat and other discharges. It is not locked into the cow.

Some of these people are either deliberately pushing open lies to suit their own objectives or are really so low in basic mental processes that they shouldn’t be allowed near machinery.

Mark
August 12, 2022 9:06 am

RTE are the mouth piece of the Irish Government, so liberal and WOKE and it’s destroying the Island and no one can or will stand up to it, they are completely brainwashed by the media and big tech. The Irish Government are bought and paid for by Soros, Controlled by the WEF and the UN and EU, there is no hope for us.

Irish People are Brainwashed 100% by the RTE and the WOKE Media.

All this climate nonsense is in the news now almost daily.

Funny, ever since Trump left office no one talks anything negative about the biden admin yet Trump was daily bashed in our media. So this shows what political side they’re on and support.

Ireland has so much USA Big tech companies and they all have agendas and control us too.

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