You are the pollution they want to eliminate! Study: ‘Eating Too Much Protein Makes (Human) Pee a Problem Pollutant in the U.S.’ – ‘Can contribute to warming’

From Climate Depot

Marc Morano

New study, published in the journal Frontiers in Ecology and the Environment

Scientific American: “In the U.S., people eat more protein than they need to. And though it might not be bad for human health, this excess does pose a problem for the country’s waterways. The nation’s wastewater is laden with the leftovers from protein digestion: nitrogen compounds that can feed toxic algal blooms and pollute the air and drinking water. …

Once it enters the environment, the nitrogen in urea can trigger a spectrum of ecological impacts known as the “nitrogen cascade.” Under certain chemical conditions, and in the presence of particular microbes, urea can break down to form gases of oxidized nitrogen. These gases reach the atmosphere, where nitrous oxide (N2O) can contribute to warming via the greenhouse effect and nitrogen oxides (NOx) can cause acid rain.” … Patricia Glibert, an oceanographer at the University of Maryland, suggests consumers could switch to a “demitarian” diet—an approach that focuses on reducing the consumption of meat and dairy..”

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Climate Depot’s Morano: “They will not give up. They will continue to scare you about climate change in every, and any conceivable way. Now when you pee, you are allegedly a human pollution machine that is heating up the planet. The voiding of your bladder must be curtailed for the sake of the planet! So says ‘The Science’!” 

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https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/eating-too-much-protein-makes-pee-a-problem-pollutant-in-the-u-s/#

By Sasha Warren

In the U.S., people eat more protein than they need to. And though it might not be bad for human health, this excess does pose a problem for the country’s waterways. The nation’s wastewater is laden with the leftovers from protein digestion: nitrogen compounds that can feed toxic algal blooms and pollute the air and drinking water. This source of nitrogen pollution even rivals that from fertilizers washed off of fields growing food crops, new research suggests.

When we overconsume protein—whether it comes from lentils, supplements or steak—our body breaks the excess down into urea, a nitrogen-containing compound that exits the body via urine and ultimately ends up in sewage. Maya Almaraz, a biogeochemist at the University of California, Davis, and her colleagues wanted to see how much of this nitrogen is being flushed into the U.S. sewage system because of a protein-heavy diet. The researchers combined population data and previous work on how much excess protein the average American eats and found that the majority of nitrogen pollution present in wastewater—some 67 to 100 percent—is a by-product of what people consume. “We think a lot about sewage nitrogen. We know that’s an issue,” Almaraz says. “But I didn’t know how much of that is actually affected by the choices we’re making way upstream—when we go the grocery store, when we cook a meal and what we end up putting in our bodies.”

Once it enters the environment, the nitrogen in urea can trigger a spectrum of ecological impacts known as the “nitrogen cascade.” Under certain chemical conditions, and in the presence of particular microbes, urea can break down to form gases of oxidized nitrogen. These gases reach the atmosphere, where nitrous oxide (N2O) can contribute to warming via the greenhouse effect and nitrogen oxides (NOx) can cause acid rain. Other times, algae and cyanobacteria, photosynthetic bacteria also called blue-green algae, feed on urea directly. The nitrogen helps them grow much faster than they would normally, clogging vital water supplies with blooms that can produce toxins that are harmful to humans, other animals and plants. And when the algae eventually die, the problem is not over. Microorganisms that feast on dead algae use up oxygen in the water, leading to “dead zones,” where many aquatic species simply cannot survive, in rivers, lakes and oceans. Blooms from Puget Sound to Tampa, Fla., have caused large fish die-offs.

Almaraz and her team suggest, however, that curbing nitrogen pollution could be approached more quickly with a change in eating habits that could save billions of dollars in the long term.

Their new study, published in Frontiers in Ecology and the Environment, broke down protein requirements by age (adults 50 to 70 years old need the most) for the current U.S. population and projected future populations out to 2055. By midcentury, the country’s population is expected to be larger overall and to have a greater percentage of older people. The researchers calculated the amount of nitrogen that would enter the environment if people ate today’s average American diet and if they instead reduced their protein intake to only what is nutritionally needed. This shift in diet alone could reduce the amount of nitrogen reaching aquatic ecosystems by 12 percent today and by nearly 30 percent in the future, according to the study’s results. Such a change could also help reduce damaging nitrogen pollution while wastewater infrastructure catches up.

“Many people think that we need to all switch to becoming vegetarians. Obviously, that’s not practical. That’s not something that is really ever going to happen,” Glibert says. Rather than cutting out any foods entirely, she suggests consumers could switch to a “demitarian” diet—an approach that focuses on reducing the consumption of meat and dairy, which currently make up about two thirds of the protein eaten in the U.S. “Enjoy your steak, enjoy your burger but go modest on your meat consumption in your following meal,” she says.

Sasha Warren is a 2022 AAAS Mass Media Fellow at Scientific American. They are currently working on their PhD in planetary sciences at the University of Chicago. Follow them on Twitter@space_for_sasha

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MarkW
July 30, 2022 9:28 am

The urea is broken down by sewage treatment plants.
It doesn’t “enter the environment”.

Reply to  MarkW
July 30, 2022 10:48 am

A side note.
I remember seeing bags of ice melt near doors where I worked.
In big green letters on the bags was the word “Organic”.
Urea was one of the ingredients mixed in with the usual salts.
(I doubt if anybody sprinkled any on their food.)

dk_
July 30, 2022 9:58 am

Re: the graphic, bugs are protein too!

As to the doctoral study, rather than looking at what goes into waste water treatment, perhaps they/them/those could check the output. Nitrates should be removed by the process. Much more pertinent to their pet issue is soil runoff and over-fertilization due to improper (read as government planned) crop rotation. But actual agronomy and chemistry are probably too intellectually challenging in an environmental demonology course of study.

marlene
July 30, 2022 10:27 am

Misusing science as propaganda for so-called “environ-mentalists” false assertions brings to light the real possibility that the inmates are running this administration’s asylum.

July 30, 2022 10:31 am

…nitrous oxide (N2O) can contribute to warming via the greenhouse effect…
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This is more of the Global Warming Potential (GWP) numbers misdirection. N2O is increasing about 1 ppb (part per billion) every year by 2100 that’s an increase of 78 ppb. If CO2 were to increase by 78 ppb, how much warming would that cause? You can figure that one out:
 
If CO2 were to increase from 0.0420% to 0.0420078% How much warming would that cause?

Knowing that a doubling of CO2 theoretically should cause ~1.2°C of warming an
increase of 0.078 ppm (0.0186%) CO2 would cause and an unmeasureable 0.0002°C and multiplied by N2O’s GWP number of 273 that comes to ~0.05°C which is still pretty much unmeasureable.

The above is nonsense as it ignores the concept of insignificant figures.

When ever you run across claims about Methane or Nitrous Oxide contributing to climate change because they are greenhouse gases, ask the question, “So how much warming will they cause?” and demand an answer. 

Reply to  Steve Case
July 30, 2022 11:26 am

You’d think they’d want more laughing gas in the atmosphere.
Dentists sometimes use it so that the patient doesn’t care what is happening in their mouth!

July 30, 2022 11:01 am

People who are overly concerned with too many humans on Earth should eliminate themselves as a favor to everyone. If that thought scares you, then become a Buddhist. They don’t need a national 988 number.

tgasloli
July 30, 2022 11:13 am

I’m old enough to remember when Scientific American and Nature were actual science magazines. It is very sad how far these publications, and American science generally, have fallen. Government funding and “research universities” destroyed science. It is all politics all the time now.

KcTaz
July 30, 2022 11:28 am

At the latest COP shindig where many climate nutters flew in on their private jets, they served a special steak but that wasn’t good enough for the Royalty of the Climate Change court. They actually served the steaks with real gold curls on top!

Facebook mysteriously banned people from saying ‘#SaltBae’
https://yhoo.it/3OC4IRF
11/9/21

Excerpt:

…Last week, Vietnam’s minister of public security, To Lam, was filmed at that restaurant while in the UK to visit the COP26 climate conference in Glasgow. That video – showing the chef feeding the minister a gold encrusted steak – was then posted to Mr Gökçe’s official Twitter account.
The video caused outrage in Vietnam and beyond, amid questions over whether such a high-ranking official should be seen to be eating the expensive meal amid an ongoing corruption crackdown in the country.
Soon after the outrage developed, the video was removed from Mr Gökçe’s official TikTok account. Accounts that attempted to re-post had it removed under TikTok’s community standards, Reuters reported.
After that, however, Facebook did not simply ban the video but rather any use of the #SaltBae hashtag at all. The ban applied globally, not just in Vietnam.

Reply to  KcTaz
July 30, 2022 2:24 pm

Why would Facebook care about a Vietnamese officials dinner?

Yahoo bans any post with “Lets go Brandon” in it. They say it’s against their “community” values. OK they like Joe Biden a lot and won’t tolerate humor his expense. But Vietnam?

KcTaz
July 30, 2022 11:42 am

Cop26 Delegates Served Meat, Dairy Despite U.N. Call for Reduced Intake
https://bit.ly/3OANzIe
11/21
The menu for the United Nation’s (U.N.) annual climate change conference, Cop26, included close to 60 percent meat or dairy-based meals despite advocating for a switch to plant-based diets to save the climate.
The 26th annual Conference of the Parties, where President Joe Biden dozed off, is a yearly meeting where world leaders gather to discuss strategies to combat climate change. In 2015, COP21 happened in Paris, which gave the world the infamous Paris climate agreement…

File this under Do As I Say, Not As I Do!

Here’s there latest solution for what they will allow us to eat. I didn’t notice any of this being served at COP 26, though. All I can say is, I guess it beats eating bugs!

You, on the other hand, will eat seaweed and be happy.

THE TRICK TO SEAWEED INTO YOUR DIET*.png
Richard Page
Reply to  KcTaz
July 30, 2022 3:11 pm

If it’s with sushi, I’m sure nobody will notice.

July 30, 2022 11:42 am

Perhaps those who insist we change what we eat because of the effect CAGW should themselves adopt a food-free diet?

Tom Abbott
July 30, 2022 11:53 am

From the article: “Sasha Warren is a 2022 AAAS Mass Media Fellow at Scientific American. They are currently working on their PhD in planetary sciences at the University of Chicago. Follow them on Twitter@space_for_sasha”

So should I assume Sasha prefers to be referred to as “they” and “them”? Or did they leave out another author?

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 30, 2022 12:57 pm

Follow them on Twitter@space_for_sasha

Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 30, 2022 4:46 pm

Maybe her middle name is “Sybil”?

KcTaz
July 30, 2022 11:57 am

Earth’s atomosphere is 78% Nitrogen. How in the world do they think Earth has survived all these billions of years with that much N if N is bad for Earth? This may be the dumbest thing the CAGWers have come up with to date.

July 30, 2022 12:23 pm

total junk

Clyde Spencer
July 30, 2022 12:23 pm

They are currently working on their PhD in planetary sciences at the University of Chicago. Follow them on …

Does (s)he/it have a split personality that warrants a plural designation? Or, is it more a case of identifying with the “Royal We”? Could her preference for pronouns say something about her other strongly held personal opinions?

How does being a graduate student in “planetary sciences” give one sufficient expertise in diet and ecosystem pollution to warrant recognition by the formerly respected Scientific American?

Old Cocky
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
July 30, 2022 5:12 pm

or is it the Royal wee?

Duane
July 30, 2022 12:24 pm

Well first of all, wastewater treatment plants in most of the world treat for ammonia, of which the average human secretes about 12-13 g per day. A typical treatment plant removes the ammonia by oxidizing it to nitrite and then to nitrate. Depending upon the actual levels of nitrate residual in the wastewater, then an additional step of converting the nitrates to nitrogen gas can be employed. The isn’t going to be much nitrous oxide released by a modern wastewater plant, and in the US under the 1990 Clean Air Act Amendments, is strictly regulated.

Much ado about nothing.

July 30, 2022 2:33 pm

NPK is essential for all life on earth. People who call certain elements on the periodic table pollution are just nuts. They are all natural. Don’t listen to crazy people. They are not your friends.

littlepeaks
July 30, 2022 2:37 pm

I have to eat a lot of protein. I’ve been diagnosed with low protein in my blood

JoeG
July 30, 2022 2:44 pm

What do waste treatment plants do? When we flush does it go straight to the rivers?

Richard Page
Reply to  JoeG
July 30, 2022 3:13 pm

Exactly. That means it isn’t coming from our pee, it’s from somewhere else entirely, aka – they’re lying for ‘the cause’ again.

Reply to  JoeG
July 30, 2022 5:03 pm

Simplified, most use natural processes (bacteria) to break down the “food” into simple compounds that plants use for food. They supply the aeration and nature does the rest.
But they seem to tag nitrogen atoms with a teensy, tiny label that says “Made by Man”. Just like the do with carbon atoms.
(The transponders were tricky to make. Nanotech. The only good thing to come out of CliSy.)

another ian
July 30, 2022 5:19 pm

From Spike Milligan’s War Histories description –

The smell of North Africa – a 1000 years of piss and drains

Not Chicken Little
July 30, 2022 7:06 pm

Both words in the title of this once-useful magazine are lies…

Buck Fiden
July 30, 2022 7:47 pm

What we need is nitrogen sequestration! Pee in the garden! Or on a vegan.

tom hewitt
July 30, 2022 7:57 pm
Plebney
July 30, 2022 9:31 pm

Remember: World food shortage because we can’t make enough fertilizer while at the same time flushing it down toilets.

guidoLaMoto
July 31, 2022 12:19 am

Pardon me for asking, but– If we didn’t eat the meat, what would happen to the Nitrogen in it?….and when the sewage water is “properly treated,” is the N turned into something else? Is there a Philosopher’s Stone for N?

Rick Kargaard
Reply to  guidoLaMoto
July 31, 2022 1:21 pm

Cows pee a lot. save the planet. Eat them.

Gary Pate
July 31, 2022 12:31 am

Good thing I pee out in my back yard a lot. No waterways in sight. Now if you will excuse me I’ll get back to my steak…

ozspeaksup
July 31, 2022 2:07 am

well guess its a change from blaming the poor beknighted farmers..
and theyre not fessing up to wanting to cull 30% to 50% of humans(though they WOULD prefer that)
they have a problem with urea and phosphates in sewerage then get off their butts and PROCESS it to save for fertiliser.
if you have a garden pee in a bucket add water to the 2gallon mark and water trees etc with it
free and excellent plant food

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