From NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT
JULY 5, 2022
By Paul Homewood
Another step towards climate fraud:
We’re having a heat wave, a tropical heat wave. Also a temperate heat wave and an Arctic heat wave, with temperatures reaching the high 80s in northern Norway. Climate change is already doing immense damage, and it’s probably only a matter of time before we experience huge catastrophes that take thousands of lives.
Opinion | Another Step Toward Climate Apocalypse – The New York Times (nytimes.com)
Sheer fraud!
According to the Evening Standard, temperatures in Tromso reached 30C, or 86F:
Temperatures in the 80s are perfectly normal in the north of Norway, such as Tromso:
And there is no evidence that these sort of temperatures are getting more common.
According to Wikipedia, the record high temperature at Tromso was 86.4F, set in July 1972.
The rest of Krugman’s article is just a boring diatribe against the Republicans and the Supreme Court, which explains perfectly why Krugman is lying through his back teeth.
He sounds like an old rocker has been trying to stay on stage and sing.
Why is the guy trying to stay relevant?
He has his reason$
The NYT keeps him relevant (or at least tries to) because Krugman fits the narrative the NYT is selling to the public. Whether he is ever right about anything does not matter as long as you believe.
Krugman is just as bad as Nye. The more they flap their gums the more riducleous the
bullshit gets
krugman has never been right on anything.
Even the economic model he was awarded the Nobel in Economics for proved to be wrong. (he kept the award anyway.)
He was right once, AFAIK. On the issue of “bailouts” being BS — if you won’t let them sink, then nationalize them.
Because he’s pining for the fjords.
Isn’t that a picture of a “mostly peaceful” demonstration?
Is that person carrying a broom?
Krugman is valuable in that assuming the reverse of his claims is likely to be true. It takes skill to be so consistently wrong.
Skill, and a lot of formal education.
He, Greider & Galbraith were “The Three Stooges” of liberal economics!
Yep, it is hard to go wrong betting against Paul Krugman.
I am Flam in Norway at present and it is 9 degrees C and showers. We dream of 80 degrees F !!!!
Meanwhile the provinces of Alberta and Saskatchewan in Canada have been cooler than normal….and are about 4 times the size of Norway…..
Wish I could make a living hyping a single data point. Instead, I have to wade through decades and millions of data points…
We have quite a few trolls who whine endlessly every time someone mentions a location where there has been no warming, or even cooling.
Then they turn around and hype a single high temperature record.
The Alarmists and Greenies specialise in internet fraud and well know how to disappear when challenged.
Is this the same Paul Krugman, the economists, whose economic predictions are so spectaculary wrong but we must now believe his climate predictions?
Please, allow me to add: “… the same Paul Krugman, the economists, whose economic predictions are so spectaculary wrong that they granted him a Nobel prize, …”
When in 1915 when both William Lawrence Bragg and his father William Henry Bragg received the Nobel Prize in Physics it really meant something. By 2008 when Paul Krugman received it in the Economic sciences (an oxymoron?) Nobel prizes were being handed out not for performance but with politics/ideology being the deciding factor.
Yeah once they gave the Nobel Peace Prize to Yasser Arafat, whose modus operandi was to start the “peace talks” every time the PLO was running out of ammo, ‘Nobel Prizes’ essentially lost all credibility.
How about Obama, who received a Nobel prize essentially for being black !!
1/2 black, but elected POTUS.
If he is only 1/2 black he should only have gotten 1/2 of the award. He should have had to share it with his wife.
And for droning brown people…oh wait that wasn’t what he won the award for 😉
For being not Bush.
He mostly got the NPP for not being George W Bush. His accomplishment was defeating scary Republicans.
And the most confused of all as to why he got the Nobel was Barack Obama !!
The purpose never changed, only details of The Narrative.
Consider how they started: Nobel tucked his tail between the legs from yapping of the usual lapdogs, so he figured maybe if he buys an custom expensive indulgency, the priest of Yellow Press would forgive his sins against hypocritical Quakerism («we love you, you love us… or we throw you under the bus»ⓒSinfest).
I think the hard science Nobels are still pretty valid; But economics, literature, etc. are a political wasteland. Not even counting the stupid “Peace Prize” which is not awarded by the same folks.
Yes, I learned this lesson when I quoted a Friedman as a Nobel Laurette:
forgive the Wiki:
Why did Kastler Brossel Laboratory receive so many prize? Exceptional achievements maybe, but I can’t believe that other places aren’t worthy.
(And I’m French so I should just be proud.)
A bunch of small-country, Northern European socialists. They’d be speaking Russian were it not for the United States.
And US or not, before they die they are determined to join the Soviet Union!
They’ll have to rummage through the dustbin of history to find it to join, Rich.
Is that along with Al Gore, the politician, whose climate predictions were/are so spectacularly wrong that they granted him a Nobel prize…?
Yassir Arafat
Mickey Mann
Award certificate does double duty as toilet paper in a pinch
Michael Mann did NOT get a Nobel prize.
But claimed is documentation to a US court that he did.
Troo Dat.
He’s also famous for changing his “recommendations” based on which party is in the White House.
getting hotter;-)
i shouldnt laugh…but I am;-)
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/norwegian-strikes-could-sever-natgas-supplies-uk
Well, the UK will just have to turn up its solar and wind supplies… simple.
To 11?
It seems that Krugman is as bad in climate science as he his in economics (no, I did not change the terms by mistake; that is what I meant to write).
It is my understanding that the “Consensus” scientists (and their models) predict rising temps. Do those theories predict more extreme temperatures or just an across the board elevation of temperatures (with higher mins at night and at upper latitudes)?
At this point, they’ll take anything they can get, since their useless “models” have been overpredicting the amount of warming by a factor of 2-3× reality for more than three decades…
As a corollary, if there is any ‘extreme’ anything, anywhere on planet Earth, they will blame it on ‘climate change.” If nothing ‘special’ is going on, you’ll get radio silence.
Yes, radio silence doesn’t often prevail. If you monitor 100 places for 1 in 100 year events, you should get one a year on average.
In fact; the really interesting thing is that they don’t get more extreme events, considering they are effectively monitoring 10’s of 1000’s of places… especially as the UHI Thumb is on the scale of many of the airport based stations. It might be worth looking at the actual prevalance of extreme events over the available records – it would be an interesting hypothesis to test if we are getting less than would have been predicted by chance alone.
I generally resist dispensing investment advice, but one thing I will say without hesitation is that you’ll never go broke betting on the opposite of whatever Paul Krugman says in the pages of the New York Times.
UAH had NoPol (60N-90N) +0.33C above the 1991-2020 average, so just the 10th warmest for that region in the UAH record. They had NoExt_Land (20N-90N) +0.50C above average for June though, making it the 3rd warmest June on record for that region. So there was certainly plenty of heat about.
So true, I run for cover whenever the temperature is a half a degree above average.
Face::palm.
Let’s not conflate local daily temperature variability with regionally averaged temperatures over vast areas over the course of a month. That would be silly.
Why would it be silly? Why is a regional average temperature any more significant than a local average tempeature?
ToeFungalNail,
Regionally averaged temperatures are highly variable too. All natural.
Western Washington had the fourth coldest spring (all 3 months) since record keeping began 130 years ago. Is that evidence of global cooling? No. No more than finding a warm month in a some particular region is evidence of a Climate Catastrophe.
You’re not going to convince anyone to join your climate alarmism religion by being dishonest.
kind of on par, i mean after all, we are in an inter glacial, wouldn’t you say?
But you don’t understand. Climate stopped in 1979. Ever since then CO2 has controlled everything. The models have proven that.
We are indeed in an interglacial, as I understand it. When you say ‘on par’, I have to respectfully disagree, based on the evidence from UAH. The June 2022 value of +0.50C for NoExt_Land in UAH is outside the standard deviation for June in that region (+/- 0.43C). According to UAH, June 2022 was unusually warm in this region, even for the period of generally warmer than average temperatures covered by UAH (since 1979 and based on the 1991-2020 mean).
If we had temps like that year round here in canada we wouldn’t see so many people escaping to the hot hellscape of Arizona and Florida in winter.
Funny how everyone craves and strives for more heat even climate thermageddonists like your people.
And ‘my people’ are…?
I got a vote down, so at least somebody read my comment. Can that person elaborate please on what you think is meant by “my people”? I’m not aware that I’m representing anyone other than myself. Thanks.
The tenth warmest in what, 2, 3 decades? Not as impressive as you want to believe.
Since the world is still warming up out of the Little Ice Age, increased warming is not unusual.
Nor is the warming bad.
Who’s saying it is?
Everyone who says that CO2 has to be controlled in order to prevent more warming.
Agree. The Arctic was warmer than average. Not that impressive. Re the world still warming from the LIA: lost count of the times it’s been pointed out here that global temperatures showed no warming trend between 1850 and 1930.
MarkW
No, 4 decades, and counting.
So, not the warmest. What’s your point, apart from confirming that the current temps are perfectly normal?
Like most alarmists, he believes that if he can prove that it is warming, this will prove that CO2 is bad and must be controlled.
I couldn’t care less if CO2 is controlled or not. In fact, I rather enjoy observing the conflagration from my own, relatively unaffected, perch. what I’m most interested in is seeing people contort themselves into denial of reality.
Well, if they’re +0.5C above ‘normal’, then they’re not ‘normal’, are they?
To elaborate, ‘normal’, in the case of UAH, is the average lower troposphere temperature across a region over the course of a month; where ‘average’ is determined from the monthly mean temperature of that region between 1991-2020.
In June 2022, the UAH monthly temperature for the region UAH define as NoExt_land, which includes much of Europe, North America,northern Asian and the Arctic, was +0.50 warmer than the 1991-2020 average. The standard deviation for June in this region is +/- 0.43C; so whatever way you cut it, according to UAH, June 2022 was exceptionally warm in their NoExt region.
You are, as always, invited to check this out for yourself. But, of course, you won’t, will you?
Normal is generally a range, not a specific value. Because a variable climate is normal.
Congratulations, you’ve just won the award for dumbest comment on the internet this year.
Griff was a close contender, but you just beat him.
Who would have thought that 24 hours of sunshine could heat things up a bit. Tromso is about 300 km north of the Arctic Circle. Same for other famously cold places such as Alaska, The Yukon and Siberia.
Tromso is known for the Northernmost University and the Northernmost brewery. Still trying to figure out if there is a connection there ..
It has an unusually large number of bars, cafeś and restaurant certainly for Norwegian standards. This is all caused by the micro-climate of Tromso. The northernmost tip of the “conveyer belt” dips into Tromso harbour giving it a nice almost mediterranean feeling.
Everytime I am in Tromso I love it (Bla Rock Pub !!) and especially the light is spectacular.
Darn I want a Mack Øl now!
No kidding and MN in the US had their 4th coldest April ever.
I think the article is about temperatures in Europe and the Arctic in June. You want to talk about temperatures in MN in April. That’s fine.
You are delusional.
Almost every value on that variances table you posted struggles to reach a whole unit (1), most are hundredths of a degree (C presumably), signed minus (-).
“Plenty of heat” is when your patio thermometer (scaled in whole units of 1 degree C) shows 35 and above.
When that variances table has entries such as “+15”, then you’ve got “plenty of heat about.
Best to address your concerns to Roy Spencer of UAH, who publishes that database. These are variations around a long term average over vast regions. Most scientists, including, I presume, Dr Spencer, see value in these figures. You disagree. Fair enough. Maybe you really do know better than them. Or maybe you don’t.
Did Dr. Roy say “plenty of heat about”?
Or was that just your take on his table?
Go buy yourself some carbon offsets. You’ll feel better in the morning. Or go smoke a joint. Whatever.
I don’t smoke.
Paul Krugman epitomizes what is fraudulent about the reputation and credibility of a Nobel prize winner and its selection committee.
BTW: The Nobel Prize in economics has been elevated to a science now.
Not even close. Obama epitomizes what is fraudulent about the reputation and credibility of a Nobel prize winner and its selection committee.
Absolutely correct; however I was concerned with economics not world peace. I seem to have developed what has been diagnosed as a bit of Brandon Syndrome.
Especially since the model he was awarded the prize for was proven to be incapable of predicting anything.
Krugman is apparently vying for the title of modern-day Renaissance Man: equally incompetent in all disciplines.
Tony Heller also takes Krugman apart at the seams.
https://realclimatescience.com/2022/07/tropical-heatwave-in-new-york/
One of the big tells of the global-hyper-themageddon cult is that crap like this never gets called out. Even if we stipulate that CO2 raises GAT, it does so by warming dry cold nights primarily in high latitudes and in deserts. The effect on daytime highs will be nil except where there is virtually no water in the atmosphere.
This is such a fundamental point. It goes to the heart of the whole narrative – slightly less chilly nights in the deserts. But let’s run with catastrophic forest fires, massive hurricane wind bombs, and sunken cities, instread.
They use data that’s only accurate to 0,1C and woefully undersampled, to try and prove that the oceans have warmed by 0,003C.
Then they turn around and declare that since they have “proven” that the oceans are warmer than they were 100 years ago and therefore all storms are stronger, which proves that all damage done by said storms is the fault of CO2.
They skip the step where they first demonstrate that storms are stronger. They aren’t.
They skip the step where they prove these stronger storms are actually causing more damage. They aren’t.
Heck, they skip the step where they demonstrate that any of that supposed 0.003C ocean warming was caused by CO2.
When has Krugshit ever been right about anything?”
Has Krugman ever been right about anything?
We’re not having a heat wave.
Chance would be a fine thing
Also Krugman:
Is there a better example of how you can have a rich career while being spectacularly wrong about almost everything?
Economists. Climate Scientists. Epidemiologists. Sports Forecasters.
Flight delays and COVID tests aside, I’m heading to Norway next week, and while 30 degrees is a bit much for someone packing for 20 degrees, at least I’ll use the pool more…
“Is there a better example of how you can have a rich career while being spectacularly wrong about almost everything”?
Climate modelling.
“Countries across Europe broke temperature records in June – with an unprecedented 32.5C (90.5F) reported in the Arctic Circle.
Norway’s Meteorological Institute has warned the high temperatures are a clear signal of climate change.
In Banak, where this new record was broken, average temperatures for June typically stand at 13C (55F).”
so the Norwegian new arctic record was in an area where temps are usually less than half the new record…
It was warm somewhere for a bit
Big deal *shrugs shoulders*
The Pacific Northwest experienced 3 days of record highs in June 2021. This has been followed by a year of lower than average temperatures, including 3 days of record lows at the end of last December. The media constantly tells us that the “heat dome” was due to climate change but the year-long cold is due to La Nina. There is little doubt that natural variability will bring cooler than normal temperatures back to Europe and the world will watch and chuckle over how your “renewable” grid fares.
And?
How does this prove CO2, specifically man-made CO2 is responsible?
Temperatures are normally 150K or -120C in those parts?
Like I said above about trolls touting every heat record as proof of global warming.
There is absolutely nothing abnormal about heat waves anywhere, even above the arctic circle.
The Lapps should be celebrating until the break of dawn- at least a week from now.
BTW, your math sucks. 287°K is NOT < 153°K!
But now it’s July and the temperatures are no longer at records. So why is that? Why don’t you tell us what happened to all the warming.
“Norway’s Meteorological Institute has warned the high temperatures are a clear signal of climate change.”
I wonder what they said about the record coldest summer they had in 2020?
According to state meteorologists, Oslo has recorded an average temperature of just 14.7 °C (58.5 °F) this month, which was the coldest in nearly 30 years.
Meanwhile, Bergen’s average has been even colder at 12.8 °C (55 °F). Trondheim hit 12.1 °C (53.8 °F), the coldest for almost 60 years.
By early July, more than 10 m (32 feet) of snow accumulated in parts of the southern region, which was unprecedented for this time of the year.
… probably a clear signal of something or other.
Except the 32.5 C registered in Banak Norway may not be ‘unprecedented ‘ for Norway and certainly not an Arctic circle temperature record .[ Fort Yukon Alaska recorded a 100F high over a century ago ]. Anthony and the WUWT team why is the Tromso maximum temperature series abbreviated to 1925 and do you have access to the extended time series ? Paul Homewood hasn’t answered thus far Tony Heller republished this newspaper clipping from The Argus dated August 14 1922 headlined ‘ Misplaced Tropical Heat Northern Norway Sweltering ‘ : ………….” Northern Norway is experiencing unprecedented tropical heat . Outdoor labour is now being done at night by the light of the midnight sun . Tromso , for six weeks ,has experienced temperatures ranging from 90 to 95 degrees Fahr “
Griff, how long is your record?
He is a Nobel Prize Laureate. He is at the apex of the consensus of experts on climate change. Man in demand. He keeps the dough flowing with articles like this. If he says it, no one has the authority to debunk him. Facts and graphs who cares. He has credentials and he may actually believe in the cause and what he is writing but he doesn’t actually have to. Lot’s of these guys align themselves in the niche of least resistance and once the have laurels they just keep pumping them for money.
The real question is where is the money coming from that keeps these articles flowing. I can’t believe NYT fascinates it’s readers with this sort of pandering. Even during my liberal radical environmentalist days I would have checked the veracity of the data in the article and it’s relevancy. it’s how I ended up finding WUWT in the first place 13 years ago. I am still a democrat (Blue Dog) and pro-environmentalist but this sort of propaganda wrecks minds long term. The gaslighting has gone on way too long.
Like CNN WaPo etc. NYT is also a heavily subsidized propaganda machine that would not survive otherwise.
… keeps the dough flowing [to solar, wind, electric vehicle, etc.] …
This guy is far more likely to be telling the truth:
The lack of cognition about what is happening in the real world is the only apocalypse happening. Paranoid psychosis has replaced reason.
Krugman used to be honest. Like so many once respected commentators, he’s just become a shill.
Once respected? By who?
Krugman also said incurring more government debt was no problem because we were simply borrowing it from ourselves.
The guy is such a little New York tribal fraudster. Even weaseled a Nobel for his garbage thoughts.
… and they accuse us of cherry picking.
Two days in the month get to 30°C, but over 20 days in the month struggle to reach 15°C, that’s climate change folks! ™…
https://weatherspark.com/h/m/148543/2022/6/Historical-Weather-in-June-2022-at-Lakselv-Banak-Airport-Norway
The month of June…
I’m from Regina, Saskatchewan, southern prairies of Canada. Every evening I watch the weather and rarely are are summer temperatures record breaking. The records are still held from the 1930’s and the 19teens. But my betters always inform me that that is weather not climate. But when it happens year in and year out I think it is climate.
That is pretty much the definition of climate. Weather that happens year in and year out.
” Krugman is lying through his back teeth”
in briefly alluding to a Norwegian heat wave. The article tries to prove the lying by quoting newspaper articles about the heat wave in Norway.
“According to Wikipedia, the record high temperature at Tromso was 86.4F, set in July 1972.”
Yes. But the point of the newspaper articles was that this heat wave was a record for June. Last May, Wiki said the June record for Tromso was 29.5C. Now it is 29.9C (85.8F).
Since 1949 the highest temperature recorded at Oslo Blindern weather station in Norway was 94.28 F.
Climate and temperature development in Norway (worlddata.info)
Odds are a higher temperature was recorded in 1922 when all kinds of record highs were recorded in the Arctic circle but I can’t seem to find that data for Norway.
Just two years ago Norway recorded its coldest summer in almost 60 years.
Norway records coldest summer in nearly 60 years – The Watchers
“You have a million people on this planet who call themselves economists. How many people understood the risks of the system [before the crisis]? … Paul Krugman was not one of them.”
“Paul Krugman is a danger to society.”
“The definition of a robust society: where Paul Krugman could exist without harming others.”
― Nassim Nicholas Taleb.
Very low winter temperatures in Argentina and South Africa. It is important to note that the low minimum temperatures occur during times of high pressure over the continent.
In the UK recently, we have experienced a series of mini heat waves. They travel up from the Sahara desert. They are well defined and forecast very well. On the evening weather bulletins we are shown large areas coloured red on the maps, covering Spain then France then the UK. I have no doubt that these blobs of warm air continue north to the countries of Scandinavia.
It is lovely but one downside is that our house windows and cars get a fine layer of desert sand get covered!
I honestly can’t remember Krugman ever being correct on anything!
In 1973 I had a holiday in Norway, it was warm! In Voss I spent the day sitting in the coolest place I could find, The Stave Church. Outside was over 90F, inside about 75F. On another occasion spent the night on the deck of a ferry, far to warm in a cabin.
Global warming? Nah!
An “economist” pretending to be a scientist.