Left: Kate Dooley, Research Fellow, Climate & Energy College, The University of Melbourne. Right: Zebedee Nicholls PhD Researcher at the Climate & Energy College, The University of Melbourne. Source The Conversation, Fair Use, Low resolution image to identify the subjects.

“No More Excuses”: Aussie Academics Demand Global Paris Agreement Compliance

Essay by Eric Worrall

Aussie climate academics demanding better international compliance with their diktats.

No more excuses: restoring nature is not a silver bullet for global warming, we must cut emissions outright

Published: July 4, 2022 4.09pm AEST

Kate Dooley Research Fellow, Climate & Energy College, The University of Melbourne
Zebedee Nicholls PhD Researcher at the Climate & Energy College, The University of Melbourne

Restoring degraded environments, such as by planting trees, is often touted as a solution to the climate crisis. But our new research shows this, while important, is no substitute for preventing fossil fuel emissions to limit global warming. 

We calculated the maximum potential for responsible nature restoration to absorb carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. And we found that, combined with ending deforestation by 2030, this could reduce global warming 0.18°C by 2100. In comparison, current pledges from countries put us on track for 1.9-2℃ warming.

This is far from what’s needed to mitigate the catastrophic impacts of climate change, and is well above the 1.5℃ goal of the Paris Agreement. And it pours cold water on the idea we can offset our way out of ongoing global warming.

The priority remains rapidly phasing out fossil fuels, which have contributed 86% of all CO₂ emissions in the past decade. Deforestation must also end, with land use, deforestation and forest degradation contributing 11% of global emissions.

Retaining the possibility of limiting warming to 1.5℃ requires rapid reductions in fossil fuel emissions before 2030 and global net-zero emissions by 2050, with some studies even calling for 2040. 

Wealthy nations, such as Australia, should achieve net-zero CO₂ emissions earlier than the global average based on their higher historical emissions.

We now need new international cooperation and agreements to stop expansion of fossil fuels globally and for governments to strengthen their national climate pledges under the Paris Agreements ratcheting mechanism. Promises of carbon dioxide removals via land cannot justify delays in these necessary actions.

Read more: https://theconversation.com/no-more-excuses-restoring-nature-is-not-a-silver-bullet-for-global-warming-we-must-cut-emissions-outright-186048

I’m afraid I’ve got news for you University of Melbourne academics. The Paris Agreement is dead in every way which matters. Germany and the rest of Europe are frantically scrabbling for as much coal power as they can get their hands on.

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Tom Halla
July 4, 2022 10:07 am

And the Chinese and Indians were never even promising to reduce their emissions, so anything any other country did would be pure virtue signaling.

Mr.
Reply to  Tom Halla
July 4, 2022 10:16 am

How dare you! . . .

Point out realities.

Reply to  Tom Halla
July 4, 2022 10:21 am

China, India, Russia and every undeveloped nation in the world.

Rocketscientist
Reply to  Tom Halla
July 4, 2022 11:58 am

What virtues are they signaling. I never considered idiocy and petulance to be virtues,

Reply to  Tom Halla
July 4, 2022 12:20 pm

Actually both have promised to reduce their emissions, a long time from now. Political promises of course.

Ed Reid
Reply to  David Wojick
July 4, 2022 12:55 pm

However, both are rapidly increasing their emissions.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  David Wojick
July 5, 2022 4:19 am

Actually I think China agreed to stop increasing their emissions by 2030. They may have subsequently made MORE “empty promises,” but that’s only to encourage the ‘west’ to continue its economic suicide while they laugh at us behind our backs.

Alexander Vissers
Reply to  Tom Halla
July 4, 2022 2:05 pm

And some 120 other states only want their Paris Agreement climate money. Meanwhile some Australians are now nostalgic about the drought. If CO2 emissions are to be reduced significantly we definitely need better options than the ones on offer right now. The odds that the Kate Dooley and Zebedde Nichols’ projections are reliable are negligable.

Mr.
Reply to  Alexander Vissers
July 4, 2022 2:45 pm

Australia – when your yard is 2 foot deep in floodwater, you better be preparing for a drought next summer.

That’s the way it’s always been . . .

PCman999
Reply to  Mr.
July 4, 2022 5:15 pm

Yup. Build those dams – call them pumped storage to get them approved. Put some wind turbines on top for decoration.

Drake
Reply to  PCman999
July 5, 2022 6:37 pm

Now that’s the way to work the system!

JohnB
Reply to  Mr.
July 8, 2022 7:23 am

Australia – If it’s not on fire it’s because it’s underwater.

David Bunney
Reply to  Tom Halla
July 5, 2022 12:17 am

Worse. Any reductions in use of fossil fuels directly correlates with loss of GDP, economic and military power and reduction in the standard of living of citizens

Andy Pattullo
July 4, 2022 10:08 am

It would be great to live in a world where so-called experts are forced to back up their advice to governments and voters about important issues with evidence substantiating their conclusions and, failing to do so, forfeit their positions, income, access to media and the trust of the people.

Ron Long
Reply to  Andy Pattullo
July 4, 2022 10:26 am

You mean, lead by example? Waiting….waiting……waiting………..

Joao Martins
Reply to  Andy Pattullo
July 4, 2022 11:29 am

It would be great to live in a world where so-called experts would be real experts: inquisitive, with sound culture, humble towards their ignorance of other fields of knowledge, respectful of the real experts of other fields of knowledge, having an unprejudiced approach to science completely independent of their beliefs and agendas, … (and a rather long “etc.”).

Retired_Engineer_Jim
Reply to  Joao Martins
July 4, 2022 1:32 pm

So all other scientists should be respectful of Climate Scientists?

Joao Martins
Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
July 5, 2022 3:53 am

Yes! …

…if the so-called “climate scientists” are real scientists!…

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Joao Martins
July 5, 2022 4:39 am

BIG ‘IF!’

MarkW
Reply to  Joao Martins
July 4, 2022 1:54 pm

We are. Unfortunately no climate scientists qualify as real scientists, since they have abandoned all the principles of science.

CD in Wisconsin
Reply to  Andy Pattullo
July 4, 2022 11:37 am

“Restoring degraded environments, such as by planting trees, is often touted as a solution to the climate crisis. But our new research shows this, while important, is no substitute for preventing fossil fuel emissions to limit global warming. “

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Dear University of Melbourne:

Congratulations! You have been selected to participate in a program designed to fight global warming in Australia. Please be aware that you will be taken off of the nation’s electric grid in about six months. Between now and then, we will assist you in transitioning your school to run exclusively on solar panels and wind turbines to power your day-to-day operations.

Lead by the researchers at your College of Climate and Energy, we have little doubt that you will be proud to be one of the first academic institutions in Australia to fully engage in the fight against climate change. Once the success of this transition has been confirmed, we will begin transitioning other academic institutions in Australia to wind and solar as well. In addition, all of your institution’s autos that run on petrol or diesel will be replaced with electric vehicles.

Again, congratulations for being selected for this very important program!

Signed,
Prince Charles

Mr.
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
July 4, 2022 1:29 pm

It’s amusing that Brits call someone who is a gormless dullard a “Charlie”.
QEII was certainly prescient when she named her first born.

another ian
Reply to  Mr.
July 4, 2022 10:28 pm

Way back in BC there was a BBC program called “My Word” that was re-broadcast on Oz ABC.

One session was built around “Charlie is my darling” with the exception noted that “In the case of Lady Diana Spencer it was “My darling is a charlie”

PCman999
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
July 4, 2022 5:27 pm

Hope Chuck will be paying for that.

PCman999
Reply to  Andy Pattullo
July 4, 2022 5:26 pm

Hey, I hope we do get 2°C of warming – that would be a good start, shame they are saying it will take almost a century.

I’m in Canada, by the way.

Rick W Kargaard
Reply to  PCman999
July 4, 2022 6:17 pm

Me too. And I would consider that a rather modest wish.

Surrr
Reply to  Andy Pattullo
July 4, 2022 7:20 pm

Yes, Timmy Flano should be sued for his idiotic predictions of climate doom during the last drought” even if it rains it won’t be enough to fill our dams and rivers” and because of that dud prediction, governments state, federal didn’t bother building any dams. Stupid Gillard payed Timmy $180 000 a year for 5 years, we should be demanding he pay all the money back for his voodoo climate predictions.

Peter K
Reply to  Surrr
July 4, 2022 10:04 pm

I have a feeling that Tim has been given a job, by the new elected Labour government as it has reinstated the “Department of Climate Change”. Former prime minister Tony Abbott sent, Tim and his department packing. The cat is back.

JohnB
Reply to  Surrr
July 8, 2022 7:30 am

It’s actually a bit worse than that. Because we haven’t built any more dams and the constant warnings that there won’t be any rain what dams we have are kept too full. This drastically reduces their ability to mitigate floods. It increases flooding because the dams fill and then there has to be an emergency release of water to save the walls from collapse. This usually happens at the height of the flood downstream.

Drake
Reply to  Andy Pattullo
July 5, 2022 6:38 pm

And don’t forget their government pensions.

July 4, 2022 10:18 am

These people are, in my opinion, evil. By calling for an end to the expansion of fossil fuels globally, they are calling for the world’s poorest people to have no hope of a better life or an increase in their life expectancy.

PCman999
Reply to  DocBud
July 4, 2022 5:29 pm

Bingo – closet racists. Hate the brown, the black and the yellow? Force them away from reliable, efficient energy, to wind and solar. But the people of the rest of the world are to smart for the Green Neo-Neo-Nazis.

Ron
Reply to  DocBud
July 4, 2022 5:46 pm

“they (the Catholic Church et al.) are calling for the world’s poorest people to have no hope of a better life or an increase in their life expectancy.”
Cause that’s what Jesus would have done.

July 4, 2022 10:19 am

I want to thank the author for so many good articles here — he is a writing machine interested in many different subjects. I don’t care what academics think but as someone from Michigan USA who will never get to Australia I have to ask:

Starting with World War II, just when did Australia drift so far off the track to where it is now (energy policy)?

I mean, your nation has lots of coal and uranium, but seems determined not to use them … using no uranium for electric power, and also being the world’s largest coal exporter. What sense does that make?

If you mine coal, ship it to China, and they burn it,
the CO2 emissions are the same as if you burned it yourself.

Scissor
Reply to  Richard Greene
July 4, 2022 10:28 am

Worse actually.

PCman999
Reply to  Scissor
July 4, 2022 5:30 pm

Yup, pollution controls are so fussy!

Drake
Reply to  PCman999
July 5, 2022 6:43 pm

And the added cost of the CO2 to ship it to China.

fretslider
Reply to  Richard Greene
July 4, 2022 10:44 am

Think of the money….

Mr.
Reply to  Richard Greene
July 4, 2022 12:13 pm

In my observation, Oz lost the plot in 2007 when voters were sucked in to the “presidential” style of electing media-favourite candidates for office like Kevin Rudd.

The fundamentals of sound policies to steer the nation’s economy were ignored in favor of “progressive” engineering of social behavior by government fiat.

Without fawning media treatment as if he was some kind of Hollywood celebrity on a promo visit to Australia, Rudd and his “boy band” of oh-so-progressive advisors would have sunk into the obscurity they deserved.

And it’s all been downhill since then, with politicians more concerned about their “likes” than working for the good of the nation.

And virtue-signaling “compassion” for the treatment of fringe sections of the population (ye shall know them all by the acronyms they go by).
Bugger the 90% of the population who do all the work, pay all the taxes, mind their own business – there’s no accolades from the media for politicians who champion this section of the citizenry, let’s treat them with disdain and instead worship all those 0.005% of the population groups.

Lrp
Reply to  Mr.
July 4, 2022 1:00 pm

It’s worse than that I’m afraid. Only 50% are net tax payers, that is contributing more than what they take back. Oversized public service with duplications from council to federal level. Rorts and highly paid make work schemes everywhere.

Mr.
Reply to  Lrp
July 4, 2022 1:59 pm

Yes, one actual example I was gobsmacked by a few years ago –
I had demanded our local shire mayor explain what a “General Manager – Sustainability” did.
So she arranged an appointment for me to meet with this bloke.
What it boiled down to was that this bloke spent his time preparing reports to support applications for grants from the Federal Gov to count emissions throughout the shire (ie – CO2), and then implement the “remedies” that the Fed dept had scripted for all industry sectors.

Oh, and administer the local tip (strictly a desk job).

So, what we had was ratepayer revenue (property taxes) being soaked up to get $$$s from the Feb Gov that taxpayers had already provided.

As a ratepayer, you were paying a portion of your rates (property tax) for the property tax collector (shire) to act as an agent to petition the Fed income & consumption tax collector, to whom you had already paid tax, to please reimburse some of your $$$s to the local yokels so they could implore local businesses to spend some of their $$$s on reducing an airborne trace gas that nobody could see, feel or smell.

Meanwhile, the potholes just kept getting bigger and more prolific . . .

Tombstone Gabby
Reply to  Mr.
July 5, 2022 11:50 am

Oh, and administer the local tip (strictly a desk job).”

For those not familiar with a “tip” – its a garbage dump, land fill.

ex-KaliforniaKook
Reply to  Tombstone Gabby
July 5, 2022 2:32 pm

Thank you. I had no idea what that meant.

Drake
Reply to  Eric Worrall
July 5, 2022 7:00 pm

Of course, you ARE a monarchy.

The US was close to getting back to that system until Obama beat Hilbillary in the Democrat primary.

Think Bush I, Clinton I, Bush II, then Clinton II, but instead Obama, then it would have been Clinton II but for TRUMP!

With Clinton II, then Obama II with Michelle the US would officially be down the drain.

Tom
Reply to  Richard Greene
July 4, 2022 4:53 pm

The transition must have been sometime after the late ’80s. I, too, am from Michigan and am a retired automotive engineer. In the late ’80s Australia built a nuclear powerplant out in some outback area with large bauxite deposits. The power was used to manufacture aluminum, which requires lots of electrical power. This allowed Australia to become a major exporter of aluminum brake parts.

Nuclear power is now a no-no to the Warmists.

Tombstone Gabby
Reply to  Tom
July 5, 2022 11:57 am

G’Day Tom

“In the late ’80s Australia built a nuclear powerplant out in some outback area with large bauxite deposits.”

Couldn’t find it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_Australia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bauxite_mining_in_Australia

Citizen Smith
July 4, 2022 10:21 am

These are not smart people. If I went on a 3 day holiday, I wouldn’t trust them to feed my cat.

Scissor
Reply to  Citizen Smith
July 4, 2022 10:54 am

It wouldn’t matter if they were in charge. First, they wouldn’t let you go on holiday. Second, you couldn’t own a cat; too big a carbon footprint and all.

Call me a skeptic
Reply to  Scissor
July 4, 2022 12:11 pm

Please stop feeding the narrative. It’s CO2 footprint these idiots are concerned about. Stupid is as stupid does. If they are so concerned with CO2 emissions that are man made, my advice to them is stop breathing. That way you can really make a statement.

Mr.
July 4, 2022 10:27 am

Sitting at a desktop computer, playing with made-up numbers in spreadsheet scenarios about politicians’ bullshit “pledges” has exactly what connection with the atomic chemistry and meteorological physics that are needed to explain climate functioning.

Deep down, these academics must despise themselves for indulging in this blatant fraud.

fretslider
July 4, 2022 10:29 am

At best it’s a misanthropic rant, you can sense the self-loathing.

The University of Melbourne… bring your own straight jacket.

Disputin
Reply to  fretslider
July 4, 2022 11:10 am

Strait jacket.

Mr.
Reply to  Disputin
July 4, 2022 12:16 pm

I think Fretslider meant a jacket that isn’t festooned with sequins and other baubles.

Stephen Skinner
July 4, 2022 10:33 am

“Virtue is more to be feared than vice, because its excesses are not subject to the regulation of conscience” – Adam Smith

OweninGA
Reply to  Stephen Skinner
July 4, 2022 12:15 pm

I always liked this one by CS Lewis:

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

Seems to fit most of the monsters calling for the death of three-quarters of the human population for the sin of living with fossil fuel energy. Of course part of the problem is most of them are not smart enough to understand that those deaths would be the direct and unavoidable result of their utopian policies being implemented.

MarkH
Reply to  OweninGA
July 4, 2022 6:48 pm

The second part of that quote is also fitting, and important:

…They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be “cured” against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.

H B
July 4, 2022 10:34 am

The conversation that hosts their profiles is 5 goosesteps to the left of Stalin

Dave Fair
Reply to  H B
July 4, 2022 11:27 am

He is a climate modeler and she dicks around with forests and indigenous people. And I should take advice from them for fundamentally altering our society, economy and energy systems?

Stephen Skinner
Reply to  Dave Fair
July 5, 2022 10:51 am

I’m indigenous to the British Isles. As was Newcomen, Trevithick, Watt, Stevenson, Boyle, Arkwright, John Harrison, Faraday, Tommy Flowers, Frank Whittle, Joseph Lister, Rutherford, Adam Smith, Newton, Maxwell, Charles Parsons, Henry Bessemer, Rutherford, Shakespeare, Pepys, Dickens (better and more readable than Marx), Berners-Lee, John Wycliffe, Purcell, Cromwell, Queen Elizabeth I…….

Last edited 1 month ago by Stephen Skinner
Davidf
Reply to  Stephen Skinner
July 6, 2022 4:17 pm

Rutherford was a Kiwi

Pauleta
July 4, 2022 10:42 am

So, now we should take orders from a mere PhD student? Give me a break. Even if he was fully tenured he would still be a clown.

July 4, 2022 10:45 am

They want to shut down fossil fuels and forestry. Great. This makes total sense. Cars will become near worthless without fuel to run them, but house prices will sky rocket since there will be no new houses. But we have the fix! People can buy a car for next to nothing and live in that.

2hotel9
July 4, 2022 10:55 am

Shut off all electricity, gas, running water and sewage to all these greentards everywhere. Force them to live what they claim to want for everyone else.

Trying to Play Nice
July 4, 2022 10:55 am

#fjb and while you’re at it, #fAussieClimateScientists

Brian (Western Australia)
Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
July 4, 2022 11:23 am

Anyone else remember this video from 2011? Probably it inspired the career choice these clowns made.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/05/11/what-climate-science-has-come-to-a-rap-music-video-with-expletives/

Rich Lambert
July 4, 2022 10:56 am

I feel sorry for the young people that get drawn into cults such as the college of climate and energy, masquerading as scholarship.

Shoki Kaneda
July 4, 2022 11:02 am

My research indicates that Australian Saltwater Crocodiles are on the verge of starvation. We are willing to make sacrifices to avert this existential disaster. Sacrificing these two is an excellent start.

Mr.
Reply to  Shoki Kaneda
July 4, 2022 12:49 pm

Crocs are known to eat their own.
As are leftists.

Shoki Kaneda
July 4, 2022 11:08 am

Sound judgement != (intelligence OR education)

Carlo, Monte
July 4, 2022 11:10 am

Sack them all for being stooopid.

Vuk
July 4, 2022 11:17 am

In London they are at it again
Just Stop Oil protesters glue themselves to Constable masterpiece The Hay WainActivists attach their own image of ‘apocalyptic vision of the future’ to famous painting at London’s National Gallery
comment image

Reply to  Vuk
July 4, 2022 11:51 am

Let them stand there forever.

Scissor
Reply to  Curious George
July 4, 2022 12:19 pm

In a couple of days they’ll be begging for mercy.

Just out of reach, put up a folding chair, pull out a large veggie pizza, bottle of water and after eating a piece or two ask if they would like a bite.

PCman999
Reply to  Scissor
July 4, 2022 5:35 pm

Just constantly play the sound of running water…

Retired_Engineer_Jim
Reply to  Curious George
July 4, 2022 1:38 pm

They appear to be seated.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Vuk
July 4, 2022 1:30 pm

Once again, they glued themselves to the frame not the painting.

Perhaps a little glue on their lips and noses would be appropriate, you know, no exhaling of CO2 that way.

huls
July 4, 2022 11:23 am

Djeez louise. There is no compliance on “Paris” because even if a party does not act on a promise, they still ARE within the bounds of the treaty. Yes doing nothing is a valid option.

Don’t these kids know how to read or just obstinate

Richard Page
Reply to  huls
July 4, 2022 12:22 pm

No they don’t. All they know how to do is throw a temper tantrum or their toys out of the pram when they don’t get what they want. If they ever grow up then they might, just might, have something worth listening to but until then I’m not impressed with such childish behaviour.

Lrp
Reply to  Richard Page
July 4, 2022 1:09 pm

They’ll never grow up. They’ll get well paid government or council jobs and keep on with their activism from inside while buying a house, having kids, getting old.

DMA
July 4, 2022 11:25 am

“We calculated the maximum potential for responsible nature restoration to absorb carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. And we found that, combined with ending deforestation by 2030, this could reduce global warming 0.18°C by 2100.” I tried to repeat their calculations but found no valid relationship between global temperature and atmospheric CO2. I have to call their finding into question as it is apparently based on an an unproven assumption so their conclusions should be ignored by policy makers.

Dave Fair
Reply to  DMA
July 4, 2022 11:33 am

He’s a CliSciFi climate modeler and believes CO2 is the control knob for global temperatures. She plays around with indigenous people, whining about equity, forests and land uses. Neither he nor she exhibits any knowledge of atmospheric physics.

Mason
July 4, 2022 11:31 am

Just one demand is needed, PROVE IT!

Pat from Kerbob
July 4, 2022 11:43 am

There was a nasa/noaa press release a month ago that stated atmospheric co2 topped 421ppm in may, first time in 4 million years.
They also noted ominously that the temps back then were 7F hotter than today, i guess to scare us.

But if it was 7F warmer back then at 421ppm, if co2 controls temp then why is it 7F cooler today?
Shouldn’t it be the same?

Do these people even think about their BS before they say it?

weblink
https://www.noaa.gov/news-release/carbon-dioxide-now-more-than-50-higher-than-pre-industrial-levels

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MarkW
Reply to  Pat from Kerbob
July 4, 2022 2:00 pm

The sad thing is that these scientific illiterates, appear to believe that the only difference between the world of 4 million years ago, and today is the CO2 level.
Perhaps the CO2 levels were up because it was 7 degrees warmer, not the other way around.

OweninGA
Reply to  MarkW
July 4, 2022 4:16 pm

Wasn’t that before the closing of the isthmus of Panama? A direct current between the Pacific and Caribbean/Atlantic might have moved heat around in a completely different pattern. (I always forget the estimated date of the closure of the isthmus, but I seem to remember something about 3 million years ago – I just looked and 3.5 million is the text book estimate though some researcher is claiming 10 million year old South American fossils on the North American side back in 2016, so who knows).

rah
July 4, 2022 11:47 am

Have they turned off the A/C in their homes, offices, and classrooms and use no transportation requiring fossil fuels? Are they eating bugs and no meat? Have they shunned all clothing with synthetics produced using any fossil fuels? Have they figured out a place to buy computers that have not been produced using petroleum products?

When they have, get back to us.

Tombstone Gabby
Reply to  rah
July 6, 2022 6:04 pm

Just a thought. The solvent for the glue that they used, is it a petroleum product?

Patrick Hrushowy
July 4, 2022 11:53 am

The Cult of Climate Change will soldier on regardless of facts and circumstances.

fretslider
July 4, 2022 12:12 pm

Look out Oz

“UK heatwave to smash 41C barrier and unleash astonishing hot weather on Britain in days”

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weather/1635299/uk-heatwave-weather-forecast-latest-met-office-update-july-summer-maps

I’ll believe it when I see it

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Richard Page
Reply to  fretslider
July 4, 2022 12:24 pm

Ah yes, from the office of failed predictions and blatant lies. Haven’t they had enough of being wrong yet?

OweninGA
Reply to  fretslider
July 4, 2022 4:19 pm

That would be a very strong Sahara jet. Usually they just drive upper 30s, but depending on the strength of the pressure cells driving the jet, 40+ is possible. It is still just weather and has likely happened 100s of times in the last 20 millennia.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  fretslider
July 4, 2022 4:23 pm

As you can see from Nullschool, there is a high pressure system over the central U.S., where we are experiencing 100+F temperatures and will continue to do so for about a week or two, maybe more, and there is a high pressure system getting ready to move over Britain and Europe bringing high temperatures with it. It gets hot under high pressure systems in the summer.

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/500hPa/orthographic=-59.76,19.11,264

another ian
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 5, 2022 12:18 am

 It gets hot under high pressure systems in the summer.”

Ah! So that is the real reason that the controllers of electricity grids with W&S contributions get to sweat when they are around?

PCman999
Reply to  fretslider
July 4, 2022 5:40 pm

Sure, global warming that lasts a week, oh my, we’ll all be dead. Or swimming at the beach.

MARTIN BRUMBY
July 4, 2022 12:14 pm

Even the “Professors” at the University of Melbourne are mostly as thick as three bog seats screwed together.

Kate Doolally and Zebedee Knickerless, “Researchers”?

Well, they got their pictures online.
Probably the high point in their unpromising careers.

Richard Page
Reply to  MARTIN BRUMBY
July 4, 2022 12:26 pm

Highly educated, and with all of the skills and abilities to serve fries with the burger that someone competent has made.

Mike Lowe
Reply to  Richard Page
July 4, 2022 12:59 pm

Like our Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern in New Zealand. Expert at wrapping burgers!

July 4, 2022 12:18 pm

Their sponsor is super green: https://www.oneearth.org/
And so is their “College”: https://www.climatecollege.unimelb.edu.au/
I am sure they think the present fossil fuel scramble is a minor temporary setback.
Ho hum.

John K. Sutherland.
July 4, 2022 12:29 pm

Pull the plug on their university.

Paul Hurley (aka PaulH)
Reply to  John K. Sutherland.
July 4, 2022 1:23 pm

…and convert the university buildings into affordable housing.

OweninGA
Reply to  Paul Hurley (aka PaulH)
July 4, 2022 4:21 pm

There is nothing affordable about a university.

Mike Lowe
July 4, 2022 12:46 pm

Climate and Energy College, Melbourne? All funded by the taxpayer yet displaying total ignorance of the facts of climate and energy. Time you both went out and earned an honest living – maybe in a coal mine!

Lrp
July 4, 2022 12:51 pm

Just had a glance at their paper; total rubbish not worth the name research.

July 4, 2022 12:59 pm

To the “learned” academics at the Univ of Melbourne: I should like to point out that 0.18°C just barely passes the JND (just noticeable difference) threshhold. And why should we wreck our economies and lifestyles for that?

John Hultquist
Reply to  Gilbert K. Arnold
July 4, 2022 1:56 pm

 I think there are buildings on the campus that if they went from the roof to the ground floor the temperature would increase by more than 0.18°C.
[I don’t care enough to determine this from thousands of miles away, but they can grab a thermometer, put on their sandals, and climb a few stairs.]

Pflashgordon
July 4, 2022 1:21 pm

Look up her “credentials.” She’s about as dumb as she looks. Degrees in general topics. Writes political papers. Doe not publish any scientific research. Works at a pseudo-college. The kid who is her sidekick looks like he’s barely out of diapers.

Today, anyone at any college or university can write just about anything and get it published. This pure lunatic fringe opinion piece is not worth wasting our brain cells over. Move on, nothing to see here.

John Hultquist
July 4, 2022 1:33 pm

“Wealthy nations, such as . . .”
Name a major nation that is not deep in debt?

Kate & Zebedee should read Aesop’s Fable #87 – “The Goose that Laid the Golden Eggs” or learn the difference between “wealth” and work, innovation, and opportunity.

gbaikie
July 4, 2022 1:44 pm

“Aussie climate academics demanding better international compliance with their diktats.
Well, diktats are, in the best light, poor misinformed servants.

Philip
July 4, 2022 2:00 pm

If the CAGW agenda wasn’t so completely detrimental to the welfare of your normal everyday citizen, if I had my way, I’d shove that agenda so far down the activists throats that they’d make up the homeless population. Including the creep politicians playing middleman to this nonsense. Unfortunately, give or take, fifty plus percent of the electorate seem to re-elect these politicians over and over again while demanding ever more nonsense regulation.
So, at this point I’m just kicking back waiting for the big burn off of national economies as western countries suicide themselves on woke b.s….

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Alexander Vissers
July 4, 2022 2:09 pm

Advise for policy makers has become the centre of “science” whereas real science has no advise for policy makers, it has only thesis and tests.

Danley Wolfe
July 4, 2022 2:12 pm

None of this talking will budge the needle one bit. Unless someone of you would suggest to start a real revolution. Maybe needed. People wear their teeshirts of climate support but are incapable of really understanding let alone discussing the basis and limits of our understanding and what is possible.

Stephen Mueller
July 4, 2022 2:20 pm

There not academics , academics can read.

Old Cocky
July 4, 2022 2:42 pm

It’s a funny old world, innit?

We exceeded our CO2 reduction targets under Kyoto. We are tracking to meet our Paris targets, despite being denied the offsets due from Kyoto.

But somehow we aren’t serious about meeting our Paris targets.

I think they’re trying to say that our Paris targets weren’t as ambitious as they would like.

Michael in Dublin
July 4, 2022 2:54 pm

As soon as these academics can prove a certain level of CO2 is too much for plants and trees with experiments in greenhouse environments and that our atmosphere contains anywhere near those levels, I would be prepared to listen to their arguments about reduction. They would also have to show in another set of experiments that there in no natural response to raised CO2 levels in the atmosphere that reduces heating.

Michael ElliottMichael Elliott
Reply to  Michael in Dublin
July 4, 2022 3:25 pm

Last night I bought up The Great Global Warming Swindle.

While it’s all about the promise Warming, & not the present easier to sell Climate Change, in my opinion it’s still well worth viewing.

That doco. ssould have been enough to have Killed all this rubbish, but of course the likes of the UN’s IPCC simply ignored it.

While it’s a bit hard on the Ukrains people, we should say thank you to Mr. Putin.

He has woken up Europe’s leaders from their Green Dream.

Michael. Vk5ELL

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Michael in Dublin
July 5, 2022 8:47 am

Which they can’t because levels way beyond current atmospheric levels are used in greenhouses and are 100% beneficial.

Zane
July 4, 2022 3:13 pm

Those two don’t look old enough to know anything about anything.

Peter Qualey
July 4, 2022 3:36 pm

Stand your ground. Go on strike until you get your way!

Chris Nisbet
July 4, 2022 4:12 pm

Is it feasible that FF were responsible for 86% of all CO2 emissions in the last decade (as claimed above), but that the sizeable drop in emissions that must have occurred due to the ruinous lockdowns inflicted on the people of the world, didn’t register in the Mauna Loa observations?

Alasdair
July 4, 2022 4:12 pm

How on earth can these two Melbourne Academics publish the nonsense below with a clear conscience?

“The priority remains rapidly phasing out fossil fuels, which have contributed 86% of all CO₂ emissions in the past decade. Deforestation must also end, with land use, deforestation and forest degradation contributing 11% of global emissions.”

The image below gives the ACTUAL contributions to emissions from various sources. Make of it what you will; but for me the enclosed mindset of Academia these days comes over as a dangerously stuck gramophone record.

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n.n
Reply to  Alasdair
July 4, 2022 4:21 pm

A fraction of a fraction with net greening and probable net zero warming effect.

Chris Hanley
Reply to  Alasdair
July 4, 2022 5:18 pm

That sentence is badly worded, what I take it they mean is 86% and 11% of the increase in CO2 concentration is due to those factors.
As a non-scientist I can think of another source viz. out-gassing of CO2 from the oceans as temperatures increase whatever the cause(s), there are probably other non-human-related sources.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Chris Hanley
July 5, 2022 8:54 am

Still bullshit. The assertion that human fossil fuel use is the reason for rising atmospheric levels is based on the scientific incompetence of directly comparing dodgy proxy data to modern atmospheric measurements taken in real time like they are the same thing.

If the Mauna Loa measurements from inception to date were on the same time scale and treated the same way as the ice core “data ” they would constitute about 1-3 data points. All of which they would throw out for being “outliers.”

another ian
Reply to  Alasdair
July 5, 2022 12:30 am

There is a saying here that

“You can tell a Victorian but you can’t tell them very much”

Olen
July 4, 2022 4:28 pm

Many Universities require their academics to work outside academia at times. They are after all preparing students to earn a living outside academia.

John in Oz
July 4, 2022 4:32 pm

Restoring degraded environments, such as by planting trees, is often touted as a solution to the climate crisis. But our new research shows this, while important, is no substitute for preventing fossil fuel emissions to limit global warming. 

Al Gorebull and the many others using ‘offsets’ to justify their profligate lifestyles will have to find another way to fleece the sheeple.

July 4, 2022 5:32 pm

Mark Twain pointed out that experts have a near perfect record when forecasting the future 500 years from now. It is tomorrow they have trouble with.

July 4, 2022 5:36 pm

There was a time when the king would simply hang the complaining climate scientists from their thumbs until the rest of the word complied with their demands.

It didn’t help compliance but it sure stopped further complaints. Ah, for the good old days.

RevJay4
July 4, 2022 5:43 pm

Are they stamping their feet and screaming yet? Silly ass liberal aussies academics. Nutjobs.

Surrr
July 4, 2022 7:12 pm

Coal fired power stations by country.
China 1,110
India288
UnitedStates240
Japan91
Indonesia84
Russia72
Germany63
Poland44
Turkey34
Vietnam26
Czechia24
Philippines24
South Korea23
Why aren’t all you climate change alarmists protesting against China?

Mike
July 4, 2022 8:36 pm

Sorry I couldn’t read the whole thing but this…… ”Aussie climate academics” ..Is comedy gold!

Martin
July 4, 2022 8:56 pm

Just plain hubris to think they can predict what will happen in 78 years when they can’t even predict the next 2.

David Bunney - Meteorologist, Energy Specialist
July 5, 2022 12:31 am

How can anyone claim to know enough about the Earth systems to forecast climate? The effects of increasing CO2 are so small as to be swamped by so many other factors. The claim that historical climates were always cooler, always stable, better for life and never varied dramatically is also nonsense. The use of energy dense and controllable fossil fuels and nuclear is what enables modern high energy, petrochemical dominated society. It is a cause for celebration. As a trained meteorologist of the early 90s and person working then on complex IT systems and then electricity power system control architectures, markets and utilities regulation in Europe, I’d like to call out the whole green cabal as not using science to study the earth, not using engineering and economics to deliver the best most effective and economic energy systems but rather worshipping a climate cult and going after the money and praise that comes with it. Worse as most people point out is that the promoters of an alternative no energy, no petrochemical future are the biggest hypocrites. It’s time this show ended I’m afraid.

observa
July 5, 2022 5:37 am

And why didn’t you pair of climate changers demand the wind and solar generators crank up their cheap power for the AEMO on behalf of power consumers?
Households to pay $1.5 billion in compensation to power plants (msn.com)

matt
July 5, 2022 10:34 am

“Aussie Intellectual” is an oxymoron

Mike gilding
July 5, 2022 1:36 pm

What happened to the concept of ‘evidence’ at Melbourne Kindergarten?

gowest
July 5, 2022 9:55 pm

Planting trees wont do enough. Cutting timber down (forestry) and replacing our firetrap “parks” with managed timber would do the job easily and stop the fire contribution to the carbon emissions the eastern states of Australia seem expert at! Come back to us with your demands when you can manage your own government emissions…

Barry James
July 7, 2022 1:22 am

Confirmation of what I’ve been saying for years. Marxism has successfully corrupted the education of our youth. These two are living proof of that corruption. But don’t dare to suggest that they have been deceived by their professors before them.

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