Claim: Climate Science can Change Minds, but Skeptics Undo Progress

Essay by Eric Worrall

According to Associate Professor Thomas Wood, the impact of climate education is so fragile, exposure to climate skeptic voices rapidly undoes progress in changing minds and attitudes.

Jun 20, 2022

Science coverage of climate change can change minds – briefly

Accurate beliefs fade quickly, especially if challenged

Jeff Grabmeier Ohio State News grabmeier.1@osu.edu

Science reporting on climate change does lead Americans to adopt more accurate beliefs and support government action on the issue – but these gains are fragile, a new study suggests.

Researchers found that these accurate beliefs fade quickly and can erode when people are exposed to coverage skeptical of climate change.

“It is not the case that the American public does not respond to scientifically informed reporting when they are exposed to it,” said Thomas Wood, associate professor of political science at The Ohio State University.

“But even factually accurate science reporting recedes from people’s frame of reference very quickly.”

The study will be published June 24, 2022, in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. Wood conducted the study with Brendan Nyhan of Dartmouth College and Ethan Porter of George Washington University.

Results showed that accurate science reporting didn’t persuade only Democrats – Republicans and people who initially rejected human-caused climate change also had their opinions shifted by reading accurate articles.

Wood said it was significant that accurate reporting had positive effects on all groups, including Republicans and those who originally rejected climate change.  But it was even more encouraging that it affected attitudes.

But the positive effects on people’s beliefs were short-lived, results showed.  These effects largely disappeared in later waves of the study.

In addition, opinion stories that were skeptical of the scientific consensus on climate change reversed the accuracy gains generated by science coverage.

Read more: https://news.osu.edu/science-coverage-of-climate-change-can-change-minds–briefly/

Poor climate scientists, if only all the climate skeptics were silenced, they could persuade all the Republicans to join their crusade to slay the carbon demon. Or something like that.

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jeff corbin
June 21, 2022 12:10 pm

Earth.Org. Facts of Climate Change

Some us like myself are too dumb to be indoctrinated by a bunch of brute facts. Their imprint is lost in a mess of confusing dumb questions and totally emotional responses. Shame on me!!! LOL

We Are Certain We Caused It. (Including me in your “we” is slander!)
 
Scientists agree (they always nail it right!… the needle of futility of 2021-2022)
 
The Last Decade Was the Hottest in 125,000 Years. (Need to go back much farther)
 
The Ocean Absorbs Most of the Heat We Produce. (Very convenient!)
 
CO2 Is At Its Highest in 2 Million Years. ( a tiny bit more of a tiny thing couldn’t be a bad thing?)
 
We Are Losing 1.2 trillion Tons of Ice Each Year. (How much are we gaining?)
 
Air pollution Is Both Good and Bad. (I am confused? Being fogged by DDT while riding might bike was good and bad…. at least it was fun but it was pollution just ask the raptors. If there is good pollution I’d love to witness it)
 
Attribution Is Now Possible (Extreme Weather) (who knewCo2 is the only variable in weather, I thought the oceans absorbed the heat?)  Global Warming Is (Partially) Reversible (This is old fashion terminology but I wouldn’t mind it being a bit warmer.)  We Lost 302.4 billion Work Hours to Excessive Heat In 2019 (prior to the pandemic we needed an excuse.) It Could Become Too Hot to Live in Many Places By the End of the Century (Hotter than Phoenix Arizona? Opportunity Knocks) The Cost of Inaction is Higher Than the Opposite (how much and how long….(I wonder how soon Europe , Texas and California will be reaping the benefits of their actions.)

Insufficiently Sensitive
June 21, 2022 12:11 pm

Science reporting on climate change does lead Americans to adopt more accurate beliefs and support government action on the issue 

OK, smart guy. Where’s your data supporting ‘more accurate beliefs’? Or is that just your code for ‘influenced by government propaganda’?

Some of those ‘skeptics’ do have supporting data. Clever tactic to ignore that, but it’s not what you’d call truth-seeking, either.

June 21, 2022 12:22 pm

I highly doubt that Grabmeier’s beliefs are so inaccurate that he comes to believe is own BS.

Old Man Winter
June 21, 2022 12:43 pm

Most people don’t do well in math & science which are quite theoretical & as such, spend the rest of
their lives avoiding them. They focus on real things like finding a job & hobbies they like as well as
spending time with friends & families. Their focus narrows to real things that directly affect them as
that’s all they have time for & can get emotionally attached to.

They’ll notice losing a job, prices rising & when items are out of stock. They’d only notice climate
change if temps rose/fell 5-10F- something they could actually sense vs some complicated
hypothetical concept they probably couldn’t understand if they wanted to. They’re too busy living
their own lives to really care about it but may parrot the dogma to “fit in”.

Terry
June 21, 2022 12:52 pm

Funny how folks, upon hearing that this greenie talking to them wants to destroy their standard of living react badly.

CD in Wisconsin
June 21, 2022 12:56 pm

Results showed that accurate science reporting reading the cult’s indoctrinating materials didn’t persuade only Democrats – Republicans and people who initially rejected human-caused climate change the cult’s belief system also had their opinions shifted became true believers in the cult by reading accurate articles the cult’s materials.”

The people behind this paper really need a good proofreader to correct the errors before publishing.

Who decides what “accurate” science reporting and “accurate” articles are?

Ian Johnson
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
June 21, 2022 2:20 pm

Facebook factcheckers.

Ian Johnson
Reply to  Ian Johnson
June 21, 2022 2:21 pm

Facebook “Factcheckers”

Drake
Reply to  Ian Johnson
June 21, 2022 4:01 pm

Such a great comment, you had to post it twice!!!

Ian Johnson
Reply to  Drake
June 22, 2022 4:32 am

I couldn’t delete the first one.

June 21, 2022 1:25 pm

Rational reality beats junk-science propaganda..

Who knew !

MGC
Reply to  b.nice
June 21, 2022 5:28 pm

“junk-science propaganda” = so-called “skeptical” talking points.

6CA7
June 21, 2022 1:38 pm

In other words their case is so weak that it evaporates when challenged by knowledgeable skeptics like the early morning dew evaporates from the heat of the morning sun.

markl
June 21, 2022 1:48 pm

“Political scientist” is an oxymoron.

TonyL
Reply to  markl
June 21, 2022 3:15 pm

That is a scientific truth right there.

niceguy
Reply to  markl
June 22, 2022 4:09 pm

Also a moron

Ed Zuiderwijk
June 21, 2022 2:06 pm

Exposure to climate skeptics voices rapidly undoes …. indoctrination and conditioning.

Of course it does. It has to do with intelligence And many more people than the learned professor thinks are not stupid.

6CA7
June 21, 2022 2:14 pm

Right now the daily jump in energy prices and associated inflation is undoing the climate indoctrination faster than any skeptical argument.

It’s easy to be ambivilent about AGW or pay lip service to it when it’s theoretical or affects someone else, but when it starts taking food out of your children and grand children’s mouths it’s not so easy.

niceguy
June 21, 2022 2:22 pm

Almost…….. they nearly got the solution but no

selfhatingirish
June 21, 2022 2:48 pm

The idea that ordinary people can’t disagree with the drivers of climate change is like saying ordinary people can’t discuss price rises because they’re not economists, or they can’t debate religion because they’re not the pope!
It’s just a way to protect the emperor bereft of clothes.

MGC
Reply to  selfhatingirish
June 21, 2022 5:34 pm

The idea of “ordinary people disagreeing with the drivers of climate change” is like saying “ordinary people disagreeing with evolution” or “ordinary people disagreeing with the big bang theory”.

Drake
Reply to  MGC
June 21, 2022 7:32 pm

As to evolution, please point to what Darwin said MUST exist to verify his theory of human evolution, the MISSING LINK. BTW I noticed you didn’t call it a theory, so you think it is fact?

Also, how wrong has Hubbell shown many Big Bang theory predictions to be?

Yep, me, ordinary person, but not a liberal ordinary person.

MGC
Reply to  Drake
June 21, 2022 8:09 pm

Drake, thanks for demonstrating that you apparently don’t understand what the word “theory” means within the scientific lexicon. Comparing fact to theory is a logical category error.

And Hubble has found nothing, nothing whatever, that puts the big bang theory into question.

And really? That tired old, long refuted “missing link” so-called “objection”?

Yep, you, an ordinary person, demonstrating that really you don’t know what you are talking about, yet imagining otherwise.

Reply to  MGC
June 22, 2022 8:24 am

One does not need to be a zoologist to tell the difference between an elephant and a groundhog. Climate science is about as scientific as political science. It’s a watermelon.

MGC
Reply to  Slowroll
June 22, 2022 9:34 am

re: “One does not need to be a zoologist to tell the difference between an elephant and a groundhog.”

And yet so-called “skeptics” routinely demonstrate that they are profoundly unable to do so.

June 21, 2022 2:50 pm

A political “scientist” who thinks his expertise extends to the actual physical sciences, who’d a thought. By what rational thought process does professor Wood recognize “accurate articles?” Is Professor Wood aware of the Texas Sharpshooter fallacy? Are his “accurate articles” only accurate in the Texas Sharpshooter sense? Has he dared venture onto some of the skeptic sites to actually sample the skeptic arguments and put his towering intellect to the task of debating the skeptic?

June 21, 2022 2:57 pm

Researchers found that these accurate beliefs fade quickly and can erode when people are exposed to coverage skeptical of climate change facts.

Fixed it.

ray g
June 21, 2022 3:03 pm

People come from all over the globe to attend a flat earth convention.Fancy that.

H.R.
Reply to  ray g
June 21, 2022 7:08 pm

ray g: People come from all over the globe the 4 corners of the Earth to attend a flat earth convention.”

[grin] jus’ messin’ wid ya, ray. Couldn’t pass it up.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  ray g
June 23, 2022 3:41 am

I think they call those conventions “COP something-or-other,” don’t they?

June 21, 2022 3:18 pm

Control the information available for people to reach a conclusion and you control the people.
Just as an example: https://www.foxnews.com/media/kamala-harris-white-house-task-force-online-gendered-disinformation-abuse
(I don’t mean to focus on that particular issue. But it an very recent example of what Big Government does and the need for the 1st Amendment, one of the limits on Government that is being ignored.)

June 21, 2022 3:56 pm

He keeps using those words, “science reporting.” I don’t think they mean what he thinks they mean.

June 21, 2022 4:00 pm

Funny, he talks about science reporting. Then he says, “but even factually accurate science reporting”, inadvertently admitting that much or most “science reporting” in NOT factually accurate.

Call me a skeptic
Reply to  Pflashgordon
June 21, 2022 4:42 pm

I thought the climate fraudsters already told us it was too late to save the planet…..but that was before they moved the goal posts…
again. I am rooting for a little ice age so we can finally make these fraudsters go away. Impossible to reason with illogical people.

Philo
June 21, 2022 5:13 pm

Associate Professor Thomas Wood- I REALLY need to see the actual data you are talking about. There is SO MUCH information in the information emobodied in the climate that I think it is impossible to make accurate predictions. Consider that the weather starts when one drop of rain hits a placid area in the waves. That drop can transfer enough energy and rotation to trigger a hurricane.

Facts such as that make if very hard to believe that many “truths” can be spoken about the climate. Almost all the research papers I’ve looked at contradict many other papers in various ways. Picking and choosing a few papers that coordinate with each other, lending some emphasis of the information is making truths by manipulation

yours truly:

June 21, 2022 5:39 pm

Undo Progress? To what end, and by what means? “Progressives” seem to work on the assumption that whatever they are progressing to is better than where we are now, and that there is no alternative direction that we could “progress” in that might be better, and that progressing towards their goal is justified by ANY means. They charge forward, demolishing Chesterton’s Fences as they go with, optimistically, no knowledge or regard for the damage they are doing. The alternative is that they know full well the damage they are doing and do it anyway. This applies far more broadly than to just climate science, but it is indicative of the corruption of the field, actual science involves the pursuit of truth, not of “progress”. Progress, in whatever direction, is a political goal, not a scientific goal. Science could be used to inform this, but using science to pursue progress corrupts science. An activist cannot be a scientist, by being an activist they are unable to dispassionately evaluate the data.

June 21, 2022 5:47 pm

In my view it’s climate scientists themselves that make us skeptical.

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Bob Close
Reply to  Joe Born
June 21, 2022 9:17 pm

I agree Joe, the AGW version of climate science is so full of holes it is now leaking like a sieve, and forty years of failed catastrophic predictions is starting to sound like religion’s second coming.
Here is a list of scientific “facts” that confound the AGW hypothesis.

• Arrhenius’s calculations were wrong and his conjecture about the greenhouse process is flawed: CO2 only plays a marginal role in the climate system, due to its IR absorbing saturation levels at low <300ppm CO2;
• Henry’s law, dictates CO2 follows temperature and not the other way round, effect cannot precede cause, therefore the AGW theory is based on an erroneous causation;
• Anthropic CO2 is a tiny 6% of the overall atmospheric CO2 concentration as most of the increase has come from natural processes, i.e., plants, volcanoes and the out-gassing of oceans due to increase of temperature; the residency time in the atmosphere of each CO2 molecule is less than six years;
• 99.96% of the CO2 ever present in the atmosphere has been removed by various natural processes (mainly weathering) over geological times, then sequestered in ocean carbonate sediments and organic fossil fuels; 
• Anthropogenic global warming has been proved to be a minor effect, the longer-term climate risk is the lack of sufficient CO2 to support and enhance all life on Earth, therefore emissions growth is positive for humanity;
• Atmospheric sensitivity to CO2 is greatly exaggerated by IPCC and may be <1, the role of water vapor is underestimated and clouds have an overall negative feedback, so runaway global warming is impossible;
• The Greenhouse effect (absorption of IR radiations by some gases) is badly defined and intentionally kept confusing; however, a doubling of CO2 from 410ppmv should result in a temperature increase of only 0.35°C (after 100yr), because the warming capability of CO2 is now so close to saturation;
• In climate models, CO2 related GHG warming is enhanced by water vapor the main player, but water -resists modeling and entails that climate cannot yet be forecast beyond what meteorology achieves, i.e., 15 days; 
• IPCC GCM’s are not validated and have no true predictive value because they do not hindcast well, they assume high ECS, ignore negative feedbacks such as clouds and dismiss natural climate variability;
• Many of the world’s surface temperature datasets are locally affected by the urban heat island effect or corrupted by inappropriate homogenisation techniques designed to show human related global warming;
• Rising CO2 is beneficial for plant and crop growth and human sustainability. Record harvests in Australia and worldwide plus forest growth testifies to improved photosynthesis and plant fertilisation;
• Progressive acidification of open oceans is a myth; they have always been alkaline;
• Sea Level changes measured since 1907 show no acceleration (1mm y-1) and are unrelated to CO2 levels; 
• Solar and Earth orbital variations are among the main factors that drive long and short-term climate change, including the seasons, hydrological cycle, storms, oceanic oscillations and the Ice Ages;
• Solar flux changes during weak magnetic cycles cause stronger cosmic ray bombardment and ionized particles forming water droplets and cooling cloud development, thus negating AGW in the atmosphere;  
• Plate tectonics and gravity changes impact climate through mountain building, continent and ocean realignment, changing wind and currents that redistribute heat and water vapour from the tropics towards the poles;
• Natural oceanic oscillations ENSO (El Niño – La Niña), AMO, NAO, PDO are much more relevant to modern climate than AGW. High-capacity ocean heat and CO2 sinks act to moderate atmospheric effects and climate;
•The globe’s hydrologic cycle is a key factor regulating daily weather and short-term climate; the stronger the hydrologic cycle, the more ocean heating, surface evaporation, cloud development and cooling occurs; ,                                                                                                                                                        • Major volcanic eruptions can be globally disruptive and cause local cooling by sulphureous emissions and ejecta, they also emit considerable CO2 but are largely dismissed in GCM’s;
• Increased atmospheric CO2 can be seen as a good thing from both environmental and ecological aspects, as life and civilization generally speaking flourishes in warmer, CO2 enriched and wetter conditions;
• There is no convincing relationship between modern warming and increases in extreme weather events;
No empirical evidence exists to support the assertion that a planetary warming of 2°C would be net ecologically or economically damaging. In contrast, moderate warming is likely to be beneficial to humanity;
Many diseases that thrive during cold conditions, e.g., influenza and other respiratory afflictions like Covid, will be reduced by a warmer environment;
Forward projections of solar cyclicity and other climate variables such as AMO and PDO imply the next few decades may be marked by global cooling rather than warming, despite continuing CO2 emissions and higher CO2 levels.

rah
June 21, 2022 7:09 pm

And this despite their tremendous investment of taxpayer dollars in “Climate Communications”.

Rod Evans
June 21, 2022 10:38 pm

Quote “In addition, opinion stories that were skeptical of the scientific consensus on climate change reversed the accuracy gains generated by science coverage”

Anyone who weaves, ‘scientific consensus’ into a sentence about science, does not understand basic scientific principles.
Who ever would have thought sceptical views can lead to people questioning the science?….

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Rod Evans
June 23, 2022 3:53 am

Your lasting should read “questioning the propaganda” – they have no science to back up their “crisis” claims.

June 22, 2022 5:59 am

“The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded.

Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.” Dwight Eisenhower

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Billyjack
June 23, 2022 3:53 am

The man was a prophet, wasn’t he?!