Australia Becoming Unlivable–BBC


By Paul Homewood

This may come as news to the Aussies!

Perhaps somebody should have told their 19th ancestors!

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Tom Halla
May 24, 2022 2:04 pm

I subscribe to several English news sites, and they report 25C as a heat wave.

Reply to  Tom Halla
May 24, 2022 4:25 pm

25C is just a pleasant temperature where I live, if there is a fresh breeze you may need a light sweater but generally that is the best time of year.

Reply to  Tom Halla
May 24, 2022 11:35 pm

Anything over 15C is a heatwave in the UK

Anything over 5C is beach weather

Reply to  Tom Halla
May 25, 2022 1:54 am

21C in Scotland!

Bill Toland
Reply to  griff
May 25, 2022 3:52 am

Griff, it hasn’t reached anywhere near that temperature where I live in Scotland this year.

Bill Toland
Reply to  griff
May 25, 2022 4:10 am

Griff, I have just checked the BBC weather forecast for Scotland for today. The highest temperature expected is 16C in one location.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Bill Toland
May 25, 2022 1:47 pm

I’m instantly reminded of the cartoon (probably Josh’s) with the “scientist” holding a lighter flame under the thermometer bulb.

peter jones
Reply to  AGW is Not Science
May 27, 2022 2:17 am

You will note that the scientist looks MANN-ly.

Reply to  griff
May 25, 2022 4:05 pm

Highest temp in Scotland over the last several weeks was less than 18C.

Perhaps you didn’t realize the discussion is about outside temps, not indoor. (Sarc)

If you must stoop to outright lies, then clearly there is nowhere in the world to point to and say, “Look. manmade climate change.”

Reply to  Jtom
May 25, 2022 8:34 pm

Wait up, Jtom. I have this little box on the wall in about the middle of my house that I can use to set the climate in my house to whatever I want. You probably have one of those little boxes on the wall, too.

I think griff gets frustrated because griff’s mom has a totally different idea of the ideal climate, so griff has to either freeze or fry in the basement according to Mom-griffs whims.

That really cheeses griff off. “M-o-o-o-m!! Turn down the heat!”

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jeff corbin
Reply to  Tom Halla
May 25, 2022 5:42 am

Late Spring earlier Summer…. why is this news?

Richard Page
Reply to  Tom Halla
May 25, 2022 6:27 am

Yup, it’s bollux. Used to be that we’d be issued guidance on heat related problems when temperatures were expected to be over 35C in the UK, which was fair enough for a population unused to temperatures like that. However, in recent years, the WMO and Met Office have been busy moving the goalposts to make things far more scary and doom-laden. The threshold for dangerous ‘heatwave’ conditions have been set for 25C in Scotland, 26C in Yorkshire, 27C in Lincolnshire and 28C for London and the Southern counties. It’s politically motivated ‘rule by fear’ tactics that have absolutely nothing to do with how temperatures affect people, which was the original, and logical, approach.

R Terrell
Reply to  Richard Page
May 29, 2022 2:43 pm

Here in central Illinois, 28C (82.4 F) is a nice, warm spring day! If you want HOT, wait until late July to mid-August, when we typically get some 36C to 39C days! Contrary to the mass-hysteria folks, not very many people actually DIE then! Programs are in place to keep the elderly cool. The rest of us either crank the thermostat (that little box on the wall) up a few notches or turn on some more fans. As a boy in West Texas I often saw 43C days! We survived, even though few, if anyone, had air conditioning! We didn’t!

May 24, 2022 2:06 pm

This incessant rain on the east coast (La Nina) is causing grass to grow too quickly, and moss to grow on footpaths.. in country NSW !

I guess that weather becoming like in the UK , would make it “unlivable” 😉

So , nope, its not the climate that will make Australia unlivable..

Its the Green agenda destroying our once solid electrical supply system, and generally turning the place in to a woke leftist totalitarian hole that will make Australia unlivable.

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another ian
Reply to  b.nice
May 24, 2022 5:00 pm

Another entry for

“Bullshit in the Sustainability and Transitions Literature: A Provocation”

Reply to  b.nice
May 25, 2022 3:17 am

yes, today ABC ran bulldust re the UNreliable coal power plants going off line being the problem
yeah well without maintenance and some new ones thats to be expected..theyve done their damndest to make repairs renewals impossible to do

Gary Pearse
Reply to  b.nice
May 25, 2022 11:36 am

Once the pioneers have cleared and built to a certain level of comfort and prosperity, then the woke move in like the spruce budworm.

Paul S
May 24, 2022 2:06 pm

When they phase out fossil fuels and survive on unrealiables at exorbitant prices, it will surely be unliveable.

Reply to  Paul S
May 24, 2022 8:49 pm

Economic vandalism.

jeffery p
May 24, 2022 2:08 pm

Politically unlivable, like California?

jeffery p
May 24, 2022 2:12 pm

Perhaps somebody should have told their 19th ancestors!

19th Century?

Reply to  jeffery p
May 24, 2022 4:04 pm

Yes jeffery, the most dominant years are 18xx. It’s indeed the 19th century and a few years from the 18th century. The most impressive thing is that these occurrences were before the so called “greenhouse gases from fossil fuels burn” increase in the atmosphere. How is it possible to have natural catastrophes then????? 🙂

Reply to  J N
May 24, 2022 5:12 pm

Jeffrey was trying to correct the sentence: “Perhaps somebody should have told their 19th ancestors!”

Rich Davis
Reply to  J N
May 24, 2022 5:20 pm

I think he knows what the 19th Century means. The article is missing the word “century” which made me scratch my head as well. 19 generations of Oz? Fast breeders down under.

May 24, 2022 2:19 pm

“Sam Bowstead is an architect who specialises in preparing houses to withstand natural disasters.” So he built his home raised above known floodwaters. That doesn’t sound “unliveable”.

Reply to  markl
May 24, 2022 7:46 pm

Hubris to think nature will conform to human expectations.

May 24, 2022 3:07 pm

Much of continental Australia would be regarded as “unliveable”.

Particularly by people who have only known life in an inner-city conclave where an “emergency” is when the summer temperature hovers around 30C for an hour or so.

Some years ago now I was in London in July when the temp reached 32C one fine sunny day.
Shoulda seen those poms walking around the streets as if they were about to melt into the pavement!


Reply to  Mr.
May 24, 2022 3:37 pm

You were in London, you sure they were Poms?

Reply to  Beagle
May 24, 2022 3:49 pm

No, not that sure.
Many of them were done up like Lawrence of Arabia.
They must have read the BBC’s weather forecast for that day?

Iain Russell
Reply to  Beagle
May 24, 2022 5:33 pm

Shoulda bin in Birmingham, WRT in action!!

Izaak Walton
Reply to  Beagle
May 24, 2022 7:00 pm

It is always good to see the racists out in force on this blog.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
May 24, 2022 9:10 pm

You get your kicks in strange ways, Izaak.

What’s good about seeing racists, wherever you look for them?

Reply to  Izaak Walton
May 24, 2022 11:41 pm

How do you know, Beagle didn’t mean tourists, Izaak? London is well known for tourism across the world.

What you read into his comment reflects you, not Beagle.

BTW, you seem to lack a sense of humour

Izaak Walton
Reply to  Redge
May 25, 2022 12:12 am

Well what do you make of the replies such as “done up like Lawrence of Arabia” and “shoulda bin in Birmingham” then? All clearly anti-muslim in tone. As was Beagle’s original post.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
May 25, 2022 12:47 am

Izaak, you responded to Beagle with your original comment.

“done up like Lawrence of Arabia”, there are lots of Middle Eastern tourists in London.

Again, you formed your own interpretation of what the OPs were saying and responded to your own interpretation. Why not ask them what they meant?

You’re doing something that many ill-informed people do when commenting on 70s UK sitcoms where there is apparent racism. They assume the 70s sitcom is racist whereas it’s quite the opposite.

As an example, Rising Damp featured a character called Rigsby who was a landlord letting out rooms to the three other main characters, one of whom was black.

Rigsby was without doubt a racist. He was also ill-educated, awkward, ugly, a poor speaker and disliked by everyone.

The black character on the other hand was very well educated, elegant, handsome, a great orator and loved by everyone, especially Rigsby’s love of his life (who loathed him).

Sitcoms of the 70s were the antithesis of racism, but these days, those who have never seen the programmes believe the tripe they read on Farcebook.

Just a point, I think racism in all forms is disgusting and unnecessary. There is only one race, the human race.

Old Cocky
Reply to  Redge
May 25, 2022 1:21 am

Yes, 1970s British sitcoms such as Til Death Us Do Part and Love Thy Neighbour were making fun of the racists (both sides for the latter show), but a lot of people didn’t seem to twig to that.

R Terrell
Reply to  Old Cocky
May 29, 2022 2:59 pm

I used to watch All in the Family, which I believe was a spin-off from some British show, and Archie Bunker came across as a dyed-in-the-wool racist and bigot, but he, too, was making fun of the racist’s. But many people actually believed he WAS a racist. As it turns out,, the actor who played the part of Archie is a liberal Leftist. As some else has noted, Leftist’s AND liberals (is there really a difference?) see racism everywhere they look.

R Terrell
Reply to  Redge
May 29, 2022 2:53 pm

MANY people (TOO many?) believe the tripe they read on Facebook, as well as much of what they read on Twitter, AND in the newspapers! Also, not to be left out, even MOST of what we see and read on TV is tripe, as well!

Reply to  Izaak Walton
May 25, 2022 10:55 am

Er Izaak – Lawrence of Arabia was a Pom!

What was Muslim about him? Do enlighten us please.

Colonel Thomas Edward Lawrence was a British archaeologist, army officer, diplomat, and writer, who became renowned for his role in the Arab Revolt and the Sinai and Palestine Campaign against the Ottoman Empire during the First World War.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
May 25, 2022 6:59 pm

Nothing anti-muslim there..

Seems you see racism everywhere.. just like all leftists.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
May 25, 2022 6:58 pm

The ONLY person seeing racism here is you Izaac

That is because racism is “built-in” to leftists. It is part of who they are.

Reply to  Mr.
May 24, 2022 3:50 pm

I must have been there at the same time. I discovered that the Victoria and Albert Museum doesn’t have air conditioning.

Old Man Winter
Reply to  Scissor
May 24, 2022 5:00 pm

I’m betting you weren’t amused, either! 😮

Reply to  Mr.
May 24, 2022 5:27 pm

I remember visiting Scotland around 1998-99 in May. They were having a heatwave at the time. The locals were sweating, but we idiot tourists misunderstood the weatherman’s heatwave. So we were wearing shorts and t-shirts, while the locals were layered in clothing that ended with tweed jackets for the most part. I remember several wait staffers pointing out that we Americans were not doing our part – had not signed Kyoto Agreement.

The high for the two weeks we were there was 68F (20C)! Believe it or not, we Americans were too polite to recommend they remove a jacket – and lend it to us!

I kid you not. Mix a high of 68 with a constantly blowing wind will chill you after a while.

Al Tinfoil
Reply to  ex-KaliforniaKook
May 24, 2022 8:46 pm

“The coldest winter I ever spent was the summer I spent in Scotland.”

Reply to  Al Tinfoil
May 24, 2022 10:17 pm

I wonder if it was as cold as Seattle was in the summer for Mark Twain?

Reply to  .KcTaz
May 24, 2022 11:26 pm

Or as cold as San Francisco was for Frank Sinatra?

R Terrell
Reply to  Mr.
May 29, 2022 3:06 pm

Having spent many days in San Francisco, I can attest to the fact that it gets COLD there, even in the Summer time! I would leave Vallejo in the morning, wearing a warm jacket, with the heater on in my car and by the time I reached SF I’d have the AC on taken my jacket off. But, by the time I returned to the Naval Base that evening I had the heater on again! Crazy place. Much, MUCH different from Southern California!

Chris Hanley
May 24, 2022 3:17 pm

The BBC article is the same old doom-laden palaver, flipping through the BoM ‘Australian climate variability & change – Time series graphs’ shows a very variable climate with no outstanding rainfall trends over the entire period (1900 – 2021) nor for the IPCC’s period of overwhelming human influence 1950 – 2021.
Data before 1900 is not available.
The ‘Climate Valuation’ map that purports to predict unaffordable insurance costs due to floods is ironically a product of the Climate Council a private setup headed by Tim Flannery who only fifteen years ago was predicting “even the rain that falls isn’t actually going to fill our dams and our river systems“; just as well their ‘Climate Valuation Report’ carries the rider: “No forecast or prediction: the models do not purport to generate, nor do the Modelling Outputs comprise, statements of fact, forecasts or predictions …”.

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Reply to  Chris Hanley
May 24, 2022 3:54 pm

Well at least they now put a small-print disclaimer on their bumpf.
(still no confidence parameters though)

Back in the day, snake oil vendors didn’t have to qualify any of their bumpf.

R Terrell
Reply to  Mr.
May 29, 2022 3:08 pm

Neither do the climate ‘bumpfers’ these days!

Michael in Dublin
Reply to  Chris Hanley
May 24, 2022 4:41 pm

Data may not be available before 1900 but a close examination of historical records and journals will give an interesting peek into the flood/drought pattern that has been noticed since the first Europeans landed down under.

another ian
Reply to  Chris Hanley
May 24, 2022 5:13 pm

Geoff Pickup (CSIRO Alice Springs) used to talk of the evidence of paleo-floods in inland Australia.

The 2012 flood in our creek is likely the highest seen since European settlement. Our homestead is built on a sand ridge alongside the creek – which is likely where the sand came from. It would need about another metre of water to get from the 2012 level to under the house.

This would put floodwater out east of the creek – not seen by Europeans so far

Reply to  Chris Hanley
May 24, 2022 10:23 pm

Perhaps they’ve read or, listened to Warren Buffet who is, also, in the Insurance Industy?

“I love apocalyptic predictions” on climate change, Buffett told CNBC on Monday, because they probably do affect rates.
But right now, he said, “The rates have come down very significantly, so we’re not writing much, if anything, in the U.S.”

May 24, 2022 3:21 pm

It will be the alarmist politicians that make it unlivable if they get their way.

May 24, 2022 3:25 pm

Good news. That means the Poms can stay where they are and freeze.

May 24, 2022 3:34 pm

While the climate isn’t having much effect beyond the ‘droughts and flooding rains’ (mentioned in McKellar’s epic poem, ‘I love a sunburnt country’ we did just smack down a supposedly conservative govt that was moving left, limited only by the lefty party and greens who are hard left, CCP-admiring, communist-dreaming socialists.

Even worse, in 2 different State elections, Western Australia and South Australia, the Liberals (as our conservatives are called) got handed a thorough drubbing by the left because they also had been sliding left. Apparently Aussies want the conservatives to offer conservative choices. e.g. the Federal govt decided to ALSO go for net-zero, just later than the lefty mob – and this is in spite of the fact that every time Australians had a choice about anything to do with climate change or carbon taxes, we’d smacked those proposing it.

Like sane people everywhere, we’d be worried if the climate was suddenly doing something abnormal but we ain’t gonna pay yet more taxes to an already over-stuffed bureaucracy who seem all to willing to hand us over to the UN.

So Scumo (Scott Morrison) and his mates got solidly beaten by Al bin Sleazy (Albanese) and his commies. Al bin Sleazy did a pee-pads Biden campaign – avoided public exposure (particularly after several truly cringe responses to things he SHOULD have known) walking away from questions and being as invisible as he could be.

So yes, Australia is about to become truly unlivable, even more so than we have become under the horrific mismanagement we have seen since we let the Liberals govt commit a coup against our last actual conservative PM, Tony Abbott. One of the only pollies, like him or hate him, who said what he would do if elected and then proceeded to DO it.

That’s very rare in a pollie!

These people are on record for wanting Australia to be much closer with the CCP, so I’m looking for a decent language course to learn Chinese here – any recommendations?

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Reply to  MarkMcD
May 24, 2022 10:33 pm

I did have a neighbor who met his now wife on-line in China when he wanted to learn Chinese. The Moderator of the site originally refused to let her teach him. He said it was either her or, he’d go to a different company. He learned Chinese and got a lovely wife and both now live happily in the USA and have two children. I love stories with happy endings.
I do not know the name of the company, though.

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Reply to  .KcTaz
May 28, 2022 4:35 pm

Back in the early noughties I went around the world. In the process I found:

10% of people are angels – if they were not around the WORLD would be unliveable!
10% of people are a-holes – if they weren’t around the world would be a far better place!
80% range between those 2 extremes.

AND, importantly, you can find ALL those percentages in each person you meet. (with the likely exception of politicians, lawyers Religious leaders and banksters)

May 24, 2022 3:56 pm

Australia became much more unlivable due to the totalitarian lockdowns during the “pandemic”. Sad to see a once free country wither into compliance and subjugation.

Reply to  Gyan1
May 24, 2022 4:29 pm

Most of us living in regional areas or on the outskirts of the major cities were not impacted that much unless you had to visit one of the woke organizations like the health service or a school. Very sad that so many people went mad over a chest cold.

Reply to  OldGreyGuy
May 24, 2022 8:52 pm

I live in coastal country NSW Mid Coast and the pandemic restrictions impacted but I was still able to drive around the district and mostly live my normal lifestyle, travelling not included.

Reply to  OldGreyGuy
May 25, 2022 10:23 am

We had an Aussie house sitter who wasn’t allowed to see her elderly mother and could only go outside for groceries nearby.

Reply to  Gyan1
May 24, 2022 8:57 pm

The lockdowns, restrictions, vaccine mandates were State by State based on State Parliament emergency powers legislation.

Victoria was the worst place to be, especially capital city Melbourne, Queensland was second worse, interstate border closure management was appalling cruel to people at times blocking them from visiting family for example, mostly the Labor State Governments that used the pandemic for party political purposes to undermine the Federal Government Prime Minister and Cabinet for State areas of responsibility and powers: State Health, State Police enforcement, State Courts of Law, State emergency powers.

May 24, 2022 3:59 pm

It always impresses me the lack of the most simple historical investigation of these occurrences… nice catch Paul.

May 24, 2022 4:21 pm

It is not the weather type climate, it is the political climate.
As usual, the “journalist” reporters on the story got some of the words right but missed the substance of the story. The result was a garbled mess.

Here is the political climate and why Aus. is becoming unlivable.
In the US we have a democratic constitutional republic.
Aus. And N.Z. started with what you could call democratic republics.
Both morphed over time into democratic socialism.
Both seem to be in a race to democratic dictatorship.
We no from history that the half-life of a democratic dictatorship is very short. Once formed, they quickly decay into a full dictatorship which is stable and refractory against further change.
N.Z. under Prime Minister Ardern may already be there.

In countries around the world, the government response to COVID was most illuminating.
Check Questions:
1) were the Govt. responses heavy handed orders handed down without regard to established process?
2) Responses have no scientific basis?
3) Responses useless in controlling the outbreak?
4) Responses did more harm than good?

If your country was YES on #1, then the more YES on the rest, the worse you were.

Izaac Walton
Reply to  TonyL
May 24, 2022 4:40 pm

There is zero probability that either NZ or Australia are decaying into a full dictatorship. Does anybody real think that in there will not be another election in either country held according to their respective constitution? Or that either of their prime ministers will not step down quietly if they lose the election (unlike in the US).

And as for responses to COVID it is worth noting that NZ had fewer excess deaths over the last 2 years compared to previous years. So not only did its response control the outbreak it reduced the spread of many other diseases.

Reply to  Izaac Walton
May 24, 2022 4:53 pm

Ah the government of NZ saved it’s people …and Australia didn’t 😉

Reply to  Izaac Walton
May 24, 2022 6:04 pm

Izaac Walton makes good points, certainly worth debating.

step down quietly if they lose the election (unlike in the US).
Well, this one does sound like an uncalled for slur against the US. (“Never Trumper”, perhaps?)

Both Aus. and N.Z. could reverse course according to elections and constitutional imperatives. But so far, that path remains untested.
We shall see.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  TonyL
May 24, 2022 7:24 pm

Australia reversed course on Saturday after 9 years of a liberal government. I would suggest that you give the incoming government more than a few days before claiming that they are unlikely to hold another election in 3 years time.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
May 24, 2022 9:03 pm

It’s most likely, consider the net zero by 2030, mandated EV by 2030 and ban on ICEV, hidden carbon tax on coal mines and others, and more economic vandalism planned, as voters did within a couple of years after Labor formed Federal Government in 2007, there will be widespread anger and frustration. As soon after the election of Whitlam Labor in 1972, and after the Hawke Labor Government did a reasonably good job the Keating Labor Government upset voters and got thrown out in 1996, went close in 1993.

It’s in the Union DNA, and already financial journalists are criticising the new Treasurer’s naive comments.

Labor formed government on preferences after receiving an historic low primary vote.

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Izaak Walton
Reply to  Dennis
May 24, 2022 9:13 pm

you are missing the point. The original post by Tony suggested that NZ and Australia are headed towards a “full dictatorship”. This is however complete nonsense. Whether or not you like the policies of the Labor party in Australia or Labour party in NZ suggesting that the countries are in danger of becoming dictatorships shows a complete ignorance of both countries and their political traditions.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
May 25, 2022 2:15 am

Really Izaak! You, accusing Dennis of missing the point?

Reply to  Izaak Walton
May 25, 2022 7:03 pm

“after 9 years of a liberal government.”


Since Tony Abbott was knifed, Australia has had left leaning governments.

Climate believer
Reply to  Izaac Walton
May 25, 2022 1:30 am

“So not only did its response control the outbreak it reduced the spread of many other diseases.”

Lockdowns don’t work because as soon as you lift restrictions the virus comes rolling in, as is happening now.

They haven’t controlled anything, in fact they have made things worse in the long run, secondary effects of their draconian policy is soaring crime in city centres.

Reply to  TonyL
May 24, 2022 9:22 pm

Congratulations, you win the award for the strangest and most ridiculous comment on the internet for today.
NZ is not and never has been lead by a dictator.
The NZ Govt managed the pandemic better than most because they made the hard calls early on. Unlike the US who fluffed and faffed around and now have the highest death toll on the planet.
If you want to see a potential dictator, look no further than the direction Trump was taking the US. Even when he is voted out he behaves like a dictator refusing to accept the result.

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Reply to  Simon
May 24, 2022 10:42 pm

I’d argue with you but you’re a Liberal (Democrat/Left) and your mind is made up and no amount of facts will change it, so I won’t bother to disturb you. In case you’re not from the US or don’t follow the polls, Biden is at somewhere around 33% approval.

Reply to  .KcTaz
May 24, 2022 10:58 pm

I’d argue with you but you’re a Liberal (Democrat/Left) and your mind is made up …”
In other words you know nothing of the NZ political situation so you think it best to be quiet. Smart.
Re Biden, yep he’s struggling. But I see the latest polls have the Dems lifting after the Roe v Wade supreme court thing. Interesting.

Richard Page
Reply to  Simon
May 25, 2022 4:11 am

The rating for the Democrats overall may be increasing but Biden’s approval ratings keep dropping – they’ve just dropped again in the last day or so and are now way below that of any other US President since they started using approval ratings – even Carter and Trump got higher approval ratings than Biden. Struggling is not the word to use – bombing, tanking, in freefall or plunging into the abyss – those would be far more appropriate.

Reply to  Richard Page
May 25, 2022 12:18 pm

I’ve already agreed with the Biden thing. I’m no fan. He’s too old.

Reply to  Richard Page
May 25, 2022 12:37 pm

And what a sad time we live in when you are saying the present guy is now lower in ratings than the last guy who got record low ratings. I see Trump’s endorsements don’t seem to have the pull they used to either. It really is time for the US to find a younger, newer president.

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Reply to  Simon
May 25, 2022 1:45 pm

I see Trump’s endorsements don’t seem to have the pull they used to either.

93% so far this year would suggest otherwise:

Richard Page
Reply to  Simon
May 25, 2022 2:30 pm

You see the same thing I do and yet jump to a completely different answer. The problem isn’t their age, it’s their competence; just in the last 20 years or so there have been a whole parade of candidates that should never have been considered. The US hasn’t chosen the best person for the job, they’ve had to choose the least worst option – the one they can’t stand but will live with in the vain hope a better candidate comes forward next time. Here in the UK we’re having the exact same problem – we’re faced with a choice between disaster area no.1 or monumental cockup no.2; neither of which, frankly, should’ve been let loose near government. It appears to be an international problem that countries around the world are being governed by the lowest common denominator in society.

Reply to  Richard Page
May 25, 2022 5:37 pm

It appears to be an international problem that countries around the world are being governed by the lowest common denominator in society.”
I think New Zealand has been blessed with good strong leaders for the last 20 years. Adern, Key, Clarke. All good leaders. You don’t have to like their policies, but you can’t deny their strength.

Reply to  Simon
May 25, 2022 3:14 pm

Simple Simon at it again .
Yep Simon lives in New Zealand and loves the Greens and Ardern .
Yes the first wave of Covid we were locked down and only we only had 26 deaths .
Since then we have had over 1000 deaths from Omicron.
The lock down against Omicron did not work and the government abandoned it as they were rapidly loosing support and the general population gave them the finger .
This government would like to become a dictatorship and control every thing and every one .
This government is propped up by the Greens and the Maori parties and they are pushing through legislation which will damage New Zealand in the longer term .
They want to restrict our farming and plant a lot of productive land in Carbon Farming which produces nothing of value ,provides no work except fire fighting and lot of money will flow overseas as carbon credits to overseas owners ,
We are all New Zealanders and we have too much bureaucracy now without forming 5 new WATER entities and a SEPARATE Maori health Authority .
Our hospitals are cannot treat many people at the moment because of a shortage of health workers and beds taken up with covid cases ..

Reply to  Graham
May 25, 2022 5:41 pm

“The lock down against Omicron did not work and the government abandoned it as they were rapidly loosing support and the general population gave them the finger .”
What nonsense. They listened to the science which told them Omicron was not as lethal. They adjusted accordingly. It is what smart people do. They listen to those who know better. Unlike the leader in the US who decided “bleach” should be the order of the day.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  .KcTaz
May 25, 2022 12:14 am

The point is not whether or not Biden wins or loses but whether or not he accepts it or encourages a mob to storm congress to try and stop the results being certified.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Izaak Walton
May 25, 2022 12:15 am

Which no one did.

Reply to  Jeff Alberts
May 25, 2022 12:19 pm

Which no one did.” Oh come on. Do you really believe that?

Reply to  Izaak Walton
May 25, 2022 12:37 am

Storm….hahah. I am still waiting for my police precinct to be rebuilt.

Reply to  .KcTaz
May 25, 2022 4:36 am

Simon is an idiot, you are correct.

Reply to  Simon
May 25, 2022 12:36 am

Hey it’s the Russia Colluuuusion clown. Well done moron.

Reply to  Simon
May 25, 2022 4:57 pm

Lol…Russia colluuuusion…give it up dude. Hillary, Obama and the FBI colluded with Russia. You and your fake news.

You are a moron.

Reply to  Derg
May 25, 2022 5:42 pm

So you have no answer to these allegations except to use infantile insults. Clever….

Reply to  Simon
May 25, 2022 8:16 pm

You are stupid. Russia colluuuusion indeed. I suppose you are like Izaak and believe Benghazi was started by an internet video. You are a clown show.

May 24, 2022 4:37 pm

Just like PDO, AMO or ENSO, there are also political cycles.

Bad times create hard men.
Hard men create good times.
Good times create soft men.
Soft men create bad times.

The stars have aligned ( mainly resource boom ) to create an extended good time which in turn has created a vast amount of soft people,( including ” its not fair” millennials).

We are setting ourselves up very an extended bad time

May 24, 2022 4:42 pm

Becoming? Has been since the tyranny started years ago with covid panic.

Andy Pattullo
May 24, 2022 4:48 pm

Perhaps it is the politics making it unliveable. There is a global trend presently being managed from Davos to make the globe unliveable for bipedal mammals with less than $100 million in th bank. A well intentioned campaign to preserve the natural world for all those elites who know how to properly park a private jet and poor $1000 champaigne without spilling.

May 24, 2022 5:00 pm

There’s nothing to worry about.

We just voted for the Better Weather Government

Reply to  Simonsays
May 24, 2022 5:56 pm

Yes, right after the election, the sun came out and the rain stopped in my little part of Bunbury WA. Coincidence?

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Brian
May 25, 2022 8:27 am

Great. Drought.

May 24, 2022 5:05 pm

Second rate journalists like to make up outlandish stories about places far away. Been that way since printing presses were invented. Reduces non-factuality complaints to the owners…

another ian
Reply to  DMacKenzie
May 24, 2022 5:16 pm

Also written on parchment I think you’ll find

Reply to  DMacKenzie
May 24, 2022 10:48 pm

Yes and it does seem to have long been that way but not just about far away places.
“The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. He who reads nothing will still learn the great facts, and the details are all false.” ~Thomas Jefferson to John Norvell, 1807. ME 11:225

“As for what is not true, you will always find abundance in the newspapers.” Thomas Jefferson to Barnabas Bidwell, 1806. ME 11:118

“Advertisements… contain the only truths to be relied on in a newspaper.” ~Thomas Jefferson to Nathaniel Macon, 1819. ME 15:179

Forrest Gardener
May 24, 2022 5:36 pm

Coming into winter as we are in the southern hemisphere I think Melbourne will definitely be less livable for the next few months. The good news is that we can temporarily join the climate refugees and visit Queensland if it ever stops raining up there.

May 24, 2022 6:09 pm

Oh dear Aunty-
My Country by Dorothea Mackellar – Famous poems, famous poets. – All Poetry
Said Hanrahan [poem by John O’Brien] (
It was an American cartoonist that captured the quintessential Australian laconic attitude before the rise of the urban latte set-
For gorsake, stop laughing – this is serious! [picture] (

Philip Armbruster
Reply to  observa
May 24, 2022 8:02 pm

It will not be long before reality dawns on the new government.
Albanese has said during the election campaign that he supports the coal and gas industries.
If he only said that to get votes and reneges there will be hell to pay.
Already the Labor Government has turned back a Sri Lankan “refugee” boat and the Greens have bitterly condemned them.
It looks like the Labor Party will have a majority so the $200Million spent by Peter Holmes Acourt has been wasted as the ” Teal doctor’s wives” independents will have no power, and will just have to have hissy fits.
The new government will not be able to get much done anyway as the Greens etc have the balance of power in the Senate which needs to pass bills, so Labor will have to rely on the Liberals and Country Party to pass sensible bills.

Reply to  Philip Armbruster
May 24, 2022 9:07 pm

Like Gillard Labor 2010 and thereafter chaos, dysfunction and incompetence with management of Greens referred to being like trying the herd Cats.

Reply to  Philip Armbruster
May 25, 2022 4:20 am

small mercy is our rural areas pretty much stayed with the nats

Mike Maguire
May 24, 2022 8:09 pm

Alarmism NOT science defines most of what we read/hear on this topic:

Here’s another example about Australia (of thousands) totally making shist up to scare people:

Climate Change Could Turn Northern Australia Into a Wasteland

“Research has found that mean annual temperatures above 29°C, currently found in 0.8% of the world and too hot to live in, could affect up to one third of the world’s population by 2070……..
northern Australia would simply become an arid, barren wasteland. Mars on Earth, if you will.”

Seriously? In less than 50 years, up to 1/3 of the planets people will live in places too hot to live in?
The REAL rate of warming is .13/decade. In 5 decades that’s less than 1 degree but somehow, that will lead to the loony statement above?

These are not accidental misstatements. They intentionally, blatantly misrepresent the science to turn everything into scary extremes without authentic science/empiral data to back it up.

Reply to  Mike Maguire
May 24, 2022 9:14 pm

Development of new irrigation farmland requires State by State development approval and support, there is a proposal to add to the existing Ord River WA Irrigation Area land the area of Western Europe to the East through NT and NQ utilising major rivers that during wet seasons of high rainfall every year discharge huge amounts of water out to sea. The Old River catchment is not yet fully utilised and much of the water in that dam is released.

Around 2014 the Abbott Federal Government and the Newman Queensland Government (both Coalition governments) overturned “wild rivers” legislation and UN registration that blocked development of Northern Rivers, no dams and hydro power stations or other harvesting of water. However since then as far as I am aware no progress on the extension to irrigation farm lands has been made.

The potential crop yields would be very well received by our Asia Pacific Region neighbours and other export markets.

Old Cocky
Reply to  Dennis
May 25, 2022 1:30 am

There were major insect pest problems on the Ord early on. I don’t know if these have since been overcome.

Reply to  Mike Maguire
May 24, 2022 9:18 pm

It’s similar to scare statements on the global economy shrinking in one hundred years time because of climate change impacts.

So consider even 3 per cent annual global average economic growth for one hundred years and then reduce it by even 10 per cent. Would that result be a problem?

How about stop spending or squandering taxpayer’s monies on the exercise in futility to apply economic vandalism based solutions to the problem that doesn’t exist and use those monies for the good of people everywhere.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Dennis
May 26, 2022 3:50 am

The irony being that climate POLICIES, as opposed to climate “change,” will do an order of magnitude MORE “shrinking” of the “global economy.”

Their “solution” to the non-crisis is akin to bulldozing your house because you THINK it might need a coat of paint 50 years after you’re dead.

Reply to  Mike Maguire
May 24, 2022 11:00 pm

If 29C is too hot to live in I had best start planning my funeral because it’s already been that hot where I live in AZ. and it will get a lot hotter. I wonder how it is I’ve survived for 22 years of living here?

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  .KcTaz
May 26, 2022 3:53 am

The fine print they’re hiding is that it will BECOME too hot to live in BECAUSE when they implement their plans there will no longer be reliable electricity (read: no a/c).

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Mike Maguire
May 26, 2022 3:43 am

Not only that, but the rise in “average” temperatures is a smokescreen. Most of the increas in the “average” is higher LOW (overnight) temperatures, not an increase in the daytime highs.

Kind of like claiming there will be more fatal car accidents due to higher average speeds because the minimum speeds are higher.

May 24, 2022 8:46 pm

Now in my seventies, all of life I have experienced life in “the land of droughts and flooding rains”, My Country”, “a sunburnt country, and land of sweeping plains, of rugged mountain ranges ……”.

Please explain to the climate change fools that life here is far better than just liveable.

A British friend who I worked with in Australia during the late 1960s and early 1970s, who returned home to live, told me that while in Australia he lived, in England he exists.

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Reply to  Dennis
May 24, 2022 11:02 pm

“Please explain to the climate change fools that life here is far better than just liveable.”
Don’t worry, the Left/Greenies are working hard to make every first world country unlivable and to prevent the 2nd and 3rd world from becoming more livable. Give them time.

James Walter
May 24, 2022 8:56 pm

Well, it is, because of the Green Luddites.

May 24, 2022 9:06 pm

I’m sure there’s a line-up to emigrate to Scotland, to escape unlivable OZ.

Do the shitheads at BBC and other green-rags ever have to listen or read the idiotic manure they wrote?

May 24, 2022 10:11 pm

The report of 1868 reflects my experience since 1962 – droughts and flooding rains. Over and over again.

May 25, 2022 12:01 am

I’m sitting here freezing my arse off in Canberra, the nations capital. Please bring on some more of that global warming goodness. The ‘unliveable’ part is goose green electricity prices expected to go up by yet another 10%-15% at their annual price increase which takes place every July.

Reply to  DPP
May 25, 2022 1:50 am

Pretty similar in good old Manchester (home of Manchester City)….Walking the dog at 9.00am with two jumpers, a fleece and wooly hat and gloves. Our gas/electricity prices due to go up another 40% in October……

May 25, 2022 12:05 am

Yes so true, I was musing about how unlivable things were just last weekend while sitting on the deck at a micro brewery. The beer, pizza and views along a crystal clear green valley had me wondering how i tolerate such conditions.

We are indeed hardy adaptable people us Aussies.

Old Cocky
May 25, 2022 12:21 am

If the snakes, spiders, crocodiles, sharks, box jellyfish, Ivan Milat and drop bears can’t keep them at bay, what chance do a bit of wet weather and a few hot days have?

Ed Zuiderwijk
May 25, 2022 1:26 am

More unliveable? What does that mean?

It’s either unliveable or not, a binary choice.

Richard Page
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
May 25, 2022 4:20 am

It’s written from the point of view of a pampered, overpaid, underworked parasite living in a cold city on the other side of the world with no clue what he’s talking about. To him, every temperature over 25C would be ‘unliveable’ – above that would be more and more unliveable; presumably intimating that the word he is unsuccessfully groping for is actually ‘uncomfortable’.

Reply to  Richard Page
May 25, 2022 10:27 am

To him, every temperature over 25C would be ‘unliveable’

Get back to me when it’s over 40

Richard Page
Reply to  TonyG
May 25, 2022 2:34 pm

No, you get back to me when you’ve read the rest of that sentence.
Basically for ‘unliveable’ read ‘uncomfortable’.

Reply to  Richard Page
May 26, 2022 7:27 am

I was referring to this, Richard: “To him, every temperature over 25C would be ‘unliveable’”

I spent my first 40 years in Southern California where over 40 was a normal summer. I assumed the context where I was responding to the “pampered, overpaid, underworked parasite” was clear, apparently it was not.

Ed Zuiderwijk
May 25, 2022 1:46 am

Dorothy Mackeller.

I love a sunburnt country
A land of sweeping plains
Of ragged mountain ranges
Of droughts and flooding rains.

Written a century ago.

May 25, 2022 1:53 am

Well, much though I hate to agree with anything coming out of the BBC’s orifices, I must admit that, given their covidia and the latest election result, Oz must be getting pretty close to unlivable.

May 25, 2022 2:16 am

A natural signal would be temperature gradients from the cause/source to colder areas. Having higher temperature rises at ground level than where the greenhouse gases are (& further from equator) makes AGW harder to believe.
Also remember that temperature is an indirect measure of energy because it’s dependent on pressure, chemistry & quantity (ie. number of atoms/molecules). Energy movement is affected by temperature differences, tides & wind. Our clouds & climate us affected by sun, moon, planets & cosmic rays.

May 25, 2022 3:14 am

media collusion AND antisocial media f u overbook had a huge part in brainwashing/scaring fools into supporting the greens teals and labor. most are the at homes or well off did Uni types with zero idea of actual facts of the lives of the majority in aus re just getting by.
and they will remain buffered while the average people battle harder to just keep a roof overhead and eat.

May 25, 2022 3:37 am

Who benefits from a weak (“unlivable) Australia? China. All that lovely coal for the taking.

May 25, 2022 7:06 am

According to the climate hysterics, soon the entire continent will be down under (water).

May 25, 2022 7:19 am

Quick tell that to the refugees on boats who risk there life .. two turned back this week.

May 25, 2022 8:35 am

So why not stop the tourism ad budget and tell that industry they need to close? Let’s get real again.

May 25, 2022 5:04 pm

[turns off power, heat, drainage]

“why, this place is unlivable!”

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May 25, 2022 6:20 pm

Hey, for anyone in OZ who wants to escape with their life before they get fried, I’m offering 2¢ on the dollar for your property.

May 25, 2022 9:56 pm

I’m doomed.

Reply to  RoHa
May 26, 2022 8:47 pm

From the day you were born, RoHa.

May 25, 2022 10:19 pm

Sitting on Newcastle beach this afternoon after a glorious swim.

Just don’t know how I managed!

May 26, 2022 11:55 pm

My eldest stepdaughter lives in Sydney, NSW, and I have a brother and sister in law in Queensland. If things were that bad I’m sure they would have mentioned something in last nights family Zoom call.

Simon Morgan
May 27, 2022 2:03 pm

Australia is going to become unliveable because of the stupid climate alarmists, not climate change. When we 40 degree days (we’ve had 40 degree days for time immemorial -it’s nothing new) and the aircon packs up, people are going to be looking to get the next plane out of here.

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