Guest essay by Eric Worrall
h/t Dr. Willie Soon; President Biden’s administration sowing more division and disunity, by demonising political opponents rather than including them in the conversation.
Readout of White House Climate Science Roundtable on Countering “Delayism” and Communicating the Urgency of Climate Action
FEBRUARY 25, 2022•PRESS RELEASES
The White House Office of Science and Technology Policy hosted a 2-hour virtual roundtable yesterday of climate scientists from both natural and social sciences and other experts to discuss the scientific understanding of why arguments for delaying action on climate change are appealing and how they can be countered effectively. The event is the first White House-level convening of experts on the topic of “climate delayism” and its associated planetary, financial, and societal risks and costs. White House leaders and 17 scientists and communications experts from 11 states and the District of Columbia shared insights.
The head of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP) and Deputy Assistant to the President Dr. Alondra Nelson applauded the roundtable participants for providing knowledge which will help to inform and accelerate federal climate action, and cited their work as an example of the value of combining social science with physical science:
“This is deeply important to us, because, as you know, the Biden-Harris Administration’s agenda on climate change is historic. We rejoined the Paris Agreement on Day One, and we’ve been back at the table internationally — leading the world to increase our collective ambition, action, and innovation over the next decade. We’ve also set bold goals for the United States: to cut U.S. emissions in half by the end of the decade, to reach 100% clean electricity by 2035, and to reach net-zero emissions by 2050. And we are making unprecedented investments in clean energy and climate resilience, the largest in U.S. history, to build a better America.
Now, given the realities of climate change and global warming — including the rigor and soundness of the science, and the increasing evidence of its impacts — one could be tempted to ask, “what’s taken so long?” That brings us to another reality, which this group knows better than most: that there have been for decades, and still are, forces arrayed against the cause of climate action — running the gamut from self-interest and short-term thinking, to deliberate disinformation campaigns that are as insidious as they are invidious.”
White House OSTP Deputy Director for Climate and Environment Dr. Jane Lubchenco led the roundtable, with remarks that framed the historical moment:
“While there is broad awareness of the physical science aspects of this climate crisis, attention to the social sciences has lagged behind. And at the same time, powerful vested interests have skillfully manipulated the narrative to prevent or stall action. Our world is a coupled social and environmental system that must be understood and dealt with as an integrated system. Today, we bring this richer, more complete integration of physical and social sciences to the White House. It’s been thirty years since a Republican president signed our nation up to fight climate change. It’s time to understand and fight the delayism that has already cost us so dearly.”
In closing remarks, White House Senior Advisor Neera Tanden said, “It’s clear that a variety of special interests have had a vested interest in sowing doubt on climate change and feeding denialism and delay. We need to confront that reality. However, despite this organized campaign, a strong majority of the country wants climate action because they understand the consequences of inaction.”
Five speakers provided remarks to prompt conversation:
Tony Leiserowitz, Founder and Director of the Yale Program on Climate Communication, Senior Research Scientist at the Yale School of the Environment, started the conversation by sharing data about public perceptions of climate change, how they have changed, and why.
“In 2015, the ‘Alarmed’ and ‘Dismissive’ were tied at about 12 percent each. So for every one American ‘Alarmed’ about climate change, there was one ‘Dismissive.’ But that has changed radically in the last six years. Today, there are more than three ‘Alarmed’ for every one ‘Dismissive’ in the country. And that reflects a fundamental shift in the underlying social, cultural, and political climate of climate change. It’s why we are so achingly close to being able to take national action even though we haven’t gotten there yet.”
Andrea Dutton, Professor of Geoscience from the University of Wisconsin, summarized evidence for some of the risks of delay in light of the predictable impacts of climate change over the next three to five decades, including some less predictable impacts and potential tipping points.
“Sea-level rise threatens the safety and security of the United States. It’s as if we have an army ringing our coastlines, advancing farther each year than the previous year, taking more land as it goes. We would not tolerate that; yet we are allowing sea level to rise unabated. We are already losing infrastructure due to coastal retreat and as sea-level rise accelerates, we risk of multiplying these losses. Social inequities are already arising between coastal communities that afford to adapt and those that cannot.”
Gernot Wagner, New York University Associated Clinical Professor and Clinical Associate Professor of Environmental Studies and Public Service steered the discussion into the very real economic costs associated with delaying climate action.
“From an economic standpoint, it is precisely the risks and uncertainties that increase the urgency for action. What we know for sure is bad, what we don’t is potentially much worse.”
Dan Abbasi, former government and civil society climate communicator, now with Douglass Winthrop Advisors, shared his experiences on effective ways to counter arguments for delay and lessons learned.
“We’re committed to 1 foot of sea level rise by 2050, but we can still stay at the low end of 2 to 7 feet by 2100 if we act. So we need to make that fork in the road more visible and remind Americans of the can-do spirit they have always brought to challenges like this and need to again – from business innovators to citizens holding their elected officials more accountable.”
Marshall Shepherd, University of Georgia Distinguished Professor of Geography and Atmospheric Sciences and past President of American Meteorological Society focused on overcoming arguments for delay through communication with different audiences.
“Doom and gloom solutions do not do well. Most Americans don’t see scientists like us every day – they see the scientists on their TV, their meteorologists, talking about kitchen table issues. We have to remember that good messengers come from inside a community.”
Throughout the two hours, there was a lively discussion among participants. Some additional points included the following:
Katey Walter Anthony, Professor & Aquatic Ecosystem Ecologist, the University of Alaska Fairbanks
“In the Arctic, climate-driven changes include temperature rise at triple the rate of the rest of the planet, wildfires, decline in sea ice extent, loss of glaciers, and widespread warming and thaw of permafrost. These changes come with local costs. Communities must relocate. Roads, pipelines, and trails collapse. Water supplies become uncertain. Fish, wildlife and plants used for food and materials face threats. Ramifications are also planetary. Less snow and ice and higher carbon emissions in the Arctic increase sea levels.”
Kerry Ard, Professor of Environmental & Natural Resource Sociology, Ohio State University
“Climate change has increasingly been pushing people in the poorest and most affected countries towards opportunities in the U.S. and other industrialized countries. The demographic shift has prompted xenophobia and unrest, leaving policymakers to wonder what can be done to aid in an equitable and peaceful transition of receiving communities into healthy, more diverse, forms of themselves?”
Shahzeen Attari, Professor of Environmental and Public Affairs, Indiana University
“Our prior work finds that conservatives and liberals have a shared vision for a decarbonized energy mix for the year 2050, but they do not agree on the policy pathways of getting there. Given these results, we need to identify narratives for climate action and solutions that will appeal to conservatives to foster swift decarbonization today.”
Kim Cobb, Georgia Power Chair & Director, Global Change Program, Georgia Tech
“What are the opportunities, how can we grow our economy, how can we move equitably towards a low-carbon future? These are the kinds of arguments which can gain traction and help Georgians see what’s the risk and what’s the benefit from a Georgia-based perspective.”
Justin Farrell, Professor of Sociology, Yale University
“Research also shows that funding was allocated to create fake “grassroots” organizations– or front groups – staffed with fake experts, again with the intent of promoting doubt about CO2 and increasing global temperatures. Further, fossil fuel corporations and trade associations hired some of the best PR firms to test, tailor and target messaging they knew would be effective in manipulating public opinion related to climate change.”
John E. Fernandez, Professor of Architecture & Director of the MIT Environmental Solutions Initiative
“Targeted delayism downplays health concerns of methane in homes and intends to extend the use of methane through the creation of concern for the viability of alternative low-carbon solutions. Narratives of delayism have taken advantage of this gap in general awareness about the health consequences of household methane emissions and combustion to assert that natural gas is the very best low-carbon alternative currently available. This is not accurate.”
Michel Gelobter, Climate Strategist, Founder & Chairman, Cooler
“Climate is a slow-motion pandemic: The direct impact of climate change is being felt, but as those of us who are deep in the field know, we’re doing a terrible job of surfacing the impacts of how much heat and environmental change we are baking into our social and environmental systems.”
Katharine Hayhoe, Chief Scientist, The Nature Conservancy and Professor, Texas Tech University
“That’s why it’s so encouraging when research provides us with insights on how we can overcome political polarization: by focusing on something that connects us rather than divides us. For example, when we address the challenge of psychological distance by bringing the impacts of climate change near to us in time and space and relevance, people can bond and connect over a shared love of or concern for place, family, or priority.”
Michael Mann, Professor of Atmospheric Science & Director of Earth System Science Center, Pennsylvania State University
“We really are moving away from hard denial. It’s very difficult to deny things that people can see with their own eyes. And so we’ve seen this transition from denial to division, deflection, distraction, delay, and quite important – doom-mongering. We can create a much better world if we act now. There is urgency but there is also agency.”
Naomi Oreskes, Professor of the History of Science & Professor of Earth and Planetary Sciences, Harvard University
“For most ordinary Americans, it’s about the present. It is about what’s happening right here, right now in the U.S. of A. We have concrete scientific evidence that storms, floods, fires that have destroyed people’s homes have been made worse by climate change. I have a slide that is a picture of a terrifying fire that is burning down people’s homes, and the title is three words: Theory Made Real. When I show that slide to my audiences, you can hear a pin drop in the room. People may say, ‘let’s wait and see.’ The truth is, we have waited, and we have seen.”
Veerabhadran “Ram” Ramanathan, Professor of Climate Sciences and Physical Oceanography, Scripps Institution of Oceanography at University of California San Diego
“The dire consequences of unchecked warming are becoming clearer,” said Ramanathan. “Numerous medical academies in the US and worldwide have concluded that climate change poses grave threats to public health. After 40 years in this eco-chamber of restating climate facts, I have concluded we need a different approach. We have to unpack climate change from all the other issues that divide America.”
Jigar Shah, Director, U.S. Department of Energy Loan Programs Office
“We have at our disposal most of the tools and resources we need to meet the Administration’s bold climate agenda while creating good jobs through an equitable energy transition. Doing this will require a laser focus on using those resources and tools to maximize private sector capital formation – both supply and demand. In short, we need to a strong focus on government program execution with the specific goal of private sector capital formation.”
Read more: https://www.whitehouse.gov/ostp/news-updates/2022/02/25/readout-of-white-house-climate-science-roundtable-on-countering-delayism-and-communicating-the-urgency-of-climate-action/
The thing which really strikes me about this meeting is, as far as I can see, none of the participants said anything new. It is all becoming direr and clearer, as always – except that it is not.
From what I can see, no progress was made at this meeting, nothing new happened at this meeting. Just the same tired climate has beens mouthing the same empty formulas many of them have been repeating for the last two decades. As far as I can tell, anyone who might have said something new was not invited.
Update (EW): Fixed a typo in the first paragraph.
I hope the next president has, as one of his campaign promises, that not ONE of these charlatans will set one foot inside the White House during his Administration.
If I was given only a list of the names of the authors of this report, I would wonder if its origins were genuinely from regular US citizens, or from Eastern Europe. Geoff S.
”Prof. Andrea Dutton We would not tolerate that; yet we are allowing sea level to rise unabated.”
I’m beginning to wonder if these academics have become so far removed from reality that they have lost all semblance of rational thought. Has the dear Professor ever flown over the Pacific ocean? Does she understand how big it is? Does she really believe we humans can make a discernable difference?
“Does she really believe we humans can make a discernable difference?”
Good question.
She talks like all we have to do is flip a CO2 switch to cause a change in sea level. A lot of them talk like that. Trump scoffs at that.
Insults, Science; tomayto, tomahto.
Also, give us more money. To save the world, or whatever excuse works.
This meeting was a complete farce, it was not a scientific meeting but a social science meeting. Their was no science presented to support their cause, only whining and crying because not everyone believes them. If you want people to believe what you say you need to show your work. No different than math class in grade and high school, you can’t just write down the answer, you need to show how you got the answer. These people are pathetic.
Social science is about as much science as Freud and Jung. It’s ridiculous!
Except now there is no question about it – we can see it happening. Of course, since the science has been settled for 2 decades, there have been no questions.
And “Gernot Wagner, New York University Associated Clinical Professor and Clinical Associate Professor of Environmental Studies and Public Service”
How can you be an associated clinical professor and a clinical associate professor. Seems redundant.
And what does “clinical” mean in these titles?
This sounds more like a religion than science. I dumped all religion years ago.
I just don’t understand how these people come up with these figures ie
“We’re committed to 1 foot of sea level rise by 2050, but we can still stay at the low end of 2 to 7 feet by 2100 if we act”
Can’t they do basic math ? In my country in a city called Auckland , which sits on the lap of the Pacific Ocean , sea level has risen on average 1.41 mm/yr for 123 years , measured by the most accurate device , tide gauges and it is not the slightest of problems, apart from the City Council wetting themselves over the future sea rise predicted by a bunch of hand wringers in Government who put out statements such as :
“The impacts of climate change are being felt acutely in the Pacific as well as in New Zealand itself. Climate change will be one of the greatest security challenges for New Zealand and the world in the coming decades. The impacts of climate change will continue to test the security and resilience of our community, our national, the South Pacific region and the world.”
Oh my God ! Who knew ? And when does it start ?
So a 1 foot rise by 2050 is OK and expected ? that’s 330 mm and 28 years away . From my math that is approx 12 mm per year sea level rise every year till 2050 !
The last ice age ended approx 11,700 years ago when the sea level was about 120 meters lower than it is now . So over that period the sea level has risen at an average of 10 mm per year . What ? So according to the “experts” the sea level is going to rise faster ,around 15% , than from the end of the last ice age ! Once again “Oh my God ! Who knew ? And when does it start ?”
Especially since the average sea level rise around the earth is between 1.6 and 3mm per annum (satellite) and in many cases it is not increasing at all and in many places it is actually falling .
The time to worry about sea level rise is when celebrities stop buying ocean-front property. They haven’t stopped yet.
“We’re committed to 1 foot of sea level rise by 2050
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Comes to 11 mm/year. When is this miraculous acceleration going to begin to happen? Even the mavens at the Colorado University Sea Level Research Group don’t exaggerate that much.
“ The head of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, Dr. Alondra Nelson (… writes and lectures widely on the intersections of science, technology, medicine, and social inequality. Wiki) applauded the roundtable participants for providing knowledge which will help to inform and accelerate federal climate action, and cited their work as an example of the value of combining social science with physical science:
The problem with this narrative is that climate science, far from being settled, has failed to examine alternative warming scenarios. Effective though social science has been in persuading people that AGW is an existential threat, its practitioners have merely hopped on the bandwagon without checking its road-worthiness. Is CO2 the only cause of warming? One climate scientist has observed that ‘it must be CO2 because we can’t think of anything else.” That’s not science. “We’re happy that CO2 causes warming, but we are always on the look-out for other contributory factors” would be a healthier and more scientific approach.
Shahzeen Attari, Professor of Environmental and Public Affairs, Indiana University studied physics and math at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign, earning her B.S. in Engineering Physics in 2004. Wiki
“Our prior work finds that conservatives and liberals have a shared vision for a decarbonized energy mix for the year 2050, but they do not agree on the policy pathways of getting there. Given these results, we need to identify narratives for climate action and solutions that will appeal to conservatives to foster swift decarbonization today.”
Getting to Net Zero using an approach that won’t crash the economy of the West (in case Professor Attari has failed to notice India, China, S. Korea, Indonesia, Iran, etc are not involved) would attract support from most people on the precautionary principle but that agreement will only last if the science is shown to be the result of scientific procedures. At present we’re at the ‘Galileo should be burnt at the stake because he denies what the Good Book tells us’ stage. We really should be doing better.
I have a slightly tongue in cheek solution to the problem of painlessly getting to Net Zero at TCW Defending Freedom entitled The Sensible Speech on Climate the PM will Never Make
wwwdotconservativewomandotcodotukslashthe-sensible-speech-on-climate-the-pm-will-never-makeslash
IN the post ‘Cold Comfort’ at the same blog there’s a suggestion of what might be a supplementary warming mechanism.
The Big Lie only works for as long as people are not faced with reality. Climate Science is not The Big Lie but it may be The Big Inadequate and Incomplete Truth. The Reality of Power Cuts is soon going to hit the Wind Turbine of Fudge. When it does people like Nelson and Attari will find that their support, and careers, will be on the line.
Go on, have a look at supplementary warming. It’ll cost a few million dollars. It’ll save trillions.
JF
Interesting that Lubchenco is to lead this “discussion group”. She has a few problems with scientific integrity, after her conflict of interest in a fisheries paper caused it to be retracted by PNAS last year.
“After months of public criticism and findings of a conflict of interest, a prominent scientific paper (Cabral et al. 2020, A global network of marine protected areas for food) was recently retracted by The Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS). The conflict of interest was apparent immediately upon publication, but it wasn’t until major problems in the underlying science were revealed that an investigation was launched, and the paper eventually retracted.
PNAS later determined that the person responsible for assigning Cabral et al.’s peer reviewers, Dr. Jane Lubchenco, had a conflict of interest. She collaborated with the Cabral et al. group and was the senior author on a follow-up paper published in Nature in March 2021. That follow-up paper, Sala et al. 2021, included the authors of Cabral et al. and depended on the same MPA model meant to be reviewed in PNAS.
According to the editor-in-chief of PNAS, the frequent collaboration relationship Lubchenco had with the authors constituted a conflict of interest, as did the personal relationship with one of the authors, Dr. Steve Gaines—her brother-in-law. She should not have accepted the task of editing the paper.
These conflicts of interest were clear and apparent from the time Cabral et al. 2020 was first submitted, but it wasn’t until the follow-up paper, Sala et al. 2021, received more press than any other ocean science paper in recent memory that eyebrows were raised. Now the Sala et al. follow-up paper is being questioned—more potential inaccuracies have been found.”
The picture for the article?
I think now I know what Emmett Kelly looked like without makeup.
My goodness the federal bureaucracy must be massive
One reason the federal bureaucracy is so massive is because of the disposable wealth that we accrue from the high energy density of fossil fuels. People can live comfortable lives despite all the tax money given to the government. I wonder if those fools have realized they might actually have to work for a living if they are successful in eliminating fossil fuels?
I kinda like this from N. Oreskes: It’s very difficult to deny things that people can see with their own eyes.
Yeah, well, six inches of snow on my front steps are VERY real, kiddo, Are you gonna clean off my front steps and my sidewalk for me? ARe you gonna scrape the ice off the windshields of my neighbors’ cars so that they can get to work this morning? Are you ever gonna leave that comfy controlled office setting of yours and go on a tramp through the woodlands and prairies with a camera in the dead of winter, like some of my neighbors do when they’re out looking for something to amuse their grandchildren? Are you gonna shack up in an icefishing hut on a bodacious fishing lake and take home some free food for your family?
I don’t think so. You couldn’t take that kind of thing. It’s too real for someone like you.
Meant to ask the rest of you what part of the current Milankovitch wobble are we in? Is it the warming part, or the part where the planet is tipped a bit more than usual away from the Sun? That does have an effect on the WEATHER, despite what the Warmians think.
climate scientists from both natural and social sciences
Climate scientists from social sciences????????????????
If you’re not careful, Barry will accuse you of being a social science denier.
Remember the former head of the IPCC was a railway engineer and wrote soft porn novels .
Looks like they were trying to outdo each other on the climate change. And no other argument allowed.
We aren’t even doing anything about tectonic plates moving ten-times as fast as sea level is rising.
For that matter, we aren’t doing anything about the ‘army’ that is invading us across our southern border!
A snail can crawl at 50,000 times the speed the oceans are “advancing” I think we’ll adapt ! It’s hilarious when you hear statements from the panic merchants that sea level rise is going to flood peoples houses and turn them into climate change refuges . Yea well maybe , eventually (doubt it ) but the sea is not going to rise a foot overnight and catch people out ! If it does happen ,or even start for that matter people will be able to see it way before (years) anything needs to be done .
The presence of Naomi Oreskes and Michael Mann and the absence of Steven Koonin tells you everything you need to know about the credibility of this document.
‘President Biden’s administration sowing more division and disunity, by demonising political opponents rather than including them in the conversation’
That’s because they’re fascists, who’ve seized power, intend to keep it, and this is what fascists do.
I mean it was only right there in everything coming from every aspect of the Progressive left for the last fifty years – it’s utterly amazing that people can still be surprised.
“Committed to 1 foot of sea rise by 2050.” The crack pipes arrived early for this clown show. Virtually every source available pegs sea level rise at the rate of 2-2.5 millimeters annually. It has been the same for hundreds of years as we exited the Little Ice Age. At that rate, sea levels will rise by 2,5 inches by 2050. They are all liars and deserve to lose their jobs.