Guest essay by Eric Worrall
h/t Dr. Willie Soon; President Biden’s administration sowing more division and disunity, by demonising political opponents rather than including them in the conversation.
Readout of White House Climate Science Roundtable on Countering “Delayism” and Communicating the Urgency of Climate Action
FEBRUARY 25, 2022•PRESS RELEASES
The White House Office of Science and Technology Policy hosted a 2-hour virtual roundtable yesterday of climate scientists from both natural and social sciences and other experts to discuss the scientific understanding of why arguments for delaying action on climate change are appealing and how they can be countered effectively. The event is the first White House-level convening of experts on the topic of “climate delayism” and its associated planetary, financial, and societal risks and costs. White House leaders and 17 scientists and communications experts from 11 states and the District of Columbia shared insights.
The head of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP) and Deputy Assistant to the President Dr. Alondra Nelson applauded the roundtable participants for providing knowledge which will help to inform and accelerate federal climate action, and cited their work as an example of the value of combining social science with physical science:
“This is deeply important to us, because, as you know, the Biden-Harris Administration’s agenda on climate change is historic. We rejoined the Paris Agreement on Day One, and we’ve been back at the table internationally — leading the world to increase our collective ambition, action, and innovation over the next decade. We’ve also set bold goals for the United States: to cut U.S. emissions in half by the end of the decade, to reach 100% clean electricity by 2035, and to reach net-zero emissions by 2050. And we are making unprecedented investments in clean energy and climate resilience, the largest in U.S. history, to build a better America.
Now, given the realities of climate change and global warming — including the rigor and soundness of the science, and the increasing evidence of its impacts — one could be tempted to ask, “what’s taken so long?” That brings us to another reality, which this group knows better than most: that there have been for decades, and still are, forces arrayed against the cause of climate action — running the gamut from self-interest and short-term thinking, to deliberate disinformation campaigns that are as insidious as they are invidious.”
White House OSTP Deputy Director for Climate and Environment Dr. Jane Lubchenco led the roundtable, with remarks that framed the historical moment:
“While there is broad awareness of the physical science aspects of this climate crisis, attention to the social sciences has lagged behind. And at the same time, powerful vested interests have skillfully manipulated the narrative to prevent or stall action. Our world is a coupled social and environmental system that must be understood and dealt with as an integrated system. Today, we bring this richer, more complete integration of physical and social sciences to the White House. It’s been thirty years since a Republican president signed our nation up to fight climate change. It’s time to understand and fight the delayism that has already cost us so dearly.”
In closing remarks, White House Senior Advisor Neera Tanden said, “It’s clear that a variety of special interests have had a vested interest in sowing doubt on climate change and feeding denialism and delay. We need to confront that reality. However, despite this organized campaign, a strong majority of the country wants climate action because they understand the consequences of inaction.”
Five speakers provided remarks to prompt conversation:
Tony Leiserowitz, Founder and Director of the Yale Program on Climate Communication, Senior Research Scientist at the Yale School of the Environment, started the conversation by sharing data about public perceptions of climate change, how they have changed, and why.
“In 2015, the ‘Alarmed’ and ‘Dismissive’ were tied at about 12 percent each. So for every one American ‘Alarmed’ about climate change, there was one ‘Dismissive.’ But that has changed radically in the last six years. Today, there are more than three ‘Alarmed’ for every one ‘Dismissive’ in the country. And that reflects a fundamental shift in the underlying social, cultural, and political climate of climate change. It’s why we are so achingly close to being able to take national action even though we haven’t gotten there yet.”
Andrea Dutton, Professor of Geoscience from the University of Wisconsin, summarized evidence for some of the risks of delay in light of the predictable impacts of climate change over the next three to five decades, including some less predictable impacts and potential tipping points.
“Sea-level rise threatens the safety and security of the United States. It’s as if we have an army ringing our coastlines, advancing farther each year than the previous year, taking more land as it goes. We would not tolerate that; yet we are allowing sea level to rise unabated. We are already losing infrastructure due to coastal retreat and as sea-level rise accelerates, we risk of multiplying these losses. Social inequities are already arising between coastal communities that afford to adapt and those that cannot.”
Gernot Wagner, New York University Associated Clinical Professor and Clinical Associate Professor of Environmental Studies and Public Service steered the discussion into the very real economic costs associated with delaying climate action.
“From an economic standpoint, it is precisely the risks and uncertainties that increase the urgency for action. What we know for sure is bad, what we don’t is potentially much worse.”
Dan Abbasi, former government and civil society climate communicator, now with Douglass Winthrop Advisors, shared his experiences on effective ways to counter arguments for delay and lessons learned.
“We’re committed to 1 foot of sea level rise by 2050, but we can still stay at the low end of 2 to 7 feet by 2100 if we act. So we need to make that fork in the road more visible and remind Americans of the can-do spirit they have always brought to challenges like this and need to again – from business innovators to citizens holding their elected officials more accountable.”
Marshall Shepherd, University of Georgia Distinguished Professor of Geography and Atmospheric Sciences and past President of American Meteorological Society focused on overcoming arguments for delay through communication with different audiences.
“Doom and gloom solutions do not do well. Most Americans don’t see scientists like us every day – they see the scientists on their TV, their meteorologists, talking about kitchen table issues. We have to remember that good messengers come from inside a community.”
Throughout the two hours, there was a lively discussion among participants. Some additional points included the following:
Katey Walter Anthony, Professor & Aquatic Ecosystem Ecologist, the University of Alaska Fairbanks
“In the Arctic, climate-driven changes include temperature rise at triple the rate of the rest of the planet, wildfires, decline in sea ice extent, loss of glaciers, and widespread warming and thaw of permafrost. These changes come with local costs. Communities must relocate. Roads, pipelines, and trails collapse. Water supplies become uncertain. Fish, wildlife and plants used for food and materials face threats. Ramifications are also planetary. Less snow and ice and higher carbon emissions in the Arctic increase sea levels.”
Kerry Ard, Professor of Environmental & Natural Resource Sociology, Ohio State University
“Climate change has increasingly been pushing people in the poorest and most affected countries towards opportunities in the U.S. and other industrialized countries. The demographic shift has prompted xenophobia and unrest, leaving policymakers to wonder what can be done to aid in an equitable and peaceful transition of receiving communities into healthy, more diverse, forms of themselves?”
Shahzeen Attari, Professor of Environmental and Public Affairs, Indiana University
“Our prior work finds that conservatives and liberals have a shared vision for a decarbonized energy mix for the year 2050, but they do not agree on the policy pathways of getting there. Given these results, we need to identify narratives for climate action and solutions that will appeal to conservatives to foster swift decarbonization today.”
Kim Cobb, Georgia Power Chair & Director, Global Change Program, Georgia Tech
“What are the opportunities, how can we grow our economy, how can we move equitably towards a low-carbon future? These are the kinds of arguments which can gain traction and help Georgians see what’s the risk and what’s the benefit from a Georgia-based perspective.”
Justin Farrell, Professor of Sociology, Yale University
“Research also shows that funding was allocated to create fake “grassroots” organizations– or front groups – staffed with fake experts, again with the intent of promoting doubt about CO2 and increasing global temperatures. Further, fossil fuel corporations and trade associations hired some of the best PR firms to test, tailor and target messaging they knew would be effective in manipulating public opinion related to climate change.”
John E. Fernandez, Professor of Architecture & Director of the MIT Environmental Solutions Initiative
“Targeted delayism downplays health concerns of methane in homes and intends to extend the use of methane through the creation of concern for the viability of alternative low-carbon solutions. Narratives of delayism have taken advantage of this gap in general awareness about the health consequences of household methane emissions and combustion to assert that natural gas is the very best low-carbon alternative currently available. This is not accurate.”
Michel Gelobter, Climate Strategist, Founder & Chairman, Cooler
“Climate is a slow-motion pandemic: The direct impact of climate change is being felt, but as those of us who are deep in the field know, we’re doing a terrible job of surfacing the impacts of how much heat and environmental change we are baking into our social and environmental systems.”
Katharine Hayhoe, Chief Scientist, The Nature Conservancy and Professor, Texas Tech University
“That’s why it’s so encouraging when research provides us with insights on how we can overcome political polarization: by focusing on something that connects us rather than divides us. For example, when we address the challenge of psychological distance by bringing the impacts of climate change near to us in time and space and relevance, people can bond and connect over a shared love of or concern for place, family, or priority.”
Michael Mann, Professor of Atmospheric Science & Director of Earth System Science Center, Pennsylvania State University
“We really are moving away from hard denial. It’s very difficult to deny things that people can see with their own eyes. And so we’ve seen this transition from denial to division, deflection, distraction, delay, and quite important – doom-mongering. We can create a much better world if we act now. There is urgency but there is also agency.”
Naomi Oreskes, Professor of the History of Science & Professor of Earth and Planetary Sciences, Harvard University
“For most ordinary Americans, it’s about the present. It is about what’s happening right here, right now in the U.S. of A. We have concrete scientific evidence that storms, floods, fires that have destroyed people’s homes have been made worse by climate change. I have a slide that is a picture of a terrifying fire that is burning down people’s homes, and the title is three words: Theory Made Real. When I show that slide to my audiences, you can hear a pin drop in the room. People may say, ‘let’s wait and see.’ The truth is, we have waited, and we have seen.”
Veerabhadran “Ram” Ramanathan, Professor of Climate Sciences and Physical Oceanography, Scripps Institution of Oceanography at University of California San Diego
“The dire consequences of unchecked warming are becoming clearer,” said Ramanathan. “Numerous medical academies in the US and worldwide have concluded that climate change poses grave threats to public health. After 40 years in this eco-chamber of restating climate facts, I have concluded we need a different approach. We have to unpack climate change from all the other issues that divide America.”
Jigar Shah, Director, U.S. Department of Energy Loan Programs Office
“We have at our disposal most of the tools and resources we need to meet the Administration’s bold climate agenda while creating good jobs through an equitable energy transition. Doing this will require a laser focus on using those resources and tools to maximize private sector capital formation – both supply and demand. In short, we need to a strong focus on government program execution with the specific goal of private sector capital formation.”
Read more: https://www.whitehouse.gov/ostp/news-updates/2022/02/25/readout-of-white-house-climate-science-roundtable-on-countering-delayism-and-communicating-the-urgency-of-climate-action/
The thing which really strikes me about this meeting is, as far as I can see, none of the participants said anything new. It is all becoming direr and clearer, as always – except that it is not.
From what I can see, no progress was made at this meeting, nothing new happened at this meeting. Just the same tired climate has beens mouthing the same empty formulas many of them have been repeating for the last two decades. As far as I can tell, anyone who might have said something new was not invited.
Update (EW): Fixed a typo in the first paragraph.
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What an august group — last august.
August 1914
They are that clueless
The talking points read as if they were composed by an algorithm analogous to one of those text generators one finds on line that spoof “post modernism” academic papers.
I truly wish these people would explain how an average sea-level rise that is currently about 3 millimeters per year (equal to the thickness of two dimes) will result in a rise of 1 foot in 30 years. It would only be about 4 3/4 inches.
And furthermore, anyone on the coast who is concerned about sea-level rise should promptly pack their bags and move. I’m sure they can find plenty of buyers for their property. It’s really that simple.
<2mm
The 3mm per year is based on the ridiculous satellite measurements
These loons always want to blame “special interests” (meaning oil companies, I presume) for “denial”, and that’s the biggest joke here. That would be like a pack of wolves blaming someone or something else on the fact that the sheep themselves don’t want to be eaten….regardless of what the farmer thinks.
The loons are too dense (apparently) to see that it is the consumer of fossil fuels and their products who don’t want to sit in the dark, freeze to death, go without medical care, and in general be forced to revert back to a 17th century lifestyle (and the lifespan that goes with it)!
Of course, such a meeting would never ever allow any users of those products (forget the producers) to defend their right to live.
And I would add (though it likely isn’t ever going to happen) I’d love to see all of the people at this meeting be forced to live a 17th century lifestyle for, maybe, 6 months or more. They could have a wind or water mill to grind grain, horses for transportation, and would be performing all of the manual labor that goes with that primitive lifestyle. I wonder how many would change their tune real fast….
Seems like a meeting to affirm loyalty to the cause.
Why do I see “climate delayism” and think of ‘vaccine hesitancy’?
The same sort of people inventing the same sort of derogation to dismiss the same sort of rational skeptics.
“value of combining social science with physical science”
Social science is destroying physical science departments all across the US, with the enthusiastic encouragement of university administrators and the morally decrepit surrender of academic scientists.
In this case: Social Science = Climate Change Propaganda
They are substituting propaganda for physical science, when it comes to Human-caused Climate Change.
Those least qualified (except perhaps the totally uneducated) to assess the science are typically the most supportive of the easily disputed CAGW claims. They are so impressed with their credentials that they overlook that fact that they weren’t smart enough to become engineers or scientists. They often share the same characteristics of actors (the ability to memorize a script) and lawyers (the ability to speak well). However, I’m reminded of an old Japanese saying: “It is rare to find a man who speaks well and is also trustworthy.”
The White House Office of Science and Technology Policy and these bunch of yahoos they have gathered together present a national security risk to the United States.
They are giving bad advice that has no basis in fact, and their bad advice, if implemented, puts the United States at a disadvantage versus its mortal foreign enemies.
The United States has already become dependent on Russia, and the madman Putin, for our oil, based on advice from idiots like this bunch of Science and Technology idiots.
Michael Mann can see human-caused climate change in the weather, he claims. Greta can see CO2 in the air, she claims. Both are delusional. Don’t take any advice from these people.
“…nothing new happened at this meeting. Just the same tired climate has beens mouthing the same empty formulas many of them have been repeating for the last two decades.”
It was like a choir practice. This zero-ology is exactly what you get when you shut down debate and berate and marginalize knowledgeable people who have different things to say on the subject. In this (pre)”historic” meeting you have 17 people with one thought, including half a dozen innumerate social sciencey types who are even more in the dark. At least Mann knows he’s full of baloney by now.
I any case, what is the problem? If you have the majority on your side it should be a slam dunk. No! The “delayism” is from themselves. Proponents of “action” have run into the brick wall of reality. As sceptics have been saying:
a) Renewables are totally unfit for purpose. Growing energy demand is being met by fossil fuels or blackouts!
b) The harm to fossil fuels through bad press, bad policy and divestment campaigns (‘defunding’) have resulted in stymying markets and production causing rocketing of fossil fuel prices, just when gov is coming, per force, to the realization that they need abundant fossil fuels to maintain an economy and keep homes lit and warmed.
c) They have known for quite some time that transportation relying on fossil fuels is the big nut to crack. Electric battery powered car technology is not yet perfected and status of raw material supplies, dangerous battery fires, the ‘need’ for trillions to be spent on hapless renewables to try to meet transportation electricity demand on top of a miserable performance in supplying home and industry power and other issues are proving to be intractable problems.
d) They went ahead confidently with a renewables electric grid as the easy nut to crack, but now are nostril-deep in a swamp of reality. They know it but like frogs swimming in a pot of water on a stove they just keep going. “Delayism” is their illness brought on by totally impractical actions.
You are implicitly assuming that it can be perfected. I’m not sure that is true.
Well, I’m an engineer. The broad discipline’s track record is pretty impressive I’m sure you’ll agree. One day, maybe a few centuries from now, we won’t have oil and gas in sufficient quantities to be cheap. Re EVs, you can bank on them finally being needed. Their electrical requirements may not even be from batteries. Engineers arent just looking on the shelf for ideas.
With reliable supplies of very cheap energy, hydrocarbons can be created out of air and water, just as plants do. So, I’m not sure that it is a given that EVs will finally be needed. I see them as more a niche for short commutes in cities.
I suspect that either fusion or anti-matter will be perfected before EVs are.
Since the leader of this conclave only invited people that agreed with her, why bother? She could just tell Xiden and the press of her conclusions and avoid the expense.
“climate scientists from both natural and social sciences”
This was clearly a pooling of ignorance. Where are the engineers?
“From what I can see, no progress was made at this meeting,…”
Nothing new was intended, nor progress expected. The meeting was composed to be the equivalent of a show trial, to provide the cover justifying the planned equivalent of political executions.
They intend to bulldoze the opposition with the power of government. We’ll see whether that includes police power.
Bit like COP really.
This may not seem on the subject, but I believe it is. A ten minute video of a long time RCP officer resigning after finding he had violated his oath and the Canadian Constitution in following Trudeaus orders.
https://youtu.be/tihlZjcYhGU
The clown convention came early. So this was a meeting convened by a president who one day asked fossil fuel suppliers to ramp up supplies and on the next day talked of trying to stop fossil fuel consumption, a president who shared with Chinese leadership American intelligence about the Russian invasion of Ukraine so that that same leadership could then share it with the Russians, a president who went to the beach in Delawware the same time the Russian President was making veiled threats about nuclear war, and a president who appointed John Kerry as his climate Czar so that he can publically declare his dismay that Putins aggression in the Ukraine might distract him from fighting the imaginary climate crisis. All consistent and all unbelievable that people still support this presidency.
A lot less people support Biden now than when he took office a year ago. His numbers are terrible, and for good reason.
Pretty soon you won’t be able to find anybody that voted for Xiden. Let’s Go Brandon!
With a 37% approval rating, the public does not support the president. However, our constitution doesn’t provide for an orderly dissolution of the administration and immediate replacement.
Impeachment is a theoretical course of action, but improbable with the Democrats controlling both the house and senate. Besides, replacing Biden with Harris would be akin to going from the proverbial frying pan into the fire.
We will just have to hold our noses until the November mid-term elections and hope that he doesn’t do any irreversible damage between now and then.
I blame the MSM for being in this situation because they demonized Trump, and supported Biden and gave him a pass on hiding in his basement and showing signs of senility even before the election.
The legacy image of the Joey presidency will be the photos of the dozen or so shills standing in the carefully painted 6-foot circles, all wearing face nappies at Biden campaign “events”.
I am convinced it is a Democrat thing . The tactic seems to always attack the character of an opponent when the facts are not in their favor . Let me point out that I am an independent, because I am also disgusted with the Republicans who can never seem to get anything done when they are in control. Corruption on one side ….Incompetence on the other. Our nation is deep in the 💩 unfortunately
They’re afraid to debate the “science”.
Conclusion: Their position is weak.
LOL, politics all the way down……..
Can’t beat a good old echo chamber when the rest of the world ignore you in all practical terms. But they are dangerous people
It seems more and more that they don’t want to discuss science and keep trying to shift the discussion to soft social sciences along the lines of “why aren’t regular people buying the science we are selling”. Writing papers trying to come up with psychological rationales for their inability to convince us
“….to discuss the scientific understanding of why arguments for delaying action on climate change are appealing and how they can be countered effectively…”
verbose bullshit
Like many academics they’ve lived on a steady diet of word salad for so long, causing chronic verbal diarrhea, they live in constant state of confirmation bias.
This is what you do when you need an excuse for why your policies can’t get the job done.
When will they tell us that the solution involves mass poverty, and the economic destruction of at least the middle class, as at least these are believable predictions.. One of these clowns – Dan Abbasi is talking about a 2 – 7 foot rise in sea levels by 2100. I beleve you Dan – The glaciers in Glacier National Park are gone, London UK is uninhabitabe since 2000, snow is gone from Mt Kilamanjaro, polar bears are extict, residents of the Arctic want it to get cold again, average temps are not significantly cooler than your models predict, (Somebody please stop me, this could go on for days!)…….
Did any of them allude to or mention all the failed predictions? No, I thought not!
Instead they turned it up to 11 on some new ones.
Seriously? “The conversation”? If what takes place with leftists—including the control freaks of climatism—is a “conversation,” rape is a “social event,” and sticking up the local convenience store is a “financial transaction.” But we also know the duplicity of their terminology because riot and arson is a “peaceful protest,” and looting stores is “reparations.”
Well, “Mostly peaceful.” Except for when they weren’t, which seemed to be most of the time.
Jesus, imagine that many Chicken Littles in the one “room”!!
Four Yorkshiremen- Monty Python – YouTube
The irony is that what they would like to do will have no significant effect on climate.
Back at https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/07/25/precipitable-water/ Willis pointed out the measured rise in water vapor and the warming that would have caused. The trend of WV increase has continued. Since Jan 1988 it has been measured accurately worldwide by NASA/RSS and has been increasing 1.44% per decade. The WV increase that would result from just planet temperature increase is calculated at Sect 7 of https://watervaporandwarming.blogspot.com which also provides a link to the NASA/RSS data.
A comparison of measured WV increase and WV increase calculated from the reported HadCRUT4 average global temperatures is shown here. The measured increase assuming UAH reported temperatures is much greater. The measured WV increase is about twice what is calculated from temperature increase.
This demonstrates that the average planet temperature increase that is attributable to humanity (about 0.7 K since 1895) has been caused by WV increase, not CO2 increase
Fewer CCNs in the atmosphere means condensation is a tiny bit less likely. Water vapour goes up. Pan evaporation rates go down. Cloud cover is reduced. All these things are actually happening. So if there were a plausible mechanism for reduction in CCN production — DMS and/or salt aerosols — then we might have an alternative theory for AGW.
If only someone could suggest a way of reducing wave action and hence stirring we might get somewhere — less stirring would reduce the upwelling of nutrients and hence reduce the population of DMS-producing plankton, and fewer breaking waves would reduce CCN production. Is there such a mechanism? Yes. Oil/surfactant/lipid pollution of the ocean surface suppresses wave action making a glassy look. I’ve seen this from 40,000ft on the way to Madeira in 2012, tens of thousands of square miles of it, with wave breaking suppressed up to Force 4. The strato-cumulus that covers much of the ocean was conspicuous by its absence.
When Deepwater Horizon blew I tried to interest Judith Curry in the idea and she was sufficiently intrigued to see if she could find an aerosol sniffer aircraft in the vicinity, but no luck.
If CO2 is not the only climate control knob then taking action as if it were is stupid. A few million dollars spent on investigating water surfaces polluted with oil/surfactant/lipid to see if warming rates are different would be a good investment. Any non-CO2 contribution means stopping the use of fossil fuels is less urgent and we don’t have to crash the West in order to save the planet. I realise this will not please some people who think that result is desirable, and that is the only reason I can see that the possibility of such is not under active and urgent investigation.
You could try The Sea of Marmara, the Black Sea, Lake Michigan, Lake Tanganyika…
JF
<sigh> How long, oh Lord, how long?
Deepwater horizon blew April 20, 2010. WV declined steeply shortly after. Probably just a coincidence. Water use rate increased around 1960, especially for irrigation.
Re my recent… oops, sorry. Forgot to retype my email.
JF