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Claim: “Absolutely Wrong” Countries Must Choose Between Prosperity and Climate Action

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Former British Prime Minister Theresa May scolding the Australian colonies for not following Britain’s lead on climate change.

Former UK prime minister urges Australia to lift its game on climate change

Theresa May has declared Australia should pick up its climate change agenda “rather more proactively” during the former British prime minister’s first visit.

Published 11 February 2022 at 6:38pm

Former British prime minister Theresa May has criticised Australia for not being proactive enough in combating climate change while visiting the nation for the first time.

The MP for the UK constituency of Maidenhead branded as “absolutely wrong” the recurring argument that countries must choose between tackling climate change or continuing to grow the economy.

“You can do well by your economy and deal with climate. It just means you have to do business in a different way,” Ms May told the Victorian Chamber of Commerce and Industry lunch, where she spoke for an undisclosed fee.

“Some of the innovations we’re seeing around climate change for the future, I think are hugely exciting.

“I know I’m sitting here in Australia so I’m bound to say this: I hope Australia is going to pick up this agenda of climate change rather more proactively than it has done up to now.”

Read more: https://www.sbs.com.au/news/former-uk-prime-minister-urges-australia-to-lift-its-game-on-climate-change/ef08590f-a403-4a1b-97a7-7e352dd41210

Theresa May’s comments are more than refuted by Britain’s worsening green energy crisis, and the humiliation of Britain turning to coal a few months ago to keep the lights on, after all those billions of pounds worth of renewables failed to deliver during a Europe wide wind drought.

But in my opinion Theresa May has never been someone who lets inconvenient facts get in the way of what she believes.

When Theresa May was elected Prime Minister of Britain, there were hopes her reign would be a rerun of legendary Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, that May might be someone who could lead Britain into a new economic renaissance. Sadly the only resemblance between Theresa May and Margaret Thatcher were the hairstyle and the handbag.

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Tom Halla
February 11, 2022 6:03 pm

While Boris Johnson has been quite a disappointment, May always seemed clueless.

philincalifornia
Reply to  Tom Halla
February 11, 2022 9:22 pm

Yep, a leading member of the UK elitist fcukwiterati. Remember when Novichok had to be made in a secret Russian lab? I’m not saying it wasn’t but hello dear, the structures and chemical syntheses were available on the internet.

Bryan A
Reply to  philincalifornia
February 11, 2022 10:38 pm

Hmmm…
Prosperity…
Climate Action…
Prosperity…
Climate Action…
Hmmm…
PROSPERITY
As if there was ever really a choice between prospering and expending Hundred$ of Trillion$ fighting a nonexistent Boogy-Mann

mark
Reply to  Tom Halla
February 12, 2022 12:28 am

“Quite a disappointment “

Classic British understatement…..

Gerry, England
Reply to  mark
February 13, 2022 7:03 am

For some of us the lying oaf Johnson was never going to be a disappointment. He has performed as expected for an ignorant and incompetent clown who has no record of success. As soon as the party grandees see him as a vote loser he will be gone – after the May local elections most likely.

Old England
Reply to  Tom Halla
February 12, 2022 2:52 pm

Well she is – much to my shame – my MP. I have met her to discuss matters including climate change and presented and explained papers which show that windmills – and renewables – can never meet the UK’s energy needs.

People locally who have known and worked with her for many years have said that if she has a simple brief which has been carefully explained she can follow and stick to it so long as she is not asked anything outside of the brief.

She is a very good constituency MP and supports many local organisations but outside of that ………….

I formed the impression that she, along with most of our MPs, have been so brainwashed by climate propaganda that they are no longer capable of considering facts, even very simple ones, about climate or for that matter weighing pros and cons. I have no respect at all for her ‘intellect’ as so far in my meeting / corresponding with her it has been conspicuous by its absence.

Mike Lowe
Reply to  Tom Halla
February 12, 2022 3:06 pm

Theresa May did not have to share her bed with a Green lunatic!

jimmww
Reply to  Tom Halla
February 13, 2022 12:50 am

Absurd.

Reply to  Tom Halla
February 14, 2022 12:52 am

I agree,
However bad Boris Johnson is – Theresa May was worse.

February 11, 2022 6:22 pm

As I recall it, Margaret Thatcher eloquently and forcefully championed Global Warming as a lever for Nuclear Power, before she came to her senses and made a U-Turn on the subject of Global Warming.  The evidence against CO2 controlling the weather was sufficient to convince Margaret Thatcher that Climate Change was a fantasy. Theresa May is still babbling on about it.

Spetzer86
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
February 11, 2022 8:50 pm

Well, she didn’t swim to Australia. Somebody put some money in the jar to get her there.

mark
Reply to  Spetzer86
February 12, 2022 12:29 am

Why anyone would pay to listen to the Maybot is beyond me. I would pay to make her go away!

It doesn't add up...
Reply to  mark
February 12, 2022 8:18 am

Perhaps someone wants to buy Australian businesses on the cheap? Getting May to get the local government to trash them might be a cheap investment.

Disputin
Reply to  Spetzer86
February 12, 2022 3:05 am

But make sure there’s not enough to bring her back.

Alan M
Reply to  Disputin
February 12, 2022 4:00 am

No No you can have her back immediately. Must say I’m surprised she is still a useless MP, money must be too good to go out and get a real job

Alan the Brit
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
February 12, 2022 1:01 am

Do be careful Sir! As a retired structural engineer with a modest understanding of geology, I do not & would never deny that the Earth’s climate changes, it always has done &, saving some ghastly eco-bunny intervention that would probably lead us all into hell, it always will change just as it has done for 4.5 billion years!!! The only true climate change deniers are the eco-bunnies. The issue is & always will be, is what are the primary causes of climate change here on Earth, & once we have genuinely established what those causes are, we can efficiently adapt to said changes, just as the vast majority of life on Earth has done before, & again, always will do!!! Nuclear power is the future, what form that power will take is dependent upon technological discoveries & inventions, & yes as someone said a short while ago, Fusion power is only 30 years away, & has been ever since the scientists came up with the idea of it!!! As I pointed out to someone a while back, the Fukushima reactor failures was not the result of the Tsunami directly, but the failure of the back-up generators to cool things down were taken out by the wave because they were located on the ground, instead of being positioned on platforms several feet/metres above ground!!!

Stephen Skinner
Reply to  Alan the Brit
February 12, 2022 1:30 am

And it seems the death toll from radiation from the Fukushima incident was zero. Also, there is no single Earth climate but at least 6 major climate zones. I would argue that all the climate types remain, but the edges move about, so that during the last glacial expansion the Polar region expanded and the Arid regions also. Temperatures would have been lower over a huge area, but the Polar climate was still Polar. Considering how many climate types there are, if someone is living on a boundary between two (or more) climate zones, the impression might seem that the climate (weather) keeps changing, such as the UK.
If there is one world climate, what is it’s climatic characteristics. Arid? Temperate? Tropical? Polar?

Brad-DXT
Reply to  Stephen Skinner
February 12, 2022 9:04 am

She is pushing for one world government, climate has nothing to do with it.

If there is one world climate, what is it’s climatic characteristics.”

griff
Reply to  Alan the Brit
February 12, 2022 2:03 am

Yes, but now it is changing from a new and additional factor: the addition of large amounts of human generated CO2 to the atmosphere.

surely you must acknowledge this is a new factor on top of geologic etc processes which must have an effect?

Ron Long
Reply to  griff
February 12, 2022 2:18 am

griff, the answer to your question about additional CO2 in the atmosphere is “greening”, as per NASA data.

Bryan A
Reply to  Ron Long
February 12, 2022 6:59 am

Take 10,000 grains of rice and place them on the table (11×17 rectangle) this is the atmosphere.
Color 3.5 blue … this is CO2
Color the other half Green, this is man’s contribution
Now replace the colored ones with fresh ones and color 1 green.
Now add 90,000 more grains of rice.
The green is man’s contribution since pre-industrial times
OOOOO scary
And what we are supposed to spend hundreds of trillions on to eliminate

Stephen Skinner
Reply to  griff
February 12, 2022 2:22 am

Draw a graph and give the y axis a scale of 1,000,000 and then plot the ‘rise’ in CO2 over the last 200 years as parts per million. How scary does it look?

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  griff
February 12, 2022 2:55 am

“additional factor”
But, how additional? 2%? 25%?75%?
Until you can say convincingly, the science ain’t settled and major policies should not be made costing what might as well be infinite amounts of money that doesn’t exist.

Stephen Skinner
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
February 12, 2022 3:07 am

And… science is a methodology, or approach. The output of that is enormous but some becomes useful knowledge, when it is proved to be true, using scientific methods. The knowledge is not ‘science’, but knowledge.

paul courtney
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
February 12, 2022 6:40 am

Mr. Zorzin: According to Mr. griff’s sources, 97% of climate scientists say mrna jabs are 95% effective.
Sorry to go there, but ever since Fauci got Daszak (sp?) and 50 doctors to write that letter, the crossover of “methods” between CliSci and top gov’t doctors was too damn obvious. Time to get the committee together again, so experts can tell us that trucker protest causes white supremacy. Sorry again, the crossover makes my head spin a bit.

Stephen Skinner
Reply to  paul courtney
February 12, 2022 10:00 am

“Nothing would be more fatal than for the Government of States to get into the hands of experts. Expert knowledge is limited knowledge and the unlimited ignorance of the plain man, who knows where it hurts, is a safer guide than any rigorous direction of a specialist.” – W. Churchill

Richard Page
Reply to  griff
February 12, 2022 4:08 am

Griffy, CO2 in the atmosphere is not a ‘new factor’ – the climate changes, CO2 goes up and goes down, just as it has always done from the earliest geological times. The only effect that atmospheric CO2 induces is delusional behaviour in clueless morons that lack any intelligence to understand the natural processes behind it.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Richard Page
February 12, 2022 7:07 am

Excellent comment, Richard.

CO2 does go up and down, and there is no correlation between CO2 and temperatures, so a little bit of human-derived CO2 will make no difference to anything, other than greening the planet.

The planet has been greened many times, as CO2 atmospheric content rises and falls, over the history of the Earth.

pigs_in_space
Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 12, 2022 10:51 am

yes then look at the millions of sq kms of carbonate sedimentary rock strata and oil shale left by those warm tropical oceans in places like Russia, Finland and Estonia….

And that’s just the bit we can see….where almost 3/4 of the invisible bit is covered with oceans…
Where did all that jurassic and permian CO2 go….probably lots of it into ROCK

Matt Kiro
Reply to  pigs_in_space
February 12, 2022 1:01 pm

Exactly, we humans are just trying to return some of the CO2 back to the atmosphere where it started!

Graemethecat
Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 12, 2022 11:32 am

Correction: there IS a correlation between CO2 and temperature, and it is close and causal. Unfortunately for Warmunists, the causation is the wrong way round. CO2 levels are a function of temperature, not vice versa.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Graemethecat
February 13, 2022 4:45 am

Good point.

pigs_in_space
Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 13, 2022 6:09 am

since being a school kid we all knew perfectly well, warm coca-cola became flat and undrinkable!
beats me the connection that can’t be made in today’s school kids.

Warm up the oceans a bit and the CO2 comes back out.
I prefer ice cold coke, plenty of fizz, and you can’t tell it’s packed with sugar at low temps.

PCman999
Reply to  griff
February 12, 2022 8:45 am

“Large amounts” – something that has to be measured in parts per million is not large, or are you saying your breath is poison?

Go after the termites first, those climate deniers make about a third more CO2 than humans.

pigs_in_space
Reply to  griff
February 12, 2022 10:46 am

“the addition of large amounts of human generated CO2 to the atmosphere”…
..yes caused by your endless and stupid waffling about things your know sweet F-About!

Lrp
Reply to  griff
February 12, 2022 11:10 am

There is an effect but larger factors dominate climate and its variability.

Reply to  griff
February 14, 2022 12:59 am

Slowly over long time scales, silicate weathering was leading earth to CO2 starvation and eventual extinction of all life on earth – even before a red giant sun. Mobilising fossil CO2 gives the earth’s biosphere a new lease of life.

“Was it for this that clay grew tall?”
Yes I believe that this was indeed why Gaia evolved humans.

Crisp
Reply to  Alan the Brit
February 13, 2022 12:01 am

No, Fukushima blew up because some idiot closed the roof because the plant was producing too much hydrogen. If it had been allowed to vent to atmosphere, we never have heard of this place.

Rich Davis
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
February 12, 2022 2:14 am

Theresa May is not bright enough to realize that she’s talking nonsense. I believe the Brits call that sort of fool a prat.

Or she has a financial conflict of interests, which we Yanks might call a crook.

Clive
Reply to  Rich Davis
February 12, 2022 3:02 am

She’s a typical politician. Those I have asked for evidence say they “beleeve the science” Unfortunately they are the ones making the decisions.

It doesn't add up...
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
February 12, 2022 8:16 am

She also had more elegant hair and a more talented stylist and more fashion sense. These were deployed to support her sensible views through conveying the right image, being neither a display of particular wealth nor of vanity.

Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
February 14, 2022 12:56 am

I sometimes wonder if the whole climate circus – for instance in the UK by Bojo etc. – is not just a deep cover strategy to revive nuclear and the fortunes of companies like Rolls Royce. That would be surprisingly intelligent.

Chris Hanley
February 11, 2022 6:32 pm

Misery loves company.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Chris Hanley
February 12, 2022 2:29 am

So, I always thought that should have been the campaign slogan for the Missouri Tourism Board — Missouri ❤️s Company!

For some reason they didn’t agree, go figure!

Maybe the MO Chamber of Commerce would go for it, just change to Companies?

Rod Evans
Reply to  Rich Davis
February 12, 2022 2:54 am

“If you want Missouri come to Missouri….we got lots of it!”

eyesonu
February 11, 2022 6:45 pm

… Ms May told the Victorian Chamber of Commerce and Industry lunch, where she spoke for an undisclosed fee.

I hope they paid her what she’s worth ….. lunch at McDonalds or perhaps a hotdog from a street hotdog stand.

Alexy Scherbakoff
February 11, 2022 7:12 pm

The idiot thinks that Australia is still a colony. Get lost. No-one here wants your opinion, has been.

philincalifornia
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
February 11, 2022 9:23 pm

Stoppit with the compliments. She’s a has-been who never was.

Redge
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
February 12, 2022 12:04 am

The idiot thinks that Australia is still a colony. Get lost. No-one here wants your opinion, has been never was.

Oops should have read Phils comment first – my bad

Geoffrey Williams
February 11, 2022 7:15 pm

When Theresa May was PM of the uk she was a compulsive liar.
Why would anyone in Australia believe a word she says . .

griff
Reply to  Geoffrey Williams
February 12, 2022 2:04 am

Yes, just listen to that nice Mr Johnson… oh wait!

Alan M
Reply to  griff
February 12, 2022 4:03 am

No BoJo has always been seen as an absolute “tosser”

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Alan M
February 12, 2022 6:15 pm

No BoJo has always been seen as an absolute “tosser”

Which gives you some idea just how bad Mrs. May was to make BoJo appear to be an improvement.

paul courtney
Reply to  griff
February 12, 2022 6:51 am

As an oldster who tries to keep up, Mr. griff’s comment is the definition of “whataboutism.” Point- May is liar. How is “well, somebody else lies” a counterpoint?

Lrp
Reply to  griff
February 12, 2022 11:18 am

So, liars wall to wall! What would that make you?

Rory Forbes
Reply to  griff
February 12, 2022 6:17 pm

No one said there’s much hope left for Britain. With a few exceptions it’s now pretty much a write off.

Richard Page
Reply to  Geoffrey Williams
February 12, 2022 4:17 am

When she was Home Secretary she was a compulsive liar as well; she doesn’t seem to have changed her attitude to a more draconian or autocratic government either. She’s the kind of Tory that gives conservative’s a bad name.

Chris Hanley
February 11, 2022 7:22 pm

… “absolutely wrong” the recurring argument that countries must choose between tackling climate change or continuing to grow the economy … (Theresa May).

No absolutely correct according to empirical evidence in the UK, after steady growth for twenty years the GDP, GDP per cap, Productivity have all stalled since 2008 when the Climate Change Act became law.

Pillage Idiot
Reply to  Chris Hanley
February 11, 2022 7:42 pm

Why are you harshing her narrative with some facts?

You’re not one of those icky scientists are you?

/s off

Chris Hanley
Reply to  Pillage Idiot
February 11, 2022 8:45 pm

That’s a benefit of the internet, nowadays any fool can look up the data for themselves, journalists excepted of course.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Chris Hanley
February 12, 2022 8:47 am

That is why “cancel culture” demonizes and silences (de-platforms) non-Leftist facts. This will not end well: Government intervention in the twitverse.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Chris Hanley
February 12, 2022 1:05 am

Yes true, & the best joke of all was when the Climate Change disaster was being passed in Parliament, it snowed in October for the first time in decades, something lost on the dim-witted incumbents of the Houses of Parliament!!!

gowest
Reply to  Chris Hanley
February 12, 2022 6:52 am

Britain is a much better place than Europe now that Brexit has taken place – The square mile is a boom zone, while France is considering Frexit! Who would of thought politicians could be so wrong. Imagine what a trump style no renewables subsidy / cheap gas revolution could do for Australia by releasing power users from the state government ramping up of electricity prices. No more power cuts in the bush to support the state govt windfall power revenue?

Climate believer
Reply to  gowest
February 12, 2022 7:47 am

“France is considering Frexit!”

10/10 for optimism…mais non.

pigs_in_space
Reply to  Climate believer
February 12, 2022 10:57 am

totally agree there from this side of the channel Britain as a BOOM zone. – in your dreams.

Get a life! as a 30+ yr exporter from the island/importer in EU, we are all doing anything we possibly can do avoid buying ANYTHING from the cursed island.
Britain is haemorrhaging exports like Ebola.

Roy Banks
Reply to  pigs_in_space
February 13, 2022 8:19 am

FYi imports from the EU/France to the UK have reduced considerably since Brexit. UK exports have also decreased to the EU/France but by far less than our imports. UK is pivoting it trade away from the EU which can only be a good move

markl
February 11, 2022 7:47 pm

Indicative of the AGW narrative and nothing more. Capitalism and prosperity bad and Socialism and poverty good until we run out of the Capitalists money good.

commieBob
February 11, 2022 10:18 pm

Obviously, the path to a prosperous future (assuming no fossil fuels) is nuclear.

In Canada, this SMR (Small Modular Reactor) technology seems to be farthest along the road to actually being built. It’s so exciting. We could be mass producing SMRs within the decade.

Sadly, on reading the blurb linked above, it turns out that the coolant is helium. All commercial helium is produced from natural gas. Oops. If we get rid of fossil fuels, where will we get helium? Fortunately, the Australians won’t make such a stupid mistake. They seem to have banned nuclear energy.

AndyHce
Reply to  commieBob
February 12, 2022 12:17 am

must be extracted/separated from natural gas. There is no current, and probably no future nuclear alchemy to transmute CH4 into He.

Rich Davis
Reply to  AndyHce
February 12, 2022 2:48 am

In what is it? 30 years?, what with fusion being right around the corner, we could use windmills to produce green hydrogen and then fusion to make the helium to cool the SMRs. But never mind, we won’t need the SMRs once we have fusion, right?

DMacKenzie
Reply to  commieBob
February 12, 2022 7:19 am

commieBob…just for the record, there are 6 nuclear power plants in Canada, 19 Candu reactors, the first going into operation in 1958, so are much further along than SMR, and are a very safe design which can reprocess other spent fuel. However, light water “run hotter” designs have been the latest purchases….I think flawed logic….

J. R.
February 11, 2022 10:38 pm

“… the recurring argument that countries must choose between tackling climate change or continuing to grow the economy.”

They can do both if they go nuclear.

Rich Davis
Reply to  J. R.
February 12, 2022 4:06 am

Nuclear is fine, but you beg the question. Only if you assume that climate change is caused by human activities can it be at all possible to “tackle climate change”.

Such small and beneficial warming as might accompany fossil fuel burning is not a problem to be “tackled”, and regardless of what we may do, there will always be natural climate change, sometime (geologically) soon leading to a real catastrophic natural global cooling. CNGC is a real threat, unlike CAGW.

J. R.
Reply to  Rich Davis
February 12, 2022 9:59 am

Thanks, I hadn’t realized what my response implied. I don’t think “climate change” needs tackling because it’s been a fraud since the beginning. I was thinking they can do both from their own perspective. What needs tackling is the dishonesty and alarmism.

Dean
February 11, 2022 10:51 pm

As Dominic Frisby sang about May in the “Maybe Song”

They said she was a strategist,
of judgement, sound and true.
Experienced and competent,
consistent through and through.

Though lacking in charisma,
she is forceful and refined.
A strong and stable leader,
for these dark and dangerous times.

This shrewd operator has it so well planned…..

on the other hand.

Thank the Lord Theresa May is gone!

Christ she just went on and on and on.

Her Brexit’s insane,
Incompetence reigns,
Its chaos unabated.

Never says what she thinks,
about anything.
Its like she’s automated.

Thank the Lord Theresa May is gone!

Rich Davis
Reply to  Dean
February 12, 2022 4:17 am
M Courtney
February 11, 2022 11:43 pm

Australia needs to decide if it’s part of the Chinese sphere of influence as it’s location and exports suggest, or part of the Anglosphere as it’s culture and history demands.

This issue needs to be seen as another part of that split.

Unfortunately on this issue the Chinese are more sensible than the Anglosphere. But this is a rare issue. Generally China should look to be closer to UK and US policies than to China’s.

Alan M
Reply to  M Courtney
February 12, 2022 4:07 am

No Australia should look to be part of the AustraliaSphere, bugger off Charlie

commieBob
Reply to  M Courtney
February 12, 2022 2:48 pm

Because of China’s bully boy tactics, Australia should avoid being entangled in a Chinese web. China has alienated everyone else in the region, so Australia could be part of the anti-China sphere. 🙂

Peta of Newark
February 11, 2022 11:44 pm

Aussies are soft – let’s see her visit India, China or Russia and say that.

They ## will point out that she’s believing that the Broken Window Fallacy is a real, sound & good economic model – that the business of spending money actually makes more money.

At first sight it is very alluring.
Because if you’re inside the bubble that is = Government, by forcing folks to spend money you will see increased tax revenue coming in. This will be from tax levied on the goods being supplied, taxes levied on the people doing the new work and also the jobs and taxes created from people employed to go round breaking the windows.

Hello hello Mrs May – that is EXACTLY what you yourself are doing in Australia. Some selfish and anti-patriotic muppet(s) have invited you in to do exactly that, hurl rocks and break a few windows.
nice

A lovely example was/is a little craic I got into elsewhere where a body answering to ‘Joanne’ popped up to lambast me on the subject of fracking, the earthquakes and chemicals in same. She could do that because she ‘knew all about fracking’ while giving away perfectly no details or examples whatsoever

She then went on to explain how lovely her electric car was –
…..how it had saved *her* so much on servicing
…..how she had spent such a pittance on electricity to power it (she thought she was getting 10+ miles per kWh)
….how she had saved so much on not paying this tax, that tax, the other tax

But Joanne’s rave was all about ‘her
About how she had saved money here, saved more money there, saved money everywhere while completely oblivious to the fact that everyone else had subsidized her

Therein lies The Real Problem so nicely exemplified by Theresa May blowing her well-paid mouth off in Australia.

All our Governments are doing is teaching the arts of Selfishness & Greed while claiming that they are doing the exact opposite.
To be ‘thinking of the children‘ while printing money and spending it on property
To be ‘managing inflation‘, basically the business of stealing money from pension funds
To be ‘creating jobs‘ – jobs that are, in part, empire building on their part and also in other part, actually paying people to go round ‘breaking windows’ and subsidising more people to come fix them.
With plastic toys, rare earth elements mined by children and spyware infested junk entirely assembled by slaves.

and then they get upset by what they claim to be misinformation now turning up everywhere
It just gets more surreal and Pythonesque almost daily

## China will smile benignly and tacitly agree. Because they are supplying the ‘new windows’
That vacant female bovine is so thick, so self obsseed, so blinded by her own greed and selfishness that she doesn’t even know that China has her over a barrel and is <doing something rude> to her, but most importantly, everybody in the west.

Alan M
Reply to  Peta of Newark
February 12, 2022 4:12 am

Enjoy your little mindless rant? The difference is she can come to Australia and say that, what is disappointing is that the MSM haven’t torn her to shreds, well not that I’ve seen yet

michel
February 12, 2022 1:14 am

In other news today, another story emerges of the real costs of Net Zero. These are coming out all the time now. So far we have had the need to implement draconian controls on electricity usage, as the country moves all of its transport and heating to electricity. That means hooking up the heat pumps and the EV chargers to smart meters so that they can be turned off during peak demand periods.

In addition, it then turns out to be necessary to implement 15 minute usage monitoring and to charge for usage based on the spot rate. You start to cook dinner, and you have no idea how much having the oven on will cost you, but you can be sure that if its a cold calm Christmas day when everyone else is cooking their turkey and the wind has fallen to close to zero, you will be charged a bomb, if you are even allowed to use the oven at all.

This however is evidently not enough to make the move to wind and solar viable.

We then have the proposals not only to cut off charging of EVs and heat pumps, but to drain the EV batteries to support the grid in these same peak demand and low wind periods. Its not going to be enough just to limit usage, its actually going to be necessary to drain the car batteries.

We are now encountering a further stage in the dawning of awareness of what this will mean: the recognition of the scale of required changes to the transmission network. A recent story concerned the proposal to build out a new and improved trans-European transmission network to allow transfers in the EU.

The latest proposal in this vein is reported on in the Telegraph today:

The plans are vital for a string of new turbine fields being built off the Scottish coast as part of efforts to quadruple Britain’s wind power production before fossil fuel use comes to an end.

The National Grid said in November that roughly 17 gigawatts of capacity would be needed for electricity links between Scotland and England by 2033, even under a pessimistic scenario for the introduction of green energy.

At the moment there is about 6 gigawatts of capacity, which the industry has claimed is not even sufficient for current levels of output.

Its important to see what is happening here. All these proposals are really belated admissions of the collateral costs of attempting to move to electricity powered by wind and solar. They are never explained as that, but that is what they are.

To have any chance of doing it, you have to manage demand by switching off appliances, change prices at 15 minute intervals, drain the batteries of the EVs you have mandated, and build a huge new transmission network to move power from the wind farms to where its needed.

We may doubt that even with all these measures its remotely possible to do it. We may doubt, for instance, that enough offshore wind farms can be built and commissioned and maintained, or that 600,000 heat pumps a year can possibly be installed. But what is certain is that if you are seriously going to make the effort to implement the Net Zero project, all of these collateral changes, and perhaps more, are what is going to be required.

Home insulation may be a future step. And perhaps mandatory bike ways and bike parking facilities? Who knows. We are going to have a grid which will not even support current demand, and we’ll be at least doubling current demand with the move to electricity.

The only way this is going to have any chance of working is, at the same time as we convert all energy to electricity, to reduce the use of electricity below present levels.

Watch this space as this reality dawns on planners, and they come up with more and more draconian ways of trying to accomplish this.

And watch May and Major fulminating about Boris being photographed in the same room as a bottle of wine, two years ago. Yes, far more important than the real consequenes of the Net Zero project May drove through.

michel
Reply to  michel
February 12, 2022 1:22 am

And I forgot another thing – it is now admitted to be a necessary component of all this to implement per mile charging for the use of the EVs. Assuming they are even possible to use after being drained of power to support the grid.

You see how intermittency, whose importance is always denied by the renewables lobby, is forcing people to change how they live to adapt to it. The costs, both in living styles and in money, are being transferred to the customer. This is effectively saying to everyone, your supply of electricity is now intermittent, you must make the necessary changes to live with that.

If you live in the UK, get ready to buy a multi fuel stove and a generator. If you live somewhere where they are legal and possible to use. Otherwise get ready to be cold while being charged a bomb for cooking dinner and heating your house. And buy an ICE care close to the cutoff date. Because otherwise, get ready never to know when you have enough charge in your battery to drive.

pigs_in_space
Reply to  michel
February 12, 2022 11:04 am

What I don’t get is why you have to drag energy across the place from 300 miles off, when you can throw a few logs on a fire from trees which have blown down in the field next door, or in some cases dig up coal from a coal mine literally 5 miles from the power station deliberately sited there to burn it.

Stephen Skinner
February 12, 2022 1:22 am

“It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.” – T. Sowell
“No one will really understand politics until they understand that politicians are not trying to solve our problems. They are trying to solve their own problems – of which getting elected and re-elected are number one and number two. Whatever is number three is far behind. ” – T. Sowell

griff
February 12, 2022 2:01 am

Germany is not one bit less prosperous for climate action and renewables roll out to date… nor is the UK, with nearly all coal power plant gone.

Alan M
Reply to  griff
February 12, 2022 4:14 am

So what has happened to Germany’s heavy industry, hypocrisy at the highest level
Oh that’s right it’s Griff

Bryan A
Reply to  Alan M
February 12, 2022 7:06 am

Germany also ISN’T 100% self generated renewables. They are tied to a grid to import electricity from non green sources AKA Reliable energy not produced in Germany. Germany also hasn’t gone 100% electrified…Buses, Trains, Trucking, Cars, Heating, Cooking, Shipping and Hauling. Given all fossil fuel uses, Germany is really only about 15% renewable

michel
Reply to  griff
February 12, 2022 4:16 am

https://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/what-german-households-pay-power

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Electricity_price_statistics

If you think having high energy prices has no effect on prosperity, particularly among the poorest in a society, dream on.

Of course it does!

I would find it more acceptable if these drive by remarks contained some numbers, some argument in support of them. But its just assertions which are falsifiable immediately by a one click google search.

Richard Page
Reply to  griff
February 12, 2022 4:33 am

Germany is far less prosperous than it would have been without the energiewende – it could have been the economic powerhouse of Europe, instead it’s just barely keeping it’s head above water. Germany always prided itself on the prosperity of it’s citizens, that they had a good balance of income to expenditure – so why have over 1.5 million Germans been forced to use food banks in the last few years or so? Germany has never needed food banks and has never had them before now – this is the first time in its postwar history that it’s needed them, and all because of the billions spent on unreliable energy to achieve less than nothing.

pigs_in_space
Reply to  Richard Page
February 12, 2022 11:10 am

It also has the highest rate of homeless in Europe, and one of the highest consumer rates of crystal meth amongst other “stave off the anxiety drugs”.
Mums with kids are taking it….cos they struggle to survive.

The mexican drugs cartels love Germany, cos they offload 1000s of tons of drugs from NL to Germany.
There was an excellent program about it on Arte TV recently.

Germany has serious and increasing desperate social problems.

Lrp
Reply to  Richard Page
February 12, 2022 11:28 am

Heavy manufacturing moved to Eastern Europe

Izaak Walton
Reply to  Richard Page
February 12, 2022 2:01 pm

Germany is the economic powerhouse of europe with an economy that most countries can only dream of. It has the second biggest trade surplus (after China) which was over 200 billion US dollars in 2020. Not sure how making 200 billion dollars in a year counts as “barely keeping its head above water”.

Disputin
Reply to  griff
February 12, 2022 8:29 am

Germany is not one bit less prosperous for climate action...”

Do you have any evidence for that? It sounds highly unlikely on the face of it, but no doubt you can quote GNP figures?

Izaak Walton
Reply to  Disputin
February 12, 2022 2:03 pm

In 2020, Germany’s trade surplus was over 200 billion US dollars and was second only to China.

pigs_in_space
Reply to  griff
February 12, 2022 11:06 am

Being as you have never been in Germany, and it currently has the highest electricity price in Europe, what makes you so qualified to do anything other than spew out rubbish about Germany, just like you do with nuclear France?!

LdB
Reply to  griff
February 12, 2022 10:26 pm

Germany just exported all it’s high emission economies to China and how is that playing out for it …. LOSERS 🙂

bonbon
February 12, 2022 2:34 am

Hey Aussies, the London Sun newspaper got it right : a Dodo.

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Rod Evans
February 12, 2022 2:48 am

“Prosperity for the few not the many” is what she was referring to .
She is, and always was a major disappointment. She is wedded to the EU and still champions its right to rein over the UK. In previous periods in English history her remains would be on a spike as you crossed London bridge, that was the traditional English way of reminding people what happens to traitors.
Giving first class security travel around the colonies to those who would undermine the home nation was never seen as a sensible penalty for people like Treason May.

ozspeaksup
February 12, 2022 3:24 am

pity we even let her in!
stfu and go home
shes as bad as Turdballs the ex pm who wont shut up either and d*ckhead downer another mouthy dropkick

AndrewWA
February 12, 2022 3:33 am

How interesting.
Thanks you for your comments Theresa.
Hope you’ve enjoyed your trip to the colonies.
Now jump on your plane and return to the cluster that you helped create back home.
Have a nice life.

Alan M
Reply to  AndrewWA
February 12, 2022 4:34 am

Hey Andrew I think you missed a word after cluster 🙂

Bruce Cobb
February 12, 2022 4:50 am

When Alarmunists say “absolutely wrong”, they mean absolutely right, and vice versa. They just get the sign wrong. Easy mistake.

Rusty
February 12, 2022 4:56 am

I take it she swam all the way.

George Daddis
February 12, 2022 6:52 am

“..“Some of the innovations we’re seeing around climate change for the future, I think are hugely exciting.”

Yawn.
Wake us up when they get here.

J. R.
Reply to  George Daddis
February 12, 2022 10:13 am

I’m reminded of flying cars, and electric cars that are just as good as internal combustion vehicles. They’ve both been “just ten years away” since the Sixties (or maybe earlier).

Olen
February 12, 2022 7:13 am

Openly selling poverty! Who wouldn’t choose that over prosperity. It’s an admission green technology does not work while selling it as goodness in following the Mother country.

Graham Presley
February 12, 2022 8:26 am

The awkward woman, who came within a whisker of being defeated by a commie, and who capitulated to EU at every step, should realise that her grasp of reality and common sense has been found lacking.. People of her ilk should be denied all forms of reliable energy, and left at the whims of her favoured, ungreen, wildlife and scenery destroying fantasy energy. Darwinian laws.

PCman999
February 12, 2022 8:39 am

Exactly, how can we have prosperity if we’re taxed to death and the economy and industry are turned inside-out to support a fad that just leads to trillions being flushed into the sewer for no benefit.

Trying to Play Nice
February 12, 2022 10:14 am

What are her qualifications to make statements on technology?

IanE
February 12, 2022 11:30 am

TM is a mirror reverse of MT.

Gary Pearse
February 12, 2022 11:33 am

“Countries Must Choose Between Prosperity and Climate Action”

Wow I thought, initially, that Theresa had had an epiphany and was going for prosperity! Alas she’s still a designer-brained lightweight political clone. She doesn’t know that if she went for prosperity she could become shoo-in for UK Prime Minister!

Martin Pinder
February 12, 2022 12:30 pm

May was the one who set us on this mad course to net zero by 2050. She was the one who bungled Brexit which she probably didn’t want anyway. A thorough incompetent: what value her statement that you can have both prosperity & tackle climate change?

goldminor
February 12, 2022 2:38 pm

Here is a story of two young men in college who figured out how to make money from the methane that is flared from drilling sites. They have become millionaires as a result. The story reminds me of how part of the reason for the Texas grid failure was that flare gas was banned for use in powering the well heads, such a simple solution. Here is what they did. “Their company, Giga, places a shipping container full of thousands of bitcoin miners on an oil well, diverts the natural gas into generators, which convert the gas into electricity that is then used to power the miners.” … https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/12/23-year-old-texans-made-4-million-mining-bitcoin-off-flared-natural-gas.html

Voltron
February 12, 2022 3:38 pm

F off, sincerely, Australia

Martin
February 12, 2022 4:23 pm

It is summer down here in Australia at the moment so she probably forgot all the people back home in the UK who are struggling to pay their heating bills.

buggs
February 12, 2022 10:47 pm

WEF payroll? Seems a little too obvious that she is searching for her place in the cities rather than the districts.

Crisp
February 12, 2022 11:56 pm

Theresa May is such a non-event I did not even know she was here until I read this. I think you are giving too much air to this oxygen-thief.

Shoki Kaneda
February 13, 2022 3:25 pm

Commonly called a black and white fallacy. They are also fond of straw man arguments and ad hominem attacks.

Mickey Reno
February 13, 2022 4:28 pm

It’s infuriating to see these Progressive Collectivists rise to the top of the conservative party leadership.

Theresa May isn’t fit to travel to Aus. to represent the UK. Did she even consider how she got there, via a jet fuel burning airliner?

Giordano Milton
February 14, 2022 5:10 am

I choose Prosperity.

Gordon A. Dressler
February 14, 2022 5:42 pm

The above article’s first sentence:

“Former British Prime Minister Theresa May scolding the Australian colonies for not following Britain’s lead on climate change.”

That’s right . . . Britain’s lead to self-destruction should be followed straightaway by the former “colonies”, isn’t that obvious?

Matthew Sykes
February 16, 2022 6:57 am

What an idiot, at least Cameron knew this was a crock!

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