China Still Burning More & More Coal

From NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT

NOVEMBER 2, 2021

By Paul Homewood

While western leaders are in a state of hysteria over global warming, China just keeps on burning more and more coal:

Latest data for Q3 shows that thermal power generation (nearly all coal) has increased by 6.7% pa since 2019, based on January to September figures:

https://chinaenergyportal.org/en/2021-q3-electricity-other-energy-statistics/

Thermal power so far this year is up 11% on last year. Total generation since 2019 has risen by 7.1%, and thermal has accounted for two thirds of that.

Wind and solar are up 17.5% and 9.3% over the two year period, but these are increases from what were already tiny figures. Even now, they still only supply 9% of China’s electricity.

Moreover, increasing renewable capacity cannot keep up with rising demand. In the last two years, they have only met 20% of the extra power needed.

If that was not bad enough, new capacity additions for wind and solar this year show no sign of taking off. Indeed, it would appear that new solar power coming online this year will be less than any year since 2015.

We keep being told that solar power is now much cheaper than coal power, but obviously China does not think so.

President Xi may make all sorts of promises about peaking emissions, reducing carbon intensity and carbon neutrality in 2060. The harsh reality, however, is that without fossil fuels, China would now be back in the Dark Ages.

If Xi does not appreciate this, there are many on his Politburo who do and they will quickly send him off to the re-education camps if he stands in their way.

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In The Real World
November 3, 2021 6:33 am

It is fairly obvious the China would not use much wind & solar energy as it is too unreliable & expensive .
It does bring about the idea that the whole Global Warming scam was though up by the CCP & their allies ..

Even if there was 1 fact that linked CO2 to any measureable Global Warming , [ which there is not ,] the amount of human produced CO2 is so small as to make no difference .

The amount of CO2 produced by the UK for example works out at just 1 part per 10,000,000 parts of atmosphere , and if anybody tries to claim that can have any effect , they are plainly lying .

Joao Martins
Reply to  In The Real World
November 3, 2021 7:22 am

China renewables are propaganda to sell their cheap solar pannel components to the fools in EU, USA, Canada, etc.

AntonyIndia
Reply to  Joao Martins
November 4, 2021 5:15 am

On the other side is the ship of fools, the Powering Past Coal Alliance (PPCA). See here the list of ruling parties that succumbed to the propaganda: https://www.poweringpastcoal.org/members

oeman 50
Reply to  In The Real World
November 3, 2021 7:43 am

My guess is they use solar and wind where it makes sense, with the added bonus of propaganda to drive the West in that direction. If you have a place that is remote and underserved, then it might make sense to slap up a few solar panels, or windmills, avoiding potentially expensive transmission lines, and then call it good.

Spetzer86
Reply to  oeman 50
November 3, 2021 11:15 am

Especially if you don’t bother to connect them to the grid. Just have the panels out and the turbines blowing in the wind. It all looks good and doesn’t mess with the grid.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Spetzer86
November 3, 2021 1:40 pm

They can connect them up to all those empty Chinese cities the Chicoms built.

Building empty cities. Now there’s a puzzle.

Reply to  In The Real World
November 3, 2021 8:57 am

I am still trying to figure out why people think that a gas that goes from 0.035% of the atmosphere to 0.041% is somehow some gigantic control knob of climate. There is more argon in the atmosphere than CO2.

M Courtney
Reply to  Wade
November 3, 2021 4:17 pm

Argon is not a good comparison. It is as symmetrical as a single atom can be.
Not many ways for electrons to absorb photons there.

MarkW
Reply to  Wade
November 4, 2021 9:27 am

Because each molecule of CO2 can thermalize thousands of IR photons per second.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  In The Real World
November 3, 2021 10:16 am

Are there wind farms in China? I would think they make more selling them to the fools in the west and don’t need to clutter up their own landscape with them. Solar panels, on the other hand, are very useful items, especially is small applications like pond pumps and garden lights.

posa
Reply to  In The Real World
November 4, 2021 9:14 am

Unlike the US and the West, China shows how to run and expand a modern, industrial economy. This is why China will dominate the global economy and is surging ahead in technology leadership. It’s what the Chinese people demand.

China has 292 plants permitted and 186 under construction. With 2990 plants in operation, the fleet is on course to expand from 2990 units to 3468 in the next two years are so. These are hyper-clean and efficient.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JKJJa-jwK6YpkEQKP2bcENHR2yoS40ur8baQnIXHtIU/edit#gid=581593862

But they won’t try to capture carbon. That’s what China thinks about CO2 induced “Climate Change”

Meanwhile, just this week China announced construction of an additional 150 nuclear plants brining the fleet up to 192… about 100 more than the current US fleet of nuclear reactors (most of which are around 50 years old).

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-11-02/china-climate-goals-hinge-on-440-billion-nuclear-power-plan-to-rival-u-s

A thorium reactor is also about to come on line soon.

With large reserves of coal and uranium, China is becoming energy independent and militarily secure. Wealthy too since coal and uranium are domestic resources.
With a big push for EVs China needs all the watts it can find. Dependence on imported Middle East oil will greatly diminish, with only (relatively secure) natural gas imports from Russia. This is how a smart country plans for its energy needs.

spock
Reply to  posa
November 5, 2021 4:02 am

Im cheering on the Chinese. They will race ahead while the west goes dark, waiting for their windturbines to work.

I think the Chinese have read this book
The moral case for fossil fuels
Alex Epstein shows that if we look at the big picture, the much-hated fossil fuel industry is dramatically improving our planet by making it a far safer and richer place.

Ron Long
November 3, 2021 6:38 am

Xi may be dumb but he is not stupid. He recently announced that China expects to reach “Peak Carbon” in the year 2030. And he expects us to wait for it? China, India, and Russia are out for themselves, and, in some cases, their attention to their population is warranted.

Bill Toland
Reply to  Ron Long
November 3, 2021 6:48 am

Words are cheap but actions can be very expensive. That is why any promises made at COP26 cannot be relied on. After all, a verbal agreement is not worth the paper it is not written on.

MarkW
Reply to  Bill Toland
November 3, 2021 8:53 am

None of the promises made at any of the previous 25 COP’s have been kept.

Reply to  Bill Toland
November 3, 2021 8:53 am

Yeah but Dementia Joe is fully willing to hand over billions of US taxpayer dollars to the UNFCCC as climate aide. Of that “climate aide” half of goes to fund the UN bureaucrats, UNFCC overhead, and their climate soirees. The other half goes to corrupt regimes in Africa and Latin America and NGOs like the Catholic Relief Funds which the Vatican skims its take on.

spock
Reply to  Bill Toland
November 5, 2021 4:04 am

Agreed, I hope they make all the promises they want, sign all the documents they want…like they have been doing for the past 30 years.

Joao Martins
Reply to  Ron Long
November 3, 2021 7:36 am

Xi is not dumb nor stupid, on the contrary. He did not promise to “peak carbon in 2030”: that was what the fools in EU, USA, Canada, etc., wished to think he had said. As a matter of fact, he always promised to stop in 2030 the building of new centrals and factories using coal, which is something very different: one will not build a coal power plant in 2030 to stop feeding it with coal on 1 January 2031! So, the new deadline represents about 30 years of useful life for those utilities. Thus we must conclude that Xi did not lie, all the other politicians and journalists around the world were those who have heard what they wished to hear!

I agree with you: the governments of China, India and Russia are caring much more of their populations than elsewhere (I hope that the Virginia election was the first step in the USA recovery).

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Anon
Reply to  Joao Martins
November 3, 2021 11:12 am

Xi should just repackage it as: “China is committing itself to the long term reduction of available global carbon reserves.”

Progressives, who eschew critical thinking, will never deduce he means burning more coal… and will then measure Xi’s progress by the number of coal mines he shutters. (lol)

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SxyxS
Reply to  Ron Long
November 3, 2021 8:19 am

2030 peak Carbon?
I absolutely believe Xi (especially as this is the holy year of Agenda 2030 and the last year before world ends according to AOC,therefore it fits perfectly into all the other 2030 propaganda bullshit)
The only question now is :
In which year will Xi postpone 2030 peak Carbon?
My guess is 2028.
(in case Xi has any problems with moving goal posts he may as climate experts – that’s literally the only discipline they have really mastered)

posa
Reply to  Ron Long
November 4, 2021 9:00 am

their attention to their population is warranted

Median income in China is n;y about $11,000. It’s even lower– a lot lower– for the working class. If the CCP doesn’t increase incomes,expend opportunities and cut the cost of living they will be rejected and he Party knows it.

fretslider
November 3, 2021 6:39 am

 China just keeps on burning more and more coal

But in [Guardian] reality…

China is cementing its global dominance of renewable energy and supporting technologies, aggressively investing in them both at home and around the globe, leaving countries including the US, UK and Australia at risk of missing the growing market.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jan/06/china-cementing-global-dominance-of-renewable-energy-and-technology

When they say “cementing its global dominance of renewable energy and supporting technologies” they mean the supplies of rare Earth metals, Cobalt, Lithium etc.

Now that FLOP26 is upon us Boris has decided to play Xi’s absence as fear of covid. Because as soon as this feudal fest is over that will be the next thing on the agenda. Reason’s for another lockdown.

John Tillman
Reply to  fretslider
November 3, 2021 7:24 am

US environmental laws make it impossible to build wind turbines and solar cells in America. Also, US wages are too high to compete with slave labor in China.

fretslider
Reply to  John Tillman
November 3, 2021 7:28 am

Most of our manufacturing has been outsourced to China and other developing nations.

That’s how they get the emissions down – on paper at least.

Dennis
Reply to  fretslider
November 3, 2021 9:57 pm

Research UN Lima Protocol/Agreement of 1975.

Reply to  fretslider
November 3, 2021 8:56 am

Exporting turbines and solar panels to the stupid West is simply good economic business for China. Those solar PV panels and wind turbines are created from mountains of coal.

fretslider
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
November 3, 2021 9:31 am

I did say that’s how they get the emissions down

Tom Halla
November 3, 2021 6:43 am

I think Xi is sufficiently unsure of his country’s stability if the power goes down, so attempting to virtue signal would come at much too high a cost.

Joao Martins
Reply to  Tom Halla
November 3, 2021 7:41 am

I agree. Good governance IS NOT virtue signaling for next day’s tv and papers news.

very old white guy
November 3, 2021 6:46 am

Why not, they know it will not change the climate.

M.W.Plia
Reply to  very old white guy
November 3, 2021 8:54 am

Exactly…”they know it will not change the climate.”

And who else knows this?
I think (IMHO) many, if not most, in the scientific community know this.

The link between climate change and human activity has been and still is advocated as scientific fact, which it is not. An untested hypothesis does not justify action (carbon trade/tax, funding wind/solar power) to combat “man-made” climate change. In comparison to the 4 previous interglacial peaks it is has to be asked why the Holocene peak was colder.

The sun, eccentricity and the planet’s wobbling tilted spin in combination with ocean currents, air mass movement, clouds and albedo are the dominant climate drivers. The atmospheric heat gain from the high-altitude absorption of long-wave IR energy by the anthro CO2 molecule is not in question, the heat gain’s significance is. Emissions will continue to increase.

Thermal (coal and natural gas), hydro-electric and nuclear power are currently the only means to maintaining base load power to the electrical grid, coal as well as being the safest is affordable, reliable, non-polluting and abundant. The toxic issues of carbon combustion are solvable problems. CO2 is not toxic, it is plant food, higher CO2 levels increase a plant’s root size and improve its water retention abilities, thus enabling greater crop yields to feed our super abundant population.  
 
The academic climate community are trumpeting their AGW hypothesis as a harbinger of global climate catastrophe. Forecasting doom in order to develop environmental policies that discourage fossil fuel use and encourage sustainability may be well intentioned but where is the supposed impartiality of the news media? The polar bears as a species are not threatened, they’ve survived the warmer climates of the past (they can swim) and their numbers are increasing.

Fostering a vibrant sense of hope is critical in educating our children, frightening them into inconsequential action in order to prevent an imagined and exaggerated apocalypse is irresponsible. They will have to deal with the real problems of man’s super abundant population.

Funding wind/solar and carbon capture/taxation will only increase energy prices and have no effect on climate change. The world’s supply of oil will eventually be in decline. The demand/supply forces of the market on prices will improve fossil fuel efficiency and stimulate the implementation of economically feasible energy solutions.

Habitat loss/encroachment and inefficient water/land use are fixable problems. Reducing the threat of nuclear weapons and improving human equity remain the greatest challenges.

So what?
 

November 3, 2021 7:36 am

Net Zero Solar and Wind by 2025…..Let De-Windmillization and De-Solarpanelization begin.

fretslider
Reply to  Anti_griff
November 3, 2021 7:58 am

Let De-Windmillization and De-Solarpanelization begin.”

Funny you should say that

“French presidential candidate Marine Le Pen on Thursday committed to removing all wind turbines in her bid to end all subsidies for renewable energy if she gets elected after next year’s elections.”

https://www.hngn.com/articles/238429/20211014/french-presidential-candidate-plans-remove-wind-turbines-elected-amid-countrys.htm

Tom Abbott
Reply to  fretslider
November 3, 2021 1:45 pm

She would get my vote.

bonbon
November 3, 2021 8:35 am

China Foreign Ministry written statement by Xi for COP26 :
https://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/zxxx_662805/t1918354.shtml

before everyone hears let’s go Brandon….

Sweet Old Bob
Reply to  bonbon
November 3, 2021 11:13 am

“China will continue to prioritize ecological conservation and pursue a green and low-carbon path to development. We will foster a green, low-carbon and circular economic system at a faster pace, press ahead with industrial structure adjustment, and rein in the irrational development of energy-intensive and high-emissions projects. We will speed up the transition to green and low-carbon energy, vigorously develop renewable energy, and plan and build large wind and photovoltaic power stations.”

Does ANYONE believe him ?
Nope . Thought so .

Richard Page
Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
November 3, 2021 1:05 pm

The Green blob will lap it up and beg for more.

AntonyIndia
Reply to  Richard Page
November 4, 2021 5:22 am

Sheep like green stuff, and their $hepherd$ told them to so easy for lazy minds.

markl
November 3, 2021 8:43 am

Controlling energy is one part of “Democratic Socialism” with health, transportation, labor, and housing being the other major points. Supposedly they leave consumer goods to the free market but how that’s achieved with the other controls is a mystery. It’s nothing more than watered down promises to get universal buy in from Capitalist countries who are conned into believing Democracy will still be in control lead by the elites who know better. Control energy and you control manufacturing, transportation, and living conditions. Controlling everyone else’s energy puts you in the catbird seat. China’s sleeping dragon has awakened and we’re letting it run free.

Paul Johnson
November 3, 2021 8:46 am

Which has the greater impact in emissions?
a) Buying up all the Chinese solar panels and having them build more coal-fired plants
b) Not buying Chinese solar panels and having the U.S. build more natural gas power plants

Bruce Cobb
November 3, 2021 8:51 am

Confucious (and Greta) say “They can shove their “climate crisis” up their arse!”

Pat from kerbob
November 3, 2021 9:50 am

The Chinese are endlessly pragmatic. They built the factories to pump out wind and solar components for the west.
When subsidies shrink and orders slow they just churn the factories and use the output themselves. They know it provides little useful power, but it keeps the economy turning, and gives them talking points when we question them on coal.
If Cop26 does end up providing $100billion for 3rd world green energy projects and western subsidies resume, China just redirects the useless cheap crap to exports once again.
All along I think their production is flat, they make $$ when they export

Anon
Reply to  Pat from kerbob
November 3, 2021 10:58 am

Short, succinct, well said and right on the money. IMHO

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J Mac
November 3, 2021 12:12 pm

“The harsh reality, however, is that without fossil fuels, China would now be back in the Dark Ages.”
That may be stating the obvious but it also applies to the rest of the developed world as well. And it needs to be shouted into the unreliable energy fanatics ears!

Andy Pattullo
November 3, 2021 12:21 pm

Messages from Mother Nature:
to China- “thanks for the CO2, the plants appreciate it and in gratitude I give you more life”
to Western leaders: “WTF?”

S.K.
November 3, 2021 1:46 pm

if china is using super critical boilers, who cares if they burn coal?
higher levels of atmospheric co2 are a benefit not a detriment.
if you want to bash china attack their human rights record, their theft of intellectual property, their violation trade mark laws, their bioweapons research and use, etc.

please read friends of science’s report “burning qestions” to educate yourself super critical boilers.

https://www.friendsofscience.org/

2hotel9
November 3, 2021 2:37 pm

Of course China is burning more coal, communist c*nts are evil, not stupid.

Dennis
November 3, 2021 9:54 pm

The Cop26 leaders warn that within ten years the tipping point of no return will be reached unless drastic net zero emissions action is taken immediately.

China now 28 per cent of total world emissions can continue increasing every year by about what Australia emissions are a year until 2070.

Alba
November 4, 2021 3:58 am

President Xi: “I have no more territorial demands on fossil fuels”. And there are people who actually believe him”. The spirit of Chamberlain lives on. Meanwhile Boris Johnston flies back to London waving bits of papers about deforestation in our time.

Mickey Reno
November 4, 2021 9:36 am

China is burning more coal, and MEETING ITS Paris climate accord commitment in the process. Remember, they PROMISED to continue burning coal until (at least until) 2030, and then start to cut back, if possible. Of course, unless there is a nuclear war over Taiwan or something, they will need more coal in 2030 and beyond. And unless there is the most amazing revolt and overthrow of an authoritarian regime, the one party system in China will enjoy 99.7% approval from its people, and everything that regime spouts about climate change will be intended to play the West, to make the West feel guilty, and cripple itself economically and spiritually, as we’re doing now.

spock
November 5, 2021 3:58 am

The moral case for fossil fuels

Alex Epstein shows how the much-hated fossil fuel industry is dramatically improving our planet by making it a far safer and richer place.

spock
November 7, 2021 9:43 pm

To China on coal, Burn baby…burn!

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