Putin Trolls Germany

From NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW

OCTOBER 4, 2021

By Paul Homewood

h/t Joe Public

This was Putin back in 2010, very funny, but also highly prescient.

While Europe is cursing him now, they only have themselves to blame for continuing to demonize his gas and oil :

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Dennis
October 5, 2021 2:09 am

From Russia with laughter.

Where is 007 when needed?

fretslider
Reply to  Dennis
October 5, 2021 4:04 am

#HeToo may well be transitioning…

Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer has suggested the next James Bond movie should feature a female 007″

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/time-female-bond-says-sir-105150345.html

Will they listen? It killed Dr Who.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  fretslider
October 5, 2021 4:38 am

I definitely feel that they need a black trans lesbian Dr Who.

I mean, the whole Dr Who thing has gone on so long, it’s older than me. It’s time to make it disappear.

fretslider
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
October 5, 2021 5:05 am

“I definitely feel that they need a black trans lesbian Dr Who.”

Munroe Bergdorf? Ugh.

No.

It’s time to show the best doctor evah – again

Tom Baker

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LdB
Reply to  fretslider
October 5, 2021 5:40 am

No sorry we need a gender fluid after the current suggestion for inclusion equality.

fretslider
Reply to  LdB
October 5, 2021 6:16 am

That’ll be £159.00

That’s the price of media equality at the BBC

Alba
Reply to  fretslider
October 5, 2021 7:30 am

That was yesterday’s price. As a result of the HGV lorry driver shortage today’s price is £259.00.

ATheoK
Reply to  fretslider
October 6, 2021 9:12 am

I rather liked all of the Doctors before the revised ‘new’ series where they first tried to destroy a civilization that help time travel in their hands.

I made it through the first ‘new’ doctor, then stopped watching entirely when their second doctor started. Haven’t watched it since.

I do have many of the old episodes on VHS or DVD

My wife like the first new doctor for about two episodes before she found things to do rather than turn on the new doctor who series.

BBC really goofed. Not that BBC goofing is unusual.

John Endicott
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
October 5, 2021 7:59 am

No, it has to be a black trans gender fluid lesbian with purple hair and a nose ring in a wheelchair (tick all them woke boxes). Why should the Daleks be the only one to have trouble with stairs.

Phil R
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
October 5, 2021 8:07 am

What abouta trans black trans lesbian?

DonM
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
October 5, 2021 8:59 am

The whole humanoid thing is kind insulting to some of us.

The next Dr Who should be a completely androgynous & non-humanoid, so as to let the androgynous non-humanoids that they may have a reasonable role model.

Without proper role models the androgynous non-humanoids among us feel that they are not wanted and that they do not have a voice … they feel that their future is limited. They need to be represented not only in the entertainment industry but also in politics (with Merkle stepping down, they will have absolutely no one to look up to).

OK S.
Reply to  DonM
October 5, 2021 11:02 am

How about a trans mono-sexual black checkered Furry? With a surgical mask?

Eric Vieira
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
October 5, 2021 2:49 pm

Or maybe Dr. Woke …

Alba
Reply to  fretslider
October 5, 2021 7:29 am

Starmer says it’s wrong to say that a woman has a cervix. So any man can play James Bond just so long as he says that he identifies as a woman.

Nick Graves
Reply to  Alba
October 5, 2021 9:46 am

Soo…if Dr WTF has had a full hysterectomy, then she weighs the same as a duck and is made of wood?

And therefore…

Starmer’s a WITCH!!!

Steve Z
Reply to  fretslider
October 5, 2021 10:50 am

Better yet, give Anthony Fauci a hairless cat so he can star in the next Dr. Evil movie. After he funded the gain-of-function research on COVID in China so it could kill hundreds of thousands of Americans, hasn’t he become Dr. Evil?

ATheoK
Reply to  Steve Z
October 6, 2021 9:15 am

A raspy coughing sneezy dripping nose CGI cat.

Alex
October 5, 2021 2:28 am

I read it
“Putin’s trolls in Germany”

John Endicott
Reply to  Alex
October 5, 2021 8:00 am

Those aren’t trolls, they’re puppets.

fretslider
October 5, 2021 2:44 am

The political elites in the West are all bonkers. The UK is facing a harsh winter with the utterly stupid ‘just in time’ gas delivery system. Putin has the upper hand and will use it; it doesn’t have to be that way.

The British Geological Survey has estimated that there is likely to be some 40 trillion cubic metres (1,300 trillion cubic feet) of shale gas in the ground. In 2018 the UK consumed ~2.98 tcf

Fracking will not be allowed to proceed in England, the government has announced today, following the publication of new scientific analysis.”
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-ends-support-for-fracking

So, we’re kind of stuck with very high prices for what we can import.

Like I said, they’re all quite mad.

Reply to  fretslider
October 5, 2021 3:28 am

fretslider,

There is a very simple analogy from biology that I use to explain the current situation:
A parasite has no concern for the welfare of its victim.

fretslider
Reply to  Philip Mulholland
October 5, 2021 3:58 am

It would seem we have no shortage of parasites; certainly in Westminster.

Conservative
The prime minister has confirmed plans to remove fossil fuels from UK electricity generation by 2035.”

Labour
It is understood Ed Miliband was frustrated by Starmer’s comments against energy nationalisation, Miliband had been keen to keep open the option of nationalising parts of the energy sector to aid the economy’s transition to net zero. Labour delegates passed a radical motion calling for a “socialist green new deal”

Liberal Democrats
Conference further condemns the Conservative government’s repeated delays in publishing its proposals to reduce UK greenhouse gas emissions, which has created uncertainty over the UK’s future intentions and significantly delayed new investment in renewable energy.

It’s a race to the bottom.

Rod Evans
Reply to  fretslider
October 5, 2021 11:13 am

“It’s a race to the bottom”.
I blame the public school standard practices/acceptance of normal, for all this…..
Ed Miliband didn’t even know how to eat a bacon sandwich!

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Philip Mulholland
October 5, 2021 12:42 pm

If the parasites get too greedy, the host dies and everyone runs out of luck.

Steve4192
Reply to  fretslider
October 5, 2021 4:57 am

Boris is missing a HUGE opportunity to make the shift in the north of England from Labour to Tory permanent. Much like the economies of the American Midwest and Big Sky states were completely transformed by exploiting the Bakken and Marcellus shale formations, the same could happen in northern England with the Bowland-Hodder shale formation. All those areas devastated by the shift away from an extraction and manufacturing based economy that powered the UK in the 19th and 20th centuries could receive a HUGE boost from shale, and whichever party makes that happen will have those former coal and steel and ship building towns voting for them for at least a generation or two.

fretslider
Reply to  Steve4192
October 5, 2021 5:09 am

Boris is a globalist.

He gets his orders from the UN – instead of from the UN via the EU.

Richard Page
Reply to  fretslider
October 5, 2021 8:32 am

He doesn’t you know – he gets his orders from the eco nutters within the M25, the twitterati of Islington, Richmond and other green, woke borough’s. It’s about bloody time we saw some evidence of a ‘levelling up’ to the rest of the countries level instead of the widespread dumbing down to the moronic level of some of these retards.

LdB
Reply to  fretslider
October 5, 2021 5:42 am

Makes you wonder if they get that eventually it’s going to end in riots and bloodshed.

Mike Lowe
Reply to  fretslider
October 5, 2021 12:30 pm

Do the votes of those about to die through lack of winter heating count for nothing? Apparently so.

niceguy
Reply to  fretslider
October 5, 2021 5:47 pm

The whole “natgas is a transition fuel” is batsh*t crazy. Transition to WHAT?

Maybe transition to batsh*t crazier stuff (batter sh*tter?) like: Green Electrons to Green Hydrogen

Joe Public
October 5, 2021 2:53 am

Putin’s having the last laugh.

Gas cartoon 3 Putin Interconnector Nord.jpeg
bonbon
Reply to  Joe Public
October 5, 2021 3:33 am

That’s the tap in Ukraine – they cut the EU off a few years ago and siphoned happily.
That game is over, with Zelesky and Poland trying still to stop NordStream 2, which is ready to go right now.
Curiously Poland and Ukraine did not get the memo that Biden gave NS2 the green light.

Greg
Reply to  bonbon
October 5, 2021 7:26 am

Ukraine were stealing transiting gas but are now squealing like little piglets that the countries on each end of that pipeline have built an alternative route free of Ukrainians’ influence.

What did they expect.

Europe did what was necessary to secure their essential supply of energy.

Poland need to STFU, it’s does not even concern them. What are they on about?

John Endicott
Reply to  Greg
October 5, 2021 8:01 am

If Europe was doing what was necessary to secure their essential supply of energy, they wouldn’t need Putin’s pipeline.

bonbon
Reply to  John Endicott
October 5, 2021 8:34 am

You mean they would have taken Pompeo’s offer that couldn’t be refused? ‘fraid that truck is running on empty.

John Endicott
Reply to  bonbon
October 6, 2021 5:46 am

No, I mean they’d have worked on securing their own energy supplies by building up new nuclear and fossil fuel plants, using the coal and other fossil fuels available domestically, instead of closing down such plants and the mines that supplied them and replacing them with unreliable weather dependent forms of energy.

Richard Page
Reply to  John Endicott
October 5, 2021 8:37 am

Exactly. What ever happened to the idea of energy security?

Richard Page
Reply to  Greg
October 5, 2021 8:36 am

The EU are having a go at Poland over their energy issues and who gets to wear the trousers so the Polish are having a go back whenever they can.

niceguy
Reply to  bonbon
October 5, 2021 5:40 pm

“Curiously Poland and Ukraine did not get the memo that Biden gave NS2 the green light.”

So Biden did do one thing that’s correct and sound from each and every POV?
Wow!

bonbon
October 5, 2021 3:34 am

Hilarious – even for wood they will have to buy from Siberia!

Climate believer
October 5, 2021 4:42 am

The incompetence of these people is off the charts, in fact it seems the more incompetent you are the higher the ladder you climb.

Sal Minella
Reply to  Climate believer
October 5, 2021 4:47 am

The Peter Principle

Climate believer
Reply to  Sal Minella
October 5, 2021 12:26 pm

Interesting, I’d never heard of that before, seems totally reasonable to me.

Zig Zag Wanderer
October 5, 2021 4:45 am

And now, sadly, they are giving out (real, not ‘peace’) Nobel prizes for computer modelling:
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-58790160

Nobel is spinning in his grave, and science is dead.

It was concerned a metal alloy called spin glass, in which iron atoms were randomly mixed into a grid of copper atoms. Even though there are only a few iron atoms, they change the material’s magnetic properties in a radical and very puzzling manner.

But the Nobel Committee viewed spin glass as a microcosm for the complex behaviour shown by the climate – on a much larger scale.

Prof John Wettlaufer, a physicist at Yale University in New Haven, US, explained: “What emerged from the committee’s work was the duality between the study of Earth’s climate – which is complex on scales from millimetres to the size of the planet – and Giorgio Parisi’s work.

“He’s building from the disorder and fluctuations of complex systems at [the level of] their microscopic constituents… whereas the work of Syukuro Manabe is taking the components of individual processes and knitting them together to predict the behaviour of a complex physical system.

It’s incredible how they shoehorn this into CAGW.

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Mumbles McGuirck
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
October 5, 2021 5:41 am

Jeez! Manabe discovered that increasing CO2 in global climate models wasn’t sufficient to raise temperature a scary amount, so he invented the water vapor positive feedback loop. Not based on observations but rather on necessity. Now all the GCMs have that feature so that all run too warm. Good job, Skippy, here’s your prize just in time for COP26.

niceguy
Reply to  Mumbles McGuirck
October 6, 2021 7:59 am

Not sure if most people know that the model have that.

For me it was a killer: I mostly trusted the specialists (not “experts”) and the “studies”, but when I heard they had that major positive feedback, I said: nope, I’m done.

I think most engineers (I’m not one, BTW) would do the same.

bonbon
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
October 5, 2021 7:03 am

Spotted that too – it deserves a full thread at WUWT… The Reuters link has good info :
https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/science/manabe-hasselmann-parisi-win-2021-nobel-prize-physics-2021-10-05/

Greg
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
October 5, 2021 7:29 am

Actually they just won “half” a Nobel Prize. Maybe that’s called a Nob-rize.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Greg
October 5, 2021 7:50 pm

Half-baked ideas?

Richard Page
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
October 5, 2021 8:39 am

I saw that – there will be a lot of embarrassment in Sweden when the warming fails.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
October 5, 2021 7:49 pm

Nobel had no idea that the award of his prizes would be taken over by a bunch of Swedish socialists cum Marxists.

Sara
October 5, 2021 5:30 am

I have always viewed Vlad Putin as a pragmatic fellow. Do whatever is necessary to get what you want, and Devil take the hindmost.

fretslider
Reply to  Sara
October 5, 2021 6:41 am

Polonium tea, anyone?

THOMAS ENGLERT
Reply to  fretslider
October 5, 2021 7:05 am

I’ve heard nickel tea is also effective (based on a TV show).

Richard Page
Reply to  fretslider
October 5, 2021 8:43 am

Far too showy and complicated. Should have used the Bulgarian method – ricin in an airgun pellet fired from a modified umbrella.

DonM
Reply to  Richard Page
October 5, 2021 9:21 am

Why be impatient. Go with the long game and put a crapload of lamp mantle in their favorite pillow.

beng135
Reply to  fretslider
October 6, 2021 11:26 am

Na, he just drains their blood and impales them up on stakes.

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LdB
October 5, 2021 5:35 am

Griff wants the UK to become more reliant on other countries …. what could possibly go wrong.

Hey Griff lets see what China is doing about things …. oooops
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-30/china-orders-top-energy-firms-to-secure-supplies-at-all-costs

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Sara
Reply to  LdB
October 5, 2021 5:46 am

A severe energy crisis is emerging in China…. Oooooo! Who’d a-thunk it???

THOMAS ENGLERT
Reply to  Sara
October 5, 2021 7:06 am

No more Aussie coal?

Sara
Reply to  THOMAS ENGLERT
October 5, 2021 7:49 am

And winter is coming on, too!!! And China is currently in a massive border dispute with India, up in the mountains!!!!

However does Xi Jinping manage it all?

whatlanguageisthis
Reply to  Sara
October 5, 2021 10:17 am

This sounds a lot like the plot to Tom Clancy’s Red Storm Rising. (energy supply threatened, so invade a neighbor before the gas you have runs out as I recall) Did he get everything right but the country?

beng135
Reply to  Sara
October 6, 2021 11:28 am

However does Xi Jinping manage it all?

Release an engineered bio-weapon on the world?

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ResourceGuy
October 5, 2021 5:36 am

A lot of large diameter gas pipelines have been completed and started for more supplies to China from Russia. Putin should divert all Russian gas production to sales to China and cut off Europe. OPEC should also slow its production increase plan for oil. Meanwhile Russia continues to acquire investors in Artic oil development projects where there are no protesters or lawyers.

LdB
Reply to  ResourceGuy
October 5, 2021 5:46 am

He is basically doing … did you miss the news Gas supplies to China over the Power of Siberia gas pipeline are at a record and 5% above contract commitments.

Sara
Reply to  ResourceGuy
October 5, 2021 6:01 am

Market control? Yeah, why not? Let the “peasants” get cold and hungry and see what follows. Perhaps the collapse of the Elitist Governance might follow….

Whaaaat?? I can dream, can’t I?

Abolition Man
Reply to  Sara
October 5, 2021 7:02 am

Sara,
The elderly Europeans who weren’t killed by the ChiCom-19 virus can freeze to death this winter as energy poverty mushrooms!
That’ll leave mostly the young and compliant to run, like an oft beaten dog, back to their masters; begging for food, energy, and their next vexxine booster!

Sara
Reply to  Abolition Man
October 5, 2021 7:53 am

I wish I could click ++ twice for what you said.

You and I are lucky (not the word I want to use) that we can control our indoor stuff, but my impression of Europe is that sadly, those people somehow can’t do that. It is disgraceful. And those in the “young” crowd are the most useless bunch of nubs on the planet.
Well, those in governance get the population “bomb” they deserve. I believe this may backfire on them very badly. I sincerely hope that it does.

bonbon
October 5, 2021 7:17 am

Meanwhile a fishy story :

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10060377/France-threatens-cut-Britains-POWER-bitter-row-Jersey-fishing-permits.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&ito=1490

No doubt many at the Kremlin are wondering what Britain is doing to itself, sending nuke subs to Australia, double-crossing France, and heading to a dark cold winter with no fuel.

Sara
Reply to  bonbon
October 5, 2021 8:03 am

From that article, a revealing statement that indicates clearly the sheer stupidity of BoJo’s gubernance – and he really is a guber – ‘If France was to cut off our power supplies, we would just never use them again,’ they said.
‘Why would you ever go back to a provider who did that? Trust would be gone. They would be damaging themselves in the long-term.’

Vlad is wondering what in H-E-double hockeysticks the UK is doing to itself? I’m wondering if there is anyone left in the UK government with a working brain cell.

Richard Page
Reply to  Sara
October 5, 2021 8:47 am

It’s government by the green, woke London metropolitan elite for the green, woke London metropolitan elite and sod the rest of the country. There will be a backlash to this betrayal.

willem post
October 5, 2021 9:43 am

The US and Europe, etc., are eager to commit economic suicide by restricting/eliminating coal, oil, and gas, and nuclear.

Are they off-the-charts nuts?

EXCERPT:

WIND AND SOLAR TO PROVIDE 50 PERCENT OF FUTURE NEW ENGLAND ELECTRICITY CONSUMPTION
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/wind-and-solar-provide-50-percent-of-future-new-england

Energy systems analysts of Denmark, Ireland, Germany, the UK, etc., have known for decades, that if you have a significant percentage of wind on your grid, you better have enough OTHER power producing plants to COUNTERACT any lack of wind available at all times, 24/7/365.

RE folks advocate:
 
1) Wind plus solar must provide at least 50% of the load of the NE grid.
2) Getting rid of the remaining NE nuclear plants
3) Getting rid of burning natural gas, coal, oil, propane, i.e., all those evil fossil fuels.

Fossil Fuels Still Supply 84 Percent of World Energy — And Other Eye Openers from BP’s Annual Review

Coal, 27%; Natural Gas, 24%; Oil, 33%; Nuclear, 4%; Hydro, 6%; Renewables 5%
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2020/06/20/bp-review-new-highs-in-global-energy-consumption-and-carbon-emissions-in-2019/?sh=4714e7f066a1

This article:

1) Provides an easy-to-understand analysis of what would be required for battery storage systems during multi-day wind/solar lulls
2) Assumes “wind plus solar” is 50% of what power producers would annually load onto the New England grid.
3) Analyzes 3 counter-acting strategies; battery systems; CCGT plants; hydro-electricity imports from Canada
4) Assumes a 6-day wind/solar lull is equal to 15% of what would be NORMALLY produced during the lull, annual average basis.

EXCERPT:

WORLD AND US PRIMARY ENERGY CONSUMPTION AND CAPITAL COST
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/world-total-energy-consumption

World energy consumption is projected to increase to 736 quads in 2040 from 575 quads in 2015, an increase of 28%, according to the US Energy Information Administration, EIA. 
See URL and click on PPT to access data, click on to page 4 of PowerPoint
https://www.eia.gov/outlooks/ieo/

Most of this growth is expected to come from countries not in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, OECD, and especially from countries where demand is driven by strong economic growth, particularly in Asia.
 
Non-OECD Asia, which includes China and India, accounted for more than 60% of the world’s total increase in energy consumption from 2015 through 2040.
 
PARIS AGREEMENTS
 
China, India, and other developing Asian countries, and Africa, and Middle and South America, need to use low-cost energy, such as coal, to be competitive. They would not have signed up for “Paris”, if they had not been allowed to be more or less exempt from the Paris agreements

Obama agreed to commit the US to the Paris agreements, i.e., be subject to its financial and other obligations for decades. 
However, he never submitted the commitment to the US Senate for ratification, as required by the US Constitution. 
Trump rescinded the commitment. It became effective 3 years later, one day after the US presidential elections on November 3, 2020.

If the US had not left “Paris”, a UN Council likely would have determined a level of renewable energy, RE, spending, say $500 billion/y, for distributing to various poorer countries by UN bureaucrats. 
The Council would have assessed OECD members, likely in proportion to their GDPs. 
The US and Europe would have been assessed at 100 to 150 billion dollars/y each.
The non-OECD countries likely would continue to be more or less exempt from paying for the Paris agreements.

EXCERPT:

HIGH COSTS OF WIND, SOLAR, AND BATTERY SYSTEMS IN US NORTHEAST
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/high-costs-of-wind-solar-and-battery-systems

This article presents the all-in cost of wind, solar and battery systems in the US Northeast.
Table 1 shows the all-in cost of wind and solar are much greater than reported by the media, etc.

Much of the cost is shifted from Owners of these systems to taxpayers and ratepayers, and added to government debts 

Steve Z
October 5, 2021 11:00 am

If Biden was smart, he’d encourage the construction of LNG export terminals along the east coast, to ship some of the Marcellus Shale gas to Europe to keep them warm if Putin cuts off the gas. This would re-unite the NATO countries into a natural-gas alliance as a counterweight to Putin’s aggression in Ukraine.

Even though this would make sense, it’s about as realistic as unicorn farts. Biden just isn’t smart, or he’s intentionally trying to weaken our country, by killing OUR pipelines and building pipelines from Russia to Germany!

niceguy
Reply to  Steve Z
October 5, 2021 11:25 am

To: Americans
From: Europe

Europe’s pipes are none of your business. Stop interfering, or else.

DonM
Reply to  niceguy
October 5, 2021 3:57 pm

… or else … our new supplier of the evil fossil energy will charge us more than market and use the money to leverage us in other areas; and we will like it because we will get to leave our coal and gas in the ground where it can’t harm anyone or anything (thank God).

niceguy
Reply to  DonM
October 5, 2021 5:26 pm

Lololol
You truly believed that Putin/Russia/Gazprom is only NOW (or recently) supplying fossil fuel to Europe?

Dependency on imports of low energy density fluid is an issue but not a new issue. It’s more an issue thanks to fission plant and coal plant closure (under EU, UN pressure).

(Also we have a medical isotope issue; a long running issue but Europe was pressured by clueless Nobel recipients (and Obama) to stop HEU use “because proliferation”.)

Dave Fair
Reply to  niceguy
October 5, 2021 8:01 pm

To: Americans
From: Europe

No thank-you for saving us from Germany twice and Russia once. Stay out of our rush to set it up so Russia will try again. Remember the Atlantic Alliance, however, when we need bailing out in the future.

niceguy
Reply to  Dave Fair
October 6, 2021 7:12 am

Do you believe that HEU is a proliferation risk? (compared to LEU)

Dave Fair
Reply to  niceguy
October 6, 2021 3:13 pm

What does the enrichment of uranium and proliferation risk have to do with Russia’s relations with the EU? Anyway, the nuclear genie has been out of the bottle since 1945 and anti-proliferation is a joke.

niceguy
Reply to  Dave Fair
October 6, 2021 6:54 pm

Obama pressured Europe to stop all HEU work and now the US is stealing French subs exports… that’s a slap in the face. Europe needs to grow a pair!

beng135
Reply to  niceguy
October 6, 2021 11:32 am

Europe’s pipes are none of your business.

They’re Russia’s business?

Richard Page
Reply to  Steve Z
October 5, 2021 12:09 pm

As I recall, US Congress under Trump gave the go-ahead for LNG exports by tanker – Cheniere being the first company to really ramp up exports. By 2018-20, exports exceeded imports and USA is now the 3rd biggest exporter of LNG, and could become no.1 if the trend continues past 2023. However, customers and the Industry itself have zero confidence that Biden will allow that to happen so are being quite cautious at the moment, with the knock-on effect that Russian sales are increasing to compensate.

niceguy
Reply to  Richard Page
October 5, 2021 5:35 pm

Why would people pay for boats when they have pipes?
(Even if they are pro US)

Dave Fair
Reply to  niceguy
October 5, 2021 8:03 pm

When the pipes come from one’s enemy.

niceguy
Reply to  Dave Fair
October 6, 2021 7:48 am

Since when is Russia our enemy?

Russia is a competitor of the West.
In term of anti freedom measures.
But the US still has the lead for now: Putin is not disbarring his opponent’s lawyers.
For now, as the West is Russia’s inspiration.

DonM
Reply to  niceguy
October 6, 2021 4:12 pm

When, in comparison of all costs, the boats are a better deal.

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