CFACT: Joe Biden Waving from the Steps of a Private Jet

The Guardian Accuses the Biden Administration of Climate Denial

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

The Biden Administration’s appeal for OPEC to pump more oil to keep gasoline affordable has drawn rare criticism from The Guardian.

Are you in denial? Because it’s not just anti-vaxxers and climate sceptics

Jonathan Freedland
Sat 14 Aug 2021 01.55 AEST

To accept the facts about climate science without changing the way we live is also to deny reality

t’s easy to laugh at the anti-vaccine movement, and this week they made it easier still. Hundreds of protesters tried to storm Television Centre in west London, apparently unaware that they were not at the headquarters of the BBC or its news operation – which they blame for brainwashing the British public – but at a building vacated by the corporation eight years ago and which now consists of luxury flats and daytime TV studios. If only they’d done their own research.

On the same day that Piers and the placard wavers were out in force in White City, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change delivered its report on the state of our planet. It was its starkest warning yet. The UN secretary general, António Guterres, called it a “code red for humanity”, adding that the “alarm bells are deafening”. The IPCC found that sea level is rising, the polar ice is melting, there are floods, droughts and heatwaves and that human activity is “unequivocally” the cause.

Now, there are some who still deny this plain truth, the same way that some insist coronavirus is a “plandemic” hatched by Bill Gates or caused by 5G phone masts or aliens. Both those groups are guilty of cognitive denial, failing to update their beliefs in the light of the evidence.

But there is another form of denial, what the philosopher Quassim Cassam calls “behavioural or practical denialism”. This is the mindset that accepts the science marshalled by the IPCC – it hears the alarm bell ringing – but still does not change its behaviour. It can operate at the level of governments: note the White House official who on Wednesday urged global oil producers to open up the taps and increase production, so that hard-pressed US motorists can buy gasoline more cheaply. And it lives in individuals, too, in the fatalism that says one person can do nothing to halt a planetary emergency, so you might as well shrug and move on. Which is “to act in the same way as if you were a climate change denier,” says Cassam. “The practical upshot is the same.”

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/13/denial-anti-vaxxers-climate-sceptics

It is nice The Guardian has noticed the rank hypocrisy of establishment activists, but they should have been there from day one. In my opinion, The Guardian, in their desperation to achieve their cherished social goals, has given an easy ride to hypocrites who say what the Guardian wants to hear, but has ignored or discounted actions which in my opinion demonstrate utter contempt for the values and beliefs Guardian authors publicly promote.

People like million air mile John Kerry, Obama’s alleged super spreader maskless birthday party, Biden’s luxury private jet use, Fauci going maskless, while pushing mask mandates, California Governor Gavin Newsom’s French Laundry hypocrisy, Nancy Pelosi’s rule busting hair appointment, or British Government ministers showing contempt for their own Covid quarantine rules, our woke leaders have been getting away far too long with granting themselves exceptions or just plain ignoring the rules the rest of us are expected to follow, with minimal criticism from mainstream media outlets like The Guardian.

Note The Guardian article mentioned a recent sting video in which anti-vaccine mandate protestor Piers Corbyn appears to accept a £10,000 bribe from what he thought was an Astra-Zeneca investor to exclude their product from his campaign. Corbyn claims the video is misleading. My opinion – the clip where Corbyn appears to accept the bribe is suspiciously brief. I strongly suspect the footage the sting orchestrators clipped from this crucial moment in their video was Corbyn re-iterating his condition of acceptance, that the donation would not influence how he conducts his campaign.

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Scissor
August 14, 2021 6:06 pm

A bigger concern might be giving the Taliban an air force.

niceguy
Reply to  Scissor
August 14, 2021 10:35 pm

On purpose?

Walter Pate
Reply to  niceguy
August 15, 2021 12:17 am

If you listen to darksecretplace.com Bryan Suits today spells out the folly of the incompetent Afghan “Army” not at least disabling weapons and aircraft before running away. But as dementia Joe said: They (the Afghan “Army”) is equipped as good as any western Army. Now the Taliban are well equipped to help return Afghanistan to the 8th century…

Greg
Reply to  Walter Pate
August 15, 2021 12:34 am

The point is valid for vehicles and weapons but I’m sure that US forced did not leave working Blackhawks in the hands of the Afghan govt forces.

They had trouble teaching Afghanis how to man an observation post, I’m sure they did not train them to fly military helicopter gunships !!

Richard Page
Reply to  Greg
August 15, 2021 4:34 am

The USA gave the Afghans 35 Blackhawk’s, many of which are now in the Talibans hands. None of the Blackhawk’s have been seen flying in Taliban service, which may mean they don’t have the spare parts to make them operational. The Taliban seem to prefer using Russian helicopters which, presumably, they can maintain with spares from their Pakistani suppliers.

M Courtney
Reply to  Richard Page
August 15, 2021 7:06 am

But it’s handy for training purposes to have the Blackhawks.
The training of Chinese, Pakistani and Iranian engineers, I mean.

Richard Page
Reply to  M Courtney
August 15, 2021 7:13 am

Exactly – I believe the US military does a similar training and threat assessment program with its OPFOR unit at Fort Irwin. The smart bet is on those Blackhawk’s being crated up and sold to various ‘interested parties’ – the ones with money and access to weapons and ammunition.

Joao Martins
Reply to  Walter Pate
August 15, 2021 1:29 am

Taliban upsurge: what I have been calling “The Biden Effect”. Just as islamic warfare in Africa (North of Mozambique, for instance). When Trump used “the mother of all conventional bombs” things got quieter and stayed quiet (more or less).

And, of course, it will continue… keep your eyes on the Middle East.

niceguy
Reply to  Joao Martins
August 15, 2021 6:34 am

When Trump used “the mother of all conventional bombs”

I remember the anger of American critics: disproportional they said, also “too costly“. They seemed to care about taxpayers footing the bill, for 5 minutes.

Joao Martins
Reply to  niceguy
August 15, 2021 11:16 am

Yes, and I remember the outrage of the “civilized” and well educated, democratic, etc., Europeans. It is easy when we are in Berlin or Brussels to say that things in Afghanistan should be settlesd “peacefuly”, through “dialogue”, etc. Actually, as Biden is now saying, that the government should “negotiate” with the taliban…

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niceguy
Reply to  Joao Martins
August 15, 2021 6:05 pm

Biden politely asked the Talibans to go slowly.
But it isn’t the end of the story.
Next time, he’ll use his “soft voice”.

doc
Reply to  niceguy
August 23, 2021 10:01 pm

He forgot to say “Please”

Tom Abbott
Reply to  niceguy
August 15, 2021 2:36 pm

All the critics cared about was trashing Trump.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Joao Martins
August 15, 2021 2:35 pm

“And, of course, it will continue… keep your eyes on the Middle East.”

That’s right. The Bad Guys are on the move now. They don’t see Biden as being a big obstacle to their aims.

Iran is close to getting enough enriched uranium to start building nuclear weapons, helped along by Obama-Biden policies, and Israel is not going to sit still while the Mad Mullahs prepare to nuke Israel, so we can expect a pre-emptive strike at some point, which will escalate into a major war in the Middle East.

Israel should hit the Mad Mullahs with a maximum effort at the proper time.

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  Scissor
August 14, 2021 11:43 pm

I wonder what they would do at prayer time?

Vincent Causey
Reply to  Scissor
August 15, 2021 12:18 am

Why should Afghanistan be a concern for you?

LdB
Reply to  Vincent Causey
August 15, 2021 12:52 am

Yeah 9/11 never happened right … what could possibly go wrong in allowing a terror state to reform.

John Bell
Reply to  LdB
August 15, 2021 6:12 am

I thought the 911 attacks came out of Saudi Arabia, not Afghanistan. ?

LdB
Reply to  John Bell
August 15, 2021 6:27 am

So the USA just spent 20 years at war in the wrong country then … I guess lucky they didn’t invade us by mistake 🙂

Does beg the question why do you think the USA was in afghanistan?

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Richard Page
Reply to  LdB
August 15, 2021 7:28 am

No, right country – home to the international terrorist groups best training camps, heroin producers and Islamic fundamentalist violent thugs. Saudi Arabia has less drugs and terrorist training camps, but more oil – oh and a track record of setting up terrorist groups then losing control of them (Al Quaeda and ISIS being the latest).

doc
Reply to  Richard Page
August 23, 2021 10:04 pm

You are conflating the Sunni versus Shite conflict with terrorists

Scissor
Reply to  John Bell
August 15, 2021 6:39 am

Osama Bin Laden went there for their great dialysis treatment.

Richard Page
Reply to  John Bell
August 15, 2021 7:22 am

Al Quaeda was initially set up, trained and supported by the Saudi’s, then by the CIA on the ground in Afghanistan as a counter to the increasing presence of Iranian or Iranian backed Mujaheddin during the Soviet occupation. Both the Saudi’s and the USA lost control of Al Quaeda who found a partner and training provider in the Taliban, then ISIS at a later date. Afghanistan is a confusing mess of cross-border tribal loyalties and foreign vested interests at the best of times. Basically, what happens in Afghanistan never just stays in Afghanistan – it has a nasty habit of spilling over into neighbouring states and then spreading outwards.

Andrew Wilkins
Reply to  Vincent Causey
August 15, 2021 3:38 am

Are you not concerned by the removal of a whole country of women’s fundamental rights?
Honour killings?
Stoning to death of rape victims?
Being lashed for not wearing a bag over your face?
That’s one of my many concerns.

Richard Page
Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
August 15, 2021 7:29 am

Like Pakistan, Chechnya, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and many, many others? Where would you like to start?

Andrew Wilkins
Reply to  Richard Page
August 15, 2021 9:09 am

The removal of Sharia law from all of those countries would be a good start.

doc
Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
August 23, 2021 10:07 pm

That is a sure way to garner Jihadi resistance .

Scissor
Reply to  Vincent Causey
August 15, 2021 5:04 am

I don’t know what is going to happen, but I have a grand nephew in the military who is about half way to Afghanistan. A young colleague who belongs to the National Guard has been called up to report to Ft. Carson in November.

Scissor
Reply to  Vincent Causey
August 15, 2021 5:38 am

It appears that this is escalating out of control. This doesn’t concern you more than the Biden’s admins “climate denial”?

As the Taliban advance accelerates, the US is scrambling to evacuate more than 10,000 American citizens from the capital, with officials said to be trying to strike a deal for Taliban fighters not to descend on Kabul until the US can pull everyone out.”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9895247/Taliban-enter-Kabul-demand-SURRENDER-SAS-flown-evacuate-British-ambassador.html

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Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Scissor
August 15, 2021 7:55 am

Plus it is a great opportunity to blame another of his failings on Pres. Trump.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
August 15, 2021 2:41 pm

No, Biden won’t get away with blaming this Afghanistan fiasco on Trump.

Biden is hiden. So is Kamala.

Scissor
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
August 15, 2021 6:20 pm

With this Build Back Burqa, Biden surpasses Carter as the worst President.

John Endicott
Reply to  Scissor
August 16, 2021 3:40 am

I didn’t think anyone could surpass Jimmy (Barak tried hard) as the worst president but Dementia Joe says “hold my, you know, you know the thing”

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Scissor
August 16, 2021 4:27 am

I would put Obama as being the second-worst president. He might still be in first place, if he is actually the Man Behind the Curtain, of the Biden administration.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
August 16, 2021 4:25 am

Blinken and the Defense Secretary should be turning in their resignations over the loss of Afghanistan.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Tom Abbott
August 16, 2021 7:49 am

Both of them are dumber than a box of rocks.

The latest theory is El Pres will try to pin the blame on Kamala.

doc
Reply to  Vincent Causey
August 23, 2021 10:06 pm

The Chinese are very interested in Afghanistan for resources close to home plus the elimination of to only US listening post in Central Asia.

Rusty
Reply to  Scissor
August 15, 2021 2:30 am

The Taliban do not have the technical competence nor access to spare parts or training to maintain anything more than flying kites.

Richard Page
Reply to  Rusty
August 15, 2021 4:40 am

Bollocks. The Taliban have a lot of technical competence – many of them were trained by the US military whilst appearing to be Afghan military. The Taliban currently operate armoured vehicles, helicopters and UAV’s quite effectively. As to spare parts – they have an extensive supply chain stretching back into Pakistan which will give them all the spares they need, albeit of Chinese or Russian manufacture. The Taliban are not peasant farmers with pitchforks, they are a serious threat.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Richard Page
August 15, 2021 2:45 pm

Yes, and their friends the Chicoms will help the Taliban out.

The Taliban have already said it was ok with them if the Chicoms torture and k!ll Muslim minorities in China. Pakistan said the same thing.

China’s leaders are smiling from ear to ear today, as are all of the enemies of the United States.

Just remember, it’s not the United States that is weak and stupid, it is the Democrats in the United States who are weak and stupid. The Bad Guys may be able to play fast and loose for a while, but then things might change for them with a new election, because not all Americans are weak and stupid.

Scissor
Reply to  Rusty
August 15, 2021 5:26 am
Richard Page
Reply to  Scissor
August 15, 2021 5:54 am

Yup. The Taliban have been preparing for this for the last 20 years – they knew the US and International forces would leave at some point. They knew who they could bribe and where to strike first, and had built up the equipment and training to accomplish their goals. In contrast the Biden plan seems unprepared, rushed and disjointed. It’s going to be pretty bad whatever happens now.

Scissor
Reply to  Richard Page
August 15, 2021 6:37 am

Even Rumsfeld wanted to get in and get out. Nevertheless, like so many “crises”, a lot of money was made and people suffered on both sides. I get the feeling that I’ve seen this play before.

Richard Page
Reply to  Scissor
August 15, 2021 7:33 am

The play has had an extensive run – 1842 was the first season, I believe. Different casts but the same location and basic plot.

WXcycles
August 14, 2021 6:06 pm

Yeah, who doesn’t want to pay more for fuel oil?

The ‘Guardian’ … of what though?

Rod Evans
Reply to  WXcycles
August 15, 2021 12:14 am

The Guardian of Doublespeak.

Walter Pate
Reply to  WXcycles
August 15, 2021 12:18 am

Do you have a translator in there with you?

Greg
Reply to  WXcycles
August 15, 2021 12:35 am

The ‘Guardian’ … of what though?

The Guardian of Truth, of course. Or Pravda as they say in Russia.

Joao Martins
Reply to  WXcycles
August 15, 2021 1:33 am

Perhaps that is a good metric of the ignorance of its readers…

LdB
August 14, 2021 6:08 pm

The Guardian seems to be in denial that the majority of the population aren’t willing to pay even a few dollars to do anything about climate change. It’s like many of the Green policies they sound great as long as you aren’t the one having to pay for them. Reality bites.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  LdB
August 14, 2021 6:28 pm

They are also in denial about the fact that nobody wants to pay even a few dollars to read their propaganda, despite their begging.

Greg
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
August 15, 2021 12:38 am

Nobody, not quite. Bill and Malinda Gates foundation has made sizeable donations. I’m pretty sure that Pfizer et al are paying their dues for the product support too.

Joao Martins
Reply to  Greg
August 15, 2021 1:35 am

Yes. Financing from interested sponsors, NOT from readers.

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starzmom
Reply to  Joao Martins
August 15, 2021 5:45 am

Money is fungible. Where it comes from doesn’t matter when you spend it.

IanE
Reply to  Greg
August 15, 2021 5:18 am

Yes the Gates foundation has contributed, but NOT because they want to READ the GroanAid’s propaganda, but because they want to WRITE it!

observa
Reply to  LdB
August 14, 2021 6:39 pm

Isn’t it the job of Gummint and Big Biz to fix climate change with cheaper solar and wind power for our cheap zero emission EVs? Just get on with it pronto and leave us alone.

Chris Hanley
Reply to  LdB
August 14, 2021 9:34 pm

If the Guardian were serious they’d shut up shop.

John H
Reply to  Chris Hanley
August 15, 2021 2:04 am

Still living off a trust fund setup with the proceeds of the sale of Autotrader, still using offshore companies in order to pay less tax. Hypocrites calling out other hypocrites 😉

Graemethecat
Reply to  John H
August 15, 2021 4:10 am

…and founded 200 years ago on the proceeds of slavery.

Bob Hunter
Reply to  LdB
August 15, 2021 12:53 pm

This retired CFO says, it usually comes down to the money. Principles go out the door when peoples’ wallets are affected. IMO, the most vocal alarmist climate change advocates come from regions that have little commercial fossil fuel resources

August 14, 2021 6:10 pm

The Grauniad is even worse than Mother Jones or MSNBC.

Pathway
August 14, 2021 6:25 pm

It’s Griff’s favorite scientific new source.

Reply to  Pathway
August 15, 2021 1:15 am

To read the Guardian is one thing: To believe in it is quite another.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Pathway
August 15, 2021 3:14 am

It is possible that Griff is Jonathan Freedland.

Their rhetoric is eerily similar….

CD in Wisconsin
Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
August 15, 2021 8:39 am

It would of course make sense if Griff is in fact someone from The Grauniad — it would not surprise me in the least. It might be Freedland or possibly one of their other writers.

Judging from his article, Freedland seems fanatical enough about the climate scare narrative to be masquerading here as Griff. But that of course does not prove anything. What would help is if we had the IP address that Griff is operating from.

I have my doubts that either Freedland or Griff could ever be convinced of the serious scientific problems with the climate alarmist narrative.

Zig Zag Wanderer
August 14, 2021 6:29 pm

It just goes to show that the loony left sees anyone who is not a communist as right-leaning to extreme-right

Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
August 14, 2021 11:25 pm

They’re trying to move the “Overton window” even further to the left:
Overton window – Wikipedia

Grumbler
Reply to  Ralph Dave Westfall
August 15, 2021 1:07 am

The Overton window is no longer useful. Lots of ideas seem to be moving from ‘unthinkable’ to ‘policy’ without going through the intermediate stages.

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  Grumbler
August 15, 2021 11:44 am

The Overton window of the megaphone does not coincide with that of the general population. I have had a sneaking suspicion that every item labeled by the news media and their puppet politicians as “right-wing radical extremism” is actually supported by at least 50%, and maybe greater than 60%, of the general population.

TonyG
Reply to  Red94ViperRT10
August 15, 2021 2:59 pm

Overton window won’t matter much if DHS actually does anything about its latest “terrorism” list – which included questioning government Covid measures and engaging in religious holidays or 9/11 memorials.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Red94ViperRT10
August 15, 2021 3:22 pm

Rasmussen Reports, THE most accurate polling organization, says that 80% of actual voting Americans want action on voting integrity. About the same percentage support increasing border enforcement and more than 50% want a wall.

niceguy
Reply to  Red94ViperRT10
August 18, 2021 8:33 am

Many of the observations and policies promoted by “extreme right” Marine Le Pen were the ideas of UDF, the French centrist party and accepted as evident by 80% of the French population in the 80ties. Even her anti immigration comments mirror those of … the communist leader at the time: George Marchais.

Rusty
Reply to  Ralph Dave Westfall
August 15, 2021 2:35 am

The Overton window is already too far left.

Zig Zag Wanderer
August 14, 2021 6:33 pm

The IPCC found that sea level is rising, the polar ice is melting, there are floods, droughts and heatwaves and that human activity is “unequivocally” the cause.

All these things have happened for centuries. There’s no change apart from constant global reporting on it where there used to be very little.

Their conclusion is irrefutable evidence that the IPCC, and the UN itself, needs to be disbanded immediately.

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
August 15, 2021 11:51 am

“…sea level is rising, the polar ice is melting, there are floods, droughts and heatwaves…”

I’m old enough to remember when all of this was just called “weather”. Usually followed by the admonition: If you don’t like the weather just wait until tomorrow – it will change.

Rory Forbes
August 14, 2021 6:35 pm

I’m still astonished at the number of apparently sane people who have willingly donned useless masks for over a year and enthusiastically accepted an almost completely untested experimental drug, without so much as a peep. I guess they’re the same people who have said nothing about the hypocrisy of climate “science” for the past 40+ years. Will they finally wake up after the ‘9th wave‘, triple masking and the 6th round of injections?

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Eric Worrall
August 14, 2021 7:15 pm

the problems have not yet reached a threshold which has triggered their “WTF” reflex.

Does that mean we must endure even worse conditions and follow the directions of even stupider and more corrupt people? Will it take an open revolt before people wise up? Dear Gott im Himmel … what’s it gonna take? The climate scam was evident 30 years ago. This mystery ailment was obvious from about January 30, 2020, the moment we learned its true provenance.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Eric Worrall
August 14, 2021 8:35 pm

Thanks for the positivity. I particularly agree with your last paragraph. However, this madness and the immense effort from the left, waiting in abeyance since the collapse of the USSR and the Deng era in China, is now evident across the globe, in Austrlia, New Zealand, here in Canada and of course all but central Europe. It takes little creative thinking to connect these events with the astounding growth of the internet and its power to control large populations.

Interesting times. I’d love to see how it unfolds, but that’s unlikely to happen.

Joao Martins
Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 15, 2021 1:48 am

Please cross internet with four decades (two generations) of destruction of the education system everywhere, especially the teaching of the sciences (“ideologized”: before the fundamental laws of nature come the environment, “species extintion”, dirty energy, social justice,…). And, of course, of the social sciences (ideologized History, with reinterpretation os “slavery”, the “harmful” colonization of the Americas that disrupted environment and local societies, etc.)

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Joao Martins
August 15, 2021 3:21 am

Yes, Joao, I agree. There is just too much stupidity in the world today, too many people believing that everything they see on the internet is true.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Joao Martins
August 15, 2021 10:08 am

The other day a friend asked me why I always introduce politics into everything we discuss. I said, “if you haven’t notice it yourself, you haven’t been looking.” Of course, he also believes everything the media said about Trump and thinks CNN is a good news feed.

The current crop of students are not only scientifically illiterate, history is almost a thing of the past.

Joao Martins
Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 15, 2021 11:22 am

Yes. As I often say about Bill. Most of them know he is Bill Gates; a few of them perhaps will be douftful, because of Bill Clinton. Almost no one will identify Bill Shakespeare…

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 15, 2021 2:53 pm

“history is almost a thing of the past.”

That sounds like something Yogi Bera would say! 🙂

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Tom Abbott
August 15, 2021 4:01 pm

That sounds like something Yogi Bera would say!

Oh, I do try, but never manage to achieve his mastery.

TonyG
Reply to  Eric Worrall
August 15, 2021 3:01 pm

I’m not so positive Eric. See my previous comment about DHS and terrorism. And people are SUPPORTING it, encouraging it to go even farther.

Scissor
Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 14, 2021 7:03 pm

It’s a loss of mental function experiment. In Philly, the major is calling for unvaxed city workers to wear two masks.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Scissor
August 14, 2021 7:19 pm

In Philly, the major is calling for unvaxed city workers to wear two masks.

You know, Scissor, I’m truly flabbergasted by the number of young people leading the charge toward greater restrictions, passports and mandatory injections. Has no one taught them about human rights. I have no duty of care to keep others safe or free from worry. If they’re frightened STAY HOME. Don’t involve me in their paranoia.

niceguy
Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 14, 2021 11:01 pm

I call that adultism. These childish children want to be adults, so they imitate adults. Like driving drunk because one has seen some adult do it, and believes it’s quintessential adulthood. They have selected the most poorly educated (mis-educated), inane, pseudo intellectual models and they stick to it.
It’s the cargo cult of adulthood. “Some very well paid people say stupid things on TV, if I say the same stuff, I can get paid too.”

Rory Forbes
Reply to  niceguy
August 14, 2021 11:12 pm

Dear gawd, they’ve emptied the asylums and we must now accept their behavior as normal. I guess I’m now considered ‘youthphobic’. I really didn’t bargain for “interesting times” in my dotage. I’m an old fart. All this woke progressiveness is accelerating my aging.

Walter Pate
Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 15, 2021 12:24 am

In California they have emptied the prisons of violent psychopaths in the name of “social justice”

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Walter Pate
August 15, 2021 1:02 am

And here’s the reason why … watch this news briefing by TX. Senator, Cruz … New legislation proposed by the Pelosi and friends

“SHE’S DANGEROUSLY CORRUPT, SHE WILL BE REMOVED” – Sen.Ted Cruz Goes Off on corrupt Nancy Pelosi – YouTube

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Walter Pate
August 15, 2021 2:56 pm

I think they are emptying their jails down in South America, too, and sending them all to the southern border of the U.S., where Biden waves them through.

Joao Martins
Reply to  niceguy
August 15, 2021 1:59 am

Please don’t blame only the children.

They were not born instructed and knowlegeable.

Please blame epecially the grown-ups who have incentivised, and are incentivising the children to “act” without respect from the sustaining institutions of the society (viz., representative democracy). The Gretas are not only the product of their disturbed parents: they are the product of those who have political or ideological influence. All over Europe, you see school administrators and teachers inciting their students to skip classes and participate in Fridays For Future demonstrations. You see everywhere parliaments inviting Greta to address them. You see the Secreteray General of the United Nations to receive a group or a few children (“representing” what?) and treat them almost as heads of state.

Please blame epecially the grown-ups, because is them who are failing their responsibility in educating the children and making good citizens of them.

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Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Joao Martins
August 15, 2021 3:30 am

Good Citizenship is considered racist by many of these adults. Also good manners, so many youngsters are denied instruction in basic courtesy these days.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Joao Martins
August 15, 2021 2:57 pm

“Please blame epecially the grown-ups”

Yes.

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 15, 2021 12:01 pm

Well, anyone who is NOT paranoid just hasn’t been paying attention! My #3 son ribs me about self-censoring my posts on social media with, “What makes you think anyone cares?” Because people have lost jobs, or been declined an offer, based entirely on social media posts. It’s a fact, and #3 son just hasn’t been paying attention.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Red94ViperRT10
August 15, 2021 12:32 pm

I don’t think I’m paranoid, but I certainly don’t trust the same authorities who have been pushing the “climate change” fraud for 30 years with my life. This illness has far too many abnormal characteristics to be natural. The whole plan, from the beginning has been filled with dangerous inconsistencies and intentionally false information to be on the level.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Scissor
August 15, 2021 3:24 am

No surprise that a Philadelphia mayor is making insane demands. I grew up in Delaware County, right next to Philly, and can’t remember a single mayor who was even half bright. One of them actually blew up a few houses some years back in order to oust some radicals who refused to leave.

John Endicott
Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
August 16, 2021 3:55 am

That’s because there hasn’t been a Republican mayor since the 1950s. One party rule never gets you the best and the brightest.

DMacKenzie
Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 14, 2021 7:23 pm

Rory, you are overstating your case….

”useless masks”….mask’s primary use is in stopping the speaking and sneezing spatter of an infected person while grocery shopping or whatever. In this role they are reasonably effective. Assuming they will be effective in a hospital room full of gasping CoVid patients isn’t a good bet compared to leaving the room.

“almost untested experimental drug” Sheesh, you are significantly misinformed….the MNRA vaccines were tested on about 45,000 volunteers. This is many more tests than you get when injected by some random mosquito or woodtick.

So what if it wasn’t a perfect vaccine design and we need a booster for some future variant in a year or two ? I personally find an injection so innocuous that I would gladly take one every few months to prevent catching the common cold if such was available.
As far as CoVid19, I find a free vaccine to be very cheap insurance (and 95% effective as opposed the other relatively inneffective methods that only knocked R0 from about 2.5 down to 1.0) as opposed to a “toss of the dice” probability of 70K in potential hospital bills if infected. You have to be practical.

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  DMacKenzie
August 14, 2021 7:47 pm

It’s not a vaccine. It’s an experimental treatment. Polio, measles, smallpox vaccines are vaccines. Annual flu ‘shot’ is not a vaccine. Even a tetanus shot that gives protection for multiple years is not classified as a vaccine.

John Hultquist
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
August 14, 2021 8:54 pm

These are 2 days old, but they are the numbers for this experiment:
31.1% of the world population has received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine, and 23.4% is fully vaccinated.4.66 billion doses have been administered globally, and 35.85 million are now administered each day.
One ought not get bogged down in word usage. Meaning, is it a vaccine or not.
Another example, the Covid virus is not alive so it cannot be killed. How then to describe its demise? Many think hand sanitizer will kill it, though.

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  John Hultquist
August 14, 2021 9:57 pm

I think the meanings of words are important. The general public would assume that a vaccine is a cure. We have been led to believe that in the past with various vaccines.
We are in the middle of the greatest medical experiment ever created.

Walter Pate
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
August 15, 2021 12:26 am

good thing it works then.

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  Walter Pate
August 15, 2021 12:39 am

What works? The experiment? I’m interested in the final conclusion.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
August 15, 2021 4:08 pm

Then just wait patiently. Hysteria will get you nowhere.

Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
August 15, 2021 1:30 am

The general public would assume that a vaccine is a cure

Are you for real? You must be a Liberal to have such a low opinion of the common man.

No one in Britain thinks that. Its obvious because you get jabbed before you get the disease, not when you get it.

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  Leo Smith
August 15, 2021 2:13 am

I have a low opinion of the common man, but I am surprised that they know they will get the disease before they get a jab.

Joao Martins
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
August 15, 2021 2:27 am

“We are in the middle of the greatest medical experiment ever created.”

I agree!

But even accepting it without ethical concerns, it was made worthless when all the protocols were violated (period between two shot longer or shorter at the will of national governments; no follow-up of the voluntary who accepted to participate in the testing; using other brands for the second shot; etc.).

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Joao Martins
August 15, 2021 3:42 am

“We are in the middle of the greatest medical experiment ever created.”
I agree!”

I also agree! I am not a guinea pig and have no intention of participating in this madness. There is a certain amount of pressure being applied to us in Portugal to show proof of vaccination before eating inside a restaurant or staying in a hotel. The hotels provide self-tests for a modest fee and restaurants are turning a blind eye, especially if they lack outdoor seating. No one wants to suffer further financial loss on top of the closures.

Joao Martins
Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
August 15, 2021 6:51 am

I made up my mind already: no “vaccines”, no tests (I lived during the dictatorship; I refuse to submit to have a file in this new political police force). SAnd thus, no buying ANYTHING where those pseudo-“health certificates” will be asked. Yes, citizens must oppose this madness; but, yes, restaurant owners are also citizens: if they comply and force custumers to comply, they are being police agents. I refuse to enter in any place wher anything more than the infamous facemask is compulsory.

I was born in this country when TB was a real health flagellum but NEVER TB patients were prevented to circulate (unless in certain phases of the disease, when they should stay isolated). I have seen AIDS come and spread, and NEVER AIDS patients were limited in their right of circulation. NEVER was a “health certificate” imposed to the population, even those afflicted by serious, even deadly diseases, not even during the dictatorship. NEVER has the police had such exorbitating powers of surveillance.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Joao Martins
August 15, 2021 7:36 am

More and more people are no longer wearing masks while out walking, I look for this when I am out and about. And I haven’t actually seen or heard of police doing anything in the north about anything related to covid. They do have a presence at the fairs, mostly doing traffic control. But last year they were telling people to pull their masks up. They are no longer taking temps at the hospital I go to. I did forget my mask in the car the other day and walked into a shop without it. My friend who owns the shop didn’t care but she was concerned Police would come in and fine her so gave me one to be on the safe side.

There are still many Portuguese who remember the bad old days and surely don’t want to return to them. Elections are coming…I keep hoping my friends and neighbors will finally all stand up and say NO MORE!

Dave Fair
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
August 15, 2021 4:07 pm

And the alternative is …?

RickWill
Reply to  DMacKenzie
August 14, 2021 8:25 pm

It appears to me that those choosing not to get vaccinated are a dying breed.

I have heard of a few examples now of people changing their tune on Covid being a hoax after fighting for their next breath for days.

There appears to be a rush for vaccinations in Peru – no non-believers there. In 12months to June, they have lost 0.6% more of their population than in any previous 12 month period in recent history. They have 47% of the population also vaccinated as well as those with natural immunity. They are probably close to herd immunity there. Still getting infections but death rate down now.

Gibraltar have their post vaccination surge now under control. Israel still concerning. UK cases down from the post vaccination party surge but still high – daily deaths now just double digits.

It will remain to be seen how vaccines will help populations live with Covid. Still may be best to live without it.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  RickWill
August 14, 2021 8:49 pm

You might want to have a look at Tony Heller’s latest contribution on YouTube, concerning Israel’s efforts to fend off the SARS CoV-2 plague. Look at the stats. It’s similar to many places with spiking infection rates

Bending The Curve – YouTube

The authorities either know EXACTLY what this thing is and there’s good reason to worry or they have no clue and have been wrong from the start. It’s clearly unlike any natural pathogen humans have encountered. No wonder the experts are all over the place.

RickWill
Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 15, 2021 1:14 am

Before you link to silly stuff from Tony Heller, you should do some research.

Comparing Israel and Palestine on Covid proves he has an agenda. Palestine has a median age of 20.8 – half of them are children. Israel 30.8; much higher proportion of population are adults.

Wyoming has a population of 580k. New Mexico has a population of 2.1M. Running weekly average for deaths/day in Wyoming is 1.2. For New Mexico it is 3.4. On a population basis Wyoming is now worse than New Mexico. This is about what would be expected given that New Mexico has given 50% more jabs per population than Wyoming.

Pays to check facts – Tony Heller has an agenda – no idea what it is but it is not factual. He is not presenting evidence but his distorted view.

One concerning aspect is that the vaccines have been oversold. They will not permit complete freedom until the virus is eradicated. I live in an Australian State that has achieved that 5 times but inadequate border controls have allowed roaming spreaders back.

Two Australian States have completely avoided lockdowns or any Covid restrictions other than travel outside the states with need to quarantine on the way back in.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  RickWill
August 15, 2021 3:45 am

On what do you base your hope that the virus will be eradicated? Corona viruses are common and cause upper respiratory infections, humans have lived with them for a long time.

Last edited 1 month ago by Pamela Matlack-Klein
Rory Forbes
Reply to  RickWill
August 15, 2021 9:36 am

I get it, You believe Heller has an agenda, you don’t know what it is, but he has an agenda. You’re an Australian and apparently one of those without a clue about climate or covid. Your opinion of Tony Heller doesn’t surprise me in the least. I’ve spent the last 30 yeas doing research. I’m just pleased I don’t live in Australia.

Scissor
Reply to  RickWill
August 15, 2021 10:48 am

Thank you, Rick, for pointing out the importance of age in risk profiles. It’s been know since the beginning that elderly are most susceptible and the above at least qualitatively confirms this.

Analysis of the Palestine data needs to consider this and there are undoubtedly other factors that could impact what is being observed. The story is only beginning to unfold. The makeup of the cases and deaths in Palestine currently occurring would provide some insight, for instance the percentage of breakthroughs among vaccinated.

It also appears that protection from vaccination wanes in older folks at a faster rate. Clearly, sterilizing immunity is not conferred. That of course diminishes the potential for reaching herd immunity.

The apparent need for boosters after just months raises additional unknowns about ADE and other adverse effects. Indeed, the vaccines have been oversold.

Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 15, 2021 1:34 am

The reality is they know pretty much what this thing is, and is like other pathogens, and it is of course natural, or it wouldnt work. Man may have nudged its DNA sequence, but it is still natural. Corona viruses cause colds and this is a prtaicularlyu viciuous one the human race hasnt encountered before. The vaccines are partially effective at giving the body a sneak preview of it to enhance natural responses.

Why come up with a faux binary choice when the truth is somewhere in between?

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Leo Smith
August 15, 2021 9:54 am

Well, that might be the least rational statement I’ve seen all day (but the day is still young).

Man may have nudged its DNA sequence, but it is still natural.

You do realize that contradicts everything else you wrote, don’t you? Once they “nudged” it, it was no longer natural.

The reality is they know pretty much what this thing is …

Nonsense. There’s a world of ignorance in the weasel expression “pretty much”. This thing is showing far to many side effects, unexpected symptoms and sequelae. They have no clue what’s going on with it. No other SARS infection acts like that.

The human race has never encountered this particular virus before because nature never produced one like it. The treatments are only “partially effective” because we only “partially” understand it and the (vaccines) treatments have unexpected side effects of their own.

Lesson; when we mess with how nature works, with the goal of weaponizing illness, things don’t always work out well.

Scissor
Reply to  Leo Smith
August 15, 2021 9:55 am

The question of the “vaccines” driving viral escape seems to be trending toward yes they do. The question of ADE is open but particularly troublesome.

There is no question now about sterile immunity. It is not provided, and that naturally should lead to viral escape.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  RickWill
August 14, 2021 9:29 pm

It appears to me that those choosing not to get vaccinated are a dying breed.

Yes that, right there, is funny. Probably unintended, but funny nonetheless.

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
August 14, 2021 10:00 pm

I guess after all of you get the covid jabs, I should be safe to travel again. Without having to get the jab.

Joao Martins
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
August 15, 2021 2:32 am

Yes!

Not because you will be protected, but becaue they will have appeased their psychosis and will have lost political/social influence to impose restrictions on your freedom and rights.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
August 15, 2021 4:19 pm

Not if significant numbers of people believe as do you.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  DMacKenzie
August 14, 2021 8:28 pm

mask’s primary use is in stopping the speaking and sneezing spatter of an infected person while grocery shopping or whatever

Wrong, but I’ll let that go. Then why are they mandatory out or doors? I didn’t over state at all. Even Dr. (gain of function) Fauci agrees with me. Masks have no point except for sick people … and they can just stay home.

It isn’t a vaccine at all. It’s an experimental treatment messing with our genes, for an unspecified illness with side effects and sequellae never seen before. It’s a man made pathogen. A sample of 45,000 test subjects is chicken feed for a disease no one has any clue about.

So what if it wasn’t a perfect vaccine design and we need a booster for some future variant in a year or two ? I personally find an injection so innocuous that I would gladly take one every few months to prevent catching the common cold if such was available.

Then you’re a bloody fool. It is NOT a vaccine. Talk about being ill informed. Almost everywhere with the highest rate of jabs have an enormous frequency of new cases.

As far as CoVid19, I find a free vaccine to be very cheap insurance

Insurance against what? Cheap, relative to what? It’s nowhere close to 95% effective if they’re already talking about the need for a third shot. Use your head. They’re talking about new lock downs (ineffective as they were) remasking and more distancing.

The standard test for this unknown pathogen is a PCR test that at the rate of amplification used has a roughly 95% false positive. We’re flying in the dark here, friend and the pilots are all either socialist crazies or certifiably demented.

You have no idea what you were injected with … or what the prognosis will be.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 14, 2021 9:33 pm

The list of side effects of this massive experiment is truly frightening, and the long term effects totally unknown.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
August 14, 2021 10:03 pm

Thank you. I thought it was just me noticing this startling fact. Have you ever heard of an infection even remotely similar? People are still beating around the bush about calling it germ warfare … “gain of function” my ass. This is a “designer” pathogen that was either carelessly mislaid or purposely released by you know who … and those in charge know it. They just don’t know what to do about it, so they pretend.

They’re trying to stop a completely unknown, unpredictable virus with an untested, experimental concoction that alters our genes. What could possibly go wrong? If you’re sitting in an outhouse, mid summer, and can’t smell what’s right under you, you’ve got a problem

Walter Pate
Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 15, 2021 12:34 am

I do believe the CCP purposely released this very contagious but only deadly to a small subset of the population enhanced virus we helped them create to test our reaction. Read “The Hundred Year Marathon” We are in a war with the Chinese Communist Party we are not even aware of…

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Walter Pate
August 15, 2021 1:11 am

Read “The Hundred Year Marathon” We are in a war with the Chinese Communist Party we are not even aware of…

I’ve rather suspected that for some time … I was married to a woman from Mainland China. Communist indoctrination runs very deep, but not quite as deep as Confucian training.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Walter Pate
August 15, 2021 3:16 pm

All indications to me are that the Wuhan virus was an accidental release, based on how unprepared they appeared to be after it got out. They were scrambling hard, building whole hospitals in a matter of days, among other signs.

The Chicoms were playing with the Wuhan virus and it got loose on them.

If one is going to release a biological weapon, one should have a cure or treatment available for yourself, in advance of the release. If one is smart.

Stephen Philbrick
Reply to  Walter Pate
August 16, 2021 5:13 am

I have Pillsbury’s book sitting on an end table – still reading it.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
August 15, 2021 10:48 am

Thanks for the article, Carlo. It’s filled with interesting information. All is not what we’re being told. Surely people don’t suddenly believe we’re being provided with good faith information, especially after what we know happened during the US election (and what was admitted to).

This thing is far from over …I don’t mean the virus itself, but the aftermath. Infections don’t operate in the manner we’re seeing now.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 15, 2021 11:52 am

Peter McCullough is a heavyweight professor from Texas A&M who has the highest number of peer-reviewed publications about treating WuFlu, information that the CDC, NIH, and the WHO have been trying to suppress.

Last summer the WHO silently changed their arbitrary definition of herd immunity so that it no longer included natural immunity obtained from having the infection.

I wonder why.

Scissor
Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 15, 2021 11:00 am

Rory, I agree with all of your points except the one about gene altering.

Theoretically, a reverse transcriptase could do this but it’s not likely to occur with “these” vaccines. Although, I only make this assertion based on what the manufacturers have stated.

I don’t have to go into the outhouse to know that it stinks.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Scissor
August 15, 2021 11:12 am

True, I was just guessing about the “gene altering” part … a stab in the dark. The thing is we don’t know and we should. Useful information is being strongly filtered … censored even. This is information that allows people to make informed decisions. They’re talking about mandatory injections … violating the Nuremberg Code. There are far too many inconsistencies and far too much hustle to do what we’re told.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 15, 2021 3:07 pm

I heard some speculation the other day that the Wuhan virus was designed to throw off more infectious and lethal versions of itself.

I don’t know how that could be accomplished, but that’s what was said.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Tom Abbott
August 15, 2021 4:07 pm

I don’t know how that could be accomplished, but that’s what was said.

I read that too. One thing is for sure. Much more is going on than is being revealed. I’ve observed nearly 80 years of infections playing out and this takes the cake for utter creativity. It’s acting like many diseases rolled up into one affecting different people in dissimilar ways. All is not right.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 15, 2021 4:31 pm

Well, you geniuses, if you were in charge and millions of people were standing in the public squares demanding a governmental response, what would you do? Your hospitals are deluged and the health system as a whole is falling apart around you and the citizens you are responsible for are seriously sick and dying in droves. You would do what every politician always does; grasp at plausible straws and blame everybody else. With modern communications, how would you stop crazy conspiracy movements?

You people seem to believe extremely complex and dynamic problems have simple solutions. And paranoia is not your friend.

Walter Pate
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
August 15, 2021 12:30 am

I’m still waiting for my side effect. The only one I’m aware of is I have a much less likelihood of getting sick. And unless you twist the meaning into a pretzel it is a vaccine. Just check any dictionary.

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  Walter Pate
August 15, 2021 12:41 am

I have. Have you?

Reply to  Walter Pate
August 15, 2021 1:44 am

Yup. I’m double jabbed. No effects that I can tell beyond a sore arm and feeling feverish for a day after number two.

Of course people who knew people who have died from it are much keener to get a jab.

UK is at the heart of global communitaions – it is possibly the most globally connected nation in the world. It has had a pretty high case and death rate. It now has a very high vaccination rate. But it was the case rate that caused the vax rate. Not the reverse.

Certain ethnic minorites were reluctant to get jabbed and started dying like flies. They are now queueing up.

Just because your government treats you like a mushroom doesnt mean that they are always lying to you about everything.

The problem with people who haven’t had a scientific education is that they lack nearly all the tools to tell the difference.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Leo Smith
August 15, 2021 10:51 am

As should be well-known to readers of WUWT, correlation is not causation.

Scissor
Reply to  Leo Smith
August 15, 2021 11:36 am

Leo, really, certain ethnic minorities started dying like flies?

Daily deaths peaked in the UK at about 1700 in late January 2021 when the percentage of vaccinated was low. Daily deaths dropped into the single digits into May and June and began rising in late June to approaching 100 per day now.

Are you saying that there are more minority deaths today? I’ve seen claims that many of the deaths occurring in the UK now are in fact older fully vaccinated people.

It appears to me that immunity from vaccination is temporary or at least wanes and possibly ADE is playing a role in new illnesses.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Scissor
August 15, 2021 11:54 am
Scissor
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
August 15, 2021 1:53 pm

Carlo, that’s sad. Airline workers tend to be relatively young and healthy. They should be doing autopsies on these breakthrough cases to learn something. The lack of inquiry is concerning.

Based on a study out of Argentina, I think many would be better off taking Ivermectin for prophylactic protection.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Scissor
August 15, 2021 4:13 pm

It is sad, and autopsies are not being performed.

It is my understanding that the CDC is not counting infections in people who have received the injections, so another form of deceptive statistics.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
August 15, 2021 4:43 pm

Should I run out and give back my two jabs? What is your recommendation based on that event?

Dave Fair
Reply to  Leo Smith
August 15, 2021 4:35 pm

Leo, you are truly a smart man.

Joao Martins
Reply to  Walter Pate
August 15, 2021 2:36 am

The keyword is “likelihood”. One side effect wil be getting C19; i.e., being not protected.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Walter Pate
August 15, 2021 10:51 am

Just because you haven’t experienced anything (yet) does not mean they do not exist.

How do you know these injections prevent infection?

Scissor
Reply to  Walter Pate
August 15, 2021 11:19 am

Rather, the meaning of “vaccine” was twisted into a new definition. It is what it is now.

Therapeutics that hijacked one’s own cells to produce an antigen inside the body were never used until now. Here are my concerns.

We cannot know what the long term effects will be as the experiment is in progress. To use this technology across the board, especially on the young and children, is criminal.

There is now evidence that the vaccine migrates from the injection site and even across the blood brain barrier. This leads to the spike protein appearing all over the body and within organs that purportedly were not intended to be. It’s insane that the aspirated injection technique is not used to potentially minimize this.

The spike protein was assumed by vaccine manufacturers to be benign but now it’s known that it is pathogenic.

Now, some of our cells and organs are not easily replaced or regrown. Administration of boosters will add insult to injury and more long term risk concerns. There are indications that microthrombosis injury may occur in significant numbers.,

I’ve tried to understand ADE and frankly I do not see how some can say it will not be a problem. Indeed, Dr. Robert Malone, an inventor of mRNA technology, indicates that there are signs of it occurring in people now.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Scissor
August 15, 2021 12:08 pm

Even more important, it has been discovered that the spike proteins attach themselves to blood vessel wall cells. This causes flow restrictions in capillaries which can lead to clotting. The micro clots are invisible to CT and MRI scans, and can only be detected with something called a d-dimer test.

This is in stark contrast to the claims that the spike protein remain only in the arm muscle at the injection site; in fact are transported everywhere by the circulatory system. Because they are so tiny, they easily pass through the blood-brain barrier.

One of the reported side effects is blood clotting which can quickly cause death.

There are cells never replaced or regrown, including heart and brain tissue.

Scary stuff.

Scissor
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
August 15, 2021 1:54 pm

This needs to be studied. The lack of inquiry is concerning.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Scissor
August 15, 2021 4:14 pm

Anyone who tries to doubt the party line via Silicon Valley is cancelled and censored.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Walter Pate
August 15, 2021 12:21 pm

The only one I’m aware of is I have a much less likelihood of getting sick

Or so you want to believe. For your sake I hope you’re right. Some day there might even be evidence to support that belief.

Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 15, 2021 1:35 am

Paranoid rubbish.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Leo Smith
August 15, 2021 8:03 am

No, it isn’t.

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  Leo Smith
August 15, 2021 12:43 pm

I cannot attest to the veracity of anything he said, but simply refusing to discuss it is even more paranoid than laying it out and asking if anyone has any better information. So which one should be locked up and not permitted to speak?

Scissor
Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 15, 2021 10:33 am

There are a number of other valid criticisms concerning the Pfizer “trial.”

A significant number of suspected cases in both cohorts were not confirmed for some reason and excluded from the analysis. They ran only slightly higher in the placebo group.

The demographics of participants did not include sufficient numbers of at risk groups.

The placebo group was un-blinded before the study was complete, effectively ruining the ability for comparing long term effects and confounding protection over time.

The absolute risk reduction of vaccinated to placebo groups was small, around 1%.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Scissor
August 15, 2021 10:57 am

This whole thing is filled with inconsistencies, clear signs of cover-ups and out of left field revelations. People were given injections of two different “vaccines”, now some countries and authorities won’t approve these combinations. Some authorities aren’t recognizing the value of specific “vaccines”. People are being allowed to get a third shot to correct the inconsistent 1st two.

If one sit back and looks at the big picture, warts and all, it’s a veritable dog’s breakfast of bad medical practice. Imagine limiting useful medical treatments because a certain politician lauded their beneficial effects.

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 15, 2021 12:37 pm

…and the harder the gubamint pushes this damn vaccine, the less I trust it!

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Red94ViperRT10
August 15, 2021 12:55 pm

I have experience of both the smallpox campaign and the polio campaign … both extremely effective. I remember the small pox very well indeed. I received four separate inoculations because they wouldn’t take. I have no smallpox scar and I’m officially unvaccinated (unprotected).

If I smell fish I’m guessing someone is cooking stale fish … and boy do I smell FISH.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Red94ViperRT10
August 15, 2021 4:16 pm

When was the last time a government offered free lottery tickets to people getting in line?

John Endicott
Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 16, 2021 3:58 am

“Even Dr. (gain of function) Fauci agrees with me”

Except when he doesn’t. You need to check the weather and the day of the week (and even the time of day) first before saying if Dr (goes whichever way the wind blows) Fauci agrees or disagrees with any particular position

Joao Martins
Reply to  DMacKenzie
August 15, 2021 2:22 am

” ”useless masks”….mask’s primary use is …”

Yes, useless. That C19 and other “flus” spread by aerosols is rather well demonstrated. That aerosolf follow the laws of Physics, also. That sneezing while shopping at supermarkets did not aggravate flu seasons, seems to be the reasonable assumption followed by Medical Science during the last century at least. That the very few studies that were allowed during the current epidemic have not shown any benefit from the use of masks in everyday life is also a fact. (and please mark my words: “were allowed“; institutions, especially those responsible for public health, did not seem to be interested in evaluating rigorously the effect os masks)

As for “almost untested experimental drug”, please read what Alexy Scherbakoff has written here. He has been very concise and just unveiled some misuse of the term “vaccine” even by medical practitioners. The scientific concept is simple to understand but seldom explained in layman’s terms. And other forms of preventive therapies are incorrectly grouped under this term instead of being explained. Tetanus is a good example, diphteria another, and they are not the only ones.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Joao Martins
August 15, 2021 10:56 am

Using a cloth mask to block viruses is like using a chain-link fence to stop mosquitos.

Scissor
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
August 15, 2021 2:03 pm

You can always double up. /s

Scissor
Reply to  Joao Martins
August 15, 2021 2:02 pm

Personally, when I wear a mask, I breath through my mouth to overcome the obstruction. Thus, aerosols evade the nostrils and its innate immune defenses, e.g. mucous membranes and exposure to higher levels of nitric oxide produced in the cavity to attack pathogens.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  DMacKenzie
August 15, 2021 3:36 am

If these “vaccines” are so great then why are Israelis, almost entirely all vaccinated, getting covid now? Their neighbors, the Palestinians, are not getting sick and they are nearly un-vaccinated.

https://realclimatescience.com/2021/08/vaccine-efficacy-in-israel/

Scissor
Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
August 15, 2021 11:50 am

See Rick Will’s point above about the Palestinians and their younger demographics.

Nevertheless, your point about fully vaccinated Israelis getting covid is very important.

niceguy
Reply to  DMacKenzie
August 15, 2021 12:23 pm

Well tested? So tell us, how many got heart issues?

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  DMacKenzie
August 15, 2021 12:27 pm

I am hearing of way too many side effects from this “shot”. The VAERS(sp?) shows more complaints of unfavorable reactions to this(these) shot(s) than all previous vaccines combined, to the extent I would prefer to face the disease than the side effects of the shot to prevent it, especially in light of the statistics that just about every “flu shot” has turned out to be no more than 50% effective, and add on, the last time (1984) I got a “flu shot” my side effects were so nearly identical as to be indistinguishable from the disease itself. I haven’t had a flu shot since, and I’m not taking this one either. I am under 65 and have no comorbidities (given the “morbid” in that word, isn’t it a comorbidity only after you’re dead? But I digress.) that might increase my risk of death if I do catch the dreaded Wuhan Flu, so if I do catch it, I’ll just insist on treatment with hydroxychloriquine and ivermectin and whatever else is in that protocol now (vitamin D? An antibiotic?), no ventilator regardless, and see how it goes. Like the congressman said, if you can read, all you have to do is read and you can decide for yourself. I have done that.

Scissor
Reply to  Red94ViperRT10
August 15, 2021 2:09 pm

Here is a dashboard that makes searching the VAERS data base more user friendly. Unfortunately, it appears to be under attack at the moment. A key point that many have made is that the system under reports adverse events because making entries is cumbersome and discouraged in other ways. .

https://www.openvaers.com/

Dave Fair
Reply to  DMacKenzie
August 15, 2021 4:03 pm

I’m 73 y/o and am in good shape. I get the annual flu vaccine and I take extra zinc during flu season. I take zinc, potassium and magnesium and prescription Vitamin D daily.

I caught the WuFlu last year with no significant symptoms. I got both ChiCom virus jabs early out of a healthy sense of self-protection. I wear a mask only because the VA won’t let me in their facilities without one. I wear an OD green mask shaped like a Claymore anti-personnel mine, with bold, shiny black lettering saying “FRONT TOWARD ENEMY.”

The insane Democrat governor (NV recently flipped blue) just reinstituted mask mandates. I make establishments requiring masks for entry to give me one. I refuse to wear one at the dog park.

To keep Mr. Woodie visiting regularly and to avoid muscle loss, I get a Testosterone injection weekly. My wife has a needle phobia and hates giving me the shots, but she really likes the results.

Modern medicine is your friend; take advantage of it and live better through chemistry. Paranoia will kill you; but do your own research.

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niceguy
Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 14, 2021 10:45 pm

Usefulness (or not) of masks:

Yesterday at active shooter training, we were told that if there was a shooting at our school, we could use our masks from the pandemic to stuff the bullet wounds of the children.

https://twitter.com/booksfightback/status/1426566836028645379

Rory Forbes
Reply to  niceguy
August 14, 2021 11:06 pm

You’ve got to be kidding. Stuffing a bacterial laden wad of fabric into an open wound in a child? Is that supposed to be useful? Who comes up with this stuff? I guess it’s one way to use them … following the theme of spreading infection.

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 14, 2021 11:16 pm

That’s why tampons were invented.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
August 15, 2021 12:00 am

You won’t believe this but that’s exactly what I wanted to say. I didn’t want to risk being too flippant.

They also come in a selection of calibers, I believe.

RonK
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
August 15, 2021 4:35 am

that thought must be contagious

Grumbler
Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 15, 2021 1:16 am

Tampon coated with fibrin glue best option.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 15, 2021 5:03 pm

Let the kiddies bleed to death.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 15, 2021 5:08 pm

In Vietnam combat, we used anything we had. Sweat-stained bandanas, dirty t-shirts, used socks, boonies hats and & etc. Back at evac the docs would pump them full of anti-bodies.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Dave Fair
August 15, 2021 5:46 pm

In Vietnam combat, we used anything we had.

Sure you did.

Back at evac the docs would pump them full of anti-bodies.

Antibodies of what? You sound like an idiot.

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 15, 2021 9:32 pm

You are assuming he was a US soldier. He was with the Viet-Cong. That’s the way they did.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
August 15, 2021 11:54 pm

How would you know what the Vietcong did, Alexy? How would you know what a U.S. soldier would do in the stress of combat with wounded around you? Piss off, jerk.

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  Dave Fair
August 16, 2021 12:00 am

I enjoy annoying internet stalkers.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
August 16, 2021 12:06 am

Says the internet stalker. No attempt to answer my questions, I see. Troll.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 15, 2021 11:51 pm

I goofed and should have said antibiotics. Have you ever been in actual physical combat, Rory? I was in physical combat in Vietnam, won valor medals and got a Purple Heart the hard way. I don’t like your smarmy comments, pinhead. [Rewritten immediately in anticipation of Mod rejection of the first one for foul language.]

John Endicott
Reply to  Dave Fair
August 16, 2021 4:11 am

That you for your service, Dave. Don’t let the trolls and armchair quarterbacks get to you.

Walter Pate
Reply to  niceguy
August 15, 2021 12:36 am

Just do what Dianne Feinstein did to Harvey Milk after he was shot in San Fecescisco : Stick your finger in the bullet wound to check for a pulse….

Scissor
Reply to  niceguy
August 15, 2021 11:54 am

Good to know.

I suppose if the Pope were to shit in the woods, it could come in handy for him also.

Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 15, 2021 1:26 am

I am firmly of the opinion that climate change is bunk, but that Covid 19 is not. Whether masks are effective or not is moot. They are a trivial inconvenience compared with lockdown. Why make a fuss?

You only have to talk to medical staff at any hospital to find out that, unlike climate change, Covid 19, is real and a killer. Further conversations reveal that the severity of cases has slackened way down since vaccination.

With climate change all the action is virtue signalling talk, promises, profitable renewable energy that doesnt work, and more ‘green’ products.

With Covid, the governments moved at wartime speed, and the response has been vaccines that do actually work sold at not for profit prices. In at least one case.

Beware simple binary thinking, just because you are paranoid doesn’t mean they are always out to get you. Just mostly… and of course the forces of globalism will never let a good crisis go to waste. Thet again doesnt mean they constructed the crisis…

…And of course in this case it may well be the case that the Chicoms were out to get you intsead!

Reply to  Leo Smith
August 15, 2021 6:20 am

Now why did that take 6 hours to get ‘approved’?

I didnt know that WUWT was pwned by Facebook

TonyG
Reply to  Leo Smith
August 15, 2021 3:10 pm

“Now why did that take 6 hours to get ‘approved’?”

Maybe because you included the automatic moderation word k!ll and the moderators are all volunteers and get to that stuff WHEN THEY CAN

Scissor
Reply to  Leo Smith
August 15, 2021 8:16 pm

K*i*l*l*e*r is a forbidden word.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Leo Smith
August 15, 2021 8:42 am

The WuFlu kills because the official CDC treatment protocol is horrible:

* perform PCR test, which cannot detect the virus itself and produces false positives — demonstrations have show positives results from fruit juice and even tap water
* if positive, tell patient: “yes. you have SARS-CoV-2, go home and sweat it out yourself, come back when you can‘t breathe”

This is obscene because there are early treatments that are effective.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Leo Smith
August 15, 2021 10:36 am

They are a trivial inconvenience compared with lockdown. Why make a fuss?

You ask why? Because it is far from trivial. It increases the isolation and drastically reduces communication. Something like 80% of human communication is non verbal. When the face is obscured miscommunication is guaranteed.

You only have to talk to medical staff at any hospital to find out that, unlike climate change, Covid 19, is real and a killer

You appear to be getting all your information about covid via the MSM. If you don’t see the bias and the bullying going on to force conformity, you’re not looking. If you don’t see how this thing was politicized and continues to be, you’re not looking.

I’m not the least bit “paranoid”. I’m very observant and very careful. Paranoid describes the people who have followed the draconian rules … walking around wearing a mask while all alone, out of doors in a strong wind.

With Covid, the governments moved at wartime speed,

Thanks to Donald Trump, while the anti Trumpers were telling the world Trump was crazy and xenophobic in his attempt to isolate the source … China. You seem to have a very selective view of events.

Surely you don’t believe that the same governments lying to you for 30 years about the weather and its effects are now telling you the whole truth about this medical emergency, do you … I mean really, do you? Do you really believe that the medical profession can’t be credulous that they research everything? I’ve found they are among the least well informed people I’ve met.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Leo Smith
August 15, 2021 10:59 am

Lock-downs don’t work, this experiment has clearly demonstrated so, witness Sweden.

Just because these injections are heavily subsidized does not mean they are free.

Scissor
Reply to  Leo Smith
August 15, 2021 12:15 pm

What’s happened to you, Leo?

Masking children is damaging to them both physically and mentally.

One of my older sisters is a nurse in Florida and she is more concerned with having to take a vaccine than the illness itself. She is using hydroxychloroquine prophylactically. She’s seen what both the illness and vaccine can do. She’s considering retirement if she can’t get an exemption.

It’s governmental response to the threat of both covid and climate change that is more damaging than the underlying issues. Hospitals are still operating at below pandemic capacities. More young people have died and continue to die from suicide than covid. The false narrative of global warming adds to depression.

Not for profit? Government spending on covid has minted over 500 new billionaires. Moderna’s stock was up 3500% at one point. Pfizer’s annual revenue is up over $10 billion so far.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Scissor
August 15, 2021 12:29 pm

Thousands and thousands of people worldwide are walking away from jobs because of these injection mandates. In France all the restaurants are closed because no one will adhere to the Vichy France-style dictates of the Macron government.

Scissor
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
August 15, 2021 2:16 pm

Are you in France? I’m sorry that the situation has come to this. The willingness of the many French people protesting this is inspirational.

We’ve had only small protests over vaccination mandates. Vaccine passports are only being implemented in very liberal cities, like NYC and LA.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Scissor
August 15, 2021 4:20 pm

No, Colorado. There are tons of videos out there of the massive protests in Europe, especially France and Italy.

Scissor
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
August 15, 2021 6:18 pm

I work in Boulder.

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  Leo Smith
August 15, 2021 12:47 pm

When everyone is out to get you, being paranoid just makes good sense!

MarkW2
Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 15, 2021 4:09 am

Just look at the data. While I very much doubt that climate change is being caused by man-made emissions — the data doesn’t support the IPCC view — there’s no question that the UK’s covid vaccination programme has worked and is working.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  MarkW2
August 15, 2021 10:14 am

there’s no question that the UK’s covid vaccination programme has worked and is working.

That remains to be seen. Hell, we don’t even know the number of real cases. As long as the authorities are still covering up the fact this is a man made pathogen, whether intentionally or accidentally released, is evidence they’re not disclosing other things about it.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 15, 2021 11:01 am

The PCR test for the WuFlu virus is completely bogus, the inventor of the technology is on record stating that it is an inappropriate application.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
August 15, 2021 11:16 am

Hell, the PCR test was never intended for this use, as you point out, but apart from that they’re using a far greater amplification than was intended. It rather looks like the authorities want to make it seem BIGGER than it actually is. Why would that be, I wonder. Isn’t it already bad enough?

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 15, 2021 12:22 pm

Exactly, and this is why demonstrations have shown positive tests on fruit juice and tap water. All it takes is a little genetic material and the rep rate boosted.

There is no way to determine if a patient has standard or delta WuFlu without expensive and time-consuming genetic testing, TMK; the PCR test cannot differentiate them.

Corona virus vaccines in the past have a terrible failure history, there was one that was stopped when the ferrets started dying during the trials.

Dr. David Martin took the time to research the patent history associated with CVs, and discovered that Fauci et al have been working on this stuff since 1999-2002, which is why the injections were able to get out in record time, the problems were mainly mass production.

He is worth listening to (only one of his videos, amazing he hasn’t yet been censored by the U Tubers):



Rory Forbes
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
August 15, 2021 12:48 pm

As you might imagine, I have quite a backlog of priority reading and film clips to view, but I’m grateful for the suggestions. It’s hard to stay ahead of the volume of reading (watching) I’ve tasked myself with, LOL.

As far as cracking corona viruses … I believe they finally gave up on the common cold in the late ’60s as a wasted project.

I don’t know how true this is, but I’ve read that the mutation rate of these viruses is a good thing. Each new variant seems to increase in virility while reducing in morbidity … more cases, fewer deaths.

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  MarkW2
August 15, 2021 12:53 pm

I saw plenty of data analysis showing that in a given region the infection rate, spread rate, any other rate, rose to a peak and then declined, regardless what the population did, whether it was masking, social distancing, complete lock-down, nothing but prayer, and everything in between. So don’t get your correlation confused with causation, UK may well have seen the same declining case rates even if no therapy had emerged that we could even pretend to call a vaccine.

Scissor
Reply to  Red94ViperRT10
August 15, 2021 2:23 pm

Exactly, Red.

That’s the natural course. It’s likely that many of the steps taken at reducing spread are actually counter productive. Too many variable, too many levers being pushed and pulled irrationally.

Since there are animal reservoirs, like cats for example, CV-19 may wax and wane seasonally for a long time.

Pauleta
August 14, 2021 6:50 pm

Any institution, corporation, individual that believes they are part of the “problem” should stop emitting CO2, all of it. Cease immediately. Otherwise, I don’t think their concerns are valid.

SMC
August 14, 2021 6:54 pm

The Biden Regime and the Democrats know they have messed up and are on thin ice. Their globalist colleagues in the Republican Party are also on thin ice. They know they can’t win the mid-terms without cheating on an even more massive scale than we saw in 2020. Xiden’s attempt to raise oil output and lower gas prices is the Regimes way of attempting to salve the populace. It’s not going to work but, it’s what they are trying.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  SMC
August 15, 2021 8:44 am

This is why their top priority in both House and Senate are bills H1 and S1 which cast their election cheating methods into federal law.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
August 15, 2021 3:27 pm

Those new election laws will be subject to challenge in the U.S. Supreme Court.

The U.S. Constitution says State legislators set the election rules for the various States, not the federal government.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Tom Abbott
August 15, 2021 4:22 pm

Yes on both; hopefully the SCOTUS is not blackmailed.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
August 16, 2021 4:43 am

I’m sorry to say that the U.S. Supreme Court actions of recent times does not inspire confidence in me that they will not make a political decision, rather than a decision based on the law.

They were obligated to hear a case where one State sues another State, yet they refused to take the case. The aggrieved States had nowhere to turn. What else will the Supreme Court refuse to do? That remains to be seen.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Tom Abbott
August 16, 2021 1:23 pm

The favorite excuse to punt a case, standing, is not even in the Constitution but is instead a derived concept, TMK.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
August 15, 2021 5:18 pm

It is rather clear in the U.S. Constitution that individual States set their election laws.

CD in Wisconsin
August 14, 2021 7:12 pm

“This is the mindset that accepts the science marshalled by the IPCC – it hears the alarm bell ringing – but still does not change its behaviour. It can operate at the level of governments: note the White House official who on Wednesday urged global oil producers to open up the taps and increase production, so that hard-pressed US motorists can buy gasoline more cheaply.”

Reminds me again of Winston Churchill’s quote about appeasers and crocodiles. The crocodiles have begun eating the appeasers.

observa
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
August 15, 2021 6:22 am

Oh the irony-
Spain launches inquiry after dams drained for profit during drought (msn.com)
Not to worry as hydro is renewable just like burning woodchips.

CK_
August 14, 2021 7:33 pm

Episode #228 (Sea of Lies) of the High-Wire is a MUST-SEE, especially the interview with Catherine Austin Fitts (start watching at 1:18 for the intro to the interview), in which she explains the Great Reset.

https://thehighwire.com/watch/

One bombshell is where she says that vaccines are deliberately being used to shorten lives. (The average lifespan for an autistic person is supposedly only 36.)
She says 1995 was a major turning point because it was the final attempt to balance the US budget. After it failed, the global bankers, who have the true power decided to take over. Isn’t that also the time when USELESS vaccines like the Hep B shot became mandatory? She says one thing we can do to fight the GR is use CASH more often. And of course, resist the vaccines and the Vaccine Passports.

COVID-19 was a PLAN-demic and an utter distraction to enable the Great Reset. I even question if there’s a virus at all- Graphene Oxide poisoning and 5G could be the real culprit.

https://www.orwell.city/2021/08/update-and-invitation.html

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  CK_
August 15, 2021 12:59 pm

With introduction/gene sequencing of Wuhan Flu, all other types of flu disappeared. WUWT? Yes there’s a disease, but was it really novel, or just a renaming of the influenza(s) that have been around since forever, and then politicized against the Trump Administration?

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Red94ViperRT10
August 15, 2021 4:24 pm

There are financial interests in having the WuFlu case count as high as possible, plus the PCR test cannot distinguish between it and influenza.

August 14, 2021 8:48 pm

The Biden position makes sense in the context of the new UN position on climate action that is calling for climate heroism and AMBITION of nation states now that they have failed to deliver the “Montreal Protocol for the climate. In that context, Biden is simply maximizing USA climate heroism. Global emissions is no longer the issue in the new reality of climate heroism of nation states.

Please see

https://tambonthongchai.com/2021/08/13/quora-post31/

Chris Hanley
August 14, 2021 9:16 pm

“… in the US it’s becoming ever clearer that the outright Covid deniers, vaccine opponents and anti-maskers – and the hold they have over the Republican party – are no joke …” (Guardian link).
In the US Blacks and Hispanics are more likely to vote Democrat and also least likely to be vaccinated.
The Guardian itself reported a similar situation in UK in January.

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WR2
August 14, 2021 9:51 pm

I assume the author will be walking to work from now on, and only traveling via sailboat or bicycle? I mean otherwise he is denying the reality of climate change.

Steve Richards
Reply to  WR2
August 14, 2021 11:30 pm

Wooden sail boat with canvas sails and a wooden framed bike with wooden wheels!!

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Steve Richards
August 15, 2021 11:03 am

Don’t forget AOC’s brilliant idea of building a railroad connection to Europe.

Scissor
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
August 15, 2021 2:24 pm

She’s pushing for a stop in Hawaii.

michel
August 14, 2021 11:53 pm

They’re trying to stop a completely unknown, unpredictable virus with an untested, experimental concoction that alters our genes.

This is completely insane, please stop it!

None of the several vaccines in current use alter our genes. This is total hysteria.

The virus is not unpredictable at all. The current variants in circulation are as predictable and as well understood as most other viral infections. Variants emerge, and this is not predictable. But in this respect there is nothing unusual about Covid. It also applies, for example, to the flu variants that emerge every year.

The vaccines (all of them in current use, at least in the West) have been tested by the makers and the results examined in great detail by many different national organizations. Let’s mention only the US, UK, Germany, France as examples.

As just one example, the UK has a certification organization that is independent of the government of the day (the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency) which has both approved the various vaccines and modified its advice in the light of the evidence.

To take one example, it began by approving the Astra-Zeneca vaccine in all age groups, then as evidence emerged of clotting risks it modified this advice to substitute Pfizer for younger people having concluded that the risk/reward ratio made this appropriate.

It is simply hysterical nonsense to call any of these vaccines ‘an untested experimental concoction’. They have been developed and deployed more rapidly than previous vaccines, but that is due to advances in technology which make this possible. Its not due to lack of testing.

Do they have side effects? Yes. I and everyone I know have had two doses of either the Pfizer or the Astra Zeneca vaccine. Most seem to have had no reaction at all. A few have had mild soreness in the arm. One or two had a day’s fever and discomfort from which they recovered without incident. There have been no serious complications in my acquaintance.

There have been some cases of serious complications in the UK, as there are from most vaccines. These are tracked by the UK Yellow Card system, which is well understood, used for all new medicine roll-outs, and is very effective. The number of serious complications is tiny given the scale of the rollout.

Have the vaccines been effective? Yes, obviously yes! To see this, look at the UK statistcs here:

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

What you need to look at is the number of infections and hospitalizations in the different peaks. Do this and you will see that in the present wave, which now appears to have peaked

1) The rate of hospitalization of those infected is far lower

2) The hospital stay of those hospitalized is far shorter.

Let me explain for the analytically challenged, like the poster of the silliness to which I am replying. Right now in the UK there were 5,470 people admitted to hospital in the last seven days. At the January peak this was about 4,000 a day. This is on an infection rate about half that in January. So far fewer cases are being hospitalized.

But in addition, the number in hospital at the moment is about 6,000. At the January peak if was around 40,000, so its far lower. If there was the same ratio of cases in hospital to infections as there was in January, it wouldn’t be 6,000, it would be more like 30,000+

The implication is that not only is infections/admissions down, but also those who do go in are being discharged much sooner than at the peak. And death rates which are also shown on the link given above are supportive of this.

The plain fact is that the vaccines are working, and the UK is a clear example of it. They are not totally eliminating infections, no vaccine does, but they are reducing them, and they are reducing their severity. Like the annual flu vaccine they may not be as effective or effective at all against new variants.

The wild accusations of the post I quote at the start of this are simply hysterical nonsense, have no relation to the evidence, and should stop.

AlexBerlin
Reply to  michel
August 15, 2021 12:16 am

How do you tell that it’s the vaccines that are making the difference? To me it looks rather as if the current mutations (Delta etc.) are simply less lethal than the original one – as BTW would be expected, because the carrier dying means a virus can’t multiply further, so _less_ lethal variants of everything are always bound to succeed and proliferate: The most desirable situation for any virus is when it can multiply and spread without the carrier even noticing.

With full vaccination rates of under 60% e.g. in the UK, and yet hardly any recent deaths although many unvaccinated or half-vaccinated “targets” are still around (currently less than 100 daily deaths “by and with” Covid in the UK, despite approx. 30,000 new infections per day for a whole month, i.e. a mortality rate of approx. 0.3% with 30% unvaccinated and another 10% only partially vaccinated in the population), the newer variants seem to rapidly degrade into just another influenza or even common cold coronavirus like we had them for centuries without feeling any need for lockdowns.

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Reply to  AlexBerlin
August 15, 2021 6:31 am

How do you tell that it’s the vaccines that are making the difference?

Because the balance of evidence shows it is. Delta is lethal elsewhere.

Delta is lethal here, but mostly in peole who haven’t been vaccinated. There comes a time when whatever emotional narrative you cling to has to give way to one that at least does not conflict with the facts, or you die.

You want the certainty of proof – dream on, and read up on the ‘Problem of Induction’ – we are never sure of anything, there is no absolute proof of any knowledge, at all!

The science is never settled, nevertheless some things seem to be true enough for government work, as we used to say.

Covid is as real as any disease and the vaccines are as effective as they claim at preventing it becoming a serious disease. And are exactly as dangerous as they claim they are post studies and results. I.e. about 10,000 times safer than catching the disease.

That’s what the data says. If you want to ignore the data and replace it with religious faith, that is your choice. The Church of ClimateChange Belief is thataway –>

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Leo Smith
August 15, 2021 8:47 am

How do you differentiate between standard and delta WuFlu in a patient?

Scissor
Reply to  Leo Smith
August 15, 2021 12:50 pm

It appears to me that delta is less virulent everywhere by comparing the ratio of deaths to cases in largely non-vaccinated countries. Interestingly, in many Eastern European. mostly unvaccinated. countries there are few cases and practically no deaths.

Your claim that the vaccines are as effective as they say is not true. First, they were trialed with a non-representative demographic; and second immunity is waning and waning more rapidly among those most vulnerable. That is the reason why boosters are being deployed.

Unfortunately, boosters will be just another pony on this shitshow carousel of disfunctional governance.

Walter Pate
Reply to  michel
August 15, 2021 12:42 am

They’re trying to stop a completely unknown, unpredictable virus with an untested, experimental concoction that alters our genes.

These are the same morons that are against measles vaccines & think Autism is caused by vaccines. mRNA has been developed over 40 years & clearly works. Still waiting for someone to show me the bodies…

Reply to  Walter Pate
August 15, 2021 6:33 am

Just because climate ‘scientists’ are liars and frauds, and are paid to be, doesn’t mean that all scientists are.

The massive damage done to scientific credibility by the likes of Michael Mann is something I will never forgive him for.

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Scissor
Reply to  Leo Smith
August 15, 2021 2:26 pm

Back to full agreement with you. 🙂

Scissor
Reply to  Walter Pate
August 15, 2021 2:40 pm

mRNA vaccines are new. I’m not sure what you mean by developed over 40 years and clearly works. Moderna has been around since 2010 and their vaccine is their first commercially released product.

One of the inventors of mRNA therapeutics, Dr. Robert Malone, is clearly in the camp that this technology is being misused.

I had always been pro-vaccine, but now I find myself at least listening to RFK Jr. It’s clear that the pharma industry motivation is less than fully noble.

The CDC is still using the phrase “safe and effective” but I’ve noticed that many ancillary websites and radio ads have removed this phrase.

Scissor
Reply to  Walter Pate
August 15, 2021 3:18 pm

Walter, this story from a whistleblower in Hawaii is consistent with what I hear from my RN sister. Complete fraud.

“I’ve seen 32 elderly people pass away immediately after taking the Moderna vaccine. I’ve seen more patients die from the Vaccine than from Covid.”

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/covid-whistleblower-speaks-out/

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  michel
August 15, 2021 8:46 am

The standard PCR cannot detect the target germ, much less distinguish between the standard and supposedly deadlier delta version.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  michel
August 15, 2021 11:05 am

Correlation is not causation.

What test is being used differentiate between standard WuFlu and delta WuFlu?

Scissor
Reply to  michel
August 15, 2021 12:38 pm

Yes, michel. There is hysterical nonsense all around. I attribute much of this to government agencies destroying their credibility and thus trust with the public. Of course, incidences like the Tuskegee syphilis experiment destroyed trust among blacks in the U.S. long ago.

The long term adverse effects of the vaccination cannot be known at this time. It’s an experiment in progress.

Respiratory illnesses will burn themselves out even if left alone. Cases and deaths of the previous wave were falling even before vaccination was significant. In fact, the appearance of delta may be vaccination driven and is consistent with evolutionary theory.

I’ve done the risk assessment for myself and I believe that it’s a flip of the coin, but my trust in authorities has also been destroyed based on what I am seeing being down to young people and children. I choose to avoid the risk of ADE at present.

Vincent Causey
August 15, 2021 12:20 am

The rumours going round are that the BBC “storming” was staged and peopled by crisis actors. That’s just speculation though. I’m sure nothing like that could really happen.

Reply to  Vincent Causey
August 15, 2021 6:35 am

the BBC has employees who are famous for contacting ‘rent some unwashed’ hard left crowds to make a ‘spectaular’ out of any BBC event.

Greg
August 15, 2021 12:29 am

I strongly suspect the footage the sting orchestrators clipped from this crucial moment in their video was Corbyn re-iterating his condition of acceptance, that the donation would not influence how he conducts his campaign.

They also were not as clever as they thought. To prevent breaking the law by claiming to be investors when they were not, they bought one share in AZ. But they bought it on an on line CDF platform, where you do NOT actually buy or own the shares.

Thus their little scam was indeed fraudulent and they should be investigated.

Last edited 1 month ago by Greg
Reply to  Greg
August 15, 2021 6:37 am

If you buy a share on an online platform you DO own the share. I know because all my shares are held that way and I get asked to vote at the AGMs and so on.
By all means criticise them – they deserve it, but try and stick to the truth

AndrewWA
August 15, 2021 3:33 am

Journalists at The Guardian are incapable of finding their A$$es with both hands.

2hotel9
August 15, 2021 3:44 am

Why would you repeat the lies spewed by Jonathan Freedland?

2hotel9
Reply to  Eric Worrall
August 15, 2021 5:47 am

He has been in denial of reality his entire life. Now the left is denying the fall of Afghanistan. Was just watching video of choppers evacing people off the embassy roof. Biden’s Saigon moment is live on the news, kinda hard to deny that and yet they are.

Scissor
Reply to  2hotel9
August 15, 2021 1:12 pm

I appreciate Australia’s Sky News. The last 4 minutes of this 7 minute video tell it all.

2hotel9
Reply to  Scissor
August 15, 2021 6:34 pm

As I keep saying, if Biden wanted to destroy America what would he do differently. Answer, nothing, he is right on track to achieve all his goals of destroying America.

John Endicott
Reply to  2hotel9
August 16, 2021 4:26 am

I’m sorry but dementia Joe simply is as capable of having goals as he is of speaking coherently. The real question is “if Biden’s *handlers* wanted to destroy America, what would they do differently?”

2hotel9
Reply to  John Endicott
August 16, 2021 6:43 am

He is the one at the top, he is just as guilty as the scumbag leftist a$$wipes he surrounds himself with. His Admin, his plan, his fault. It is piano wire time.

Scissor
Reply to  Eric Worrall
August 15, 2021 1:13 pm

What do you want to bet that Kerry doesn’t even like Ketchup?

pochas94
August 15, 2021 4:27 am

Biden knows nothing about climate (or anything else for that matter). He exists in an echo chamber listening to the noise.

Reply to  pochas94
August 15, 2021 6:37 am

TLDR
I stopped after ‘Biden knows nothing’

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  pochas94
August 15, 2021 1:11 pm

I agree, Joe Biden knows nothing. The only decision he has made in at least 10 years is what flavor of ice cream to get. Now whether all “decisions” are from Jill, or from the whole committee of handlers I mean advisors surrounding him at all times is a little hard to tell. I suspect it’s the latter which is why so many edicts from the dictatorship are contradictory (not only to each other but also to common sense), it’s about what one would expect from a dictatorship-by-committee.

Bruce Cobb
August 15, 2021 4:32 am

Wow. Just wow. Judging from the responses so far, people have either not noticed, or completely fallen for a common trick that the Climate Liars like to use – the illogical argument called Poisoning The Well. They have lumped what they like to call “climate deniers”, (which is itself a favorite argument tactic of theirs) in with anti-vaxxers, or more specifically the morons who oppose the Covid vaccines.
As for the Grauniad calling out Biden for his hypocrisy and labeling him a “denier”, it is both fun and totally predictable when the Climate Liars throw those who fail to follow the Rules of Climate Belief to the letter, under the bus. It also signals the fact that the extremist, anti-democratic and anti-human
CAGW ideology is self-destructing, and in a downward spiral.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
August 15, 2021 6:44 am

The reality is that to people with little or no science education it is simply a matter of who you believe.

The Left is broadly ignorant of matters scientific, so what counts is the credibility of the narrative. The actual data is almost irrelevant.

Sadly this seems to be turning up on WUWT as well: ignoring COVID data in favour of an agenda driven anti-science narrative.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Leo Smith
August 15, 2021 11:08 am

Do you know who Peter Daszak is?

Scissor
Reply to  Leo Smith
August 15, 2021 1:07 pm

You’re right about the matter of belief. People are fallible and gullible. One lady whose fully vaccinated father died of covid was grateful that he was vaccinated because it could have been worse. It could also have been ADE.

Both my older sisters fell for the graphene oxide tail. I tried to explain to them the problems with the Spanish study and its inadequacy. I don’t think I succeeded but they stopped sending me articles about it.

But I also take input from my sister that is a nurse who experiences circumstances in a medical environment. I trust that part of her knowledge.

I’ve been a professional scientist, mostly in research, for my entire career and I am definitely biased against socialism, communism and large government. I can still construct a logical scientific based argument that is valid. Nevertheless, I would happily wear the denier badge.

pochas94
August 15, 2021 5:33 am

It’s a free country, you can do as you wish. However, if you’re not vaccinated by now, you’re on your own. Henceforth, masks in public are optional.

Scissor
Reply to  pochas94
August 15, 2021 12:55 pm

Personally, working within a university setting largely comprised of leftist elites who brainwash and who themselves are brainwashed, I would rather be on my own.

Shoki Kaneda
August 15, 2021 7:30 am

Ah, ideological impurity and zeal insufficiency; the two things leftists fear the most.

Tom Abbott
August 15, 2021 2:27 pm

From the article: “It is nice The Guardian has noticed the rank hypocrisy of establishment activists, but they should have been there from day one. In my opinion,”

Yes, the Guardian should be running articles critical of the Chicom CO2 increases, in their paper every day.