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NPR: Climate Change Anxiety Driving Debilitating Psychological Disorders

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

h/t John Garrett; According to Princeton psychology professor Elke Weber, lots of people are popping pills to cope with climate anxiety, and more people should raise the issue at Thanksgiving – they will discover their entire family wants climate action.

Coping With The Reality Of Climate Change

August 12, 20214:25 PM ET
Heard on  All Things Considered

NPR’s Audie Cornish speaks with psychologist Elke Weber about the way individuals deal with the threat of climate change.

CORNISH: Increasingly, people are dealing directly with the results of climate change – right? – record heat across the country. How do people respond when they’re confronted with the sort of bigness of the issue of climate change? What kinds of emotions can that draw out?

WEBER: It can be incredibly overwhelming, especially among younger people. And so there’s no question that climate anxiety has gone drastically up by contemplation about sort of what kind of world we live in and what kind of a world we might leave to our children and grandchildren. So it’s very debilitating symptoms that oftentimes have to be treated with medication or with psychotherapy.

CORNISH: What’s the effect of seeing governments not act quickly or aggressively enough? Is this something that comes up for people when it comes to sort of how they take in the idea of climate change, how they react to it?

WEBER: In psychology, there’s this notion of pluralistic ignorance – that we might be concerned about an issue, but we don’t realize how many other people are also concerned about the issue because oftentimes, when things are polarized and charged, we don’t talk about it. You know, we don’t talk about it at Thanksgiving. If people talked about it more, they would realize that their concern about climate change is actually widely shared. And so therefore, you know, I think there would be more awareness on the part of politicians that many people in their constituencies, you know, sort of do want them to take action.

Read more: https://www.npr.org/2021/08/12/1027198507/coping-with-the-reality-of-climate-change

Going by the last few election, I’m guessing there are a large number of Americans who don’t see climate action as their number one priority. So I think Elke Weber is being a little optimistic about the prospects that everyone will agree, if true believers proselytise about the alleged need for radical climate action at the Thanksgiving table.

I have no doubt climate anxiety is causing real problems. If you brainwash kids into thinking the world is on the brink of destruction, and nobody is doing anything about it, you get a lot of extremely anxious kids – many of whom embrace self destructive choices like taking hard drugs, or lose their minds to large doses of prescribed anti-depressants. What is the point of saving money, getting a better education, planning for the future, if you believe there will be no future?

I do believe the climate crisis narrative is slowly dying, 40 years of predicting the imminent end of the world due to human emissions is wearing a little thin. But the broken lives and human wreckage will remain, long after politicians abandon even the pretence of caring about climate change.

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Scissor
August 14, 2021 6:07 am

Just hand over your money, turkey.

n.n
Reply to  Scissor
August 14, 2021 10:25 am

Take a knee, beg, good girl, boy, whatever.

Greg
Reply to  n.n
August 15, 2021 12:44 am

girl, boy … could you please find more gender neutral terms. I find such binary role models offensive !!

yirgach
Reply to  Greg
August 15, 2021 8:05 am

I identify as a Climate and I will never change.
And you can’t make me.
Nyah, nyah, nyah.

David A
Reply to  yirgach
August 15, 2021 9:18 pm

I identify as Climate, and change is my nature, so you can’t make me not change. I always have, and always will

Thomas Gasloli
August 14, 2021 6:09 am

Of course these are the same people who are vaccinated and wearing a mask at home because the NIH director said to. The just aren’t functional people.

Mark Kaiser
Reply to  Thomas Gasloli
August 14, 2021 8:38 am

I wear my mask 24/7 and I live alone! You get used to it. Although eating and showering are a pain in the a$$. Lost 20 pounds already.

Reply to  Mark Kaiser
August 14, 2021 8:50 am

Unless its a properly fitted N-95 mask, you’ve probably already spontaneously generated a mutant Zeta-strain SARS virus and auto-infected yourself.

Greg
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
August 15, 2021 12:46 am

It’s OK he’s no longer obese, so no more comorbidity.

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Thomas Gasloli
August 14, 2021 9:01 am

No. Purposeful ideological corruption of the education system over a few generations is bearing fruit. Isn’t it clear that psychologist Weber himself and his teachers are themselves victims of this corruption.

For goodness sake, don’t send your children to a psychologist under 75yrs old. They’re brainwashing will only be metastasized.

The corruption has destroyed any effectiveness of psychological therapy. They are agents of the harm done. When the 18yr Dreaded Pause resulted in career-ending “Climate Blues” of many climate scientists, neutralized psychologists shamefully only enabled their rationalizations.

John Laurent
Reply to  Gary Pearse
August 14, 2021 10:13 am

Gary, you make a very good point. I have worked in organisations that employ pyschologists and have seen some use their knowledge and role to manipulate people. This is called “gaslighting”.
It is a very dangerous form of mental abuse. Combine this with Critical Race Theory and it is no wonder youth suicide is on the rise.

IAMPCBOB
Reply to  John Laurent
August 14, 2021 11:31 am

It’s no wonder violent crimes are on the rise!

Joao Martins
Reply to  Gary Pearse
August 14, 2021 1:17 pm

That is only the expression in Psychology (and other, connected social sciences) of a wider purposeful ideological corruption of the teaching of the sciences, all sciences. The attack front is much, much wider.

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Joao Martins
August 14, 2021 4:02 pm

You are correct Joao. Here is a 1970s interview of a Soviet defector who explains how the Soviets are subverting the United States through education. Start at 1:07:30 for a chilling forecast of what society will be like NOW. He even uses the term social justice! The whole interview is interesting but it is long. I hope it reproduces faithfully!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4364&v=HI9PahRmXiM&feature=emb_title

Duane
Reply to  Gary Pearse
August 15, 2021 4:19 am

Meh … some people engage in self destructive behavior all the time and forever, always have, and always will … just like climate change. There is always a host of reasons or personal despair, if someone is depressive in the first place. Always.

Get a grip, humanity. Nothing ever changes.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Thomas Gasloli
August 14, 2021 9:11 am

No kidding – the constant barrage of lunatic-level induced paranoia has made ‘mental health’ an oxymoron among true believers.
I wish I could say I was immune, but the truth is, I’m now becoming more afraid of THEM.
There is nothing more dangerous than fear-maddened group-think, encouraged by hate-mongering zealots, who believe they can do no wrong and that their own manifest destiny is to eliminate any and all opposition by ‘any means necessary’ – because THEY are the virtuous.

I honestly still have a hard time believing we’ve really gotten here, even though I’ve been seeing it coming AND shouting out warnings for twenty-five years.

Bill Taylor
Reply to  Joel Snider
August 14, 2021 1:05 pm

come on man, they already told us the world ends in 7 years now(they said 12 when Trump got elected) 5 years ago.

Mr.
Reply to  Joel Snider
August 14, 2021 1:56 pm

Remember the ubiquitous “Ban The Nukes” protestors of the 1960s?

When nothing much happened after ~ 30 years of angst, they all just kinda fizzled out.

But by then they had become so addicted to their upside-down Mercedes symbol signs, they took solace in supporting diesel powered Mercs for the rest of their lives.

philincalifornia
Reply to  Mr.
August 14, 2021 3:37 pm

What about Occupy Wall Street? Ha ha. How long has that one been dead.

I think Black Lives Matter is getting its autopsy as I type

….. and Stop Asian Hate was DOA because of the English language issues (more recently, they need to stick to cardboard signs of two words or less if they need people to get the message).

“climate” seems to be the only cancer of society these freaky loonies have left.

Joel Snider
Reply to  philincalifornia
August 14, 2021 4:42 pm

Well, we’ve been in a state of martial law for a year because of covid.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Joel Snider
August 15, 2021 9:16 am

My State has not been locked down during the pandemic. It’s the Democrat-controlled States that are trying to put their people under martial law. I’m glad I don’t live there.

David A
Reply to  philincalifornia
August 15, 2021 9:21 pm

They are making a serious pitch to divide society another way, vaccinated vs unvaccinated.

John Sandhofner
Reply to  Joel Snider
August 14, 2021 8:05 pm

I agree. The greatest risk is they become so absorbed in their paranoia that they believe they need to take radical steps fix the problem. These people can be very unpredictable.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  John Sandhofner
August 15, 2021 9:21 am

Let’s hope the Democrats don’t get to field an army of 1.5 million for their Climate Change Corp, with billions in funding.

We know what these Brownshirts are going to be used for. It won’t be about climate change, it will be about silencing the political opposition.

We just had 19 U.S. Senate Useful Idiot Republicans help this radical Democrat process along.

n.n
Reply to  Thomas Gasloli
August 14, 2021 10:24 am

The Darwin duo: leaky masks and non-sterilizing vaccines.

Rainer Bensch
Reply to  n.n
August 15, 2021 3:18 am

‘Sterilizing’ must have turned into a different meaning without my attention. I know of no vaccine used to sterilize something.

David A
Reply to  Rainer Bensch
August 15, 2021 9:24 pm

It’s a fine word for neutralizing the virus, as long as nobody decides to inject bleach.

August 14, 2021 6:10 am

Climate anxiety does not come from climate change — it comes from climate alarmists like Greta … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPnFlUEIy48

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  John Shewchuk
August 14, 2021 6:24 am

Who should be held responsible as she shouts ‘fire’ in a crowded theatre where there is no fire.

Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
August 14, 2021 7:49 am

Shouting fire is not the problem — it’s how people react — and that’s a direct function of education. The “climate alarmism” education system is at fault, and the politics behind it are the problem … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pYE_F9PhiI

Joel Snider
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
August 14, 2021 9:13 am

What about a global media network that relentlessly shouts ‘Armageddon’?
Climate change is just one head of the hydra.

Steve Case
Reply to  John Shewchuk
August 14, 2021 8:04 am

Yes, it comes from the climate alarmists and their propaganda machine. Here’s one pointed out by Kip Hansen on these pages a few months ago:

Covering Climate Now

and their Ten Tips

Number Ten: For God’s sake, do not platform climate denialists.

 

 

Reply to  Steve Case
August 14, 2021 8:17 am

Good grief — very depressing (and very good propaganda) links. Good to know, and just confirms how extensive the “ministry of truth” is. Thanks for the information. That just means we’ll have to do more counter-propaganda (called education) work — such as what the real “red alert” is … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vb7JRK4Yko

Reply to  Steve Case
August 14, 2021 10:28 am

and NPR has taken the lead there in instructing media how to push alarmism –

https://coveringclimatenow.org/resource/nprs-climate-guide/#

Steve Case
Reply to  Bubba Cow
August 14, 2021 2:11 pm

If you follow the NPR link this one comes up:

  • Winters are warming faster than other seasons. That’s melting snowpack earlier, hurting crops that need freezing temperatures…

Really? Pull my other leg.

Rainer Bensch
Reply to  Steve Case
August 15, 2021 3:46 am

Yep, more snails, more wasps, more ticks…

Bruce Cobb
August 14, 2021 6:11 am

It’s sort of psychobabular nonsense.

philincalifornia
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
August 14, 2021 3:47 pm

Your comment has been discounted because it has a big word in it.

….. which, incidentally, proves that carbon dioxide at these current levels causes global changes in climate parameters that have never been measured, nor ever will be.

Dave-E
August 14, 2021 6:17 am

Climate change zealots demonstrate their idiocy every day. According to them EVERYTHING is driven by climate change, and they loudly proclaim this no matter how ridiculous they sound. It’s amazing what they can do or say when they are incapable of shame.

bill Johnston
Reply to  Dave-E
August 14, 2021 7:22 am

Including but not limited to: covid-19, American financial collapse, open borders and toe nail fungus. Scary.

oeman 50
Reply to  bill Johnston
August 14, 2021 7:32 am

You mean if I stop emitting CO2, it will cure my toe fungus? Count me in!

H.R.
Reply to  oeman 50
August 14, 2021 7:40 am

“All these $Trillions? If it saves just one toe, it will all be worth it.”

(Does that sound about right?)

philincalifornia
Reply to  H.R.
August 14, 2021 4:00 pm

I”ll donate a toe for a 1% finders fee.Since it’s nice and warm here in the East SF Bay, I’m in shorts and pondering which one. I think it’s gonna be the one with the wonky nail. Where do I send my wire transfer information?

Saving the planet, one toe at a time.

bill Johnston
Reply to  oeman 50
August 14, 2021 9:03 am

Absolutely. Where shall we send the body?

Rich Davis
Reply to  oeman 50
August 14, 2021 4:10 pm

Yes, definitely, but it may take a few years in your casket to complete the process of eliminating the fungus. Faster if you opt for cremation.

Bill Taylor
Reply to  Dave-E
August 14, 2021 1:08 pm

and since the climate is just a set of statistics from the previous 30 years of weather for a given area, their CLAIM is that the PAST controls the future.

Chaswarnertoo
August 14, 2021 6:23 am

Anybody worried about AGW should stop exhaling, right now.

LdB
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
August 14, 2021 6:47 am

Yep let Darwinian theory take them all.

CD in Wisconsin
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
August 14, 2021 10:08 am

I’m waiting for legislation from Washington that requires us all to wear carbon sequestration masks over our faces. That way we cover both bases: COVID-19 and climate change.

No such technology as carbon sequestration masks? Try telling that to everybody in Congress who believe the alarmist narrative I’m sure they’ll think of something. /sarc

philincalifornia
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
August 14, 2021 4:01 pm

Lead poisoning will be the next issue.

August 14, 2021 6:26 am

If people talked about it more, they would realize that their concern about climate change is actually widely shared.”

I’m appalled at the deep projection onto children of unfounded fears. The psycho-ologist here unfortunately with the same last name as I should turn attention to the study of climate change groupthink amongst self-loathing humans, mostly liberal, who fear life and nature.

There’s a reason people have always complained about the weather, but don’t do anything about it – because we can’t change the weather and climate, it operates naturally as always.

I agree with Eric, the numbers were in last year, Americans put climate worries dead last.

Richard Page
Reply to  Bob Weber
August 14, 2021 6:49 am

I think if those with climate change anxiety were to talk about it more, they’d find that people are completely disinterested in their concerns. Whether this would ease their fears or worsen their anxiety is anybody’s guess. It is, however, irresponsible of a healthcare professional to advise people to share their anxieties without knowing what that effect could be – it could make them far worse.

Disputin
Reply to  Richard Page
August 14, 2021 7:08 am

‘people are completely disinterested in their concerns.’

I think you probably mean ‘uninterested’.

Richard Page
Reply to  Disputin
August 14, 2021 8:07 am

No, I mean disinterested. Uninterested might work as well in this context, but I wanted to give it a little more emphasis, hence disinterested.

Disputin
Reply to  Richard Page
August 14, 2021 11:31 am

dis•in•ter•est•ed dĭs-ĭn′trĭ-stĭd, -ĭn′tə-rĕs″tĭd►

  • adj.
  • Free of bias and self-interest; impartial.
  • adj.
  • Not interested; indifferent.

un•in•ter•est•ed ŭn-ĭn′trĭ-stĭd, -tər-ĭ-stĭd, -tə-rĕs″tĭd►

  • adj.
  • Not interested in something; having no interest.
  • Not interested; not having any interest or property in something specified; not personally concerned: as, to be uninterested in business.
  • Not having the mind or the passions engaged: as, to be uninterested in a discourse or narration.
Richard Page
Reply to  Disputin
August 14, 2021 12:15 pm

You do know that those are actually seperate definitions, don’t you? They don’t all apply at the same time, in all contexts. Take the first definition in your list and then stop. While everybody is completely fascinated by your ability to look words up in an online dictionary, it probably isn’t necessary to copy and paste it into a discussion just to prove that yes, it is a real word, yes the definition does match the context I used it in and no, I don’t need to swap it for uninterested.

Mr.
Reply to  Richard Page
August 14, 2021 2:00 pm

Do you guys mind if I just follow your exchanges on this?
As an unabashed pedant myself, I have to strenuously resist the impulse to join in the stoush.
🙂

H.R.
Reply to  Mr.
August 14, 2021 7:18 pm

So you’re disinterested but not disinterested, Mr,?

I used both meanings there, but if someone comes up with a third definition, put me in the uninterested camp.
😜

garboard
August 14, 2021 6:29 am

imagine if we had the internet and 24/7 news and talk shows back in the fifties when the prospect of thermonuclear war was a part of everyday life .? in fact we came very , very close to nuclear war over the cuban missile crisis . besides newspapers , all we had was about 25 minutes of national news per day . today whatever catastrophe happens anywhere in the world we are totally swamped with it . there is a huge industry now in creating and feeding anxiety . and there is no perspective or critique of it . news orgs should be more aware of the psychological effects of their industry instead of competing with each other to escalate anxiety and fear .when New England was destroyed by the Labor Day hurricane of 1938 it wasnt even the lead story in a lot of newspapers and people in other parts of the country were barely aware of it in the era before tv

garboard
Reply to  garboard
August 14, 2021 6:30 am

back in the sixties ,sorry

George Daddis
Reply to  garboard
August 14, 2021 12:40 pm

You were right the first time.
I was practicing hiding under my classroom desk in 1954.
A section of our large public park (designed by F L Olmstead) was taken over by an antiaircraft battalion, with barracks etc. That was something the youth could actually experience every day on the way to school.
None of us were in the need of psychotherapy.

Reply to  George Daddis
August 14, 2021 1:19 pm

The 30 minute flight time of ICBM and SLBM horror didn’t arrive until the 60’s Duck and Cover started in the 1950’s though.

Mr.
Reply to  George Daddis
August 14, 2021 2:10 pm

#MeToo.

Luckily, I was being brought up in that part of the world (Australia) that was expected to dodge the direct nuclear exchanges between the main “Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD)” combatants.

But, as Neville Shute’s book and film “On The Beach” presented, nowhere was expected to escape the global radiation extinction that followed.

Now, a couple of degrees of global warming over the next 100 years – pfffft.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  garboard
August 15, 2021 9:32 am

“imagine if we had the internet and 24/7 news and talk shows back in the fifties when the prospect of thermonuclear war was a part of everyday life .? in fact we came very , very close to nuclear war over the cuban missile crisis”

If it had been up to Fidel Castro, Cuba’s communist leader, there would have been a nuclear war between the U.S. and Russia. Castro was lobbying the Russians to fire away. Russia’s leader thought Castro had lost his mind when they learned what he wanted them to do.

See the book: “One Hell of a Gamble”. It lays it all out. The Russians took the right course, despite Castro’s pleas to attack the U.S. with nuclear weapons.

The American Left loves Castro. One has to wonder why. I guess they don’t have any sense of self-preservation.

Last edited 2 months ago by Tom Abbott
August 14, 2021 6:32 am

The most debilitating psychological effect is what alarmism does to brains by causing them to look for and then blindly accept fake science that’s imagined to ‘fix’ the alarm.

August 14, 2021 6:40 am

Forty years,, Eric? As far as ecological disasters in general, more like fifty plus years of failed predictions of imminent doom.

starzmom
August 14, 2021 6:45 am

I work in the court system as a criminal defense attorney. I am seeing these people all the time. Not that climate is necessarily a big concern, but all of life is, and you can fix it with a little pill. These people are all drugged up and that just exacerbates their problems. I have yet to see a bonafide domestic violence case that did not involve drugs or alcohol. If you can’t get a prescription, you just use something else. Growing up, I don’t remember anybody who took drugs for behavior–now they all do.

Richard Page
Reply to  starzmom
August 14, 2021 1:21 pm

On a brighter note, pharmaceuticals are THE area to invest in. Drug companies are raking it in.

David Wojick
August 14, 2021 6:49 am

Unfortunately I do not see the bogus narrative weakening, much less slowly dying. Just before the lockdown we had millions marching. If anything the hysteria is slowly growing.

Leo Smith
August 14, 2021 6:50 am

It is evolution in action: teenagers overcome with climate panic won’t breed and will top themselves. Job done!

Last edited 2 months ago by Leo Smith
Bruce Cobb
August 14, 2021 6:56 am

“Pluralistic Ignorance”
n. Phenomenon wherin masses of people believe something to be true based on little evidence, and on the say-so of “experts”. See “Mass Psychosis”.

Jan de Jong
August 14, 2021 7:08 am

I live in Europe and suffer climate idiocy anxiety.

Climate believer
Reply to  Jan de Jong
August 14, 2021 11:01 am

Good one Jan, couldn’t agree more 😉

Steve Oregon
August 14, 2021 7:11 am

The woke progressives are nuts? Who knew?

Kevin kilty
Reply to  Steve Oregon
August 14, 2021 8:28 am

Thus, let sleeping progressive lie.

Scissor
Reply to  Kevin kilty
August 14, 2021 9:32 am

They always lie, sleeping or not.

Brad
August 14, 2021 7:14 am

yeah but all the consequent human miseries have been monetized into multiple, sustainable revenue streams so it has that going for it

Reply to  Brad
August 14, 2021 7:45 am

China is the big financial beneficiary of all this stupidity. They’re exempt from the UNFCC’s onerous dictates as they supply the hardware, built using mostly coal energy, that makes the idiots who accept the junk science feel better about themselves. If we stay the course, it will be too late by the time these Marxist fools learn that their green boondoggle is causing far more damage to the planet and its citizens then even the imaginary climate catastrophe they’re so obsessed about.

August 14, 2021 7:33 am

Don’t we see major psychological disorders at work at the UN and in the government?

Reply to  Curious George
August 14, 2021 8:54 am

Liberalism is a mental disorder for sure. Not sure if it is curable though. Maybe electroshock therapy or a lobotomy might be curative.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
August 15, 2021 9:45 am

“Liberalism is a mental disorder for sure.”

I would prefer to say “radical leftism” is a mental disorder. They live in a false reality which distorts their vision of the world.

Some Liberals live in the real world, and I would not equate them with radical leftists. Unfortunately, the Liberal numbers are diminishing and the radical leftists are increasing.

Still, it looks like radical leftists only make up about 25 percent of the American public, if you go by the polls.

Richard Page
Reply to  Curious George
August 14, 2021 12:19 pm

Well we all should have known things were going to turn out the way they have with the Rockefellers involved in the original siting.

Ed Zuiderwijk
August 14, 2021 7:35 am

CCDS Cimate change delusion syndrome.

fretslider
August 14, 2021 7:44 am

IPCRESS

Works a treat on the gullible

saveenergy
Reply to  fretslider
August 14, 2021 8:42 am

Which ???
Induction of Psycho-Neuroses by Conditioned Reflex with Stress
(The IPCRESS File, novel by Len Deighton)
or
Icosahedral Permuted Comparison of Relative Shape Similarity

fretslider
Reply to  saveenergy
August 14, 2021 9:41 am

My apologies if you were confused. Naturally, I was referring to the article above: “Climate Change Anxiety Driving Debilitating Psychological Disorders”

The constant bombardment of ever greater alarmism will, as I opined, “Induce Psycho-Neuroses” in the gullible.

Shape-shifting doesn’t come into it.

Last edited 2 months ago by fretslider
Bruce Cobb
August 14, 2021 8:26 am

There you have it: Climate Change Belief is a debilitating psychological disorder. So, stop Believing, and you’re cured.

Kevin kilty
August 14, 2021 8:35 am

Psychologists are an odd lot. Many that I know are good scientists dealing with extremely complex issues. Their curriculum in college actually teaches “methods” that involve statistics, and many are as a result better informed statisticians than many physical scientists and engineers who can get to a degree with no statistics education at all — and it shows.

Unfortunately they have also become infected with left-wing politics to an awful degree and despite knowing full well what bias is, they let bias lead them forward. Beyond a certain point education can become a good or bad thing. Another of life’s ironies.

Jim Gorman
Reply to  Kevin kilty
August 14, 2021 12:45 pm

The problem is that they are inured to sampling statistics and know nothing of physical measurements, their accuracy, or their precision. The ones I know, have little knowledge about what assumptions are behind many of the statistical tests nor do they have any kind of inkling about time series and the implications therein.

PaulH
August 14, 2021 8:43 am

Wasn’t this the Green Blob’s goal? Propaganda works.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  PaulH
August 15, 2021 10:02 am

Yes, it is their goal, and it does work, when you have control of the mass media communications network, like they do.

The Media becomes the “Voice of Authority” and a lot of people are fooled into believing the narratives the Media propagates. And in this case, they are fooled into feeling anxiety and fear over how the Earth’s climate is behaving.

The alarmists are scaring a lot of people. One of my friends, who never said a word about climate change before, apparently noted the lastest exaggerated claim by NOAA and expressed concern for his future crops due to what he thought was going to be excessive heat. I alayed his fears by telling him all that stuff was BS.

It’s criminal the way the alarmists are scaring people while having no evidence to back up their scary climate change stories. They know they don’t have the evidence and they are deliberately distoring this truth to the public.

August 14, 2021 8:47 am

It’s not Climate Change, which is a multi-decades slow changes in weather patterns. Changes to which humans and ecosystems are quite adept at adaptation. We all know that it’s the scaremongering from the Communist-inspired Left to seize power that is frightening the sheeple.

Bedwetter Eric Holthaus is the poster boy for Climate Scared Sheep everywhere. Steve Milloy writes about that on his blog.
https://junkscience.com/2020/11/if-you-need-more-evidence-that-climate-is-about-communism/

philincalifornia
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
August 14, 2021 4:24 pm

As I think you know Joel, they’re not actually Communist-inspired. They’re bank account inspired. They’re not power-inspired. Is Joe senile nitwit a one-world socialist or communist? He couldn’t even spell those words without his handlers, let alone know what they mean.

It’s good work though if you can get it.

Rick C
August 14, 2021 8:47 am

As I read this, it’s Aug 14th, the “dog days” in southern Wisconsin. It’s almost 11:00am and it’s 71 F with a gentle breeze and not a cloud in the sky. I have to say my “climate anxiety” has never been much of a problem and is currently nonexistent.

John Hultquist
Reply to  Rick C
August 14, 2021 10:07 am

Wisconsin’s climate problem occurs every year about the 3rd week in January. Then the “January Thaw” comes to remind folks that winter, too, will pass.

philincalifornia
Reply to  Rick C
August 14, 2021 4:30 pm

You knuckle-dragging Neanderthal, Trumpster rayciss fashisshes. I saved the planet by making a new cardboard sign. I’m lovely.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Rick C
August 15, 2021 10:06 am

“It’s almost 11:00am and it’s 71 F with a gentle breeze and not a cloud in the sky.”

Same here. It feels like the big heat of summer is starting to diminish. It’s getting a little chilly in the mornings and it’s the middle of August, which is usually the hottest part of the year around here.

TonyL
August 14, 2021 8:48 am

“You know, we don’t talk about it at Thanksgiving. If people talked about it more, they would realize that their concern about climate change is actually widely shared.”

Remember the last time “Government” wanted us to use the holidays to sell their policies to our families? That worked out well.

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Eben
August 14, 2021 9:10 am

Fear of climate – or climate of fear
https://youtu.be/w_ybzC2wP7Q

Pamela Matlack-Klein
August 14, 2021 9:19 am

The sorts of people who allows fear of climate change affect their lives to this extent are only seizing on the currently trending malady. They are the same people who suffer from Long Covid and insist they nearly died from covid but were never diagnosed or hospitalized. They also believe they are gluten-intolerant and allergic to eggs in any form. Facebook is full of support groups for these pathetic creatures.

philincalifornia
Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
August 14, 2021 4:47 pm

Pamela, Long Covid does actually exist. How do I know, I got the POS? Being 65, I got my second vaccine shot on March 1st, but on about April 15th, I actually got the f-kin Chinese virus and it was confirmed by orthogonal antibody test for antibodies against proteins other than those in the spike.

If you think I’m speaking like an internet idiot, you should know that my lab was the first to make diagnostic tests for HIV, for HCV (last year’s Nobel Prize for Medicine) and, by a ridiculous coincidence, we were also the first to clone the furin protease enzyme gene/cDNA sequence.

I wish people would leave me the fck alone. Not you Pamela, you’re OK.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  philincalifornia
August 15, 2021 2:23 am

So Phil, you are one of the break-through cases? I’m older and refuse to get the jab nor am I worried about getting sick. No co-morbidities and excellent immune system. Take care and don’t let the bastards drag you down!

Larry
Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
August 15, 2021 5:19 am

As an attorney, I specialize in Social Security Disability. One of my clients had COVID 19. He is now on O2 24/7 and not able to work.
“Long COVID” is a real thing.

2hotel9
August 14, 2021 9:19 am

No, Democrat/leftarded stupidity is driving debilitating psychological disorders. When you make people terrified of the flu and other such horsesh*t they are going to go crazy/er.

August 14, 2021 9:26 am

What drives my climate anxiety ?

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Alas Babylon
August 14, 2021 9:36 am

If the youngsters bring up climate change at Thanksgiving–or any other sit down–ask them what should BE DONE about it?

No one has a good answer. Everything forced by government is tyrannical and harmful to poor/lower class people. Can poor people buy electric cars? Pay for more electricity? Be taxed for road miles driven (and often have to drive miles to their low income jobs)? Force people to NOT use wood to heat homes and food? Give up the abundant and cheaper fossil fuels for more expensive alternatives? Let China and India belch out coal smoke?

As I said, the solutions are awful, because they create hardship and are compulsory. And if compulsory, not following them means some punishment will follow.

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John Hultquist
Reply to  Alas Babylon
August 14, 2021 10:33 am

Be taxed for road miles driven “

Currently those driving internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles (aka – carbon based fuel) do pay for miles driven. I live in the Great Left Coast State of Washington. Our gasoline tax is $0.678 [Combined State & Federal Tax Rate/Gallon].**
 Thus a vehicle that gets 25 mpg costs 2.7¢ per mile. Within the State, there are tolls also.
It is time to charge electric vehicles (EVs) for road miles, and remove all other perks and subsidies.

**The State Dept. of Transportation, and counties, are fixing lots of roads since July 2016 when the current rate took effect.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  John Hultquist
August 14, 2021 3:23 pm

The socialist government in Victoria, Australia recently tried to tax EVs for km driven. There was an uproar. They had to reduce some other tax on them to placate the woke.

Hilariously, it just hilights the fact that these governments don’t care about CAGW, they only care about taxes!

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  John Hultquist
August 15, 2021 2:27 am

At least Washington is using their road tax to keep the roads in good shape. I have driven in your state many times, east to west, north to south, back and forth, and don’t recall any horrible road conditions like in Illinois…

Totally agree that EVs need to start paying and the subsidies need to be stopped. But then the subsidies for wind mills and solar panels have to go too!

Alas Babylon
Reply to  John Hultquist
August 15, 2021 11:16 am

This is a NEW tax, in addition to the current road tax you cited, that they are proposing in the Infrastructure bill. It adds more taxes to gas/diesel powered and captures taxes on electric vehicles.

Andy Pattullo
August 14, 2021 10:03 am

Wow. That really is self serving. Claiming people are having psychological problems due to climate anxiety while you stoke the fears of climate change. As an Infectious disease clinician this would be like me spreading leprosy around so I could get more business.

David Dibbell
August 14, 2021 10:05 am

Remember Lucy’s “psychiatric help” stand in the Peanuts comics? 5 cents for advice. Perhaps Lucy’s take on climate change anxiety would be, “GET A GRIP!!! The planet will be FINE!!! 5 cents please.” Seriously, the doomsayers are producing extensive multi-generational harm.

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Eben
Reply to  David Dibbell
August 14, 2021 10:18 am

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David Dibbell
Reply to  Eben
August 14, 2021 3:14 pm

Perfect! 🙂

Doonman
August 14, 2021 11:28 am

When I sit in my backyard sipping a cold drink and I look at the trees and flowers, I see nothing different happening there than I have for the last 40 years.

Except for ants. There are more Argentine ants now than there ever were.

They have an unprecedented population boom and I hate those little bugs. All efforts to eradicate them have failed.

They spread damaging aphids, mold and bacteria everywhere. I’m sure that has affected me in psychological ways that have never been studied, but no one ever talks about them. If people talked about ants more, they would realize that their concern about ant change is actually widely shared. And so therefore, you know, I think there would be more awareness on the part of politicians that many people in their constituencies, you know, sort of do want them to take action.

Richard Page
Reply to  Doonman
August 14, 2021 12:23 pm

Would you say we’ve reached an ant tipping point?
We certainly aren’t close to peak ant yet.

Shoki Kaneda
Reply to  Doonman
August 14, 2021 3:21 pm

When I lived in San Diego (40 years), I had many battles with Argentine ants. They are almost impossible to eradicate, efforts at which usually serving to create multiple, new colonies. I feel your pain.

Alas Babylon
Reply to  Doonman
August 15, 2021 11:19 am

Come to the Southeast USA and deal with our Fire Ants.

You’ll never complain about Argentine Ants again.

Shoki Kaneda
August 14, 2021 11:40 am

Actually, I think it is the other way around. Debilitating psychological disorders are driving climate change anxiety.

Peta of Newark
August 14, 2021 11:49 am

It’s what I was raving about (drugs in all shapes/forms) earlier today in another thread

Puritanism and Catastrophism are also ‘drugs’ – but different ways.

Puritanism is simply the trashing of ‘something’ that ‘someone else’ has that is perceived to be ‘enjoyable’ or ‘fun’ for that other person
And Fossil Fuels are ‘fun’
Basically= Epic and out-of-control Selfishness.
Attempts are vigourously made to disguise it though, obviously.
We call those ‘Good Intentions’

Catastrophism is born of paranoia and is the revelling in doom & disaster scenarios.
Wallowing in depression.
NOT the ‘sad’ sort of depression like when your pet dog has just passed away or when the GF has dumps you
This is Long Term Depression usually occasioned by ‘drugs’

Paranoia is the inability to think or react quickly to ‘situations’ (the tendency to panic) so the victims of Catastrophism comfort themselves by flagging up and exaggerating how bad their situation is. To their minds at least.

They do this in the hope that ‘someone’ will come and rescue them. Just like in the movies, classically when The Cavalry came riding over the hill – just as the bad-guy Indians were gonna succeed in their attack on The Fort
Sound familiar? e.g. Code Red, Tipping Points, Got to act now now now
= Extreme anxiety when The Cavalry are deemed to be ‘running late’

We call that ‘Socialism’ = buck passing = a desire to return to the womb = return to happy carefree days of childhood when Mum/Dad took care of everything

I’ve often wondered what would happen if/when you actually did (chemically or somehow otherwise) disable everything that folks learn as they’re growing up.
I can only imagine you would be left with A Child – a generally helpless thing that only knows its instinct = what it was born with.

Nicely describes the simplistic kindergarten-grade garbage that passes for Science these days.
Also the tribalism, the name calling and the appeals to authority.

It is all So Childish…

Edward Sager
August 14, 2021 1:50 pm

NPR flushed its credibility down the toilet a decade ago. Why it is still publicly funded is a mystery.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Edward Sager
August 15, 2021 10:15 am

Republicans should do something about that they next time they get in a position to do so. Defund NPR.

Stephen W
August 14, 2021 1:50 pm

Brave new world. Living in a fake society, popping pills to make you happy.

August 14, 2021 2:53 pm

Hypothesis: This is simply the dysfunctional people that grew up in the 1960s and 1970s attempting to recreate the “good old days” of their youth.

Certainly the events (and their treatment by the media) are rhyming with those days. (Yes, I grew up then myself, but with sane parents in a sane town. Eerily similar.)

August 14, 2021 5:17 pm

Just as the ‘climate’ crisis is slowly dying, and just in time, the Leftists have wheeled out the new Shibboleth of the Covid Crisis and Lockdowns. After 40 years of failed predictions of the imminent end of the world caused by CO2,fading public attention is swivelled to Covid-19. This new fear is driving people to pills, drink and suicide just as effectively, but may not last as long. In both cases politicians have grasped entirely the wrong end of the stick and are wielding it to cause much destruction to people.

Gary Pearse
August 14, 2021 5:28 pm

Connected to an explanation of why psychologists are not going to cure the anxiety felt by children and adults, I tried to link a 1980s ABC interview with a KGB defector who described the Soviet ideological subversion of America through the education system and what the result will be in years to come (like NOW!) Even ‘Social Justice’ was a term imbeded in the plan! It was a youtube video and my entire post vanished when I clicked it to post it!

The interview was a wide ranging hour and forty minutes, all very interesting, but the transformation of America to a marxist state was in the final 20minute segment which I found as a separate video. Its chilling in the accuracy of forecasted results.

https://www.westernjournal.com/every-american-see-interview-kgb-defector-knew-exactly-left-america/

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Gary Pearse
August 15, 2021 10:22 am

Yes, this has been a long time coming. Those who seek to undermine our personal freedoms have been working hard at accomplishing that goal for many years, and in the process have created many new marxist believers with which we now have to contend.

Now that their nefarious goals have become clear, the Right has been galvanized and is starting to push back. Too little, too late? Time will tell.

Gyan1
August 14, 2021 6:00 pm

The climate crisis narrative is clinical psychotic delusion.

rah
August 14, 2021 6:42 pm
  • The way I see it, anyone stressing about climate change already had a “Debilitating Psychological Disorder” to begin with.
Tom Abbott
Reply to  rah
August 15, 2021 10:31 am

Without WUWT or a very good education, most people would have a hard time sorting out the wheat from the chaff when it comes to climate change science.

Most people are dependent on what they hear out of the news media, and that’s the problem when it comes to a technical issue like human-caused climate change.

The fearful are not mentally ill, they are just being fed the wrong information and don’t realize it. And it is not easy to convince them they are getting it wrong, when the majority of Society’s opinion makers are on the side of human-caused climate change being real and dangerous.

rah
August 14, 2021 6:47 pm

A what the hell. My government has already officially classified this former SF solder as an “extremist” and potential terrorist threat. I fit two out of the their three criteria.
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Tom Abbott
Reply to  rah
August 15, 2021 10:36 am

Everyone who isn’t a radical Democrat fits that classification.

I just wonder how far Biden and the radical Left think they can push this hateful domestic terroirsm concept? They might be outnumbered when it comes to radical Democrats versus the Rest of Us. There’s a good chance they are. They should think about that.

John Sandhofner
August 14, 2021 7:47 pm

“we might be concerned about an issue, but we don’t realize how many other people are also concerned” Really? With all the hype made by politicians, movie stars, media, academia about this issue you can’t honestly think anyone on the left thinks they are the only one really believing this is a serious issue. The left is not very smart at understanding human nature and how people, who are not hard-core lefties, function.

Pat from Kerbob
August 14, 2021 9:45 pm

I think there will need to be climate change POLICY crimes against humanity trials.
People who have led children to commit suicide shall get the Mussolini treatment.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Pat from Kerbob
August 15, 2021 10:38 am

Yes, a Reckoning is due. This Human-caused Climate Change lie has cost humanity dearly.

Greg
August 15, 2021 12:43 am

– they will discover their entire family wants climate action.

All except that “crazy uncle” who follows climate denial websites like WUWT ! 😉

ozspeaksup
August 15, 2021 4:37 am

it will take a LOT of years to remove the brainwashing kids have copped for the last 40+ yrs
I speak as a kid whos life was ruined BY the same mob of pschycopaths when I was a teen at highschool and copped the have no kids you have no future etc spiel BY govt approved ngos and teachers

bluecat57
August 15, 2021 6:07 am

“Driving” pun intended?

Paul Jenkinson
August 15, 2021 7:48 am

The Chinese don’t teach their children about climate catastrophe so there’s over 1 billion that will be ok.
It’s just unfortunate they have a despotic cruel CCP to contend with who really don’t care about them.

Kevin R.
August 15, 2021 11:17 am

The Left creates a very neurotic society.

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