Silly Season at the UN: 1989 vs. 2021 Climate Doomsday (it’s all politics now)

From MasterResource

By Robert Bradley Jr. — August 10, 2021

“The climate of many countries seems to be one of the great reasons why idleness, dishonesty, immobility, stupidity, and weakness of will prevail. If we can conquer climate, the whole world will become stronger and nobler.”

– Ellsworth Huntington, Civilization and Climate (New Haven, Yale University Press, 1915), p. 294.

Global government by an intellectual/political elite is the commanding height of commanding heights. Witness the (now) 33-year Great Alarm of anthropogenic global warming (aka climate change, global weirding).

UN 2021: 6th Climate Assessment

It’s all bad. it’s only going to get worse. It is civilization’s last chance. Red Alert for humankind….

But a massive energy transformation can avert the worst part. “The innovations in this report, and advances in climate science that it reflects,” said IPCC chair Hoesung Lee, “provide an invaluable input into climate negotiations and decision-making.”

That’s about all you need to know about the latest from the IPCC.

Where are the scientists who have documented that global warming is not a major threat? That real-world warming is well below model-predicted? That higher CO2 concentrations have distinct benefits to leave the sign of the externality unknown?

The dissenters are long gone, for the most part. Many well known names are in their own silos, patiently and politely conducting their own research and analysis. Some are keeping a low profile within academia. Still others have probably decided not to become climate scientists and have a career blackballed by a mainstream less concerned about human betterment than transforming an economic system that do not like.

The IPCC’s latest is all well orchestrated. A scientific report to save the world just ahead of the UN Climate Change Conference of Parties (COP26) conference to be held in in Glasgow, UK in less than two months. A conference, by the way, that finds itself in the headwinds of a tripartite fossil-fuel boom and splintering politics.

Reality Check: UN 1989

History matters. And in the climate debate, mankind’s long concern about climate and recent angst about global warming are worth revisiting for both perspective and optimism.

Reprinted below is an AP report from 1989 on the consensus of United Nations on climate change. I report; you decide ….

UNITED NATIONS (AP) _ A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.

Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of ″eco- refugees,′ ′ threatening political chaos, said Noel Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program, or UNEP.

He said governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect before it goes beyond human control.

As the warming melts polar icecaps, ocean levels will rise by up to three feet, enough to cover the Maldives and other flat island nations, Brown told The Associated Press in an interview on Wednesday.

Coastal regions will be inundated; one-sixth of Bangladesh could be flooded, displacing a fourth of its 90 million people. A fifth of Egypt’s arable land in the Nile Delta would be flooded, cutting off its food supply, according to a joint UNEP and U.S. Environmental Protection Agency study.

″Ecological refugees will become a major concern, and what’s worse is you may find that people can move to drier ground, but the soils and the natural resources may not support life. Africa doesn’t have to worry about land, but would you want to live in the Sahara?″ he said.

UNEP estimates it would cost the United States at least $100 billion to protect its east coast alone.

Shifting climate patterns would bring back 1930s Dust Bowl conditions to Canadian and U.S. wheatlands, while the Soviet Union could reap bumper crops if it adapts its agriculture in time, according to a study by UNEP and the International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis.

Excess carbon dioxide is pouring into the atmosphere because of humanity’s use of fossil fuels and burning of rain forests, the study says. The atmosphere is retaining more heat than it radiates, much like a greenhouse.

The most conservative scientific estimate that the Earth’s temperature will rise 1 to 7 degrees in the next 30 years, said Brown.

The difference may seem slight, he said, but the planet is only 9 degrees warmer now than during the 8,000-year Ice Age that ended 10,000 years ago.

Brown said if the warming trend continues, ″the question is will we be able to reverse the process in time? We say that within the next 10 years, given the present loads that the atmosphere has to bear, we have an opportunity to start the stabilizing process.″

He said even the most conservative scientists ″already tell us there’s nothing we can do now to stop a … change″ of about 3 degrees.

″Anything beyond that, and we have to start thinking about the significant rise of the sea levels … we can expect more ferocious storms, hurricanes, wind shear, dust erosion.″

He said there is time to act, but there is no time to waste.

UNEP is working toward forming a scientific plan of action by the end of 1990, and the adoption of a global climate treaty by 1992. In May, delegates from 103 nations met in Nairobi, Kenya – where UNEP is based – and decided to open negotiations on the treaty next year.

Nations will be asked to reduce the use of fossil fuels, cut the emission of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases such as methane and fluorocarbons, and preserve the rain forests.

″We have no clear idea about the ecological minimum of green space that the planet needs to function effectively. What we do know is that we are destroying the tropical rain forest at the rate of 50 acres a minute, about one football field per second,″ said Brown.

Each acre of rain forest can store 100 tons of carbon dioxide and reprocess it into oxygen.

Brown suggested that compensating Brazil, Indonesia and Kenya for preserving rain forests may be necessary.

The European Community istalking about a half-cent levy on each kilowatt- hour of fossil fuels to raise $55 million a year to protect the rain forests, and other direct subsidies may be possible, he said.

The treaty could also call for improved energy efficiency, increasing conservation, and for developed nations to transfer technology to Third World nations to help them save energy and cut greenhouse gas emissions, said Brown.

The fix was in very early at the UN. The rest is history.

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August 10, 2021 10:05 am

The IPCC report confirms that rising heat is saving lives, and rising CO2 is greening the world.

The IPCC confirms that climate change indeed has increased heatwaves. However, the report equally firmly, if virtually unacknowledged, tells us that global warming means “the frequency and intensity of cold extremes have decreased.”  

This matters because globally, many more people die from cold than from heat. A new study in the highly respected journal Lancet shows that about 500,000 people die from heat per year, but 4,500,000 people die from cold.

As temperatures have increased over the past two decades, that has caused an extra 116,000 heat deaths each year. This, of course, fits the narrative and is what we have heard over and over again. But it turns out that because global warming has also reduced cold waves, we now see 283,000 fewer cold deaths.

·        You don’t hear this, but so far climate change saves 166,000 lives each year.

It also mentions climate upsides like the fact that more CO₂ in the atmosphere has acted as a fertilizer and created a profound global greening of the planet. One NASA study found that over a period of 35 years, climate change has added an area of green equivalent to twice the size of the continental United States.

But don’t expect to read about this in any of the breathless IPCC articles on the climate impact on weather fatalities, or the CO2 greening of the world.

John Tillman
Reply to  Ronald Stein
August 10, 2021 10:20 am

Lancet is a lot less highly respected now, after having published parasitologist (!) Peter Daszak’s pack of lies about the origins of WuWHOFlu, without noting his blatant conflict of interest as head of EcoHealth, Dr. FauXi’s cutout to fund ChiCom bioweapons research.

Ron Long
Reply to  John Tillman
August 10, 2021 10:32 am

Right on comment, John. The tangled web of NIH, under Fauci, supporting Wuhan Lab, after the CCP kicked the French out, with circuitous money transfer to avoid detection, will be openly litigated someday (soon, I hope). The Wuhan lab clearly was doing “gain of function” studies under the supervision of the CCP. Weaponizing a virus is what it was in plain english.

AndyHce
Reply to  Ron Long
August 10, 2021 10:05 pm

You don’t really believe those things will change any opinions among the woke, do you?

cirby
Reply to  John Tillman
August 10, 2021 10:47 am

That’s not even considering that The Lancet is directly responsible for the modern anti-vaccination movement, or their other huge errors and outright fraud.

Give us a real citation, not the current leading pseudoscience rag.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  cirby
August 10, 2021 1:56 pm

The fact is, the Lancet study from (I believe) 2015 indicated that there are 20 times more deaths from the cold than the heat, world wide. The findings also showed hypothermia can occur year around, day or night. Hyperthermia most often occurs in Summer, mid day.

Reply to  Rory Forbes
August 10, 2021 3:13 pm

That ealier report looks about right, a very wide difference, indeed it is hard to see why anyone would die from heat if they are hydrated and protected from the direct rays of the sun.

Reply to  Rafe Champion
August 10, 2021 4:17 pm

I take it you have never experienced 100% huimidity and 35 C. Hydrtaion mens nothung if sweat doesn’t cool you.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Leo Smith
August 10, 2021 5:16 pm

What’s your point? Does it contradict anything I wrote? Here, read it yourself in Science Daily:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/05/150520193831.htm

Cold weather kills 20 times as many people as hot weather, according to an international study analyzing over 74 million deaths in 384 locations across 13 countries. The findings, published in The Lancet, also reveal that deaths due to moderately hot or cold weather substantially exceed those resulting from extreme heat waves or cold spells.

“It’s often assumed that extreme weather causes the majority of deaths, with most previous research focusing on the effects of extreme heat waves,” says lead author Dr Antonio Gasparrini from the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine in the UK. “Our findings, from an analysis of the largest dataset of temperature-related deaths ever collected, show that the majority of these deaths actually happen on moderately hot and cold days, with most deaths caused by moderately cold temperatures.”

PCman999
Reply to  Leo Smith
August 10, 2021 9:32 pm

100% humidity? Wouldn’t the rain cool you!?
I’ll take high humidity/35°C weather (typical summer heat wave here in S. Ontario) vs -20°C weather (typical winter cold snap here – not including windchill!).

I can’t believe so-called scientists are soiling themselves over 3, or even 5°C of warming over a century when I have to put up with 50°C change in one year!

Ruleo
Reply to  cirby
August 11, 2021 1:46 pm

“anti-vaccination”

You mean actually doing research and saying ‘well f– that!”?

Al-Hydroxide adjuvants are directly responsible for the massive increase of Alzheimer’s and “autism”- neurological damages misdiagnosed. That’s why they say “austim” is a spectrum; the more neurologically damaged, the more “autistic”.

But I’m sure you’ve never looked into vaccine dangers beyond a CDC statement…

TonyG
Reply to  Ruleo
August 11, 2021 5:00 pm

Ruleo
“anti-vax” is no different than “denier”, it’s an easy label to slap on someone so that you can justify ignoring them rather than engaging in discussion. Sadly, a lot of “deniers” seem to have taken to using it.

Ted
Reply to  John Tillman
August 10, 2021 2:55 pm

The Lancet lost respect in 2006 when it claimed the 2003 Iraq war caused 600,000 civilian casualties – based on a survey that found zero murders, executions, or other deaths caused by Iraqis in the year prior to the invasion. So any death other than old age for three years was blamed on the war.

MarkW
Reply to  John Tillman
August 10, 2021 3:20 pm

The list of times that the Lancet has beclowned itself over the last 30 or 40 years keeps growing.
I remember the time they tried to prove that millions of Iraqi civilians had died during Operation Desert Storm.

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Geoffrey Williams
Reply to  MarkW
August 10, 2021 8:47 pm

Anytime US goes to war against a 3rd world country such as Iraq there is going to be a huge casualty differential. A handful of US soldiers die in a bomb blast and the retribution takes hundreds of Iraqi lives. It’s a fact . .

Ruleo
Reply to  Geoffrey Williams
August 11, 2021 1:48 pm

Those downvotes clearly prove warhawks and belief in the righteousness of that ludicrous war still exists…

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  John Tillman
August 10, 2021 4:55 pm

John,

The CCP thought they were being very clever by hiding-in-plain-sight their GofF bioweaponizing of the SARS-Cov-2 virus at the WIV under the guise of “research to develop new vaccines for humans in case of an outbreak of a new coronavirus originating from bats or other animals.”

To the extent the Wuhan Institute of Virology developed any new vaccine against a coronavirus, it has been a miserable failure. To the extent the WIV developed a new, chimeric virus against humans—one not found originating in any wild or domesticated animal species—it has been an outstanding success.

Smart Rock
Reply to  Ronald Stein
August 10, 2021 10:41 am

You don’t hear this, but so far climate change saves 166,000 lives each year

You may be right, but you are assuming that it’s a good thing. To the shadowy figures behind all the climate “science”, it’s probably not a good thing.

If they have their way and our leaders don’t wake up to the impossibility of “net zero by 2050” without dismantling most of industrialised society, then hunger, disease and the collapse of civil society will result in massive population reduction. Which is exactly what they want.

Vuk
Reply to  Ronald Stein
August 10, 2021 11:59 am

Mr Stain
a) I do not think there is going to be any catastrophic climate change (hot or cold) by the end of this century.
b) Even if the IPCC is correct, in the preceding warmer periods civilisations have flourished with far less available adaptability technical resources.
c) I do agree with you that cold if far deadly than warmth, but I will not take your numbers for granted after reading your essay Comparing the world before 1900, to today published here and elsewhere few days ago.

Curious George(@moudryj)
Reply to  Vuk
August 10, 2021 2:20 pm

Saddam Hussein rejoicing: IPCC just gave you the Mother Of All Catastrophes. And there is nothing you can do except getting very poor. You deplorables. (Elites will get very rich as always).

Reply to  Ronald Stein
August 10, 2021 12:36 pm

I can’t accept that the insignificant increase in the average temperature over the last 2 decades has either caused an extra 116K deaths from excess heat or saved 283K from excess cold. Far more viable explanations for those saved from cold is an increase in the use of fossil fuels to keep warm and/or the use of high tech fabrics made from oil. The 116K additional from heat can only be explained by the lack of food or water since if you have both, most people can survive any possible high temperature for as long as necessary. Although this is definitely not the case for surviving the coldest terrestrial temperatures where few lifeforms of any kind can survive.

fretslider
August 10, 2021 10:16 am

It’s
Purely
Political
Crap

Signed off, of course

M Courtney
Reply to  fretslider
August 10, 2021 11:57 am

IPPC?

John Tillman
Reply to  M Courtney
August 10, 2021 12:30 pm

It’s Purely Commie Crap?

MarkW
Reply to  M Courtney
August 10, 2021 3:23 pm

It’s just a minor math error. ;*)

mark stevens
August 10, 2021 10:26 am

The below video helps explains the menticide being promulgated around the globe today. A quote attributed to Carl Jung from the video :

“It is not famine, not earthquakes, not microbes, not cancer, but man himsef who is man’s greatest danger to man, for the simple reason that there is no adequate protection against psychic epidemics which are infinitely more devastating than the worst of natural catastrophes.”

Jay Willis
Reply to  mark stevens
August 10, 2021 11:00 am

Mark, very good video, thanks for the link.

Last edited 5 months ago by Jay Willis
Reply to  mark stevens
August 10, 2021 12:00 pm

Thanks, Mark,
That video succinctly explains what has been going on in the UK, and elsewhere, since the beginning of last year. Amazing, really. The SPI-nudge team obviously have the techniques as their TOR’s.
Totalitarianism in the UK. Who knew?

Vuk
Reply to  SteveT
August 10, 2021 1:47 pm

Well, we had choice between Commie Corbyn and free thinking now turncoat ‘Tonto’ Johnson, in this topsy-turvy world of the recent months, with everything turned upside down, may be Corbin would have gotten us true freedoms, after all his brother was leading every demo. As you said ‘Who knew?’comment image
Piers Corbyn ripping off every Covid safety sticker in sight on the London tube.

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observer
Reply to  Vuk
August 10, 2021 4:12 pm

Corbyn is a decent man but a socialist nitwit. His brother is a liability to the anti-passport movement.

PCman999
Reply to  Vuk
August 10, 2021 9:42 pm

Atheist Hitchens brother was a devout Christian. So it’s not too surprising that Corbyn’s brother is anti-totalitarian, while Corbyn himself might have forced us all to eat crickets and cockroaches for the ‘sake of the environment’ (shout-out to Jeremy Clarkson!)

EOM
Reply to  mark stevens
August 10, 2021 1:33 pm

Vaclav Havel, “parallel realities”: What ‘parallel realities’; in a (psychotic) empire of lies, where truth is deemed and fully punished as treason?

We all are all dead in our sin, certainly deserving Hell. God is perfect and cannot tolerate sin, at all. Paul is inspired to proclaim to the Romans, “All flesh falls short of the glory of God.

There is only one Work that God will ever accept, Jesus Christ’s Perfect Work on the Cross. Christ suffered and died to pay for our sin, all of it, past, present and future. To be saved by that payment, trust Christ, and not anything else. Not doing good. Not following the Ten Commandments, God’s standard. Not rituals such as baptism (a public statement of trusting Christ). Not communion, in eating plain bread and sweet wine, this is an opportunity for us to remember Christ’s sacrifice of Himself for us, His flesh and blood both. Not yourself. Not anything you do or have done. If you add anything to Christ’s Perfect Work on the Cross, you are demonstrating to God that Christ’s work is neither complete nor perfect. God cannot tolerate that.

Provided you trust His Son, once, the Lord will save you, He will take care of your life, death, heaven and everlasting life. He will guide you, through the Holy Spirit to what you are to know, mostly through the Scriptures, but also through being led to understand the His Word in the Scriptures.

That is the parallel reality of which Vaclav Havel refers. Habakkuk, 2:4, explains, “…the just will live by faith”. Unfortunately we are yet in the ‘tent”, -Paul, of our flesh. Our sin nature is neither removed nor improved by salvation, being saved. If we forget God, even after once trusting, our flesh captures us. If we avail ourselves of our new-found access to God the Father, and pray, we will be living by faith. John quoted Christ saying “I am the Way, the Truth, the Life, nobody come to the Father but by Me”. David sometimes forgot to acknowledge God, and each time he did, he lost a war or brought upon himself great personal tragedy. Other times, David did not forget, and the Lord accomplished great things through him. Such is life with those who trust Christ. Read the 23rd Psalm, as a start.

Fraizer
Reply to  EOM
August 10, 2021 3:10 pm

Yea. Truth is truth and there is no substitute.

moreover, all of this none sense is predicted. Read Daniel.

MarkW
Reply to  EOM
August 10, 2021 3:26 pm

While I agree with you, that is as irrelevant to this discussion as anything Mark Ingraham has written in the last few days.

Andrew Wilkins
Reply to  EOM
August 10, 2021 3:40 pm

We already have the CAGW religion to deal with. We don’t need anymore, thanks very much.

PCman999
Reply to  EOM
August 10, 2021 9:44 pm

You’re overselling it here on this website, however the Truth will set you free – so I still gave you an upvote. Peace 😂

Robert Alfred Taylor
Reply to  mark stevens
August 10, 2021 4:09 pm

As always, for those who haven’t read it: Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds (c) 1932. Free .pdf at: https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.58938/page/n15/mode/2up

Mike Maguire
August 10, 2021 10:26 am

Great topic.
I’ve been using that AP story from 1989 for the last decade to show the exact same thing.

However, what people may not realize is that 1989 story was changed to try to hide it. They got rid of the year and got rid of the title earlier this year.

I discus it more here:

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/70534/

“Correct and they’ve been saying it constantly since the late 1980’s…..but there’s been a change in one of the earliest articles of the United Nations stating this below. What is it?”

U.N. Predicts Disaster if Global Warming Not CheckedPETER JAMES SPIELMANN June 29, 1989:

https://apnews.com/article/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0

Here is the change:
I’ve been sending that article and link above to people for at least a decade. Earlier this year, they eliminated the title and date of the article that I inserted above the link here for you to see. 
Clearly, they did it to make it harder to find(hide it) for people doing a search online and also to eliminate the embarrassing title and year(1989) when the Associated Press reported the United Nations trying to scare us with the ” we have 10 years left” false narrative……32 years ago.

So I guess that we must have killed the planet 3 times since then (-:
Funny how the planet shows it by greening up.

…….DEATH BY GREENING (-:

Thom
Reply to  Mike Maguire
August 10, 2021 11:05 am

Thanks for the cite.

Mike Maguire
Reply to  Thom
August 10, 2021 11:30 am

YW Thom!

Mike Maguire
Reply to  Mike Maguire
August 10, 2021 11:51 am

Here’s another good link showing how we are “GREENING THE PLANET TO DEATH!
Now and into the year 2100! Even the IPCC models show it.

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/69258/

zeno
Reply to  Mike Maguire
August 10, 2021 12:01 pm

Hide anything that does not back up the narrative — like the decline.

Reply to  Mike Maguire
August 10, 2021 12:53 pm
TonyG
Reply to  Robert Sheaffer
August 11, 2021 11:33 am

“You can still see the unchanged version on the Wayback Machine:”

For now

Robert Alfred Taylor
Reply to  Mike Maguire
August 10, 2021 4:13 pm

Thanks. I found the same, and wasn’t bright enough to post the change here.

Reply to  Mike Maguire
August 10, 2021 8:32 pm

“when the Associated Press reported the United Nations trying to scare us with the ” we have 10 years left” false narrative……32 years ago.So I guess that we must have killed the planet 3 times since then (-:”

While I don’t subscribe in any waya to the CAGW meme and put no faith in the IPCC, this recurring mis-representation does annoy me.

Too many sceptics mis-interpret “10 years left” as “10 years left before the world is destroyed” rather than what is stated “10 years left to start implementing our draconian measures, otherwise horrible things will happen at some indeterminate time in the future.”.

i.e Nothing that we can pin them down to. They very deliberate don’t say when all of these disasters will eventually occur, just that they will occur at some time in the future if we don’t “act now!

It’s a great scam because they can go on for ever crying “if we don’t act immediately, it will be much worse than it would be if you do everything we want you to.”

PCman999
Reply to  StuM
August 10, 2021 9:49 pm

“He said governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect before it goes beyond human control.” From the yellow highlighted section in the article.

Based on AP’s report, the greenhouse effect is out of humanity’s control more than 20 years ago.

Paul Penrose
Reply to  PCman999
August 11, 2021 10:14 am

Precisely. So every time they demand “action” of some sort, the response should be, “why bother, it has already gone beyond human control”.

Robert of Texas
August 10, 2021 10:28 am

I am sitting here wondering which nations were wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels…then it occurred to me! Atlantis of course. The first victims of Global Warming. But I don’t seem to recall any massive migrations from them…

Rob_Dawg
Reply to  Robert of Texas
August 10, 2021 11:20 am

Wakanda?

mark from the midwest
Reply to  Robert of Texas
August 10, 2021 1:16 pm

They all moved to Vegas, hoping that California would crumble into the sea from a massive earthquake and they could enjoy ocean front vistas and 1/10th the cost

On the outer Barcoo
August 10, 2021 10:31 am

Repent ye sinners! The End is at hand! (Yawn).

Andy Espersen
August 10, 2021 10:33 am

Friedrich Hayek wrote his best selling “The Road to Serfdom” at the end of the second war as a warning to Britain not to continue with planning and controlling her economy. Likewise we are now at war – with “climate change”. And likewise we are now planning ahead with more and more restrictions and curbs on our economy.

Loss of personal and political freedom comes next.

sailor76
Reply to  Andy Espersen
August 10, 2021 12:00 pm

“Loss of personal and political freedom comes next.”

comes next? It’s already here.

BLM, Antifa, Cancel Culture, Google/Youtube/Twitter/Facebook user guidelines only allowing Woke thoughts, Fauci, Biden, Covid-19 mandates like lockdowns, masks, forced vaccinations, etc. (I’m sure I missed a few)

zeno
Reply to  Andy Espersen
August 10, 2021 12:03 pm

Its crazy that nothing you can say to any of the people infected with this delusion has any chance of changing their mind. Even pointing out the failed predictions again and again and showing people the history of evidence of the variability of the climate – and these people will STILL never waver from the fear response.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Andy Espersen
August 10, 2021 12:43 pm

Loss of personal and political freedom is a function of surrendering control of energy use to the “authorities,” since it permits said “authorities” control over everything by extension.

If you can’t keep yourself fed, can’t go where you please when you please, and can’t keep yourself from freezing to death because you are denied access to reliable and affordable energy, you have no personal and political freedom.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Andy Espersen
August 10, 2021 2:43 pm

Loss of personal and political freedom comes next.

It’s here. Australians, like North Koreans, are forcibly prohibited from leaving their own country. Many are forcibly prevented from returning, too.

Andy Espersen
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
August 10, 2021 4:55 pm

That is correct, Zig Zag Wanderer – not because of our war with climate change, but because of our war with Covid.

Exactly the same cynical mindset prevails here : Government(s) are convinced they can successfully fight an endemic virus. They never could – and only by vaccinating will they ever be able to. But arrogantly and full of hubris they set out to curb our freedoms. The freedom to leave your home – the freedom to engage yourself and others in a lawful occupation – the freedom to visit your friends and relatives – the freedom to enter your own country at any time.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Andy Espersen
August 10, 2021 5:26 pm

the freedom to enter your own country at any time

It’s interesting that it mention that. My daughter, travelling alone aged 17, and a UK citizen (on her UK passport instead of her Australian one) ,was nearly refused entry into the UK at Heathrow. They were going to make her return to Australia.

I used to be pretty sure that UK and Australian citizens had a permanent right to enter their own country. Now I’m not so sure that these governments will honour that right.

ralfellis
August 10, 2021 10:37 am

Ha, ha, ha…
Sir Winston Churchill said that the idleness, stupidity, and dishonesty of these nations was caused by the tenets of lsIam, not the climate.

I cannot print his comments here, but read it on-line. The quote comes from his book ‘River War’, and it is the unvarnished and absolute truth – a truth that can no longer be spoken in the 21st century. A religion that preaches predestiny and the supreme will of the god, can never succeed economically. It is like Commmunism – why work if god will take care of everything?

And who would have believed, that the 21st century would become less free than the Victorian era.?

Ralph

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  ralfellis
August 10, 2021 2:48 pm

Sir Winston Churchill said that the idleness, stupidity, and dishonesty of these nations was caused by the tenets of lsIam

I have often remarked on the disparity between Pakistan and India. These are the very same people, their only real difference is religion. Pakistan is an economic basket case, and India is an economic power house. Go figure.

I was looking at the Dead Sea a few years back. Interestingly, the Israelis have made huge industries around gathering minerals from the Dead Sea. Palestinians have exactly the same opportunity, but have done almost nothing.

There is only one common denominator here.

observer
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
August 10, 2021 4:16 pm

Palestinians get crushed economically by the Israelis, and Israelis are heavily subsidised by US tax payers.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  observer
August 10, 2021 5:29 pm

Palestinians get crushed economically by the Israelis, and Israelis are heavily subsidised by US tax payers.

The reason given it not exploiting the Dead Sea like the Israelis had, was insurmountable government regulations. I don’t think that your statement (true or false) could be the reason they don’t exploit it.

Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
August 10, 2021 4:24 pm

Australia and Argentina were ‘colonised’ at similar time. One by the British, one by the Spanish…compare and contrast.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Leo Smith
August 10, 2021 5:31 pm

Australia and Argentina were ‘colonised’ at similar time. One by the British, one by the Spanish…compare and contrast.

I made us same point to a Spanish friend of mine, although I pointed to North America. The resources available in South America were initially much greater, mainly gold, but lots else, but it was squandered by greedy monarchs.

Curious George(@moudryj)
August 10, 2021 10:38 am

How can I legally withdraw my support from the UN? Do I have a say how my taxes should not be used?

Travis
Reply to  Curious George
August 10, 2021 11:44 am

no

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Curious George
August 10, 2021 12:48 pm

Yes I’d like that. Instead of being offered the “option” to donate $1.00 for political campaign support, I’d like the “option” to refuse to allow any of my taxes support the UN, “climate change” policies, the EPA’s efforts to do anything but clean up polluted areas (and CO2 is NOT pollution), and other political boondoggles which are not pursued in my interest or the interests of my country.

Joe
Reply to  AGW is Not Science
August 10, 2021 1:27 pm

One can only dream that some day our country (U.S.A.) will elect a president that will remove the corrupt UN from U.S sovereign soil.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Joe
August 11, 2021 12:03 am

As has been said once or twice on this site, if the UN truly believe Socialism is the way forward, then why do they not relocate to Caracas, Venezuela, a country filthy rich in oil/gas yet cannot put bread on the supermarket shelves for its “beloved” people!!!

Fred Middleton
Reply to  Curious George
August 10, 2021 2:45 pm

The Why there is only one politic body in the United States – Left hand and RINO’s. Elected persons only do things that will not harm the next election.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Curious George
August 10, 2021 2:50 pm

Do I have a say how my taxes should not be used?

In a functioning democracy, you can vote to change this. Sadly, functioning democracies are a vanishing quantity.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
August 11, 2021 12:05 am

A reason why I quit voting some years ago in national elections, only local elections, was because of the extremely low calibre of the candidates standing for election, they were mostly euro-clowns/clones!!!

Greg
August 10, 2021 10:41 am

He said governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect before it goes beyond human control.

Like nuclear fusion it’s always ten year away. The good news it we have 10y to solve AGW and by then we’ll have free electricity from fusion.

Travis
Reply to  Greg
August 10, 2021 11:45 am

also hydrogen power

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Travis
August 11, 2021 12:09 am

I just hope they have measures in place to safely contain the most volatile & explosive element in the Universe!!!

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Greg
August 10, 2021 12:50 pm

So put these claims all together and we’re all good! We have just 10 years to “save ourselves” from the nonexistent “crisis,” and cold fusion will arrive just in time to do it.

I’ll sure sleep better tonight! /sarc

George V
August 10, 2021 10:50 am

“UNEP estimates it would cost the United States at least $100 billion to protect its east coast alone.”

Big whoop, almost a rounding error in the current budgeting process, even if accounting for inflation.

John Tillman
Reply to  George V
August 10, 2021 11:02 am

Even in 1989 dollars, not a staggering amount.

John Tillman
Reply to  John Tillman
August 10, 2021 11:40 am

Defense budget in FY 1989 was $290.2 B.

Reply to  John Tillman
August 10, 2021 12:08 pm

This is equivalent to almost $500B in 2021 dollars considering the 100% inflation since 1990. Something tells me it will be far less than 30 years before we see the next 100%.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  John Tillman
August 11, 2021 12:19 am

Why do you think UN Agenda 21 wants to dismantle the USA? It dislikes the fact of its immense wealth, its ability to defend itself, its ability to keep bullies at bay, the USA should be giving all that wealth to the UN & keep on doing so forever, oh what a waste of life in two bloody world wars last century, to liberate the world from tyranny & oppression, that’s how the UN views the USA a bottomless pit of finance for its Globul Guvment!!! Why are they not concentrating on eradicating all that’s wrong with the world, the lack of democracy, the abuse of women, children, child labour, largely in the Third World countries, they never mention these things demonstrating to me at least that the UN lost its way a long time ago, & such things are not important to them or of interest, they only seek power & wealth & control over others, i.e. Socialism!!!

observer
Reply to  John Tillman
August 11, 2021 2:18 am

“Defence” budget

zeno
Reply to  George V
August 10, 2021 12:04 pm

It is amazing how far we have all fallen as a species able to reason. We are not a serious country in any way anymore.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  George V
August 10, 2021 12:55 pm

The difference being that the $100billion pittance (relatively speaking) need only be spent if the imagined “crisis” arrives, which it won’t, while the trillions “needed” (NOT) to “avert” the imaginary “crisis” will be squandered for nothing, because (a) the “crisis” doesn’t exist; and (b) because the “mitigation” efforts would not work even if the “crisis” was real.

ResourceGuy
August 10, 2021 11:10 am

The UN takes cash, checks, or bitcoin.

Don’t forget to visit our Climate Crusades gift shop too.

John Bell
August 10, 2021 11:11 am

The UN does not hope to control weather, they want to control people, all people.

J Mac
August 10, 2021 11:17 am

Thanks for re-linking us to this AP story from 1989. An ‘Oldie’ but a ‘Goodie’!

Rob_Dawg
August 10, 2021 11:26 am

UNEP estimates it would cost the United States at least $100 billion to protect its east coast alone.

I’d bet that at least $30 billion has been invested along Boston Harbor since 1989. Closer to the harbor not further.

August 10, 2021 12:04 pm

Nothing has changed since it’s been all politics since the inception of the IPCC which was founded for the political purpose of justifying climate change as the excuse to redistribute wealth from those countries that earned it to those that coveted it.

Gary Pearse
August 10, 2021 12:09 pm

Robert, dissenting climate science has been totally marginalized by the “consensus”. Though their CO2 Control Knob has been brilliantly falsified, no science is discussed these days. It’s all a crescendo of: ‘Its happening now and humans are to blame.’

Dissenting climate scientists seem ill equipped to make the shift to the new political front and further ‘science’ is a waste of time. The dark side, however, is very vulnerable in the new battle field.

Here is a formidable example (I have raised this before with little response from dissenters but it should be hammered at every opportunity). 5 billion non-Westerners are embarking on a strategy to rid their countries of poverty and they have chosen coal power to accomplish it. Efforts by the West to stop this unstoppable development have failed miserably.

This means that no matter what side of the debate on climate you are one, we are going to do the Big CO2 experiment! No matter what the West plans to do about their own emissions, C02 is going to climb at an accelerating rate.

Western governments know this but don’t talk about it which is all the more reason to keep hammering it to end the meme. Both Kerry (on open Mike) and Biden who let it slip that if they cant stop this ‘there is no point for us to continue on the fight against fossil fuels’.

Forbes Magazine had the first MSM article on this, reported here on WUWT the other day. I like to think they came upon one of my diatribes on this. The idea is instantly logical and easily understood by all. Arcane scientific arguments not so. The logical response to the latter is “Surely you are not implying that, globally, every university, government, institution, consensus science, NGOs … are all part of a massive conspiracy!”

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Gary Pearse
August 11, 2021 12:27 am

 ‘Its happening now and democratic free-enterprise western countries are to blame.’

There, fixed it for you!!! 😉

Richard M
August 10, 2021 1:09 pm

As a little exercise I decided to see what has happened since the last IPCC report was published in late 2013. Since they tell us that 90% of the “trapped” energy is absorbed by the oceans then we should see a big change. Here is what the data used by the IPCC shows.

https://woodfortrees.org/plot/hadsst3gl/from:2014/to/plot/hadsst3gl/from:2014/to/trend

In case you are wondering the trend is slightly negative. We are coming up on 7 years since the last time they told us we were doomed without a lick of warming in the very area they tell us most of the heat should be located.

ResourceGuy
August 10, 2021 1:11 pm

Start the citizens no confidence vote on the UN.

Joe
August 10, 2021 1:35 pm

I will take alot of mortat fire for this post but I don’t care. Here is what I think.

Climate alarmists told the truth once and only once in my lifetime. I remember it well. Back in the sixties and seventies when they warned an ice age is coming. This spawned a low-level marketing campaign promoting products one could purchase and use to survive the coming cold event. Wood burning stoves were all the rage. This of course was followed by the danger of chimney fires from creosote build up which spawned chimney sweep franchises sold to the business minded entrepreneur. And my favorite, the backyard geodesic dome greenhouse. You could actually grow tomatoes as you watched the coming ice sheet descend on your back yard. The coming ice age, though true, failed to alarm only but a few people for three reasons. 1. It did not create worldwide hysteria among the masses. 2. Large amounts of revenue did not materialize. 3. The next ice age was to far off in the future. With out hysteria, revenue, and the prediction of doom within ones life time, behavioral control of humans could not be achieved. They needed a different approach. 
 
The alarmists knew full well and never disputed the fact that the earth has been cycling in and out of glaciation and interglacial periods for hundreds of thousands of years. (Its my opinion, earths current climate position puts us about two thirds into our current interglacial period or cycle). In addition, they knew then, as they know now where the earth is in this cycle. They needed a new tact. Knowing the climate is warming naturally and will continue for some time, alarmists changed to global warming. However, there is a problem. You cannot change from the truth of a coming ice age to a lie of a global warming catastrophe over night. And certainly not without humans causing it. An alternate doom transition period was needed. A period just long enough to take advantage of the short attention span of most people. 
 
The new topic of alarmism had to be something that occurs naturally but easily blamed on something humans have been doing, burning fossil fuels. Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, Acid Rain. Right around 1980 as I remember, acid rain was going to kill every thing on the planet. All the fish in the oceans, gone! The great lakes, dead! The ability to grow food, gone! Acid rain WILL EAT THE PAINT OFF YOUR CAR! Never mind that the ph level of rain, lakes, rivers and oceans varies naturally over time. This went on for about ten years. The catastrophe never happened and died like every other doom prediction before it.
 
It is important to note that during this doom transition, computers and computer modeling are gaining traction and that many in society believed that computers could and would solve any problem real or perceived that humanity through at them. 
 
Therefore, the transition from a cooling climate prediction to a warming climate was almost complete. Acid rain had run its course. 
The doomers had successfully primed the pumps. 
They managed to convince the masses that there is something wrong with the climate because the models say so. 
 
So on June 23,1988 a guy from NASA testified before congress and launched man made global warming with an emphasis that Co2 is the cause. Perfect. If you exhale you emit Co2. If you combust something Co2 is produced. Give these people a lot of credit. They are patient, and crafty. A few months after the hearings the U.N. created the IPCC. Now the models have worldwide legitimacy.
 
Well about 30 years have passed and all of the model predictions have failed and Co2 has just about run its course. However, do not worry, yet another greenhouse gas is starting to rear its ugly head. Perhaps you have heard it mentioned lately. Yes, that’s right. Co2s wicked stepsister, Methane. So please try and grasp what they are saying. Anything that breathes, burns or digests, is going to cause a climate catastrophe. 
 
It is hard to pinpoint the true motives of the people making these claims. You could blame greed, power, control, or maybe a noble cause to preserve and protect the planet. What is not hard to pinpoint is what is lacking in the discussions. Science, critical thinking and rational thought.
 
Methane too will run its course. What will be next?

John Hultquist
Reply to  Joe
August 10, 2021 8:40 pm

earths current climate position puts us about two thirds into our current interglacial period or cycle”

My Wild Arsed Guess (WAG) is 20%. I’m a fan of a slow development of a glacial advance and a more rapid disintegration. Better evidence will be appreciated.
Guess I’ll do a little searching — later.

betapug
August 10, 2021 1:35 pm

“Brown suggested that compensating Brazil, Indonesia and Kenya for preserving rain forests may be necessary.” looks supremely ironic in view of NASA’s 2019 startling admission that they were wrong, tropical rainforests are actually major sources of CO2, not sinks.
Five years of analyzing data from the OCO2 satellite (launched with great fanfare “to pinpoint the sources of CO2”) seems to now reveal the reason it was suddenly disappeared from public view:
“For as long as we can remember, we’ve talked about Earth’s tropical rainforests as the ‘lungs’ of our planet,” …But that’s not what’s being borne out by our data. We’re seeing that Earth’s tropical regions are a net source of carbon dioxide to the atmosphere, at least since 2009. This changes our understanding of things.”

https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2915/the-atmosphere-getting-a-handle-on-carbon-dioxide/

The admission that “scientists” were completely wrong is a welcome addition to the evidence that “Science” like “Climate” is a dynamic process, not an authorized canon. Unfortunately new discoveries or insights are unlikely to change policy because reality does not drive policy.

In the words of former EU Climate Commissioner Connie Hedegaard,

“Let’s say that science, some decades from now, said ‘we were wrong, it was not about climate’, would it not in any case have been good to do many of things you have to do in order to combat climate change?.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  betapug
August 10, 2021 2:54 pm

Yup. The lungs of the planet are not the forests at all, but the oceans. Always have been, always will be, until CO2 drops to the point that photosynthesis won’t happen.

August 10, 2021 1:52 pm

The caption picture seems to be missing a terminator. Stalking the land and cutting down, with is ray-gun, rodent like humans as we scurry from one shadow to another,

ResourceGuy
August 10, 2021 1:58 pm

Is that an artist rendering of empty suit policy priorities and its aftermath?

To bed B
August 10, 2021 2:04 pm

I just came across this from Australia’s public broadcaster (While we all pay for it, it belong to just far left Australians). Hilarious if not so sad.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  To bed B
August 10, 2021 2:56 pm

Ha ha! Club of Rome started the whole useless computer modelling!

Almost every single metric is diametrically opposite to what actually happened. All to promote Global Governance. They are just so blatant.

Then they talk about the success of the EU. Yet another failed prediction.

Apparently we have to lose some of our self-decisions in order to acquire ‘security’. Riiiigggghhht…

Last edited 5 months ago by Zig Zag Wanderer
Vuk
August 10, 2021 2:33 pm

Griffo,
Where are you? IPCC is need of your support here.

Andrew Wilkins
August 10, 2021 2:56 pm

So Griff, which of the 1989 predictions came true? You’ve gone rather quiet…

ResourceGuy
Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
August 10, 2021 3:01 pm

Orders from above, all trolls are to stand down during the MSM main thrust event. Trolls just get in the way and muddle the message at this point.

MarkW
Reply to  ResourceGuy
August 10, 2021 3:36 pm

Ingraham apparently didn’t get the memo.

Tom
August 10, 2021 4:33 pm

It turns out “The Day AfterTomorrow” is really just the day after tomorrow.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Tom
August 11, 2021 12:40 am

I do hope that Griffy baby does realise that “The Day After Tomorrow” is only a Hollywood movie, it’s not real, it’s not a documentary film, & that he also realises that Hollywood makes up stories for peoples entertainment!!!

Gordon A. Dressler
August 10, 2021 4:37 pm

“If we can conquer climate, the whole world will become stronger and nobler.” — Ellsworth Huntington, 1915, per above article.

I’ll go one tiny step further, if we can conquer the universe, the whole world will seem smaller and less important.

Apparently, human philosophers have learned little over the last 106 years.

Matthew Sykes
August 11, 2021 12:14 am

I want to know why, where and who, is responsible for the massive hype in climate change in the last two years.

It was almost a dead subject a few years back, and then we had Greta, XR, and a huge increase in alarmism coming from nay quarters.

Who is behind it? Why the push?

Is it because they see a period of solar cooling coming up and are desperate to get some policies in place before their theory is discredited entirely?

garboard
August 11, 2021 5:49 am

the PR battle is over and we lost . the EU and US are obsessed with climate doom and renewables . so over the next 5 or 10 years the public will become increasingly aware that China India and the developing world continue pumping ever increasing amounts of co2 into the atmosphere and co2 will continue to rise . by that time intermittent energy in the US and Europe will have become commonplace not aspirational . we’ll just have to see how the public reacts to rolling blackouts , energy shortfalls , higher prices for electricity and everything else ,a growing disparity between fantasy and reality . and the many largely unforeseen problems that will undoubtedly come with totally re engineering society by ad hoc government planning not the slow evolution of the free market that has brought us amazing progress and prosperity .while meanwhile the rest of the world follows a different path . the pendulum has swung hard one way and will swing back the other . but it will take some time before people have to live with the consequences brought about by today’s media stampede and wake up to the reality . I suspect the media will hang on for quite a while . I think it may be like the Viet nam war where it took Walter Cronkite looking the public in the eye telling them the war was lost before public opinion changed . will there be a major (liberal ) media outlet that finally wakes up and starts speaking the truth ? I hope so .

Stillayankee
August 11, 2021 5:50 am

Thing is, they seem to use 1 or 2 heat waves over a couple of years as now somehow being ‘extreme’ where in many parts of the U.S. (as well as other parts of the world where 90⁰ is occasionally common) there used to be at least 1 heat wave every single summer. Now a lot of places go a couple of years without seeing anything close to what used to be called a ‘heat wave.
What I have noticed, and others have been beating this drum as well, is that nighttime low temps have increased not that daytime high temps have (over the course of year[s]) due to increased water vapor.

Ruleo
August 11, 2021 1:33 pm

Someone looked up that AP story recently.

https://archive.is/vF3Tv <- archived 2 months ago

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