Europe’s ‘Unprecedented Manmade Floods’

Separating myth from reality about extreme weather events, today and over the centuries

Paul Driessen

Deadly floods in Germany and Belgium have put climate change back in the news in time for the COP-26 climate gabfest in Glasgow. Not surprisingly, government officials again blamed fossil fuels, greenhouse gases and manmade climate change for the calamities, to deflect attention from their official incompetence – as they did with SuperStorm Sandy and recurrent wildfires.

They’re blaming the very fossil fuels that power Europe’s economy; build, heat and electrify homes; and power the boats, ambulances and other equipment that were used to rescue people, recover bodies, and nurse survivors back to health.

They’re the same officials who could and should have prepared their communities for floods like those that hit Germany and Europe every few decades. But failed to do so. They were warned days in advance that the rains and floods were coming – and were told almost exactly where and when the rains and floods would hit. But did nothing.

They were supposed to warn people – and get them out of harm’s way. But they failed to warn their citizens that they, their homes and their children would be swept away by raging waters, if they didn’t evacuate immediately.

No wonder they want to blame manmade climate change – for almost every extreme weather event. They want to avoid accountability and protect their political and financial stakes in Climate Crisis, Inc. About the last thing they want people to see are the climate realities that would confound their myths and fear-mongering, put today’s extreme weather events into proper context, and keep their constituents from being bamboozled by future climate lies.

FLOODS are not uncommon, they are not unprecedented, and they are not kind to people, civilization or nature. Indeed, devastating rains and floods occur with regularity, and the more concrete, asphalt and buildings we put in cities, the less drainage we have, and the more flooding we get – in Europe, Houston, New York City and everywhere else.

The great Arno River flood of 1966 impacted much of Florence, Italy and damaged or destroyed many magnificent works of art. The 2002 Vltava River flood left high water marks 10 feet up on buildings, and 30 feet above the river’s normal water line; 1784, 1845 and 1997 Czech floods were even worse.

What caused all those floods? the deadly German floods of 1790 and 1910? the Johnstown, Ohio Flood of 1889? the 1976 Big Thompson Canyon flash flood that roared down a narrow Colorado gorge, leaving residents and campers few avenues of escape? All those floods were natural, but today’s are manmade?

HURRICANES are also common, recurring, devastating and deadly. It’s fashionable to blame Harvey and Irma and other recent hurricanes on fossil fuels, carbon dioxide, and us humans. But it’s ridiculous.

Between Hurricane Wilma in 2005 and Harvey and Irma in 2017, the United States enjoyed a 12-year major hurricane drought: 12 years without one Category 3-5 hurricane making US landfall. It was the longest period in recorded history that America was not hammered by a major hurricane.

If we’re going to blame every modern era hurricane on fossil fuel emissions – shouldn’t we also thank fossil fuel emissions for that unprecedented 12-year absence of truly deadly hurricanes? (It wouldn’t be honest science, but it would be honest politics.) A far better approach would be to prepare better for all of Mother Nature’s future onslaughts.

US property damage in raw dollars from hurricanes has certainly increased – because more people are building more expensive homes along our coasts, where hurricanes strike with regularity and intensity. But death tolls are way down, because buildings are built better, and (unlike in Germany and Belgium recently) people get warned far enough in advance to get out of harm’s way.

Equally positive, global property damage from weather-related disasters, as a proportion of global gross domestic product, went down significantly since 1990, largely for the same reasons. Deaths are down too.

TORNADOES. A Washington Post chart makes it abundantly clear that violent F4 and F5 tornadoes have been less frequent the last 35 years than they were during the 35-year period 1950-1985. Even more amazing, for the first time in history, the United States was not hit by a single violent twister in 2018. Was that because of fossil fuel emissions?

Indeed, very few tornadoes compare to the horrific Gainesville, Georgia tornado of 1936, which killed 450 people – or the even more horrendous, record-setting the Tri-State Twister of 1925. That one lasted 3.5 hours, traveled 220 miles, obliterated entire towns, and killed nearly 700 people

BLIZZARDS are also common. But predictably, almost every big winter storm nowadays gets blamed on “carbon” (CO2) emissions, and we’re told to expect far more if we don’t end fossil fuel use.

Climate con artists want us to forget the Nebraska School Children’s Blizzard of January 1888, when a relatively warm day, with snow melting all around, suddenly became a vicious storm. In less than three hours, Midwestern temperatures plummeted from plus-35 to minus-20 and even minus-40. Winds howled down from the North, bringing several feet of heavy snow. The storm killed some 500 people across several states, most of them in Nebraska. Many were children trying to get home from collapsing schoolhouses, and parents out looking for their children.

That blizzard made US and international news. But it was soon overshadowed by the Great Mid-Atlantic Blizzard of March 1888. That one buried New York City and much of the East Coast under mountains of snow, and killed over 400 people. Dozens of New Yorkers weren’t found until days later, when their frozen remains were dug out of massive snow drifts.

TEMPERATURES. The dawn of the industrial age coincides with the end of the Little Ice Age, so the warming is mostly natural.Climate models predict much higher temperatures than we’re experiencing. And average global temperatures have barely budged since 2002, except during El Niño events.

People once learned important lessons from extreme weather events. Midwesterners invested in stronger homes and schools, developed better weather forecasting, made sure they kept winter clothing with them and their kids even when the weather looked balmy, and built tornado warning systems and shelters. New York City built a subway system, enabling people to travel underground, safe from deadly cold and snow.

Today, too many government officials prefer to collude with activists, subsidy-seekers and media sidekicks to blame “manmade climate change” for every disaster. They ignore their own roles in the property damage and death from natural disasters like SuperStorm Sandy. They pretend they can control the climate and weather – while getting richer and more powerful embracing anti-fossil fuel policies.

After countless millennia of natural disasters, we’re supposed to believe extreme weather events are now manmade, and temperature changes, droughts and storms are now our fault. At humanity’s most technologically advanced level in history, we’re supposed to be unable to cope with, adapt to or recover from climate and weather events.

We cannot afford to be bamboozled by climate con artists – who for their own selfish reasons claim we must immediately get rid of the fossil fuels that provide 80% of America’s and the world’s energy … and then magically replace those fuels with expensive, intermittent, weather-dependent, land-intensive and  raw materials-hungry wind, solar and battery power.

If we let ourselves get deluded, electricity prices will skyrocket, blackouts will become commonplace, our jobs will disappear, our living standards will plummet, our lives will be at greater risk, our environment will be destroyed – and we’ll deserve what we get. It’s time to fully and honestly reassess “the science” behind this supposed “climate crisis.”

Paul Driessen is senior policy analyst for the Committee For A Constructive Tomorrow (www.CFACT.org) and author of books and articles on energy, climate change, human rights and economic development.

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Ben Vorlich
August 10, 2021 6:14 am

Climate Change is a get out of jail free card for all incompetent, lazy, stupid, time serving civil servant, manager, Bureaucrat or man who should be clearing the drains

griff
Reply to  Ben Vorlich
August 10, 2021 8:08 am

In Redbridge in London during the recent flash floods they’d cleared the drains, but the intensity of the rain washed in so much debris so fast they were quickly blocked.

Tim Spence
Reply to  griff
August 10, 2021 8:34 am

In which case it would be the street debris that the street cleaners had failed to clear.

gringojay
Reply to  Tim Spence
August 10, 2021 10:11 am

Life imitates art (1960s Cosby).

“Noah! …. It’s the Lord, Noah. …. I want you to build an ark…. I’m going to destroy the world… I’m going to make it rain for a thousand days….”

“Listen, do this and you’ll save water. Let it rain for 40 days and 40 nights and wait for the sewers to back up”, replied Noah (who, when a neighbor asked for a hint why the ark replied: “How long can you tread water?”)

Jak
Reply to  gringojay
August 11, 2021 6:58 am

Geoengineeringwatch.org

Chuck no longer in Houston
Reply to  Jak
August 12, 2021 10:33 am

Mods, this guy Jak is a spammer. Please block.

MarkW
Reply to  griff
August 10, 2021 8:39 am

Since the intensity of the storms was well within historical norms, what else was going on that caused more then the average amount of garbage on the streets?

MarkW
Reply to  MarkW
August 10, 2021 3:37 pm

I was guessing it must have been a Greenpeace rally, or a BLM riot.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  MarkW
August 11, 2021 5:51 am

One of the problems in London is that a great many gardens have been paved over to provide parking for cars and the rain cannot just soak into the ground but has to run off into the streets and drains.

Jak
Reply to  Dave Andrews
August 11, 2021 6:59 am

Geoengineeringwatch.org

Chuck no longer in Houston
Reply to  Jak
August 12, 2021 10:34 am

Mods, Jak is a spammer, please block

Andrew Wilkins
Reply to  griff
August 10, 2021 9:05 am

So council workers failing to keep the streets clean is the fault of climate change, is that what you’re saying?
Were the street sweepers too hot to do their jobs (what with it being 1 degree warmer than 100 years ago)?

Matthew Sykes
Reply to  griff
August 11, 2021 12:11 am

Locals said the drains were already partly blocked.

Jak
Reply to  Matthew Sykes
August 11, 2021 6:59 am

Geoengineeringwatch.org

2hotel9
Reply to  griff
August 11, 2021 4:59 am

And another lie from the lie spewing liar.

Jak
Reply to  griff
August 11, 2021 6:58 am

Geoengineeringwatch.org

MarkW2
Reply to  Ben Vorlich
August 10, 2021 9:07 am

Can anyone point me in the direction of any work that’s been done on the impact of an increased urban heat island effect, not on temperature readings, which I know Anthony and others have looked at, but on the capacity of warmer air over cities to hold moisture.

I raise this because there’s been a massive amount of new building work in Central London over the past 20 to 30 years, from Docklands to the Square Mile of the City. In very simple terms this must be dramatically increasing the capacity of the air above London to hold water, which must go a considerable way to explain why it would be perfectly reasonable for more cloudbursts and flash floods to occur.

This would also be very likely to increase the probability of serious flooding in areas on the outskirts of London… such as Redbridge. Combine this with less open ground to absorb water and it would be hardly surprising if more flooding is occurring in and around large cities. The really interesting point here, of course, is that while this effect would undoubtedly be down to man it has absolutely nothing whatever to do with CO2.

Yet another example of spending billions to address the wrong problem.

MarkW
Reply to  MarkW2
August 10, 2021 9:57 am

I would suspect that any extra water picked up above cities, would be dumped down wind of cities, not on the cities themselves.

Jak
Reply to  MarkW
August 11, 2021 7:01 am

Geoengineeringwatch.org operations Popeye look into this

Pipedream
Reply to  MarkW2
August 11, 2021 12:13 am

The issues in Redbridge are more to do with overpopulation straining the existing infrastructure. Particularly the large number of garages at the bottom of gardens converted into lodgings for illegals.

Jak
Reply to  MarkW2
August 11, 2021 7:01 am

Geoengineeringwatch.org operations Popeye look into this

Gerry, England
Reply to  MarkW2
August 11, 2021 8:26 am

Yes, watch the episode of Massive Engineering Mistakes that covers Hurricane Harvey. Prepare to be amazed that climate change is not mentioned but watch for the bit at the end when they suggest that the increase in tall buildings in Houston caused the weather system to stay put and dump more rain than usual.

Stephen Haner
August 10, 2021 6:16 am

Paasau on the Danube puts the history right on the side of a public building. This flood reportedly did not top 1501…when there was far less upstream development to accelerate runoff.

Passau Water Levels.jpg
griff
Reply to  Stephen Haner
August 10, 2021 8:09 am

I’m not aware that Passau was involved in the recent flood event rainfall in the south of North Rhine-Westphalia and north of Rhineland-Palatinate 

Reply to  griff
August 10, 2021 8:32 am

It wasn’t, but as flooding trends are discussed it’s part of the story.

MarkW
Reply to  griff
August 10, 2021 8:40 am

So what?
There is data that shows that the one flood that you drool over was also small compared to historical floods.

DonM
Reply to  griff
August 10, 2021 9:07 am

Griff:

“I’m not aware ….”

You can save a lot of typing time. Stop after 15 characters and your statements will relay the same meaning.

Jak
Reply to  DonM
August 11, 2021 7:02 am

Geoengineeringwatch.org operations Popeye look into this

Chuck no longer in Houston
Reply to  Jak
August 12, 2021 10:56 am

“Jak” is a spammer.

Hari Seldon
Reply to  griff
August 10, 2021 9:50 am

Dear Mr. Griff,

Some information for you directly from Germany: One of the mostly damaged places involved in the recent flood was the Ahr-walley. The same well documented floodings happened in 1804 and in 1910 there. The “problem” with the Ahr-walley: The villages have been built in the very narrow alley practically in the river bed almost without any special measurements against flooding. Additionally, due to the “digitalisation”-hype the inhabitants were alerted by e-mail at 23:15 o´clock during Friday night. You could imagine how many people read the e-mails (asynchronous communication) at 23:15 during the night. Earlier very loud sirens (synchronous communication) were used to alert people. However, sirens has been declared as “not modern enough”, and the local authorities changed to e-mails. The bottom line: The recent flood events in Germany affected settlements which experienced similar flood events even some hundred years ago even repeatedly. So these flood events and catastrophes have very clearly nothing to do with climate and/or CO2.

DaveS
Reply to  griff
August 11, 2021 5:01 am

You were shown a link to a detailed historical flooding record of the area to which you refer. You have no excuse for continuing to pretend that the recent floods in that area were in any sense unprecedented.

Jak
Reply to  DaveS
August 11, 2021 7:03 am

Geoengineeringwatch.org operations Popeye look into this

Hari Seldon
Reply to  griff
August 11, 2021 8:26 am

Dear Mr. Griff,

Here is a contemporary illustration concerning the 1804 flooding event in the Ahr-walley:

Bild vom Ahrhochwasser 1804. Zeitgenössische Lithographie.png
Right-Handed Shark
August 10, 2021 6:19 am

I was going to comment on this article but I’m afraid some idiot will hijack it and make it about peak oil..

Reply to  Right-Handed Shark
August 10, 2021 6:28 am

And you started with 🙁

Reply to  Right-Handed Shark
August 10, 2021 7:01 am

..

Last edited 1 month ago by Krishna Gans
Andrew Wilkins
August 10, 2021 6:32 am

But, but, but Al Gore told his we were all going to die!
Surely Al wasn’t wrong?

BTW how many Wadhams of ice is there at the North Pole right now?

griff
Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
August 10, 2021 8:12 am

890,000 sq km less than the 200s average for this date, 1,788,000 sq km less than the 1990s average, 2,481,000 sq km less than the 1980s average

MarkW
Reply to  griff
August 10, 2021 8:41 am

In other words, despite claims that we would be ice free by now, the levels of ice are the same as they were 30 years ago.

Smart Rock
Reply to  MarkW
August 10, 2021 9:58 am

No MarkW. Griff’s figures are right and there is less ice at this date than 30 years ago. What the grifter did NOT say was that today’s number is 77,000 km² more than the 2011-2020 average. I.e. the post-1979 decline may have bottomed out and be ready for a rebound (NSIDC numbers). Or it may not. Trend is very erratic at the annual scale, we really have to have a decade of non-decline to be sure. Or wait for the AMO to reverse.

Wadham is discredited, even among warmists.

The 1979 start date for satellite ice records is very convenient for the alarmists, as it was more or less at the maximum following the 1910-1940 warming and the 1940-1970 cooling periods.

Graemethecat
Reply to  Smart Rock
August 11, 2021 3:00 am

Griff isn’t terribly bright, but he is cunning in the way he lies with statistics.

Andrew Wilkins
Reply to  griff
August 10, 2021 9:02 am

So what you’re saying Griff is that the ice hasn’t disappeared. That’s weird, because Prof Wadhams (and many others) said it would be long gone by now.

MarkW
Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
August 10, 2021 10:00 am

Surely Wadham was correct, and it’s only a minor math error that makes it look like there is still ice in the arctic.

Andrew Wilkins
Reply to  MarkW
August 10, 2021 10:18 am

+/- 5 Gores of ice, I’m told.

Loren C. Wilson
Reply to  griff
August 10, 2021 5:11 pm

But more than early decades and centuries. To no one’s surprise, as we warmed up after the coldest period since the interglacial began, the polar ice cap shrank a little. It was smaller during each of the warming periods, and larger during the colder periods. Not the end of the world, or even the end of polar bears.

Charles Fairbairn
Reply to  Loren C. Wilson
August 11, 2021 4:35 am

Overall, if you add the two icecaps you have an increase in ice. See: sunshinehours.wordpress.com

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  griff
August 12, 2021 4:59 am

How about the Eemian average? I’ll wait….

Jak
Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
August 11, 2021 7:04 am

Geoengineeringwatch.org operations Popeye look into this

fretslider
August 10, 2021 6:57 am

Thanks to EU directive 2007/60/EC we had floods in the Somerset Levels. There are quite a few directives and frameworks.

“But they failed to warn their citizens”

Personally, I don’t buy into the incompetence argument. Even the trees stand to attention in Germany.

Reply to  fretslider
August 10, 2021 8:14 am

You can buy into it as there was no warning at all despite knowledge about days before.
No radio, no tv station, no responsible politician was about to inform the citizens, btw. they acknowledged their failure.
And people are sued.

fretslider
Reply to  Krishna Gans
August 10, 2021 8:46 am

there was no warning at all

Isn’t a million miles from

But they failed to warn their citizens

Given what happened how could they avoid  acknowledging that failure after the event?

Reply to  fretslider
August 10, 2021 8:57 am

That they didn’t warn at time and that there where failours in the system

Robert Hanson
Reply to  Krishna Gans
August 11, 2021 4:56 pm

Note just just over the border in Holland and Belgium people were warned, they fled the danger areas, and as far as I know no one died from the floods.

griff
Reply to  fretslider
August 10, 2021 8:14 am

Utter nonsense. If you had read the post flood report it concludes that even with the extra pumps later provided and with dredging, the majority of the flooding would still have taken place.

And the Met Office confirms the UK is 6% wetter over the last 30 years on average (and the extra isn’t uniformly distributed). The levels flooded due to an increase in severe rainfall events in the UK, due to climate change. (We’ve had 20 years of increasing floods, not seen last century)

Reply to  griff
August 10, 2021 8:36 am

fredslider talks about Germany and people warning not British water pumps.

fretslider
Reply to  Krishna Gans
August 10, 2021 8:48 am

British water pumps.”

Ok show me where I mention British water pumps.

Another one with a vivid imagination.

Reply to  fretslider
August 10, 2021 8:52 am

Mine was an answer to griff, just becaus of what you wrote.
Comprehensive reading wouldn’t be bad 😀

fretslider
Reply to  Krishna Gans
August 10, 2021 8:58 am

Talking bolleaux is your forte

Keep it up

Reply to  fretslider
August 10, 2021 9:27 am

Sorry, can’t follow what you mean. Did I attack you ? Can’t see it.

Smart Rock
Reply to  fretslider
August 10, 2021 10:23 am

fretful: you appear to be knee-jerking without taking careful note of whom a reply is directed to, or actually reading the reply. Slow down a bit, old horse. And lay off krishna, whose comments often supply useful facts and observations from Germany.

MarkW
Reply to  griff
August 10, 2021 8:43 am

In whatever world you live in griffiepoo, warning people about floods makes floods not happen?

The fact remains that over the centuries, much bigger floods have occurred in this area.

Smart Rock
Reply to  MarkW
August 10, 2021 10:24 am

Warning the general population about impending floods is one thing. Not releasing water from overfull reservoirs in advance of the predicted rainstorm to (maybe) avoid the worst of the flooding is another (https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/07/19/germanys-katrina-officials-left-dams-full-for-weeks-even-with-heavy-rains-in-the-forecast/). And climate-obsessed public servants in Germany are guilty of both.

John Peter
Reply to  Smart Rock
August 10, 2021 12:31 pm

Sounds like what they did in Australia a few years ago as the climate scientists had forecast relentless drought as a result of climate change and then the heavens opened up in earnest.

fretslider
Reply to  griff
August 10, 2021 8:47 am

The Met Office says we are having a hotter drier summer, griff – the opposite of the truth.

So don’t quote them to me. They lie and everybody knows it.

Reply to  griff
August 10, 2021 8:59 am

Weather around the world is mostly cool/cold so the griffter has nothing to say….but wait….he never has anything real to comment. Hows about that snow in Brazil and New Zealand.

Mike Lowe
Reply to  Anti-griff
August 10, 2021 12:43 pm

But only in the South Island of New Zealand where it is expected regularly each winter. But that was no excuse for the disgusting lies on TVNZ News last night, wherein every recent event of flood and fire were described as due to “Climate Change”. Whereby every commentator and so-called “reporter” demonstrated their ignorance and gullibility!

Mike Lowe
Reply to  Anti-griff
August 10, 2021 1:24 pm

Only in the South of New Zealand, where it is expected annually. But that did not stop the most ignorant of reports of “Climate Change” on the TVNZ News last night. Every so-called “reporter” thereby exhibiting their ignorance and gullibility!

Simon
Reply to  Anti-griff
August 10, 2021 8:40 pm

NZ had a very warm winter. Exceptionally so.

Andrew Wilkins
Reply to  griff
August 10, 2021 9:08 am

Wow, 6% wetter! Quick, Marjorie, get me my galoshes!!!

MarkW
Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
August 10, 2021 10:02 am

“Woman, where is my super suit?”
Frozone

Andrew Wilkins
Reply to  griff
August 10, 2021 9:30 am

Hmmmm….
…. let’s have a look at Summer precipitation in the UK. It must be at record levels to produce all the recent scary floods Griff is chuntering on about. Oh, hang on, the levels are perfectly normal. Now, what do you have to say Griff?
Met Office precipitation data

UK.gif
Andrew Wilkins
Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
August 10, 2021 9:35 am

I tell you what, let’s just look at England, where most of the scary floods happened. Oh, hang on, it’s still perfectly normal

Last edited 1 month ago by Andrew Wilkins
Andrew Wilkins
Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
August 10, 2021 9:39 am

Now let’s try the graph….

England (1).gif
Mike Lowe
Reply to  griff
August 10, 2021 12:34 pm

Griffy – correlation does not prove causation, as you well know.

DaveS
Reply to  Mike Lowe
August 11, 2021 5:09 am

Probably not a good idea to assume Griff knows anything.

LdB
Reply to  griff
August 10, 2021 7:21 pm

6% wow the UK will soon roll over and capsize with all that extra water.

You guys moan when you have not enough water, you moan when you have to much. So perhaps you need to define the exact perfect amount and we will see if we can find you somewhere to live Griff.

Graemethecat
Reply to  griff
August 11, 2021 3:04 am

So the UK is 6% wetter on average, according to the Met Office. Is this necessarily a bad thing? What about their predictions of drought? I thought we were going to get a Mediterranean climate with GW.

2hotel9
Reply to  griff
August 11, 2021 5:07 am

And yet the same lies the lie spewing liar spews everyday. History laughs at your continual spewing of lies you never ending spewer of lies.

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  griff
August 12, 2021 5:01 am

Nonsense. As is Slingo’s Met. office.

Rusty
Reply to  fretslider
August 10, 2021 8:55 am

German efficiency is a myth. They can be just as incompetent or corrupt as anyone else. e.g. Volkswagen emissions fraud.

DonM
Reply to  Rusty
August 10, 2021 9:13 am

The emissions fraud was an efficient way around goofy regs … until they got caught.

Alba
Reply to  Rusty
August 10, 2021 11:17 am

The myth definitely applies to trains. In June 2018 I wanted to travel from Stuttgart to Geislingen an der Steige. The first train was cancelled (technical reasons). I got on the second train but before it left all the passengers were told to get off. The train wasn’t going anywhere. The third train got as far as Pochlingen and was halted as someone had committed suicide on the line ahead. That was hardly DB’s fault but the supply of buses to ferry passengers forward was abysmal. A few days later I travelled from Geislingen to Ulm. On my way back I got on a train but after waiting quite a while beyond its scheduled departure time all the passengers were told to get off. 

Climate believer
Reply to  fretslider
August 10, 2021 9:01 am

“Personally, I don’t buy into the incompetence argument.”

Surprising, but probably true.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/german-regional-officials-investigated-flood-warnings-79310895

AGW is Not Science
August 10, 2021 6:58 am

I’ve made similar points many times – if they’re going to “blame” so-called “climate change” for “bad” weather. they also have to credit “climate change” for all the good weather.

As I like to say, that “longest period on record” without a major hurricane hitting the US is unprecedented, and during the period when “climate change impacts” are supposed to be “seen.” Ditto for the only year (2018!) on record without a single violent tornado (F3 or higher), despite better tools to identify and observe such storms than ever. Ooops!

I take some pleasure in using their own stupid (and in their case misused) “buzzwords” for good “weather news.” 😛

MarkW
Reply to  AGW is Not Science
August 10, 2021 10:04 am

As every good warmunist knows, CO2 is only capable of doing bad stuff.
Everything good, comes from government.

Alba
Reply to  MarkW
August 10, 2021 11:19 am

Unless its Donald Trump who’s in charge and then (so they tell us) nothing good comes from the government.

Simon
Reply to  Alba
August 10, 2021 11:35 pm

Nope, the vaccine he got through was a good thing.

Alan the Brit
August 10, 2021 7:00 am

In my experience as a structural engineer & who has worked on many a civil engineering project, (when you’re self-employed one cannot be too choosey what work you accept to undertake), most drainage issues are a result of poorly or inadequately designed drainage infrastructure in designated catchment areas. There is of course societal changes in residential areas where to reduce maintenance, grassed areas are paved over either for saving grass mowing, or to provide parking areas for one, two, or more cars in domestic situations, requiring redesign of drainage locally but which rarely gets done!!! So yes, these things are manmade!!!

Any news on those electrically powered Jumbo-Jets yet, have they solved the rubber band issues yet, or are they just going to be for the peasant classes, & the real useful liquid fuels will be reserved for the wealthy ruling intellectual elites??? They’ve GOT to reduce the World population somehow!!! Perhaps some communist country somewhere might produce a laboratory created deadly virus that could do it!!! Who knows???

oeman 50
Reply to  Alan the Brit
August 10, 2021 7:24 am

About 20 years ago, a slow-moving tropical storm dumped over 10 inches of rain on my city in a matter of hours. The recently installed floodwall, installed to keep the river in its channel, instead trapped the water in lower parts of the city because the poorly maintained drainage system was filled with trees and old debris. So you hit the nail on the head, Alan.

Jenne
August 10, 2021 7:03 am

just for the sake of it, Dutch KNMI (now well known for extreme weather event attribution) were honest enough to report that they could not find a climate signal for the 2013 Central European flooding

https://www.knmi.nl/kennis-en-datacentrum/achtergrond/central-european-flooding-2013

from the website above:

Climate change
Since 1950 (the start of the E-OBS dataset for Europe) the 4- and 10-day precipitation amounts in the Elbe and Danube basins reached peak values between April and September at or above the current May/June 2013 values several times (Figure 10). There is no clear indication of clustering of the more extreme events towards the end of the time series. Therefore, the data do not indicate that these extreme events occur more often now than in the 1950s as a result of a warming climate.

Other indicators for changes in extreme precipitation in this area do not show any clear climate change signal either (source: ECA&D). The station trends in the number of days with (very) heavy precipitation do not indicate wide-spread positive values in the region since 1950. Figure 11 suggests a trend towards more heavy precipitation days in May while the opposite seems the case in June, but non-significant station trends (green circles) generally dominate the map. 

A similar pattern emerges when the trends for the shorter period since about 1980 are considered (not shown). This is different from the winter season in which a significant shift towards wetter conditions dominates in this region.

In conclusion, there is no convincing evidence of a tendency towards more extreme precipitation events in this region during the warm season. 

rbabcock
Reply to  Jenne
August 10, 2021 7:44 am

.. and shortly after this was published the author was given “early retirement”.

Global Cooling
August 10, 2021 7:12 am

Floods are a man-made problem. Chinese dams have large number of casualties. Zoning regulators drive construction to the river banks and beaches. Wet areas are drained with small ditches, pipes and rivers.

Devils Tower
August 10, 2021 7:13 am

Does anyone know if the Obama’s mansion on Martha’s Vinyard is being subsidized by tax payers thru flood plain insurance?

They realy seem to be worried…

oeman 50
August 10, 2021 7:26 am

It doesn’t matter what causes a flood, if you get warnings, you should pay attention to them and act!

MarkW
August 10, 2021 7:33 am

A bit off topic, but well in line with government wanting to make sure that the citizens don’t know enough to object:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/oregon-governor-signs-bill-suspending-math-reading-proficiency-requirements-for-hs-graduates

Ron Long
Reply to  MarkW
August 10, 2021 7:55 am

MarkW, your posting of the Oregon nonsense is not a bit off topic, these participation trophy high school graduates in Oregon are the future consumers/believers of the CAGW nonsense, and socialism is the only solution (socialism is everyone suffers equally).

MarkW
Reply to  Ron Long
August 10, 2021 8:45 am

Everyone suffers, except those who run government.

buggs
Reply to  MarkW
August 10, 2021 10:34 am

I disagree with the “everyone suffers” notion. If you have utility to the ruling class you need not suffer. Actors, athletes, fellow multi-millionaires, useful idiots all have a place. While the older books like Animal Farm and 1984 illustrate the direction we’re heading admirably, I find the Hunger Games movies to be more representative.

The’ everyone suffers applies well to most of us schleps (95% or more) but the elites/governing rulers will live in the cities, while most of us will live in the districts. I don’t expect the actual “hunger games” aspect to come to fruition, just the part where we aren’t allowed to live like we do now, according to our efforts and abilities. A universally low standard of living with commensurate low life expectancy would seem to be DEF goal.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Ron Long
August 10, 2021 2:05 pm

these participation trophy high school graduates in Oregon are the future consumers/believers of the CAGW nonsense, and socialism is the only solution (socialism is everyone suffers equally).

These days every student gets full Marx.

(unashamedly stolen statement)

Filippo Turturici
August 10, 2021 7:56 am

1966 did not it just Florence, but also Venice and her region up to the Alps, with a record (for XXth and XXIst century) “high water” in the city and flooding everywhere in the region. 55 years later, not enough was done yet and in case of a recurrence of this event, we would be badly affected again. Maybe even worse, because now we are richer, more industrialized and with more houses and infrastructures around. But for sure the CO2 emitters will be blamed.

John Furst
August 10, 2021 8:00 am

Correction: the 1889 flood hit Johnstown, Pennsylvania. Earthen dam break.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  John Furst
August 10, 2021 11:48 am

I saw a History Channel show recently that said the Johnstown Flood could have been caused by the Steel Magnate, Andrew Carnegie’s CEO at the time, who might have weakend the earthen dam by making changes to it. He owned a Club for the Rich and Famous at that location which was quite famous at the time.

Of course, there was a tremendous rainstorm that happened during the collapse, so it could have been the water alone.

They said when the dam broke, the people at the club jumped on the telegraph to warn people downstream, but apparently, these kinds of warnings were commonplace about the dam and the warnings were ignored. I think about 2,000 people died from the flooding.

Paul Johnson
Reply to  Tom Abbott
August 10, 2021 7:56 pm

Read David McCollough’s great early book, appropriately named “The Johnstown Flood”.

Paul Johnson
Reply to  John Furst
August 10, 2021 7:52 pm

The only man-made flooding in Germany was the “Dam-Busters” raid in 1943.

griff
August 10, 2021 8:07 am

They’re the same officials who could and should have prepared their communities for floods like those that hit Germany and Europe every few decades. 

but the recent floods were NOT the ‘floods that hit Germany and Europe every few decades’: they were far more intense and damaging and widespread than those: that’s the whole point.

One of the Dutch towns worst hit had had really extensive floodproofing following previous record floods: the whole Dutch ‘room for the river’ philosophy applied. And it still flooded, this time in summer.

The heavy rainfall in the south of North Rhine-Westphalia and north of Rhineland-Palatinate in Germany produced accumulations which averaged 100 to 150 mm (3.9 to 5.9 in) in 24 hours, equivalent to more than a month’s worth of rain. In Reifferscheid, 207 mm (8.1 in) fell within a nine-hour period while Cologne observed 154 mm (6.1 in) in 24 hours. Some of the affected regions may not have seen rainfall of this magnitude in the last 1,000 years.

That’s the issue: nobody could have prepared sufficiently for widespread summer 1 in 1,000 year floods after that scale of rainfall.

And those floods WERE caused by climate change, those floods show climate change is here, now, and damaging right now

MarkW
Reply to  griff
August 10, 2021 8:47 am

Actually they were, but only if you limit history to the last couple of decades. Go back several hundred years and you will find many instances of worse floods all throughout that region.

Reply to  griff
August 10, 2021 8:47 am

The weather patterns producing the floods were known as were the quanitities of rain to fear, days in advance.Several weather services wrote about and warned, but these warnings didn’t find a way to the responsibles.
The region wasn’t hit for the first time by such a rain and flood, 1910, 183x were comparable and worse.
In earlier years existed plans to build barrier lakes. But instead they build the Nürburg Ring, a racecourse in the Ahrweiler region, because of attractiveness for tourists and incoming money.
That’s what I call responsible flood prevention.
Forgett your CC, it’s BS^100

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Ted
Reply to  griff
August 10, 2021 2:39 pm

If extreme weather events were evenly distributed, One-in-1,000 year events that affect a million people would occur 38 times per year. Floods are a normal event in Germany, and yes, sometimes the floods are worse than others.

Rich Davis
Reply to  griff
August 10, 2021 7:50 pm

It’s a catastrophe, death and destruction on every corner. Flooding, droughts and frigid heat. The end is not nigh, it is upon us! We’re finished, my God, temperatures almost up to 25C in London this week. In mid-August no less! Who will survive?

What with all these calamities, griff, won’t you answer my question? In which time period would you prefer to live your life?
[__] Benign low CO2 1675-1750
[__] “Dangerous” CO2 1950-2025

Graemethecat
Reply to  griff
August 11, 2021 3:24 am

It has been pointed out to you several times that this year’s floods were NOT exceptional, and that floods in previous centuries were far worse, yet you keep repeating the lie. Why?

DaveS
Reply to  Graemethecat
August 11, 2021 5:21 am

Either:
(a) he’s a (pretty good) bot
(b) he’s a (pretty good) wind-up merchant
(c) he’s just dumb?

2hotel9
Reply to  griff
August 11, 2021 5:03 am

All that blahblah simply to spew the same lies you always spew, lie spewing liar. A search of the historical records shows you are, yet again, a lie spewing liar.

DaveS
Reply to  griff
August 11, 2021 5:18 am

And those floods WERE caused by climate change, those floods show climate change is here, now, and damaging right now”

One day griff, you might grow up.

huls
Reply to  griff
August 12, 2021 11:11 am

You are very very wrong. Here’s the truth from the mouth of the expert:

In Limburg, houses and streets are under water due to the combination of high water levels and a lot of precipitation in a short time. Could this not have been prevented? Water management expert Klaas-Jan van Heeringen of knowledge institute Deltares in Delft explains.

Judith HarmsenJuly 15, 2021, 12:50 source: https://www.trouw.nl/binnenland/overstromingen-in-limburg-zijn-een-bekend-risico-weten-experts-we-accepteren-dat-het-eens-in-de-vijftig-jaar-misgaat~b9ec696b/?referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fduckduckgo.com%2F

We are the land of the Delta Works, aren’t we good at water management? How could it have gone so wrong?
“We are certainly very good at this. From abroad, we also really look at how we deal with these kinds of situations. The main problem is that the weather is so extreme right now. How exceptional it is exactly is difficult to say at the moment. We’re still in the middle of it, of course. I think this is an event that only happens once every 50 or 100 years. But it may even turn out to be once every five hundred years.

“Part of the reason that we are good at water management in ‘eg the Netherlands’ is that we deal with it very rationally. We set design rules. We look for the optimal balance between the social costs and the social benefits. We say, for example: we accept that things go wrong with events that are so rare that on average they only occur once every fifty years, but everything that happens more than once every fifty years should go well. Of course, we could also build stormwater buffers that can handle events up to once every thousand years. But they are a lot bigger and so you get a lot more social discussion, for example about the costs and about the use of space.”

So is something like what is happening in Limburg now a calculated risk?
“Correct. It has been taken into account at the front. Which of course does not mean that it is very annoying when it happens. It’s dramatic, of course, when the ground floor is full of water, and the piano and carpeting go to the scrap heap. The personal suffering and financial damage are enormous, let that be clear. But it has been calculated, calculated very coolly behind the drawing board.
“The assessment that is made differs. Each time it is recalculated what is acceptable. The dikes in the Randstad, for example, must be able to withstand extreme events up to once every ten thousand years. That is because the impact if it did go wrong is very large. But sewer systems are classically designed for ‘once-in-decade events’. That’s fine too, because if the water does go over the edge, you get a little more puddles on the street – that’s not so bad. Then you talk about a completely different impact. The damage that can be prevented with a measure determines what kind of safety we go for.”

Ed Zuiderwijk
August 10, 2021 8:16 am

The 2019 south Yorkshire flooding near Doncaster was of course blamed on you know what. The river Don was a bit full and a place called ‘Fishlake’ was under water. Some bright spark noticed the clue in the name.

Al Miller
August 10, 2021 8:44 am

So, what I take out of all of this is that the work “unprecedented” now means a perfectly normal event. Read in that context all of the alarmism makes perfect sense!

n.n
August 10, 2021 9:17 am

Precedented handmade tales to avoid responsiblity for weather without mystery and predictable progressions.

Alex
August 10, 2021 9:33 am

Paul, your position is hopeless.
People never mention good news.
The bad news, on the contrary, they mention immediately, and they need someone to blame for those bad news.
Beware you are not that scapegoat!

Smart Rock
August 10, 2021 9:41 am

Let’s not forget the California flood of 1862, when the whole Central Valley was under water.

Peta of Newark
August 10, 2021 9:53 am

Epic. Nearly a Cc of my, earlier today, little rave about Australia.

Certainly to my mind is to get Some People, to actually Carry The Can, to Accept The Buck when it lands on their desk.
Politicians AND Scientists both.

Most especially here, about planting homes on flood plains but mainly, differentiating between Heavy Rain and Flooding

In a way similar to why Earth atmosphere is seemingly warming up.
Atmosphere may be getting exactly the same amount of energy as it always did but the temperature depends on how the atmosphere ‘handles’ energy.
For any given energy amount, If it is wet it will achieve a lower temp than if it was/is dry

So it is with rain and floods.
For any given amount of rain, it depends how the land/soil/dirt handles that water which determines: Flood vs No Flood

Two main reasons why any given patch of ground alters its handling of water:

  1. Cities
  2. Ploughs

And it is the people who put those things where they are that should be carrying the buck – not everybody else via crazed imaginings about properties of the Contemporary Phlogiston

JGrizz
August 10, 2021 10:29 am

This article is a shame to be published in a science blog. It is nothing more than an opinion piece with a few random facts thrown in. Lets look at what the Author is claiming:

  1. How dare they blame the floods on climate change caused by fossil fuels! The same fossil fuels that power their economy! All well and good as an opinion, but can the floods be tied into a climate change through science. This is the central question, let’s see how it it addressed.
  2. They failed to warn their citizens and want to blame climate change in order to avoid accountability. A reasonable opinion and probably true, but not a science issue per se.
  3. Floods are not uncommon, here are a few random examples from history. Please, I hope this blogs viewers are sophisticated enough to see that this is not in any way evidence or science.
  4. Here are other examples of other natural disasters that have nothing to do with the central question. Is the flooding witnessed in Europe outside of historical norms and if so, can that be tied into global warming.

Let’s not let this science blog get watered down with propaganda, even if we agree with it.

JGrizz

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pHil R
Reply to  JGrizz
August 10, 2021 11:28 am

Maybe I don’t understand what you wrote, but your comments 3 and 4 appear to be contradictory. In comment 3 you say that pointing out historical floods is “not…evidence or science”, then in comment 4 you (rightly) point out that the question is,”Is the flooding witnessed in Europe outside of historical norms…”

One can’t answer that question without looking at historical floods. If I misunderstood your comment, I’d be happy to be corrected.

JGrizz
Reply to  pHil R
August 10, 2021 12:10 pm

Listing random historical floods for the wow factor is not evidence. Showing historical rainfall amounts for each region would be more what I would hope to see.

pHil R
Reply to  JGrizz
August 10, 2021 5:46 pm

I don’t agree with you, but thank you for the response.

Alba
August 10, 2021 11:04 am

The poor residents of towns along the River Elbe were just about recovering from the flooding in 2002 when they had more flooding to contend with in 2006.
Swelling Rivers Force Hundreds to Flee in Central Europehttps://www.dw.com/en/swelling-rivers-force-hundreds-to-flee-in-central-europe/a-1951914
Interestingly, that article makes no mention of climate change/disruption/emergency/catastrophe.

EnJim
August 10, 2021 11:18 am

The 1889 Johnstown flood occurred in Pennsylvania, not Ohio.

Ed Zuiderwijk
August 10, 2021 11:30 am

Man-made flooding. Through bad planning. A case in point is the city of Cologne on the river Rhine, prone to flooding when the Rhine has to shift large quantities of water from the catchment areas upstream. Reason: the creeping narrowing of the riverbed by development on the river banks. Result: flooding of cathedral square and low laying parts of the city.

A similar mistake had been made in the city of Nijmegen on the river Meuse/Waal which suffered serious flooding in the 1990s. Then it was decided to reverse the encroachment on the river bed and actually widen it by digging an extra channel to be used as a bypass when needed. They still have the quayside under water occasionally but by far not as bad as before.

ren
August 10, 2021 12:23 pm

It’s not over. In the coming days, the jet stream will again bring heavy rainfall from the south to Central Europe.

ren
Reply to  ren
August 10, 2021 12:27 pm

A renewed decline in solar wind activity will cause the jet stream to drop southward in the Atlantic. This will push moist masses from the south into central Europe. At the same time, this means a continuation of highs over Greece and Turkey.

ren
Reply to  ren
August 10, 2021 12:37 pm

Watching the solar wind surges and the behavior of the jet stream, one can expect unexpected winter attacks starting in October.

Reply to  ren
August 10, 2021 1:14 pm

First will come better weather with less rain and increasing temps.
Than around Tuesday another change back to lower temps

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ren
Reply to  Krishna Gans
August 10, 2021 1:30 pm

Thunderstorms in southern Germany will begin as early as tomorrow.comment image

ren
Reply to  Krishna Gans
August 10, 2021 1:34 pm
August 10, 2021 2:11 pm

A small list of other factors in the UK that might increase reports of flooding.
A) New housing built on the cheap meadow land.
B) Increase of beef farming, the soil is rolled so the cattle won’t break their ankles. It speeds up water run off.
C) Farmers removing traditional ditches from fields and gaining extra field area (eu subsidies?)
D) Cheap road resurfacing techniques that block drains (put on tar and then spray on the chippings – let the traffic compress the chips, no roller needed). Normally done in summer and then the drains block as soon as the autumn comes.
E) Reactive instead of proactive drain cleaning by the council. Cheaper to clean them only after people complain!
F) Forestry cleared for wind turbines – Although I think this has slowed since the feed in tariffs aren’t as good as they used to be.

Davis
August 10, 2021 4:38 pm

Having all large metropolitan areas generally covered in concrete and pavement doesn’t help either. When the rains come, there is nothing natural to hold the water back, and gets channeled into small fast flowing, deep gorges that cannot handle the flow all at once. Then add in debris plugged drains, these drain not designed to handle the flows, plugged or not.

To bed B
August 10, 2021 5:06 pm

The only good correlation is between amount of preaching of global warming garbage and the quotient of wealth over ability.

Gregg Eshelman
August 10, 2021 6:11 pm

The Johnstown flood was due to the failure of a dam https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/the-johnstown-flood

Ulric Lyons
August 10, 2021 6:28 pm

The Met Office promises us drier summers for Northwest Europe with rising CO2 forcing, due to an increase in positive North Atlantic Oscillation conditions.
https://archive.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/ar4/wg1/en/ch10s10-3-5-6.html

Yet the summers have on average become wetter since 1995. The Met Office web pages briefly mention that the warm AMO phase ‘may’ be responsible, but there’s no mention there of the increase in negative NAO conditions from 1995. Or why the AMO shifted warm from 1995, though obviously it’s due to the negative NAO. Of course the Met Office will say that global heating provides more water vapour, when it’s really low indirect solar forcing driving the warm AMO phase providing any extra water vapour.

Blaming these summer floods on rising CO2 forcing is certainly anti-science, and is essentially fraudulent.

Surely Hubert Lamb noted stormier and wetter summers for Northwest Europe during low solar periods?

ren
August 10, 2021 11:50 pm

Why do we have repeating circulation patterns in Europe this summer? If we look at the strength of the solar wind, there is a clear ripple. The increase in neutrons indicates a renewed decrease in the strength of the solar wind’s magnetic field. It is these ripples that are visible in the course of the jet current in the tropopause. When solar activity decreases the jet current in the Atlantic descends southward.comment image

2hotel9
August 11, 2021 5:10 am

Allowing morons to build cities in flood plains leads to worse floods, climate is simply doing what climate has always done. Now, que up more lies from griffy, it is all leftards got.

Jak
August 11, 2021 6:57 am

Geoengineeringwatch.org

Editor
August 11, 2021 1:53 pm

Germany’s worst flood ever recorded was surely the flood of 1342. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Mary_Magdalene%27s_flood

“Following the passage of a Genoa low the rivers Rhine, Moselle, Main, Danube, Weser, Werra, Unstrut, Elbe, Vltava and their tributaries inundated large areas. Many towns such as Cologne, Mainz, Frankfurt am Main, Würzburg, Regensburg, Passau and Vienna were seriously damaged. Even the river Eider north of Hamburg flooded the surrounding land. The affected area extended to Carinthia and northern Italy.
[..] A precise number of casualties remains unknown, but it is believed that in the Danube area alone, 6,000 people perished.”.

Peter
August 11, 2021 7:54 pm

FLOODS are not uncommon, they are not unprecedented

Indeed. Floods have always been part of any place that has rain. Nowadays, we consider floods as unwanted events, but we forget that floods were once a necessity for survival. It fertilized the land and made crops grow.

Once we had developed good fertilizers and we started to build our homes in the flood planes, we started to hate the flood.

Alba
August 19, 2021 9:02 am

This information about the 2002 floods appeared in The August-September 2021 edition of ‘Steam Railway’ magazine.
“Just in Germany’s state of Saxony…21 people died. Houses were destroyed, water swept through the doors of the recently-restored main station in the state capital, Dresden, where the Elbe river reached neatly 31ft above its normal level. Just in this one particularly hard-hit state, state railway Deutsche Bahn suffered €750m (or around £650m) of damage. Nor was the deluge confined to Saxony, or even to Germany. Prague was swamped, Budapest affected too. Overall, more than 100 people died.”

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