Boston Ties “Green” Jobs to the Pandemic and Future “Climate Shocks”

Guest “Let them pass wind” by Gordon Evans

“The City of Boston Environment Department invites you to respond to this Request for Information with your ideas about green jobs training and hiring in Boston.

More information available at: https://www.boston.gov/news/city-boston-launches-rfi-feedback-future-green-jobs

The City of Boston is launching a new green jobs initiative to support an equitable recovery as we continue to respond to the COVID-19 pandemic. The pandemic has exacerbated existing inequities in our community. As we recover, we are committed to focusing on the needs of the most vulnerable residents, and the most economically at-risk industries. An equitable recovery also means taking steps now to lessen the likelihood and impact of climate shocks and public health crises in the future, through wealth building and economic mobility for residents.

Mayor Janey’s Fiscal Year 2022 operating budget includes $1 million for green jobs, in addition to $3 million in federal recovery funds. We are committed to training and developing career pathways for residents in the green jobs of the future, in support of an equitable recovery from the COVID-19 pandemic.

As we accelerate green jobs initiatives over the coming years, we invite you to respond to this Request for Information with your ideas about green jobs training and hiring in Boston. A Request for Information allows the City to explore new ideas without committing resources to a particular concept. Responses will inform conversations and programming about how the City can help accelerate the green economy in service of the Mayor’s climate justice goals. The Request for Information may be found at
bit.ly/boston-green-jobs-rfi.

The deadline to submit a response is August 18, 2021. Please contact Katherine Eshel, Deputy Director of Climate and Environmental Planning, with any questions or concerns at katherine.eshel@boston.gov.”

Boston’s city administrators have managed to stuff a mere three paragraphs with a host of woke words, phrases and social justice warrior causes. In the process, they show that they are helplessly hoping (hats off to Crosby,Stills,Nash&Young, https://youtu.be/gosRHLxbXZw) to figure out just what a “green job” is really.

Their request for information, in a nutshell, says, “Somebody, pleeeeze tell us, what’s a green job?” This from their “Deputy Director of Climate and Environmental Planning” Kat Eshel, a young French bicycling enthusiast who studied all of the “right” subjects at some of the wokest schools (https://www.boston.gov/departments/environment/kat-eshel ).

I’ve been an environmental professional for over 40 years and have yet to figure out what is a “green” job, unless it is one guaranteed to lose money and fail or be kept afloat by other people’s money. Jobs are jobs. They have no color. Either they contribute productively or they are a burden. If you have any ideas, you can help out those poor, woke Bostonians at the RFI link shown above.

Boston Ties “Green” Jobs to the Pandemic and Future “Climate Shocks”

Guest “Let them pass wind” by Gordon Evans

“The City of Boston Environment Department invites you to respond to this Request for Information with your ideas about green jobs training and hiring in Boston.

More information available at: https://www.boston.gov/news/city-boston-launches-rfi-feedback-future-green-jobs

The City of Boston is launching a new green jobs initiative to support an equitable recovery as we continue to respond to the COVID-19 pandemic. The pandemic has exacerbated existing inequities in our community. As we recover, we are committed to focusing on the needs of the most vulnerable residents, and the most economically at-risk industries. An equitable recovery also means taking steps now to lessen the likelihood and impact of climate shocks and public health crises in the future, through wealth building and economic mobility for residents.

Mayor Janey’s Fiscal Year 2022 operating budget includes $1 million for green jobs, in addition to $3 million in federal recovery funds. We are committed to training and developing career pathways for residents in the green jobs of the future, in support of an equitable recovery from the COVID-19 pandemic.

As we accelerate green jobs initiatives over the coming years, we invite you to respond to this Request for Information with your ideas about green jobs training and hiring in Boston. A Request for Information allows the City to explore new ideas without committing resources to a particular concept. Responses will inform conversations and programming about how the City can help accelerate the green economy in service of the Mayor’s climate justice goals. The Request for Information may be found at
bit.ly/boston-green-jobs-rfi.

The deadline to submit a response is August 18, 2021. Please contact Katherine Eshel, Deputy Director of Climate and Environmental Planning, with any questions or concerns at katherine.eshel@boston.gov.”

Boston’s city administrators have managed to stuff a mere three paragraphs with a host of woke words, phrases and social justice warrior causes. In the process, they show that they are helplessly hoping (hats off to Crosby,Stills,Nash&Young, https://youtu.be/gosRHLxbXZw) to figure out just what a “green job” is really.

Their request for information, in a nutshell, says, “Somebody, pleeeeze tell us, what’s a green job?” This from their “Deputy Director of Climate and Environmental Planning” Kat Eshel, a young French bicycling enthusiast who studied all of the “right” subjects at some of the wokest schools (https://www.boston.gov/departments/environment/kat-eshel ).

I’ve been an environmental professional for over 40 years and have yet to figure out what is a “green” job, unless it is one guaranteed to lose money and fail or be kept afloat by other people’s money. Jobs are jobs. They have no color. Either they contribute productively or they are a burden. If you have any ideas, you can help out those poor, woke Bostonians at the RFI link shown above.

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Tom Foley
August 3, 2021 10:25 pm

It does sound like a fishing expedition – not defining ‘green jobs’ but looking for ideas from business and individuals.

But don’t be so down on green jobs. After all, isn’t ‘environmental professional’ a green job? Have you been paid, or have you lost money and failed?

Disclosure: I’ve also been an environmental professional, for more than 40 years.

Last edited 5 months ago by Tom Foley
Pflashgordon
Reply to  Tom Foley
August 4, 2021 4:28 am

Never considered my job “green.” I try to avoid “green” as it is one of the SJW terms. From space, earth appears largely blue with a shroud of white clouds and ice caps. If your pond turns green, you’ve got a problem. If you live in a healthy desert ecosystem, what is the dominant color? You shouldn’t separate jobs into some “green” category for the purpose of seeking government subsidies. On the other hand, in a sense, most every job is “green” if one is seeking continual improvement, gaining effectiveness and avoiding unnecessary waste. It’s called stewardship, being a good steward of the resources to which one has been entrusted. Environmental work is an essential part of many endeavors, but picking up horse manure at the Tournament of Roses parade doesn’t drive the parade from behind.

So if you drive a bus, then get reassigned to drive an electric bus, is that now suddenly a “green” job? If you are a turbine mechanic, then get a job doing that 400 feet off the ground, are you now a “green” worker? If an architect designs a more efficient building, is that now a “green” job?

Bryan A
Reply to  Pflashgordon
August 4, 2021 5:25 am

I thought GREEN JOBS were jobs that accomplished nothing but SUBSIDY MINED huge rewards for BIG GREEN

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bill Johnston
Reply to  Pflashgordon
August 4, 2021 5:56 am

“Green” means whatever they say it means. Nothing more and nothing less.
(I read that somewhere).

Reply to  bill Johnston
August 4, 2021 8:40 am

Humpty Dumpty

Tom Foley
Reply to  Pflashgordon
August 4, 2021 6:39 am

Green jobs are in the eye of the beholder. We don’t know if they thought bus drivers or tunnellers or architects work was being described as green jobs because they cleverly didn’t say so. They are fishing, and will quite likely re-label existing jobs ‘green’ for PR purposes.

On the other hand, being an environmental professional is just as much a green job as anything else, if not more so.

Duane
Reply to  Pflashgordon
August 4, 2021 7:30 am

A green job is any job for which compensation is paid with dollars, which are green.

observa
Reply to  Tom Foley
August 4, 2021 5:27 am

You can define your job as any sort of wishy washy esoteric woke crap but they’re zeroing in on capital with a rigid definition-
Changes to the way ‘carbon emitting’ businesses account for assets (msn.com)

Mark Whitney
Reply to  Tom Foley
August 4, 2021 6:08 am

I think the difference lies in that distinguishing a conservationist from an environmentalist. The former is a nuts and bolts observer of real impacts, costs and benefits with a pragmatic approach to understanding and, if possible and desirable, improving a given environmental situation. That person leads by example and uses reason as a tool.
The latter is an empty opportunist and/or promoter of fashionable seflfie moments. This individual relies on emotion and coercion, often by force to demand conformity, seldom adhering to their own imposed limits.

Mark in SLC (one of the former)

Mr.
Reply to  Tom Foley
August 4, 2021 8:57 am

The Sustainability Manager at my Shire Council once explained to me that his job amounted to applying for federal government grant $$$s to undertake “carbon reduction investigation projects” across the Shire’s activities.

The Shire had previously outsourced Rubbish and Roads, so all they had left to do out of the 3 Rs was Rates.

Was this a “green job” in action?

Gunga Din
Reply to  Tom Foley
August 4, 2021 10:15 am

But don’t be so down on green jobs. After all, isn’t ‘environmental professional’ a green job?

Who defines “green”? I’ve been an ‘environmental professional’ for over 30 years in the fields of drinking water and wastewater treatment.
Neither would qualify as green by today’s “green” standards. Both are useful and beneficial.
They aren’t just pipe dreams that send money down the drain.

Steve Z
Reply to  Tom Foley
August 4, 2021 12:30 pm

Some “environmental professionals” are involved in obtaining permits for the construction of power plants and other industrial production plants, to ensure that they follow environmental regulations. Most of the permitted facilities do end up emitting CO2, but the environmental professionals ensure that they don’t exceed government limits on real pollutants.

Would this be considered a “green” job?

August 3, 2021 10:44 pm

Is being a troll on climate realist websites a green job?

RickWill
Reply to  Ralph Dave Westfall
August 3, 2021 11:35 pm

Put in your proposal for the easy money; take a leaf from the griffter.

Bryan A
Reply to  RickWill
August 4, 2021 5:35 am

Green Jobs are…
…Fracking for Natural Gas to produce Petrochemical stock for the manufacturing of light weight EVs and Big Wind blades
…Mining Coal to produce strong structural steel to support wind turbines
…Mining Coal to produce clean Silicon for Solar PV panels
…Mining Cobalt and Lithium to produce Massive Batteries for Grid and EV usage
…Drilling for Oil to power the HUGE trucks needed to remove the overburden atop COAL deposits and later economically transport Coal from the seam to processing
…Fracking Gas for night time heating use in Solar Thermal to keep the salt molten at night
Those are Green Jobs

DMacKenzie
Reply to  Bryan A
August 4, 2021 5:56 am

Bryan, you are closer than you think, when the accountants are done redefining what is eligible for carbon credits, probably all those will be eligible for government subsidy. Its all about collecting $carbon by doing what the government wants you to do, not really about the environment….

Bryan A
Reply to  DMacKenzie
August 4, 2021 6:32 am

Absolutely…
And a Green Job will be Petrochemical production for manufacturing Synthetic Rubber tires for EVs while Brown Jobs will be Petrochemical production for manufacturing Synthetic Rubber tires for ICE cars

Michael S. Kelly
Reply to  Bryan A
August 4, 2021 11:22 am

Synthetic rubber? A Green Job will be traveling to India in a sailing ship, tapping latex rubber trees, and bringing it back to mold into tires for EVs (which will be charged by solar panels for their 5 miles per year usage).

Bryan A
Reply to  Michael S. Kelly
August 4, 2021 7:53 pm

Hmmm 5 miles per year, sounds like those Rubber Tree tires will have a 4 year warranty

LdB
Reply to  Ralph Dave Westfall
August 4, 2021 6:55 am

Not sure ask Griff and what the pay is like.

Mr.
Reply to  LdB
August 4, 2021 8:39 am

Griff wouldn’t know what the pay is. He doesn’t get to see such things. His custodian handles all matters, especially those involving numbers.

RickWill
August 3, 2021 11:31 pm

Hard to read the blurb on the green job initiative and take it seriously. Surely the writer is someone with a penchant for dark humour taking the Mickey.

Chris Nisbet
August 3, 2021 11:38 pm

What is a “climate shock”?
Is that what we used to call bad weather?

Klem
Reply to  Chris Nisbet
August 4, 2021 1:31 am

It could be defined as a cloudy day. Water vapour is the primary GHG after all.

Bryan A
Reply to  Klem
August 4, 2021 6:33 am

And clouds hamper Solar PV generation

paul courtney
Reply to  Bryan A
August 4, 2021 7:44 am

Mr. A: I knew it!! Those denialist clouds frustrating green dreams. It’s time we act against the greenhouse gas and sequester water vapor!! Then solar panels will generate all day long (well, not the night).

Bryan A
Reply to  paul courtney
August 4, 2021 9:55 am

Who needs lights at night anyway

niceguy
Reply to  Chris Nisbet
August 4, 2021 2:13 am

Old people in France used to say “les satellites dérèglent le climat”: satellites have wrecked the weather.

Joe Crawford
Reply to  niceguy
August 4, 2021 6:34 am

It ain’t the satellites that’s the problem. It’s all them rockets punching holes in the sky that does it. :<)

Mr.
Reply to  Chris Nisbet
August 4, 2021 8:43 am

No Chris, a “climate shock” is what you get when a gender studies PhD has done your electrical work as a “green job”.

Gunga Din
Reply to  Chris Nisbet
August 4, 2021 10:23 am

Climate shock?
Natural. A bolt of lightening.
Unnatural. A firefighter trying to put out a fire chopping through the roof of a house covered in solar panels.

TonyG
Reply to  Gunga Din
August 4, 2021 3:33 pm

chopping through the roof of a house covered in solar panels.

Yeah, won’t be doing that.

tygrus
August 3, 2021 11:50 pm

They say green power is cheaper but then say there will be more jobs. But that statement disagrees with mathematics & economics.
Any good or service is the sum of the payments made to workers & owners along the chain.
So more jobs with the same pay each, for same output would normally mean the good/service will cost more.
For more jobs with same money would imply each job being paid less; OR you increased demand & supply. Or are they talking about more jobs for a few years of construction then less jobs later on?

Rusty
Reply to  tygrus
August 4, 2021 1:59 am

“Green jobs” is akin to banning combine harvesters because they run on diesel and then employing lots of people with scythes.

Scissor
Reply to  Rusty
August 4, 2021 4:53 am

Too complicated. Hunter says just take the green and spend it on blow.

Bryan A
Reply to  Scissor
August 4, 2021 9:57 am

“Mary had a little Lamb
whose stash was whitest snow
And everywhere that Mary went
they both enjoyed the blow”
The late and sage GC

Alexy Scherbakoff
August 3, 2021 11:58 pm

I’ll create a think tank, pay myself a million dollars and then say”sorry, couldn’t come up with anything”. Thanks for the fish, bye.

walt
August 4, 2021 12:38 am

Please note the size of the mayor’s commitment.
“…. Mayor Janey’s Fiscal Year 2022 operating budget includes $1 million for green jobs, in addition to $3 million in federal recovery funds. …”
How will green jobs be funded after 2022?

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  walt
August 4, 2021 3:50 am

Snort! They won’t be funded. When the money runs out the jobs turn brown….

Bryan A
Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
August 4, 2021 9:59 am

I think a Million Dollars might only buy you 0.75 green jobs…aren’t they averaging $1.5M per

Ted
Reply to  walt
August 4, 2021 10:39 am

From taxes on “bad” businesses

Right-Handed Shark
August 4, 2021 1:02 am

Solar panel cleaners. Wind turbine blade cleaners. That’s about all I can come up with for “green” jobs.

Oh wait! Does Boston have any hydro? Maybe a bucket chain gang to get the water back behind the dam..

Rick C
Reply to  Right-Handed Shark
August 4, 2021 8:54 am

You could add bird and bat carcass collectors.

IAMPCBOB
Reply to  Rick C
August 4, 2021 11:49 am

A bit OT maybe, but about those poor birds! Have you ever spent any time watching those huge windmills go around and around? They turn MIGHTY slowly, don’t they? I mean, birds don’t normally run into trees or buildings, and they blades only turn slightly faster. Aren’t the birds (and bats, too, who use Radar-like ultrasonics for navigation purposes), able to avoid a slow moving blade? I would certainly think so! Just something else for the bleeding hearts to get their knickers up in a wad over. Birds maybe the original bird brains, but I suspect they are smarter than that! Prove me wrong.

Steve Z
Reply to  IAMPCBOB
August 4, 2021 12:22 pm

Wind turbines don’t turn very slowly, and their rotational speed varies with wind speed. In a 15-mph breeze, a wind turbine might turn at 15 or 20 RPM, which doesn’t sound like much, but if the turbine radius is 20 meters, at 15 RPM the tip of the turbine is moving at 31.4 m/s, or about 103 ft/s, or about 70 miles per hour. For a bird to avoid a turbine blade would be like a person trying to cross an interstate highway without being hit by a car.

Wind turbines are particularly hazardous to predatory birds like eagles and hawks, for whom the generator boxes are attractive nesting sites–they get a bird’s eye view of prey without the trouble of building a nest in a tall tree or on a ledge in the side of a cliff. Large birds will tend to take off into the wind to increase lift on their wings, but wind turbines have tail vanes to keep the turbine facing into the wind, so that the birds take off through the path of the turbine. For a three-blade turbine turning at, for example, 20 RPM, the bird has one second to take off between the passage of the blades. One ill-timed takeoff will kill the bird.

MarkW
Reply to  Steve Z
August 4, 2021 12:58 pm

Predatory birds also have eyes that focus ahead, not to the sides.
Makes it hard to see those blades coming at you from the sides.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  IAMPCBOB
August 4, 2021 1:35 pm

They turn MIGHTY slowly, don’t they?

When they are working, they turn quite fast. As others have noted, the tip can move very fast indeed.

When they are turning really slowly, they are not being driven by the wind. They are USING electricity to turn the turbines to prevent the bearings becoming malformed. Just another ‘green’ efficiency!

Ed Zuiderwijk
August 4, 2021 1:12 am

Methinks the City of Boston is inviting proposals for a Boston Green Tea Party revolt.

4 Eyes
August 4, 2021 1:37 am

Love the picture! One green job could be justifying to Bostonians why all those windmills have been put where they are, ‘cos that’s where they should be and not in someone else’s back yard.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  4 Eyes
August 4, 2021 6:34 am

”Greenwashing”

fretslider
August 4, 2021 1:42 am

“your ideas about green jobs “

Because they don’t have any?

Fitting insulation and cladding, er, that’s it

Peta of Newark
August 4, 2021 3:13 am

Para starting:The City of Boston is launching a new green jobs initiative to support an equitable recovery as we continue to respond to …...blah blah blah”

That is what would reduce my young autistic friend to silence if not tears.
They are expressing ‘sympathy’ = what she was endlessly showered with, basically a reminder of all the things that were/are wrong with her.
She didn’t want or need that, she needed people who understood her.
People with empathy, not sympathy.

Many many folks confuse Sympathy with Empathy yet they are diametrically opposite.
Sympathy is fake empathy

And why my friend was so affected, because she realised she was being ‘talked down to’ that she recognised condescension, that she was being patronised, felt sorry for and frankly, insulted.

And that shyte is coming from Civic Leaders who are very effectively conveying the fact that they are in Completely The Wrong Job.

There is your response to the ‘rfi’
Tidy your desk, switch off computers & lights and close the door from the outside.
Then go home and don’t come back

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Andrew Wilkins
August 4, 2021 4:17 am

“includes $1 million for green jobs, ”
Jobs that are genuinely needed and generate a profitable product create themselves. Jobs that need funding aren’t (eco-bullshit word warning) sustainable.

Bruce Cobb
August 4, 2021 4:31 am

You just need to know Greenspin™, and be adept at wielding it. Included within the Greenspin lingo are all the de rigeur wokeist phrases. Properly phrased and couched, picking up dog poop could be a “green job”.

H.R.
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
August 4, 2021 6:03 am

It’s probably a brown job, Bruce. Still, green or brown, it’s a gray area that makes me see red and gives me the blues.

Tom in Florida
August 4, 2021 4:59 am

jobs initiative to support an equitable recovery “

This is government speak for “tax dollars will be only given to those who agree with us” .

Gunga Din
August 4, 2021 5:09 am

There was a post awhile back showing wind turbines being demoed once the subsidies ran out.
Boston could train people in how to take down wind turbines. They could then form a “green” company that specializes in taking them down. (Like those companies that put out oil well fires)
They could call themselves “Wind Turbine Terminators, Inc.”!

Joe Wagner
August 4, 2021 5:14 am

Hook up a bunch of kid’s bikes to a generator. Take all the kids the schools aren’t teaching, and have them start pedaling..

Today only- Green Job Special. I’ll only take $750,000.. You’re welcome.

MarkW
August 4, 2021 5:14 am

Forget “green jobs”. I’m trying to figure out what an “equitable recovery” is.

Gunga Din
Reply to  MarkW
August 4, 2021 9:49 am

“adjective
characterized by equity or fairness; just and right; fair; reasonable:”

However, when when the Left uses the word it generally means something along the lines of “Take from the rich, buy votes of the poor”.
Sort of like the Social “Justice” Warriors think it’s unjust to prosecute rioters and arsonist. They are only engaging in “peaceful” protest.

MarkW
Reply to  Gunga Din
August 4, 2021 12:59 pm

Given that they are now demanding that prisons be closed as well, it looks like they now feel that it is unjust to prosecute anyone.

MarkW
August 4, 2021 5:17 am

Is it just me, or is the article repeated?

Kevin kilty
Reply to  MarkW
August 4, 2021 7:41 am

Its an echo chamber in the city offices….

Gunga Din
Reply to  MarkW
August 4, 2021 9:51 am

I noticed that also.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  MarkW
August 4, 2021 1:39 pm

You can say that again

Bernie1815
August 4, 2021 5:19 am

In an another announcement, Boston Mayor asked for taxpayer funding for a “Perpetual Motion Machine” and “Money Growing Trees”. If the latter project is successful, there will be no need for taxpayers – sorry, I meant taxes.

hiskorr
August 4, 2021 5:24 am

Pretty simple! A “green job” is one that requires a continuous infusion of “greenbacks” from taxpayers or donors to keep from going into the “red”.

Rhs
August 4, 2021 6:02 am

4 million at 50k/job helps at best 80 people. And if the funding runs out after 1 year, they aren’t being helped for very long, nor will 50k go very far in Boston.

Last edited 5 months ago by Rhs
PaulH
August 4, 2021 6:17 am

More “build back better” hooey.

Mark Whitney
August 4, 2021 6:19 am

The only useful green job that officials in Boston are likely to create is painting The Wall at Fenway!

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Carlo, Monte
August 4, 2021 6:32 am

One million dollars will pay wages and overhead for less than one dozen people, for a year.

This is how democrats “build back better.” But hey, they are doing something “green” and can now pack themselves on the back — “Boy am I GOOD!”

Gunga Din
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
August 4, 2021 10:00 am

We’d all be better off if they just “pat” their bags and never come back. 😎

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Gunga Din
August 4, 2021 11:31 am

Indeed.

ResourceGuy
August 4, 2021 7:26 am

I’m still upset that MA did not lose a Congressional seat in the latest Census count. So any program that raises costs, lowers competitiveness with unsustainable jobs and distracted economic development, and drives outmigration is a good thing. The source of most bad public policy for the nation needs to eat it for a change.

dmanfred
August 4, 2021 8:00 am

Central planning by elite bureaucrats is the solution to all of mankind’s woes.

commieBob
August 4, 2021 9:27 am

Jobs are jobs. They have no color. Either they contribute productively or they are a burden.

Apparently there are a disturbing number of jobs that are a burden on society. BS Jobs

John Hultquist
August 4, 2021 9:38 am

“Kat” Eshel is just another parasite that crawled out of the sustainability dung heap.

Green jobs are useless costs, not benefits.

ROBERT WOOD
August 4, 2021 9:48 am

Green jobs in Boston? How about Mayoral Fart-Catchers.

AGW is Not Science
August 4, 2021 12:20 pm

I’ve been an environmental professional for over 40 years and have yet to figure out what is a “green” job, unless it is one guaranteed to lose money and fail or be kept afloat by other people’s money.

THAT’S IT!!!

Wasn’t it Portugal that learned the hard way that three real, productive jobs are lost for every useless “green job” added?

Solar Mutant Ninjaneer
August 4, 2021 12:27 pm

All the activists know is propaganda, especially how to manipulate the conversation with language. The ubiquitous term “green” is, in fact, oxymoronic. A more accurate color to associate with the movement is “white.” Logically, if you really want to make the planet greener, that is encourage the growth of chlorophyll producing plants (assuming for the moment you could actually impact the climate), you would do three things. (1) You would make the planet warmer. Plants prefer warmer climates. That is why there is more plant growth and diversity nearer the equator than towards the poles. (2) You would make the planet wetter. Because warm air holds more moisture than cold air, making the planet warmer automatically makes it wetter, on-average – or so they say.  And (3) you would increase the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere as is sometimes done in greenhouses to promote growth. The color that logically should be associated with reducing carbon dioxide emissions is white, the color of snow, ice caps, and polar bears. Terms like “going green”, “green party”, and “green new deal” should by all rights be “going white,” “white party,” and “white new deal” instead.

Unfortunately, the oxymoronic label is the least stupid element of the movement. The physics behind the so-called greenhouse effect do not support significant warming from additional carbon dioxide (I am a PHD ME with an emphasis on the thermal sciences with decades experience performing similar radiative heat transfer energy balance calculations and measurements at a major national laboratory. I am supremely confident that there is no climate emergency from CO2 emissions.) The historical climate data also does not support the alarmist warnings. Although the made-up data from NOAA, NASA, IPCC, and other suggest warming, actual data shows poor correlation with carbon dioxide concentrations. 

Carbon dioxide emissions are not a problem. They’re a feature.  

RichDo
Reply to  Solar Mutant Ninjaneer
August 5, 2021 5:08 am

Not to mention that White is the opposite of Black which represents the evil that is carbon.

There are sometimes gems in the WUWT comments, yours is one of them. Thanks.

Ozonebust
August 4, 2021 12:47 pm

Mowing lawns is a green job, unless there is a drought, then it’s a brown job.

Joel O'Bryan(@joelobryan)
Reply to  Ozonebust
August 4, 2021 4:07 pm

Picking up dog poop in grass before I mow is Brown job followed by a Green job. Running the lawn mower over piles of dog poop is not recommended.

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