Frigid polar air brings very rare snowfall, icy rains to southern Brazil

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Posted by Teo Blašković on July 30, 2021 at 17:29 UTC 

Frigid polar air brings very rare snowfall, icy rains to southern Brazil

A fierce cold snap brought rare snow, icy rain, and strong winds to parts of southern Brazil on July 29 and 30, 2021. The event comes after several waves of destructive frost since mid-June.

According to weather specialists at Somar Meteorologia, at least 40 cities in the southern state of Rio Grande do Sul saw ice while 30 got snow, including Pelotas, São Francisco de Paula, Gramado, Carlos Barbosa, Bagé, Herval, Piratini, Caxias do Sul, Marau, and Farroupilha.

Meteorologists say the strange phenomenon in Brazil is happening all the more often, especially in areas that are between 900 and 1 900 meters (2 900 and 6 200 feet) above sea level.

‘I am 62 years old and had never seen the snow, you know? To see nature’s beauty is something indescribable,’ said truck driver Iodor Goncalves Marques in Cambara do Sul, a municipality of Rio Grande do Sul state, speaking to TV Globo network 2/5 pic.twitter.com/1aTE0TXFX1— Reuters Science News (@ReutersScience) July 30, 2021

After hitting Rio Grande do Sul, polar air continued moving upwards toward the Sao Paolo metropolis and Minas Gerais — states known for their vast agricultural fields.

After several waves of destructive frost since mid-June, farmers fear that what’s left of essential export crops will suffer yet more damage.

According to Marco Antonio dos Santos from weather consultancy firm Rural Clima, international prices for coffee and sugar have already soared due to unusually cold weather in Brazil.

The last time a blizzard hit Brazil was back in 1957 when 1.3 m (4.3 feet) of snow fell in the state of Santa Catarina.

Read the full article here.

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Steve Case
July 31, 2021 2:09 am

“The last time a blizzard hit Brazil was back in 1957”

So it’s happened before, all you really need to know.

Loydo
Reply to  Steve Case
July 31, 2021 2:30 am

No no, the WUWT coolists were right.

Loydo
Reply to  B Clarke
July 31, 2021 3:44 pm

And out come the coolists cranks bleating about the weather. How long before Cool-hand Macrae with his hilarious claim he predicted 0.6C of cooling back in 2000 because of ‘anything but CO2’, but failed to predict the 0.7C fall in 2007 or the 0.8C fall in 2011.
I guess he was shouting into the mirror too loud to notice the even larger temp rises. Lol.
I blame Maurice Strong for all these Arctic blizzards sweeping across the Amazon, rooning all their crops.

Go on, give the poor bloke a like.

chickenhawk
Reply to  Loydo
July 31, 2021 4:54 pm

You might actually get some respect if you would admit you are wrong every once in a while…

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Loydo
July 31, 2021 8:33 pm

Lloydo, you do know that NASA is even throwing in the towel! GISS’s Gavin Schmidt acknowledged that models are running a way too hot (~300%) just yesterday! They, and everyone else have known this for well over a decade but the accelerating cooling around the globe is far outstripping GISS’s best efforts to adjust their way out of it. They know that a bit more cooling will join up with the former “Dreaded Pause” and suddenly we have no warming for 30yrs following a mere 18yrs warming up to the end of 1990s that all the hype, fuss and civilization- crippling trillions of dollars was wastefully spent. Don’t be among the last ones holding Michael Mann’s hand (the guy who is too deeply embedded to save himself). If NASA is bailing out, be smart. I can see palpable angst and more than a niggling doubt in your rambling protest. Your mention of Maurice Strong in the odd context of cooling in Brazil shows you know who invented global warming starting with Strong’s Rio Summit!

Loydo
Reply to  Gary Pearse
August 1, 2021 12:27 am

Gavin Schmidt acknowledged that models are running a way too hot (~300%)

Source?

B Clarke
Reply to  Loydo
August 1, 2021 3:17 am

Try reading his tweet 28th July come back and discuss.

Loydo
Reply to  B Clarke
August 1, 2021 8:48 pm

Nothing there, so did you just make 300% up?

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B Clarke
Reply to  Loydo
August 1, 2021 9:26 pm

First off loydo I never mentioned 300% , so you can’t find a tweet by schmidt that he quotes this,

” UN climate panel confronts implausibly hot forecasts of future warming
For the first time, major IPCC report likely to use recent warming to predict future heat increase
sciencemag.org”

Do you get the word implausibly loydo.

B Clarke
Reply to  Loydo
August 1, 2021 3:15 am

Are you saying who you call cranks loydo are liars, are they making up the weather , you do realise you just confirmed the cyclic nature of temperature, even though co2 is constant in one direction , Mr macrae is exactly right is he not.

fretslider
Reply to  Loydo
July 31, 2021 4:21 am

There’s nothing wrong with being cool.

You should try it instead of being uptight.

Climate believer
Reply to  Loydo
July 31, 2021 5:06 am

Just a bit of perspective that’s all, or is that also verboten in our brave new eco-fascist world.

icisil
Reply to  Loydo
July 31, 2021 5:15 am

Examples of anomalous cooling are provided as a foil to counter claims by the climate uptight (h/t fretslider) that anomalous warming events prove climate change. So your insinuation that coolists are trying to prove global cooling by providing examples of anomalous cooling is simply a projection. Don’t weaponize warm weather events. and you won’t receive a response of cool ones in return.

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B Clarke
Reply to  icisil
July 31, 2021 5:49 am

These anomalous cold events are more record breaking than so called hot events in the n/h in summer ,with a almost total ban on cold events in any hemisphere by msm ,no wonder loydo has to be seen to dismiss these cold events , its no surprise with a continuing la nina and PDO and AMO entering their 30-year cool cycles,

There’s also a coordinated international effort to minipulate public opinion on so called warm/ hot events through msm thats its “not in the future but now” =global warming , a complete lie , so we see the desperate manipulation, because of the cooling events coming,

I give no ground to the likes of loydo who only appear to counter the truth, he’s well aware of the next cooling cycles coming his only purpose is to distract the casual reader away from the truth.

Loydo
Reply to  B Clarke
July 31, 2021 4:34 pm

Go and look up the ratio of hot to cold records and the long term trend in SST anomaly for yourself instead of parrotting the partisan, doubt-mongering bs you read here. Minipulated indeed.

B Clarke
Reply to  Loydo
August 1, 2021 3:06 am

You have just proved what I said in the post your replying to.

You also don’t seem to understand in context what manipulated means, are you saying the msm don’t only report one type of weather,are you saying msm are truthful, neutral and not agenda pushing, try answering the questions loydo.

Richard Page
Reply to  Loydo
August 1, 2021 3:38 am

Mini what?

Reply to  Loydo
August 1, 2021 5:56 am

“Go and look up the ratio of hot to cold records and the long term trend in SST anomaly for yourself instead of parrotting the partisan, doubt-mongering bs you read here.”

I don’t like to debate with scoundrels or imbeciles, but consider that the warming trend occurred from 1977 to early 2020, and the cooling trend has ony been n occurring since ~Feb 2020.

Bellman
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
August 1, 2021 7:54 am

A cooling trend of 17 months? How significant is it?

And this is on the back of a 42 year warming trend. Yet 10 years ago we were bring assured there had been a cooling trend since the start of the century. Maybe it would be better to be more cautious before jumping to conclusions in future.

B Clarke
Reply to  Bellman
August 1, 2021 9:16 am

A cooling trend of 17months is very significant, it completely destroys the myth of linear global warming.

Bellman
Reply to  B Clarke
August 1, 2021 12:28 pm

Who is saying global warming will be linear? If you mean year to year, then that’s absurd. Have you not heard of ENSO? If you mean the long term trend, then it’s difficult to see how the last few months have made any impact on the assumption of a linear trend. The trend from December 1978 in UAH has increased slightly since February 2020. The trend from 1977 in HadCRUT has dropped by 0.01°C / decade since February 2020.

B Clarke
Reply to  Bellman
August 1, 2021 1:05 pm

The media thats who,but you knew that,thats were the agenda is played out, thats were there telling every one its to stop a 1.5c rise thats were they say every year has seen a average rise in temps across the globe ,

Reply to  Bellman
August 1, 2021 3:30 pm

See hundreds of extreme-cold events worldwide at Electroverse.net – as we correctly predicted in 2002.

THE REAL CLIMATE CRISIS IS NOT GLOBAL WARMING, IT IS COOLING, AND IT MAY HAVE ALREADY STARTED
By Allan M.R. MacRae and Joseph D’Aleo, October 27, 2019
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/10/27/the-real-climate-crisis-is-not-global-warming-it-is-cooling-and-it-may-have-already-started/
 

Bellman
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
August 1, 2021 4:35 pm

You were talking about a 17 month global cooling trend. I don’t care how many “hundreds” of extreme cooling events are reported by some dubious web site, the claim relates to global temperatures not anecdotes. I’m sure sites like this have been pointing out hundreds of cold events for decades, all during the 42 year warming trend.

For all I know your 2002 prediction will be spot on, but you need to wait for the evidence before claiming a few months dip coinciding with a La Niña or two, is prove of your prediction.

B Clarke
Reply to  Bellman
August 1, 2021 9:31 pm

By dubious do you mean their liars ,making it up , photo shopping every event ? Or is dubious another hate word used by warmests when the truth is shown ?

I think I have the full measure of you now bellman .

Bellman
Reply to  B Clarke
August 2, 2021 4:14 am

By dubious, I mean it’s an alarmist site, dedicated to the idea that we are about to suffer cataclysmic cooling caused by a grand solar minimum and a polar inversion, and urges people to relocate and prepare for the end times. By dubious I mean they then look for articles that confirms this hypothesis.

I first noticed the dubious nature of their claims in June 2019, when it was reported here that CET was on track to be the 17th coldest June on record.

Central England on Course for it’s [sic] 17th Coldest June in 360 Years of Records — Crop Concerns — Grand Solar Minimum
I pointed out at the time that it was on no such course, and in fact June 2019 was pretty average, at 172nd coldest, around 1.5°C warmer than their prediction. They also claim that May 2019 was “historically cool” (it was about average), before going on to warn of impending famines caused by all this historical coolness.

Incidentally, July and August were both above average, Summer 2019 was in the top 50 warmest summers in the CET.

Reply to  Bellman
August 1, 2021 3:38 pm

“Maybe it would be better to be more cautious before jumping to conclusions in future.”

The entire catastrophic human-made global warming hypothesis is a fifty-year-old fraud.

THE CATASTROPHIC ANTHROPOGENIC GLOBAL WARMING (CAGW) AND THE HUMANMADE CLIMATE CHANGE CRISES ARE PROVED FALSE
By Allan M.R. MacRae, B.A.Sc.(Eng.), M.Eng., January 10, 2020
https://thsresearch.files.wordpress.com/2020/01/the-catastrophic-anthropogenic-global-warming-cagw-and-the-humanmade-climate-change-crises-are-proved-false.pdf
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Bill Powers
Reply to  Loydo
July 31, 2021 11:35 am

No no, loydo the alarmist warmist’s have been wrong since the faceless cultural elite changed the narrative from the coming ice age of the 70’s to irreversible catastrophic Global Warming and it is all mans fault in the 80’s. The narratives objective is for majority acceptance of Central Government Control over the masses.

Of course anyone paying attention knows that everything the FCE media focuses on from Global WArm…ahh we really meant Climate Change all along to the best Chinese flu that U.S. taxpayer money can buy is about creating a narrative that the individual is in deadly danger and needs to be saved by a strong central authoritarian government. And this darn climate just won’t cooperate with their narrative so they have to make up new danger as they go along.

David A
Reply to  Loydo
July 31, 2021 6:11 pm

Nope, straw man.

They are however very cool.

Andrew Wilkins
Reply to  Steve Case
July 31, 2021 5:04 am

But according to the thermageddonists, it was never going to happen again….

Curious George(@moudryj)
Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
July 31, 2021 8:11 am

It can happen any number of times. It is only weather, not climate 🙂

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Tom Johnson
Reply to  Steve Case
July 31, 2021 5:57 am

1957 huh? That was 64 years ago. One might wonder if there’s a natural weather cycle of about that many years???

Paul Johnson
Reply to  Steve Case
July 31, 2021 7:57 am

The longer you keep records, the more extreme the events you record.

Reply to  Steve Case
July 31, 2021 1:12 pm

EARTH IS COOLING, NOT WARMING – THE GLOBAL COOLING IS CAUSED BY LOW SOLAR ACTIVITY, EVEN AS ATMOSPHERIC CO2 INCREASES – MORE PROOF THAT RISING CO2 CONCENTRATIONS DO NOT DRIVE DANGEROUS GLOBAL WARMING. GLOBAL TEMPERATURE IS NOT AFFECTED BY FOSSIL FUELS – THAT IS JUST ANOTHER BIG LIE BY LEFTIST PROPAGANDISTS, WHO LIE FOR FINANCIAL AND POLITICAL GAIN.

IN 2002 we PREDICTED THIS GLOBAL COOLING TO START CIRCA 2020 BASED ON LOW SOLAR ACTIVITY, AND THAT PREDICTION HAS PROVED CORRECT.

CLIMATE CATASTROPHE CANCELLED!
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RECORD SUMMER CHILLS ENGULF THE U.S., MORE HISTORIC COLD AND SNOW BATTER BRAZIL, AS THE SUN REMAINS ‘BLANK’ FOR THE THIRD CONSECUTIVE DAY
July 31, 2021 Cap Allon
It may be mid-summer, but a polar invasion is forecast to blast much of the United States this weekend.
By sunrise Saturday, the mercury is expected to tumble into the 40s (sub 10C) across much of Upstate New York — such readings would break or at least near all-time low-temperature records for the final day of July.
MORE RECORD COLD STRIKES BRAZIL
Rare snow and subzero cold continues to strike vast regions of South America.
The Antarctic air mass struck Brazil’s global agricultural powerhouse, decimating coffee, sugarcane and orange crops.
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In order to be a true mainstream climate scientist, you’ve got to make scores of scary alarmist predictions. To end 2020, climate alarmists have made 48 fully-expired such very-scary predictions of catastrophic global warming, and every single one has been WRONG!
 
Excerpt from my paper
CLIMATE CHANGE, COVID-19, AND THE GREAT RESET  Update 1d 

“Rode and Fischbeck, professor of Social & Decision Sciences and Engineering & Public Policy, collected 79 predictions of climate-caused apocalypse going back to the first Earth Day in 1970. With the passage of time, many of these forecasts have since expired; the dates have come and gone uneventfully. In fact, 48 (61%) of the predictions have already expired as of the end of 2020.”
 
Climate doomsters have a perfect NEGATIVE predictive track record – every very-scary climate prediction, of the ~80 they have made since 1970, has FAILED TO HAPPEN.
 
Fully 48 of these predictions expired at the end of 2020. Never happened! Never will!
What are the odds at 50:50 per prediction?
3.6*10^-15 = 0.0000000000000036
The odds of that are one in 281 Trillion!
 
There is a powerful logic that says no rational person or group could be this wrong, this utterly obtuse, for this long. They followed a corrupt agenda, and they lied again and again.
 
The ability to predict is the best objective means of assessing scientific competence, and the global warming alarmists have NO predictive track record – they have been 100% wrong about everything and nobody should believe these fraudsters – about anything!

goldminor
Reply to  Steve Case
July 31, 2021 1:24 pm

Interesting, there was a big heat spike in Northern California/Southern Oregon in that year (1957) similar to the heat wave in this year. Coincidental, but makes me wonder. Looks like 1957 was also a low rainfall year for California just like we see now.

Reply to  Steve Case
July 31, 2021 1:25 pm

Global LT temperatures have cooled 0.6C since Feb2020, In 2002 we correctly predicted this cooling based on low solar activity. In 2019 there was a huge crop failure across the Great Plains of North America, caused by excessive wet and cold weather. In 2021 the early fruit and grape crop in Germany and France was frozen out. Spring has been late and cold in the Northern Hemisphere and Fall and Winter have been unusually cold in the Southern Hemisphere.

The warmist scientists and their comrades in the media were able to perpetuate their global warming fraud during a period of natural, solar-driven global warming, but now the Sun has gone quiet and the world is naturally cooling.

Even the most obtuse of humanity will soon understand that there is no global warming crisis – that they have been duped and scammed out of trillions of dollars, and their vital energy systems have been badly compromised by intermittent, diffuse green energy nonsense,.Lives have been lost due to the global warming / green energy scam.

To end 2020, climate doomsters were proved wrong in their scary climate predictions 48 consecutive times – the odds of that being mere random stupidity is 1 in ~281 trillion! It’s not just global warming scientists being stupid – in fact, they knew they were lying from the start.

Global warming alarmism is a fifty-year-old climate-and-green-energy scam – it IS that simple.

THE CATASTROPHIC ANTHROPOGENIC GLOBAL WARMING (CAGW) AND THE HUMANMADE CLIMATE CHANGE CRISES ARE PROVED FALSE
By Allan M.R. MacRae, B.A.Sc.(Eng.), M.Eng., January 10, 2020
https://thsresearch.files.wordpress.com/2020/01/the-catastrophic-anthropogenic-global-warming-cagw-and-the-humanmade-climate-change-crises-are-proved-false.pdf

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
July 31, 2021 1:53 pm

For scores of extreme cold events worldwide, see Electroverse.net.
 
During periods of low solar activity, the jet streams in both hemispheres deviate toward the equator, causing rapid, short-term extreme cold events.
 
As others have pointed out, such short-term cold events will quickly harm crops, even without having a major impact on average global temperatures. That is happening now.
 
At the same time, our vital electrical energy grids have been compromised, destabilized by intermittent green energy nonsense.
 
Our idiot politicians have been fooled by climate-and-green-energy fraudsters. Given their inability to think rationally and respond quickly and intelligently, this will end badly.

farmerbraun
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
August 1, 2021 7:12 pm

“Fall and Winter have been unusually cold in the Southern Hemisphere.”
Where could I find some numbers to confirm that ? Preferably from NZ observations.

farmerbraun
Reply to  farmerbraun
August 1, 2021 7:46 pm

Maybe NZ is a very poor proxy for Southern Hemisphere weather .
But it could be the fact that it was a dry and sunny winter that made it such a breeze for pastoral farmers ; certainly one of the easiest in my four decades here.

July 31, 2021 2:22 am

Any more of this Global Warming and there will be Glaciers developing in Southern Brazil.

george1st:)
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
July 31, 2021 3:57 am

A chilling example indeed .

Ron Long
July 31, 2021 2:41 am

As a resident of nearby Argentina I can agree with the cold outbursts becoming more common. It just snowed in Mendoza, which occurs about every 4 or 5 years, but crop loss due to frosts seem to be increasing. However, the mainstream media will report this as heat waves are global warming and cold waves are weather. Nothing to see here, move along.

Fran
Reply to  Ron Long
July 31, 2021 8:51 am

And how’s the overall precipitation been there so far this year? Santiago has been very dry this winter

Ron Long
Reply to  Fran
July 31, 2021 1:40 pm

Fran, Mendoza is one month without precipitation.

Fran
Reply to  Ron Long
July 31, 2021 2:30 pm

Ok so dry as well. Horrible winter so far here, hope it picks up the coming months

Rick C
Reply to  Ron Long
July 31, 2021 10:45 am

Ron: Wait, didn’t the climate modelers predict this? I’m pretty sure that they’ve predicted every possible type of weather is caused by CO2 climate change.

Reply to  Rick C
July 31, 2021 1:57 pm

Warmer, colder, wetter, drier, stormier, calmer – it’s ALL caused by fossil fuels!!! These are just some of the BIG LIES of the leftist global warming cabal.

Now that the world is naturally cooling, they’ve come up with a new doozie – the biggest BIG LIE: “Global cooling is caused by global warming!” Right-O!

The average person is stupid – if you repeat a BIG LIE often enough, they will believe it and start repeating it themselves. That is just the average person, and remember that half of them are stupider than that! (h/t George Carlin)

Dusty
July 31, 2021 3:45 am

Speaking of rare, here on the sunny, summer, southern shores of Lake Ontario, one might think it New Year’s Eve not the August’s Eve, waking up to the furnace running to keep the house above 50d F at 6 AM. (The record low for the day is 48.) Of course, it would be a couple of degrees colder south of the Thruway.

Scissor
Reply to  Dusty
July 31, 2021 7:18 am

I plan to enjoy today’s “heatwave” in Colorado with a high about 20F lower than normal. The rainy drought seems to be unprecedented, if not at least oxymoronic.

Drake
Reply to  Scissor
July 31, 2021 9:49 am

I woke to temperatures in the 30s F at 8600 ft elevation in southern Utah. The monsoonal moisture producing heavy dew, second day is the last 3, a rare occurrence in the summer here.

The Forest service has lifted all restrictions for campfires and use of gas chainsaws, etc. due to all of the recent rains. The fire season here started with “some of the worst conditions evah!”, but now, for us, not so much.

Amazing what a minor change of WEATHER patterns will do, ain’t it??

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Drake
July 31, 2021 2:24 pm

“Amazing what a minor change of WEATHER patterns will do, ain’t it??”

Yes, it’s like the difference between night and day sometimes.

Arizona and surrounding areas are getting lots of rain now. Just a few weeks ago they were under a heatwave that got Griff all exercised.

Now, the heatwave is sitting on top of my area of the nation, and the high-pressure system associated with it, is pumping moisture into Arizona and the rest of the western region.

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SAMURAI
July 31, 2021 3:54 am

As both the PDO and AMO reenter their respective 30-year cool cycles, there will be many more “rare” cold events taking place in Northern and Southern Hemispheres.

Unfortunately, Brazil will be especially economically damaged by the coming cooling global temps because coffee farmers have been planting coffee at ever higher elevations over the last 30 years under their erroneous belief in CAGW, and most of these new high-elevation growing areas will have to be abandoned due to severe frost damage.

Drake
Reply to  SAMURAI
July 31, 2021 9:50 am

Will they be determined to be Climate Change refugees when they have to move down the mountain 1000 feet?

fretslider
July 31, 2021 4:33 am

It it’s hot it’s man made global heating etc

If it’s cold it’s unusual natural variation

I’m sure the Conversation can explain it.

Scissor
Reply to  fretslider
July 31, 2021 7:33 am

It should be called the “Dictum” or perhaps the “Narrative,” as definitely conversation is not part of their message.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Scissor
July 31, 2021 8:05 am

I like “The Monologue.”

Scissor
Reply to  AGW is Not Science
July 31, 2021 8:54 am

That’s fitting in the sense that the message is one directional but it should have an evil or at least ignorant connotation too.

MarkH
Reply to  Scissor
August 1, 2021 3:57 am

Perhaps “The Diatribe”?

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  Scissor
August 1, 2021 4:53 am

The Diatribe.

Mr.
Reply to  fretslider
July 31, 2021 8:19 am

The Contemplation.

July 31, 2021 4:41 am

No matter what happens in Texas or Brazil, it will still probably be the hottest year evah!

Bob boder
Reply to  Tom Halla
July 31, 2021 7:22 am

Plus the revaluation that Antarctica is 2 degrees colder than it was 50 years ago somehow has no affect on the global temp record

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Tom Halla
July 31, 2021 8:06 am

Once the fix adjustments are in…

Andrew Wilkins
July 31, 2021 5:00 am

The thermageddonists will say, “See, we told you: global warming means it’ll get cold! Er….”

Coeur de Lion
July 31, 2021 5:23 am

What’s the final number of deaths Oregon heatwave versus Texas February cold snap? Anyone know?

Mr.
Reply to  Coeur de Lion
July 31, 2021 8:21 am

Dunno, but I bet that “natural causes” accounts for more than both of them together.

Peta of Newark
July 31, 2021 5:26 am

Quote:”polar air continued moving upwards toward the Sao Paolo metropolis and Minas Gerais — states known for their vast agricultural fields”

Yes Willie Soon, you called out correctly:
What’s the Jet Stream doing so far north, why is the vortex so big?

Yes: Peta of Newark, you called correct also ;
Deserts ##, in common with he11, are Cold Places – a warm(er) atmosphere means a cooling Earth/earth

## AKA: “vast agricultural fields”

Bruce Cobb
July 31, 2021 5:36 am

Is this an example of “Climate Change” or is it “just weather”?
I know! Let’s ask our resident climate “expert” Griff!

Ebor
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
July 31, 2021 7:53 am

Yes, Griff please do weigh in! (or do you selectively hype weather events?)

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Ebor
July 31, 2021 2:31 pm

I don’t think Griff does “cold”.

Pauleta
July 31, 2021 5:40 am

Sao Paolo metropolis = São Paulo, it’s Portuguese, not Italian

rbabcock
July 31, 2021 5:49 am

You need to take the “very rare” out of the headline. Starting this year, it will become the norm. Twelve years from now people will be abandoning areas north/south of 60 degrees as the next global ice age starts in earnest. (as probable as the current predictions).

Don Perry
Reply to  rbabcock
July 31, 2021 6:12 am

Please! No more predictions.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Don Perry
July 31, 2021 2:33 pm

Yeah, let’s just follow the bouncing ball whichever direction it goes.

Richard Page
Reply to  rbabcock
July 31, 2021 12:20 pm

Is there any possible chance that we could stop this practice of taking a temperature curve (either upwards or downwards), placing a ruler against it and saying “based on this highly scientific model, we will have thermageddon/new ice age in x years”? Trying to impose a linear structure on a non-linear cyclical system is an exercise in futility.

Dusty
July 31, 2021 6:06 am

Not exactly impressed with this story now, nor with the terms fierce, rare, strange, unusual, or blizzard, or even it being worthy of a WUWT post …

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_in_Brazil

And 1857 wasn’t the last time a blizzard hit Brazil. Try 2013:

Bob boder
Reply to  Dusty
July 31, 2021 7:25 am

1957 and that’s a snowman storm not a blizzard, I believe the story said 4.3 feet of snow

Dusty
Reply to  Bob boder
July 31, 2021 5:04 pm

Sorry about the typo. I meant to refer to the the 1957 in story as you note.

If I got 5 negatives because of a typo, so be it, but if this July 28-29 snowfall is a blizzard, so is the one in 2013 as the vid explains and it is hardly any different than this one if you compare videos of the one this week.

And as the accompanying wiki entry confirms this it isn’t very rare which is why I criticized this post — the write up is so much like the sales pitch climate caterwaulers use.

TonyG
Reply to  Dusty
August 1, 2021 1:53 pm

The write-up was done by Teo Blašković on a website called “The Watchers” so I’m not sure what your point is.

Dusty
Reply to  TonyG
August 2, 2021 4:10 am

My point was clear — the story’s characterization of the event is bs and posting it here without a bit of criticism is tacit endorsement.

Andy Pattullo
July 31, 2021 7:29 am

Stay tuned while the pundits figure out how they can categorically blame this on human-derived CO2 emissions, Republicans, free speech and racism.

Scissor
Reply to  Andy Pattullo
July 31, 2021 7:47 am

That’s it. A narrative only needs to be crafted to account for every event. Gaslighting as defined in 1944 was primitive.

griff
July 31, 2021 8:00 am

More importantly Greenland just saw its third largest day of melt recorded in 70 years of monitoring…

Greenland experienced ‘massive’ ice melt this week, scientists say | Reuters

Strange that Watts doesn’t cover these record floods, record monsoon rainfalls, record temperatures in Greenland, Siberia etc, record heatwaves….

almost as if the predicted results foreseen by climate science are coming along…

Archer
Reply to  griff
July 31, 2021 8:09 am

Oh no, 12 GT lost from nearly 200,000, after it has gained mass for several years in a row.

MarkW
Reply to  Archer
July 31, 2021 9:11 am

You should know by now that griff only cares about data that supports what his masters tell him to believe in. Everything else is an anomaly, weather, or lie from climate deniers.

Krishna Gans
Reply to  Archer
August 1, 2021 7:11 am

It’s assumed by weather models, it will snow again at Greenland:

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The Alps just started snow cover

Curious George(@moudryj)
Reply to  griff
July 31, 2021 8:16 am

You have a lot of media coverage for these.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  griff
July 31, 2021 8:20 am

Swing, and a miss, Griffie. Try again.

Mr.
Reply to  griff
July 31, 2021 8:29 am

WUWT usually covers all “record / unprecedented” events just to provide evidence that –
1. they weren’t ‘unprecedented’, and
2. they were weather events, not climate trends.

Ebor
Reply to  griff
July 31, 2021 8:46 am

Ah, Griff – there you are! So, let’s discuss “record” weather events, and let’s take the example of Oregon’s recent “unprecedented” heat wave (of particular interest to me as I’m a resident of the state). It was truly extremely hot but it was not “unprecedented” as there was at least one similar extremely hot event around the turn of the 19th century (“The Pacific Northwest and the Midwest also have numerous states with records over 115 degrees. For example, the hottest temperature recorded in Oregon is 119 degrees which was set twice in 1898, once on July 29 in Prineville and then on August 10 in Pendleton” – https://weather.com/news/climate/news/hottest-temperature-recorded-50-states) which, surely, can’t be linked to human CO2 emissions (BTW that era also had some truly monstrous fire events). Of course, comparing temperature measurements from then to now is fraught with hazards (urban heat island effects, accuracy of the old measurements, etc, etc.) so one can argue endlessly about which event was hotter and therefore the “record” event. But the fact remains that it was/is spurious to declare that the recent Pacific NW heat wave validates the climate models. Same with other record weather events like the floods in Europe, or the snowfall in Brazil.

John Tillman
Reply to  Ebor
July 31, 2021 4:01 pm

The powers that be have ruled Pendleton’s 1898 record invalid. Yet my granddad told me about it in 1960. No doubt my grandmother would have backed him up, but she died of stomach cancer in 1952, when I was two.

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MarkW
Reply to  griff
July 31, 2021 9:09 am

Who cares that overall Greenland is gaining mass. griffie poo found one day when there was a lot of melt.

Rich Davis
Reply to  MarkW
July 31, 2021 10:59 am

Very much like his UK windmill reports, reporting the instantaneous maximum output for the year as if it were the norm.

As trolls go, griff isn’t even much fun to ridicule anymore.

icisil
Reply to  griff
July 31, 2021 9:59 am

Yet in late May there were epic, unprecedented gains, and a well-above average SMB from mid-June to late July. Strange that you didn’t mention that.

almost as if the predicted apocalyptic results foreseen by climate science are not coming along…
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whiten
Reply to  griff
July 31, 2021 10:11 am

Yes griff, you are correct.

WUWT always missed the importance of “importantly Greenland”… ice.

After sea lvl variation, that is the best indicator for climate.
Which in short term, like centuries V millennia, makes it better than sea lvl variation.

But hey, griff, you see that you have value… :).

whiten
Reply to  whiten
July 31, 2021 11:29 am

Salute you griff.

😜

whiten
Reply to  whiten
July 31, 2021 12:37 pm

Music is art, and beautiful.

The arena – Lindsey Stirling.

🖕

whiten
Reply to  whiten
July 31, 2021 2:22 pm

It is even worse when, “Imagine Dragons” goes full lyrics in “demon”… music

whiten
Reply to  whiten
July 31, 2021 2:37 pm

enjoy it “toys”.

Rich Davis
Reply to  griff
July 31, 2021 11:22 am

Oh yes, most importantly you need to distract from the facts that don’t support your hysterical ranting.

One day of model output after months of heavy gains. It’s just like your lies about UK windmills supplying 50% of electricity demand for a few minutes on one day. Lying through omission. Your specialty. Looks like natural gas is currently supplying almost 3x as much as wind and solar combined. Curious that you never mention anything like that.

With everything so grim, griff, in which time period would you prefer to live your life?
[__] Benign low CO2 1675-1750
[__] “Dangerous” CO2 1950-2025

Reply to  griff
July 31, 2021 12:14 pm

Total Arctic sea ice however is in the middle of the pack for recent years and had a little uptick today (31 July 2021):

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Greenland’s ice volume wave-train is noisy with big apparently stochastic fluctuations both up and down. Note the equally big uptick back in May for instance. The average smoothed wave-train shows Greenland ice to be well above the recent average:

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Richard Page
Reply to  griff
July 31, 2021 12:25 pm

Bloody hell Griff – you’re a frickin genius. I think you are most definately onto something here mate. You’ve just discovered that ice will melt at the height of summer – congratulations, there’s a Nobel prize just waiting for you to collect it! Sarc – as if it was actually needed.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  griff
July 31, 2021 2:37 pm

“More importantly Greenland just saw its third largest day of melt recorded in 70 years of monitoring”

It’s summertime in the northern hemisphere, Griff. The hottest part of the year. A little melting is to be expected.

Dusty
Reply to  griff
July 31, 2021 5:59 pm

Greenland Ice Sheet surface mass balance
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Sorry if this is huge pic, I don’t know how to resize it)
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(Would be helpful if you posted the link for the chart) SUNMOD

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J Mac
July 31, 2021 8:20 am

Brrrr! I think I’ll have another cup of coffee, while I can still afford it!
Life Begins After Coffee.

dh-mtl
July 31, 2021 8:42 am

Low atmospheric humidity is conducive with extreme weather events.

After 4 years of solar minimum and a year of La Nina the global atmospheric humidity levels should be quite low, and a major factor contributing to both the heat and drought in North America and the cold events in South America.

Looks like another year of La Nina ahead, so likely more extreme cold weather events this coming winter.

DMacKenzie
July 31, 2021 9:46 am

Southern Brazil, about Latitude 34 South, is mirror of the Latitude of southern California, so this is definitely unusual weather…..which, if it returns half the time for the next 30 years, will become “climate”….

Dusty
Reply to  DMacKenzie
July 31, 2021 5:53 pm

Porto Alegre is 30d S. Jacksonville is 30d N while San Diego is 32D N. I think one would need to know what the prevailing winter wind patterns are in Southern SA, though, before comparing climate conditions with geographical locations up here.

July 31, 2021 11:14 am

Antarctica is the dominant feature of earth’s climate in the Pleistocene. It’s where to look for hints as to future trends.

goldminor
Reply to  Hatter Eggburn
July 31, 2021 1:38 pm

I have been watching the upper level wind patterns down there. Look at the size and heading of winds at 10 Hpa. They are pushing strongly up over the Pacific Ocean. I think that this will have consequences overall for global temps. The wind field is more extensive than in previous years.. … https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/10hPa/overlay=temp/orthographic=178.63,-78.60,382/loc=-23.470,-85.046

Reply to  goldminor
July 31, 2021 2:13 pm

No doubt Antarctica is exporting a chilling influence. Anywhere else such high level winds would be much colder than the surface. But not Antarctica. A world containing Antarctica is definitely not a world where warming is something to worry about.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  goldminor
July 31, 2021 2:46 pm

Yes, it is kind of bowing out there, isn’t it.

Thanks for the link.

ren
July 31, 2021 1:53 pm

Visible strong jet stream blockage at 500 hPa over the Pacific and a wave that moved over southern Brazil.comment image

Fran
Reply to  ren
July 31, 2021 5:38 pm

That high pressure has been blocking rains for the whole of July here in central Chile

Chris Norman
July 31, 2021 4:16 pm

The grand solar minimum is here. Great cold is coming.

Krishna Gans
Reply to  Chris Norman
August 1, 2021 4:40 am

La Niña comes back
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goldminor
Reply to  Krishna Gans
August 5, 2021 3:14 pm

There is a new active region in the north which will soon come into view. Watch and see if the 3.4 trends back down after this active region turns the corner.

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goldminor
Reply to  goldminor
August 7, 2021 2:43 pm

Once again my theory proves to have some merit to it.

goldminor
Reply to  goldminor
August 7, 2021 3:04 pm

Here is today’s look at that emerging sunspot as it rounds the corner.

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goldminor
Reply to  goldminor
August 7, 2021 7:47 pm

Correction, it is an active region so far. Maybe it will become a sunspot later.

Baenziger
Reply to  Chris Norman
August 8, 2021 2:16 am

LOL. We have a lot of solar activity for a “grand solar minimum”. Last Monthly SSN was 34.4, that’s already half of peak Solar Cycle 24.

Mike Jonas(@egrey1)
Editor
July 31, 2021 6:15 pm

“The last time a blizzard hit Brazil was back in 1957”

I don’t want to be (or appear to be) at all alarmist, but it seems to me entirely possible that we are right now witnessing the start of the next cooling phase in the multi-decadal ‘cycle’. Maybe it will be quite minor, like the last one which was approx 1940s to 1970s. I say ‘minor’ even though the last one generated ‘ice age’ scary headlines in the media, because in terms of decrease in global temperature it really wasn’t at all dramatic.

I suspect that at multi-decadal time scales, our climate is driven much more by laritudinal movement in weather systems, including movements in the upper layers of the atmosphere, than it is by ‘forcing’. In other words, changes in global average surface temperature can be from a change in distribution rather than from a change in radiation and/or total energy.

I suspect also that we have to wait and see how things turn out, because no climate scientist or climate model can reliably predict anything yet.

Pat from kerbob
July 31, 2021 10:21 pm

Looks like problem solved as far as AGW goes

We’ll all be nicely frozen and dead soon.

What a relief

William Astley
August 1, 2021 9:14 am

The public is not aware that a there is a geomagnetic excursion (suddenly the magnetic field strength drops in specific regions of the earth) that started in 1997. The geomagnetic field changes of increased in speed since the start of the change.

The geomagnetic field protects the earth from super high speed (energy) particles which are mostly protons.

This super high speed particles are incorrectly called Galactic Cosmic Rays (GCR) as the it was assumed initially that they were a ‘ray’ and the dumb name stuck. The super high energy GCR makes ions and free charge in the atmosphere. This creates clouds and changes climate.

These new geomagnetic poles …. like the new geomagnetic ‘pole’ that has moved and will stay over the South American continent create a ‘polar’ like vortex by changing the jet stream.

The South Atlantic geomagnetic ‘anomaly is a region where the strength of the geomagnetic field has dropped by 2/3. The South Atlantic geomagnetic anomaly should called the South American geomagnetic anal which is now centered over South America.

The field geomagnetic field strength over South America, is less than a third of its normal strength, as compared to other locations on the earth, same latitude as shown in this picture, which is taken from the paper link to, “The South Atlantic Anomaly: The Key for a Possible Geomagnetic Reversal”.
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The above picture is from this paper.

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/feart.2016.00040/full

The authors of the South Atlantic Geomagnetic anomaly paper appear to (pretend that they do not) know about about cyclic geomagnetic excursions, which occur in less than decade.

These cyclic geomagnetic excursions were discovered about 10 years ago. Geomagnetic excursions interestingly, occur just before extreme cooling events.

And oddly enough, the extreme cooling periods, like the YD abrupt cooling period occur immediately after the Dansgaard-Oescgher warming periods.

The D-O warming period are short warming periods that last either 20 years or 30 years, after which there is cooling and sometimes geomagnetic excursions which cause abrupt cooling events that last for a long time.

he D-O warming periods occur during the interglacial period and glacial period. They occur with a periodicity of 400 years and 1200 years.

Starting in about 1997, the geomagnetic field of the earth which was decaying at 5% per century, changed and is now decaying at 5% per decade. Ten times faster.

A decay rate of 5% per decade is a geomagnetic excursion that is happening now and which is affecting ‘climate’ now.

http://news.yahoo.com/earths-magnetic-field-weakening-10-times-faster-now-121247349.html
“Earth’s Magnetic Field Is Weakening 10 Times Faster Now
…Previously, researchers estimated the field was weakening about 5 percent per century, but the new data revealed the field is actually weakening at 5 percent per decade, or 10 times faster than thought.”

ren
Reply to  William Astley
August 1, 2021 1:19 pm

During periods of weak solar wind, definitely the geomagnetic field has a strong influence on the circulation in the upper troposphere.

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