Guest essay by Eric Worrall
h/t Dr. Willie Soon; Or is it only an “insurrection” when the protestors support President Trump?
The Sunrise Movement describes itself as a “climate revolution“. They published the following on their White House protest.
We are at the White House: No Compromises, No Excuses Biden
We need a CCC and bold climate policy now and we are not leaving till we get it.
Nikayla Jefferson | June 28, 2021
…
Our White-House Sit-In Demands:
No Compromise, No Excuses. Democrats must take their power seriously and do what’s needed with or without the GOP.
Meet with the People Who Elected You. We demand that Biden set up a meeting with Varshini Prakash, Executive Director of Sunrise Movement, and other movement leaders to hear our demands on infrastructure and negotiate with us.
Fully Fund the Civilian Climate Corps. This moment demands bold action and a significant infrastructure package to stop climate change and create millions of good jobs in the process. That is why we need a fully funded Civilian Climate Corps to put over 1.5 million Americans to work in good paying union jobs while combating climate change and building a sustainable future for our generation – all while giving us hope for the future and changing how we see the government.
Read more: https://www.sunrisemovement.org/movement-updates/we-are-at-the-white-house/
No doubt Congress will shortly announce an insurrection probe, into the threat posed to The Republic by radical Democrat supporters who describe themselves as climate revolutionaries.
Oooops! Your socialism is showing!
I agree with you.
No bail.
They want welfare government jobs … and they want to unionize as well?
The work crews that are picking up the highway garbage on Saturdays could also get together and create a union to improve their work environment.
All the County jails that have work release programs need to help the inmates with the ability to unionize, and get good paying union jobs.
And based on slave labor in western China.
Does wanting a “good paying” job really count as socialism? If so I imagine that the majority of people in the USA and the world would count as socialists. Or are you suggesting that people should be demanding “poorly paid” insecure jobs with no holidays, overtime, maternity leave, health care etc.
I’m still trying to figure out if Izaak is actually as clueless as his posts make him sound, or if he’s just phoning it in.
Nobody said anything about wanting jobs being anything. That’s nothing more than your inept attempt to change the subject.
The subject is individuals demanding that government provide good paying union jobs.
People can demand anything they want, up to and including unicorns for transportation. It’s when they think that they have a right to use government to enforce the providing of those things that socialism creeps in and destroys the economy.
I learned a new word the other day, Mark—WUWT is great for that—it’s prat. British slang, it means an ignorant fool who prattles on about things he doesn’t understand or know anything about.
Just sayin’ maybe you could find a use for a new vocabulary word. No particular reason.
Izaak, I think the difference is mainly that self-motivated people set about getting themselves qualified / experienced to find / create their good-paying, benefits-rich jobs through their own personal efforts, whereas the “socialists” want such sinecures provided to them as a given right.
Commenter Rah gave a salient example here recently with the transport industry in the USA currently needing ~ 40% more driver jobs, which are paying at entry level ~$1,500 per week, which is more than twice the unemployment benefit.
But to take advantage of such employment opportunities, one would have to get off one’s arse.
(and not mention that one’s entire qualifications for employment amount to a degree in “gender studies”)
Taking advantage of employment opportunities as a driver in the transportation industry would actually mean spending a lot more time on your arse……Butt I know the point you’re trying to make.
Especially whilst waiting for your truck to recharge
“Does wanting a “good paying” job really count as socialism?”
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Yes indeed, when the job tittle is under:
Social discrimination.
or/and
anarchy.
or/and
cancel culture… or culture revolution.
or/and
social and otherwise persecution.
or/and
social and otherwise oppression.
or/and
SJW
or/and
The bliss from and for the proletariat and it’s ever lasting dictating.
or/and
pro equality of outcome.
anti free trade and capital economy.
against equality of opportunity.
++++
cheers
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You mis-read and mis-quoted once again. He was talking about good paying government union jobs.
And as we all know, union members all say “Not my job, man”. Which means they have no interest in being productive or profitable when working. That is a direct result of make work socialistic thinking. It’s nice to have a mommy and daddy to take care of every little thing for you when you are a kid, but once you grow up, it’s boring and depressing.
They demand good paying union jobs fully funded by government, meaning funded by productive taxpayers. That’s socialism
Oh Izaak, learn to read.
In context, yes, it does count as Socialism.
I also appreciate that you admitted that you were imagining. I imagine attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion, but that doesn’t make them real.
It was real to Roy…
“Does wanting a good paying job really count as socialism?”
No. Socialism is when government controls the means of production (and pretty much everything else). There’s a bit more to it than that but for now that’s a good enough explanation.
“Does wanting a “good paying” job really count as socialism?” No, but wanting the government to provide it does.
Funny how they have to be “union” jobs. Aren’t good paying jobs enough? Or are we trying to subsidize the life style of union barons as well?
Well…
Unions usually are well organized to get out votes which usually go Democratic. It’s all part of a grand plan (which includes open borders and making Puerto Rico and Washington DC states) to guarantee one party rule for a long time.
I question that. The unions are not happy about the sudden flood of unskilled labor. And no matter how corrupt the executives are, the rank and file members can still kick them to the curb if they get motivated enough, and of course no one can see who they vote for in the polling booth.
I’m betting a lot of Ex-president Trump’s votes came from blue-collar union members.
Union workers aren’t happy with the competition.
I see no evidence to support a belief that the union bosses are unhappy with it.
I’d question that too.
The more members a union has the more powerful the union bosses are.
I don’t think the union bosses give a rats arse where the votes come from. It’s all fodder
Bingo
Chaamjamal, may I use your website for reference purposes?
Good share. Thanks
Bring back written letters instead of social media. If they had to pay for stamps, these twits wouldn’t have enough money to mail their comrades.
The digital umbilical cord.
Lemmings and sheep get lonely also, you know.
Actual, most protestors are college-educated, white people from well-to-do middle and upper-class families.
Who have never had a job and quite possibly never will.
Correction, they are college undeducated.
Actual, most protestors are college
-educated-indoctrinatedFixed that for you
An insurrection is when you try to overthrow an election or government. A demonstration is when you publicly lobby a government to do what you want. The second recognises the legitimacy of a government, and idealistically thinks it will act on the demands. The first just wants to change government.
And where does the “blockading” activity place these demonstrators on the lobbying > insurrection spectrum?
It would seem to make them an annoying nuisance, not much different than the idiotic election protesters when they were standing outside the Capitol claiming that the election was somehow stolen. It is not in any way comparable, however, to what took place when those same protestors later violently broke in to the Capitol building, assaulted police officers, and threatened to execute the Vice President and the Speaker of the House, forcing congressmen to cease legislating and run for their lives. Whether or not the activities at the Capitol were technically an “insurrection,” they were certainly many orders of magnitude more serious than some climate idiots blocking traffic.
Amazing how they could threaten to execute people when they had no weapons. The capitol protestors were all unarmed. They made no statements about executing anyone.
There was no assault on a police officer either. That was a lie put about on the day, but it was withdrawn quietly several weeks later.
Another police officer deliberately let them into the building.
The only person executed inside the capitol was Ashli Babbitt. She was unarmed, had <i>police standing idly behind her</i> as she walked forward, and was shot in the face by a cowardly agent who had already been told to stand down, but was so scared of a small, unarmed woman opening a door that he reacted with unreasonable force. She was no danger to anyone.
The protestors quite literally erected a gallows outside the Capitol and chanted “Hang Mike Pence” and “Bring out Pence.”
They then violently broke into the building and wielded bats and poles, while calling out as they roamed the halls that they wanted to find “Crazy Nancy.” This was all captured on video and displayed at the impeachment hearing.
While in the building, the rioters assaulted police officers, gouged their eyes, and caused one to lose 3 fingers. One of the rioters, Dominic Pezzola (aka “Spaz”), is now under indictment. According to an eyewitness affadavit who was part of his group, “other members of the group [i.e. Spaz and Co.] talked about things that they had done during the day, and they said that anyone they got their hands on they would have killed, including Nancy Pelosi.”
You should get a grip on reality. What happened at the Capitol was a disgusting tragedy and is in now way comparable to a bunch of soft headed fools blocking traffic.
See from 1:10 on. Mob chanting “Hang Mike Pence” while rampaging inside the Capitol starts around 1:40- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_7oq3KWf0U
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2021/02/10/impeachment-trial-managers-trump-fueled-rage-capitol-riot/6702506002/
https://www.newsweek.com/proud-boys-intended-kill-mike-pence-nancy-pelosi-fbi-witness-says-1562062
Was that a functioning gallows, or a symbolic act similar to hanging someone in effigy?
The individuals who crossed the line to engage in acts harming others will, hopefully, be properly punished. However, I don’t think that there is evidence that they were representative of all the people. It is like calling all the residents of Chicago criminals because of the actions of gang members.
The difference between residents of Chicago and local gang members is the average residents stay at home and try to go about their normal lives. The imbeciles rioting inside the Capitol were doing no such thing.
The majority of the mob that broke into the Capitol may simply have been hooligans and vandals. You may note that breaking and entering the U.S. Capitol while it is in session, then vandalizing it, skirmishing with police, and terrorizing the US Congress and forcing them to run for shelter is already “crossing the line.” The mob should all be prosecuted, and they should also be ashamed, assuming they are capable of such a thing.
The people who came with handcuffs, etc., and with a much more nefarious intent crossed an altogether different line. They should be prosecuted as well. None of them are comparable to normal people going about their lives in Chicago, supposedly tarnished by the actions of gangsters with whom they have no association.
They were antifa & BLM, encouraged by the FBI, all now getting a pass from the corrupt DoJ who are too busy prosecuting grandmothers.
The point that you missed, or purposely avoided, is that all in attendance at the protest are being painted with the same wide brush that characterizes a minority of individuals.
There is a difference between breaking into private property (clearly trespassing), and demanding that constituents have an opportunity to meet with their elected representatives in a public building.
[ https://www.lexico.com/definition/public_building ]
Years ago, I participated in a protest to the California state legislature. It was a significantly different experience because of how the capitol police handled it. They did not try to keep us out of the building, or prevent us from meeting with our representative. The Floor, where the legislature was in session, was off limits. However, there was a mechanism in place where, theoretically, constituents could talk with their representatives, when they weren’t otherwise occupied, such as actually voting.
Things were handled badly at all levels in Washington, which contributed to a high level of frustration and consequent anger.
But, it didn’t quite rise to the level of the Storming of the Bastille, which was another situation where those in power made bad decisions.
It’s funny. I saw videos of policemen pointing in the direction they wanted the protestors to go. There were no weapons and no politicians were hurt. All the “evidence” you talk about is questionable, just like the Steele dossier. You need to get a grip on reality and get your head out of your behind.
Perhaps you should take the time to watch all the videos, not only the ones that look innocuous. As for there not being weapons, the long list of federal charges would beg to differ. Try searching for “firearm” and “weapon” to begin with. This list is just the people they have managed to catch so far, of course:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases
As for politicians not being hurt, that is because they were thankfully evacuated before the mob got to them.
The evidence I am talking about is overwhelming. The fact that you can e.g. find a video taken on Jan. 6 that shows someone cuddling a kitten does not magically negate the painfully clear and overwhelming evidence of wrongdoing from other security cameras, police body cameras, spectator footage, and eyewitness reports.
So the capital police did not lower the barricades and hold doors open for people to enter the building?
Clyde, it was a fully-automatic assault guillotine.
I guess we could all make a more balanced judgement about the relative levels of violence perpetrated 1/5/21 in DC, but we need full disclosure of all evidence already revealed, eg –
and on and on it goes . . .
Ashli Babbitt died because she was part of an aggressive violent mob, and she attempted to breach an entrance inside the Capitol that was being defended by outmanned and terrified police officers. That’s an easy one to clear up. The Justice Department didn’t seem to find it particularly mystifying either:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/department-justice-closes-investigation-death-ashli-babbitt
As for number three, as a native of the DC area, that is also very easy to clear up. The DC government was, is, and always will be utterly incompetent. Their general incompetence has no bearing on the fact that a bunch of violent morons decided to storm the US Capitol, however, which is the relevant issue at question.
As for the rest, perhaps we also need to clear up the role of the Trilateral Commission, Freemasons, and Illuminati before we can make a balanced judgement about people smashing police officers with poles and shields while they break into the center of the nation’s government?
“Ashli Babbitt died because she was part of an aggressive violent mob, and she attempted to breach an entrance inside the Capitol that was being defended by outmanned and terrified police officers.” Thanks in advance for your support of police officers who do the same thing under the same conditions at BLM/Antifa riots.
OK. You’re welcome in advance.
You believe the DoJ?
From your link –
So, the single-shot shooter was actually a hero, it would seem.
That being the case, why the reticence to reveal the name of this hero to the adoring public (such as your good self), and of course the salivating media (whose incuriosity about the identify of this individual is somewhat mystifying)?
Surely a bravery award is in the offing?
You also mention lotsa video clips from body cameras and by-standers that the DoJ & FBI have examined.
Given the exuberance of these agencies to rush footage of such events into the public domain (eg George Floyd), again, why the reticence to show how the DC cop honorably discharged his
weaponduties?It may seem that the hero was a shooter to you. To most normal people, however, I suspect that the shooter just seems like a person trapped in a very bad situation- massively outnumbered and tasked with keeping an angry mob from entering a hallway (behind which lay the US Congress) and then having to decide what to do when the mob smashed a hole in a locked door and began crawling through while ignoring the police orders to desist.
The decision to shoot does not make the officer a hero. Nor does it make him a villain. The officer had no good options, and he chose to stand his ground and do his job. He could have turned and run away, allowing the mob to break through and continue rampaging through the Capitol. That would have been a bad choice too. Most rational people don’t have a hard time understanding why he acted the way he did.
Ashli Babbitt, on the other hand, seems to fall into Darwin Award territory. Smashing your way through locked doors and ignoring the frantic police on the other side who are telling you to desist lest you get shot is not a real bright move.
Got any evidence she was “[s]mashing [her] way through locked doors and ignoring the frantic police on the other side”?
Didn’t think so.
Nope. Got nothing. Other than the video evidence taken from at least two different angles.
Who could have imagined that smashing your way through a locked door separating you and an angry mob from every Congressman and Senator in America, while a policman stands on the other side of the door pointing a gun at you, could somehow result in getting shot? Who could possibly have anticipated that possibility?
Or, perhaps, this is all an Antifa plot and was really filmed in the same movie studio where they faked the moon landings? It can be so confusing to understand reality sometimes.
https://nypost.com/2021/01/06/video-shows-moment-ashli-babbit-was-fatally-shot-in-capitol/
What was she trying to break glass with, her bare hands?
Idiot.
Your twisting of events is sick.
And I don’t open kooklinks.
If you weren’t too stupid and lazy to look at the evidence, you would clearly be able to see the mob smashing the glass doors with chairs, poles, etc. I thought your type liked the NY Post. They are more sympathetic to people like you than most. In either case, there is ample video of this event. You simply need to pull your head out of your rear and then open your eyes in order to view it.
If you were to watch videos of the incident, you would be able to answer your own questions. People smashed the glass with items they picked up in the Capitol, and Babbit decided to crawl through a hole in the locked door. It might have been smarter for her first to reflect on the officer pointing a gun at her from the other side. As mentioned, she is probably up for a Darwin Award. Something tells me you may have one in your future as well.
Death threats now?
How quaint.
Amazing how desperately you need this garbage to be TRVTH.
Day of Rage: An In-Depth Look at How a Mob Stormed the Capitol – The New York Times (nytimes.com)
So we should be rioting in the streets because White Lives Matter? I guess we need to burn down parts of DC and riot every night but call it a peaceful protest. Maybe we can put in some murals and a statue of Ashli for all the libtards to worship.
Yes. That is exactly the reasonable conclusion you would reach from what I have said. The fact that a bunch of ignorant, violent right wing vandals shamefully desecrated the US Capitol obviously means that other ignorant, violent right wing vandals should now riot again and burn down parts of DC, while simultaneously venerating a woman who didn’t realize that breaking through a locked door inside the seat of the US government might cause a policeman on the other side of the door to shoot her. Your logic is impeccable. Bravo.
So no ANTIFA/BLM at the capital on Jan. 6th?
There is nothing sacred about the place were subsidies grow and liberty dies (incl. mine apparently, as a French citizen because the whole world must obey all of US law according to thugs).
If that’s all you’ve got, you might as well hang your head in shame and admit that your hatred of those who disagree with you politically has completed rotted your frontal cortex.
Yes. Only political tribalism could explain looking askance at violent rioters who smash their way into Congress, cause its members to flee in terror, brawl with police trying to keep them out, chant for the VP to be hanged, and run around the building vandalizing it. What else could possibly explain it, other than possibly a normal sense of civics and the ability to tell right from wrong?
Only political tribalism would make the description that you made.
Do you make a habit of parroting left wing talking points, or are you capable of thinking for yourself?
Good grief. Rioters smashing their way into Congress, Members of Congress fleeing, police brawling with rioters trying to keep them out, and the mob chanting for Pence to be hanged are all captured on video. Every single one of those incidents are captured, without exception, from security camera footage, body camera footage, and spectator footage. The evidence was shown in Trump’s second impeachment trial. No one contested it. The FBI hasn’t contested it. No one in their right mind has contested it, because it obviously took place.
Political tribalism may have made you into an imbecile who can’t grasp documented reality. Or you may have simply been born that way. There is no reason, however, why people on the left wing, right wing, or any other wing would not be talking about these points. They all happened, and in exactly the way I described.
They were organized antifa, do you not get this?
You fell right into their false flag.
I see now. Of course they were organized antifa. Apparently, according to one of your fellow travellers, they were even organized by the FBI. So from the numerous comments in this thread, I have tried to piece the story together. Please let me know if I have the general gist of what really happened:
The FBI for some reason decided to cause the US Capitol building to be broken into by a mob during a full session of Congress. The FBI installed instigators in Antifa. Antifa infiltrated the Proud Boys and others who were protesting in front of the Capitol. Antifa cleverly infiltrated them by wearing Antifa helmets and backbacks, as we can apparently clearly see on videos.
The well disguised Antifa/FBI infiltrators wearing Antifa helmets and Antifa backpacks rushed the police and somehow got the innocent mob behind them to follow. They broke down doors and windows, battled the police who tried barracading doors, and ultimately made their way into the Capitol. The innocent mob followed. Once inside the Capitol, the Antifa infiltrators in Antifa helmets began chanting “Hang Mike Pence.” The innocent mob surrounding them studiously remained silent. Antifa led the mob in roaming the halls of Congress, calling out that they were coming for Nancy Pelosi, vandalising, etc., and the innocent mob went along.
After leaving the building, the Antifa/FBI instigators then disbursed throughout the country, bragging to people in their hometowns about how they had taken the Capitol. Their friends and neighbors never realized until that point that these people were not who they had claimed to be all these long years, but were obviously actually Antifa/FBI instigators.
Am I at least close?
I recommend going cold turkey from smoking the CNN wacky weed.
How many of the insurrectionists were armed with firearms? How many of the pilice and other law-enforcement personnel were? Pretty stupid insurrectionists to come to the insurrection with no firearms (or F-15s, or nukes).
On their utter stupidity, we are in absolute agreement. However, angry mobs are generally mindless, which is one of the reasons they are always so dangerous, regardless of whether they bring pitchforks. Unarmed angry mobs have murdered countless people throughout history. They are an ugly phenomenon. This is true whether they are intending insurrection, responding angrily to idiotic rumors and bizarre conspiracy theories, or because they simply don’t like the color of someone’s skin. An angry mob is an angry mob. This particular mob was no different, and they weren’t exactly unarmed, as the bludgeoned police can attest.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55679623
Adam Schiff? Is this you behind the sockpuppet?
C’mon, fess up…
USA “the American Bald Eagle is a n.a.z.y symbol” TODAY?
That USATODAY?
I have no idea what you’re talking about, but if you prefer a different newspaper, you can take your pick. This story was not exactly a USA Today exclusive. Or you can watch the evidence that was publicly displayed at the 2nd impeachment trial. It’s not a secret. The video evidence and testimonies speak for themselves perfectly clearly.
Day of Rage: An In-Depth Look at How a Mob Stormed the Capitol – The New York Times (nytimes.com)
John Sullivan? What about him and CNN?
You seem to have the leftist narrative down pat.
What? I had to google to see what this is even supposed to mean. I take it you are referring to this bit of nonsense?:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/03/17/fact-check-journalist-who-filmed-capitol-rioter-not-employed-cnn/4707083001/
More fake news “fact checks”, go find the Sullivan vids and see what he said in his own words.
Sullivan is a BLM / Antifa activist on charges emanating from a different previous riot in Utah.
He was not employed by any media, but he sold his 1/6 clips to CNN and others for about $30k.
He got close to the action in DC by pretending to be part of the protest crowd, even urging them on.
He and his Antifa / BLM accomplice(s) are apparently specialists in taking videos of clashes between protestors (rioters & looters), then selectively cropping / editing to produce clips showing police responding with force, and distributing these clips to sympathetic media outlets and other activist groups.
These regressive leftists are allergic to truth.
Assumes facts not in evidence.
They not only didn’t violently break in, they were let in.
The only death was at the hands of a police officer.
You can quite literally watch video of the mob smashing their way through doors and windows to enter the building. You can watch them rampaging and yelling in the halls of the building, and you can watch and hear them chanting “Hang Mike Pence.” This is not “leftist narrative.” This is basic reality, from which you and your fellow travelers above seem quite divorced.
If you look close in the video you will see that the people creating the ruckus are wearing antifa helmets and backpacks with trump stickers on them. Also the person doing the video recording is an avowed antifa activist. The Trump supporters were outside telling people not to enter. No one at the capital was arrested on any weapons charge.
You can see lots of red hats. Not an antifa helmet in sight. If the antifa helmets were actually there, how is that all of the Viking helmeted geniuses rampaging alongside them failed to notice? How is that Antifa had enough foresight to know to hang out with the MAGA mob, foreseeing that they would be able to bust their way into the US Capitol (an act that no one has achieved since the British burned it down in 1814), so that they could cleverly chant “Hang Mike Pence” from the hallway of the building? Why is it that the good patriots without the “antifa helmets” seemed to have no problem whatsoever with antifa helmeted people next to them calling to hang the Vice President of the United States?
The idea that the person who took the video is “an avowed antifa activist” seems to have been pulled from your posterior. Even if that particular flight of fancy were true, however, what possible difference would it make? There was a rioting mob. Rioting mobs are bad, regardless of who films them. If you prefer other footage, then I would refer you to the numerous examples of body camera footage from the Capitol police. Were those policemen all antifa plants too? Is that what the lizard people on Venus are informing you in their regular broadcasts to your metal fillings?
“the video”?!??? There are hundreds of them.
“Is that what the lizard people on Venus are informing you in their regular broadcasts to your metal fillings?”
Wow, I’m sure this hurt. Deeply.
Then you are not looking.
A red hat does not a Trump supporter make
“Not an antifa helmet in sight.” — now you have exposed yourself as just another liar.
You can quite literally see whatever it is you want to see.
You can do more than that, it turns out. You can effectively see what the Capitol Police saw too. Here is some nice body camera footage of the mob assaulting police with poles:
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/29/body-cam-footage-shows-attack-on-police-capitol-riots-prokupecz-lead-vpx.cnn
You can also get a nice look at a police office being crushed by the mob here. The officer in question, Office Hodges, “said members of the mob ripped off his gas mask, tried to gouge out his eyes — and even assaulted him with his own baton.”
But of course, maybe they were really just helping him to look slimmer? Or maybe those police officers were all part of an Antifa plot to make Trump supporters look like ignorant, uncivilized, violent imbeciles? It so hard to say. You can, like, literally see whatever it is you want to see!
https://nypost.com/2021/01/08/video-shows-capitol-police-cop-getting-crushed-by-protesters/
https://nypost.com/2021/01/15/officers-hit-with-bear-mace-feared-death-during-capitol-riot/
Who’s the “them” you refer to? All demonstrators? All demonstrators who entered the building? Or only one or two or a few of them? Be specific: we wouldn’t want to punish someone for chanting “Hang Mike Pence” when he did not really chant “Hang Mike Pence.”
He’s going on about reps “running for their lives” – I recall AOC cowering in terror, in a building several blocks away from anything that was happening.
Gary, you’re talking to someone who only sees what he wants to see. Pointless to debate.
Or is a paid propagandist. Same-same either way.
Anonymous police officer! Is that how the Rule of Law works? What if all police officers were protected by anonymity?
Execute the Vice President Pence and Speaker Pelosi? Nobody charged with that, have you taken your inside knowledge to the FBI?
Most “insurrectionists” charged with trespassing.
The FBI are the ones providing this information to all of us.They are the ones pulling texts off of cell phones, checking the video surveillance evidence, etc., and supporting numerous federal charges. Apparently that information cannot penetrate tinfoil and only gets through to the rational, however.
https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/us-capitol-riot-mob-wanted-to-kill-mike-pence-run-pelosi-over-with-a-car/news-story/ab3277f484a9d04c162dc1c985aa4edc
As for what the FBI and federal prosecutors ultimately charge people with, that is up to them. It should be rather obvious, however, that mobs of people busting down the doors and windows of the Capitol and running amok while baying for the Speaker of the House, chanting their desire to hang the Vice President, and causing the Congress to run for its collective life, is a despicable thing. It should also be obvious that it is in no way comparable to a peaceful protest by a bunch of people who are doing no more than blocking cars, even if for a fairly deluded reason.
Yes, and the FBI has a long history of not charging the instigators they insert into various movements.
Ah, I finally see… The whole attack on Congress was instigated by the FBI! That makes a lot of sense!
Come to think of it, the FBI also has a long history of not charging the instigators they place in the Freemason Movement, who place hidden signals in buildings used by the Jews to house members of the Illuminati when they are holding meetings of the Trilateral Commission on which they sit! During those meetings, as we know, they inevitably discuss their success at faking the moon landings, which has been aided in large part by the high levels of fluoride in the water,and helps to explain why people do not believe in the alien lizard base that exists out of sight on the dark side of the moon.
How deep do you think this goes?!
Your heroes in the DoJ/FBI got caught trying to entice Roger Stone into being at the front of their little false flag event on Jan. 6, he wisely told them to p1ss off.
And you believe the FBI?
Another one of your problems.
“claiming that the election was somehow stolen”
It was you troglodyte. Turn off the television…
http://www.HereIsTheEvidence.com
http://www.NavarroReport.com
Got it. I’m a troglodyte. So too, apparently, is the entire justice system, which entertained numerous lawsuits over the election, only to discover that Trump’s lawyers were unable to provide any valid evidence, because they admitted in court that none actually exists.
Sydney Powell, after being sued for publicly making false accusations, gave the following defense via her lawyers,” “Even assuming, arguendo, that each of the statements alleged in the Complaint could be proved true or false, no reasonable person would conclude that the statements were truly statements of fact.”
So apparently “troglodyte” is now defined as someone who is able to make reasonable conclusions about facts.
The fact that something feels true to you does not make it so. The fact that you can imagine something vividly similarly does not in and of itself make it real. There is no evidence of any significant fraud whatsoever, and months of crazed accusations, conspiracy theories, and feverish “audits” hoping to find ballots printed on Chinese bamboo, or whatever people have dreamt up, have gone nowhere. The rather obvious explanation for this is that no evidence actually exists. Of course, there’s a guy who sells cheap pillows on late night infomercials who swears that he has secret evidence, so….
Another idiot parroting the standard laundry list of lies.
Lies, eh? Feel free to look up the statement’s by Trump’s lawyers, Sidney Powell’s lawyers, Trump’s Attorney General, Fox News and NewsMax, all of whom have publicly stated that there is no evidence of fraud.
Should you peruse their statements and find otherwise, be sure to let us know. Failing that, let us know when the infomercial pillow salesman releases the secret knowledge that nobody else has.
Until then, you might want to try looking like less of a putz.
Why are all the demonrats going crazy ahead of the completion of the Maricopa audit?
Yes, the cases were dismissed for a lack of standing because there was no evidence that fraud occurred.
Just because evidence of a crime isn’t available, it doesn’t mean a crime wasn’t committed.
When there is an accusation of a crime, the first thing that should be done is to investigate and try to obtain evidence. That crucial process wasn’t done. Therefore, there was no evidence. It is circular reasoning.
If apologists such as yourself were objective, you would have realized that on your own and not needed me to tell you what should be obvious.
No one investigates a crime unless there is sufficient evidence to indicate that one may have taken place. No one provided any such evidence. The people claiming that there was fraud (Powell, Giulani, Fox, Newsmax, etc.) were given every opportunity to let us all know on what basis they were making those claims. It turns out that they were making the claims without any basis whatsoever, and Powell (according to her lawyers) didn’t even think that anyone would be unreasonable enough to take what she was saying seriously.
I am not an apologist. I can’t even see what I would possibly be apologizing for. I am not the one suggesting that rioters attacking police and breaking into the Capitol is no big deal. I am not suggesting that the attackers were actually hidden Antifa wearing MAGA caps (or the ones wearing helmets, depending on which idiot you’re listening to), or that the FBI for some reason instigated an attack on the US Congress.
Nor am I the one claiming that there was election fraud just because a bunch of grifters confidently claimed that there was, only to later retract the claims, but not before a shockingly large bunch of idiots assumed that it all had to be true.
Those are things for which one should be ashamed. Believing things on the basis of evidence, rather than the basis of feelings, is not something to be ashamed of. It is, in fact, more or less the central theme of this very website, which you and your fellow travelers are busy bringing into disrepute, whether you understand it or not.
No, you’re just another liar.
If you have any contradicting facts, then you are welcome to bring them. If you do not have any relevant facts you can document that support your position, whatever it actually may be, then perhaps you should refrain from commenting. Your insults add no particular value, other than to illustrate the fact that you have no relevant argument to make.
Request DENIED.
Attempting to redpill you would be waste of my time.
Your statement is false.
There were numerous documented irregularities in the procedures. Joe Nova’s website carried an article on statistical analysis of the improbabilities of the run of numbers. None of those were in themselves proof of fraud. However, they were, in my opinion, sufficiently peculiar to warrant an investigation by a grand jury or other judicial body with the authority to issue subpoenas.
If a woman walks into a police station and says that she was raped at knife point by a man who wore a condom, are you prepared to tell the woman to go home because there is no obvious evidence of the crime? It is rare that a victim shows up with all the evidence necessary to convict the person who committed the crime. That is why we spend tax dollars to have detectives on staff, and crime labs with sophisticated equipment.
I think that you have double standards.
This is getting painful. I assume you are referring to the issue of Benford’s Law, about which there was lots of noise immediately after the election. The problem with using Benford’s Law is that it in no way applies to the situation at hand. The law applies only to very large numbers. The vote totals, however, were only large in aggregate. On a precinct by precinct level, which is where the supposed violations of Benford’s Law took place, the numbers were orders of magnitude too small for Benford’s Law to be applicable. This may explain for you why, after making lots of noise about supposed statistical anomalies, the entire issue of Benford’s Law quietly disappeared down a memory hole after a week or two, never to be brought up again.
This, of course, is what also happened to the next objection to the election, and then the next, and the next, etc. No matter how many of these are brought up and quietly disappear like puffs of smoke, there is always someone with another hypothesis, and it never occurs to people that perhaps there just aren’t any ghosts hiding under the bed and that the whole idea of election fraud is simply wrong.
If you are interested in understanding exactly what Benford’s Law is and why it is not remotely applicable to this election in the way people claim, then this guy does a very good job of explaining it simply, clearly, and without you needing to have much understanding of math:
As for your rather tasteless example, if a woman in that situation has the presence of mind to go to a doctor in a timely manner, then she will be able to gather enough evidence to provide to the police to serve as a basis for opening a deeper investigation.
There were multiple people making public allegations of voter fraud. Lawyers representing Trump’s side went to court numerous times. They were asked in multiple courtrooms if they were alleging voter fraud. They said no. Some were asked by judges if they had any evidence of voter fraud. They also said no. The lawyers said this because they were under oath to tell the truth. If they had no evidence of voter fraud, then they had no rational basis to believe there was voter fraud. Feelings, daydreams, and fun stories you make up with your friends are not evidence of actual real world events, even if you believe them really, really deeply.
Trump’s team made allegations about voting machines. What evidence did they have that there may be improprieties in the voting machines? None whatsoever, as it turns out. That’s why they are now saying, effectively, that they shouldn’t be held liable for those claims because only an imbecile would have believed the allegations to be true in the first place. Who do you think they are referring to?
Various news organizations also made lurid claims about voter fraud and voting machines (based, it seems, on erroneously believing that Powell must have had some actualy evidence). It turns out, however, that those news organizations couldn’t come up with a single shred of evidence either. So they were all forced to broadcast multiple, lengthy segments, publicly explaining in very simple, clear terms that there does not exist any evidence of voter fraud whatsoever. None, whatsoever.
Yet people still believe that this evidence must exist and is just hiding inside a pillow in a secret vault somewhere, waiting to come out.
It is not possible to prove that something doesn’t exist. You can’t prove that Santa Claus is not real. All you can do is force yourself to be rational and conclude that if there is no evidence that Santa Claus exists, then there is also no reason to believe that he exists. If you are unable to do that, then you will spend an eternity chasing ghosts and goblins, and you will never give up, because there is always a bed somewhere in the world that no one has looked under yet, and that might be the one that is sheltering the ghosts!
The last election was perfectly fair, even if your preferred candidate didn’t win. You and your fellows above need to get a grip and rejoin reality.
What about when you try to prevent the normal operations of government, including impeding the critical function of administration?
The unarmed demonstrators in January weren’t attempting to “overthrow” the government. It was, instead, an attempt through protest, to keep the then current government in power because they believed that fraud had been resorted to to actually “overthrow” the existing government.
Even if the January protestors were wrong, there was the appearance of impropriety, which has not been adequately addressed. There was, and is, a cloud over the legitimacy of the election of Biden. One would think that one of the first priorities of the newly ‘elected’ president would be to dispel the cloud with a bi-partisan investigation, instead of depending on the Media to ‘assure’ the electorate that there was no basis for all the ‘lies.’ Would the IRS accept as proof that one was not guilty of tax evasion just because some journalist came to the defense of the person(s) accused? The Rule of Law is being ignored by liberals.
They call themselves climate revolutionaries. Isn’t one meaning of revolutionary not the same as an insurrectionist?
Hey Tom,
You have provided your definition of both insurrection & demonstration.
Will you please provide your definition of Satire (and then go back and read the heading).
satire is a word that leftist like him never understand.
I would troll them and put the Civilian Climate Corp under the Army Corps of Engineers. And, fund dike maintenance and forestry fuel reduction and controlled burns with the cash.
Indeed. I think we would find little different than when I was in school decades ago. Of all the avowed socialists I knew in school, absolutely none of them envisioned their futures as one of the “workers”.
Note to John the Econ: I noticed the same thing back in the late 60’s early 70s when I was in college. All the socialists and would be utopians seemed to just take it for granted that they would be the philosopher kings in charge in their new socialist society. They never seemed to recognize the possibility that they probably would wind up in their new society as just another nameless worker. Strange blind spot.
EXACTLY! They always imagine themselves as over seers of the little worker bees, as high level administrators who got the good word out to the ignorant people and turned the world around to become a socialist paradise where they got cushy office jobs instead of baristas with $100,000 college debts.
or possibly a “Congress-Critter”
You hit that dead on, John.
My guess is that every one of those protesters expect the gummint to hire a bunch of workers that they will oversee and direct.
The slogan for the “Great Reset” is “You will own nothing and you’ll be happy”
Taking that to its logical conclusion, you won’t own yourself. In other words, you’ll be a slave. So on that note your comment that everyone likes, including me, should be changed to:
Of all the avowed socialists I knew in school, absolutely none of them envisioned their futures as one of the “slaves”.
And put all these clowns to work for 24 month enlistment. Lots of manual labor they can be forced to do.
They’re missing a letter in their name. How about Civilian Climate Corp Protest. That will make their acronym complete and accurate.
I would have them dig the foundations for wind turbines by hand. They could be equipped with spoons for the task.
Cut down the largest tree in the forest wiiiiiitttthhh….a HERRING!
Nice Milton Friedman reference.
If they’re worried about climate change causing sea level rise, let them build sea walls to protect low-lying cities from floods in the coming centuries. Make them build the sea walls by hand, with shovels and wheelbarrows and trowels, because they wouldn’t want modern construction equipment burning diesel fuel and emitting more CO2.
Trowels?
I certainly hope you aren’t entertaining ideas of using concrete or anything with CO2-spewing lime in it on this job?
I suggest large granite blocks quarried with a small rock hammer. (Or a herring)
They wouldn’t last 12 hours in any kind of boot camp.
My son just graduated from one last Friday. In fact, make that 2 hours.
Wait..These kids are admitting to voting for Biden?
Now that takes real courage.
And massive idiocy.
Forward!
There’s no diversity in that crowd. They’re all idiots (and most or nearly all are white, not that there’s anything wrong with that).
And very well fed; primed for revolution
Idiots, I agree, but the insurrection comparison is lame.
The heading includes the term ‘Satire’.
From the article: “Today we showed up to @JoeBiden’s doorstep with 500+ people and blockaded every entrance to the white house, demanding that he include a fully funded #CivilianClimateCorps in his infrastructure bill.”
Yes, AOC wants $10 billion for a new Civilian Climate Corps which will supposely amount to employing one million people as climate activists.
Then, instead of having 500 protestors at the White House, they can have one million paid protestors at the White House.
They could also use these paid protestors to harrass Skeptics and politicians who don’t go along with their Human-caused Climate Change scam.
They should probably call this new Civilian Climate Corps the “Brownshirts”.
Bring them on! Our grandfathers taught us how to deal with them.
I’m pretty sure all of them are currently being paid. It’s just that at present it’s Soro’s and Bloomberg’s money that is paying them. They want to be professional protestors and get a government paycheck.
Don’t forget paid-to-post shills, as this very thread aptly demonstrates.
Yes, no doubt…
Why do these people want to KILL every living thing on the Earth? Or do they not know what photosynthesis is?
You can bet your bottom dollar these crybabies do not know what “climate optimum” is. WUWT should be emphasizing that.
They subscribe to a nominally “secular” weird and peculiar religion. A Green blight, yes. Some, Select human lives, yes. Wicked solutions, to purportedly hard problems, of course.
A fully funded #CivilianClimateClowns ?
But already legions of such jerks are funded.
From the article: “Meet with the People Who Elected You.”
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Biden has already met with Dominion execs; the people who elected him.
We don’t know if Joey was elected or was it voter fraud and election stealing? Joey needs 1000 of his illegal aliens to visit him at the Black House. Joey and his band of criminals need their own country – it is called Cuba.
Or Venezuela.
Biden’s administration is diverse and includes hires and appointments from all voting machine companies.
Do those clowns actually believe that they represent every person who voted for Biden?
The pictures look like they blocked the entrances to “a” white (grey) house, but not “the” White House.
They blocked the guard shacks at the entrances to the White House grounds.
If it is legal to kill a woman for walking through a door why are none of these clowns bleeding out on the pavement? It is legal according to Biden Admin.
Just to be fair and objective, it appears that she climbed on a barrier where the glass above had been broken.
However, the use of deadly force is only legally sanctioned when a life is threatened. I don’t think that a single unarmed woman meets that test. Yet, no public investigation has taken place. So much for a ‘transparent’ administration!
I know what you’re talking abou Clyde, but haven’t been following closely. Surely her family have a strong (unassailable) civil case.
The video of the event is quite bizarre and disturbing, if you haven’t seen it yet.
Yes, it is bizarre and disturbing. It also shows recklessness on the part of the officer who shot her. There were policemen around her, and other protestors. It was not a clean, center-of-mass shot. It almost missed her! If it had, it is difficult to tell if someone else might have been injured by the errant bullet. It was irresponsible, and even if legally justified (unlikely!), it might have resulted in someone else being killed. That officer should be reprimanded for reckless and irresponsible discharge of a firearm, at the very least.
Her family is having to sue the government to find out who shot Ashli.
This is what authoritarianism looks like.
And CP still won’t charge or name the person who broke that and entered. People who came after are being charged. Whole lot of GS employees getting immunity for their roll in all this and many others are quietly being removed from any investigation.
In the end the Biden Admin has ruled it legal after the release of results from investigation of Jan 6 by Senate and House investigators. And now we get Nanee Pelosi’s dog&pony show for the summer.
Are you talking about Ashli Babbitt? She was standing in front of a group of people who WERE hammering and breaking glass at the Capitol Building. Videos show a very nervous shooter bracing himself before firing.
I first saw that the day it happened. I was struck by her falling like a rock, just like in Hollywood. I had thought real shooting victims were mobile a little while before they died.
You have not seen the video I saw days or weeks later, about how Hollywood fakes such scenes with fake blood packets, etc. They re-ran that video several times, with arrows showing where fake blood assists might have been used. Then came the total reveal–“Ashli Babbitt” was removed from the scene on a gurney HEAD DOWN. Real actual EMTs would be incapable of such a deadly mistake. “Ashli” was an actress and is still alive. I checked Duck Duck Go for death and funeral information. There is an autopsy report with cause of death. But Ashli was not buried–she was cremated, ashes scattered. How convenient.
Real people do get cremated, but without a corpse, I say Ashli is a stage name and the actress is still alive.
Silly article. A bunch of rich white kids with time on their hands. Relating it to the Jan. 6th invasion of the capitol is way off. Make a good argument instead of a political one. If someone can’t see the difference between this and the insurrection there is no hope of convincing anyone that AGW is exaggerated.
There was no insurrection on January 6th. There was just a mostly peaceful protest against the theft of an election and no protestor was armed.
Sure. Whatever you say.
How many sockpuppets are you currently running?
Using the standard of the MSM, as displayed during the previous Summer, a “mostly peaceful protest” seems a quite appropriate description.
Not really appropriate, not enough buildings on fire on 1/6
Yes, another handmade tale. There was no effort to control, let alone take over, the official business and proceedings of the government. Other than the murder of one unarmed woman, Ashli Babbitt, and the actions of several official and leftist agitators, it was a mostly peaceful assembly.
Not a single plastic cable tie or viking helmet in that bunch.
I believe you are incorrect in asserting that the 6 Jan 2021 event was an insurrection. It was not, no matter how many times the world’s marxists wish to proclaim it so. An insurrection is an armed attempt to overthrow a duly elected government. Firstly, Biden’s administration cannot truthfully be called duly elected, what with the valid, and as yet, unanswered questions surrounding its legitimacy. But the main point is that there were no weapons in the mostly peaceful protest at the U.S. Capitol on 6 Jan. Of course, the riots and murders committed by the marxists in U.S, cities leading up to the election were obvious attempts to sow unrest, and part of the overall effort to keep Trump from being reelected. How is that violence not deemed part of an insurrection, then? These activities were quite obviously part of the insurrection against conservatism and to install marxists in the U.S. government. So, in answer to your assertion that there is a difference in this climate “protest” and the 6 Jan protest, how many people does it take to make an insurrection? One? Three? 20,000? The “exaggerated AGW,” as you put it, has to be eviscerated using all avenues and weapons, just as the marxists espousing “C”AGW are using all the weapons available to them…especially politics.
Define weapon.
Stuff that Antifa & BLM troops carry – molotovs, guns, knives, frozen water bottle projectiles, etc etc
Generally speaking, I define a weapon as guns. They could of course be knives, but they would be little match for those with guns. I do not consider bear spray or mace as anything other than defensive weapons. Defensive weaponry should be treated differently than potential offensive weaponry in a protest. The patriotic protesters at the Capitol on 6 Jan were almost completely UNarmed except for a smattering of defensive weaponry. Why is there still no explanation as to why an UNarmed person was shot and killed by our government? The shame is all on the government, now run by marxists.
I do agree with Hornblower, if I sense his or her sentiment correctly, that if those who believe there is a climate crisis are to be shown to be incorrect, and if our world is to be freed from the grip of this faux crisis and by extension marxism, real and actual science needs to come to the fore. With a marxist-controlled science hierarchy, though, this will be nigh impossible. That is why all tools in the tool bag are necessary.
So, Christopher Paino, I will turn the question back to you, and ask you to define “weapon.”
A weapon is anything that can be used to harm or threaten to harm someone. It can be a broken beer bottle or the jawbone of an ass.
An effective weapon is one that can be expected to match the weapons of those with whom there might be conflict. Thus, firearms are the only effective weapon against police who have firearms. There is no documented instance of any of the protesters involved in the protest in January having been carrying a firearm. What reasonable person would call an activity insurrection when the protestors were not in a position to effectively counter security with firearms? It is a deliberate misuse of words similar to “ocean acidification” and “anthropogenic global heating.” There is a pattern here, and it is disingenuous!
Shoulda stopped with your first paragraph.
Why is that? His second paragraph was even better, and completely logical.
You just answered your own question. Trolls like hime don’t do logical.
A weapon is a double-edged scalpel.
That said, apparently, there were a few people with concealed carries. Their civil rights were violated by congress, still in progress, but they never wielded their arms to abort or otherwise harm anyone. Still, the handmade tales persist, spread by JournoLists,and anti-civil right activists, who are not coincidentally also transhumanists (e.g. Pro-Choice). A double-edged scalpel, indeed.
The demonstrations in Washington on Jan. 6 were “mostly peaceful.” An insurrection is what has been happening in Portland for the last year.
What about burning down Minneapolis and Chicago?
That’s just recreation.
Don’t you be oppressin‘ me!
Oh come on man! There was no insurrection. Period! No one attempted to overthrow the government or harm or take hostage an elected official. And NO ONE has even been formally charged with sedition.
If they had Biden would have unleashed the F-15s dropping nucs after the fact to eliminate the threat. So all you leftist can get rid of your rubber sheets for now and sleep well at night because old Joe is on the job and he’ll protect you from us nasty nation threatening conservatives. But I would suggest you start learning Chinese, preferably Mandarin.
I have read claims that during the Revolutionary War, probably only about 10% of the populace was actively involved.
Would Biden ‘nuke’ a large city to neutralize 10% of the inhabitants? Or authorize F-15s to strafe the streets and drop napalm? If so, then he really is farther along the path of dementia than even his critics suppose.
I think what Biden was saying applied to the Second Amendment and gun ownership.
He was making fun of the thought that if people own guns they can use them to defend themselves against a totalitarian government, and Biden was saying “The People” would need F-15’s and nuclear weapons to fight off a totalitarian government, thus scoffing at the idea of private gun ownership.
I’m surprised he didn’t whisper these comments.
Biden has started to occasionally whisper his comments in order to emphasize what he is saying. At least, he thinks he is emphasizing what he is saying.
What he is really doing is showing his innate arrogance. He’s getting comfortable in his job and likes being called sir, and is now convinced he is the smartest guy in the room. So when Joe whispers, people listen, Joe thinks. Yeah, we listen, and are appalled at what we hear from you. You don’t look like the smartest guy in the room from here.
What Biden fails to understand is that those planes have to be serviced, re-fueled, and armed. Even while on a fenced airbase, the mechanics and pilots are in danger from snipers. Fuel and ammunition has to be delivered to air bases. IEDs made from camel urine have been the bane of our forces in the Middle-East.
I’m reminded of a story I once heard. During the Korean War, Turkish night fighters would slip into the North Korean barracks at night and slit the throats of every other soldier. In the morning, when they woke up, they would discover the the guys on either side of them were dead. It played Hell with morale, and nobody wanted to go to sleep. Thus, they were often working with sleep deprivation. Nobody in their right mind goes toe-to-toe with a superior force. They exploit weaknesses in the enemy, and resort to unconventional warfare.
Something that the likes of Biden doesn’t realize is that after the storming of the Bastille, it wasn’t long before the peasants were as well-armed as the royal guards and soldiers, but at a much greater loss of life than necessary. Had the king not felt so arrogant because the common citizen was unarmed, he would have reigned in a more benevolent manner. The purpose of the Second Amendment is to remind those at the top that there is an effective counter to brute force. I’ve long suspected that the real reason that Democrats have been such strong supporters of gun control is that they are indeed afraid of an armed revolution if they push too far.
Unless freedom of movement is suspended, F-35s have a distinct vulnerability. Yet, a shallow thinker is Commander in Chief.
“I’m reminded of a story I once heard.”
Sounds like the Gurkas in Italy during WWII.
Those Turkish troops during the Korean war made a good name for themselves.
All the centers of civilian power have well defined addresses and aren’t built in any way that are compatible with military defense. That includes the FBI and NSA. Also Google and Facebook. (I could get ugly for those in Big Tech who know how their systems work and can access personal data.)
Also, how many F-15 are combat ready, per thousand of insurrectionists? (Assuming a plane with tens of bombs and hundreds of ammo can somehow control one thousand insurrectionists.)
And what happens next? An insurrection targeted at the political power would turn against the military. No military personnel would be safe, ever, anywhere. Not even his home. That would mean high level witness protection program for anyone ever in the military, unless part of the insurrection. But if any part of the active military takes part into, the huge undefended military targets are toast. Say goodbye to the Pentagon!
Biden may think an insurrection is Waco+ but it’s Irak+ and not even with Green Zone was a totally safe haven. Instead US would be Irak with no safe haven except possibly NORAD (which might need to take a neutral stance like Switzerland).
The US military (like many others) has a hard time defending the very few assets it has parked in other countries (USS Cole bombing, attentat du Drakkar). How do you defend all your assets all the time against these kind of threats?
(Note that I don’t mention the weapon industry at all as I don’t believe the army can spend its stockpile before being overrun.)
You liken it to Iraq but I think it would be more like Russia or U.S. in Afghanistan.
The people calling what happened an “insurrection” have absolutely NO concept of history.
“That is why we need a fully funded Civilian Climate Corps to put over 1.5 million Americans to work in good paying union jobs…”
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I don’t know about the rest of the country, but here in Wisconsin companies are begging for workers and are offering bonuses in the thousands of $$ for new hires.
Where exactly do these brilliant lightbulbs in the Sunrise Movement expect to get 1.5 million workers for their Civilian Climate Corps if this worker shortage is nationwide??
Most of those arrested in the photo appear to be young people. I admit to doing stupid thing when I was young, but I never got arrested for anything….especially at the White House.
CD, in Wisconsin, employers are offering good pay just to get people to show up and work.
In contrast, the Sunrise Movement wants 1.5 million people to show up… maybe, occasionally… and get great pay. And work is optional when they show up for their CCC jobs..
…put over 1.5 million Americans to work in good paying union jobs…
All executive directors.
Isn’t the ask for this $10 billion?
$10 billion to employ 1.5 million people = $6666 per person. There’s your “good paying job”
The Sunshiney Hineys need to “Wake up, grow up, and shut up”!
https://www.facebook.com/paul.alexander.7355079/posts/4054095434679783
I’m sure that was a good one, Bruce, but I have never had an account with Give-Us-All-Your-Personal-Data-So-We-Can-Sell-It.com
Actually, you can open an account without giving them any of your data. Allows you to see stuff.
Not so much as an electronic handshake with The Great Tech Satan, Bruce.
Paranoia’s fun, huh?
Not paranoia. Starve the Beast. No clicks, no money.
The U.S. NSA is the one where paranoia kicks in.
American Republicans are generally happy and undemonstrative. They rarely get riled up enough to protest en masse and tend to do it quietly then clean up after themselves. Law and order is important to them because they realize that it’s the bedrock of civilized society. Leftists, modern Democrats, and anarchists (Antifa) on the other hand, demonstrating the immoderacy that is one of their common characteristics, will easily abandon civility and tear down civilization to make themselves heard.
So when a right-wing protest gets out of control, which is extremely rare, it looks like an insurrection to them. But when a left-wing protest evolves into rioting and looting, it’s just another “mostly peaceful” protest. They expect excessive behavior from leftists, because, well, that’s just the way they are.
Seriously? Proud boys, militias, people protesting about federal lands, driving cars into demos, the tea party, storming the capitol
Antifa fascists mobbed a single car, assaulted the vehicle, threatened the driver, and prevented its exit. On other occasions, Some, Select [Black] Lives Matter performed the same function, assaulting officers, burning vehicles, and, following the KKK model, invaded neighborhoods to intimidate families. Who can forget the leftist insurrection on President Trump’s birthday/inauguration day and the Democrat congressman and journolists who led insurrections over more than16 trimesters, still in progress.
“Antifa fascists mobbed a single car, assaulted the vehicle, threatened the driver”
Don’t do that in Oklahoma. A driver in Oklahoma who is surrounded by a mob and fears for his life can drive right through the crowd legally if that is what he has to do to escape the situation.
The law was put in place just for that purpose after watching various motorists get assaulted during the Democrat riots over the last 18 months.
So don’t come around here blocking traffic, if you know what’s good for you.
reminder, just click the minus sign and don’t engage the turd
The incident at a recent Florida PRIDE rally, that most of the media seized on as an act of domestic terrorism turned out to have been caused by one of the rally goers. Not a right wing outsider as griff and the rest of the sycophant’s were told to believe.
As compared to tens of billions of dollars of damage to private and public property, numerous assaults and hundreds of riots over just one year (2020-2021) by Antifa and Black Lives Matter in Minneapolis, Portland, Baltimore, and other places. You’re on the losing side of that argument griff. Add up the cost and compare. Right-wing riots are rare, minor, and small. Left-wing riots are big, disruptive, and extremely costly.
And Tea Party rallies? Seriously? Unlike left-wing (non-violent) protests that leave massive amounts of trash for others to clean up, Tea Party protesters clean up after themselves. Once again, defining differences between leftists and civilized people. The leftists are slobs and have very little sense of civic responsibility (if any).
stinkerp,
you gotta remember that those “mostly peaceful demonstrations” were JUSTIFIED (because they fit the right political profile) so they’re perfectly fine.
You couldn’t fill a football stadium with Proud Boys and other radical groups, and none of them are accepted as part of the Republican Party. They are a non-factor except in the Propaganda Wars.
Best way ever to deal with blockading “protesters”:
All these climate activists claim to be “of the people”, but when they do their thing, the people frequently throw stuff at them.
Meet The New Boss.
Our founders started an insurrection to increase freedom and liberty. Now our leftist youths want an insurrection to reduce our freedom and liberty. They want all of us to become serfs or subjects to the all knowing, all powerful central government.
These people need a serious amount of mental health help.
“No doubt Congress will shortly announce an insurrection probe, into the threat posed to The Republic by radical Democrat supporters who describe themselves as climate revolutionaries.”
I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for that one.
You think there was some tongue-in-cheek in this post? Maybe?
If the CCC unionistas go on strike how would anyone know? Other than the money saved obviously.
Don’t tell these “Sunrise” protesters, but they’re going to the wrong place. President Biden (or any President) can’t just raid the Treasury or the Federal Reserve to fund something with government money. Any project to be funded with government money must be voted by both houses of Congress, which (under current rules) requires the votes of 60 Senators. Why aren’t they protesting the Democrat Senators who want to keep the filibuster?
Of course, their voters in West Virginia (Joe Manchin) and Arizona (Kyrsten Sinema) don’t necessarily support a Civilian Climate Corps. Why would the coal miners in West Virginia want to lose their jobs, or the people in Phoenix want to cut off the power to their air conditioners in the sweltering heat?
This is somewhat off topic but it turns out the extreme event that many people fear is human extinction due to CO2 driven climate change. I find this amazing, irrational and a bit scary.
See my Unfounded fear of human extinction drives climate hysteria at
https://www.cfact.org/2021/06/29/unfounded-fear-of-extinction-drives-climate-hysteria/.
Why? It is pounded into peoples’ skulls night and day from everywhere, accepted as TRVTH without question.
While of course all criminal action should be punished and I believe there was some here , there is a vast difference in scales:
How many police officers were hurt or killed?
Was the capitol stormed by an organized force?
How about a comparison of bombs and weapons and scale of the upraising force?
This should not be tolerated, but is more than an order of magnitude smaller than the events on Jan 6 and thus harmless. But I agree that law enforcement should not tolerate this and setting an example early might save trouble later on!
Sarcasm? This is yet another handmade tale. The dozens of unarmed people on Jan 6 were invited inside the capital and the majority of them followed official direction. An unarmed woman was murdered, while surrounded by capital officers, presumably for a property violation. No police officers were harmed or aborted by events or actions of the day. There was no effort to disrupt, let alone control, official functions or proceedings of the day.
I am not sure what you are saying,
please tell me what exactly YOU are seeing on this videos:
https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/capitol-violence
(beware the videos are violent and inhuman, you see Trump supporters behaving like mad animals)
There are 100s of hours of video material documenting exactly what happened and Brian Sicknick was killed by the partially illegal riots on Jan 6 storming the capitol, there is no basis to deny this.
Beware the source.
You mean the FBI uplinking videos from body cams of Capitol police officers?
That is about as trustworthy as it gets.
Do you know a better source, please let me know.
Consider the possibility that your sources at not on that level.
I agree that there are vast scales of difference, but the arrow is pointing in the opposite direction than you want to believe.
How many police officers were hurt or k*lled.
Jan 6: none
Elsewhere: Hundreds
Was the capital stormed by an organized force: No
Were other riots around the country clearly organized before hand: Yes
Bombs and weapons
Jan 6: None
Elsewhere: thousands
Scale
Jan 6: Maybe a hundred or so
Elsewhere: Thousands
“Fully Fund the Civilian Climate Corps.” And there they are, demanding some of that sweet climate money numbering in the trillions of dollars, the very heart of the climate crisis fear mongers.
“No doubt Congress will shortly announce an insurrection probe, into the threat posed to The Republic by radical Democrat supporters who describe themselves as climate revolutionaries.”
Don’t hold your hand over your ass, you may never tell time again.
PS, I know it’s sarcasm
LOL 🙂
Civilian Climate Corps? That would be about as sane as a Civilian Continental Drift Corps.
Good thing Soros hasn’t managed to get hold of any F15s or those in the White House may have REALLY been in trouble.
Of course they want money because if there wasn’t a possibility of some sort of government handout, these clowns wouldn’t be there in the first place. That’s the reason they have a lot in common with the supporters of the Green Climate Fund.
National Guard. White House. NOW (pun intended). Terrorist list, too, per chairman joint chiefs, woke and [morally] broke?
Trust can be betrayed. Trust is betrayed, the betrayed found the right doorstep it seems!
These insurrectionists are LAME!
No cops killed, no feces smeared on the wall of the House of Climate Inaction, no demands to hang Nancy Pelosi??
These people are actually the hired goons of the Davos crowd, who will “reimagine” your society in ways that effectively installs themselves as a ruling class in a neo feudal society.
That scenario already exists
So is this climate corps just another left wing paramilitary group?
If protesters want to see Biden they need to go to GA white house at Tyler Perry’s compound. Where jets can use No Fly Zone. Reference Jen’s comment about jet interrupting her press conference.
So easy to spend OPM. I like OPM. Who doesn’t? The trap comes from borrowing what you can’t pay back, both at the personal level and the national government level, like Argentina and maybe the USA soon to come.