Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
I keep reading how wind and solar are finally cheaper than fossil fuels … and every time I’ve read it, my urban legend detector rings like crazy.
It rings in part because the market is very efficient at replacing energy sources based on their cost. Here, for example, is the story of kerosene, emphasis mine:
When a clean-burning kerosene lamp invented by Michael Dietz appeared on the market in 1857, its effect on the whaling industry was immediate. Kerosene, known in those days at “Coal Oil”, was easy to produce, cheap, smelled better than animal-based fuels when burned, and did not spoil on the shelf as whale oil did. The public abandoned whale oil lamps almost overnight. By 1860, at least 30 kerosene plants were in production in the United States, and whale oil was ultimately driven off the market. When sperm oil dropped to 40 cents a gallon in 1895, due to lack of demand, refined petroleum, which was very much in demand, sold for less than 7 cents a gallon. …
SOURCE
My question was, if wind and solar are so cheap, why are they not replacing traditional sources overnight?
So I decided to look into the question. The main number used to judge how expensive an energy source might be is called the “LCOE”, the Levelized Cost Of Energy. It takes into account all of the costs for new power plants—capital costs, overhead and maintenance costs, fuel costs, financing costs, the whole gamut of expenses for that power source. Well … except for one cost, but we’ll come to that later.
Here is the latest information on the LCOE for various energy sources, from the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) 2021 report entitled Levelized Costs of New Generation Resources.

Figure 1. US IEA levelized costs of electricity, 2021.
And yes, that clearly says that onshore wind and standalone solar are cheaper than any other source of energy.
I looked at that, and my urban legend detector started flashing red and the needle pegged out … why?
Because of the numbers in the first column, the “capacity factor”. The capacity factor for an electricity generation system is what percentage of the “nameplate” generation it actually produces. For example, if the nameplate on a windmill says it will generate 16 gigawatt-hours (GWh, or 109 watt-hours) per year if it ran 24/7/365, and due to the intermittent nature of wind it only actually generates a quarter of that, then its “capacity factor” would be 25%.
I looked at the claimed capacity factors for wind and solar, which according to the US EIA folks are 40%+ and 30% respectively, and I thought “No way. Not possible.”
Now, part of the error in the solar capacity factor is explained by footnote 4, viz:
4Technology is assumed to be photovoltaic (PV) with single-axis tracking. The solar hybrid system is a single-axis PV system coupled with a four-hour battery storage system.
Why is that a problem? Well, because tracking systems need to move each individual solar panel at a steady rate during the day so the panels always face the sun. Then, at the end of the day, they rotate the panel back to its starting position. Unlike fixed systems, these require a complex installation of motors, time sensors, bearings, levers, and the like to rotate the panels.
And because such mechanical “single-axis tracking” systems are expensive to install, expensive to operate, expensive to maintain, and subject to damage from weather, it is very rare for a grid-scale solar farm to use such systems. Almost without exception, they are fixed-angle systems with the panels mounted securely to a (theoretically) wind-proof frame like those at the Topaz Lake Solar Farm shown below.

Figure 2. Solar panel fixed mounts, Topaz Lake Solar Farm, one of the world’s largest.
If you imagine the necessary motors, gears, levers, and other mechanisms required for a single-axis tracking system to be able to rotate each and every one of those nine million! solar panels to follow the sun throughout the day, you’ll understand why fixed solar panels are the norm for grid-scale installations.
In any case, I thought I’d find the real data on this question of capacity factors. The amazing source, Our World In Data, has all of the information needed. Here is the current average of all of the world’s real-world wind and solar installations in the most recent year for which we have data, 2019.

Figure 3. Actual and theoretical (nameplate) generation, 2019 data.
As you can see, the US IEA is way off in fantasyland about the capacity factors of wind and solar. In both cases, they are claiming far larger capacity factors than we have out here in the real world.
Now, in Figure 1, they claimed levelized costs as follows, in US cents per kilowatt-hour:
- Combined-cycle gas — 3.45¢ per kWh
- Solar — 2.90¢ per kWh
- Onshore Wind — 3.15¢ per kWh
That’s the basis for the claims that renewables are now the cheapest sources of electricity. However, given the actual capacity factors, in reality these costs are:
- Combined-cycle gas — 3.45¢ per kWh
- Solar — 6.21¢ per kWh
- Onshore Wind — 4.97¢ per kWh
“Cheapest sources”? No way.
And as for offshore wind, they’re just as far off. They claim 11.5¢ per kWh, but the new Block Island offshore wind farm is charging the utility, not the customer but the utility, 24.4¢ per kWh …
And finally, there is a huge elephant in the US EIA room … backup power. This is the missing cost I mentioned above.
If you add a gigawatt of unreliable intermittent renewable wind or solar energy to a system, you also have to add an additional gigawatt of some kind of reliable dispatchable energy, where “dispatchable” means you can turn it up or down at will to replace renewables when there is no wind or sun. The US EIA levelized cost document linked above does mention the need for backup … but it doesn’t even touch the cost of backup. All it says is:
Because load must be continuously balanced generating units with the capability to vary output to follow demand (dispatchable technologies) generally have more value to a system than less flexible units (nondispatchable technologies) that use intermittent resources to operate. The LCOE values for dispatchable and non-dispatchable technologies are listed separately in the following tables because comparing them must be done carefully.
They say that dispatchable technologies have “more value to a system” … but they fail to mention that “more value” translates into higher real-world costs for non-dispatchable renewable technologies.
How much higher? Well … they don’t say. But you can be sure that it won’t be free. At a bare minimum, it will be the capital cost of the dispatchable backup generator plus some portion of the other fixed, variable, and transmission costs … and that means that because of the costs of the needed backup generators, there is very little chance that solar and wind will ever be competitive with other methods.
TL;DR Version: Neither wind nor solar are ready for prime-time, and due to their need for backup power, they may never be ready.
Here on the hill above the ocean, my gorgeous ex-fiancee and I are preparing to visit relatives in northern Florida. We’ll be on the road starting Tuesday for about three weeks, leaving our daughter and son-in-law here in the house to enjoy the sun. If you live in the northern Floridian part of the planet and would like to meet up, drop me a message on the open thread on my blog. Just include in the name of your town, no need to put in your phone or email. I’ll email you if we end up going there. No guarantees, but it’s always fun to talk to WUWT readers in person. I’ll likely be posting periodic updates on our trip on my blog, Skating Under The Ice, for those who are interested.
My very best to everyone,
w.
And just a little more:
They’re unsightly.
Wind turbines kill birds, eagles, and bats.
They need diesel generators to keep them spinning when wind dies.
Solar requires lithium batteries that in production pollute with actually toxic materials. Not like that wonderful CO2 that they refer to as a “pollutant”.
Yes Willis, they are lying.
Here in southern AB it’s accepted as a very sunny and windy place.
And yet according to AESO the capacity factors are 20% solar and 33% wind.
Pathetic
We commissioned a new wind farm taking us to 1988mw of wind capacity
Currently running at 131, was 15mw yesterday, less than 1%, and will likely average less than 5% over the next week under the “heat dome”, the new $100 dollar phrase for a summer high pressure, no wind for a week just like the winter high pressure in February, sorry, I meant polar vortex.
Hard to keep up with the new sales terms
http://ets.aeso.ca/ets_web/ip/Market/Reports/CSDReportServlet
Capacity factor 30-35% and don’t the doomsters love their averages….
Wind Energy in Australia | May 2021 | Aneroid
It’s like saying bicycles have a better capacity factor than urban cars comparing average speeds of the Tour de France with Sydney peak hour and ipso facto we should all be pedalling treadleys for Gaia.
The big problem with “average power”, is that people don’t consume average power. They consume the power that’s available at that instant. If the power being produced at that instant, is less than the amount of power being demanded, your grid collapses.
The market for energy
https://tambonthongchai.com/2021/02/17/the-market-for-energy/
Neither wind nor solar are ready for prime-time, and due to their need for backup power, they may never be ready.
But that’s nonsense, because I can name several countries where they provide a third to a half of all electricity and rising and the back up issue doesn’t exist.
Griff,
Rather than naming a few countries from obscure reports, please explain how you visited these several countries and describe how they live with 1/3 to 1/2 intermittent power.
Go on then, name them
griff won’t, because his claims have been refuted time and again. HE’s hoping that by remaining vague, nobody will challenge his claims.
Explain how they provide power at night and when there is no wind.
Once again griff lies by omission. He claims that these countries don’t have backup, but they do.
They are connected to other grids that have lot lower renewable penetration, such as France and Poland. These other countries provide the needed power for those times when renewables just can’t cut it.
When renewables plus fossil fuel are producing more power than the country needs, they end up paying other countries to take their excess. When the renewables crap out, they pay through the nose to buy what they can on the spot market.
Only a liberal would think that is a good idea.
Wind and solar without backup??
What staggers me Willis is how the true costs, which have been understood for some considerable time, never appear to impact the debate. The AGW fanatics have the politicians in their pocket, or so it seems, yet the counter to the deceit the greens practice is widely available.
The true costs are hidden, so most citizens don’t know about them.
On the other hand, those who are getting rich of these scams keep the money flowing to the politicians so that the politicians will keep the money flowing to the scammers.
Economists have a term for this, something like; diffuse costs, concentrated benefits. It’s a huge problem whenever government is used to collect small payments from millions, while passing the benefits to only a few.
Yeah – there’s a lot of money in this…it makes me wonder what the real game is.
As you point out, they’re not cheap compared to fossil fuel alternatives. And even if we wanted to change, they’re not “plentiful” either.
In this case it was possible to change to the new energy source overnight. Crude oil was plentiful and easy to obtain. There was a strong financial incentive to do so. Solar and Wind aren’t like that at all.
So my question to you is how long do you think it would take us to move from fossil fuels to another energy source?
If someone were to develop a type of energy that could generate electricity reliably and cheaply, the changeover time would be the length of time it took to certify and build sufficient plants.
The certification part would probably be the longest, as those who were invested in existing technologies would use every legal and political trick in the book to block the new technology.
For example, nuclear power.
People have been trying to do that for decades and with publicly funded financial incentives too. I think it’s fair to say there are no simple solutions likely to be forthcoming and implementing large scale nuclear energy isn’t going to start soon either.
So you’ve effectively said never.
I disagree, nuclear fission isn’t significantly cheaper than fossil fuels and was as much about weapons creation as it was about power in the early days. Now it has an image problem. Fusion is better, but the ‘N’ word gives it the same image problem. They will sort it eventually and that essentially gives you unlimited capacity for energy, at presumably ever decreasing cost.
Society really needs a fuel as we want everything to work with the flick of a button and wires and charging are a real drag.
We’ll have fossil for another 50 years I reckon.
Fusion is, in principle, the ultimate energy source but its looking incredibly difficult. I think we’re a very long way from commercial applications.
We’ll have fossil fuels for as long as it takes. The problem is that its going to take a very long time when the drivers are seen by many as uneconomical “do good” rather than a necessary transition we need to be making.
I think that if society keeps pushing renewables and storage then the transition will be manageable and relatively painless and will happen over decades to come. I just hope people see the folly in technologies like CCS.
Leaving the transition to market forces could be disastrous to society and in particular the poor. When demand of energy outstrips supply, (poor) people die and no amount of government intervention can save them.
What MarkW said!
I would not be surprised if climate politics and the emerging climate command economy drive us back to whale 🐋 oil again. There is no limit to the hypocrisy and duplicity of the climate hustle.
Willis point about backup of wind-solar as a cost, is correct and inescapable.
What is the deliverable?
That’s always a good place to start in assessing business costs.
In power grids the deliverable is what it always has been – load following power.
Coal, gas and to some (increasing) extent nuclear can all deliver that.
That is how their costs are defined.
Wind-solar are intermittent and the opposite of load-following.
They are load-independent and often anti-correlated (no wind and little sun when coldest.)
So the backup gas power (for instance) IN ITS ENTIRETY must be added as a cost of wind-solar.
We’re talking about the deliverable, remember?
So asserting wind-solar can be cheaper than (for instance) gas is like arguing that A can be less than A+B. (All are positive of course.)
WTH is “levelized variable cost”? And nuclear = “NB”? Not much of a study.
Regarding “If you add a gigawatt of unreliable intermittent renewable wind or solar energy to a system, you also have to add an additional gigawatt of some kind of reliable dispatchable energy”: How much of this backup needs to be new plants, and how much can be from merely not demolishing existing fossil fuel and nuclear plants as wind and solar plants come online?
The key to intermittent renewable energy replacing dispatchable generators will be storage. It needs to be cheaper and not lose efficiency over time.
Kerosene, which (according to Willis’ article) displaced whale oil back in 1857, is still irreplaceable in today’s economy. Although it is usually distilled from petroleum now instead of coal, its properties make it the ideal fuel for jet engines for commercial aviation.
Gasoline can be used in reciprocating engines for small planes, but it is too volatile for use in jet engines. Diesel fuel would freeze at the temperatures (< -40 C) encountered at the altitudes at which jets fly, but kerosene remains liquid and not too viscous when cold, and is not too volatile when warm. Straight-run kerosene usually contains less sulfur than straight-run diesel fuel, so that less hydrogen is needed to desulfurize it than diesel fuel.
Can anyone think of a non-fossil-fuel alternative for powering an airplane? Any wind-powered glider needs a powered plane to get it off the ground. Someone developed a solar-powered propeller plane with a huge wingspan with a top airspeed of 12 mph–good luck with that in a headwind!
A plane powered by an electric motor would either have a very short flight range between recharges, or require such heavy batteries that it could never get off the ground. Even nuclear reactors wouldn’t work, due to the weight of the lead radiation shield.
So if we want to fly over continents or oceans at over 500 mph, we still have to rely on a fuel first developed over 160 years ago, since we haven’t found a better one yet!
Solar or nuclear powered sky hooks and gliders! 🙂
You did ask…
According to the EIA the cost to build offshore wind is $6000/kWh . For nat gas around $1000/kWh . Not included in the cost as far as I can tell is the cost to build ships which are capable of installing and maintaining 1000 foot tall towers with 350 foot blades . And the port facilities to handle ships , construction and maintenance . But I think these are regarded as bonuses for creating jobs . Which is true there will be a lot of money spent on these jobs , but they will have to be paid for by someone . I believe because of the jones act the ships will need to be built in America , though they may be planning on using foreign ships and crews in which case the money won’t go to Americans . And then there are the costs for decommissioning the turbines in 20 or 25 years . Despite what seems like these enormous costs mayflower wind off Massachusetts is Promising consumers that they will pay considerably less than 10 cents/kWh . ! I believe the true cost will all be paid for by huge federal subsidies , though it is impossible to tell who will pay the real cost from reading their website , but they seem quite happy with the money they are being guaranteed .They give lots of numbers about job creation and economic benefits and nothing about the actual cost to produce the electricity
Current price of electricity in Massachusetts is 22cents/ kWh