Reposted from the NoTricksZone
By P Gosselin on 23. June 2021
As wildly fluctuating, weather-dependent green energies come increasingly online, German grid operators and the German Federal Audit Office are warning the German government of power blackouts. But the government is ignoring the warnings and continues to insist everything is fine.
Grid operator 50Hertz, for example, warns of energy shortages as Germany continues to shut down its nuclear and coal power plants, which currently serve to provide crucial baseload power for the grid.
Germany’s Federal Ministry for Economic Affairs and Energy (BMWi) refuses to heed the warnings and demands of the Federal Audit Office and the country’s grid operators, insisting: “All our studies show that, on the whole, we have sufficient power for Germany.”
“Momentous misjudgement”
But experts are calling BMWi’s stance “a technical and momentous misjudgement when it comes to power supply security, as will become apparent over the next few years,” reports the online Ruhrkultour here.
The President of the Austrian Society for Crisis Prevention, Herbert Saurugg, an expert for blackout and crisis prevention, says “the consequences of a blackout are being underestimated”.
“In Austria alone, this would mean damages of more than 1 billion euros in the first 24 hours. However, the danger of a sudden, supra-regional and prolonged power, infrastructure and supply failure affecting large parts of Europe is real. Help from outside is not to be expected.” reports the online Ruhrkultour here.
Power shortage warnings are mounting, “no Plan B”
The risk of blackouts are rising due to the unstable supply of growing wind and solar energy. The online Avantour reports:
Warnings of a massive power shortage are mounting. Three nuclear power plants are to be shut down at the end of the year, as are coal-fired power plants. Wind turbines and photovoltaic systems only supply electricity when the wind blows and the sun shines. There is no plan B to which energy policy can fall back.”
Germany will lose 50 GW of stable power
Experts have calculated that the phase-out of nuclear energy and coal-fired power generation means Germany will lose more than 50 gigawatts (GW) of stable power production capacity. Supply stability must be given higher priority, experts say.
Warnings of “considerable consequences”
Citing business daily Handelsblatt, “the energy industry warns of considerable consequences if the issue of secured capacity is not taken seriously.”
For power grid expert Herbert Saurugg, “the danger of a blackout is getting closer and closer if the government does not act,” reports Avantour .
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Politicians have the remarkable ability to fail to see the blindingly obvious.
Germany and Texas (my home) are screwed.
Fewer BMW’s – mechanics weep.
An oft repeated meme joke:
A: What did Greens use for night light before candles? A: Electricity.
This is very, very GOOD news. If the blackouts occur in the next three years in Germany, that will put the brakes on our (USA) push to wind and solar.
A silly belief.
but they won’t. They haven’t happened since they launched Energiewende, despite constant prophecies they would in Watts etc. Homewood’s prediction that the German grid would fail last winter was so off that Snopes fact checked it as ‘fake news’
If they are all going to die from overheating soon, why worry about the power supply?
“on the whole, we have sufficient energy for Germany”. Right. That is what Texas thought also.
I wonder how many seconds there are in a (w)hole?
He’s talking about average power.
The problem is that people don’t consume average power, they consume the power that is available one second to the next. If the power they need right here, right now, isn’t available, the grid collapses.
Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of guys.
The president of Toyota recently revealed the “elephant in the room” regarding electric vehicles when he explained in a Wall Street Journal op-ed column that if every car and truck in Japan was an electric vehicle, they would need to use ALL of Japan’s electricity produced in one year to power the EVs and it would only last for six months! There is just not enough electrical power currently produced to power a complete switch to electric vehicles, let alone if we reduce output from coal and natural gas powered electric generating plants.
Greenies don’t understand Conservation of Energy.
“Greenies don’t understand Conservation of Energy.”
I was just told a few days ago that there is no such thing.
That’s why there is a plan for 20 minute neighbourhoods in the UK. Us Plebs wont be able to afford / run an EV and there will not be enough of them to go round for that very reason.
Basically this is a battle between the Engineers and the Magical Thinkers.
Before the SHTF
And the engineers will be correct because reality versus magical thinking never works in the real world.
listen to the AEMO (Australian Energy Market )
South Australia can be 100% renewable – just add interconnectors to equally unreliable Victoria and New South Wales (they in the process of shutting all there coal fired stations)
and hope Tasmania’s two interconnectors and hydro can balance power with South Australia’s BS elon musk 129MWh battery – note the small “h” it is important technically but the green liars dont understand
it is not continuous power you can use it any way you like but in is limited energy
the wheels are falling off our electrical generation billy carts (other people call them soap box carts) and the crash ain’t going to be pretty
whats worse all those idiots with electric cars are also F..d
shame that the hospitals wont have any power for you when you need them
As I have said before, generally, people do not differentiate between renewable electricity and conventional electricity and think that the former is equal to and can simply replace the latter.
The media does not mention the technical deficiencies of renewables and if there are any negative comments it will be about intermittency, (itself a real challenge and expensive to compensate for, batteries are mistakenly believed to be the answer for that) but not that a stable grid cannot have a large amount of uncontrollable renewable generation feeding into it. Thus, the perception will remain in most peoples mind.
Until this perception is altered, especially amongst politicians, the renewable snowball will keep on going until the inevitable and long loss of power.
Germany has essentially had their wind additions on hold since the end of 2017. They installed more wind that year then in the past four years combined. I’m looking for a few thousand mW of CCGT to be added 2023-2025 now that Nord Stream II will be up and running later this year.
Well that’s not true, if you look at offshore wind…
but here’s an assessment of what might happen with gas
The combination of less conventional power generation in the South and the (possible) delay in the construction of power lines that would deliver the much-needed wind power from the North has triggered calls for new gas-fired power stations to be used as a bridging technology. “There will be situations where we will need back-up from gas power plants,” Kapferer said. He said Germany would need some 40 GW of gas capacity in the medium to long-term (total peak load in Germany is currently at 80 GW; current gas capacity at 30 GW). The Federal Network Agency lists a total of 2.5 GW in new battery, pumped hydro and gas capacity to come online between 2021 and 2023.
The situation of gas plants in Germany is a difficult one. Existing gas power stations have long lain idle as they were outpriced by cheaper renewable, coal and nuclear electricity. A good example is the gas-fired plant at Irsching, once hailed as one of the most modern and efficient plants in the world and practically mothballed since before 2017. Only when the price for emissions under the European Emission Trading System (EU ETS) as well as the wholesale power price started rising in 2020 did some of these plants get back into the black.
This is still not enough reassurance for investors to think about building new plants, as critics of Germany’s Energy Only Market (EOM) have often stressed.
Well here’s a very detailed, warts and all discussion of ‘can Germany maintain supply security’.
Shutting down nuclear and coal – can Germany maintain supply security on renewables alone? | Clean Energy Wire
Not a simple issue. you can pick the good points or the bad points, but you can say the issue is out there in active discussion and they are working on the points raised.
This is an update on the critical north/south grid improvements
Pandemic slows German grid planning but central powerlines show progress | Clean Energy Wire
“The issue is out there in active discussion..”
An issue that they created by themselves.
The answer is simple and Bob Newhart said it best: “Just Stop It!”
A prolongued blackout would be the best time to stage a revolt. Communictions will be down, so no organised opposition. However, you should get your own logistics sorted well before it happens. Be prepared. You will find the morons who engineered the chaos in their offices hiding under their desks.
Depending on how prolonged, such a blackout could completely collapse a nation.
The damage (which includes humans and other animals physical harm) is not a bug. It’s a feature. These people promoting this “renewable energy” and not interested in preserving Germany’s (or any country’s) way of life or economy.
They’re part of the same movement that believes all governments that are capitalist orientated have and are doing nothing but harm and need to be stopped. And they’re getting the very people who will suffer to do it to themselves.
The people in power will not be harmed much for quite a while so they don’t really care. They’ll just invest in a gas run power plant for themselves and buy stock in all the boondoggle green energy companies that will be getting funding from the government.
No it’s going to be the lower to middle income folks who will have their lives lessened including their health care degraded and potentially turn fatal due to unexpected blackouts.
Bon apetit suckers.
“For power grid expert Herbert Saurugg, “the danger of a blackout is getting closer and closer if the government does not act,” reports Avantour .”
But it is this same government that is doing all the stupid renewable stuff and shutting down existing coal and nuclear! What, exactly, does Saurugg want the government to do?
Look at George Daddis’ post above, watch the video, and listen to what Bob is telling the government to do!
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Seriously? You are posting groundless anti islamic statements and nobody has called you on it?
Easy fix, bring on more gas, coal and nuclear electric generation capacity. Damned sight cheaper and more reliable than wind and solar. And much better for the environment.
We are constantly being assured by commentors around here that there won’t be any grid problems or blackouts, so this can’t possibly be true, right?
Suicide is not painless.
Just think what it will be like when @ur momisugly 85000,000 vehicles get plugged in every evening.,
You pay generators to dump on the grid so naturally you have to pay to clean up the dumping- U.S. Democrats launch bill allowing existing nuclear plants tax credit (msn.com)
That’s how Green GDP works.
The blackouts are a feature not a bug in their race to the good old days pre-industrial.
RT (untermenschen times) has a nice article about solar panels creating a mountain of trash that will negate any conceivable environmental gain from the highly disposable technology – and then some:
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/527472-solar-panels-create-more-waste/