I got to thinking about how science progresses. Science is a funny beast. It’s not a “thing”, it’s a process. The process works like this:
- One or more people make a falsifiable claim about how the physical world works. They support it with logic, math, computer code, examples, experience, experimental results, thought experiments, or other substantiating backup information.
- They make all of that information public, so others can replicate their work.
- Other people try to find things that are wrong with the original claim, including errors in the logic, math, computer code, examples, and the rest.
- If someone can show the original claim is wrong, that claim is falsified and rejected.
- If nobody can show the claim is wrong, then it is provisionally accepted as scientifically valid … but only provisionally, because at any time new information of any kind may show that the claim actually is wrong.
Note that there is two things that must be present for this process we call “science” to work. The first is total transparency. If the author of the claim refuses to provide the data, computer code, or any part of the supporting evidence, the claim cannot be either replicated or falsified and thus it is not a part of science.
The second necessary component is that the claim must be falsifiable. If I say “There is a Pastafarian God who controls the universe through his noodly appendages”, no one can falsify that statement … so it’s not a scientific claim.

Now, let me point out what doesn’t make any difference in this process. The following things do not matter at all in real scientific investigation:
- The nationality, sex, educational level, previous accomplishments, publications, age, credentials, shoe size, or hair color of the person making the claim. They mean nothing—the claim is either true or not, regardless of those meaningless side issues.
- The location where the claim is made. It is either true or not, regardless of whether it is published in a scientific journal, posted on the web, or written on an outhouse wall.
- The nationality, sex, educational level, previous accomplishments or publications, credentials, shoe size, or hair color of the person who has found problems with the claim.
- Peer review. The peer reviewers have a lifetime invested in their own work and beliefs, and if their worldview is overthrown by a new scientific paradigm, they may be out of work. As a result, these days peer review mostly functions as the gatekeeper of the consensus, preventing the publication of any claim that disagrees with the agreed theories. It is no guarantor of scientific validity. From the National Institutes of Health: “We have little evidence on the effectiveness of peer review, but we have considerable evidence on its defects. In addition to being poor at detecting gross defects and almost useless for detecting fraud it is slow, expensive, profligate of academic time, highly subjective, something of a lottery, prone to bias, and easily abused.”
- Personal attacks. Attacking the person instead of attacking the person’s ideas is called an “ad hominem” attack, from the Latin meaning “to the man”. The most common one in climate science is when someone calls their opponent a “denier”. This is a childish attempt to discredit the person rather than deal with what they are saying. My rule of thumb with these kinds of personal attacks is “When someone starts throwing mud, it’s a sure sign they’re out of real ammunition.”
- And finally, to get to the subject of this post, it doesn’t matter how many people believe the original claim. Consensus on the claim is meaningless. It makes no difference if every learned person in the world, backed by the Catholic Church, believes some idea is true—as Copernicus and Galileo proved, scientific validity is not determined by either consensus or a vote.
In fact, all scientific advances occur in the same manner. Someone questions the revealed wisdom. Someone doesn’t believe the agree-upon explanation. Someone doesn’t think the current theory is quite correct. Someone disagrees with the learned scientific societies, the consensus of experts, the accepted paradigm.
And in the process, new scientific ideas are brought to light and agreed upon … until such future time as they, in turn, may be overthrown.
So I thought I’d provide a few quotes from profound thinkers on this very question. Let me start with the polymath Michael Crichton, author, director, medical student, television producer, Emmy winner, and most interesting man.

I want to pause here and talk about this notion of consensus, and the rise of what has been called consensus science. I regard consensus science as an extremely pernicious development that ought to be stopped cold in its tracks. Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is already settled. Whenever you hear the consensus of scientists agrees on something or other, reach for your wallet, because you’re being had. — Michael Crichton
Next, gotta have a few quotes from the OG of scientific breakthroughs, Big Al, noted “Isaac Newton Denier”:

Blind belief in authority is the greatest enemy of the truth. — Albert Einstein
To punish me for my contempt of authority, Fate has made me an authority myself. — Albert Einstein
When a pamphlet was published entitled 100 Authors Against Einstein, Einstein retorted “If I were wrong, one would be enough.” — Albert Einstein, perhaps apocryphal but absolutely true
Then there’s Richard Feynman, one of the best physicists of the last century:

Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts. — Richard Feynman
Have no respect whatsoever for authority; forget who said it and instead look at what he starts with, where he ends up, and ask yourself, “Is it reasonable? — Richard Feynman
Here’s Scott Adams, cartoonist, hypnotist, author, and general troublemaker:

One thing I can say with complete certainty is that it is a bad idea to trust the majority of experts in any domain in which both complexity and large amounts of money are involved. — Scott Adams
Whenever you have money, reputations, power, ego, and complexity in play, it is irrational to assume you are seeing objective science. — Scott Adams
And if you will allow me a short digression, I can’t let the opportunity pass without quoting Matt Groening, creator of the Simpsons:

When authorities warn you of the sinfulness of sex, there is an important lesson to be learned. … … Do not have sex with the authorities. — Matt Groening
Facts are meaningless! You could use facts to prove anything that’s even remotely true — Homer (Simpson)
… but I digress. Let us return to the important issue of the meaningless nature of scientific consensus by quoting the aforementioned Galileo Galilei:

In the sciences, the authority of thousands of opinions is not worth as much as one tiny spark of reason in an individual man. — Galileo
And Copernicus:

Among the authorities, it is generally agreed that the Earth is at rest in the middle of the universe, and they regard it as inconceivable and even ridiculous to hold the opposite opinion. However, if we consider it more closely the question will be seen to be still unsettled, and so decidedly not to be despised. — Nicholas Copernicus
Nor is this idea of questioning the authorities new. One of the clearest visions of how science is the process of disbelieving the experts comes from the 11th-century Persian physician, philosopher, and astronomer Abu ‘Ali al-Husayn ibn ‘Abd Allah ibn Sina, better known in the West as Avicenna, who over a thousand years ago wrote:

The seeker after truth is not one who studies the writings of the ancients and, following his natural disposition, puts his trust in them, but rather the one who suspects his faith in them and questions what he gathers from them, the one who submits to argument and demonstration and not the sayings of human beings whose nature is fraught with all kinds of imperfection and deficiency.
Thus, the duty of the man who investigates the writings of scientists, if learning the truth is his goal, is to make himself an enemy of all that he reads, and, applying his mind to the core and margins of its content, to attack it from every side. He should also suspect himself as he performs his critical examination of it, so that he may avoid falling into either prejudice or leniency. — Avicenna
Astounding insights from a man writing in the year 1000 … nothing new under the sun.
And why have I written all of this? Well, it’s because I’m bone-tired of people saying “But Willis, don’t you know that all the scientists agree about the ‘Climate Emergency’? Don’t you realize you’re going against a hundred years of settled climate science? Your work can’t possibly be true, it isn’t peer-reviewed, and besides you’re a climate denier! Surely you must know that there’s a 97% consensus that eeevil humans are responsible for ruining the climate, and that everyone who is anyone agrees that bad weather can be prevented by poor people paying more for gasoline?”
Yes, I know all of that … and for all of the reasons given by all the people above, I don’t give a rat’s gluteus minimus about the existence of some claimed consensus or other. That’s not how science works, never was, and never will be.
My best to each and every one of you, commenters, lurkers, haters, the mildly curious, and all the rest.
w.
Fabulous
Consensus – Conclusive proof that the ability to think clearly is compromised by the nodding of the head
I listen to Max Planck and Einstein on science. Both overturned everything .
The Philosophy of Physics: Planck’s Spiritual Testament – Rising Tide Foundation
There Planck’s mode of actually doing science is discussed.
Einstein was asked on PBS about his theories and that they could be falsified – his answer is quite revealing : science is like digging a mine , finding a diamond, an emerald, tossing them aside. What then are you looking for, asked PBS. Reply ¨the thoughts of God¨.
Montagnier’s Wave Therapy: Quackery or Genius?See :
Dr. Luc Montagnier and the Coming Revolutions in Optical Biophysics – Rising Tide Foundation
This is the Nobel Prize discoverer of HIV. It sure looks like we have a pandemic because Big Pharma will not tolerate this wave nature of living DNA. As Montagnier says it is very difficult to get the wave spectrum right for a given system, but extremely cheap to treat with it. Right now it is costing billions to investigate and billions to treat.
So consensus is lethal. Blocking breakthroughs is actually a deadly threat to humanity. Resolving this is a matter of survival.
This is quite correct 99.9%. The exception is that Copernicus and Galileo did not “prove” heliocentrism wrong. The evidence that did that became available only in the 18th century after they were long gone.
Well, there it is folks, someone who has no qualms about calling a spade a spade. Those are also my sentiments as well in this great article on the foibles of the human ego.
# of published climate scientists in the world? About 6560. If 97% of those scientists are in agreement then only around 3% are not. That would be just under 200 scientists. In a survey of those scientists, in which over 1800 participated, about 600 did not agree. Since 600 is significantly greater then 200 the 97% claim is proven false.
Something I see: 97% of scientists agree that global warming is happening and mostly manmade, and that’s because global warming is happening and since 1950 it’s been significant and mostly manmade. What I see as important, is that not all 97% of these scientists agree that this will be a problem of global catastrophe proportion if we don’t greatly decrease our fossil fuel consumption.
1) There is no evidence to support your belief that the tiny bit of warming since 1950 is significant.
2) There is no evidence to support your belief that the tiny bit of warming since 1950 is mostly man made.
3) The claim that 97% of scientists agree is both not relevant and completely untrue.
4) The belief that global warming is or is going to be catastrophic is 100% refuted by the actual data. Computer models not withstanding.
Unremarkably you’ve managed to make several statements none of which has a grain of truth to it and is completely devoid of evidence.
With respect to the value of consensus in science, consider the following article:
https://scitechdaily.com/12000-scientific-articles-a-year-can-they-all-be-wrong-xps-can-give-misleading-analysis-results/
I have spent a lifetime in R&D and became genuinely interested in strategies for innovation. I had a little bit of a flair for it and wanted to understand what I was doing right. I was also spending more time in a managerial role and realised that training people to be more innovative would be a good thing if only we knew what to teach them. I tried to understand these things.
I won’t go into all the techniques here but one way is to look at bits of the scientific story that don’t quite fit. If It doesn’t make sense, then that is a clue that needs to be understood, not something to be brushed aside. Competitors, like most people, tend to ignore the awkward, irritating bits that can just be ignored.
As an observer, it seems to me that climate science is full of that sort of stuff and the opportunities are huge. but the last thing the “scientists” want is to make progress or increase understanding. It might lead them away from the current “settled science” or worse still, it could show that the current belief is completely wrong. Either of these would land them in a very difficult situation.
For these simple reasons, I believe that mainstream climate science is stuck in a swamp that will take a very long time to drain. It needs a game changing innovation.
Luckily, I can think of one, eh. Willis?
Another from Feynman: “If it doesn’t agree with experiment, it’s wrong.”
Willis, I like all of your posts, but in the spirit of George Carlin on the ten commandments let us condense “They support it with logic, math, computer code, examples, experience, experimental results, thought experiments, or other substantiating backup information.” The power of logic is only as good as the knowledge that drives the premises. Logic without sound premises is counting angels on the head of a pin. Premises are made sound via systematic observation, i. e. compilation of data. Math is the application of a system of tallies to discern order in quantities. Before math can be applied there must be hypothetical quantities (premises) or actual quanties (knowledge). The system by which order is discerned could be math, computer code or little piles of peas. “Examples” are simply some of the cases from which data were collected to create knowledge. “Experience” is is usually a short hand way of saying that I have knowledge about this subject but have either not made or not compiled my measurements. Otherwise it is the same as knowledge. Experimental results are observations taken in controlled conditions and that have been quantified so that they can be objectively evaluated. Other substantiating backup information is presumably quantified observation that is collected outside the controlled environment of an experiment. Thought experiments are exercises to help one think, but they are of no use in evaluating the physical world if the rules of the thought experiment do not follow the measured rules (observations) of the physical world. Some of your points, math, logic, code, thought experiments, are simply methods of discerning order in the rest of your points, examples, experience, experimental results. Therefore, can we shorten by saying that science is the process of discerning order in quantified observation? Otherwise I agree with your argument.
Tage Danielsson, a Swedish comedian, author and film director :
“Without doubt one is not wise”
Kind regards
Anders Rasmusson
The claimed 97% consensus would be meaningless if it wasn’t a fabrication. Since it is entirely a fabrication based on multiple flawed surveys, “studies” and outright lies, it is less than meaningless.
“If I say “There is a Pastafarian God who controls the universe through his noodly appendages”, no one can falsify that statement…”
I’m not sure that I agree.
I would need to see what else Pastafarian theologians say about their God. If they say that he is visible, then I would point out that we would expect to see his noodly appendage. We don’t. If he is invisible, then that falsification would not work.
If they say that he is omnipotent, omniscient, and benevolent, then looking at the world falsifies the claim pretty comprehensively.
(Theologians for other OOB deities have tried to avoid this falsification. None have been successful.)
Angels. Pins. Dancing. You understood my point, but you want to show how you can nit-pick it to death. Sorry, not impressed.
w.
This seems to be a reply to me as I am the one who mentioned angels, pins etc. Since we appear to have progressed from a feeble attempt at George Carlinesque humour to petulant rejoinder let me add that the reason I bothered to comment about such a minor point is that I did not find your explanation of the scientific process to be very clear or in accordance with either the hypothetical scientific process or the actual scientific process. You felt it was necessary to explain the scientific process as a preamble to your argument. If you thought it was that important, you could have thought about it a little longer and then written something about the scientific that was coherent.
BCBill
Since you say that without the slightest attempt to show either where I was wrong or what you think is right, it appears that you don’t understand the scientific process. That’s just your opinion. I may indeed be wrong, but to show me wrong, you need to quote what I said that you think was wrong, and demonstrate, not claim but demonstrate, why and where it’s wrong. At present, your objection is down at the fourth level, “Contradiction”. You need to move up the pyramid.

I discuss this process of falsification here. I’m happy to discuss where you think I’m wrong, but I can’t deal with your claim that you don’t find my “explanation of the scientific process to be very clear or in accordance with either the hypothetical scientific process or the actual scientific process.” That means nothing.
w.
PS—No, you cannot scientifically either falsify or establish the existence of God, Pastafarian or otherwise.
“No, you cannot scientifically either falsify or establish the existence of God, Pastafarian or otherwise.”
OK, nit picking. But I don’t see what is wrong with my falsification of the existence of OOB type Gods.
Pardon my ignorance, but what are “OOB” type Gods?
Thanks,
w.
Willis: I think he means: Omnipotent, Omniscient, and Benevolent.
RoHa: The problem with that “falsification” is that it assumes facts not in evidence, most specifically that the OOB god’s benevolence matches our understanding of benevolent.
If there is an afterlife, that benevolence would have to extend beyond the immediate that we can view, and something that we see as short-term maleficence could very well be benevolent in the long term. The frame of reference for said OOBG is different than ours, therefore we can’t make assumptions.
For the record: I’m an atheist. But I realize that the entire issue of deities and their existence is a matter of faith and as such is not subject to proof, in either direction.
Willis, I think I have to drop this because I am quite sure we aren’t even talking about my original email. However, you have gotten my hackles up resorting to one of your standard tropes, i.e.,” prove it to me in the space of a comment section”, so I am going to make one more stab at making my point. You expressed an opinion on what you consider to be the scientific process. You felt that a definition of the process was important enough to your argument that you opened the discussion with your opinion of what the scientific process involves. I can’t refute your opinion as it is just an opinion but I wasted a reasonable amount of space showing in a light hearted manner how your description of the scientific process was just a list of factors that was redundant and lacking in a central concept of what the scientific process is. For example, to describe how to develop a “falsifiable claim” you supplied an incomplete and jumbled list of methods of analysing data and generating data without even distinguishing between the two categories of concepts and then expected that your readers could divine a process out of that list. If you had actually read my note you might have seen a gentle reproval at the weakness of your descripition, instead you fixated on angels, dancing and pinheads and disregarded the rest. So I can’t refute your opinion as it is in my opinion just a very incomplete and vague description with no refutable points. I have already sufficiently supported that opinion in my initial note and the best way to further support that opinion is to contrast your definition with a different opinion of the scientific process. See the attached. Whether or not you agree with the opinion of the scientific process in the attached image, it at least describes something that can be discerned as a process.
I have other concerns with your opinion of the scientific process. For example, what does it mean to be shown to be “wrong” in data collection? I have reviewed many scientific papers in my life and they all have things that could have been done better, that did not turn out as planned, etc. There is no wrongness in the scientifc process there is simply an honest explanation of what was done, including an accounting of deficiencies, so that the reader can decide how much weight to put on the work (a concept which Feynmen discusses in some detail). One of the major reasons I had for rejecting manuscripts was when the authors tried to hide the deficiencies in their work. Even weak findings often have value in, for example, showing how not to do things. That should be part of the process. Sadly one of the by-products of the reproducibility crisis is that now the importance of work has to be exaggerated and its weaknesses hidden in order for it to be published. Anyway, I don’t have the heart to talk about this anymore for fear that I will be commanded to prove to you what constitutes coherent. I am afraid some things can’t be explained in a reasonable space, it is better that they are learned over the course of one’s life.
By Efbrazil – Own work, CC BY-SA 4.0,
Thanks, Bill. You say:
I do not recall EVER saying either that or anything remotely resembling that. Nor is it a “standard trope” of mine. In fact, I almost never ask anyone to “prove” something, for a simple reason—in general, things in science are not provable, they are only falsifiable.
This is EXACTLY why I insist that people QUOTE MY EXACT WORDS … and it’s also how I tell the bluffers and the feather merchants from those with a real point—the bluffers ignore my clear request, a request which I’ve made over and over, and like you they start complaining about what they fantasize I said.
As to your graphic about the “scientific method”, I fear that it is woefully incomplete. It could all be done by a single scientist in isolation, over and over … and since there is nothing in there about either replicability, or transparency, or testing of the idea by other scientists, it is missing vital elements of the process. It doesn’t matter if I test my idea and I can’t find any faults with it … it only matters when other people test my idea and are unable to find faults with it.
Next, you say:
Of course I read your note, don’t be foolish. It said NOTHING about my description of the scientific method. It claimed that the statement “there is a Pastafarian God” is falsifiable, which is … well … let me call it wildly optimistic.
And in any case, miss the point much? I used the Pastafarian God as an example to show that not all statements can be falsified. Surely you agree that not all statements can be falsified, right?
But instead of focusing on the real issue, that not all statements are falsifiable, you wanted to nitpick about my example. Your note was not a “reproval of the weakness of my description”. Instead, it was all about how in certain circumstances, if certain conditions were met, if you held it up to the light in just the right way, the Pastafarian statement might be falsifiable … or not … SO FREAKING WHAT? Pick your own example of a statement that isn’t falsifiable if you don’t like mine, but don’t pretend that that makes my description of the scientific method wrong.
And other than that, you said NOTHING about my description of the scientific method. Not one word.
You also claim:
AAARGH! QUOTE MY WORDS! I said NOTHING about “data collection”! What you have is not a “concern with my opinion”, because I never stated that opinion. That’s 100% a concern with YOUR opinion …
However, since you asked, an obvious example would be if I thought I was using TS (surface temperature) climate model data in a study, but instead, I was using TAS (surface air temperature) data. Easy enough mistake to make, I did it once. Fortunately I caught it before I posted it, because that meant that my whole train of analysis was based on the wrong data, and thus my conclusions were not valid.
And you don’t even know this kind of being wrong in data collection is possible? Really?
Because if so … why are you trying and failing to lecture me on what science is? Do I need to explain to you how someone can be wrong in logic, math, or computer coding as well as in data?
… smh …
w.
Noodly appendages is a quite respectable multidimensional string topology, can’t see what’s wrong with that. Presumably noodly appendages belongs to the set of Calabi-Yau manifolds?
I reluctantly admit that I have benefited from peer review. The reviewer first pointed out an embarrassing circular argument, and then added a reference to a paper that would help me to strengthen my paper. I replaced the argument, added the extra material, and got published.
I still blush at the thought of that circular argument, though.
Can happen, RoHa. On the other hand, here’s one of my experiences w/peer review.
w.
Ibn Sina is a strong contender for the title of “Most Brilliant Person Ever”.
True. Amazingly modern and profound for the 11th century.
w.
Do you really think we should treat the claims of rangas seriously?
And my favourite, if it smells like turd, it probably is. 🙂
Actually it is this: “Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception” Which is the problem of postmodernism. Everything is relative, so we dare not criticise that bad data, because it is someone’s, and they might be hurt by doing so.
Can I say it’s made up number to support a political narrative, or is that just too obvious?
Lest someone thinks that only climate alarmists make mistakes, read this:
https://scitechdaily.com/exotic-superconductors-the-secret-that-was-never-there/
Well said, good man. 97%, my Aunt Fanny. I like hard evidence. Solid evidence. Computer models are neither one of those, as garbage in-garbage out is still a fact of life no matter who you are or think you are.
I’m pretty sure that if you put enough government grant money into a computer model, you’ll get the answer the government wants.