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Aussie Climate Activists in Damage Control Mode as Winter Weather Strikes the East Coast

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

In the wake of Deputy Leader of the Nationals Senator Matt Canavan’s two word tweet poking fun at climate tropes, academics and other climate activists have scrambled to reassure people global warming is still on track to wreck the world – just as soon as the current cold wave dissipates.

Matt Canavan suggested the cold snap means global warming isn’t real. We bust this and 2 other climate myths

June 11, 2021 2.22pm AEST

Nerilie Abram Professor; ARC Future Fellow; Chief Investigator for the ARC Centre of Excellence for Climate Extremes; Deputy Director for the Australian Centre for Excellence in Antarctic Science, Australian National University
Martin De Kauwe Senior lecturer, UNSW
Sarah Perkins-Kirkpatrick ARC Future Fellow, UNSW

Senator Matt Canavan sent many eyeballs rolling yesterday when he tweeted photos of snowy scenes in regional New South Wales with a sardonic two-word caption: “climate change”. 

Canavan, a renowned opponent of climate action and proponent of the coal industry, appeared to be suggesting that the existence of an isolated cold snap means global warming isn’t real.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison has previously insisted there is “no dispute in this country about the issue of climate change, globally, and its effect on global weather patterns”. But Canavan’s tweet would suggest otherwise.

The reality is, as the climate warms, record-breaking cold weather is becoming less common. And one winter storm does not negate more than a century of human-caused global warming. Here, we take a closer look at the cold weather misconception and two other common climate change myths.

Myth #1: A cold snap means global warming isn’t happening

Canavan’s tweet is an example of a common tactic used by climate change deniers that deliberately conflates weather and climate

Parts of Australia are currently in the grip of a cold snap as icy air from Antarctica is funnelled up over the eastern states. This is part of a normal weather system, and is temporary.

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The tweet which triggered this unseemly scramble to reassure the faithful;

Even up in the tropical North we’ve been forced to blow the dust off our winter woolies.

The “cold snap” is mostly temperatures in the 20s and 30s, pretty mild compared to what a lot of people in the USA experience every year. But it is cold enough that many people in Australia right now likely wish we had a little more of that global warming climate scientists keep promising.

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June 11, 2021 10:08 am

Fascists are so funny…

When heatwaves, hurricanes, droughts, tornadoes, etc.m occur, it’s irrefutable evidence of Warmageddon, and we,”only have 10 years to save the world”, but if record cold events occur, well…., it’s just weather…

Reply to  SAMURAI
June 11, 2021 10:26 am

Unfortunately not only Australias SE has a stong cool winter pattern at the moment, but the complete NH winter weather pattern didn’t suggest a global warming but a trend to a cooler time coming.
In so far SE Australia isn’t “isolated”.

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Reply to  Krishna Gans
June 11, 2021 6:49 pm

We predicted global cooling to start circa 2020 in a paper published in 2002.
Nailed it. See for new record cold events all over the planet.

By Allan M.R. MacRae, Published March 21, 2021, Update 1e published May 8, 2021
By Allan M.R. MacRae, B.A.Sc.(Eng.), M.Eng., January 10, 2020
By Allan M.R. MacRae and Joseph D’Aleo, October 27, 2019

Reply to  Krishna Gans
June 11, 2021 10:19 pm

Krisshna-san: “NH winter weather pattern didn’t suggest a global warming but a trend to a cooler time coming.”

You’re correct. The PDO and AMO are very close to reentering their respective 30-year cool cycles which will bring 30+ years of global cooling as occurred from 1880~1913 and 1945~1979.

it’s going to be hilarious watching Fascists concocting excuses for decades of global cooling while yearly CO2 emissions hit new records…

Reply to  SAMURAI
June 11, 2021 10:30 am

Not at all. Record cold events are caused by climate change.

Just wait till these boneheads join their brethren in the USA and Britain and ban ng gas heating.

Reply to  shrnfr
June 11, 2021 2:32 pm

My gas heating has been going full blast all day for at least two weeks now, and on and off since March. Blue Mountains, NSW.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Lrp
June 11, 2021 6:46 pm

Yes, I bet it is cold up there, you have a slight altitude issue there. I am near Redfen, NSW, and I have two jumpers on and two electric heaters switched on, albeit they are only small 1KW oil filled heaters.

Reply to  shrnfr
June 12, 2021 3:03 am

theyre already starting the Gas is Bad campaigns in Aus
nasty stuff PM.25 and asthma inducing etc etc

Reply to  ozspeaksup
June 12, 2021 9:42 am

And they will all tell you EVOLUTION!!.

So how is it that humans evolved cooking and staying warm around open wood, dung and bone fires for millions of years are not capable of efficiently dealing with combustion particulates?

Just askin.

Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
Reply to  ozspeaksup
June 12, 2021 10:41 pm

I too have noticed the attack on gas as “causing PM’ pollution. What a crock.

Meanwhile the proponents of propane are running a global campaign against kerosene and wood for cooking on the same basis.

Kerosene?? That is just jet fuel without antifreeze. Honestly there are too many silly agendas in the world.

It is hard to believe Australians are as gullible as the ABC is wont to assume. Perhaps 4 months of good skiing and three dog/jersey nights will send a penetrating message that it is getting cold.

Peter East
Reply to  shrnfr
June 12, 2021 3:31 pm

In NZ we too are going to start phasing out gas for home heating & cooking. No new connections to the reticulation system from now!
Last year we imported 1.1 million tonnes of coal for electricity production. Crazy when we have coal here. Government hypocrisy/virtue signalling at its best!

Reply to  SAMURAI
June 11, 2021 10:32 am

It would be funny if they weren’t so serious about destroying modern society and killing a lot of people.

Bill Powers
Reply to  SAMURAI
June 11, 2021 10:45 am

Here’s one for you to check out where you live. Where I live in the mid-Atlantic of the good old USofA, when the local television meteorologists report the weather they use a Hidden Persuader brainwashing technique.

If the temperature is above the average for the recorded highs of the past they report the temperature to be “above NORMAL” for the day, subliminally implanting the notion that something is wrong with the temperature. Its not normal.

Now If the temperature comes in below the average for the past recorded temps they report the temperature of the day to be “below AVERATE” for this day. in other words, “ho hum. nothing to see here folks. Stay tuned to this station for further updates of our ongoing man made global warming emergency, catastrophe. apocalypses…[enter your favored description for impending end of days here]”.

Reply to  Bill Powers
June 11, 2021 11:15 am

We see that in the UK the BBC are especially fond of that technique, and they think nobody has noticed.

Reply to  Notanacademic
June 11, 2021 3:40 pm

They also give forecast temperatures based on urban locations, and then sign off with the comment that temperatures in the countryside will be 2 or 3 degree or so colder. ( Degrees forecast in degrees Celsius. )

Reply to  StephenP
June 12, 2021 6:38 am

wunderground will typically pick the hottest station around for its current temperature. It’s amusing because whenever i check the forecast the temp, even mid february, is always 97F. That station has been broken for over a year.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Notanacademic
June 12, 2021 12:04 am

That signals their total arrogance & self-belief that they are beyond questioning, after all, being over-funded by the taxpayer, they believe in their god-like status!!! They were pro-EU because they were paid £20M by them to promote the EU, as was every other state broadcaster within the EU!!!

Reply to  Alan the Brit
June 12, 2021 12:31 am

I didn’t know they received money from the EU. Now I hate paying my TV license fee even more.

Reply to  Bill Powers
June 11, 2021 7:46 pm

“Above normal” and “below average” are specified in the “style sheet” for weather reporting. It’s like capitalizing the first letter of a word that refers to one group but not doing that with another.
Style guide – Wikipedia

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To bed B
Reply to  Bill Powers
June 11, 2021 10:57 pm

Being significantly above or below “normal” might be unusual in the tropics along the coast. Look at a town inland in temperate regions and you will find about 10% of days with maximum temperatures within 1°C of the mean. My town gets the same number of days 9°C warmer.

Reply to  SAMURAI
June 11, 2021 10:53 am

In Critical Climate Change theory, only climate scientists are privileged to decide what is evidence and what’s not. Reality need not apply.

another ian
Reply to  Scissor
June 11, 2021 3:40 pm

A further extension

“Only Democrats have permission to “clarify”: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Thursday that she welcomed a clarification from Rep. Ilhan Omar over a tweet about Israel that critics on both sides of the aisle said had unfairly compared the U.S. and Israel to terrorist groups.”


Reply to  SAMURAI
June 11, 2021 11:05 am

You are unsophisticated. The cold weather is caused by global warming. Trust Big Brother.

alastair gray
Reply to  JamesD
June 11, 2021 3:29 pm

doubleplusgoodthink. Double ration of Koolaid for you my boy, and a shot of Soma lovely Soma

Alan the Brit
Reply to  JamesD
June 12, 2021 12:11 am

That’s why it’s no longer generally referred to as Global Warming, because with Climate Change, it doesn’t matter which way the damned temperature goes, it’s all Climate Change!!! I hear the BBC et al refer to “a warming world” but that’s about as far as it goes!!! The Final Solution is always the creation & establishment of a one-world “globul guvment” to solve everything!!! Now who was it who said, “all power corrupts, & absolute power corrupts absolutely!”.

Reply to  JamesD
June 12, 2021 2:42 pm

Well, the energy to heat the atmosphere has to come from somewhere.
Where do they plan to keep dumping the resultant cold air?

old doc
Reply to  JamesD
June 13, 2021 8:48 pm

Trust big non-binary sibling.

JP Kalishek
Reply to  SAMURAI
June 11, 2021 11:35 am

I’ve been assured it is also warmening that’s causing cold weather during the wrong part of the year, or in places that normally don’t get it.

Reply to  SAMURAI
June 11, 2021 1:24 pm

I think this really going to be a problem for the warmists, especially if the Earth is actually heading into a period of naturally occurring cooling. Erasing the pause was challenge enough but how are they going to cope with a real cooling trend? It will be entertaining to observe.

Up next:

Latent Global Warming: The reason we are experiencing colder temperatures is because the heating of the Earth is like winding a watch spring. Every year, as the cold temperatures continue, the spring gets tighter and tighter and tighter… until BAM !!! And periodically, before the BIG BAM occurs, the spring randomly releases smaller bams of latent energy into the eyes of hurricanes and tornadoes increasing there destructive power, as well as “bamming off” Antarctic ice bergs and such.

Bill Nye could then demonstrate this to Congress: by roasting some POP CORN in a pan of vegetable oil, where after 10 minutes of gentle heating from a Bunsen burner, all hell breaks loose in the House of Representatives as the kernels go flying!

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alastair gray
Reply to  Anon
June 11, 2021 3:31 pm

Talking about popcorn Why don t we burn it in stoves It will be warmer than bioethanol , and just as stupid and criminal a waste of food resources.

Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
Reply to  alastair gray
June 12, 2021 10:49 pm

Corn as fuel is just biomass. People could just as easily grow one season biomass of some other kid.

Having the production capacity increases food security.

However I agree is is a silly waste of fuel to make ethanol. Gasohol reduces fuel mileage 4%. Silly idea. It doesn’t reduce consumption of anything.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Anon
June 12, 2021 12:15 am

The rather worrying thing about your last paragraph is that the members of the HoR might just be “smart enough” to believe in the demonstration!!! We in the UK have a similar calibre of political representative, unfortunately!!! 🙁

Reply to  Anon
June 14, 2021 10:11 am

“how are they going to cope with a real cooling trend?”

“We have increased your chocolate ration to one bar per week”
“We have always been at war with EastAsia”

Rory Forbes
Reply to  SAMURAI
June 11, 2021 2:31 pm

That’s because there is a noticeable “climate” of stupidity and wilful ignorance emanating from the warmunists. It must be terribly frustrating to have absolutely no evidence to support their claims.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Rory Forbes
June 11, 2021 9:01 pm

Sophistry doesn’t help them? So sad.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
June 12, 2021 12:18 am

It doesn’t help them true, but then again, a Sophist was a paid public speaker in Ancient Greece, paid to stand on street corners spouting whatever he was paid to spout, regardless of whether he believed in it or not!!! After all, the true meaning of the word “sophisticated” is “corrupt & adulterated”!

Willem Post
Reply to  SAMURAI
June 11, 2021 2:38 pm

I just started up my fireplace in Woodstock, Vermont, USA, at 5:30 pm, on June 11, 2021

The temperature was less than 40F in the morning, but now it just above 50F

Reply to  Willem Post
June 13, 2021 11:02 pm

Here in northern WI (45.3N) we are in the 8th day of a heatwave. Most days have been between 88 and 94F, with the hottest 97. Our average high temp is 72.

June 11, 2021 10:24 am

Isn’t this the time of year when winter weather strikes there? Why would they feel the need to protest people pointing out the winter weather, seems a bit insecure.

Bill Powers
Reply to  2hotel9
June 11, 2021 10:28 am

Were I live we are experiencing Global Warming. For the first 38 years of my life they called it summer.

Reply to  Bill Powers
June 11, 2021 10:37 am

I was just out enjoying the GHE so generously supplied by our planets lovely climate, need a shower now. Tomatoes on the front steps filling in with little ‘maters and local corn is looking good. Damned Globall Warmining.

Curious George
Reply to  Bill Powers
June 11, 2021 11:03 am

According to President Biden, the climate change is the greatest danger facing the USA . He is declaring a wartime economy to fight it.

Reminds me of four worst enemies of the Soviet Union: Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter.

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Reply to  Curious George
June 11, 2021 3:45 pm

Last week it was UFOs. The week before that it was White Supremacists. What does the Magic 8-Ball think it will be next week?

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  2hotel9
June 11, 2021 10:47 am

Sydney is at 33° South latitude, about the same as Wilmington, North Carolina or Riverside California at North latitude. The former has an average minimum temperature in January of 47°F, with a range of 36°F to 57°F. The latter has an average minimum temperature in December of 54°F, with a range of 42°F to 69°F. Both are coastal and should be a good comparison to Sydney, which in June sees an average temperature of 57°F with a low and high of 49°F and 64°F respectively. So, temperatures in the 20’s and 30’s for Sydney is definitely unusual for this time of year.

Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
June 12, 2021 4:08 am

I have been in Wilmington area during winter, it gets plenty cold, I get your point. Still, it is winter and to be expected, especially with all this Globall Warmining making the planet so cold. 😉

June 11, 2021 10:24 am

Now say three Hail Gores and kneel in prayer to the scroll of the Paris Climate Agreement. Blessed are the closed minded alarmists for they shall inherit the money and grant-making agenda, with abundant perks and climate conference trips.

Bill Powers
Reply to  ResourceGuy
June 11, 2021 11:08 am

They have extracted key sections of the sacred scroll and created a hymn book for the choir to sing the praises of Mann, Gore, et. al. in high mass on all hollows eve. The largest congregation comes together at the University of East Anglia and is attended by such dignitaries as HarriSin Fokker, Leo Lardo Da Crapio, Muck Ruffitup, Hanoi [Jane still hasn’t] Fondit, that, of course, would be her butt with both hands after 83 years, et al.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Bill Powers
June 11, 2021 11:55 am

“How dare you!!!”
– Saint Greta

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
June 11, 2021 11:59 am

got it?

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
June 11, 2021 3:15 pm

There are rumors that she may be maturing out of her childish fear of “Climate Crisis.”

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Hal McCombs
Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
June 11, 2021 8:47 pm

Poor guy.

Mike Lowe
Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
June 12, 2021 4:06 am

Is he as stupid and uneducated as you? Do you have your handlers’ approval to associate with him?

Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
June 12, 2021 5:14 am

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alastair gray
Reply to  Bill Powers
June 11, 2021 3:35 pm

Plus priests ,poets, popes, pedagogues princes, pimps and panderers, and selected other practically perfect poppinses.

June 11, 2021 10:28 am

This is part of a normal weather system, and is temporary.

…makes the disallowance of cheap fuel for heating, cooking and water purification quite criminal, does it not?

June 11, 2021 10:34 am

If the weather doesn’t fit the alarmist agenda it’s weather, if the weather does fit the alarmist agenda it is proof of climate change.

Other alarmist explanation: cold extremes are also proof climate change.

So climate change becomes non-falsifiable.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Hans Erren
June 11, 2021 2:36 pm

You’ll be hard pressed to find any aspect of their “science” that IS falsifiable. It’s all based on unsupported conjecture reinforced with incompetent models.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Rory Forbes
June 12, 2021 12:23 am

Surely the “models” are only incompetent because the scientificky peeps that programmed were incompetent?

June 11, 2021 10:34 am

This of a case where both parties can be right or wrong. Since climate change describes long term changes, weather related changes have little bearing on climate change. However, recent changes in the definition of terms like climate change equate it falsely to “a change apparent from the mid to late 20th century onwards and attributed largely to the increased levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide produced by the use of fossil fuels”. Google’s new definition of climate change. Having lived through the extremely cold temps in the late 70’s and early 80’s, the recent warming trend is welcome. Having studied the Dust Bowl era in the 30’s shows that warming was far more extreme then than any recent year. Just look at all the all time heat records in the US State records set during that period as opposed to only 2 State records since year 2000. Not exactly catastrophic.

So an event that occurs over a long period such as a grand solar minimum can have a dramatic effect on earth’s climate as does solar maximums. Volcanism can also have dramatic short term effects.

This year our dahlia garden is three weeks late due to uncharacteristic cold weather in the Northwest. I don’t call it climate change. When it was 87 degrees for one day last week I don’t call it climate change. The UAH linear warming trend since 1979 of .14 C per decade is also not an indication of climate change. This particular record uses a very cold period as a start. The longer one lives the more we realize there is little to worry about regarding climate change.

Reply to  John
June 11, 2021 11:02 am

You mean it’s not a climate emergency, not an existential threat?

Reply to  John
June 11, 2021 5:04 pm

Well we topped that 87 a week ago, it was 105 (40.6C) not just a record for that day here in our small prairie town but second highest ever after a 44.4 in 1936. I don’t call that climate change either. Now only ten days before that we had two nights of temps below freezing and had to cover our vegetable plants, now that usual cold in June must mean global warming right? I’m confused.

June 11, 2021 10:53 am

The Rise of the Authoritarian Left via Sky News

“Slowly but surely, the people will wake up and that’s what these plutocratic elites fear the most.”

June 11, 2021 10:57 am

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

Joel O'Bryan
June 11, 2021 11:53 am

This is just turn-about is fair play.
The weather as climate fallacy can be used by both sides.

Chris Nisbet
June 11, 2021 12:04 pm

Cold weather always comes in ‘snaps’ nowadays, doesn’t it? Always the suggestion that the cold weather that always comes our way is only some brief interlude between the ongoing onslaught of warmer than average conditions (perish the thought).
The propaganda is relentless.

June 11, 2021 12:35 pm

Electric boat teeters on edge of Texas dam… Saved by gas-powered boat…
Draw your own conclusions about electric power.
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Rory Forbes
Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
June 11, 2021 2:38 pm

I’m guessing not one of them wanted to save their underwear.

Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
June 11, 2021 2:59 pm

Interesting. Had acquaintance accept a software job with a boat manufacturer (it’s a thing) He was proud they were developing an electric (battery only) boat. Probably was not happy that I responded that may be the worst idea I’d ever heard (as evidence in this article) Willis could do it, but you end up fighting current, waves, wind, cold… Apparently even in EV cars vehicle range can vary dramatically on conditions; uphill downhill wind, cold.
Then there’s those pesky charging transformers and batteries hanging over salt water…. I believe EV’s are going to run into the edge of their use case sooner than EV cheerleaders expect.

Hal McCombs
Reply to  taz1999
June 11, 2021 8:52 pm

I Would love to have a Tesla. With a bumper sticker that Says “Coal Powered”.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Hal McCombs
June 12, 2021 1:54 pm

Better yet, I’d like a box full of “coal powered” stickers, and to slap them on every Tesla or other EV I see!

Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
June 13, 2021 2:27 pm

None have a life jacket on.
complete idiots.

John Pickens
June 11, 2021 12:58 pm

I live near Philadelphia, PA in the US.
It is June 11th.
At 3:54pm it is 61 degrees F (16C)
“Normal” high for this date is 81F (27C)
The lowest high recorded for this date is 72F (22C)

We are on track to have the lowest high for this date by 11F (6C)

It ain’t just Australia, folks.

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  John Pickens
June 11, 2021 3:45 pm

It’s been hot in Michigan for about a week. It was unusually cold one week and unusually hot the next. Sounds about average.

To bed B
Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
June 12, 2021 2:39 am

You’ve hit the nail on the head. Huge swings are normal and you can stick your head put the window and see the effects of climate change? As little as 0.3 C hotter due to human emissions and even an idiot can see the scientists are right?

Bruce Cobb
June 11, 2021 1:45 pm

The hilarious thing is that the Warmunists never seem to understand that they are being mocked.

June 11, 2021 1:49 pm

As I was walking down the stair
I met a man who wasn’t there.
He wasn’t there again today
Oh how I wish he’d go away.

alastair gray
Reply to  Damon
June 11, 2021 3:40 pm

sure ’tis a philosopher you are to be sure sorr

June 11, 2021 1:50 pm

Its difficult to find the moveable tipping point and the point of origin of the Big Bang.

Chris Nisbet
June 11, 2021 2:17 pm

The TVNZ weatherman, Dan, did suggest that weather system in NSW is an example of what we’re seeing more and more of, due to climate change.
It’s a dirty tactic. They’ll accept that no single weather event can be blamed on ‘climate change’, and then suggest that every unusual weather event is one.

Mike Lowe
Reply to  Chris Nisbet
June 12, 2021 4:12 am

Dan is part of the MSM, bribed by Cindy with taxpayers’ money!

June 11, 2021 2:24 pm

The alarmist position for SE Australia is lower annual rainfall, especially in winter. Thus the cold weather is clearly not evidence of climate change.

Although a knowledgeable climate scientist knows this cold front is not evidence of climate change, he/she will not scold the politicians or media for saying it is. IMO this is lying by silence.

June 11, 2021 2:40 pm

It’s funny how the ARC excellencies jump at the mere suggestion that’s all weather, because it threatens the very reason for their employment and attachment to a cushy lifestyle supported by public taxes.
The only way to eliminate the climate scam is to cut their funding.

June 11, 2021 2:51 pm

The following is my claim based on my own anecdotal evidence.

The recent storm in the outer east of Melbourne was not really that bad.
Many trees have fallen blocking roads and knocking out power lines.
However, due to the reluctance to clear old trees from the roadside, there were more weak trees to be blown down. This grossly inflates the severity of this event.

There was a 12+ hour period from Wednesday night to Thursday morning with winds 30-40km/hr with gusts upto 60km/hr.
60 km/hr is not really that bad.

June 11, 2021 3:02 pm

Hey, Aussie Climate Activists, I have a message for you from someone who is “in the know.”
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June 11, 2021 3:07 pm

In 1800 the one billion humans had a life expectancy of under 40 years. See Dr Rosling’s 200 countries BBC video.
But today the 7.78 bn humans have a life exp of 73 and of course are much healthier and wealthier than at any time in history.Check the data for yourselves.
And the data shows that life exp is steadily increasing every decade and even African life exp has increased by a further 17 years since 1970.
IOW the 363 million Africans in 1970 comparison to the 1370 million today is verifiable evidence that their so called EXISTENTIAL threat or APOCALYPSE OR CRISIS etc is delusional nonsense.
So when will they WAKE UP?Of course today over 80% of global energy is generated by fossil fuels like coal, oil and gas. WAKEY, WAKEY.

June 11, 2021 3:21 pm

”Canavan’s tweet is an example of a common tactic used by climate change deniers that deliberately conflates weather and climate.”


Of course, when its hot its ‘climate change, but when its cold its just the weather.

Gary Pearse
June 11, 2021 3:24 pm

I often point out ‘poker tells’ (essentially players unwittingly revealing what’s in their poker hand
by gestures, language etc.) in offerings from stressed climateers when they have to explain such things as “coldest snap in 25 yrs”.

This is an especially strong tell. The explainers know they have a climate change wrecker in this one and so they throw in “two other climate change myths” to blunt the wrecker and make it smaller. This is to show that, hey, we see this all the time during the planet’s inexorable race to thermageddon. This was a tough one for the cleanup team. Is “Future Fellow” perhaps a prize for those who aquit themselves well in this sort of game, perhaps? The ARC Centre for Excellence in Climate Science is itself a good poker tell….

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  Gary Pearse
June 11, 2021 3:49 pm

The ARC Centre certainly doesn’t live up to it’s name. Every time I’ve seen it associated with an article they are spouting complete bull crap.

Reply to  Gary Pearse
June 11, 2021 3:53 pm

The Australian obsession with centres of excellence is embarrassing; all they are is centres for sucking funding from taxpayers, with very little, if any, excellence provided in return.

Reply to  Lrp
June 11, 2021 5:11 pm

“Sydney shivered through its coldest day for almost four decades today while some its suburbs were even chillier.
Sydney had a projected high of just 11C but it couldn’t even reach that instead topping out at a mere 10.3C.
The last time it was that cold was way back in 1984, 37 years ago.
Bankstown’s high of 9.6C made it the coldest day since 1983. Penrith in Sydney’s west scraped to 8.3C which is its coldest day since records began, about 25 years for that suburb.
Scone in the Hunter Valley reached 8.2C, its coldest day in more than three decades. Nearby Cessnock saw its chilliest day since records began there almost 50 years ago.
Narrabri, in the state’s north, got to 7.4C. The last day it was that cold was in 1962.”

Penrith – coldest since records began.
Cessnock – coldest since record began
Narrabri. – ? coldest since records began
Bankstown – coldest since records began
Scone. – ?
Sydney. – .?

Seems a lot worse when it is the coldest ever time frame unspecified

Rich T.
June 11, 2021 5:06 pm

This bit of news for all the alarmists. And for the Alarmist czar running NZ. . It’s all just weather, right. When the country freezes solid, it will be climate change as the wind stops, and the solar doesn’t work from the snow. And no one has any heat of electricity.

Peter W
Reply to  Rich T.
June 11, 2021 5:47 pm

Did it work that way for Texas back in February?

Furiously Curious
June 11, 2021 5:13 pm

During this nasty Northern winter Forbes magazine published an article theorising that global warming caused the cold spells by destabilising the Arctic, and so driving the cold south.
Thinking that maybe this weather pattern should show up in the Medieval and Roman warming periods, I took a very brief look at Wikipedia. It mentioned that the MW was characterised by warm summers and mild winters, and in Roman times they recorded the Tiber freezing over 3 times in the 300s BC, and once in 179 BC; the RWP having begun in about 250 BC.

Tony Taylor
June 11, 2021 5:35 pm

Serious question: do any leftists not believe in climate change?

Earl Rodd
June 11, 2021 6:49 pm

It would be funny if it were not so sad: when a climate realist makes a joke intentionally conflating weather and climate change, the climate zealots are quick to “educate” us all on the difference in climate and weather. But they let news report after news report attributing every wild fire, hurricane, or hot spell to “climate change” go unchallenged.

June 11, 2021 6:52 pm

11am in Adelaide South Australia and it’s 13C outside with an overcast grey blanket of cloud everywhere. My 2200W solar roof panels are pumping out a glorious 200W. It’s the original FIT scheme as a first adopter and my neighbours are paying me 59c/kWhr until 2028 while it averages 8kWhrs a day annually but you can see the marginal problem writ large.

With FIT rates for slowpokes and new installs dropping as low as 7c and even that being throttled with smart meters for the duck curve I’d need over 8 times the solar collection size for equivalent return. Naturally with such largesse at present I’m not permitted to add to the system without losing the 59c. So I wait for 2028 to junk them and go BIG with a solar diverter for electric storage HWS- Solar Energy | Catch Power | Glen Innes

The chances of Elon’s Powerwalls etc being an economic proposition by then are zilch with all the mandated EVs by whenever the next lot of pollies can manage it but we’ll see. In the meantime I have a modest RV generator (and its LPG) on standby for fridge lighting and electronics but that can be upped if necessary. It’s comforting to reside in a leafy seaside burb in a Mediterranean climate with all this madness going on.

June 11, 2021 7:30 pm

weather isn’t climate unless it suits the narrative

Maree Eggleston
June 11, 2021 7:52 pm

Still very cold here in Newcastle today, 12c on the coast here at midday, 5c overnight minimum. This is early June winter, July is always coldest in Australia.

Peter K
June 11, 2021 10:03 pm

Orange NSW had the best snow cover in about 40 years. In fact we never had a summer this year and every month this year has, so far, finished with a negative anomaly.

June 11, 2021 11:03 pm

My truck load of firewood I expected to last through winter is now depleted by over half at 22 June, 2021.

June 11, 2021 11:06 pm

Friends in Gippsland, Victoria, suffered electricity supply off from 8.00 pm a couple of days ago to midday the following day. They told me that this is happening too often now.

Hazlewood brown coal fired Power Station is not a long drive away from their property, now shut down at a loss of 25 per cent of the State’s electricity generating capacity.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Dennis
June 12, 2021 12:02 am

There were some big storms and flooding recently in Victoria, so may have been a contributor. But yes, politicians are shutting down reliable energy production here in Australia. It will only get worse.

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Patrick MJD
June 13, 2021 2:07 am

Don’t you folk have elections anymore? Or have you gone over to the lefty sure-fire voter machines used in the US and developed in Venezuela?

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Gary Pearse
June 13, 2021 8:33 pm

We do, unfortunately all parties are punch drunk on the climate alarmist koolaid. I can’t vote due to my residency status here in Australia and if I could there are no parties that warrant my vote.

Last edited 1 year ago by Patrick MJD
June 12, 2021 12:33 am

These people would call an ice age a “cold snap”.

To bed B
June 12, 2021 2:43 am

Interesting chat with my Dad. His country of birth, Croatia, has trees to yet shoot in June.

How does that happen if the world is warmer? Remember that the imperceptible change can cause heatwaves.

June 12, 2021 11:37 am

Whilst the alarmists are quick to claim that these are exceptions, the point they are missing is it has been them that over recent decades has taken every opportunity to use every exceptional high, often recorded in some previously unknown hamlet, to push their preaching down our throats, and as such, comments such as these about exceptional colder temperatures are driven more as an opportunity to counter their constant bleating.

June 12, 2021 1:29 pm

As we are in for a solar minimum, hopefully not more severe than ~1965-1975 (-ish) coldsnap, more likely as severe as the ~100 year cycle, cross all fingers not remotely as bad as the ~850 (-ish) year cycle…

It’s a coldsnap. Happens every year whereafter temperatures revert to “normalish” to continue to fall towards the yearly lowpoint (February for northern hemisphere, August for southern).

Also happens every year is the opposit. As temperatures rise, there is a warmsnap whereafter temperatures revert to “normalish” to continue to rise towards the yearly highpoint.

It’s just weather (depending on polar vortex which depends on solar activity which depends on planetary positions and orbits).


Jeff Alberts
June 12, 2021 8:24 pm

Is it Winter there yet? June 21?

Michael 2
June 12, 2021 8:35 pm

“The “cold snap” is mostly temperatures in the 20s and 30s,” Presumably, this being Australia these temperatures are Celsius and would not be considered cold anywhere except maybe Saudi Arabia.

June 13, 2021 6:15 am

It’s just the “La Nina” – and a rather good one.
Sure OK, it might not “disprove” global warming. But it does rather strongly suggest that the government’s predictions are excessive and exaggerated.

Alec Rawls
June 14, 2021 10:32 am

“… more than a century of human-caused global warming.”

Astounding how ignorant these alarmist foot-soldiers are. They don’t even know what the warmista “consensus” position is: that even with the outsized CO2 warming effects the IPCC consensoids assume, human increments to atmospheric CO2 have only been large enough to have any significant effect on temperature since1950, and the planet cooled from the 50s through most of the 70s.

Sorry doofuses but of the 300 years of post-Little-Ice-Age warming the only part that is even conceivably due to anthropogenic greenhouse gases is the little uptick between 1980 and 2000, and that is most likely due to the grand maximum of solar activity that lasted from 1920 to 2000.

Ed Zuiderwijk
June 15, 2021 2:31 am

It’s cold. And this year’s springtime (in Europe) was absolutely colder than last year. And last year’s spring was (at least here in Liverpool) a bit colder than the year before that.

Now there are three hypotheses:

1) You are kidding yourself, the Earth’s climate is warming up.
2) There was cooling but it was actually caused somehow by a warming climate.
3) Actually the Earth’s climate is cooling.

Which of these is the more likely?

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