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Guardian: 40% of UK Solar Panels Manufactured by Firms Linked to Chinese Slave Labour

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

h/t Martin; According to the Guardian, silicon sourced from suspected slave labour in Xinjiang was used to manufacture solar panels in 40% of Britain’s solar farms.

Revealed: UK solar projects using panels from firms linked to Xinjiang forced labour

Investigation finds up to 40% of UK solar farms were built using panels from leading Chinese companies

Jillian Ambrose and Jasper Jolly
Mon 26 Apr 2021 02.00 AEST

Solar projects commissioned by the Ministry of Defence, the government’s Coal Authority, United Utilities and some of the UK’s biggest renewable energy developers are using panels made by Chinese solar companies accused of exploiting forced labour camps in Xinjiang province, a Guardian investigation has found.

Confidential industry data suggests that up to 40% of the UK’s solar farms were built using panels manufactured by China’s biggest solar panel companies, including Jinko Solar, JA Solar and Trina Solar.

These firms have been named in a recent report on the internment of more than 1 million men and women from the Muslim Uyghur community, in what UK MPs on Thursday voted to describe as genocide.

Companies with factories or major suppliers in Xinjiang produce about a third of the polysilicon material used to make the world’s solar panels, according to a detailed report by the US consultancy Horizon Advisory. China is the world leader in polysilicon production.

The report found that Chinese solar companies had ties to indicators of forced labour in Xinjiang, where Uyghur are interned, via this polysilicon production.

Chris Hewett, chief executive of Solar Energy UK, a lobby group, said: “This is a matter that UK solar energy industry members are treating with the utmost seriousness.” He said making global supply chains “as transparent and sustainable as possible” brought a “significant degree of complexity”.

Hewett said the UK solar industry was working with international trade bodies to develop a “traceability protocol” to safeguard the global supply chain from human rights abuses.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/apr/23/revealed-uk-solar-projects-using-panels-from-firms-linked-to-xinjiang-forced-labour

I’m sure the USA is in a similar situation – the allegedly tainted companies which supplied solar panels to Britain also supply solar panels to the USA.

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Rory Forbes
April 25, 2021 10:17 pm

Do people really believe the Chinese are so much better at finance than every other manufacturing nation? There are business reasons that make China’s prices so bloody competitive. Surely people don’t believe it’s just lower wages. Even they aren’t paid that poorly. The trick is not to pay workers at all.

Marc
Reply to  Rory Forbes
April 25, 2021 10:36 pm

Its like Warden Norton from the Shawshank Redemption- you just can’t compete with slave labor prices. China has been using forced labor on their massive infrastructure projects for decades. You can build things both fast and cheap if you put all your political prisoners to work.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Marc
April 26, 2021 11:14 am

You can build things both fast and cheap if you put all your political prisoners to work.

It’s a common theme used by socialist powers because socialism is and will always be an economic failure, so slavery balances the books for them. A popular saying in Soviet Russia was; “We pretend to work and they pretend to pay us.”

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  Rory Forbes
April 25, 2021 11:43 pm

Slaves are expensive to keep. All corporations, for many years, have found that it’s far cheaper to pay low wages, where people have to pay for their own food and accommodation.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
April 25, 2021 11:52 pm

Certainly slave owners who kept slaves as working livestock had to look after their well being. That has not been the case with socialist masters. The Nazis could get loads of work out of their slaves before they died of over work, exposure and starvation, so did the Soviets. I’d imagine the Chinese are no less resourceful. The Arabs have maintained a slave trade for centuries and clearly find it more lucrative than paying wages.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Rory Forbes
April 26, 2021 5:15 am

Exactly. If slavery wasn’t productive, capitalism would have started earlier. Cheap energy is the only, and I mean ONLY, reason slavery became obsolete. Long live cheap energy!

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
April 26, 2021 10:52 am

Cheap energy is the only, and I mean ONLY, reason slavery became obsolete.

I agree, with one exception … there is no accounting for raw greed and ignorance. The Arabs, with boundless cheap energy, still maintain the slave trade in Africa.

anthropic
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
April 27, 2021 11:53 pm

Slavery did not die out because it became economically obsolete. On the contrary, the Brits suffered a tripling in the price of sugar, a very important commodity at that time, after slavery was ended. As for the US, right up until the Civil War slaves returned about ten percent a year, and slave prices were rising. Louisiana had more millionaires than any other state, and it sure wasn’t due to oil & crawfish.

The reason slave died out in the West is that it became morally objectionable, primarily through the efforts of Christian groups headed by people like Wilberforce. It was expensive to give up slavery, which is why the South fought a massive war to keep it.

starzmom
Reply to  Rory Forbes
April 26, 2021 8:51 am

It paid off for the Vikings too. They are still finding hoards of Arab silver in Scandinavian countries and former Viking strongholds. Arabs liked the blonde blue eyed peoples of Ireland and Scotland.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  starzmom
April 26, 2021 10:53 am

Arabs liked the blonde blue eyed peoples of Ireland and Scotland.

And they still do … plus don’t forget the Scandinavians.

starzmom
Reply to  Rory Forbes
April 26, 2021 1:39 pm

The Vikings didn’t usually take their wives and daughters to the slave markets in Constantinople–they took Irish and British captives to sell to the Arabs. Probably boys too.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  starzmom
April 26, 2021 2:10 pm

You’re right, when the Norse went ‘Viking’, there was no point in taking women and children. The object was booty and trade. Notice I used ‘viking’ as a verb. Viking is what they did, not who they were. Many of those Irish, Scots and English slaves had Norse roots.

I mentioned Scandinavians because the Arabs are still partial to blond, blue eyed girls, judging by the large numbers of Arab “refugees” who end up in Sweden and Denmark.

starzmom
Reply to  Rory Forbes
April 26, 2021 3:57 pm

You are quite correct that Irish, Scots and English slaves had Norse roots–usually because the Norse/Jutes/Danes raped and pillaged their ways through the isles and northwestern Europe. Sometimes I suppose they attacked each other as well. From the reading I have done, it seems they went “a-viking” because they had no land, no marriage prospects, and time on their hands. Booty and slaves were used for trade, but they often settled down and started families with the native women they met along the way. This explains why over 40% of the maternal DNA in Iceland is Irish, while 60-80% of Y-chromosome DNA is Norse.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  starzmom
April 26, 2021 5:31 pm

Don’t forget the Normans (Norse) and William’s legitimate claim to the throne of England. As for the raping and pillaging, there was rather a lot of that going around … everywhere. The Norse were just very accomplished at it and they had the means – mobility. They had an entirely new marine building technology particularly suited to the task … the Long Ship.

They also had access to Russia’s river systems … a direct route to the black sea and the Arab holdings. In fact ‘Russia’ gets its name from the Rus (old name for Norse). They basically over ran the Baltic and then some. They had lots of land. They simply wanted more, like everyone else. You’re right, though, they were damned successful settlers as well as fighters and traders.

You might have detected a hint of biased pride. My family hails from the Orkneys and are both Pict and Norse. Where would we be without mitochondrial DNA to work all this out?

starzmom
Reply to  Rory Forbes
April 27, 2021 5:06 am

I tell my husband I go to Shetland to find my inner Viking, and then lo and behold, my DNA came back with Orcadian. So I can share some of your biased pride. Otherwise, its mostly Irish and German, like 3/4th of Americans. Dunno where the Orcadian came from. Maybe deep in the English fragment.

But the Vikings are a fascinating peoples–whether they are Vikings or just went a-viking.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  starzmom
April 27, 2021 4:27 am

yeah and like the darkskinned brethren
theres always some of their OWN wiling to sell them to buyers

DonM
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
April 26, 2021 3:39 pm

1) The Uyghur are prisoners first, example second, & forced labor third. (Complaining about what they (Chicoms) do, while really not understanding what they do, emboldens them … it is a cultural thing.)

2) Since the Uyghur, in general, would not cooperate and participate in a low wage work scheme then the expense differential that you reference is meaningless. ‘Profit for a corporation’ is something very different than ‘profit for the Chinese govt’.

Pat from kerbob
Reply to  Rory Forbes
April 26, 2021 8:23 pm

I know people who do business there
Manufacturing labor cost in Shanghai is 80% of USA

So yes, lots of low cost slave labor in the raw materials end of things

Building on that amazing nazi/Soviet model

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Pat from kerbob
April 26, 2021 10:14 pm

Building on that amazing Nazi/Soviet model

Right … that model, the foundation stone of Leftist economics.

The four necessary corrners of Chinese business practice … grease, skim, face and a firm grasp of Confucian philosophy.

lee
April 25, 2021 10:19 pm

But to the greeies it will be “It isn’t here”, “Why worry”.(:(

Reply to  lee
April 26, 2021 5:09 am

FOR DISCUSSION – ASSUME THAT DECADES OF GLOBAL COOLING ARE HAPPENING STARTING ~NOW – WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES?
 
I recently published that my (our) 2002 prediction of global cooling, starting circa 2020, was now demonstrated to be correct – or highly probable.
 
An updated copy of my recent paper is published here:
CLIMATE CHANGE, COVID-19, AND THE GREAT RESET
A Climate, Energy And Covid Primer For Politicians And Media
By Allan M.R. MacRae, April 21, 2021 UPDATE 1c
https://thsresearch.wordpress.com/2021/04/25/climate-change-covid-19-and-the-great-reset/
 
CONCLUSION: Dangerous global cooling will continue, it will be sporadic, moving from continent to continent with the seasons and the polar vortex, and could last for decades.
 
Regards, Allan MacRae
 
THE FUTURE CONSEQUENCES OF GLOBAL COOLING – draft for comments
 
There will be sporadic crop failures around the world as the polar vortex makes repeated excursions onto the continents. Early-season fruits will be hard hit.
 
Global food in storage will shrink. Starvation will again become a serious problem.
 
Production of biofuels like corn ethanol and biodiesel will cease as farmland is needed for food production.
 
Ranching will replace farming as cold regions become colder (eg the Peace River district of Northern Alberta and BC).
 
Life spans will decrease. Excess Winter Deaths will significantly increase. Global population will decline due to cold weather mortality.
 
Winter ground transportation by road and rail will become increasingly difficult due to increased snow buildup. Shipping will be hampered by more winter ice in rivers, lakes and ports.
 
There will be more violent hurricanes and other storms.
 
The fossil-fuel-CO2-driven global warming hypothesis will be rejected as false and fraudulent.
 
Grid-connected green energy will cease as power grids are made more reliable – wind and solar power generation will be disconnected from the grid and de-commissioned, or possibly used to manufacture fuels.
 
Electric cars will not replace internal-combustion automobiles in the next several decades – there will not be enough electrical energy for electric cars, trucks, etc.
 

Last edited 3 months ago by ALLAN MACRAE
ozspeaksup
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
April 27, 2021 4:36 am

hmm appears to be coming this next week downunder
https://www.eldersweather.com.au/news/cut-off-low-on-the-horizon/534005

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
April 26, 2021 10:26 am

MODERN GRAND SOLAR MINIMUM WILL LEAD TO TERRESTRIAL COOLING
Valentina Zharkova 
Published online: 04 Aug 2020
https://thsresearch.files.wordpress.com/2021/04/cc-solar-modern-grand-solar-minimum-2020-2-2.docx
In this editorial I will demonstrate with newly discovered solar activity proxy-magnetic field that the Sun has entered into the modern Grand Solar Minimum (2020–2053) that will lead to a significant reduction of solar magnetic field and activity like during Maunder minimum leading to noticeable reduction of terrestrial temperature.

RE-EVALUATING THE ROLE OF SOLAR VARIABILITY ON NORTHERN HEMISPHERE TEMPERATURE TRENDS SINCE THE 19TH CENTURY
Willie Soon, Ronan Connolly, Michael Connolly
Last updated 11th August 2015
Paper:
http://globalwarmingsolved.com/data_files/SCC2015_preprint.pdf
Data:
http://globalwarmingsolved.com/data_files/SCC2015-SI.zip
A strong correlation is found between these two datasets, implying that solar variability has been the dominant influence on Northern Hemisphere temperature trends since at least 1881. We discuss the significance of this apparent correlation, and its implications for previous studies which have instead suggested that increasing atmospheric carbon dioxide has been the dominant influence.

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
April 27, 2021 4:49 am

EUROPE BRACES FOR EXTREME MAY FREEZE  April 27, 2021
https://electroverse.net/europe-braces-for-extreme-may-freeze/
 
“This will end badly.”

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
April 27, 2021 2:29 pm

I just sent this to many journalists. I call this Treason. USA = same.
 
THE GREAT RESET – PRESENTATION FROM THE BANK OF CANADA
https://www.bankofcanada.ca/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/presentation-2020-08-20.pdf
https://www.bankofcanada.ca/profile/paul-beaudry/

Regards, Allan MacRae in Calgary

LdB
April 25, 2021 10:59 pm

Griff will be along to talk about the polar bears being saved … a few human lives are expendable.

John Dueker
Reply to  LdB
April 25, 2021 11:34 pm

Griffin or Biden?

David Kamakaris
Reply to  John Dueker
April 26, 2021 4:32 am

“Griffin or Biden?”

I’m not sure there’s much difference.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  David Kamakaris
April 26, 2021 5:18 am

“Griffin or Biden?”

I’m not sure there’s much difference.

Griff has no power or influence, that’s he difference.

Davis
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
April 26, 2021 12:43 pm

Neither does the fake president.

starzmom
Reply to  LdB
April 26, 2021 3:58 pm

They have been expended in Svalbard this spring. The bears are on the prowl.

Redge
April 25, 2021 11:44 pm

Solar projects commissioned by the Ministry of Defence, the government’s Coal Authority, United Utilities and some of the UK’s biggest renewable energy developers are using panels made by Chinese solar companies….

Notice the Guardian blames the energy companies and government and not the Greens and the Green press i.e. The Guardian, for foisting useless (in the UK) solar panels on us?

Jit
Reply to  Redge
April 26, 2021 1:01 am

The Guardian, Saturday, 9 p.m.
“Australian smarts and Chinese industrial might made solar power the cheapest power humanity has seen – and no one saw it coming.”

The Guardian, Monday, 2 a.m.
“Revealed: UK solar projects using solar panels from firms linked to Xinjiang forced labour.”

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2021/04/25/guardian-exposes-guardians-chinese-solar-power-propaganda/

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Jit
April 26, 2021 5:19 am

They are so self-unaware it’s scary.

Greg
April 25, 2021 11:49 pm

Installing PV solar in the UK is a complete joke, with the possible exception of Cornwall. There is a descent summer once every 20 years and it only lasts a couple of months. The rest of the time you’ll just be topping up the batteries without producing any exploitable power.

The slightest look at sun-hour stats for the UK rapidly shows it’s a non starter. A total waste of money, time and resources.

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Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Greg
April 26, 2021 1:53 am

Solar panels are a non starter in too many of the places where they are deployed. I took this photo from my hotel window in Dusseldorf, Germany, November 2017. It rained for the five days of my stay.

PVCpanelsDusseldorf.jpg
Climate believer
Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
April 26, 2021 3:54 am

Peak sun hours in most of Germany are on average low, Dusseldorf from November through to end of February is a pretty bleak place as you have witnessed.

The thing is of course is that they don’t care if it works or not as the production of any amount of electricity is guaranteed to be bought, and at four times the going price, “fixed feed-in tariffs” as they’re called.

As of 2021 though these guarantees are coming to an end making the whole scheme much less attractive than it once was.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Greg
April 26, 2021 5:30 am

I live in the tropics in Australia. We get enormous amounts of sunshine 8 months of the year. Unfortunately, it would take at least 6 years to return the investment on solar panels for me. The other costs like inverters and batteries make that maybe 10 years.

And even then, if my house is on fire, they won’t be able to put it out.

The last sales guy around my way didn’t even know that in the capricorn tropics, the sun is in the south as well as the north. Complete dimwits.

It’s a crock.

Alexy Scherbakoff
April 25, 2021 11:56 pm

It’s supposition. All the words in the article and links are ‘suggesting’ that certain things are happening and that it’s all very complex. I’m afraid I can’t see any meat in the sandwich. The whole AGW thing is full of words like that. Particularly from the Guardian.
Are the Uyghers repressed in some fashion? Quite possibly. Making unsubstantiated claims creates good headlines. People are going to believe what they want to believe.

tonyb
Editor
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
April 26, 2021 12:03 am

Yes, but we can extend that to much of the rare earths required for a variety of green products being mined and processed by slaves.

In the caser of the Congo, child ones mining Chinese owned land, processed in a manner that in any other spheres Greens would find totally unacceptable and ending up in everything from solar panels to laptops, Batteries to mobile phones

But we have known all this for years and instead concentrate on examining slavery from 2 centuries ago

tonyb

Alan the Brit
Reply to  tonyb
April 26, 2021 12:25 am

“But we have known all this for years and instead concentrate on examining slavery from 2 centuries ago”

Ah, that’s because it helps perpetuate the bashing of Britain/England in the eyes of the world! No mention of the Greek Empire, the Persian Empire, or the Roman Empire – slaves aplenty under the most brutal of regimes, the French Empire, the Portuguese Empire, the Spanish Empire, etc. they all indulged in slavery & slave trading! Some African tribes benefited very well by raiding interior tribes, capturing men, women, & children, to sell to the British traders, & I dare say other nationals to boot!

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Alan the Brit
April 26, 2021 5:11 am

“Ah, that’s because it helps perpetuate the bashing of Britain/England in the eyes of the world!”

Wasn’t Britain the first or one of the first nations to ban slavery?

tonyb
Editor
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
April 26, 2021 5:46 am

Yes and it cost many millions of pounds to enforce it and many in the Royal Navy lost their lives doing so.

From the list above The Arab traders have been missed out plus numerous African countries who actively used them, not just traded in the including Egypt and Zimbabwe

Several million whiter slaves were taken from the coastal towns of Coastal Britain and Europe by Arab pirates. This seemingly forgotten trade is detailed in the book ‘White Gold.’

tonyb

Earthling2
Reply to  tonyb
April 26, 2021 8:54 am

Indeed! The Berbers of North Africa enslaved more than 2 million Caucasians for the Ottoman/Arab slave trade for hundreds of years, raiding as far north as Iceland. Nobody talks about that…now they try and blame slavery as a recent construct of European civilization, when the whole world has being doing it for ever, and still do. Now it is prisoners, prisoners of conscience or indentured servants, working for slave wages.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_slave_trade

starzmom
Reply to  Earthling2
April 26, 2021 9:02 am

They had a lot of help from the Vikings as well.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Alan the Brit
April 26, 2021 5:36 am

Some African tribes benefited very well by raiding interior tribes, capturing men, women, & children, to sell to the British traders, & I dare say other nationals to boot!

As I understand history, Europeans actually learned slavery from africans.

Drake
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
April 26, 2021 9:58 am

Europeans had their own system, serfdom. Man tied to the lords land, to work for the lord, and also to feed, cloth, house and care for themselves. A way better racket then slavery.

Much like the current income and property taxes in the US and elsewhere.
You NEVER own real estate, you are only “renting” it from the local government. Just don’t pay your property taxes and see what happens.
Since the progressives got the income tax in place, every “working” man has become a “serf” to the federal government.

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  tonyb
April 26, 2021 12:33 am

They are not child slaves in the Congo. Artisanal mines that allow children on-site to make some money scavenging the pickings. Not Chinese mines.

tonyb
Editor
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
April 26, 2021 5:42 am

There have been many reports such as this one

Is your phone tainted by the misery of the 35,000 children in Congo’s mines? | Global development | The Guardian

Amnesty international would also be interested in your take on things. Whether in the artisanal mines or in the big mines-often chinese owned- the conditions are pitiful but it appears that as long it contributes to a glorious green future we can treat our fellow man as we wish

tonyb

Bryan A
Reply to  Eric Worrall
April 26, 2021 9:55 am

Well they ARE Vocational Schools.
Those students are being taught how to work Blindfolded and in Shackles.
First step How to sit quietly
Second step How to stand up
Third step How to walk around

I’m certain that if the drone had X-Ray vision you would have seen them fourth step
How to produce Silicon PV cells blindfolded with your hands shackled behind your back while being whipped

David Hartley
Reply to  Eric Worrall
April 27, 2021 2:26 pm

If one reads the comments someone who actually reads Chinese claims it’s from Inner Mongolia.

Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
April 26, 2021 6:20 am

The Uyghurs should first change the spelling of their name to maybe Weegurs – that would help a lot. There is plenty of evidence that they are being held in slavery…the CCP does not even tolerate Xi Jinping being called Winnie the Pooh.

IAMPCBOB
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
April 26, 2021 12:35 pm

Beyond that fact, there is the one that says they will believe what they are TOLD, by the media and their government!

Simon
April 26, 2021 12:10 am

I’m so confused. Do we believe the Guardian now?

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  Simon
April 26, 2021 12:29 am

For once, I agree with you.

fred250
Reply to  Simon
April 26, 2021 1:22 am

Its all a matter of which gets the most points for leftist virtue seeking !

Graemethecat
Reply to  Simon
April 26, 2021 2:08 am

Liars sometimes tell the truth, albeit unintentionally.

Bryan A
Reply to  Graemethecat
April 26, 2021 9:57 am

Liars need to be truthful at times to make the lies more believable

M Courtney
Reply to  Simon
April 26, 2021 2:11 am

They claim most solar panels were NOT made with slave labour.
So, no.
It looks like a typical positive spin to me.

Wade
Reply to  Simon
April 26, 2021 3:56 am

The rule is you can only believe the media when they tell something that goes against their chosen narrative. Since the Guardian did that, it is believable.

H.R.
Reply to  Wade
April 26, 2021 5:21 am

Unless they are getting ready to change the narrative.

“We have always been at war with East Asia.”
“We have never been at war with East Asia.”

But it’s a good rule of thumb you have, Wade.

Simon
Reply to  Wade
April 26, 2021 12:20 pm

The rule is you can only believe the media when they tell something that goes against their chosen narrative. Since the Guardian did that, it is believable.”
Right so if Fox say Trump is guilty of inciting the Jan riots in Washington, they are telling the truth? It’s all soooo complicated. Can’t we just believe what makes sense?

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Simon
April 26, 2021 5:38 am

I’m so confused. Do we believe the Guardian now?

Stopped clocks are still right twice a day

Bill Toland
Reply to  Simon
April 27, 2021 12:24 am

Simon, unlike climate alarmists, sceptics get their information from a variety of sources.

DonM
Reply to  Simon
April 27, 2021 8:55 am

There’s your problem right there!

You must be in a perpetual state of confusion, because you depend on others to tell you what to believe.

Rational people look at the input, process as it relates to other things that they KNOW (not believe),and judge it’s merit.

Seems that you just want to believe in things, and those specific beliefs are based on who you trust.

Make some changes … you’re life will be better.

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Tom Abbott
Reply to  ren
April 26, 2021 10:32 am

That’s interesting. Is Al Gore over in England?

fretslider
April 26, 2021 2:58 am

Have a look at this on Paul Homewood’s site:

The Guardian Exposes The Guardian’s Chinese Solar Power Propaganda

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2021/04/25/guardian-exposes-guardians-chinese-solar-power-propaganda/

That is what happens when you sack all your decent journalists and replace them with cheaper hacktivists.

The articles actually make perfect sense in that the Guardianistas are experts in doublethink. What they really want is a Chinese style of government, because democracy just gets in the way.

To lift the lockdown, Britain should follow China’s example

So it was not just a lockdown and social distancing that were responsible for bringing down the R0 number in China, but the country’s community surveillance approach.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/10/lift-lockdown-uk-east-asia-coronavirus-pandemic

[Cov]Authoritarianism is all the rage on the left.

Last edited 3 months ago by fretslider
Bsl
Reply to  fretslider
April 26, 2021 3:22 am

Authoritarianism is all the rage on the left.”

Always has been.

fretslider
Reply to  Bsl
April 26, 2021 3:25 am

Strictly speaking no it hasn’t. That came later – in the UK at least.

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Climate believer
Reply to  fretslider
April 26, 2021 7:37 am

Later than what?
Labour has always been in admiration of authoritarian regimes, and control over society.

Measures of Socialist reconstruction must be vigorously pressed forward. That is the task to which Labour will lay its hand.” 1931 manifesto.

Snowden called the party’s 1931 manifesto ‘Bolshevism run mad’ 

We all know what that means.

Joel O’Bryan
April 26, 2021 3:41 am

solar PV installations in the UK are beyond dumb. Seriously, they might produce rated power for about 3 hours in July every year. The rest of the time, they’re harvesting OPM.

Graemethecat
Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
April 26, 2021 5:45 am

Solar panels in the UK are not dumb art all. They are extremely efficient at transforming subsidies into personal wealth, which is their purpose. The electrical energy they produce is completely incidental.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Graemethecat
April 27, 2021 4:42 am

should the last word be: accidental? maybe

Peta of Newark
April 26, 2021 3:48 am

<Enquiring Mind Mode>

Is there something special about silicon for Solar Cells/Panels..

As compared to the silicon (chips) we’re all sitting in front of right now, the silicon in the phones we carry around, the silicon in the Teslas or even the silicon the Grauniad uses in its computers & servers to broadcast its hand-wringing guilt-ridden/inducing Socialist spew.

<end enquiring mind mode>

PS
Next time any pics of Mars appear, have I got A Pic for you….
<begin end Mad Amateur Scientist laughter mode>

Last edited 3 months ago by Peta of Newark
ozspeaksup
Reply to  Eric Worrall
April 27, 2021 4:44 am

i believe that WAS Petas point;-)

ATheoK
April 26, 2021 4:29 am

What matters slavery to the leftist elites?
It is the condition they desire for all of us commoners.

Want people to eat less to no red meat? Cut off the supply.

Historical fish populations are claimed to be “of Concern”?
Elitist scientists claim humans endanger polar bear food sources because the seal have insufficient fish nourishment? Cut off popular fish food sources to the slaves.

Preach that humans should eat more insects? Want to eliminate food waste?
Simple, feed the slaves grains and spoiled vegetables where grubs and bugs form more than 10% of the protein source. As it used to be, so shall it be again.

Want to reduce fossil fuels used for transportation, heat and household electricity?
Build unreliable intermittent electrical generation sources and cut off fossil fuel supplies.

Identify all of the fossil fuel products foolishly used by wasteful commoners?
Plastics, phones, vehicles, tires, household machines like washing machines, mixers and dish washers, heaters, air conditioners, etc. etc.
Then shut off their production and use.
A nearly impossible task when populations are independent and well paid for their labor, but easy when commoner populations are captive slaves.

All for the good of Earth’s populations, of course.

Bruce Cobb
April 26, 2021 5:39 am

Oh, the cognitive dissonance!

RelPerm
April 26, 2021 5:55 am

Biden making sure that future solar panels are made in the USA 🇺🇸 with high paid union jobs. In his mind, climate change actions aren’t about saving earth, they are about good paying union jobs.

Bring back Solyndra from bankruptcy to launder money to political cronies!

Oh, I guess Johnny Kerry may want to buy a few Chinese labor camp solar panels to entice Chinese to be green…

DMacKenzie
April 26, 2021 6:49 am

The plausible but unverifiable “facts” stated by the Guardian are enough to , well, fill a newspaper. So 40% might be 4% or even 0.4%, but 40% is a good unverifiable number that sells clicks…

ResourceGuy
April 26, 2021 7:23 am

Green Colonialism or Gulags

ResourceGuy
April 26, 2021 7:50 am

In the U.S. that comes with income tax credits for projects with Gulag panels and in California that amounts to mandated solar rooftops on new home construction with federal and state tax credits and Gulag labor. On top of all that Biden pledges to add good union jobs in the sordid mix.

Walter Sobchak
April 26, 2021 8:23 am

Doing business with China is like sleeping with dogs.

Quien con perros se echa, con pulgas se levanta.
If you lie down with dogs, you will rise up with fleas.

griff
April 26, 2021 8:48 am

Half of US agricultural workers are illegal immigrants. usually paid at below market rates. I don’t see any of you getting worked up over that.

China is a horrible regime… we should be making our own panels and much else.

ResourceGuy
Reply to  griff
April 26, 2021 9:59 am

There are registered seasonal farm workers who are not illegal and there are fence jumpers. Fence jumpers to get in as opposed to fences and guard towers in Chinese “vo-tech” camps to stay in for the “ultimate solution” branded solar panels for the UK.

Bryan A
Reply to  griff
April 26, 2021 10:02 am

Trump tried to quell the supply of illegal immigrant labor and look where that got him!!

Drake
Reply to  griff
April 26, 2021 10:21 am

In the free enterprise system, there is no such thing “below market rates”. The rates are WHAT THE MARKET WILL BARE.

Of course the crony capitalists and their leftist cronies in the US want the wages to be kept LOW, that is why they want to keep the southern border OPEN!

Under TRUMP!, the lowest wage earners wages went up the fastest, due to limiting the cheap illegal alien labor force’s influence on wages.

And, from the BBC, look at the LAST 2 CHARTS:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-45827430

Of course without the CHINA virus, the upward tracts would have been ever increasing under TRUMP!

Climate believer
Reply to  griff
April 26, 2021 12:54 pm

That’s false equivalence, and considering the degree of aggressive forced labour, intrusive government surveillance and political indoctrination by the CCP towards the Uyghurs you might want to be a little less glib about it.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Eric Worrall
April 27, 2021 4:46 am

hmm tell that to the girls in whorehouses?

Michael S. Kelly
Reply to  Eric Worrall
April 28, 2021 8:02 pm

And the Uyghurs don’t risk their lives to sneak into a Chinese slave labor camp. Just sayin’.

Pat from kerbob
Reply to  griff
April 26, 2021 9:06 pm

A new low Griff

You’re a Brit right? Isn’t there a mass of cheap eastern euro temp labor brought in every year to do the same function in Britain ?

Anon
April 26, 2021 9:42 am

The Uyghur issue is all smoke and mirrors, right of the DoS and Intelligence Community playbook:

Leaked memo schooled Tillerson on human rights

“Allies should be treated differently—and better—than adversaries. Otherwise, we end up with more adversaries, and fewer allies,” argued the memo, written by Tillerson’s influential policy aide, Brian Hook.

Hook’s memo “tells Tillerson that we should do exactly what Russian and Chinese propaganda says we do—use human rights as a weapon to beat up our adversaries while letting ourselves and our allies off the hook,” said Tom Malinowski

In relation to our competitors, there is far less of a dilemma. We do not look to bolster America’s adversaries overseas; we look to pressure, compete with, and outmaneuver them,” Hook wrote.

“For this reason,” Hook continues, “we should consider human rights as an important issue in regard to U.S. relations with China, Russia, North Korea, and Iran. And this is not only because of moral concern for practices inside those countries. It is also because pressing those regimes on human rights is one way to impose costs, apply counter-pressure, and regain the initiative from them strategically.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/19/tillerson-state-human-rights-304118

And if you think Climate Change is about saving the world from a catastrophe, think again:

Angela Merkel and the Insult of Trump’s Paris Climate-Accord Withdrawal

Angela Merkel, at her press conference (about Trump leaving the Paris Climate Accord), said, “This Paris climate accord is not just some accord or the other. It is a central accord in defining the contours of globalization.”

https://www.newyorker.com/news/amy-davidson/angela-merkel-and-the-insult-of-trumps-paris-climate-accord-withdrawal

I don’t think we can take any of what we are being told by the government at face value. To discern the “truth”, it is all about the “fine print” and reading between the lines. IMHO

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Michael in Dublin
April 26, 2021 9:43 am

Just imagine the UK buying goods from Hitler manufactured by Jews in their prison camps. There is not a smidgen of honesty in the claim of British politicians to care about human rights. They only care when they can get some political mileage out of a situation. This is despicable hypocrisy.

ResourceGuy
Reply to  Michael in Dublin
April 26, 2021 10:04 am

Exactly!

Richard Page
Reply to  Michael in Dublin
April 26, 2021 1:42 pm

Before you get hot under the collar about this being a problem with UK politicians – remember that the N.Y. Times has already broken the story that MOST of the solar panels and solar panel materials used in the US and EU (Ireland included) have been linked to Uighur slave labour. So it’s Irish, US, German, French, Spanish, Canadian et al’s despicable hypocrisy as well.

Pat from kerbob
Reply to  Richard Page
April 26, 2021 9:03 pm

Canada for sure, our Liberal party has been building ties with the CCP for 5 decades, going back further to Bethune keeping the party on its feet until victory.

None of the other countries have anything on us

ResourceGuy
April 26, 2021 10:17 am

So not just NIMBY but now NIMBYS (with slaves)

ResourceGuy
April 26, 2021 10:32 am

What do I hear for this fine young slave? one ton of solar cells or two? They are worth their weight in solar tax credits for your grand estate.

ResourceGuy
April 26, 2021 10:40 am

Do people really believe Chris Hewett?

Kevin Stall
April 26, 2021 10:45 am

Germany lost half of their green jobs to China. Hard to compete with slave labor.

ResourceGuy
April 26, 2021 10:48 am

From opium to renewable energy components….Who is the addict now?

History of opium in China – Wikipedia

ResourceGuy
April 26, 2021 11:05 am

But, But, they’re green slave jobs.

ResourceGuy
April 26, 2021 1:27 pm

The guard towers and high fences are designed to protect workers from COVID19 derived from imported frozen seafood. /sarc

PCman999
April 26, 2021 8:46 pm

The econazis are not going to care about what their cousins in China are doing to people, they hate people too. But watch their heads explode when they find out it takes more coal than silicon to make a solar panel!

ozspeaksup
April 27, 2021 4:24 am

ROFLMAO!! really stuffs up the virtue signalling “exceptionals” doesn’t it?
word about RE slowly getting out to them too
going to be very hard to justify themselves…but Im sure someone can/will do the mind twisting needed to make it all nice clean green and “special” again

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