Next Doomsday “Crisis”: GLOBAL WATER SHORTAGE…Meat Lockdown Needed, Potsdam Scientist Suggests

Reposted from the NoTricksZone

By P Gosselin on 20. April 2021

The COVID crisis worked wonderfully for the cheerleaders and addicts of lockdowns. It showed that it was indeed possible to panic the pubic enough to get them to accept restrictions and lockdowns.

WANTED: NEW CRISIS TO SUCCEED COVID 19

But everyone knows that the days are numbered for the COVID crisis, and so another crisis will be needed if the wonderful lockdowns and restrictions are to continue. But the “climate crisis” is just so old and much of public just isn’t buying it. Another crisis is needed to fan the flames of panic and to keep liberty at bay.

What could it be?

One crisis now circulating is the “global water crisis”. That, in combination with the global warming crisis, of course is leading to mass crop failures, thirst and later mass starvation in hundreds of millions, unless we act (lockdown) now.

In a brand new interview, yet another balding European doomsday scientist is warning we are now in the midst of a global water crisis – and of course time is running out and fundamental changes need to be enacted rapidly, among them a meat lockdown.

In a new interview, Potsdam Climate Institute (PIK) researcher, Prof. Dr. Dieter Gerten says the “increasing water shortage” is due to population growth and of course “climate change”.

Signs of course are forest fires in California and Oregon caused by severe drought. And using just three years of below normal rainfall as scientific evidence, even Germany is allegedly drying out, Gerten suggests.

Warmer means drier?

Gerten warns that even with a global warming of just 2 degrees, water shortages in some regions would worsen significantly. Never mind what experts like the NOAA claim – omething Gerten avoids mentioning.

For Europe, Gerten is predicting much wetter winters, and extremely drier summers, and warns this will have dire consequences for agriculture.

Water as a human right

As a solution, Gerten cited Peter Gleick in suggesting a new integrated eco-system management and water ethic that views water as a human right.

To limit evaporation from agricultural land, Gerten suggests covering croplands with straw to hold in the moisture. Another solution is rainwater harvesting in ponds for use during dry periods. “Field studies show that crop yields can be doubled, or even quadrupled, simply by using water better, ” Gerten explains.

Why do PIK scientists know this, and farmers don’t?

“Not long ago, we calculated globally that if such measures were implemented on all existing agricultural land, then we would find massive production increases everywhere that is colored green (17:42) […] yields would increase without having to use one drop of water more.”

Gerten warns that climate change is going to make food far more difficult, especially in the red-colored regions (20:50) due to more heat and drought.

Veggie diet can save 40% water

Later Gerten suggests that the water crisis could be in large part averted by humans adopting a vegetarian diet, which according to one study (Vanham et al 2016) requires some 40% less water for food production.

That’s the aim: to turn everyone into vegetarians. The meat lockdown is in the pipeline.

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dk_
April 21, 2021 2:10 am

Not an agronomist, not an economist, not a dietician, not a medical doctor or biologist, has published on “religious science,” doesn’t understand the concept of a “human right” except as a gift granted by a hierarchical social system. What could possibly go wrong?

Alan the Brit
Reply to  dk_
April 21, 2021 2:30 am

I was always brought up with the parental view that I always had rights, but being Christians, they also added that such rights always came with a responsibility!!!!

Reply to  dk_
April 21, 2021 7:30 am

The Dieter Diet will be good for you…and Mother Nature – just eat it and zip it.

Reply to  Anti-griff
April 21, 2021 8:01 am

The guy is not wearing the aluminum foil hat properly – supposed to be pulled down securely over eyes and ears.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Anti-griff
April 21, 2021 8:14 am

It has to be real tin, aluminum doesn’t work.

Oldseadog
April 21, 2021 2:18 am

” ….. yeilds would increase without having to use one drop of water more.”
Isn’t more CO2 doing that already?

Oldseadog
Reply to  Oldseadog
April 21, 2021 6:44 am

yields, even.

Mr.
Reply to  Oldseadog
April 21, 2021 8:45 am

Yeah but that more CO2 is human CO2, which everyone knows is not the same as natural CO2, and so it doesn’t make the bigger crops more nutritious or tasty or anything.

TonyG
Reply to  Oldseadog
April 21, 2021 12:25 pm

Seems to me that if yields would increase that much, farmers would be doing it simply because they would make more profit. Could it possibly be yields wouldn’t increase by enough to offset the costs?

Oh, there’s that nasty “cost” word again…

Rich Davis
Reply to  TonyG
April 21, 2021 3:49 pm

All you have to do is place each plant into its own individual greenhouse enclosure with a small climate control device that can be operated on solar power, the cheapest energy in history. The cost of raising a carrot is less than 50€ (under optimum conditions of course).

M Courtney
April 21, 2021 2:25 am

, and so another crisis will be needed if the wonderful lockdowns and restrictions are to continue.

Why would anyone who makes their living off taxation want lockdowns and restrictions to continue?

Sceptics, spot the crazy.

fretslider
Reply to  M Courtney
April 21, 2021 3:43 am

Middle class, comfortable and working at home in a secure job. Who would miss a commute?

Don’t worry, the working classes at Amazon are still delivering…

Redge
Reply to  fretslider
April 21, 2021 8:11 am

Don’t worry, the working classes deplorables at Amazon are still delivering…

Richard (the cynical one)
Reply to  M Courtney
April 21, 2021 5:53 am

Maybe those whose profession is to make a living off taxation don’t see that a profitable tax base is a necessary part of the deal. Or maybe the intense satisfaction of controlling the unwashed masses is a more addictive drug, and addicts can be destructive to themselves and others.

H.R.
Reply to  Richard (the cynical one)
April 21, 2021 6:29 am

You’ve got that right, Richard, because they have quit pretending to spend tax revenue and are just printing trillions of dollars here in the U.S. That’s evidence that all your points are spot on.

It always ends badly.

Alan the Brit
April 21, 2021 2:26 am

I’m sure I read somewhere from an official source (ish) that today we produce enough food in the world (via the evil wicked debauched & corrupt free-enterprise system) to feed around 7 billion people, therefore the issue seems to be one of distribution, & NOT production! Also, a warmer world will have more moisture in the atmosphere suggesting that statistically, more rain should fall somewhere (probably in the UK)! 😉 Can anyone tell me, is the Sun still burning hotter & brighter than at any time in the last 12,000 years, according to Sami Olanki et al (2011) from the Max Plank Institute, Germany? I know it’s probably entered a new grand Solar minimum assuming sunspot activity is a measure of such phenomena!

Wade
Reply to  Alan the Brit
April 21, 2021 5:19 am

Not 7 billion, 11 billion people.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Wade
April 21, 2021 11:01 pm

Well what are “they” worrying about! And don’t we have desalination plants using that very limited resource of 70% of the Earth’s surface being covered in water?

starzmom
Reply to  Alan the Brit
April 21, 2021 7:45 am

Not only do we produce plenty of food now, but here in the US we actually pay farmers not to grow crops in some places and under some circumstances. Much agricultural land has been taken out of production, and could be put back in easily if needed.

Drake
Reply to  starzmom
April 21, 2021 9:29 am

And don’t forget the food crops converted to fuel that could feed millions more.

April 21, 2021 2:52 am

Potsdam is not what it used to be under Friedrich der Große.

Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
April 21, 2021 3:28 am

Good point and fully agree. In general universities appear to have sold out to the climate activism game probably because of the amount of research funding available. Here is a review of a potsdam research paper I did some time ago.

https://tambonthongchai.com/2020/05/22/potsdam-institute-of-climate/

Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
April 21, 2021 9:44 am

I’m asking if these guys in Potsdam got anything “right” since they exist?
Can’t remember

Ron Long
April 21, 2021 3:19 am

Good reporting, P Gosselin. The story shows two sides of the CAGW claims, that the sea level will rise (more water) and the croplands will be drier (less water). This skips over the warmer is wetter cycle involving ocean water evaporation and transport to land areas and depositing it as rain or snow. So, let’s help the process along by constructing nuclear pebble-bed reactors all along the coastal areas and desalinate the sea water, and pipe it to wherever it is needed. Win-win. Sea level goes down and more potable water is available for people and agriculture.

Drake
Reply to  Ron Long
April 21, 2021 9:35 am

Where will all the workers come from? With all the inept college graduates with degrees being paid NOT TO WORK, why would they get their hands dirty doing manual labor?

The old adage, a rising tide lifts all boats applies to MORE people doing productive work produces more of everything for everyone. In the US, the current group in control believes in a zero sum game, there is X out there and there will be no more, so pay people to sit home, or better yet, to go out and riot.

ozspeaksup
April 21, 2021 3:35 am

anyone told this doofus that putting ponds or dams on farmland is frowned upon/banned BY his greentard besties?
might upset the ..pick anything from wildlife to rivers/oceans bugs whatever

fred250
Reply to  ozspeaksup
April 21, 2021 4:32 am

If Australia has fresh water issues, the reason becomes obvious when you look at storage capacity built per decade…

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Now who has put the brake on building much needed dams.. eg Welcome Reef, Mitchell River, Tillegra.

The Far-Left socialist greenie psuedo-environmentalists continue to cause MUCH HARM to the prosperity of human kind..

Michael in Dublin
Reply to  fred250
April 21, 2021 7:02 am

It is interesting that by far the largest increase in storage capacity in South Africa was between 1970 and 1980. Since 1994 the graph has nearly flatlined barely above the x-axis. Two more recent dams in Lesotho – a country surrounded by South Africa – should not be included in this list.

The main dam supplying Port Elizabeth (population over 1.1 million) is at 4.8% and is too low to supply any water to the city. The biggest problems are incompetence, corruption and the lack of foresight of the members of the metro council. Water is not the problem but people are!

https://www.wikiwand.com/en/List_of_dams_in_South_Africa

shortie of greenbank
Reply to  fred250
April 21, 2021 6:31 pm

It isn’t any surprise that left-wing labor won power in Qld and in the late 80s and put to bed any further building of dams because ‘we won’t need to think about this for 40 years’. 2006 we were desperate for rain in the catchments, so they looked to the expert who claimed we wouldn’t need a new dam in the area for 40 years to head up a commission to look into how to fix the problem. Corruption and incompetence do seem to go hand in hand on the left side over here.

Mr.
Reply to  ozspeaksup
April 21, 2021 8:55 am

When I dug a 2nd dam on my property (without getting local greenie council permission) I was told that “more dams don’t make it rain”.

My response was that yes, but when it does rain I will collect twice as much water, so then when the next dry spell comes, I will have 2 half-full dams instead of one, which will see me through.

dk_
April 21, 2021 3:39 am

Burning hydrocarbons results in mainly H2O and CO2, with a bunch of other minor parts. Burning a single Methane CH4, as in natural gas for example, produces two molecules of water vapor and one molecule of CO2. Fossil fuels add water vapor to the atmosphere, enhancing the hydrologic cycle by returning these materials to their original state.

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GrantLR
Reply to  dk_
April 23, 2021 6:12 am

Maybe that’s why the alarmists want to stop it… to try to dry humanity out…

Starting to think that the meaning of “environmentalist” post-1960 is actually “anti-humanist.”

fretslider
April 21, 2021 3:41 am

“The COVID crisis worked wonderfully for the cheerleaders and addicts of lockdowns. It showed that it was indeed possible to panic the public enough to get them to accept restrictions and lockdowns”.

Or fine them exceedingly heavily if they dare to object to the restrictions and lockdowns. That certainly helped to ‘persuade people’.

Interestingly, some protests were permitted and others were not. BLM, XR etc were allowed to get on with it – even to throw a statue into the river Avon, opponents of lockdown, however, found themselves harrassed, arrested and fined.

Since when has an Earth Modelling Coordinator been an expert on biological systems and nutrition? That’s their usual cris de coeur, is it not – not qualified to speak.

I happen to know all the available evidence indicates that the natural human diet is omnivorous and includes meat. Does Gerten understand the consequences of his ideological push for vegetarianism in terms of fractured bones and dental health issues?

Unlikely – as they say.

starzmom
Reply to  fretslider
April 21, 2021 7:51 am

Not just bones and teeth. High quality protein is necessary for brain development and maintenance. Maybe some of us eat too much meat, but powering and feeding a brain requires not just calories but also the amino acids, fatty acids and other lipids in animal protein.

starzmom
Reply to  starzmom
April 21, 2021 8:16 am

On second thought, maybe that is part of the plan–deprive the population of animal protein and dumb them down.

shortie of greenbank
Reply to  starzmom
April 21, 2021 6:49 pm

There is such a thing as too much protein, if in the absence of fat often called rabbit starvation that happened to artic explorers who caught and ate rabbits, had plenty to eat but still died of starvation, we are not great converters of protein to energy but a diet high on fat is quite fine but you do need protein as well. there is NO requirement for carbohydrates in the diet but even animal foods can contain trace amounts or decent amounts of carbs (like milk for example).

The nitrogen 15 (N15) data indicated that we ate mostly animal sourced foods for the last hundreds of thousands of years, N15 being more commonly found in animal proteins compared to N14 in plants. Our historic levels were so high it ended up higher than many other carnivores indicating how much we targeted animal sources and that even other carnivores were perfectly acceptable sources of nourishment.

For that matter high intake of grains and vegetable oils existed one other time in history, during the egyptian dynasties where autopsies on the mummies indicated high calcification of arteries still visible even once the arteries themselves have disappeared. This existed the entire length of time with cases reported from all periods during this time where they ate this diet. They barely ate any animal foods though.

Back to protein though, if getting enough fat from say a steak or chop from an animal then there isn’t much of an issue of too much protein unless you have a specific genetic issue.

Lrp
Reply to  fretslider
April 21, 2021 11:32 am

Gerten is just another overeducated idiot, even presuming to give practical advice on farming practice. And now he’s become an expert in agriculture not just climate sceance.

Joseph Zorzin
April 21, 2021 3:45 am

Meanwhile, “Biden assembled an all-star climate team. Now he has to deliver.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-assembled-an-all-star-climate-team-now-he-has-to-deliver/ar-BB1fSQQj

2hotel9
April 21, 2021 4:11 am

If every human on the planet were to become vegetarians it would take far more what and chemicals to feed them than we are currently using. What a bunch of morons.

Jim Gorman
Reply to  2hotel9
April 21, 2021 4:34 am

That was exactly my thought. Protein from meat is much more dense than that from vegetables. At least that’s what my dietician told me. Eat your meat first, then veggies, then carbs.

TonyG
Reply to  Jim Gorman
April 21, 2021 12:33 pm

From what I’ve read, eating meat was the first step, then cooking it the second step*, toward being able to evolve brains capable of rational thought, due to the availability of abundant fuel for such a brain.

I think that might be hinting at something about the modern anti-meat movement…

(* note: whoever came up with the idea of SMOKING meat was one of humanity’s greatest geniuses)

Abolition Man
Reply to  TonyG
April 21, 2021 1:22 pm

TonyG,
Just tried brisket in my new, bio-mass smoker; and I agree wholeheartedly!
Besides preventing spoilage and discouraging insects, it’s hard to beat the variety of flavors it is possible to create with modern smokers!
As a hat tip to fred250 and our other Aussie mates, I think I’ll try a leg of lamb with some fresh rosemary and extra cherrywood as my next endeavor!

shortie of greenbank
Reply to  Jim Gorman
April 21, 2021 7:11 pm

Bio-availability is clearly different between animal and plant sources. the best animal source is eggs though with near on 100% availability, slightly better than meats and dairy and a long way better than plants that normally give incomplete proteins anyway.

Then there is the issue that the plant doesn’t want to be digestible to the animal and has all kinds of pesticides and mechanisms inside to affect the health of the animal over time. Plant lectins, oxalic acid, phytates etc are great examples of these defenses. the lectins can seriously damage our intestinal mucus lining (gluten that contains the lectin gliadin is such an example), help cause leaky gut and if it passes through our gut due to the leaky gut and trigger an immune response often leading to auto-immune conditions (hashimotos and its link to gluten is one such condition). Lectins have also been tracked travelling up the vagus nerve on the stomach to the brain and those same lectins found at the sites of damaged tissue in the brain of parkinsons sufferers. This is consistent with trials in dogs where they could reliably give parkinsons to dogs by feeding them peas or a 45% reduction in parkinsons in those who had a vagoscopy (vagus nerve disconnection) procedure, now the reason it wasn’t 100% is probably due to the operation already being done on people who were well into adulthood thus damage was probably already done.

Oxalic acid will actively bind with minerals making oxalate crystals. These small sharp objects can damage cells or build up in tissue only to be dumped at time with low consumption of oxalic acid (which for some may never happen). Studies even in the 70s clearly showed that eating mineral rich foods in the preferred elemental form such as elemental zinc such as the 1979 study that showed that foods very high in elemental zinc like oysters can have their absorption reduced or even blocked by plant foods, in this case reduced with black beans and essentially stopped with corn tortillas.

This didn’t mean ancient peoples did not eat plants but if they were to eat seeds they would do a combination of the sprouting, fermenting, soaking, long cooking etc to a much higher standard that what we see in the way these same foods are served today, hence corn that is actually high in B1 has for be fortified with B1 as none of it is bio-available.

Spetzer86
Reply to  2hotel9
April 21, 2021 5:35 am

Don’t assume that the end goal of any Green program is to make life better / easier for anyone. Always remember, to them, there are several billion more people around than there needs to be.

2hotel9
Reply to  Spetzer86
April 21, 2021 6:00 pm

Yes, and yet they never eliminate themselves, always time for someone else to die instead.

Richard Page
Reply to  2hotel9
April 21, 2021 1:33 pm

Aside from the obvious issues with vegetables, I found out that fake meat (the healthy green option, apparently) has a bigger carbon footprint than the meat it is trying to replace. All in all, it’s a bit of an own goal on that front.

2hotel9
Reply to  Richard Page
April 21, 2021 6:01 pm

All green “solutions” are worse than the “problem” they claim to want to solve.

LdB
Reply to  2hotel9
April 21, 2021 5:51 pm

I love the lefty concept that just because you were born you are somehow entitled to some percentage of the world resources … it goes from food, water right thru to wealth.

alacran
April 21, 2021 4:27 am

The Potsdam Institute is a nest of thermageddonites secreting ridiculous claims like: “it gets colder, because it’s getting warmer!”

Editor
April 21, 2021 4:28 am

it was indeed possible to panic the pubic enough

Are you certain about that? 🙂

2hotel9
Reply to  Ric Werme
April 21, 2021 6:02 pm

There are many ways to panic the pubic.

Doug Huffman
April 21, 2021 4:34 am

Come on over to my house for a drink of water, on an Island in 1,200 cubic miles of potable water.

fred250
April 21, 2021 4:48 am

“leading to mass crop failures,”

.
Mostly from COLD and FROST !!

fred250
April 21, 2021 4:50 am

“One crisis now circulating is the “global water crisis”. That, in combination with the global warming crisis, of course is leading to mass crop failures, thirst and later mass starvation in hundreds of millions”

.
OUTRIGHT LIES is all they seem to have left. !!

The Dark Lord
April 21, 2021 4:53 am

good lord the one thing we’ll never run out of is water … he actually thinks drinking water eliminates it forever …

TonyG
Reply to  The Dark Lord
April 21, 2021 12:35 pm

He needs to watch the opening scene of Waterworld

Abolition Man
Reply to  TonyG
April 21, 2021 1:24 pm

Nah, really punish him! Make him watch the whole damn thing!

2hotel9
Reply to  Abolition Man
April 21, 2021 6:03 pm

Followed by The Postman!

Loren C. Wilson
April 21, 2021 4:54 am

If we had affordable electricity we could recycle water or desalinate. Also, as agricultural techniques improve across the world, water usage is reduced.

fretslider
Reply to  Loren C. Wilson
April 21, 2021 5:18 am

“Giving society cheap, abundant energy would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine gun.”  —Dr. Paul Ehrlich, Anne Ehrlich, and Dr. John Holdren, Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment, 1970, p. 323

AWG
Reply to  fretslider
April 21, 2021 7:17 am

Oddly enough the Ehrlichs would be in danger from the mob for uttering the word “idiot”. It isn’t the “idiot” I’m worried about, for there are plenty of idiots running around out there, its the amoral person with the machine gun and an identity crisis we should be more concerned about.

Abolition Man
Reply to  fretslider
April 21, 2021 1:26 pm

One of the best examples of self-projection ever recorded!

Duane
April 21, 2021 5:00 am

Looking globally, not regionally, it is illogical to assume that a warmer “climate” (as if there is one single climate for the planet) will produce dryer air. Warmer climate means greater mass of water vapor in the atmosphere, which means a wetter climate. We all know, or should know, that when the earth has been cooler it has also been dryer, and vice versa.

In any event, food production is not a static output of any given condition of the climate, since it varies tremendously with both farming practices as well as evolving technology. The tech includes development of disease resistant and insect resistant and drought resistant food crops; improved water distribution with reduced losses to evaporation; improved plants that do a better job of converting sunlight and CO2 into plant food and therefore plant mass; improved storage and distribution of food crops to reduce spoilage and wastage; etc. etc. etc.

Frank from NoVA
April 21, 2021 5:03 am

Why do so many awful ideas in the realm of political-philosophy originate in Germany? Could there be something in the water?

fretslider
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
April 21, 2021 5:19 am

Sauerkraut

Mr.
Reply to  fretslider
April 21, 2021 9:31 am

Sauerkraut gets recycled into the air.
Unfortunately.

Reply to  fretslider
April 21, 2021 9:50 am

Sauerkraut is very healthy, lot of vitamine C !
In earlier times, for sailors it was live saving.
But hte thinking is an old one still alive, “the world shall be healed by the german way”



Abolition Man
Reply to  Krishna Gans
April 21, 2021 1:32 pm

Especially healthy in a nice fat Reuben sandwich, although I do prefer a spicy mustard to the traditional Russian dressing!

shortie of greenbank
Reply to  Krishna Gans
April 21, 2021 9:34 pm

Unfortunately the sailors and explorers later went to rely on citrus juice not realising that the citrus form degrades quite quickly (like most plant vitamins this is not a complete vitamin, the body has to process it to make proper vitamin c). Most of their crews died of scurvy following this logic. Virtually no vit c and a high carb diet (ships biscuits) means the glut 4 transporter is being saturated with glucose making what little vit c (and you need so very little of it the study done on conscientious objectors found less than 10mg a day will easily keep scurvy away or perhaps even cure it not the 70-90mg they recommend as a minimum these days… and this study was on a high carb diet).

To cure troops of scurvy they were fed fresh horse meat and one artic explorer forgot the common wisdom of taking citrus with him and instead loaded up on what he liked which was meat and it was found that scurvy was drastically reduced in his team as a result.

Right-Handed Shark
Reply to  fretslider
April 21, 2021 10:15 am

Guessing at what they must have been as children I would say brat-worst..

Lrp
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
April 21, 2021 11:41 am

They’ve lost the gift of free thought, and now they are prone to group mostly.

Richard Page
April 21, 2021 5:04 am

Potsdam Institute – stopped reading right at that point. They have form…..

Patrick MJD
April 21, 2021 5:12 am

Yeah, sure. You try to convince the continent of Africa to go vegetarian. Good luck with that.

shortie of greenbank
Reply to  Patrick MJD
April 21, 2021 9:36 pm

Bill Gates is trying…. also tried vaccines that made african girls infertile too. Tetanus injections every year but only for child bearing age women…. nothing suss.

very old white guy
April 21, 2021 5:25 am

I want to see them grow veggies without water.

April 21, 2021 5:25 am

“covering croplands with straw”

does he know how that would be accomplished?

fretslider
Reply to  billtoo
April 21, 2021 5:47 am

Surely it’s a fire risk….

Zigmaster
April 21, 2021 5:29 am

I am always amazed when people fantasise about a water shortage especially in Australia. In Petra in Jordan the ancient civilisation 2000+ years ago designed its houses with guttering that would link up to a drainage system to a central cistern to supply the town with water. 2000 years later in Australia we allow water to flow from our houses into storm water drains and out to sea.In the last 100 years even though the population of our state Victoria has doubled we have not built any new dams and any attempts have been thwarted by Greenies. Then the climate alarmists came along and following drought conditions around 2005-8 we decided to spend billions on a desal plant and it hasn’t stopped raining since.Most other states did the same and except for Western Australia I don’t think any of the plants have been turned on.
The issue of water security in Australia has been woefully managed and if even a small amount of the money ploughed into renewables was diverted we could go a long way to solving any water shortage concerns permanently.

Alan M
Reply to  Zigmaster
April 21, 2021 6:41 am

No, Western Australia built desal plants and plan more.
I agree water security is Aus is woefully managed mainly because it’s managed by the wrong people (organistions)

Alan M
Reply to  Zigmaster
April 21, 2021 6:43 am

Sorry misread your statement

2hotel9
Reply to  Zigmaster
April 21, 2021 6:08 pm

Here in US we have states taxing people for the amount of water their gutters collect, and more if you catch it and use it. Leftard, it is an apt description of these kinds of morons.

shortie of greenbank
Reply to  Zigmaster
April 21, 2021 9:42 pm

It wasn’t the greens that stopped dams being built in Victoria but Labor and its links to unions and the union bosses companies that did so, the greens were a handy scapegoat.

Who do you think got the contract to build those multi-billion dollar wastes of resources called desal plants down there? The companies were owned by union bosses and to make sure this went ahead the viable dam was legislated by Labor out of the race by them forcibly and suddenly naming the proposed site a ‘protected site’ with no benefit of an impact statement.

They could have also run a pipeline for a fraction of the cost from tasmanian’s north-west massive outflows to a Melbourne dam to keep it topped up, again not going to happen when Labor and grift are about.

Peta of Newark
April 21, 2021 5:35 am

There’d be plenty (fresh) water for absolutely *EVERYBODY* if the soil organic material was put back in its proper place. In the soil as it ‘appens.
Some of it is floating around in the sky. Let it be.

Grind up some basalt, spread it around and then melt some limestone and chalk.
Ol’ Ma Nature will do the rest

The Climate would be nice and temperate/moderate too.
Quote me on that.

Scaring the shit out of everybody, as UK Government is so proud of doing is gonna get quite the contrary result to what they want.
From the folks who haven’t , literally, been scared to de4th.
Hence the sky high per-capita Covid rate in the UK
They do it via the Office of Statistics, the BBC and the perfectly dysfunctional Behaviour Insights Team (BIT)
The BITs did good eh not?

Something concerning water came in here, just this morn in fact, from California Ag-Net

Adds to the Global Woes started by the freezings of Germany and France, eh what?
I Don’t Care. Sorry.
Ne Pas Un Single Toss

Apart from the list of affected ‘foods’ on their grotesquely red-coloured map
None of that shyte, apart from the onions & garlic maybe, are worth eating.

Nutrient-free water-filled (and fibre which removes any nutrients that were in there) junk that was never intended for the likes of us Human Types.

And they’re worried about water…..
Gimme, give us all, a break

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LurkerPete
April 21, 2021 5:49 am

Overpopulation you say? Nope

Empty Planet: Preparing for the Global Population Decline
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSAgHvETNSg

Need a new crisis you say? Well they’re already working on it, Heir Klaus calls it a “Cyber Pandemic”
https://www.weforum.org/projects/cyber-polygon

As if the banksters are going to take any of the blame for crashing the global financial system off the back of all the debasement they’ve been doing for years, when annoymous “hackers” can be blamed, I bet they’re from N. Korea or Iran (since Russia is running the ‘live exercise’ Cyber polygon on July 9th this yr.

Good thing they’re all rolling out their Central Bank Digital Currency and planning crypto rollout (UK is calling theirs ‘stablecoin’) Lagarde says the EU version will be rolled out mid decade, China & Russia recently rolled their out.

This will give an indepth view of it all, note the players and their backgrounds, looks like digital currency meets digital ID and social credit, handy their new digital passports have the turnkey solution already!

https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/02/investigative-reports/from-event-201-to-cyber-polygon-the-wefs-simulation-of-a-coming-cyber-pandemic/

People won’t accept it you say? They will if it’s the only way to get their ‘Universal Basic Income’

Goodbye black economy, hello social credit, and digital slavery!

2hotel9
Reply to  LurkerPete
April 21, 2021 6:30 pm

The more this crap is pushed the bigger the black market gets, not to mention how so many hackers are undermining the “new” economy. The future, of crime, is looking bright.

Lurker Pete
Reply to  2hotel9
April 22, 2021 5:59 am

And when (not if) they make it illegal for exchanges to convert any ‘non-state’ crypto into legal tender… QED.

the list is already growing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_bitcoin_by_country_or_territory

Teddy Lee
April 21, 2021 6:03 am

Why are they all Mann lookalikes?

Sara
Reply to  Teddy Lee
April 21, 2021 7:56 am

Clones.

Anthony
April 21, 2021 6:05 am

Well, if there is going to be a water shortage then my home town of Manchester,England should be the richest place on the planet….

John Pickens
April 21, 2021 6:25 am

These people hate meat not because of food shortage or climate change, they just think that killing tasty animals is wrong, and will find any and all means to reduce or prevent its production.

What the writers of the article don’t allow for is that goat , pork, and beef production (the predominant meats consumed in the world) convert lower quality grasses, grains, and agricultural byproducts into useful nutrition for people.

When you see a hay field, or grazing land for goats and cattle, you are seeing a much less intensive agricultural resource requirement for a given human benefit than direct vegetable and grain production for human consumption. The ruminant gut is an amazing benefit to mankind, taking low grade celulosic material, and converting it into microbial mass and byproducts which cows and goats can live off of.

If these people were worried about potable water and water for agriculture, they would be pressing for means to increase supply, such as reservoirs and nuclear powered desalination plants, instead of the Erlichian/Holdrinian desire to reduce water demand by eliminating the human population.

gringojay
Reply to  John Pickens
April 21, 2021 8:20 am

I don’t hate on meat, although personally don’t eat any, & have no issue with those who eat it.

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Clyde Spencer
Reply to  John Pickens
April 21, 2021 9:18 am

Also, range animals can and do take themselves to natural surface water supplies. Sometimes we have to supplement this by putting stock ponds or small dams in place, but it isn’t something that wild animals haven’t had to deal with since they first evolved.

Michael in Dublin
April 21, 2021 6:36 am

Three thousand and more years ago people responded to a severe water crisis by innovation like digging cisterns in the driest areas and adapting.

Only a fool today thinks he can play God and engineer better climate zones for the world. A wise man takes what he can get and adapts.

As I have said on this website before there are many areas that alternate between drought and flooding – too little and too much water. Only a small percentage of the flood needs to be captured and stored for the dry seasons. This can be done at a small fraction of the exorbitant cost of foolishly trying to engineer climate.

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mtntim
April 21, 2021 6:45 am

I’m confused, it looks like Gerten didn’t mention lockdowns of any sort anywhere. So why does the title suggest he did?

Richard
April 21, 2021 6:57 am

The world obesity federation states that one third of the world is now obese and a problem in every country. With a world population increasing at a million a week it sure is doing well for lack of food and water.

Nick Graves
Reply to  Richard
April 21, 2021 8:51 am

Need more meat and fewer nasty carbohydrates.

It’s amazing how this useless idiot can get so very much wrong in one short article.

He probably thinks all the water will evaporate off into space or something – even if it weren’t nonsense and had some basis in fact, we do know how to build desalination plants.

observa
April 21, 2021 7:12 am

Water crisis now is it? Well that takes care of more dams and pumped hydro to the rescue for their pet unreliables.

Joel O’Bryan
April 21, 2021 7:24 am

One has to realize that PIK was founded in Potsdam in 1991 in the aftermath of the nearby Stasi training university shutdown 6 months earlier. Then things begin to make sense about the early years of Soviet support for the climate movement in the West that started in 1988.

Al Miller
April 21, 2021 7:51 am

NO! ENOUGH! This ludicrous pack of lies to try and panic the people is over. Humanity needs to relegate these liars to the trash bin of history and start being positive! Life has never been better for humanity and to sink to the bottom and live with these prophets of doom is tragic if we let this go on.

Sara
April 21, 2021 8:01 am

Water crisis? Where? The Great Lakes have more water than this dorkweed can possibly imagine, even in his wildest dreams. And that’s just the Great Lakes, never mind the numerous rivers and lakes all over the cotton-pickin’ North American continent.

I don’t think this guy is an Earthling. I am more and more convinced that he and others of his ilk are space aliens pretending to be ‘just like us’ and want to take over the Whatever. They all look alike and they all say the same things, like robots with lips.

Frankly, as a meatasaurus, I would like to see this particular twerp try to pry my bacon away from me. But I’ll go hit Aldi and Jewel and maybe even the Fresh Market stores for beef, chicken and pork and he can just go pound sand.

Looks like a limp-wristed snork, in my view, and probably is made at his Mommy because he was bottlefed, instead of the other thing.

Water crisis, my Fat Aunt Harriet!!!!!

Charles Higley
April 21, 2021 8:07 am

Want to use water more efficiently in agriculture? Raise the atmospheric CO2 concentration.

A vegan diet is mostly long term malnutrition because, even though thinks like soy beans have all 20 amino acids, the 8 essential amino acids are not in sufficient abundance. It’s a great way to subdue a population and shorten lifespans, because there is no way they will foster the difficult combinations of nuts and grains that provides a truly healthy diet.

gringojay
Reply to  Charles Higley
April 21, 2021 9:22 am

A curious thing about eCO2 water use efficiency improvement is that in rain fed agriculture when some (I won’t extrapolate saying all) an edible crop is mature they can actually put out more water (evapo-transpiration) from their leaves than control plants at ambient CO2. One explanation offered is that: while eCO2 facilitates more soil moisture (in the context of initially less leaf evapo-transpiration draw down of soil moisture under eCO2) a later dry period of high daily maximum temperature & clear daytime sky actually see the eCO2 grown plant continue it’s evapo-transpiration rate, whereas the ambient CO2 control plant leaves reduce the water they let out.

This dynamic is related to rain fed multi-year experiments with soybeans. I have also seen data that under unusually dry conditions sorghum also perform greater evapo-transpiration under eCO2. Sorghum/millet are key African food crops in certain semi-arid regions & so I
have written this out.

One last observation about late crop season drought under eCO2 is that the rain fed soybeans under eCO2 having greater water evapo-transpiration were measurably cooler in their leaf canopy than rain fed ambient CO2 age mates. Which is another feature that I’ll just describe as desirable.

Carlo, Monte
April 21, 2021 8:13 am

Hey, I got an idea! Cover all the lakes and ponds with PV!!! No evaporation…

Tim Gorman
April 21, 2021 8:33 am

“For Europe, Gerten is predicting much wetter winters, and extremely drier summers, and warns this will have dire consequences for agriculture.”

“Another solution is rainwater harvesting in ponds for use during dry periods. ”

“Why do PIK scientists know this, and farmers don’t?”

Once again we see pronouncements from someone that obviously has lived an isolated life in a concrete jungle with no actual knowledge of the real world at all!

If you get more water in the winter what happens to it? The fact is that much of that winter wet stuff (commonly known as snow) eventually winds up as either subsoil moisture or as runoff into rivers and streams. Springtime subsoil moisture leads to better crops as the plants extend roots further and further down to keep chasing needed moisture. This allows the plants to make better use of whatever summertime moisture is received. Spring water melt can be collected in reservoirs and saved for summertime use.

And ponds? Has this person *ever* actually done much travelling in actual agricultural areas? The entire middle of the USA is dotted with ponds and tail water pits. From Illinois to Colorado and Texas to North Dakota (there’s nothing like walking/driving the ground while pheasant/quail hunting to get a feel for the territory). My youngest son traveled extensively in Europe after college and saw the same things there.

Farmers *do* know all of this. It is just more confirmation that the author of this piece has *never* gone into the field and actually talked to real farmers!

Trying to Play Nice
April 21, 2021 9:27 am

Just close down the Pottsdork Institute and all our problems will be solved. The total IQ at that place seems to be about 5.

Pat from Kerbob
April 21, 2021 9:34 am

Plenty of land on the canadian prairies that is marginal for agriculture due to lack of water, that produces a lot of meat instead

TonyG
April 21, 2021 9:40 am

Why don’t we just impose global martial law and force everyone to remain at home. The military can deliver “approved” foods for everyone to eat. Nobody will be allowed to do anything until all the crises are under control.

I probably shouldn’t be giving them ideas…

Reply to  TonyG
April 21, 2021 9:59 am

In German vaccination centeres military personal assists…..

April 21, 2021 9:57 am

Water “shortage” in Saudi Arabia

Ed Zuiderwijk
April 21, 2021 10:24 am

Move to France. Not a chance in hell for anything remotely like a prohibition of meat.

Climate believer
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
April 21, 2021 1:04 pm

Well Ed, I’m afraid the eco-fascists are trying to sneek it in even here…

https://apnews.com/article/lyon-france-no-meat-school-lunch-c623853e5f9bb5988463afaa1a2e69bf

V. Dominique
April 21, 2021 10:34 am

Maybe these so-called experts should take the time to understand how water footprints are calculated. Start by asking why beef cattle have a larger water footprint than dairy cattle. It’s not because one consumes more water than the other. It’s because beef cattle are often ranged over a larger area. After all, there is no such thing as a dairy ranch.

Water footprints are divided into green, blue and gray water. Green water is precipitation; i.e., the amount of rain and snow that falls on crops and pastures. Blue water refers to surface water (rivers, lakes, etc.) and aquifers. Gray water refers to the water used to dilute pollution.

When discussing water shortages, blue water is the only number that counts. And guess what? Crops use more blue water than livestock. Most of the water attributed to livestock is green water, meaning the precipitation that will fall on a piece of land regardless of what it is used for, and every drop of the virtual precipitation that falls on those fields, grasslands and rangelands is included in the models

gringojay
Reply to  V. Dominique
April 21, 2021 12:53 pm

Worldwide edible animal water use is 87.2% green water, 6.2% blue water & 6.6% grey water. With 33.3% of that water being used by beef cattle & 19% being used by dairy animals.

None-the-less 98% of the total water used by cattle worldwide is actually attributable to the plant feed so many are given. Their drinking water only amounts to 1.1% of total water involved, so called service related water is 0.8% & water involved in process mixing of feed 0.03% of the total water involved.

Although free range livestock have obvious value when discussing edible production on a large scale this is only demonstrable in New Zealand & in other regions on a smaller scale. What remains to be acknowledged is that 40% of the total world cereal grain crop yield is used for edible animals’ feed (see above this adds 98% to world total water usage by cattle). I think many are mistaken in the belief that worldwide crops are predominantly irrigated; the actual production of crops is predominantly using precipitation, or “green” water.

The chart below details “Litre” of water required per kilogram, kilocalorie, gram protein & gram fat for different important edible foods.

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V. Dominique
Reply to  gringojay
April 21, 2021 3:58 pm

40% of the total cereal crop yield is not used for livestock feed. According to recent studies, roughly 87% of livestock feed is not human edible. For ruminants, the bulk of that feed comes from grasses and forbs, either as pasture or hay. Concentrated animal feeds come primarily from crop residues (stems, hulls, leaves; most of the phytomass from crops is not human edible), food waste (skins, rinds, pulp, etc.) and the byproducts of ethanol, vegetable oils and faux milks made from soy, almonds, rice, oats, and so on.

gringojay
Reply to  V. Dominique
April 21, 2021 7:39 pm

The 40% figure is from FAO 2001 – 2010 data. The fact that animals can convert human non-dietary foodstuff into humanly edible nutrition is a good thing & still leaves us discussing the issue of water input to get a calorie or protein/fat gram.

You mention concentrates & these use “green” water at the rate of 849 cubic mt of water/ton + “blue” water at the rate of 78 cubic mt./ton + “grey” water at the rate of 122 cubic mt/ton; for a total of 1,048 cubic meters of water/ton of concentrate. You also mention roughage (pasture, green cereal forage, grass for silage, fodder crops & straw) which uses 1.99 cubic meters of “green” water/ ton + “blue” water at the rate of 1.8 cubic mt/ton + “grey” water at the rate of 2.8 cubic mt/ton; for a total of 203 cubic mt water/ton.

There is a relatively low rate of water usage of animal forage compared to relatively high rate of water usage to get animal feed concentrates. This is a ratio that needs context & I will try to add a chart below. The chart’s 1st column on the left is for poultry, the middle column for pork & the far column on the right is for beef. To be precise, this is data averaged for several western countries & is not presented as representative of nomad herds – just illustrative of what we supermarket shopping Wattsupwiththat readers are likely to be buying.

gringojay
Reply to  gringojay
April 21, 2021 7:45 pm

Here’s that graphic: from left to right it is for poultry, pork & beef. It is poorly rendered. The light grey vertical bar is “industrial”, the dark grey vertical bar is “mixed” & the black vertical bar is “grazing”; these terms are representing the type of animal production. The scale of 0-100 is “% of concentrate feed in total feed”.

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Ed Zuiderwijk
April 21, 2021 10:56 am

I can hear the cry to have the right to bear arms becoming louder by the day.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
April 22, 2021 2:19 pm

And probably that is exactly why Biden is introducing new gun control legislation, in the hopes that the Democrat dominance in the House and Senate can ram it through.

Jeffery P
April 21, 2021 12:17 pm

Imagine the water savings if we drop the ethanol mandates.

Walter Sobchak
April 21, 2021 1:05 pm

Another German was a vegetarian too. He was the ruler of Germany from 1933 to 1945.

dodgy geezer
April 21, 2021 1:25 pm

There can NEVER be a water shortage. Water infinitely recyclable.

The shortages that are being talked about are shortages of water industry infrastructure. NOT the raw material. And the answer is simply to invest in building more…

Abolition Man
April 21, 2021 2:09 pm

How interesting that the PTB are trying to encourage vegetarian and vegan diets, while discouraging meat consumption. It couldn’t have anything to do with the essential amino and fatty acids prevalent in meats that are needed for full brain development and function!

The Pritikin Diet proved that starving oneself of high quality calories will induce weight lose, followed shortly by a welcomed death to stop the hunger pangs! Notice how the meteoric rise in diabetes rates followed shortly after the low fat diet gained government imprimatur!?

The Atkins diet got closer to reality, but the latest theories have early hominids developing their large brains specifically by feeding on the fats available in animal marrow and organs! All the protein available in the flesh is an added bonus, but long term we need the fats!

I like to think of avocados and guacamole as staples of my diet, and butter and healthy oils are good sources of fat! I love my fresh salads and vegetables; especially a Bleu cheese steak salad; but you’re not going to take my meat away until you pry my BBQ utensils from my cold, dead fingers

RLC
April 21, 2021 2:15 pm

According to the Vanham et.al. 2016 diagram, we do not need to expand the food production of those other areas. What will take the place of the lost protein? 

shortie of greenbank
Reply to  RLC
April 21, 2021 10:11 pm

we will become supplementovores like the other vegans. Your lost protein, b12 and other essentials will come to you from a government approved factory.

Rory Forbes
April 21, 2021 2:20 pm

Someone needs to explain to these morons that humans are omnivores. Our system was not intended to be vegetarian. Animal protein is good. It’s healthful and those who believe otherwise are ignorant.

ATheoK
April 21, 2021 3:48 pm

Another quack wants on the bandwagon scam.

Gerten warns that climate change is going to make food far more difficult, especially in the red-colored regions (20:50) due to more heat and drought.”

Heat rarely reduces crops.
Only the most severe droughts reduce crops. Yet droughts rarely prevent crops.

Severe cold does prevent crops.
Too short a growing season prevents crops.
Too cold a Fall season inhibits ripening, reducing crops.
Too cold a planting season causes germination failures and can prevent a crop.

It is notable that Gerten makes claims about water storage and usage that have been in practice for hundreds of years.
Another arm chair urban loon telling the experts what to do…

Gunga Din
April 21, 2021 6:12 pm

“Another solution is rainwater harvesting in ponds for use during dry periods. “Field studies show that crop yields can be doubled, or even quadrupled, simply by using water better, ” Gerten explains.”

Rain water harvesting.
Here’s a thought.
With all the “infrastructure” money Biden and the Dems are throwing around, why not spend a few bucks on building dams? Maybe the dams could even have their discharge turn a turbine that makes electricity?
That could power these things called “pumps” to move the water into an irrigation system!

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Gunga Din
April 22, 2021 2:28 pm

It isn’t just a matter of money. Dams require a narrow canyon to minimize the construction time and costs. They require a water supply that won’t silt up the canyon before the construction costs are amortized. Almost all of the best sites, outside of Wilderness Areas, have already been built.

Because there are side effects, such as impeding the migration of fish, preservationists have managed to get some dams taken out, and are working on expanding the destruction of dams.

We aren’t all on the same team. Personally, I have mixed feelings about dams because they trade wilderness recreation opportunities for more highly regulated, and artificial, recreation like water skiing, house boat parties, and jet skis.

Mike Dubrasich
April 21, 2021 6:15 pm

“Signs of course are forest fires in California and Oregon caused by severe drought.”

We have had no drought in Oregon. Plenty of rain in west slope Cascade forests. Our 2020 fires were arson-set and Let It Burn in unmanaged forests where fuels had been accumulating for 100+ years.

Prof. Dr. Dieter Gerten is a liar. What a jerk.

Nicholas McGinley
April 21, 2021 6:27 pm

Cover all croplands with straw?
But where do we grow the straw?
Do we cover straw fields with straw too?
Where do we get the straw for that?
Still other straw fields?
Sounds gre….he-ee-ee-eeey, wait a second!

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
April 22, 2021 2:31 pm

You have stumbled on a truism. It would seem that liberals are better at circular reasoning than linear reasoning.

Herbert
April 21, 2021 6:29 pm

To quote Professor Andy Pitman, a lead Author of the UN IPCC,from a presentation at University of New South Wales in June,2019-
“There is no reason why in a warming world the planet would become more arid”.
He is entirely correct and Australia is becoming warmer,slightly over the latest ‘climate normal’ of 1990-2020,and wetter,not warmer and drier.
Or has Australia warmed at all this century? That is another debate.
In addition, the entire theory of the ‘enhanced greenhouse effect’ relies on increasing water vapour as a strong feedback.
A little consistency on these issues would be helpful in the debate.

High Treason
April 21, 2021 9:06 pm

It is all about continuing FEAR. FEAR allows freedoms to be taken from those that can be duped in to trading hard won freedoms for security. As we all know, those that would trade their freedoms for security will deserve and receive neither.
The fear (read propaganda) needs to always be in the public sphere- if they relent, people start to wake up. Then it is time to change the narrative

Vincent Causey
April 21, 2021 11:37 pm

The answer must be – more CO2. “The Science” says it makes plants more drought resistant!

John Bruce
April 22, 2021 12:17 am

maybe the hydrogen cheer club should read this
need a 1000 litres of water to produce 100kg of hydrogen

This is the large existential risk for water if we try to use hydrogen as an energy source

Robert of Ottawa
April 22, 2021 2:21 pm

Won’t the rising oceans take care of the water shortage?

John Bruce
Reply to  Robert of Ottawa
April 22, 2021 6:44 pm

desal only doubles the amount of power required making hydrogen even less sensible and cost more $5/m3 to make desal /deionised water required for electrolysers (current cost WA)

Humility
April 23, 2021 5:09 am

I recall headlines like: ~= “This hurricane is proof of global warming. Soon, we will be drowning all along our coasts in constant rainfall and floods from hurricanes brought on by global warming.”

GrantLR
April 23, 2021 6:10 am

I had thought that their argument was that global warming / climate change meant more water vapor in the atmosphere due to increased evaporation of the oceans (and ice melting, too) – which would mean more rain water, globally, but just in more severe storms, etc.

Is their argument changing already? It’s almost as if the alarmist argument changes to whatever is most convenient at that particular moment, forget was was argued last week… Nah, couldn’t be.

April 30, 2021 8:24 pm

Extraordinary popular delusions and the madness of crowds?

https://wp.me/pTN8Y-6Yy

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