Guest essay by Eric Worrall
According to Michael Mann, the main obstacle to climate action is a coalition of Russian robots, Saudis, fossil fuel tycoons, Rupert Murdoch, Wikileaks and climate deniers.
Climatologist Michael E Mann: ‘Good people fall victim to doomism. I do too sometimes’
Jonathan Watts
@jonathanwatts
Sun 28 Feb 2021 03.00 AEDTThe author and eminent climate scientist on the deniers’ new tactics and why positive change feels closer than it has done in 20 years
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Who is the enemy in the new climate war?
It is fossil fuel interests, climate change deniers, conservative media tycoons, working together with petrostate actors like Saudi Arabia and Russia. I call this the coalition of the unwilling.If you had to find a single face that represents both the old and new climate war it would be Rupert Murdoch. Climate change is an issue the Murdoch press has disassembled on for years. The disinformation was obvious last year, when they blamed arsonists for the devastating Australian bushfires. This was a horrible attempt to divert attention from the real cause, which was climate change. Murdoch was taken to task by his own son because of the immorality of his practices.
We also have to recognise the increasing roles of petrostate actors. Saudi Arabia has played an obstructionist role. Russia has perfected cyber warfare and used it to interfere in other countries and disrupt action on climate change. MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow has made a credible case about Russia’s efforts to hijack the 2016 presidential election and get Trump elected. Russia wanted to end US sanctions that stood in the way of a half-trillion-dollar deal between Rosneft and ExxonMobil. It worked. Who did Trump appoint as his first secretary of state? Rex Tillerson, the former CEO of ExxonMobil.
Today Russia uses cyberware – bot armies and trolls – to get climate activists to fight one another and to seed arguments on social media. Russian trolls have attempted to undermine carbon pricing in Canada and Australia, and Russian fingerprints have been detected in the yellow-vest protests in France.Advertisement
And WikiLeaks? Your book suggests they were involved?
I’m not an expert but there has been a lot of investigative journalism about the role they played in the 2016 election. Julian Assange and WikiLeaks helped Donald Trump get elected, and in doing that they did the bidding of Putin. Their fingerprints are also all over the climategate affair 10 years ago. UK investigators have evidence of Russian involvement in that too.…
Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/feb/27/climatologist-michael-e-mann-doomism-climate-crisis-interview
I’ve got news for you Mann, climate activists don’t need our help to fall out with each other. Just look at the fight between Michael Moore and the rest of the climate community over his anti-renewable energy eco-epic “Planet of the Humans”. Or that hilarious time Naomi Oreskes called James Hansen a “denier”, because of a disagreement over nuclear power.
Of course it helps that Michael Moore is part of the climate denier conspiracy. Moore’s “Planet of the Humans” insider attack against renewable energy and the climate establishment was a maskirovka master stroke.
The truth is the previous paragraph is a joke, Michael Moore is not an agent of fossil fuel interests, as far as I know. But do climate activists trust me to tell the truth? Maybe some of them will think I’m mocking climate activists by parading a snippet of the truth, then laughing about it, expecting nobody to believe my reveal.
What do you think, Michael Mann?
Hey, it’s March 1st, not April 1st…
Mann’s conspiracy ideation is yet another symptom of the mental unhealth that is so pervasive on the Left. The climate movement is increasingly dominated by the mentally ill.
“Their fingerprints are also all over the climategate affair 10 years ago. UK investigators have evidence of Russian involvement in that too.”
As I understand it, the UK investigators came to the conclusion that an unknown, never identified, Russian mole infiltrated the UEA CRU and gathered all the data into one file called HarryReadMe.
Then, instead of walking off with the file, they signalled an outside Russian hacker (unknown, never identified) to break into the computer systems and take that file the hard way.
This is believed to be more likely than an insider gathering the data, naming the file in English words and then blowing the whistle on CRU’s malpractice.
Well, this is believed to be more likely by crackpots, anyway.
Hummm? So Hilary and the DNC simply took a page from the CAGW wars.
It is amazing when people ignore the facts of a story by focusing on how those facts came out. As in, someone was provably a murderer, but an evil leak revealed this, so let’s ignore the murder and falsely prosecute our political enemy as ” the leaker”. (And it works)
I still love the mental gymnastics employed to use the ‘Russian Bots got Trump Elected’ theory.
Putin spent millions, possibly billions, to ensure a man who campaigned on Make America Great Again and America First would win the election because a strong, self confident and proud America would be easier to manipulate globally.
Still, these are the same people who claim record low temperatures clearly proves Global Warming(tm) theory.
best laugh in days! the mans so stupid its painful.
he needs a cuppa tea, a Bex and a LONG liedown
Mann keeps piling on the irony. It will make a good training video – a documentary on how not to shoot yourself in the food when you have already been exposed as player in the second biggest money making scam even perpetrated in history (COVID is easily out-performing CO2).
And he wants to be an even more high profile player than he was! Can you believe it?
It’s all a Russian plot! He sounds like people in the Middle East blaming everything that happens from day to day in the CIA – that all-powerful group with access to advanced technology you wouldn’t believe.
It seems people need a super-natural being/group to blame for each personal failing.
“Da Debbil made me do it!”
These are modernised versions of Hollywood’s “The Invasion of the Body Snatchers” (see it to understand).
“They look just like us!”
Well, some of us don’t look like them.
Mikey’s an expert on dissembling. Too bad he can’t spell the word.
How does he have a job? All of his assertions are baseless.
Calm down Mike. Those friendly men in white coats will be coming soon.
Citing the endless Rachel Madcow lies about Russia and President Trump: this is how you argue for your hockey stick fraud, Mickey?
Apropos.
…and I’m losing control of ‘my’ people!
Ask him what the Martians told him.
The truth:
https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/once-secret-fbi-informant-reports-reveal-wide-ranging
How many demons did Stalin chase?
Climate scientists are fighting each other? Is that like when Gavin Schmidt went running for the green room when Roy Spencer came on set during the Stossel Show? He surrendered and cried uncle, thinking he’d make Spencer look less credible. If that’s the level of thinking undergirding climate alarmism, no wonder you need to find people to blame, Mr. Mann. (I’d call you DOCTOR, but I rather think you’re a DOCTOR in the same exact way Jill Biden is a DOCTOR). Oh, wait, I see, it was Rupert Murdoch who gave John Stossel a show, and THAT’S why he’s to blame for Gavin Schmidt running away like a scared little girl.
DOCTOR Mann, this is all reminding me of that time you brought up Trofim Lysenko’s name to try and discredit Dr. John Christy and Dr. Judith Curry during Senate testimony at which you all appeared as climate ‘experts.’ You were so stupid you didn’t see that it was YOU who was in the Trofim Lysenko chair, the favored scientist, promoted by the federal bureaucracy and the Democrats, advancing the official favored government narrative (back in Lysenko’s case, at issue was the productivity of collective farms, with you it’s the guaranteed productivity of wind mills and solar panels in preventing CAGW) using your alleged expertise to advance a very tenuous, very weak chain of scientific causality that’s favored by the many Western governments, and this debate even has you and YOUR side of the political debate starting to agitate for a Western gulag to lock up dissenters, just as Stalin did. You sir, are a nitwit. Dr. Nitwit, Dr. Fraudpants, as Mark Steyn calls you, or Dr. Lysenko II.
You just have to laugh at this statement:
Their fingerprints are also all over the climategate affair 10 years ago. UK investigators have evidence of Russian involvement in that too.
Oh, those darned Ruskies!!! It wasn’t me, it was the Russians!
FYI, the translation from Russian is, “If you buy our natural gas, maybe we won’t invade your country.”
Hey Mickey…are those Rooskie Bots probing Uranus?
Is Michael Moore filming in Texas? Can he read the EIA data and go from there with interviews with talking heads. Do the interviews with the EIA chart in the background.
Yes, and Happy Valley is the new Roswell. Don’t forget the tinfoil hats.
It’s interesting how both the interviewer and Mann take every opportunity to take the actions of the climate alarmists and attribute them to the skeptics. Examples include claims of collusion with Russia when it was actually the Democrats, specifically Hillary, who was shown to be the one(s) in collusion. Another is claiming that it was the Russians and WikiLeaks who were responsible for Climategate rather than Mann himself and his co-conspirators.
Further they make claims that the media are the enemy when the main stream media promotes the “claimed” climate crisis as their main focus. The media is their biggest ally in spreading disinformation.
Elsewhere Mann and Watts refer to skeptics as “climate change deniers” when it is actually the CAGW crowd who imply that our climate should stop changing.
Mann speaks of other spreading false information when that has been the modus operandi of the climate alarmists groups. In fact Mann is even down on Gates for not being alarmist enough by pointing out the weaknesses of the so-called renewables.
Watts and Mann go on to blame skeptics for “Doom-mongering”. It’s not skeptics who are giving us only a few years to survive or claiming disappearance of the poles, if not in 2013, then soon!
Both interviewer Watts and Mann talk about the problems of “underplaying the dangers” when they should be discussing the problems of underplaying their failures!
How do you mention Wikileaks without mentioning the ongoing misinformation and biased editing of Wikipedia, especially the role of the disgraced (and now back) William Connelly?
Conservative media tycoons? Ever heard of Jeff Bezos? How ’bout the alarmist claims of extreme weather disasters, unsupported by data or science, that we hear every day from all of MSM?
The main obstacle to “climate inaction” is that the general public does not take the handwaving and models of the Alarmists seriously because of 40 years of failed predictions, lack of observational data and the public’s own life experiences.
When Mann presents arguments that more or less manifest a “good vs. evil” and “us vs. them” mentality, it becomes patently clear to me that he has abandoned science for his activist ideology. This not how science is done. That he is still employed at Penn State and teaches there (does he still teach there?) is disturbing to think about.
I do not know if he is manifesting any psychological issues that might be helped by professional attention, but it would not surprise me at all if it is determined someday that he does. That he still is respected in the mainstream media as a news source on climate issues only serves to show how far off kilter the media is on those issues.
I guess we should be thankful that he is not a member of Biden’s climate team — at least not yet anyway.
Don’t worry, Biden’s climate team has nothing to do with climate, so it doesn’t matter which idiot is on or off it. The best liar is the one getting the job …….
Michael Mann has to be one of the stupidest men on the planet. Every qualified climatologist who isn’t on NASA’s or George Soros or some other payroll knows there is little or no correlation between CO2 levels and warming or cooling, that there has been little or no global warming as opposed to what the phony models said, that hurricanes and other significant storms are at their lowest levels in 50 years and that Antarctic ice is at its greatest extent in recorded history. It is way past time to get off this phony story.
What I think is there are now a series of ‘codes’, ‘key phrases’ that you have to use to signify to the PTB that you are ‘on board’, ‘sound’, ‘with the program’ etc etc.
That is the only explanation for this pile of gibberish.