Polar bear habitat update for late November

Reposted from Polar Bear Science

Posted on November 25, 2020 | 

Sea ice formation is ahead of usual in some regions and behind in others but overall, sea ice habitat is abundant enough for this time of year for virtually all polar bears across the Arctic to be back out on the sea ice hunting seals.

Overall, there was more sea ice at 24 November 2020 than there was on the same date in 2016, which was the last year that a number of polar bear subpopulations were surveyed, including Western and Southern Hudson Bay, Southern Beaufort, Chukchi Sea (Crockford 2019, 2020), see graph below from NSIDC Masie:

Northern Hemisphere sea ice at 24 November, 2016-2020.

Northern Hemisphere sea ice at 24 November, 2016-2020.

UPDATE 27 November 2020: Problem bear report published today (for week 13, Nov. 16-22) has been added below.

EASTERN CANADIAN ARCTIC

Ice is forming rapidly over Hudson Bay a bit earlier than usual but Davis Strait off southern Baffin Island still has little ice cover.

The pattern of ice formation over Hudson Bay has been a bit unusual this year because winds blew a big chunk of ice offshore part-way through the freeze-up process. Also, freeze-up came earlier than normal. Aside from noting that one bear with a tracking collar was on the ice at 16 November, polar bear researcher Andrew Derocher has been silent as to the locations of the rest of his collared bears until this morning, when he published a chart dated 23 November showing that half of the eight bears that are likely not pregnant females are on the ice (see below). The other four will stay onshore in dens to have their cubs later this year.

Of course, knowing these bears are all offshore now doesn’t tell us when they actually left shore – as far as we know, they went on the ice 17 November (the day after Derocher’s first announcement). Regardless, Derocher falsely implied in his tweet this morning that the situation at 23 November supported his claim that this was “not an early freeze-up.”

Except that by all independent measures, including ice charts, reports from eyes-on-the-ground, and photos of bears hunting on the ice, freezeup this year was early even for the 1970s and 1980s (Castro de la Guardia et al. 2017; Stirling et al. 1977). Many bears (but not all) were out on the ice hunting by the first few days of November (see chart below), which would have been earlier than usual in the 1980s (when the average date for bears to leave was 16 November). A few stragglers stayed behind, including Derocher’s collared bears, apparently in no obvious hurry to get on the ice.

The Canadian Ice Service chart of ‘departure from normal’ for Hudson Bay shows there is a lot more ice than usual in the middle of the bay and south into James Bay (all that blue!). In contrast, there is much less ice than usual in northern Hudson Bay and Davis Strait (off southern Baffin Island), shown in red and pink.

A study by Castro de la Guardia and colleagues (2017: Figure 3) determined that  the earliest freeze-up dates since 1979 for Western Hudson Bay came on 6 November in 1991 and 1993. As the ice charts from CIS archives (below) show, there was about as much ice off the shore of Western Hudson Bay in 1991 for the first week of November as there was this year (chart above).  In other words, Derocher saying this wasn’t an early freeze-up year does not make it so.

In 1993 (below), there was much more ice in the north of Hudson Bay than this year in early November but not any more along the west coast, where polar bears congregate waiting for the ice to form:

Two weeks later, the amount of ice cover over Hudson Bay is impressive for this time of year, according to ice present for the week of 23 November (below) – this chart shows the actual amount of ice cover rather than the anomaly. The ice is forming quickly.

So, I’d say it’s no wonder polar bear experts have not published ‘official’ breakup/freezeup dates for polar bears since 2015 (Castro de la Guardia et al. 2017) –  freezeup has been average (2017) or earlier than average (2018-2020), for the last four years in a row. Although in 2016 freeze-up was very late, we know that occasionally a very late freezeup year happened, as it did in 1983, even before claims were made that man-made climate change was the regulator of all Arctic ice (Ramsay and Stirling 1988).

The latest two reports from the Polar Bear Alert Program in Churchill (for weeks 11 and 12, November 2-8 and 9-15) were finally published online today but neither of them mention the state of the ice. But given no report appears to have been published this week and the low number of incidents in week 12 (4 ‘occurrences’) and the number of bears in the holding facility (PBHF) at the end of last week (0), it looks like the report for 9-15 November (below) was the last of the season.

UPDATE 27 November 2020: Problem bear report published today (for week 13, Nov. 16-22) is added below, indicating a few bears still have not left for the ice despite its abundance.

FOR COMPARISON TO THE ABOVE, SEE THE LAST PROBLEM BEAR REPORT FOR 2017 (BELOW):

WESTERN ARCTIC INCLUDING RUSSIAN FAR EAST

The Beaufort Sea has been largely ice-covered since the third week in October (in contrast, in 2012 this didn’t happen until mid-November). Currently, shorefast ice is forming rapidly along the shores of the Bering Sea but ice from the Chukchi Sea has not yet moved south through the Bering Strait. Wrangel Island, where many Chukchi polar bear females have their cubs, was reached by the advancing ice pack by 11 November.

Chukchi Bering Sea, NSIDC Masie ice chart for 24 November 2020 (Day 329).

CENTRAL RUSSIAN COAST

On the Russian coast, the Laptev and East Siberian Seas have been completely ice covered in ice since early November (below) after rapidly forming shorefast ice met up with slowly advancing the pack ice this fall.

Russian Arctic, NSIDC Masie 4 November 2020.

BARENTS AND KARA SEAS

Franz Josef Land in the eastern Barents Sea has now got substantial ice cover after a slow return of the Arctic ice pack. However, the Svalbard archipelago in the western Barents is still ice-free, as it has been for many years now at this point in the fall (except last year). As a consequence, most Barents Sea pregnant female polar bears will choose to make their maternity dens on the mobile pack ice to the north or on one of the islands of Franz Josef Land.

Barents and Kara Seas, NSIDC Masie, 24 November 2020 (Day 329).

There is little ice in eastern Kara Sea at this point in the season, especially around Novaya Zemlya, but that has been the case for this region since the late 1990s at least. A graph of ice cover over the Kara Sea for the last five years (NSIDC Masie, below), shows that 2020 was only the second lowest in recent years after 2016.

Kara Sea sea ice at 24 November, 2016-2020, NSIDC Masie.

REFERENCES

Castro de la Guardia, L., Myers, P.G., Derocher, A.E., Lunn, N.J., Terwisscha van Scheltinga, A.D. 2017. Sea ice cycle in western Hudson Bay, Canada, from a polar bear perspective. Marine Ecology Progress Series 564: 225–233. http://www.int-res.com/abstracts/meps/v564/p225-233/

Crockford, S.J. 2019The Polar Bear Catastrophe That Never Happened. Global Warming Policy Foundation, London. Available in paperback and ebook formats.

Crockford, S.J. 2020. State of the Polar Bear Report 2019. Global Warming Policy Foundation Report 39, London. pdf here.

Ramsay, M.A. and Stirling, I. 1988. Reproductive biology and ecology of female polar bears (Ursus maritimus). Journal of Zoology London 214:601-624.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-7998.1988.tb03762.x/abstract

Stirling I, Jonkel C, Smith P, Robertson R, Cross D. 1977. The ecology of the polar bear (Ursus maritimus) along the western coast of Hudson Bay. Canadian Wildlife Service Occasional Paper No. 33. pdf here.

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JCalvertN(UK)
November 30, 2020 6:09 am

We still haven’t got to the winter solstice. Do polar bears hunt in darkness?

Vuk
Reply to  JCalvertN(UK)
November 30, 2020 8:21 am

… but the sun has awaken from the solar ‘winter’ slumber with the SC25 underway in the earnest. The early 21st century’s minimum fell short of either one at the early 19th or the early 20th century.
http://www.vukcevic.co.uk/SSN-3-minima.htm
Today there are 4 or 5 sunspot groups with the daily count around 80, while the November’s count is about 20 on the old scale (or 29 on the new SILSO corrected)
If the SC25 continues at this rate it might be even higher than predicted by Dr. Svalgaard, and my estimate might be simply a way too low.
One odd thing though, all large spots up to date were at much lower (S.H.) latitudes than it is usually case at the beginning of a cycle.

tty
Reply to  Vuk
December 2, 2020 3:03 am

“One odd thing though, all large spots up to date were at much lower (S.H.) latitudes than it is usually case at the beginning of a cycle.”

So rather like in the Maunder minimum:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/227000163_The_Maunder_Minimum_North-South_Asymmetry_in_Sunspot_Formation_Mean_Sunspot_Latitudes_and_the_Butterfly_Diagram

Gerald Machnee
Reply to  JCalvertN(UK)
November 30, 2020 4:34 pm

Over Hudson Bay the sun does not disappear. There is some sun plus at the low angles there is a lot of twilight. The sun will set over the Arctic islands. Unless it is totally cloudy there is some dim light.

rbabcock
November 30, 2020 7:01 am

This will be an interesting winter with the La Niña. If the jet keeps the polar air bottled up in the Arctic it will get really cold up there (Canada) and we will have ice well into Spring. Reputable forecasts (not US government ones) are calling for this.

Also the Sun has really come to life over the past few weeks and flares and CME’s may be a factor as well. Yesterday’s estimated M4.4 would have caused issues with us mortals if it was pointed at us when it went off.

Joel O’Bryan
Reply to  rbabcock
November 30, 2020 8:54 am

The M4.4 flare on that SE limb region was impressive. The release supersonic shockwave ripped through the entire limb-visible corona in SDO/AIA imagery. The growth of a bright “hedgerow of looped filaments/prominences” was also pretty neat, glowing in soft xray luminance as they climbed in unison into the corona following the initial explosion. Looking at it in Stereo-A beacons images didn’t do it justice.

griff
November 30, 2020 7:18 am

Sea ice formation is MASSIVELY behind in MANY areas.

You can’t tell a bare faced lie like ‘Sea ice formation is ahead of usual in some regions and behind in others but overall, sea ice habitat is abundant enough for this time of year for virtually all polar bears across the Arctic to be back out on the sea ice hunting seals.’

There is virtually NO ice in the Kara or Barents; there is virtually no ice in the Bering Strait or most of the Chuckchi, there is less ice than usual in Baffin Bay/Davis Strait and the ice is nowhere near extending to Svalbard.

Possibly part of Hudson Bay has more ice than average.

The arctic sea ice extent is at second lowest for date, after spending well over a month at lowest for date after the September minimum.

This is a shamefully mendacious piece of fake news.

(you called the author a liar without evidence, while the author provided 5 references, charts and links to support her assertions, which you didn’t show was false. It is why you are getting the replies you deserve, for being hostile to the author without provocation. You behaving as an idiot here with a bad reputation for not responding for links and clarification to your comments, you look like a troll at times as well) SUNMOD

Reply to  griff
November 30, 2020 7:31 am

And you are the polarbear president talking for all of them knowing they can’t hunt seals on ice.

fred250
Reply to  Krishna Gans
November 30, 2020 11:34 am

Griff thinks the Arctic should be covered in solid sea ice all year.

He absolutely HATES the idea of the Arctic dropping back to more normal levels,and providing open space for food and sustenance for Arctic animals and sea creatures.

The slight recovery from the EXTREME HIGH levels of sea ice in the LIA and 1970s has done WONDERS for Arctic life.

Not only is the land surface GREENING, but the seas are also springing BACK to life after being TOO COLD and frozen over for much of the last 500 or so years (coldest period of the Holocene)

The drop in sea ice slightly toward the pre-LIA levels has opened up the food supply for the nearly extinct Bowhead Whale, and they are returning to the waters around Svalbard.

https://partner.sciencenorway.no/arctic-ocean-forskningno-fram-centre/the-ice-retreats–whale-food-returns/1401824

The Blue Mussel is also making a return, having been absent for a few thousand years, apart from a brief stint during the MWP.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0959683617715701?journalCode=hola

Many other species of whale are also returning now that the sea ice extent has dropped from the extreme highs of the LIA. Whales cannot swim on ice. !

https://blog.poseidonexpeditions.com/whales-of-svalbard/

Great thing is, that because of fossil fuels and plastics, they will no longer be hunted for whale blubber for lamps and for whale bone.

But none of this means anything to the griff ..

He/she/it/they are in total DENIAL of the huge benefits of more normal sea ice levels.

Sea ice is FAR more important to them.

Their hatred of Arctic life on land and at sea , knows no bounds.

rbabcock
Reply to  griff
November 30, 2020 7:45 am

You do know that polar water that is not ice covered gives up more heat to outer space than ice covered water? Just Mother Earth’s way of bleeding off all the excess heat pumped into the oceans from underwater volcanic activity which is where most of the heat comes from. Certainly not a few extra molecules of CO2.

BTW an Indonesian volcano just pumped aerosols 50,000 ft into the atmosphere. Once they get that high, they start to effect things. We haven’t had a big volcano go off for a few decades and we are due. Plus if the Beaufort Gyre lets loose, the UK is going to be in a heap of trouble especially since the electrical grid is being decimated. You need to count your blessings it’s as warm as it is currently.

ghalfrunt
Reply to  rbabcock
November 30, 2020 8:05 am

its a pity that 2.5GW of nuclear generation is off line at present = just when needed and 2FW offline until end of spring.
https://www.edfenergy.com/energy/power-station/daily-statuses

fred250
Reply to  ghalfrunt
November 30, 2020 12:34 pm

But SURELY there is enough wind power to cover all the needs… 😉

Or are they relying on solar and wood burning.

Going soon.. a forest near you !!

Mr.
Reply to  griff
November 30, 2020 8:01 am

Griff, it seems you forgot to include your evidence links again 🤡

David Kamakaris
Reply to  griff
November 30, 2020 8:05 am

Sea ice formation is MASSIVELY behind in “MANY areas.”

Griff, how long is your record?

fred250
Reply to  David Kamakaris
December 1, 2020 3:07 am

I wonder if poor ignorant griff trollette knows that MASIE shows the current sea ice level above that of the same day in 2006, the year MASIE started.

ya get that grifffy-poo…

ARCTIC SEA ICE LEVEL IS MORE NOW THAN THE YEAR MASIE STARTED.!

Graemethecat
Reply to  griff
November 30, 2020 8:16 am

But…but…we were all told that the Arctic would be ice-free by 2014!

fred250
Reply to  Graemethecat
November 30, 2020 11:49 am

And yet there is the extent currently around HUGE 10 Wadhams.

That is ONE HECK OF A LOT of sea ice up there. !

stewartpid
Reply to  griff
November 30, 2020 8:24 am

Griff how about providing your charts and maps showing this massive ice deficit for us?
I think there is more hiding of existing ice going on than over reporting. DMI shows the mouth of Hudson Bay closed with ice and has for over a week now but Can Ice services shows it as open water. Someone is playing games with their pixel counting IMHO.
We know that the pixel counting cheating is a real fraud since Susan, over a decade ago, pointed out to the USGS that collared bears were hunting on ice where they were showing open sea.

ghalfrunt
Reply to  stewartpid
November 30, 2020 9:25 am
fred250
Reply to  ghalfrunt
November 30, 2020 11:37 am

GREAT NEWS, hey half-runt

Levels still very high compared to last 10,000 years, but just enough open Arctic for long enough for Arctic sea life to start returning.

https://partner.sciencenorway.no/arctic-ocean-forskningno-fram-centre/the-ice-retreats–whale-food-returns/1401824

The Blue Mussel is also making a return, having been absent for a few thousand years, apart from a brief stint during the MWP.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0959683617715701?journalCode=hola

Many other species of whale are also returning now that the sea ice extent has dropped from the extreme highs of the LIA. Whales cannot swim on ice. !

https://blog.poseidonexpeditions.com/whales-of-svalbard/

Or are you as in denial of climate change as griff is,

And do you also have griff’s inner hatred of Arctic sea life, and want to see it frozen out of existence?

Coeur de Lion
Reply to  griff
November 30, 2020 8:31 am

Griff – last year’s bet which you would have won had you taken it up is still open for September 2022. Arctic ice goes below four Wadhams (4m sq km) and you collect £100. Otherwise I do. Taker?

Coeur de Lion
Reply to  Coeur de Lion
November 30, 2020 8:32 am

I mean 2021

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  griff
November 30, 2020 9:29 am

Oh look, it’s Griffie Downer:

Pat from kerbob
Reply to  griff
November 30, 2020 10:33 am

Griff
As always, the ice is lower than during the last glaciation period or even the 70s therefore the religions states this MUST be hurting the polar bears.
Even though the bears are clearly doing better than any predictions made over the past 4 decades.

At what point do you start to question your faith?

Climate believer
Reply to  griff
November 30, 2020 11:02 am

“You can’t tell a bare faced lie like ‘Sea ice formation is ahead of usual in some regions and behind in others but overall, sea ice habitat is abundant enough for this time of year for virtually all polar bears across the Arctic to be back out on the sea ice hunting seals.’

You do know people have the internet now?

Sea ice formation is ahead of usual in SOME regions, yes that’s true, you even admit it.
“Possibly part of Hudson Bay has more ice than average.”….. and POSSIBLY the Greenland Sea as well.
Even your buddies over on the Arctic forums admit that.

….”and it is behind in others”, yes true again…….you say so yourself…..again
“there is less ice than usual in Baffin Bay/Davis Strait”….. there is no lie, what are you talking about?

…”but overall, sea ice habitat is abundant enough for this time of year for virtually all polar bears across the Arctic to be back out on the sea ice hunting seals.”

If you have information to the contrary please provide a link.

Your fear mongering from a position of ignorance is all that’s shameful round here.

From WWF:
The field survey from the Chukchi Sea, found between Alaska and Russia, shows a stable subpopulation between 2008 and 2016.
The Barents polar bear subpopulation located off the northern coasts of Norway and Russia, was also found to be stable between 2004 and 2015.

From: Kieran McIver, Churchill Operations Manager, Polar bears international,
Polar bears can travel impressive distances across this frozen landscape. We just received an update that a male bear outfitted with a tracking ear tag was beginning his hunting season 40 kilometers off shore. Less than a week ago, he was still on land. He is followed by all the other bears we’ve spent time with this fall–moms and cubs, mischievous subadults, seasoned elders. I hope the cold weather holds and their sea ice home and hunting grounds continues to firm and freeze.

fred250
Reply to  griff
November 30, 2020 11:26 am

WRONG AS ALWAYS.. and in complete Climate Change Denial as always.

Current levels of sea ice are WELL ABOVE the norm of the last 10,000 years.

Still above the MWP and any time before it.

MASIE has Kara about half full, Chukchi half full, Greenland Sea near the highest for this time of year

Beaufort FULL, East Siberian FULL, Laptev FULL, Canadian Arctic FULL,

Hudson Bay, well above average

There is still ONE HECK OF A LOT of sea ice up their little griff.

FAR MORE than for most of the last 10,000 years.

Yes , your whole post is a shameful, ignorant-denialist, mendacious piece of fake yapping..

Patrick MJD
Reply to  griff
November 30, 2020 3:19 pm

One has to ask if ice was so thin and at low levels why would the Russians be building more powerful ice breakers?

Patrick MJD
Reply to  griff
November 30, 2020 5:22 pm

“griff November 30, 2020 at 7:18 am

…you look like a troll at times as well) SUNMOD”

At times? I would argue that it is all the time.

commieBob
November 30, 2020 7:36 am

… freezeup this year …

I have no idea what’s happening. It seems that the overall ice extent is lower than that of 2012 (for this date) although it’s higher than 2016. charctic Additionally, the temperature north of 80 has been quite warm since the end of the melt season. link Under those conditions you wouldn’t expect an early freeze up but the arctic is a big place and isn’t the same everywhere.

As it stands, I wouldn’t predict a robust ice cover going into the next melt season. The alarmists might say that would be bad for Polar Bears. The evidence is that it might be good for them. Too much ice at the wrong place and the wrong time reduces the seal population thus depriving the bears of their prey.

fred250
Reply to  commieBob
November 30, 2020 11:47 am

There is a pocket of “warmer than normal” air sitting over parts of the Arctic

https://climatereanalyzer.org/wx/DailySummary/#t2 [Click on 2m anomaly]

Its still very cold, just a little bit warmer than normal.

This WEATHER pattern is stalling sea ice production in the Bering Strait and Kara Sea region.

Its also allowing more energy to escape to space. !

fred250
Reply to  fred250
November 30, 2020 12:31 pm

I would love to see that “COLD” blob currently over Kazakhstan, swing around and sit over the UK for a while.

That would cause all sorts of havoc in the UK, severely stressing their electricity supplies, and hopefully giving the griff a taste of WEATHER that he can enjoy 😉

Ron Long
November 30, 2020 9:07 am

Hey, you racist SOB’s, how about a Ringed Seal update?

[+sumthun -mod]

tad dickerson
November 30, 2020 10:01 am

BBBUUURRRPPP! 1

Loydo
November 30, 2020 12:01 pm

“A graph of ice cover over the Kara Sea for the last five years (NSIDC Masie, below), shows that 2020 was only the second lowest in recent years after 2016.”

“only…, recent years”? You mean the second lowest in the satellite record.
Stop disinforming.

fred250
Reply to  Loydo
November 30, 2020 12:54 pm

You are the one with constant mis-information

The satellite record is a measly 40 years long starting at the highest EXTREME HIGH extent since the LIA COLD anomaly. A meaninglessly short period.

Current levels of sea ice are FAR higher than most of the last 10,000 years

STOP DENYING CLIMATE CHANGE Loy-dumb. !!

fred250
Reply to  Loydo
November 30, 2020 12:57 pm

MASIE has Kara about half full, Chukchi half full, Greenland Sea near the highest for this time of year

Beaufort FULL, East Siberian FULL, Laptev FULL, Canadian Arctic FULL,

Hudson Bay, well above average

There is still ONE HECK OF A LOT of sea ice up their little loy-dumb.

FAR MORE than for most of the last 10,000 years.

David Kamakaris
Reply to  Loydo
November 30, 2020 1:55 pm

Loydo, just to be clear, the satellite record is the extent of your record?

How much sea ice do you think there would have been during the mid-Holocene Optimum when spruce trees covered the tundra, you know, where it is too cold today for trees to grow today?

Gerald Machnee
Reply to  Loydo
November 30, 2020 4:30 pm

Of course you missed the important part L”

THE MINIMUMS HAVE SHOWN NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE FOR OVER 12 YEARS WHICH MEANS THE ICE IS NO LONGER DECREASING AS THE FEAR MONGERS SUGGEST.

November 30, 2020 4:45 pm

Do Bears like ice?

002.4 Million year Pleistocene … Arctic ice present for perhaps 90% of the time.
541.0 Million year Phanerozoic Eon … No arctic ice at all, except occasional glaciations.

All animal life forms that can be seen with the naked eye evolved in the Phanerozoic.
Ice has been present for perhaps 10-20% of the Eon, during 3-4 ice-house periods. The natural state of the North is: no ice.

While I am happy there is plenty of ice for the bears at the moment, in order to quell alarmism, here is a contrary idea: Polar Bears might “like it better” with no ice. They might do better. After all, where would the seals give birth? Isn’t it easier to hunt seal babies on land rather than on ice floes? I don’t think the seals can give birth and nurse infants in the open ocean, right? If there were no ice, they’d have to give birth on land.

Polar bears evolved 800,000 years ago. Isn’t it logical that the adaption of white fur (over their black skin) is a coping mechanism when the Eon-long state of the North — no ice — suddenly went away? If they evolved from brown bears or grisly, why would those bears have moved into the Arctic during glaciation? Perhaps the pre-Polars were in the North for millions of years, happily prospering in the no-ice conditions.

The pesky seals and their babies dive into a hole in the ice and go deep. So, times are tough for bears now, glaciation or interglacial.

griff
December 1, 2020 12:12 am

https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

If you follow that link, you’ll see a map of sea ice extent top left…

If you look, there are orange lines marking the median ice extent in past decades… and you’ll see the ice is nowhere near them in the majority of seas. That indicates that ice is behind, not ahead in most regions.

Here’s a graph of the extent: second lowest in the record… not likely many seas are in advance if its that low?
https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2975.0;attach=293246;image

and if I get time later, I’ll paste in th individual sea ice extent for the Bering, Barents, Kara, chuckchi and you can see that these are at record lows, not good news for bears, and not in advance of anything. Or you can go look yourselves.

Evidence shows the statements made at the head of this article and its premise this is good for bears to be FALSE

David Kamakaris
Reply to  griff
December 1, 2020 7:39 am

Griff, how long is your record?

2hotel9
Reply to  griff
December 1, 2020 9:10 am

griffie? When is the Arctic going to be ice free? It is still covered with ice, just as it has been for throughout human records. It is covered now, Polar Bears are thriving, seals are thriving, walrusi are thriving, oil and gas drillers are thriving and Eskimos are thriving. Give us a precise date for when they are all going to drown in an ice free Arctic.

Reply to  2hotel9
December 1, 2020 12:31 pm

griff seems to have forgotten all the failed predictions of an ice-free arctic. Scientists claim that was going to happen by 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2018. Al Gore said it would happen before now too.

But this time it will really happen, right?
https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-years-of-failed-eco-pocalyptic-predictions/

2hotel9
Reply to  Ralph Dave Westfall
December 1, 2020 1:56 pm

griffiepoo has forgotten nothing, it is the same environdiot it has always been, and it hates Doc Crockford with a self-loathing drenched passion.

fred250
Reply to  2hotel9
December 1, 2020 3:31 pm

griff HATES basically EVERYTHING, especially Arctic sea and land creatures.

Part of being an unemployable, government-dependent, ultra-leftist stooge

Only thing he luvs and wants more of, is sea ice.,

Yet I bet he would not go and live up there, loves his cosy southern UK warmth too much.

2hotel9
Reply to  fred250
December 2, 2020 10:33 am

Perhaps I should call Boris and ask he send the Great Climate Warrior griff to England’s Arctic monitoring station so he can save the world for us. Random Excuse Generator would go into meltdown at griffie’s flophouse.

fred250
Reply to  griff
December 1, 2020 1:09 pm

WRONG AS ALWAYS, griff-twerp.

Arctic sea ice is FAR ABOVE the average for the last 10,000 years

Only a small amount down from the ANOMALOUS EXTREME HIGH extents of the LIA and 1970s

STOP DENYING CLIMATE CHANGE….

…. it makes you look like NOTHING but a mindless little troll.

TOO MUCH sea ice , like during the LIA and 1970s makes it hard for Arctic life.

The RECOVERY has been a boon for Arctic sea creatures

Not only is the land surface GREENING, but the seas are also springing BACK to life after being TOO COLD and frozen over for much of the last 500 or so years (coldest period of the Holocene)

The drop in sea ice slightly toward the pre-LIA levels has opened up the food supply for the nearly extinct Bowhead Whale, and they are returning to the waters around Svalbard.

https://partner.sciencenorway.no/arctic-ocean-forskningno-fram-centre/the-ice-retreats–whale-food-returns/1401824

The Blue Mussel is also making a return, having been absent for a few thousand years, apart from a brief stint during the MWP.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0959683617715701?journalCode=hola

Many other species of whale are also returning now that the sea ice extent has dropped from the extreme highs of the LIA. Whales cannot swim on ice. !

https://blog.poseidonexpeditions.com/whales-of-svalbard/

Great thing is, that because of fossil fuels and plastics, they will no longer be hunted for whale blubber for lamps and for whale bone.

Evidence shows that bears are doing exceptionally well with the RECOVERY of sea ice from those anomalous extreme high extents

Evidence shows that griff is a mindless , ignorant twit incapable of accepting REALITY.

Evidence shows that griff HATES ARCTIC SEA LIFE.

fred250
Reply to  griff
December 1, 2020 1:21 pm

Beaufort Sea: FULL
Chukchi Sea: above 2007, 2017, 2019
East Siberia Sea: FULL
Laptev Sea: FULL
Greenland Sea: above all years back to 2006, except 2013 and 2015
Baffin Bay: just a tad below normal for this time of year
Canadian Archipelago: FULL
Hudson Bay: Well above 15 year average, only yea higher were 2009, 2013, 2014 and 2018
Bering Strait. Affected by WEATHER , but still above 2007 and 2018

So, only Kara and Barent struggling a bit.. You do know what WEATHER is , don’t you griff-idiot !!

fred250
Reply to  griff
December 1, 2020 3:27 pm

poor ignorant griff,

Despite the anomalous not-so-cold blob above the Siberian coast line, sea ice is close to forming around Svalbard.

Did you know that in the 1920’s sea ice didn’t even form on the north coast of Svalbard in WINTER !!!

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Did you also know that the 1970s were an ANOMALOUSLY HIGH EXTENT

First time Iceland had seen sea ice in 40 years !!!

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I know its POINTLESS trying to educate you, because you CANNOT allow REALITY into your tiny mind. would cause a minor implosion.

But others need to know THE FACTS. !

2hotel9
December 1, 2020 9:16 am

All that ice is awfully inconvenient for the warmunistas like griffie, forces them to tell yet more lies which I am certain makes them feel,,,,,,who the f***k am I kidding, they love to lie, its all they got.

Still waiting to hear back from ADFG about getting Polar Bear hunting tags, need some lead time to save up some money.

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