Time: The US Must Regain Global Climate Trust by Offering “Tangible Support”

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Will the world give the USA a chance to regain respect as a global climate leader? According to time, it depends on John Kerry’s diplomacy and how much “tangible support” the USA can offer.

Joe Biden Says the U.S. Will Lead on Climate. But First He Has to Regain World Leaders’ Trust

BY JUSTIN WORLAND  NOVEMBER 24, 2020 8:23 PM EST

Joe Biden named former Secretary of State John Kerry to a new top position on global climate policy, a public step toward what the President-elect has promised will be a renaissance in American leadership on the issue.

Activists who hope climate change will play a central role in the new administration cheered the news, but both Kerry and Biden have their work cut out for them. After four years under Donald Trump, the Biden Administration inherits a badly bruised international reputation. Trump repeatedly denied the science of climate change, rolled back dozens of environmental and emissions-reduction regulations, and earned the derision of nearly 200 nations who co-signed the Paris Agreement on climate change when he announced the United States’s withdrawal from the pact six months after taking office.

To turn the page on the Trump era and re-establish the U.S. as a global leader on climate, Biden and Kerry must rapidly accelerate emissions-reduction policies domestically and offer tangible support to partner nations that are making progress abroad. Crucially, allies say, the U.S. will need to reengage the world with a recognition that Washington can no longer unilaterally dictate the terms of engagement. “We have to reenter this field, when we join our allies, with a great sense of humility,” says Gina McCarthy, the former Environmental Protection Agency head who is now the president of the Natural Resources Defense Council. “We have a great deal of trust that we have to rebuild across the world.”

Read more: https://time.com/5915120/biden-climate-change-world/

Ah, humility. Let the feeding frenzy begin. I mean it is not like anyone in the USA needs the tax money Kerry and Biden apparently plan to ship to various United Nations climate initiatives, to make amends for Trump turning off the money tap.

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November 25, 2020 6:14 pm

Kerry is a certifiable nutjob on climate.
But the danger extends beyond one functionary.
Recent articles indicate that if the Dems take the White House, reprisals will come down on all Trump supporters.
As with the Soviet Union in the 1930s.
Opposition to authoritarian movement is not allowed.
It is eliminated.

Reply to  Bob Hoye
November 25, 2020 6:49 pm

Yes, the problem with any kind of authoritarianism is that once the propaganda fails, all that’s left to maintain power is heavy handed oppression. Nothing works better at quieting the opposition if to oppose means to risk disappearing. We’ve already seen this in the data space …

gbaikie
Reply to  Bob Hoye
November 25, 2020 7:37 pm

Well, it’s not as though US military is loyal to govt that isn’t loyal to US constitution.
Soviets were also not as armed as US citizens {no country is, though Swiss are required to have guns {so they have a higher percent of public- but I mean in sheer numbers}.

Biden is poor leader, all he can do add to corruption- and depending how count it, US could said to have a lot corruption in various aspects. And doubt few “respectable” nations have something as bad as our FBI. And US open borders is probably worst in world and could seem as corruption. Or Mexico said to be bad in terms corruption, and we open borders to it. And wide open door to any drug shipment on the planet- not mention a way for terrorists to get into US.
Or if worried about corruption, you are kind of late to that issue.
I think I might like Biden, better than Obama. And what was good about Obama is he destroyed the Dem party- in recent history Dems were in firm in control of US.
Keep in mind, no one wanted Biden, and if he won the election it would be because a lot people didn’t want Trump. I can understand how Trump the destructor could be scary.
Freedom is quite scary for the many.
Trump should go on a long and deserved vacation.
And having the dems a lot whine about it.
Problem is, too much relaxation could be bad for Trump’s health.
Maybe do Trump rallies in Australia.

Gerald Machnee
Reply to  gbaikie
November 25, 2020 8:07 pm

Biden did not “win” the election. Some of us know what really happened.

paul courtney
Reply to  Gerald Machnee
November 26, 2020 4:44 am

Gerald Machnee: Agreed. And note this- during the summer, some demanded that others kneel and proclaim certain lives matter. Now, they seem to use the same technique, we must kneel and proclaim the election 100% clean for Biden. Disagree and get disappeared from “platforms”.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Gerald Machnee
November 26, 2020 4:48 am

Yeah, of course you do. Just keep telling yourself that.

gbaikie
Reply to  Gerald Machnee
November 26, 2020 9:14 am

I thought US voters would elect Trump in a landside, and they did.
BUT the Deep State is a thing.
The FBI violated US constitution- thereby betrayed the American public. And it seems US intel are bunch globalists, thereby have been undermining the American public for decades- or are bunch traitors to US constitution. We were long warned about the military industrial complex. Plus got the corporate owned media which one could separate from corporate internet media, but it’s basically the same thing, other then they have special legal protection making them more unaccountable to American public.
BUT all above is not as bad as the teacher unions, who are obviously currently destroying the lives of American children, but have also doing this less obviously, for decades.

gbaikie
Reply to  gbaikie
November 26, 2020 10:07 am

Scott Adam can be tedious, but this seems less so. But only 1/2 thru it, and it’s long. Scott generally recommends listening at higher speed- and tend to forget to to this. But it’s related this thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBneSmKhCe8

{Though he hasn’t mentioned so far, the Teacher Unions, which he regards as systematic racism. And he is right about that.}

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  Gerald Machnee
November 26, 2020 11:08 am

Give up dude. The lawyers had their chance and could not produce any evidence. Its over. Move on.

Jim B
Reply to  Walter Sobchak
November 26, 2020 6:17 pm

Walter: Affidavits are evidence. And you produce your evidence AFTER the start of trial, ot when filing the complaint.

Lon
Reply to  Walter Sobchak
November 28, 2020 2:30 am

There are thousands of affidavits of election fraud:
* observers being illegally kicked out or prevented from doing their job. Windows were covered with poster board. Observers were placed in corrals 100ft away from the vote counting
* Eyewitnesses under oath report ballots run through multiple times, boxes of pristine ballots, all Biden votes, with identical markings, unmarked as to their source being brought to the counting tables. In PA for example, in one case there were 600,000 ballots with only 3220 trump votes. That’s 1/2%. I would bet that Trump got more than 1/2% in Harlem, NYC, but not Philadelphia?
– More mail-in ballots were returned than were sent out. Mail in ballots were returned before they were sent. 20K dead people voted.

Biden’s cheat will be overturned shortly, likely by the Supreme Court.

n.n
November 25, 2020 6:33 pm

The US must regain global climate trust by offering “tangible evidence” for [catastrophic] [anthropogenic] climate cooling… warming… change, undeniable, unfalsifiable. Otherwise, it is merely a pretense to force redistributive and retributive change in pursuit of consolidating capital and control under diverse single/central/minority schemes.

philincalifornia
Reply to  n.n
November 25, 2020 7:53 pm

I’m kinda wondering why the US must ?? The middle finger seems to be OK, so far.

paul courtney
Reply to  philincalifornia
November 26, 2020 4:51 am

phil: I think trust in USA is not a bad thing. For instance, it leads to Arabs and Israelis making peace. The irony I see is, the Gina McCarthys out there say “restore trust in US” as their actions destroy US credibility on every subject, including “climate” (by which Gina means whacko-enviro-activism).

Latitude
November 25, 2020 6:33 pm

The USA isn’t even on the radar any more…..China’s emissions are off the chart…and 2-3 times what ours are

…send more money to China

What’s this crap about “global climate trust”?……China lies about everything….does nothing…has no trust at all

we’re the idiots and suckers

Tim Gorman
Reply to  Latitude
November 25, 2020 6:41 pm

Not “we”. Just the Democrats. Loss of seats in CA to GOP challengers should be a wake-up call. Except to the elitist East Coast Democrats.

noaaprogrammer
Reply to  Tim Gorman
November 25, 2020 9:03 pm

Yes, Tim. The loss of seats in CA to GOP challengers is a harbinger of a conservative take-over of the house in two years. The world beware! The only thing Joe can do will be by executive order, which will be promptly done away with in 4 years when Trump comes back into the White House. (I can dream, can’t I?)

Rich Davis
Reply to  noaaprogrammer
November 26, 2020 5:37 am

The Grover Cleveland option

RockyRoad
Reply to  noaaprogrammer
November 26, 2020 6:30 am

Two years?

The mountain of evidence that demonstrates Democrats subverted the presidential election will reverse the fortunes of them all.

I’d be surprised if the Democrat party is allowed to operate after this– that criminal enterprise should be disenfranchised forever.

Therefore, this whole discussion is a fanciful waste of time.

Spetzer86
Reply to  noaaprogrammer
November 26, 2020 6:56 am

Hmm, See DACA. Not all EOs are just so much paper. Those passed by D’s appear to have the force of law and the backing of the courts. Although I’ve no doubt that JB already has enough political powers to make all Trump’s EOs disappear with a wave of a pen.

MarkW
Reply to  Eric Worrall
November 25, 2020 7:54 pm

If he’s anything like Clinton he’ll sell the crown jewels, but it will be his family that will be ones being enriched.

John
Reply to  MarkW
November 26, 2020 9:47 pm

Happiest man in America is Hunter Biden. No more investigations and his price for access to The Big Guy just went up 20 fold. Hunter will be spending plenty of time in China, but this time traveling there on Air Force One.

Tim Gorman
November 25, 2020 6:39 pm

Why even try to make more money if the government is just going to take it away with higher taxes and higher energy costs? Have none of these Washington insider-Democrats had even a minimal conversations with Democrats in California? Even Newsome has had to admit that wind and solar are not workable solutions. Why hasn’t Kerry figured that out from California’s experience? There are none so blind as those who will not see.

Richard
Reply to  Tim Gorman
November 25, 2020 7:49 pm

You have just stumbled one of the most predictable outcomes of socialism, the lack of incentive to work. More efficient or harder work is not rewarded above what a layabout gets so people do the bare minimum , stifling creativity and efficiency. It all goes downhill from there.

November 25, 2020 6:45 pm

“Global climate leader?”

Since when is being a sucker effective leadership?

Gunga Din
November 25, 2020 6:55 pm

Joe Biden Says the U.S. Will Lead on Climate. But First He Has to Regain World Leaders’ Trust

In other words, the USA must once again become the UN’s and the World’s trust fund.

Scissor
Reply to  Gunga Din
November 25, 2020 7:17 pm

Couldn’t we just send James Taylor over to sing “Fire and Rain” or something?

paul courtney
Reply to  Scissor
November 26, 2020 5:27 am

Scissor: Problem is, in exchange they send us Greta. And unlike James Taylor, she is SO over. USA can’t take the risk of world losing trust in our celebrity leadership by taking in celebs who are obviously past the sell-by date.

Scissor
Reply to  paul courtney
November 26, 2020 6:29 am

Yeah, I was thinking of this.

Scissor
Reply to  Scissor
November 26, 2020 6:35 am

This comment sums it up, “Historically, this remains as one of the most pathetically weak public displays of American support and resolve, ever. The fact that it was orchestrated by John Kerry should come as no surprise.”

Robert of Texas
November 25, 2020 7:19 pm

Exactly WHY do we need to build “Global Climate Trust” when we can’t even trust our own scientists and politicians?

This is just another chance for the left to give away more money they took from tax payers. And mark my words, it will be people on the left getting rich off of this. I have “trust” in that.

Let the subsidies roll on! Kill fossil fuels…

Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping must be laughing their butts off about now.

RT
November 25, 2020 7:20 pm

Biden has to pay off China, the UN and Europe to show how much he needs to regain their trust. The bank will need to be filled up with the funny money. Has Kerry been right on anything? One small step forward. 10 miles step backward. Got to love Progressives.

Bryan A
November 25, 2020 7:35 pm

I understand that the President Elect will be changing the Phone Number in the Oval Office.
Call J R BIDEN 877-CASH-COW
It’s Our money, use it when You Want it

CD in Wisconsin
November 25, 2020 7:57 pm

Every time I read something like this from the leftist mainstream media, I keep thinking that they should be required to lead by example for the reduction of CO2 emissions. That would include Time, the NYT, CNN, MSNBC, the LA Times, all of them.

What I have in mind is a game plan that involves selectively removing the biggest climate alarmist cheer leaders from the grid. These MSM climate whiners would have 12 months (okay 18 months) to switch the buildings they occupy to renewables as their primary (only?) energy source before being disconnected from the grid. If they believe the climate scare narrative and keep pushing it, they should lead the way in addressing it themselves.

The NYT has its own building in New York, does it not? Doesn’t CNN in Atlanta own and occupy its own building? This can be done folks. It would be interesting watching and waiting to see if they actually install solar panels on their roofs for their CO2-free electricity. If they object to the idea, they can install their own fossil fueled electric generators on their roofs. How they would get the generator up there would be their problem, but the hypocrisy would be hilarious.

I realize there is zero chance of this happening, but it is fun thinking about it every time one of them starts whining again about climate change. Taking bad tasting medicine isn’t always such a good idea when you have to take it yourself.

George
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
November 26, 2020 4:52 am

+1. It would be counterproductive for them to apply their logic to their own situation and lead by example. Why? It would not and cannot work according to their reasoning. Green energy is not workable and never will be the energy source these lunatics suggest. Pure fantasy to suggest otherwise. Where has critical thinking gone?

John F Hultquist
November 25, 2020 8:14 pm

Biden hasn’t had an original idea in his 47 years at tax payer expense. Now he is having the tax payers hire similarly dufus characters. This won’t end well.
John Kerry was involved in the 1992 Earth Summit in Rio where the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) was drafted.
He didn’t understand Earth dynamics (including climate) then, and hasn’t learned anything during the 29 years since.

November 25, 2020 8:14 pm

Bide, Harris and the Democrats will spend like drunken sailors on all sorts of moral window-dressing because there will be no effective electoral backlash. If people do attempt to vote them out at the 2024 elections, they will just turn on the Dominion Voting machines` reallocation ratio and push postal vote fraud even harder and squash any attempt at democracy.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
November 25, 2020 8:51 pm

unlikely since the Republicans are still extremely likely to control the senate and Mitch McConnell is the world expert in disruption and delaying tactics. He will do to Biden what he did to Obama and prevent him from passing any meaningful legislation. There is 4 more years of disfunctional, gridlocked government to look forward to.

MarkG
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 25, 2020 9:33 pm

Hardly.

If Harris is allowed to steal the Presidency so blatantly, they’ll just steal the Senate next. Who’s going to stop them?

I’ve already seen Democrats online telling people to register illegally in Georgia to try to steal the Senate seat.

If Trump can’t overturn the fraud, the US is done. Democrats will simply steal any political office they want.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  MarkG
November 25, 2020 10:46 pm

Mark,
how come they managed to steal the presidential election so successfully that not a single case of fraud has been proved or anyone being arrested and yet failed to win back the senate? It is hard to be both that smart and that stupid simultaneously.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 25, 2020 11:53 pm

Eric,
Firstly the various lawsuits about observers not being allowed in have been thrown out and the vote in Pennsylvania has been certified. Secondly even if the claims are true how do you know which votes to recount and there is again no evidence of fraud and so no reason to throw out votes or get them recounted. Throwing out millions of votes just because an unkown number of them might be fake (and Trump’s lawyers have not claimed any fraud in court) is too extreme an remedy and so will not be allowed.

fred250
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 26, 2020 1:35 am

Izzak treat vote counts, like climate scientist treat data. !

rah
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 26, 2020 2:06 am

Izaak, you better start getting some information from sources other than the MSM on
Fraud?
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/11/25/nevada-judge-sets-december-3rd-as-date-to-hear-election-fraud-evidence/

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/11/25/pennsylvania-judge-issues-injunction-against-certification-of-election-results/

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/11/25/crowd-gasps-laughs-as-pa-legislature-learns-of-ballot-upload-with-600000-votes-biden-and-3200-for-trump/

Plenty more than what I just posted is in play. As badly as you seem to want it, this election is not over by any means. The decision to allow mail in ballots to be counted after election day was allowed based on a ruling by the PA Supreme Court, when the Constitution clearly says that such decisions are only to be made by a States Legislature. In the meantime PA authorities have been busy destroying evidence of the fraud as fast as they can and it now impossible to reconstruct so that illegal votes can be separated from legal votes. So PA’s electors are most likely end up being appointed by the State legislature which controlled by Republicans.

I could go on to explain the problems the cheaters are facing in Michigan and Georgia, but really the bottom line is, it isn’t over until it’s over no matter what the liars in the MSM are saying.

Graemethecat
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 26, 2020 4:46 am

Explain the huge disparity of votes cast with registered voters in Detroit. Hint; the former is larger than the latter.

The thousands of affidavits alleging fraud are not evidence?

Izaak Walton
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 26, 2020 9:27 am

Graeme,
The claim about Detroit is easily shown to be false.
“In reality, Detroit reported 250,138 votes in the Nov. 3 election according to unofficial results published by the city, which is fewer than half of Detroit’s registered voters and just 37% of the city’s total population as of 2019.”
From
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2020/11/18/no-detroit-did-not-report-more-votes-than-people/?sh=7716f51baa72

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  MarkG
November 26, 2020 5:41 am

The hysterical claims that the election was “stolen” are, quite frankly, retarded.

paul courtney
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
November 26, 2020 7:47 am

Mr. Cobb: Retarded hysterics? OOOh that really stung.
Did you think you were posting at Mad magazine?

rah
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
November 26, 2020 8:05 am

Exactly the kind of thing that climate change proponents say about “deniers” Bruce.

rah
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
November 26, 2020 8:22 am

Understand that Rudy, Sidney, and all the other lawyers declaring publicly that there was massive cheating and specific claims of such evidence are subject to the laws for slander and such.

Giuliani Points Out Major Problem with Mail-In Ballots in Pennsylvania: Only 1.8 Mail-In Ballots Were Sent Out – But 2.5 Million Were Counted (VIDEO)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/giuliani-points-major-problem-mail-ballots-pennsylvania-1-8-mail-ballots-sent-2-5-million-counted-video/

I really can’t understand anyone that doesn’t think that claims of massive voter fraud should be looked into. That is unless they support the outcome no matter what.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
November 26, 2020 9:22 am

Rah,
Giuliani claim about the number of mail in ballots being sent out is false. Over 3 million people applied for mail in ballots in Pennsylvania. See
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-pennsylvania-elections-voting-2020-presidential-elections-b1fe12514c3a736ec33f84e4ce7e4161

And it is worth noting that none of these claims are being made in court. In court they are only alleging irregularities in procedures not fraud.

rah
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
November 26, 2020 11:37 am

In PA the claim that only the legislature and not the state supreme court can regulate election rules most certainly has been filed and the state supreme court, the very same court which overstepped it bounds by regulating elections, shot it down so it’s on it’s way to Federal court. Then there is this filing:https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/11/25/pennsylvania-judge-issues-injunction-against-certification-of-election-results/

“Pennsylvania Judge Issues Injunction Against Certification of Election Results…

As for the rest, they briefed the PA legislature, which IS the controlling authority in a hearing just yesterday!

Is there any end to the thing you think you know but you don’t? I doubt it.

Michael Jankowski
Reply to  Izaak Walton
November 26, 2020 3:27 pm

“…He will do to Biden what he did to Obama and prevent him from passing any meaningful legislation. There is 4 more years of disfunctional, gridlocked government to look forward to…”

Yeah, stuff like Obamacare wasn’t “meaningful.” Maybe you’ve heard of it, or it’s official name – “the Affordable Health Care Act?” What rock do you live under?

Your definition of government apparently is legislation. The Founding Fathers did not want easy legislation. They designed a system that would make it difficult for new laws to be passed or changed without overwhelming support. Gridlock is their system working. And if the people don’t like the gridlock of the first two years, they can make changes to a number of Congressional seats in 2022.

Peta of Newark
November 25, 2020 8:51 pm

Quote:
“Trust by Offering “Tangible Support””

See how much siht we’re in…..

You Do Not *Buy* Trust.
period

Loydo
November 25, 2020 9:00 pm

‘If people do attempt to vote them out at the 2024 elections, they will just turn on the Dominion Voting machines` reallocation…”

I thought that theory had been debunked.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Loydo
November 26, 2020 6:50 am

Yes, Biden said so. Just like he informed us that Hunter did nothing wrong. Totally, totally debunked. These are not the voting fraudsters you are looking for.

rah
November 25, 2020 9:10 pm

Biden is NOT President elect as of yet. And apparently for he who would be King, gaining (buying) the “trust” of the leaders of other countries is more important than trying to gain the “trust” of over 70 million of his own citizens.

Ross
November 25, 2020 9:32 pm

Still waiting for the UN/IPCC to offer tangible evidence of man made climate change

Redge
Reply to  Ross
November 25, 2020 11:49 pm

The UNIPCC don’t need to offer tangible evidence, there are plenty of quockerwodgers in politics, the media, climate science, etc, to do the UNIPCC’s bidding.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Redge
November 29, 2020 1:24 pm

“quockerwodgers”

Gezundheit!

fred250
November 25, 2020 9:52 pm

Under Trump, I had plenty of TRUST that the USA wouldn’t do anything unduly STUPID about so-called “Climate Change”.

The USA was one of the only western countries with a reasonably level head about this fantasy.

Under a dementia Jo, commo Harris, brain-dead dumb and ignorant Kerry, combination…

…. I expect COMPLETE and UTTER STUPIDITY.

All trust will disappear like a puff of unicorn farts !

Dave
November 25, 2020 9:53 pm

“Tangible support” means money, right????

LdB
Reply to  Dave
November 26, 2020 12:15 am

Yes in brown paper bags

paul courtney
Reply to  LdB
November 26, 2020 7:38 am

Ldb: No, for money to foreign folks dems prefer pallets. The brown paper bags are for ballots. Notice the virtue signaled, paper not plastic.

Flight Level
November 25, 2020 11:35 pm

Time to apply for grants for my wind powered biodynamic fully recyclable airliner startup venture?

I’d better hurry-up before corruption reaches en-route altitudes putting uncharted obstacles to anything that flies.

SAMURAI
November 26, 2020 12:15 am

Many Leftists have openly admitted the CAGW scam has nothing to do with climate, but is merely a Trojan Horse concocted to destroy capitalism and implement Socialistic wealth redistribution on a global scale….

Now America hilariously has a Cabinet-level “Climate Czar” who will try to implement this insane and nefarious Leftist objective…

Oh, goody….

I hope intelligent voters in Georgia will elect the 2 GOP senators in their runoff election to assure the GOP keeps control of the senate.

If Leftists take control of all three branches of government:
1) $trillions will be wasted on CAGW.
2) they’ll stack SCOTUS with 6 new Leftist judges forever…
3) they’ll grant amnesty to 20~30 million illegal aliens to assure the GOP never has control of any branch of government forever.
4) they’ll grant statehood to DC and Puerto Rico to stack the Senate forever.
5) they’ll end the senate filibuster rule.
6) destroy healthcare with Medicare for all.
7) etc,, etc., etc.,

What a mess…

griff
Reply to  SAMURAI
November 26, 2020 2:45 am

Climate science has nothing to do with left wing politics.

The real left don’t care about climate change as the have a vested interest in old industries and their remaining but fading unions.

your points 2 through 6 have nothing to do with climate. Your first point is invalid.

SAMURAI
Reply to  griff
November 26, 2020 7:36 am

CAGW is a Leftist political phenomenon, not a physical one.

Even Leftists admit CAGW is really about abolishing capitalism and replacing it with global Socialsim.

If Leftists actually believed in the absurd CAGW hypothesis, they’d advocate a rapid increase in nuclear power, and not even consider the insanely expensive, intermittent, unreliable and inefficient alternative energies of wind and solar.

fred250
Reply to  griff
November 26, 2020 11:17 am

griffs’s little “make-believe” land , as always.

It is ignorant of everything, so just MAKES UP CRAP to suit his addled-brain fantasies.. !!

Rich Davis
Reply to  SAMURAI
November 26, 2020 7:00 am

Sadly all true Samurai.

Pls don’t feed the trolls folks. Happy Thanksgiving

William Haas
November 26, 2020 12:17 am

The reality is that, based on the paleoclimate record and the work done with models, one can conclude that the climate change that we have been experiencing is caused by the sun and the oceans over which mankind has no control. Despite the hype, there is no real evidence that CO2 has any effect on climate and there is plenty of scientific rationale to support the conclusion that the climate sensitivity of CO2 is zero. If CO2 really did affect climate then one would expect the the increase in CO2 over the past 30 years would have caused at least a measurable increase in the dry lapse rate in the troposphere but that has not happened. It is all a matter of science. Mankind just does not have the power to stop Mother Nature from slowly changing the climate as has been happening for eons. But even if we could somehow stop the Earth’s climate from changing, extreme weather events and sea level rise would continue unabated because they are part of the current climate. Mankind does not even know what the optimum climate is let alone how to achieve it To better protect ourselves from the ravages of extreme weather events, the best we can do is to improve the global economy as mush as possible. Wasting time and money pursuing climate control over which mankind just does not have the power is very counter productive. There are many good reasons to be conserving on the use of fossil fuels but climate change is not one of them. These guys have got to be crazy to waste the taxpayer’s money on this.

griff
Reply to  William Haas
November 26, 2020 2:48 am

The physics is quite clear: more CO2 must raise global temperatures.

The sun has been in a period of lower activity for some while.

The measurements of the troposphere to me seem so dependent on adjustment and proxy that they can mean whatever you like.

There is clearly and evidentially climate change on top of historical/natural drivers, caused by the new and additional factor of human CO2

Flight Level
Reply to  griff
November 26, 2020 4:15 am

Explain & prove the importance of “clearly and evidentially” .

Graemethecat
Reply to  griff
November 26, 2020 4:52 am

You have been asked many, many times to present hard, empirical evidence that atmospheric CO2 controls temperature, and not vice versa. Where is it? Computer modelling is not evidence.

F1nn
Reply to  griff
November 26, 2020 5:42 am

Explain & prove “must raise global temperatures.”

David Kamakaris
Reply to  griff
November 26, 2020 6:18 am

“The physics is quite clear: more CO2 must raise global temperatures.”

Then explain the sharp decrease of global temperatures during the 1950’s – 1970’s and consensus-driven prognostications of an impending ice age while atmospheric CO2 were increasing at, what you would call a catastrophic rate?

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  griff
November 26, 2020 7:59 am

Clearly, Griffypoo is an idiot.

Reply to  griff
November 26, 2020 9:20 am

Global measured data for the last 60 years “clearly” contredicts your first and last statments.

fred250
Reply to  griff
November 26, 2020 11:21 am

“The physics is quite clear: more CO2 must raise global temperatures.”

Griff’s little MAKE-BELIEVE nonsense , as always

You have ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE for that mantra regurgitation of scientifically unsupportable NONSENSE

And you have shown many times that you haven’t got a clue about physics or any other facet os real science.

Stop your idiotic trolling for attention. !

fred250
Reply to  griff
November 26, 2020 12:15 pm

“The sun has been in a period of lower activity for some while.”

Is that based on IGNORANCE , yet again??? or just a LIE. !

30 year trailing average TSI looks like this……. ( 30 years is “climate” 😉 )

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Solar energy is still as high as it has been since the LIA.

N. Jensen
November 26, 2020 3:50 am

Given Bidens age and health issues, he will not be able to conclude his term as President.

Then Kamala Harris will take over.

But what happens if he dies before inauguration ?

What does the Constitution say ?

Rich Davis
Reply to  N. Jensen
November 26, 2020 7:13 am

If he dies after the Electoral College votes for him, then Komrade Harris becomes President-Elect.

If he dies before the EC votes, then likely the bound electors would vote for Harris. That could be challenged when the EC vote is counted, but since the House is controlled by the Dems, the challenge would be voted down.

Pray for Dementia Joe! He must live for fifty more months.

Nik
November 26, 2020 3:57 am

Tangible support?

Build more nuclear power stations.

Bruce Cobb
November 26, 2020 4:50 am

The first thing to do is apologize: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gi9zFRBCIM

max
November 26, 2020 5:13 am

We’ve spent most of a year living just a bit better than the Klimat Kartel would like us to, just how much money do they think the US can afford? It’s not like Kerry is an amazing negotiator, he married his money, twice.

Bruce Cobb
November 26, 2020 5:57 am

On the one hand we have “election fraud” whackos, and on the other we have “climate change” whackos. Emotionalism is running rampant.

RT
November 26, 2020 6:09 am

Griff strikes again. The lack of understanding of any physics is shown again. He does have one thing right that certain adjustments and proxies can mean anything. Just look at the 35 years of climate models that prove nothing except propaganda belief in the climate CO2 religion. Given the fact that the actual recorded temps (Just ask the liar Mr. Mann) for the last 100 years + have been erased and adjusted to prove the point of Global Warming/ Climate Change. Reality has no place in that religion. Who needs evidence. Must destroy the west for China and the UN. They want all our wealth for themselves.

Coach Springer
November 26, 2020 7:14 am

If the EIA (Energy Information Agency) is correct, the US CO2 emissions are at 1980 levels. So, F. O.

beng135
November 26, 2020 7:47 am

Does anybody really know what “Time” is? Does anybody care?

nt/ Chicago

John F Hultquist
Reply to  beng135
November 26, 2020 9:09 am

Time – –
(a) I think there is a magazine with that name; or
(b) it might be a continuum that is measured in terms of events which succeed one another from past through present to future; or
(c) a word that when concatenated with another helps you function in the real world; such as “Beng, it is past your bedtime.”

Gordon A. Dressler
November 26, 2020 8:08 am

Hmmmm, Time magazine? . . . hey, isn’t that the rag that some time ago appointed a child, named Greta Thunderberg or something like that, as a “Person of the Year” for doing something that was reportedly important?

I’m guessing that John Kerry is now in the lead be Time’s next “Person of the Year”, for whatever that’s worth, as they try to stay relevant to the climate crisis™ meme, despite dwindling subscriptions.

George Daddis
November 26, 2020 8:50 am

Interesting that Gina McCarthy is mentioned.
Some will recall that this former EPA head tried to avoid FOIA requests by adopting her dog’s name in official emails.

ResourceGuy
November 26, 2020 9:54 am

Actually, this could really blow up in the Dems faces from the combination of short lived stimulus boom and bust, falling dollar, rising import prices all before the mid term elections. They would be in continuous stimulus mode while things start to fall apart for investment and confidence. Some well placed tone deafness by Kerry and many others in that toxic environment could backfire much more than simply going back into silent mode.

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Michael Jankowski
November 26, 2020 3:31 pm

John Kerry, the dolt and the failure:

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  Michael Jankowski
November 27, 2020 8:01 am

So, of course, per bureaucratic rules of survival, monumental political failures need to be recycled into other positions of power so they can continue to display their ineptitude at public expense.

All hail our new Climate czar appointee!

And, BTW, terrific choice, Joe . . . I mean with Kerry’s extensive experience and scientific knowledge about climate, and all that stuff.

Tom Abbott
November 26, 2020 4:32 pm

From the article: “Activists who hope climate change will play a central role in the new administration cheered the news, but both Kerry and Biden have their work cut out for them. After four years under Donald Trump, the Biden Administration inherits a badly bruised international reputation.”

Says who? The Left? Who cares what the Left says, other than other leftists?

The Left always presumes to speak for everyone, even other nations. It stems from them being so arrogant.

Tom Abbott
November 26, 2020 4:39 pm

From the article: “To turn the page on the Trump era and re-establish the U.S. as a global leader on climate, Biden and Kerry must ”

Slow down a little bit. I heard Trump say tonight they have the evidence to prove massive voter fraud. So the page may not be turning.

I’m keeping the popcorn handy.

There have been a lot of “fair-weather friends” who have exposed themselves over the past few weeks. Wouldn’t that be embarrassing for them if Trump stays around as president for four more years.

I wouldn’t be able to stop laughing.

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