Top NOAA Scientist Fired For Demanding New Trump Appointees Comply with His Agenda

NOAA Data Manipulation USHCN
NOAA Data Manipulation USHCN. Source NOAA / Web Archive

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

h/t Krishna Gans / NotALotOfPeopleKnowThat; New boss appointed, immediately receives an email from an employee telling him what he is allowed to do. Employment terminated.

Top NOAA scientist is removed from his position after he asked new Trump-appointed staff to adhere to the agency’s integrity policy that bans changing research data to fit political agenda

  • NOAA acting chief scientist Craig McLean was removed from his position in September
  • McLean was forced to step down from his role after emailing new Trump appointees about the agency’s ethics policy, according to a NYT report
  • The NOAA scientific integrity policy prohibits fabrication, falsification, or the manipulation of research data to fit a political agenda
  • McLean’s email drew a sharp response from Erik Noble, the agency’s new Trump-appointed chief of staff
  • Noble the following morning informed McLean he would no longer serve as the agency’s acting chief scientist 
  • He was replaced by Dr Ryan Maue, a climate change critic and former researcher for the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank 


PUBLISHED: 01:35 AEDT, 29 October 2020 | UPDATED: 23:00 AEDT, 29 October 2020

The National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration’s top scientist has been removed from his position after he asked new Trump-appointed staff to acknowledge the agency’s scientific integrity policy, according to a new report. 

Craig McLean, the agency’s acting chief scientist, was dismissed from his role last month shortly after sending an email to the new political appointees, including former White House adviser Erik Noble, the New York Times reported. 

McLean had reportedly asked them to respect the NOAA’s scientific integrity policy which prohibits fabrication, falsification and manipulation of research data driven to fit a political agenda.

Read more:

NotALotOfPeopleKnowThat points out that, by their own now AWOL published numbers (see top of page), NOAA’s temperature records have been subject to some intriguing and substantial hockey stick shaped data manipulations over the years, a practice which apparently continued on Craig McLean’s watch.

Update (EW): Just to clarify, McClean’s employment as chief scientist was terminated, as far as I know he still works for NOAA.

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Curious George
November 1, 2020 6:08 pm

Insufficient data to comment.

Reply to  Curious George
November 1, 2020 9:17 pm

Well said. It’s impossible to tell what happened here from the conflicting information, for example:

Just to clarify, McClean’s employment as chief scientist was terminated, as far as I know he still works for NOAA.

Not sure how that clarifies. It confuses.

Did NOAA have a legitimately honest “data integrity” policy or can it be demonstrated that it was itself designed to politicize and give the appearance of being neutral? No evidence is presented and the graph, without explanatory background or a useful legend, is unhelpful.

It’s impossible to understand from this breathless post what the big deal is. I had to go to the post on NotALotOfPeopleKnowThat to get a better grasp and it’s still not crystal clear. Better writing, please.

Robert B
Reply to  stinkerp
November 1, 2020 10:14 pm

Really? He was removed as acting chief scientist for pretending he needed to tell his boss that massaging data is unscientific.

Resumes his previous role.


Reply to  Robert B
November 2, 2020 4:31 am

Pretty much anywhere besides bureaucracy:

Employee goes full “rules lawyer” on the new manager on his first day → fired

Reply to  Robert B
November 2, 2020 7:18 am

Linked to in the above article is “Not a Lot of People Know That”.

The last paragraph of the linked NotALotOfPeopleKnowThat article:

“As for Craig McLean, he is not the “Top Scientist”, as described by the Mail. He is in fact a lawyer, who has filled administrative roles at NOAA for many years. As such, he has carried out the political agenda of Obama and previous Presidents.

The only surprise is that he was not sacked years ago by Trump.”

Reply to  ATheoK
November 2, 2020 9:32 am

Yes, I was also wondering why Trump waited until the eve of the election to do some cleansing.

The NOAA scientific integrity policy prohibits fabrication, falsification, or the manipulation of research data to fit a political agenda

ROFL, that has not been a problem for the last 30 years, why is it a problem now ? OH, wrong agenda !

Tom Abbott
Reply to  ATheoK
November 2, 2020 12:59 pm

“Yes, I was also wondering why Trump waited until the eve of the election to do some cleansing.”

So many Swamp Critters, so little time.

Jeff Lehnen
Reply to  ATheoK
November 4, 2020 7:34 am

A lawyer is not a scientist, and certainly not a “chief scientist”. Never should be in the position in the first place.

Reply to  Robert B
November 2, 2020 7:43 am

There is no proof that he wasn’t about to lose his position as acting chief scientist, regardless of the email.

Reply to  Robert B
November 2, 2020 7:46 am

Exactly Robert B.

Acting Chief Scientist McLean’s detail (temporary assignment) is terminated.
That immediately returns McLean to his regular position.

If McLean’s regular position works for the Chief Scientist, then McLean just signaled to the Chief that he bears close watching and special attention to job description, performance and review.

If McLean does not work for the Chief Scientist (likely), he indicates some of corruption’s extent.
One should be suspicious if the legal department is controlling ethics, internal honesty and alarmism.

Reply to  stinkerp
November 2, 2020 9:48 am

1900 – 1999 (Final minus Raw)

Seems a pretty useful legend for the graph, to me.

very old white guy
Reply to  Curious George
November 2, 2020 2:22 am

Sounds like another democrat trying to do the opposite. Up is down, down is up.

Reply to  very old white guy
November 2, 2020 1:20 pm

Orwellian, for sure: Integrity means clever, lawyerly lying. Typical of progressives.

A clear colorless gas that we breathe out and which underpins all life on Earth is…..pollution!

Reply to  Curious George
November 2, 2020 11:23 am

Curious George
November 1, 2020 at 6:08 pm

Even with little data there.

Seems clearly more like how a new boss in his right mind should approach a clear case of narcissism.
Fast sharp clear and with no any regrets.
“You are fired”… the only working solution or remedy for narcissism, sociopathy or the worse,
psychopathy… in a work place or a business of any kind.

In such cases the rest makes no difference or has no any value whatsoever really, either in opinion
or propaganda.


Javert Chip
Reply to  whiten
November 3, 2020 4:34 pm


More or less agree, except these rats never actually get, you know, “fired”. They just get moved from one rat hole to another, still accruing pension benefits.

Net change = exactly zero

ps: Am I the only one wondering why a lawyer was the “acting chief scientist”? Has anybody ever seen a scientist as the “acting chief legal counsel”?

Reply to  Javert Chip
November 3, 2020 6:08 pm

Excellent question.

Jim B
Reply to  Curious George
November 2, 2020 3:12 pm

Sounds like insubordination to me. No other reason for such a request comes to mind.

Reply to  Curious George
November 2, 2020 3:45 pm

Curious George wrote, “Insufficient data to comment.”

One of the biggest problems in climatology and politics (which are too often the same thing) is people pretending to know things that they do not know. I have no problem with someone saying, “I do not know.”

“The most elementary and valuable statement in science, the beginning of wisdom, is, ‘I do not know.'”
– Jack B. Sowards (writer), as the character Lt Cdr Data (Brent Spinner), TNG S2E2

That said, there’s no question that some people at NOAA have been substituting political activism for science. That I do know.

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Joel O'Bryan
November 1, 2020 6:09 pm

Great to hear that Dr Maue has a GS-14/15 level job and the climate scammers embedded deep inside NOAA/NCDC should be worried. They can only hope Trump loses to Dementia Joe and the Marixists. Otherwise, it’s climate scam game-over.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
November 1, 2020 8:51 pm

I doubt the climate scam game will ever be over.

Sceptical lefty
Reply to  Chris
November 2, 2020 6:39 am

Unfortunately, you are probably correct.

Reply to  Chris
November 2, 2020 7:49 am

you’re right….Ryan is not the big critic he’s played up to be

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
November 2, 2020 7:35 am


If Dr. Maue is taking the Chief Scientist role of Hansen, then he will be in the SES ‘Senior Executive Service’ ranks, likely signing a negotiated contract.

That McLean was a lawyer acting in the Chief Scientist position provides evidence that the job is SES level, not administrative staff.

November 1, 2020 6:10 pm

So NOAA has a policy in place to ban fudging numbers and it has been fudging numbers for years?

Great alibi.. “We don’t fudge no numbers because we have a policy in place to prohibit fudging numbers.” Classic.

Laws of Nature
Reply to  rbabcock
November 2, 2020 6:01 am

I dont know.. Zeke makes some good arguments for the NOAA adjustments:


Reply to  Laws of Nature
November 2, 2020 7:30 am

Wow, that’s the most thorough and sober presentation I’ve seen of that side of the story. I’d really like to see a calm and responsible debate on this subject.

Reply to  Peter
November 2, 2020 11:09 pm

The pristine gold standard USCRN network shows zero warning since 2005.

This fact exposes much of the trucker employed by Zeke and others.
He cites the land-ocean temperature record, because the ocean temperatures are mostly made up before 1950, and he talks global averages because many global stations are equally bad.

Look at the best, high quality air temp data from the continental US, and the story changes. The raw data trends are consistent over time, and the ham handed time of observation adjustments are mostly bunk and assume that all station volunteers were morons.

The better the data quality, the fewer adjustments, the less warming you see, which is why the party is over with USCRN producing multi decade flatlines.

Reply to  Laws of Nature
November 2, 2020 8:26 am

If anything the more recent temps need to be adjusted down not up to allow for increase UHI effect due to encroaching development on the location of the temperature stations.

Reply to  Laws of Nature
November 2, 2020 10:20 am

Zeke’s explanations for adjustments are indeed credible. But the following is an example of why there remains a valid skeptical take on adjustments. Zeke mentions Karl’s 2015 paper adjusting buoy vs ship data. He states that this paper has “has since been validated by other studies.” Karl explicitly presented his 2015 paper as addressing the much-discussed hiatus, “These results do not support the notion of a ‘slowdown’ in the increase of global surface temperature.”

So, here is the important question: If the prospective temperature record had instead been tracking the models closely, would Tom Karl have gone through the same process of retrospectively discovering and correcting “artifacts of data biases” in the NOAA temperature record? Would he have published the same results in a paper in 2015? Is there a risk here of post hoc data adjustments that are biased in one direction, even if the adjustment procedure is done correctly in any given instance?

Reply to  Laws of Nature
November 2, 2020 10:57 am

over the full period when measurements are available, adjustments actually have the net effect of reducing the amount of long-term warming that the world has experienced.

That’s actually a lie but if you must believe you’ll believe.

Reply to  Laws of Nature
November 2, 2020 12:58 pm

Doesn’t agree with the published record of the data manipulations.

Thomas Gasloli
Reply to  Laws of Nature
November 2, 2020 1:50 pm

Meteorology & Climate Science are the only fields that allow “adjusting” raw data. They just are real science. And it is why their models don’t work.

Reply to  Laws of Nature
November 2, 2020 8:02 pm

The zeke should not mind proving why, in court.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  rbabcock
November 2, 2020 1:07 pm

“So NOAA has a policy in place to ban fudging numbers and it has been fudging numbers for years?”

Yes, that’s the case.

Ironic, isn’t it.

Contemptible is probably a better description. Contemptible, and extremely damaging to human society, on many fronts.

NOAA paying homage to data protection while at the same time bastardizing the global temperature record, is like Joe Biden saying he will bring us all together, when Biden is the one dividing everyone with his hateful rhetoric.

Hypocrits and Liars all.

Reply to  rbabcock
November 2, 2020 8:01 pm

“rbabcock November 1, 2020 at 6:10 pm
So NOAA has a policy in place to ban fudging numbers and it has been fudging numbers for years?”

It is Federal law to falsify or misrepresent data.
Bosses and their flunkys have been fired and occasionally prosecuted for falsifying data in other Federal Agencies and Departments.

The real question is why the relevant Inspector General has not written up NOAA “adjustments” and NOAA “misrepresentations” and forwarded their findings to Department Of Justice for prosecution?

It would be sweet for the wheels of Justice to catch up with the miscreants, all of the miscreants who falsify Federal data, adjust or delete inconvenient sensors and data, play statistical fallacies in their programs, etc.

November 1, 2020 6:14 pm


Komerade Cube
November 1, 2020 6:17 pm

So was he asking these new employees to acknowledge a policy that he was nor following? Or is the implication that the new employees are manipulating data?

Reply to  Komerade Cube
November 1, 2020 7:14 pm

That’s the implication that the “report” wants to make. The actual truth probably varies.

Reply to  Komerade Cube
November 2, 2020 3:43 am

I look at it this way….. an employee dared to tell the boss how to do his job while implying the new guy might not be completely unbiased. New guy is new, and the boss. What would happen in your job if they hired a new boss and you lectured him on how to do his or her job? You would have a short future with that company for sure. Add the fact that new guy is an appointee of the President of the United States. Discretion is ofter the better part of valor. If you don’t agree with the boss in a political arena, you’d best keep your mouth shut and find a new do-nothing job.

Reply to  Komerade Cube
November 2, 2020 4:50 am

From what I surmise, the email was preemptive. It’s a tactic sometimes done by an “irreplaceable” employee to browbeat the new boss into submission.

It only works if the employee is truly irreplaceable (usually not the case), or the owner’s idiot kid – otherwise it’s a quick way to the unemployment line.

Reply to  Patrick
November 2, 2020 3:26 pm

Or if you are covered under Civil Service protections: the boss can’t fire you. The boss might be able to reassign you though. Sounds to me like that is what happened in this case.
To truly drain the swamp would require draconian changes to federal civil service rules: very unlikely!

November 1, 2020 6:18 pm

Projection. Typical. Ever so slowly the tide is turning and the deep states top operatives being taken out. This is a part of the reason why they are so afraid of a Trump win. Word is Trump is really going to start to clean house after his reelection. He knows the lay of the land much better now and as after winning a 2nd term there is little to stop him.

So prepare to hear stuck pigs screaming night and day for four solid years.

Reply to  rah
November 2, 2020 4:59 am

So what cheese goes with that whine? I had better stock up!

Gary Pearse
Reply to  rah
November 2, 2020 6:42 am

Do felons and treasonous employees still get their fat pensions? Can these be reduced or taken away if a clear case can be made of fraudulent politically motivated manipulation?

Reply to  rah
November 3, 2020 6:15 pm

Several years ago during an election campaign in the fiefdom of Saanich BC, the Chief Administrative Officer was disparaging of a candidate for mayor, the CAO was saying things to staff.

The candidate became the new mayor, beating the incumbent in the election.

New mayor had a discussion with the CAO, who unfortunately had a golden parachute clause in his contract.

Future contracts are apparently written better for the municipality.

November 1, 2020 6:20 pm

Let’s hope transparent explanations for any adjustments or homogenization of raw data is forthcoming.

Tom Johnson
Reply to  Wayne Raymond
November 2, 2020 2:41 am

Your “hope” is accurate, but incomplete. Adjusting raw data can be an important scientifically accurate tool, PROVIDED the adjustments are noted, reproduceable, and complete. The raw data and final data must be readily available and comparable. The so-called “scientists” at NOAA and NASA have generally failed at this for decades, in my opinion.

Jim Gorman
Reply to  Tom Johnson
November 2, 2020 6:15 am

Exactly! Scientists use this info in studies of various things, mostly on a local or regional basis. If the data has been changed from the original raw data in order to meet some other requirement, i.e. homogenization, these scientists need to know this in order to accurately assess what is happening.

Studies of local phenomena that have used modified data to reach a conclusion should be withdrawn and redone with raw data.

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Wayne Raymond
November 2, 2020 9:29 am

Another iffy dimension to homogenization which is highly likely concerns station moves. A station move for good reason, like encroachment of city development influencing temperature is necessary. One should set up the new station and run both for 5 years to “homogenize” and I believe they once did this. But, I noticed that in every case without exception that temperature records questioned for showing cooling in the face of the hype on warming, the reply by Stokes and others was always, “yeah, but there was a station move”.

I began to suspect that station moves had become a degree of freedom exploited by fiddlers. Attention to this as a tool for enhancing warming where stations stubbornly are cooling should be considered in the big reset that has to occur.

Do you know that in antitrust cases against corporations where colluding on price fixing, predatory prices and other unfair trade practices is suspected, that a meeting having taken place between two corporations CEOs in an industry is sufficient evidence for a guilty finding. If there is an opportunity to do so, that is enough to assume things were rigged. Like highly incentivized climate alarmists, bottom line business men are tempted all the time.

Splitdog Homee
November 1, 2020 6:22 pm

Great first impression Numbnuts.

Reply to  Splitdog Homee
November 2, 2020 4:56 am

Yeah. It’s best to be absolutely certain that one is truly irreplaceable before testing that quality out upon the boss.

November 1, 2020 6:23 pm

“Prohibits fabrication, falsification and manipulation of research data..”
Headlines quoted clash.
The problem has been is that the G’ment climate agencies have been altering the raw data.
For political reasons.

Crispin in Waterloo but really in Carrying Place
Reply to  Bob Hoye
November 1, 2020 7:17 pm

Maybe the reason is not political. Maybe it is for another reason(s). The fact that certain politicians also see a pork barrel that needs emptying annually, does not make any agency “partisan”. They may simply be greedy.

The “trick” tried was to get the incoming guy to agree not to tamper with data (reverse changes already implemented) so they can say correcting it was a political act.

Tony Heller has provided excellent presentations on the adjustments made. NASA is changing the temperatures to line up the temperature with CO2 concentration. That will be very difficult from this year because no stretch can paper over the drop.

I suspect the real reason is an agenda that is larger than one political party. This level of science scam is international.

Doug S
Reply to  Crispin in Waterloo but really in Carrying Place
November 1, 2020 9:40 pm


November 1, 2020 6:28 pm

This why we need a Free Press, First Amendment and amnesty for whistle-blowers.

November 1, 2020 6:30 pm


The heading is misleading as well as the news story. McLean was not fired. He is a former NOAA Corps officer and now as a civilian, one of the Assistant Administrators that run NOAA’s main offices. He oversees the Office of Ocean and Atmospheric Research, a position in which he has done an outstanding job. For many years. He was asked not long ago to also serve as the Acting Chief Scientist. In that role, he sent that email that should have been responded to with just a “Thanks for the information!” There was no demand to adhere to any agenda. It was just a heads up of the agency’s science integrity policy.

In this case, Noble comes across as a petty, thin-skinned, political appointee that has no place in a government agency. Removing him from an acting position is really a meaningless gesture which McLean more than likely welcomed. Now he can go back to doing his real job.

S. Geiger
Reply to  Da’Kat
November 1, 2020 6:49 pm

Thanks for clarifying. The BS gets deeper and deeper.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Da’Kat
November 1, 2020 7:19 pm

McLean as a lawyer had NO business as NOAA chief scientist. Plenty of qualified PhDs there to fill that role.
No doubt Craig McLean is probably happy that he can go back to counting fish now, which is NOAA’s less well known job. Career government GS jobs like he has are supposed to be easy 9-5 M-F affairs, with plenty of paid time-off and sick days, with a great pension and healthcare into retirement and no political drama.

Ron Long
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
November 2, 2020 2:19 am

Joel, you re right that McLean was “a lawyer” in that he had a Juris Doctor degree. He started out with a BA (not BSc) in Zoology and worked on oceanographic related issues for NOAA. Then something changed, as he went back to school and got the JD. Reading his biography it becomes more activist and less sort of a scientist as his career goes along. The final chapter, for now, clearly shows he had become an environmental activist. My interpretation is that he became a swamp creature who attempted to control the narrative of a new supervisor in inappropriate ways, which met resistance.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Ron Long
November 2, 2020 1:19 pm

“My interpretation is that he became a swamp creature who attempted to control the narrative of a new supervisor in inappropriate ways, which met resistance.”

That’s my impression, too. He was putting Trump Climate Deniers on notice not to manipulate the NOAA manipulated data in order to disprove the Human-caused Climate Change claim.

Tim Gorman
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 2, 2020 2:45 pm


Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
November 2, 2020 9:11 am

Career government GS jobs like he has are supposed to be easy 9-5 M-F affairs, with plenty of paid time-off and sick days

Plenty of on-line porn viewing during working hrs too.

David Brewer
Reply to  Da’Kat
November 1, 2020 7:43 pm

Do you often send your boss e-mails questioning his/her professional integrity? I’m fairly confident that you wouldn’t get a “Thanks for the information” from your boss if you did that, and might find yourself getting fired (and if you are in private industry that would be real fired, not government fired aka reassigned.)

The e-mail “telling” his boss about the policy quite obviously was a veiled insult reminding him that McLean was really in charge and that he shouldn’t try to change what the man intended to do in his job as acting Chief Scientist. And he did send a follow up e-mail asking on what authority he offered this “reminder”. And was told “It’s my job as Chief Scientist.”… which given that he was talking to his BOSS screams crazy train. That is when he fired him. Blatant insults and insubordination aren’t normally tolerated by a new boss.

Reply to  David Brewer
November 1, 2020 11:39 pm

“Do you often send your boss e-mails questioning his/her professional integrity?”

And being published in newspapers all over the world no less.
In any companies I worked in, including NGOs, small companies and large corporations, this would be grounds for immediate dismissal. You would also have big problems being hired afterwards, as admitting to conflicts with your higher ups is a black mark on any job interview. And people do ask former employees for opinion.

Sending such an email is corporate sabotage – and no matter how much skilled a sabotager is, firing him will only improve a company.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  David Brewer
November 2, 2020 1:22 pm

“Do you often send your boss e-mails questioning his/her professional integrity?”

Nobody with any sense does. Unless you have a bigger agenda, like virtue signalling to your fellow Alarmists.

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Da’Kat
November 1, 2020 9:38 pm

Da K: An email like that to new bosses is an insolent inférence that because they are Trump appointees they have the clear intention to screw the data for political purposes.

Your certainty that this fellow has done a wonderful job needs more than your “feelings” in this area. What would you say about Karl’s creating a pretext and paper to get rid of the 18yr pause in temperature. He had argued when it was already pausing for 15 years that only after 17yrs would it cast doubt on the theory. When it went 18, he Karlized it out of existence as his last act before retirement – took one for the team so to speak.

Those of we critics and sceptics who are concerned scientists, engineers and statisticians have been following and critiquing the bad science, statistical chicanery and politically serving manipulations of the temperature and other atmospheric
and oceanic records around the world. NOAA and GISS of NASA are among the most culpable. Climategate emails released by an insider should have put an end to this agenda driven malpractice.

The game is basically up for these guys and life support for the Paris ‘agreement and other UN néomarxiste ambitions has basically been unplugged. If the US stands down, the world stands down.

Reply to  Gary Pearse
November 1, 2020 10:12 pm

“Those of we???” Those of US–because the pronoun is an indirect object. If you are uncertain of the grammar, I recommend you stick to colloquial expressions. Uneducated mistakes are more socially acceptable than half-educated mistakes.

Reply to  mikesmith
November 2, 2020 4:39 am

mikesmith — shouldn’t there be a “space” between mike and smith? Also it is normal convention to capitalize the first letter of proper names.

Gary Pearse
Reply to  mikesmith
November 2, 2020 5:31 am

Sorry mike, your wrong. It’s probably a bit complicated for you and it’s my fault. I added “Those of” afterwards for precision. Sometimes writing quickly we paint ourselves into a grammatical corner. It is the subject. Take off the “Those of” and re-read and the subject becomes clear (I hope). Also try: “We critics have been following and critiquing…

I’m not an American by the way. Your error wouldn’t make you so foolish had you been more polite about it.

Reply to  Da’Kat
November 1, 2020 11:59 pm

Bullshit man! He deserves what he’s got. You don’t patronise your boss y sending him whatever policies. That not his job.

Reply to  Da’Kat
November 2, 2020 1:26 am

You need to be informed of the posting policy on WUWT, no abusive language allowed.

You’re welcome.

Reply to  Da’Kat
November 2, 2020 6:30 am

I have family members that work for NOAA, Da’Kat’s take doesn’t match their opinions.
NOAA has a long history of fudging the numbers and McLean was in implying that a Trump appointment would NEED to be told not to fudge the numbers the wrong way.

Jim B
Reply to  Da’Kat
November 2, 2020 3:28 pm

Really? I would have done the same, or at least had the guy in for a lesson on chain of command.

Dennis G Sandberg
November 1, 2020 6:32 pm

NOAA acting chief scientist Craig McLean is saddened by the fact that all that data manipulation he oversaw is going away. Hurts.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Dennis G Sandberg
November 2, 2020 1:28 pm

We need a “Like” button! 🙂

Mike McMillan
November 1, 2020 6:32 pm

Dr Maue is a great choice, solid data guy.

Reply to  Mike McMillan
November 1, 2020 6:45 pm


I do agree with you on this one. He will be a much better fit for Chief Scientist than McLean.

BTW, should clarify that on my earlier post I’m not defending the data manipulators. However, those are not on McLean’s shop.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Mike McMillan
November 1, 2020 6:47 pm

I agree. Bringing integrity back to NOAA climate data. I hope Ryan can get a 4 year tenure there to start cleaning house on the government Climate Charlatans.

LOL@Klimate Katastrophe Kooks
November 1, 2020 6:32 pm

Is there a way of unwinding the alterations to the datasets to better reflect reality, or are the datasets forever corrupted with their past politically-motivated manipulation?

Jim Gorman
Reply to  LOL@Klimate Katastrophe Kooks
November 2, 2020 6:26 am

As I stated above, it’s not just the data base, but the studies based on invalid data. Lots and lots of unwinding! Maybe more than can be admitted to by government employees. It would sure make the stuff hit the fan.

Gary Pearse
Reply to  LOL@Klimate Katastrophe Kooks
November 2, 2020 8:01 am

Lol@: Most data sets can be restored, perhaps except for Australia’s (BOM) and New Zealands (NIWA) where data may have been destroyed . There are ways to corroborate world data sets by comparing their raw data sets. When you do you learn that the far flung stations record the major world temperature events. For example Capetown, South Africa (and as it turns out, all of sub Saharan Africa longterm records look strikingly similar in pattern). Capetown:

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United States:

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Reykjavik Iceland:

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Canada Greenland, Paraguay, Ecuador are all similar in the raw temp form (ie. as recorded by observers)

November 1, 2020 6:35 pm

The guy sent his boss an email warning him not to falsify data. So, he was accusing the boss of even thinking about falsifying data. What an insult. In fact, it’s insubordination and sufficient grounds for immediate dismissal.

Reply to  commieBob
November 1, 2020 6:57 pm

Yes, a color judgement that normalizes adversity. I’m surprised their bigotry didn’t evolve through protests, which seems to be the preferred means to occupy, intimidate, and cancel anyone who resists kneeling to the consensus.

Joel O'Bryan
November 1, 2020 6:42 pm

Background on McLean, BA in Zoology to Lawyer to NOAA’s top scientist under the Obama Admin. So who is the political appointee here?

His bio:
Craig N. McLean was named January 21, 2015, to head the office of Oceanic and Atmospheric Research (OAR) for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). He’s responsible for the agency’s research laboratories, climate program, National Sea Grant, and ocean exploration.

McLean was born August 21, 1957, and grew up on the Passaic River in Rutherford, New Jersey, at a time when the Passaic was too polluted to swim in. He began taking diving lessons at the age of 14 and soon performed decompression diving in order to explore deep-ocean shipwrecks. He worked on dive boats on weekends and when one client filmed the dumping of sewage, McLean took an underwater camera and recorded a sewage barge as it dumped a load on top of him.

He earned a B.A. degree in Zoology in 1979 from Rutgers University in New Brunswick, New Jersey. While at Rutgers, he gained his first experience with the NOAA, sailing on a ship that was investigating sludge dumping and its effect on public health.

After college, McLean worked for a diving company for two years and helped create a nonprofit marine education program for urban students. He then joined the NOAA Commissioned Corps. He began what was to become his almost 25-year association with the Corps as a deck officer and diving officer on a hydrographic survey ship, mapping nautical charts. He then worked at the National Marine Fisheries Service, specializing in developing sustainable fish harvesting strategies. He was executive officer on the Albatross and captain of the NOAA’s largest fisheries ship, the 225-foot Gordon Gunter. He was also deputy director of the National Marine Sanctuaries Program.

McLean returned school to become a lawyer, earning his Juris Doctor from the Quinnipiac College School of Law in Hamden, Connecticut, and did additional studying at George Washington University, the University of Maryland, and Georgetown University Law Center.

As an attorney, McLean practiced marine resource law for NOAA, and provided legal advice in the NOAA General Counsel’s office. He prosecuted violations of the Marine Mammal Protection Act and the Endangered Species Act. He was also the lawyer and deputy for the National Marine Sanctuary System.

In 2001, McLean was chosen to be the founding director of the NOAA’s Office of Ocean Exploration. In 2003 and 2004, he directed NOAA expeditions to study the sunken remains of the R.S.S. Titanic.

In 2006, McLean was named deputy assistant administrator for programs and administration of NOAA’s OAR. He subsequently served in NOAA as executive officer of the National Ocean Service. Beginning in April 2010, McLean was OAR’s acting assistant administrator.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
November 1, 2020 7:12 pm

As a lawyer, he knew exactly what he was doing as well as the probable outcome. There is no doubt in my mind that this was a piece of politically motivated mischief by one of the swamp critters.

Drain the swamp.

Len Werner
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
November 1, 2020 8:08 pm

McLean is an accomplished scientist. For a balance, this should be followed by background on Noble–

” Erik Noble, White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, Washington, DC

Dr. Erik Noble is the Senior Policy Advisor at the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP), where he is the White House lead for data and Earth observations policy. He is a co-chair of the interagency U.S. Group on Earth Observations and co-lead for the cross-agency priority goal of Leveraging Data as a Strategic Asset. Prior to joining OSTP, Dr. Noble served as a Senior Policy Advisor for NOAA and the Acting Chief of Staff of NASA. Erik briefly worked as a data science professional in the financial industry and as a Post-Doc Fellow and Adjunct Assistant Professor in atmospheric science at the City College of New York before joining the government. He received his Ph.D. in Environmental Science from the University of Colorado while conducting numerical modeling research at the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York City. He also earned an M.S. in Environmental Studies from the University of Colorado and a B.S. in Meteorology from the Pennsylvania State University.”

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Len Werner
November 1, 2020 8:31 pm

McLean is an accomplished scientist
(I’m actually belly laughing at that one… so …LOL)

Consensus science and government agendas value lawyer-scientists.
Real science… not so much.
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
November 2, 2020 9:33 am

(Thanks for catching that, Joel.)

My take so far is that this email was a ruse to try to protect the present manipulated data-set, and make Noble into ‘just a political appointee’ who could be accused of ‘falsifying’ already-falsified data if he tried to get them back to the real measurements. Noble saw through it–quite possibly because he’s an atmospheric scientist and not a lawyer with an Arts degree in Zoology–whatever that is, possibly someone who draws detailed pictures of a virus for which there are actually only fuzzy poor-resolution real SEM images?

Jim B
Reply to
November 2, 2020 3:44 pm

Len: Good catch, BA and not a BS in Zoology. As a retired lawyer with an undergrad BS degree In Ch E, I understand your point. The science is more difficult for a BS. However, McLean was not required to do science in his position, just give legal advice (which he did). The problem is that he did it for no apparent reason, unsolicited. Obviously with the presumption that the new leadership would make changes McLean would not like and with the implication that it would involve unethical acts. I would probably have canned his @ss like Noble did.

Reply to  Len Werner
November 2, 2020 12:33 am

Thanks for this data on Dr Nobel’s background.

Anyway, I don’t see anything here but the confirmation that Dr Noble is more trained as a scientist particularly in the field of data and atmospheric science than McLean, a lawyer with a BA in zoology.

My personnal take on this is that, as a French engineer (Ecole Centrale de Paris), I can hardly believe that one with such a poor scientific background as McLean got hired as a chief scientist of any French administration without a political agenda in mind.

Sceptical lefty
Reply to  Petit_Barde
November 2, 2020 6:55 am

Anyone appointed to a politically sensitive position will have his/her political suitability considered as the prime criterion. A few relevant professional qualifications may be desirable, even necessary, but the powers-that-be want someone ‘reliable’.

I have no doubt that Mr McLean seemed adequately qualified at the time.

Len Werner
Reply to  Sceptical lefty
November 2, 2020 9:35 am

Remember that the same could then be said of Dr. Noble.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Petit_Barde
November 2, 2020 11:45 am

According to his bio, McLean began as an activist and served as an ocean-going pollution cop. He later became an activist lawyer in the Deep State.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
November 1, 2020 8:10 pm

How does a lawyer with no atmospheric science background become chief scientist of NOAA?

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Gyan1
November 1, 2020 8:28 pm

Good at counting fish I suppose. NOAA’s less well-known job.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
November 1, 2020 9:18 pm

RMS Titanic – Royal Mail Ship.

November 1, 2020 6:46 pm

McLean was forced to step down from his role after emailing new Trump appointees about the agency’s ethics policy, according to a NYT report

intriguing and substantial hockey stick shaped data manipulations over the years, a practice which apparently continued on Craig McLean’s watch

Follow my religion… So, McLean is a bigot, probably Pro-Choice, selective, opportunistic, politically congruent. Here’s to mitigating progress.

November 1, 2020 6:46 pm

A 0.75 degree adjustment upward of the temperature record above the raw data is more than a fudge or even adjustment. It is a hockey stick sized fabrication intended to keep the whole wonky show on the road..

November 1, 2020 6:53 pm

McLean subscribes to diversity dogma (i.e. color judgment and exclusion), and as a diversitist, he colored people following his ideological bent, notably in the manner of a Rainbow spectrum, exclusive of black, brown, and taking gay pride in the shredded remains of white. This is a progressive condition in the workplace, in our society, which cannot be tolerated, let alone normalized.

November 1, 2020 7:16 pm

Not about the e-mail. In September, McLean complained that he didn’t like a press release:

“The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s acting chief scientist said in an email to colleagues Sunday that he is investigating whether the agency’s response to President Trump’s Hurricane Dorian tweets constituted a violation of NOAA policies and ethics. Also on Monday, the director of the National Weather Service broke with NOAA leadership over its handling of Trump’s Dorian tweets and statements.”

“As a result, McLean told his staff that “I am pursuing the potential violations of our NOAA Administrative Order on Scientific Integrity.””

So, a non-scientist, appointed bureaucrat criticised the agency’s actions by other officials above his pay grade, kicked off an even greater public controversy, and is replaced in position (not a job loss, but a loss of status that could have caused his resignation) by someone which a degree, with whom McLean (and the author’s editor) doesn’t agree with on policy. Just another day in the swamp.

A political bureaucrat isn’t entitled to both his public facing position and a vociferous contrary ( to the prevailing wind ) opinion. Sorry. Maybe if he was a real scientist…

November 1, 2020 7:22 pm

“…according to a NYT report…”

There’s the problem.

November 1, 2020 7:32 pm

In recent correspondence with Environment Canada regarding their criteria for Heat vs Cold alerts, the responder indicated in the exchange that “Globally, heat causes more deaths than cold.”. Since this contradicted what I had been told by other sources, I went looking for a source and found it in a paper that described the differences between NOAA indicating heat caused more deaths and the CDC indicating that cold caused more deaths. The two being at exact odds with each other. The paper pointed to the different databases used and criteria used in each. The NOAA seemed to use a source that included newspaper stories in its data collection. I also saw the Lancets publication of a study of 13 countries and over 74 million deaths which also came to the “cold causes more deaths”..That was my first indication that the NOAA is probably pushing an agenda.

November 1, 2020 8:24 pm

Nowhere was it stated that employees couldn’t REMOVE politically based mal-adjustments by previous AGW zealots.

Dudley Horscroft
November 1, 2020 8:25 pm

What puzzles me is that according to the CV quoted by Joel O’Bryan, McLean had experience as a deck officer /cum diving officer, but apparently gained no marine qualifications enabling him to serve as Master of a ship. Perhaps the NOAA is exempt from the normal requirements of the International Convention on Standards of Training, Certification and Watchkeeping for Seafarers (STCW)?

Steven Mosher
November 1, 2020 8:25 pm

“points out that, by their own now AWOL published numbers (see top of page), NOAA’s temperature records have been subject to some intriguing and substantial hockey stick shaped data manipulations over the years, a practice which apparently continued on Craig McLean’s watch.”

1. That is from one of the ancient versions of USHCN.
2. the methods used to make those adjustments are no longer used, replaced ages ago
3. USHCN is not used in global climate records ( since 2014 )
4. USHCN is not an official record anymore.

Jesus you guys are bad skeptics

Reply to  Steven Mosher
November 1, 2020 8:57 pm

Stephen Mosher still doesn’t know when to stop lying, I destroyed Nick Stokes lie over this very thing 3 years ago, you were there, you saw it. Stokes suddenly stopped replying when I showed the FTP link showing it was still being used and updated every day.

There is evidence that it is still being used to this very day, straight from the NOAA website:

“U.S. Historical Climatology Network (USHCN)

The U.S. Historical Climatology Network (USHCN) data are used to quantify national- and regional-scale temperature changes in the contiguous United States (CONUS). The USHCN is a designated subset of the NOAA Cooperative Observer Program (COOP) Network with sites selected according to their spatial coverage, record length, data completeness, and historical stability. ”


Data Access

“U.S. HCN version 2.5 monthly data are available via ftp. Users are requested to cite the version number and timestamp of the dataset when USHCN v2.5 data are used for analysis (as well as Menne et al. 2009). Please see the “readme.txt” file in the v2.5 directory for information on downloading and reading the v2.5 data. Information about the processing of the USHCN v2.5 data is provided in the status.txt file. U.S. HCN Version 2 monthly data will continue to be updated through 2012 and will be available in static form thereafter; however, users are encouraged to make the transition to Version 2.5 as soon as possible.”


FTP Link, that shows it is being updated EVERY SINGLE DAY!

Reply to  Sunsettommy
November 1, 2020 10:31 pm

They added some more bits of data and renamed it ClimDiv.

But as you say, USHCN still exist, even if mosh is ignorant of the fact.

And the data manipulations STILL CONTINUE.

At least they don’t use “regional expectations” like the WORST data does.

Reply to  Steven Mosher
November 1, 2020 10:28 pm

Question as always with mosh is……


or just grossly ignorant !

Or both.

His reputation is now such that his comments are meaningless and irrelevant.

John Endicott
Reply to  fred250
November 2, 2020 5:56 am

The more he lies, the more it has to be the former (or both). I find it hard to believe anyone can be “just grossly ignorant” on the scale of the drive-by English Major.

Reply to  Steven Mosher
November 2, 2020 3:41 am

There is no such thing as 120 years of 50 million recordings from 1200 stations “becoming unofficial” or “ancient.” Instead, the USHCN RAW is the gold standard for answering the question “has there been any abnormal warming.” And … there has not:

Meanwhile, the “FINAL” of the USHCN is not direct measurement; it is a model, consisting of a temperature reconstruction from temperature measurements!!

Unless you can tell me that NOAA rewound the clock, went back to 1880 and established 2400 global weather stations with more “quality control” than USHCN and GHCN RAW, your dismissal of the true yardstick equates to the murder of history.

The mutilation of USHCN began in the HansenMann year of 1989, and includes the repression of 400 stations that had been reporting for 100 years. They have not stopped recording the temperature; they have simply been “officially” disappeared.

I hope the new Trump people can force NOAA to gather the blacklisted data from those 400 stations and restore them to USHCN.

Jeff Alberts
November 1, 2020 8:28 pm

Saying “the NOAA” just doesn’t sound right.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
November 2, 2020 2:09 pm

It’s like saying “the NASA”.

John Endicott
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
November 3, 2020 3:16 am

Sure, if you just stop at those two words. In context that it’s being used, it perfectly legit grammar. As a grammar Nazi, you should know better. shame, shame.

November 1, 2020 8:39 pm

Please note that NOAA’s USHCN data manipulation graph shown at the top of this article is only through 2000, and they have since added huge amounts of warming to the raw data over the past 20 years, which NOAA no longer wishes to report..

This NOAA USCHN data manipulation graph was deleted from NOAA’s website soon after Trump was sworn into office in January 2017…

I wonder why?

Paul Rossiter
Reply to  SAMURAI
November 1, 2020 9:25 pm

Updated to 2020 on Tony Heller’s site:

Paul Rossiter
Reply to  SAMURAI
November 1, 2020 9:27 pm

And again with more detailed explanation of how the “corrections” scale directly with CO2:

Funny that!

November 1, 2020 9:01 pm

Climate models predict the something that cannot happen. They show equatorial ocean waters increasing well beyond 305K – a physical impossibility in Eath’s atmosphere.

You would think that they would check why their models are showing tropical ocean warming but moored buoys show no change this century or last century since they were installed:!Aq1iAj8Yo7jNg3LJuByjstkozrzc
This is a key indicator of where climate models and reality part.

Steve CASE
November 1, 2020 9:32 pm

Thanks for the link to the United States Historical Climatology Network (USHCN) and that wonderful (Final minus Raw) chart. I hadn’t seen it in a while.

November 1, 2020 9:32 pm

What a coincidence.

For years I’ve praised the work of NOAA’s “Tides and Currents” team, saying things like this:

I’ve closely examined NOAA’s sea-level trend analyses for many individual tide gauges, by their “tides and currents” (CO-OPS) group, and I’ve seen no evidence of anything other than good work by competent oceanographers. E.g., here’s their graph and linear regression for Honolulu:

Here’s the corresponding page on my site:
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But ten days ago I discovered that I can no longer honestly say that about them. Sometime between July & September, 2018 the NOAA CO-OPS Tides and Currents team quietly added a new, brazenly unscientific feature to their sea-level analysis pages, which they call “Regional Scenarios.” It is based on an internal junk-science study of the hypothetical effects of preposterous projections of wildly accelerated sea-level rise. Take a look (I added the green and pink annotations):

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That’s as bad as the blatant climate alarmist propaganda on NOAA’s ridiculous “Is sea level rising?” page. That page begins with a flat-out lie (“sea level is rising at an increasing rate”), and goes downhill from there, with multiple false statements.

I don’t know how NOAA is organized, but their “” site used to be much better than that. I presume that the “tidesandcurrents” and “oceanservice” sites were run by different people. Even when the “” site was publishing brazen propaganda, you still could trust the data and analyses from the “” site. I cannot express how disappointed I am that that’s no longer true. ☹️

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Dave Burton
November 2, 2020 6:37 am

Dave, it would be interesting to have a study relating the alarmist hype to political events over time, like elections, international meetings of UN Lysenko science meetings, etc. I think it would show remarkable coordination of institutions, scientific journals, and the usual sciency suspects in the meme. I think it was Roy Spencer a few years ago, pointed out publications of ‘impactful’ papers that were submitted one week and published the next week to be out there for inclusion in IPCC reports, COP meetings and so on. If I recall correctly he was comparing this to the prolonged gauntlet he has to go through to get a new version of UAH temperature series published.

Also this rainbow foolishness on NOAA’s site should be brought to the new boss’s attention. It clearly is the work ordered by McClean. His rude letter is a ‘tell’ that he knows the agencies data and hype will stick out like a sore thumb.

Killer Marmot
November 1, 2020 9:40 pm

On the one hand, McClean was simply stating the obvious.

On the other hand, it sounds like he treated the new appointee with contempt, perhaps based on a strong dislike for Trump. Who lectures their new boss on ethical behavior before they’ve even unpacked? That’s not respectful.

Robert of Texas
November 1, 2020 9:54 pm

Fire all the politicians pretending to be scientists and replace them with young scientists that have no skin in the game…then see where the RAW data leads.

Make sure a policy is created and enforced that prevents these young scientists from any public participation in activist movements or speaking outside of established channels – doing so results in your being fired as you are declaring your bias. Focus on the science, not the emotional appeal of the Greenies. Go through regular review/publication processes.

You want to become an activist, leave NOAA first.

Reply to  Robert of Texas
November 2, 2020 5:18 am

The problem is too many of the young scientists are being indoctrinated in the gospel of Gaia and no longer are taught to follow the data. Thumbs on the scale in support of dogma is rampant in academia.

Sceptical lefty
Reply to  OweninGA
November 2, 2020 2:24 pm


Nonetheless, I feel a certain sympathy for young scientists who discover that the only way to further their careers is to toe the Party line. The politicisation of science is a long-term calculated policy of Those Who Rule to ensure that scientists deliver palatable results.

A determination to follow where the evidence leads and draw only warranted conclusions (you know! — what science is supposed to be) is a shortcut to either penury or a radical career/attitude change. As Napoleon observed: “The surest way to remain poor is to be an honest man.”

John F Hultquist
November 1, 2020 10:00 pm

My comment on Paul Homewood’s iste:
McLean was involved with the dust-up about DJT’s tweets in September of 2019 regarding the path of Hurricane Dorian. As I recall, someone in Trump’s circle was way behind the weather info, made an error that ‘the Donald’ made famous.
The result was an Agency and media storm that should have been no more than a little “dust devil” blowing through a backyard picnic.
McLean was likely correct regarding this episode, but handled it poorly.
So, his leadership style is not likely the best, regardless of his experience.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  John F Hultquist
November 2, 2020 2:16 pm

“As I recall, someone in Trump’s circle was way behind the weather info, made an error that ‘the Donald’ made famous.
The result was an Agency and media storm that should have been no more than a little “dust devil” blowing through a backyard picnic.”

My recollection is Trump was accurate in his depiction of the hurricane’s possilbe path.

Loren C Wilson
Reply to  John F Hultquist
November 2, 2020 6:46 pm

I remember seeing one of the several Hurricane Dorian paths projected just as the president had said. Then the media made fun of him, but there was a prediction broadcasted that showed the hurricane following the path in question. the media still won’t admit that the president was correct. They won’t admit that Biden lied about fracking either, but I am not as shocked as the police chief in Casa Blanca.

November 1, 2020 10:02 pm

Regarding the adjustment to USHCN data: Judith Curry seems to consider this as mostly justified. One reason is a change to weather station technology that gives lower daily high temperature readings.

Ben Vorlich
Reply to  Donald L. Klipstein
November 1, 2020 11:14 pm

Even if there is a difference between values on different equipment, which in itself throws doubt on the temperature records, without a minimum of running the two in parallel you’re just guessing.

Kevin kilty
Reply to  Donald L. Klipstein
November 2, 2020 6:16 am

Change of equipment plus time of observation bias are almost the entire correction. You can see the progression in the NOAA supplied graph found in a number of places probably, but I have one here on the first page.

Also, note the order of corrections shown immediately below the graph, and contemplate that by homogenizing before making a UHI correction they may have simply spread UHI though all stations making it no longer correctable.

Jim Gorman
Reply to  Donald L. Klipstein
November 2, 2020 6:54 am

My problem is that all these adjustments are done for one reason and one reason only, to try and find data that supports a rising Global Average Temperature increase. Then the homogenized and adjusted temperatures are pawned off as true temperatures.

A bone of contention is UHI removal. This is real heat, albeit not “CO2 direct back radiation” caused. Removing this gradient from the temperature record is not scientific. Worse portraying the modified temperature data as “real” is also unethical. At the very least NOAA should qualify the data as modified and that it may not be fit for purpose in other scientific endeavors.

Reply to  Jim Gorman
November 2, 2020 8:02 am

Jim and Kevin …

I share Jim’s objection to the “FINAL” being called “real.” It is a model, not a temperature record. The justification is the supposed quest to model the measured data into a constructed number that stands for “the average temperature.” I contend the correct question is not “what is the average US (or global) temperature at a given moment, but rather: “Is there any abnormal warming evident in the RAW data.”

Tom Abbott
Reply to  windlord-sun
November 3, 2020 5:39 am

“I share Jim’s objection to the “FINAL” being called “real.””

And I object to calling actual temperature readings “raw” as if they are not finished, and need computer manipulation to add accuracy.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 3, 2020 6:09 am

Yes, the “raw” label for the unaltered direct measurement tables does have that halo of “needs work.” It would be better if the ‘raw’ zips were labeled “reported’ or ‘base’ or ‘direct’ and the “FINAL” tables were called “Adjusted” or “Reconstructed.”

I do use “Raw” at my website, only because that agrees with the name of the zip files in NOAA’s repository, as seen here:

It is a miracle that the “raw” zips are available at all. I wonder why they are — did a more conservative authority in NOAA fight a battle for it, or perhaps there remains an element of fairness?

November 1, 2020 10:06 pm

I understand this email as meaning: “Don’t you Trump appointees dare try to correct any of the data we have retroactively faked over the years.”

November 1, 2020 11:26 pm

The graph is well known for those who follow Tony Heller.

Reply to  Lasse
November 2, 2020 12:09 am

Tony ‘make it up’ Heller who even Anthony Watts has asked to desist from misrepresentation in the past?

Reply to  griff
November 2, 2020 2:00 am

You misrepresented everything, always.

Never stopped you.

In what way has Tony Heller misrepresented the information in the graph?

You are just yapping behind your 6ft fence again, griff.

November 2, 2020 12:08 am

‘he asked new Trump-appointed staff to adhere to the agency’s integrity policy that bans changing research data to fit political agenda’

so what you are saying is that Trump appointees feel it is OK to change research data to fit a political agenda. Aren’t you?

Reply to  griff
November 2, 2020 1:21 am

Griff, first try reading the comments before making yours. You might avoid making yourself look stupid (but probably not). Secondly, what would the impact be if you sent your new boss an email saying it was against company policy to submit an inflated expense report? I suspect the implication of dishonesty would not be well received by him.

And, Griff, please be advised that comments from people in the pay of foreign governments trying to disrupt western civilization are not welcome.

Reply to  griff
November 2, 2020 2:04 am

“change research data”

You mean to REMOVE all the manic politically based mal-adjustments by AGW zealots, don’t you griff.

They can’t change the research data much more than it has already been changed. !

Best to go back to the RAW data.. if it hasn’t all been erased.

Oh wait there.. that’s what Tony Heller does, much to the EMBARRASSMENT of the AGW fakers.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  fred250
November 2, 2020 2:22 pm

Griff ought to go over to Tony Heller’s website and try to straighten him out about the temperature record. Griff seems to think he knows better than Tony.

November 2, 2020 5:49 am

Hasn’t the NOAA been throwing logs on the Global-Whatever movement for years? They have an “integrity policy”? Most Government agencies are well stocked with Trump-haters who have a flexible integrity to say the least. In any case, this is a very incomplete report that omits some important info.

November 2, 2020 6:02 am

What I find most intriguing about the top graph is that it implies people in the past were much better at taking readings than people today.

Gerald Machnee
November 2, 2020 6:03 am

The way I read that regulation is that you cannot change data for POLITICAL reasons, but you can “adjust” it for “scientific” reasons, you just have to be careful to say it was “science”. So unless Trump wins the manipulation and fabrication will continue to match the CO2 increase as a 97% correlation displayed in Heller’s website shows.

EdA the New Yorker
November 2, 2020 6:13 am

Chutzpah is a treasured trait in the NYC metropolitan area. McLean learned it growing up in Rutherford, annealed it at Rutgers, and cultivated it in government service. It’s no wonder that the nyt would recognize his gross insubordination as laudable.

November 2, 2020 8:27 am

NOAA’s numbers and reports have been questionable for years and on a number of occasions they have not been able to provide data that supports they assessments. They need new blood in the systems to break the propaganda values and verify the data in their reports..

Mike Maguire
November 2, 2020 8:56 am

“He was replaced by Dr Ryan Maue, a climate change critic”

I read this all the time!
“climate change critic” is the WRONG way to describe people like Ryan or myself.

It plays right into the fake “denier” narrative.

We are absolutely NOT critics or deniers of climate CHANGE.
We believe in climate change.
Most of us may not even be critics of human caused climate change. I believe that humans are responsible for, maybe half of the beneficial global warming and that we are having a climate OPTIMUM for most life on this greening planet because of climate CHANGE.

I’ll let this tweet from Dr. Maue in September, speak for itself to illustrate the point:

Ryan Maue

Sep 12
“As the climate warms, the oceans further north especially in the North Atlantic will be more hospitable or friendly to hurricanes. And, as we know, hurricanes at higher latitudes (> 30°N) move quickly b/c steering currents (+jet influences) are much stronger than the trades.”

This was with regards to the topic below:
“An increase in global trends of tropical cyclone translation speed since 1982 and its physical causes”

His objective was/is to EDUCATE people about the REAL affects of climate change on hurricanes based on the REAL world.
He clearly sees the REAL global warming, which by definition is climate change.

Any position that would be filled by Dr. Maue would result in benefits to those affected by his role, as he brings objective, reality based science to the plate every time with elite level understanding and explanations.

What’s a better description than climate change critic?
Dr. Maue probably has his personal preference but I like these:
“climate crisis skeptic”, “climate crisis critic” and “climate realist”

Here’s a good one: “Authentic scientist” (-:

Mike Maguire
Reply to  Mike Maguire
November 2, 2020 9:12 am

Dr Maue’s point was to counter the stalled and slower moving hurricanes from climate change, causing more excessive rains narrative……………by applying authentic/objective, reality based science/data and usually supported by common sense, physical world reasoning.

Ed Bo
November 2, 2020 9:11 am

I smell a “post hoc ergo propter hoc” fallacy here. (If B followed A, B must have been caused by A.)

An “acting” position is by definition temporary. Of course a new agency head is going to bring in his own people in key position under him. In this case, he replaced a BA-level environmental scientist with a PhD climate scientist.

This whole dustup looks like a purely political play to make an absolutely standard and justifiable personnel decision look questionable.

November 2, 2020 10:34 am

I’ve learned a lot over the last 4 years about moles in the agencies. I guess I knew they were there but was never sure how they would present themselves over time. Certainly I’ve learned a lot about the under (handed) side of the FBI over the years and that leads to thinking about the other agencies.

November 2, 2020 10:46 am

The NOAA scientific integrity policy prohibits fabrication, falsification, or the manipulation of research data to fit a political agenda

NOAA have been homogenizing and interpolating data for ages. What is that except fabrication, alteration, and manipulation of data? When a lefty does it they call it alteration, when someone they don’t like does it it’s falsification.

November 2, 2020 1:39 pm

Being unaware that CO2 is not a pollutant and is required for all life on earth is science ignorance.
Failure to discover that CO2 has no significant effect on climate but water vapor does is science incompetence. (WV has been increasing faster than possible from feedback)
Changing measured data to corroborate an agenda is science malpractice.

Tom Abbott
November 2, 2020 2:36 pm

Here is the USHCN Raw verses Final TMAX 1918 to 2019, which shows how the raw (actual temperature readings) have been computer-manipulated into the “adjusted” temperauture anamoly.

Obviously, the actual temperature readings show that it was just as warm in the 1930’s as it is today, but the Data Manipulators took the actual temperature readings and put them in their computer and cooled the 1930’s, and out came a “hotter and hotter” temperature chart that fits the Human-caused Climate Change narrative where we are living in the hottest time in human history The actual temperature readings tell a completely different story. That story says it is no warmer today than in the recent past and therefore, CO2 is not the control knob of the Earth’s atmosphere.

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Here’s a link to an article on Heller’s site about data manipulation:

November 3, 2020 11:24 am

Here is how the NOAA ethics game works. The workaday run of the mill ‘scientists’ at NOAA are largely left leaning. They bake their bias into the results. The Ethics Rules give them a shield to prevent the political appointees from calling them out on their bogus work on its way to publication. The good lawyer/scientist was just reminding the new boss that the inmates run this particular asylum.

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