Friday Funny: Will the World Drown as Greenland Ice Melts? (w/ Dr. Michael Mann)

From the “Manntastic claims require Manntastic evidence” department.

From the description:

The human eye could see the rise in sea level as the ice sheets in Greenland melt. Measurements also show a change in gravity as the ice melts. A new study has climate models showing the variation in ice sheet melts and how sea levels will rise so much, that low land across the globe is at risk.

Dr. Michael Mann joined Thom [Hartmann] to discuss how serious the rate of melt in Greenland and the evidence that the planet is in danger.

You’ll need a barf bag to watch.

h/t to CTM, who is recovering from surgery. We wish him the best.

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Derg
October 2, 2020 12:27 pm

Attention –

I am looking to buy your beachfront property now. As you can see from this article your beachfront will be worthless soon. I am willing to buy it at the ridiculously high price of a $1 foot. Act now, operators are standing by.

MikeTheDenier
October 2, 2020 12:28 pm

I can see sea levels rise and fall twice a day. It’s called tide.

ResourceGuy
Reply to  MikeTheDenier
October 2, 2020 12:48 pm

+10

fretslider
October 2, 2020 12:31 pm

Models…

We don’t have measurements…

Models tell us it’s all manmade..

Well. Mann’s convinced.

October 2, 2020 12:37 pm

As always, Mann is factually challenged and easily proven wrong. He dissembles stupidly.

IF over one summer two years ago—as he clearly asserted—enough Greenland ice melted to raise sea level 1 cm, then that 1 cm rise would have been recorded by that summer’s measurements from tide gauges and easily verified at http://www.PSMSL.org. But it wasn’t. So it didn’t.

Derg
Reply to  Rud Istvan
October 2, 2020 2:53 pm

Don’t let your facts get in the way of their truth.

Wolf at the door
October 2, 2020 12:38 pm

Mann is well past being funny.Past being a”disgrace to the profession”-and past being noticed ,even by his quasi-religious “Extinction Revolting “It may take a while yet,but his fall is coming and he will not be alone.

Reply to  Wolf at the door
October 2, 2020 8:26 pm

Tommy Wils

October 2, 2020 12:40 pm

The National Academy of Sciences must be so proud of this one of its newest members.

HD Hoese
October 2, 2020 12:47 pm

It’s going to be really dangerous when these critters start flooding the lowlands! Wait until these guys actually have some ocean experience. Long list of horrors. Caution, not for young children, known fatalities.
Sulawesi, Indonesia (Jan 2020 – very graphic pictures of a very large needlefish in his neck)
https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/animals/teens-horror-injury-after-being-speared-through-the-neck-by-needlefish/news-story/e23ef759b92be54ae1b90fcf31e5330d

Jerker Andersson
October 2, 2020 12:50 pm

Mr Mann is certain that the models have calcualted natural variations correctly in the last decades and that they offset som of the warming that should have happened. Enquiring minds want to know if it is the very same model that can’t reproduce the natural warming occuring 1910-1940.

whiten
October 2, 2020 12:55 pm

“The human eye could see the rise in sea level…”

As far as this could go, in what human eye could see;

Only mentioning one single occasion, many humans, multiple human eyes could clearly see, as strongly claimed, the face of the virgin Mary on the glass facade of a big building, in the middle of the day.

What about it!

And there is many more and even more bizarre situations concerning what the human eye could or not see!

By the way, if “climate change” sounds silly or stupid,
“change of gravity” is even more stupid than beyond what human eye could see as stupid.

cheers

JTS
Reply to  whiten
October 3, 2020 7:57 am

Yeah, I was wondering where on earth the oceans are still enough that you could see a half centimetre rise, or any rise for that matter. What a buffoon.

fred250
October 2, 2020 12:56 pm

is Mickey Mann just griff’s altered ego ?

They both live a life of lies through ignorance.

Griff is probably the least non-intelligent of the pair.

LdB
Reply to  fred250
October 2, 2020 9:03 pm

No because Griff doesn’t claim he won a nobel prize, we have awarded him idiot of the week a few times.

Harry Passfield
October 2, 2020 12:57 pm

D’you know, if my young Grandson’s school decided to show this film to the children in their charge I would threaten them with charges of child abuse. I am incandescent that, because of the direction of education in my country (UK – where they teach children to say ‘Haitch’, FFS) my Grandson could be exposed to the sight of an AH lookalike in a dirty T-shirt, looking like he’s a few bricks short of a load having just surfaced from a reeking public convenience, and ranting at the camera to scare the crap out of them: ‘You’ll be able to see sea-level rise’!!! The Mann in certifiable and should be stopped – with a well-aimed hockey stick if poss.

Scott Brock
October 2, 2020 1:03 pm

I am not a smartypants, but can someone explain math and volume calculations? If the oceans surface area is 5.1 billion Km2 and the volume of Greenland ice is 2.6 million Km3 a little division and converting to meters I get 0.5 meters of total depth added to the ocean. Am I stupid?

Earthling2
Reply to  Scott Brock
October 2, 2020 2:03 pm

Maybe a hair daft…and lazy. Where did you get 5.1 billion Km2 for the ocean surface?

“The area of the World Ocean is about 361.9 million square kilometers (139.7 million square miles), which covers about 70.9% of Earth’s surface, and its volume is approximately 1.335 billion cubic kilometers (320.3 million cubic miles).”

Reply to  Scott Brock
October 2, 2020 3:28 pm

Your constants are off. I did the math (and gave confirming references) in essay Tipping Points in ebook Blowing Smoke. First of three examples (the other two are WAIS and EAIS). IF ever Greenland melted completely it would raise Sea level by about 6.7 meters. It never has. Mann’s claim of 6-8 feet by 2100 is patently absurd.

Rick C PE
October 2, 2020 1:04 pm

I got distracted by Hartmann’s blinking – might have been Morse Code for “TORTURE” – but my Morse is pretty rusty and I could stand to watch it a second time.

BruceC
Reply to  Rick C PE
October 5, 2020 12:19 am

That’s all right, Mr Ryan. My Morse is so rusty, I could be sending him dimensions on Playmate of the Month.

Capt. Bart Mancuso: Hunt for Red October

Bro. Steve
October 2, 2020 1:15 pm

Never! Not! Be! Afraid!

— Grug Crood

Prjindigo
October 2, 2020 1:49 pm

Worse is – as I always point out – that the ice is displacing its own mass in magma… so the tectonic and volcanic repercussions of the Greenland melt could be more catastrophic than a simple small sea level rise.

As the ice melts and drains out, the rock below will start rising up causing magma under the surrounding ocean to flow in the direction of Greenland to fill the suction beneath it.

Michael Jankowski
October 2, 2020 1:52 pm

Nice touch with the product placement of his book in the background. Grifters gonna grift.

Al Miller
October 2, 2020 2:06 pm

I live 100′ above the ocean and have been counting on SLR to increase my property values so I can retire early. But this is the height of buffoonery. My hopes have been dashed. (sarc. in case you weren’t sure)

October 2, 2020 2:28 pm

“The climate dogma lives strongly within you Mike Mann.”
– said by Me

While that might be compliment to the climate priesthood where catastrophic man-made climate change is now a faith-based religion, it is a slamming rebuke to someone who is supposed to be a scientist. When scientists turn to public advocacy, as the AAAS and NAS now pushes for, it means we end up with politicized science and scientists. Those scientists then are unable to self-correct when faced with glaring inconsistencies in observation versus claims. So the push ever onward spewing ever bigger whoppers like this one from Monsignor Mann.

JN
October 2, 2020 2:31 pm

It escapes my understanding how a so-called “scientist” can say so many incorrect things (not confirmed by the data) for so long and yet there are those who want to hear it.

Carguy Pete
October 2, 2020 2:33 pm

From Wipikedia

Thomas Carl Hartmann is an American radio personality, author, former psychotherapist, businessman, and progressive political commentator.

That’s all you need to know.
progressives are liars!

October 2, 2020 4:03 pm

An unprecedented use of the word “unprecedented” starting at 3:50

October 2, 2020 4:05 pm

Stopped listening at “half a centimeter of sea level rise from Greenland ice melt in one month”. It would be disastrous if it were true, but it isn’t. Do the math (which Mann apparently can’t).

Say 3 months a year of that kind of ice melt, so 15mm or more of sea level rise per year. That’s 5 TIMES the rate of sea level rise measured by satellite (3.1 mm/yr). Even if it was only 1 month per year, that’s almost double the annual rate of sea level rise. Back to reality. Several studies estimate annual sea level rise from BOTH Greenland and Antarctica at 0.5 to 0.9 mm PER YEAR, which is…wait for it…one fifth to one tenth the amount that Mann claims from Greenland alone for one month.

I guess when you get tenure, your brain stops working.

October 2, 2020 4:10 pm

All our Best wishes to Charles the Moderate, coming out of surgery. Please get well again soon.

Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
October 2, 2020 5:18 pm

If you’d met him, you wouldn’t call him Moderate but yes, totally agree. Get well soon mate.

October 2, 2020 5:10 pm

Thank you for this wonderful op-ed article that fails to identify the precise cause of the “human caused ” climate change. Now that we know what, can you tell us why. Exactly why is the Greenland Ice-sheet melting?
!2,000 years ago the Bering Sea was frozen over. It also melted. Did the American Indians, who crossed from Asia, cause that?
Now I know why Trump offered to buy Greenland from the Danes. I’m voting for Trump.

October 2, 2020 5:23 pm

The Treemometer guy should “stay in his lane.”