Guest essay by Eric Worrall
According to Anthony Fauci, the USA has not beaten Covid-19 because the USA didn’t lock down hard enough.
Anthony Fauci Explains Why the US Still Hasn’t Beaten Covid
The director of NIAID talks about vaccines, school reopenings, hostility toward science, and the lessons we’ll learn when (yes, when) we recover.
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If baseball can’t go on, what about schools?
It’s a much more complicated situation with the schools, and I can’t give you a yes or no answer. As a broad principle, we should try as best as we possibly can to get the kids to return to school, because of the negative unintended consequences of keeping the kids out of school, like the psychological health of the children, the nutrition of kids who get breakfast or lunch at school, to working parents who may not be able to adjust their schedules. So the default position is to try.
However, while you do that, the one thing that you have to underscore—and that’s a big however—is that paramount among this has to be the safety and welfare of the children, of their teachers, and secondarily, of the families of the children. So there has to be some degree of flexibility.
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Why do you think the US has done so poorly in suppressing this pandemic compared with other rich countries?
It isn’t just one single factor. Let me give you one or two that I think are important. First of all, other countries, certainly Asian countries, and certainly the European Union, when they so-called locked down—shut down, shelter in place, whatever you want to call it—they did it to about 95 percent of their countries. So they did it in full force. Some countries got hit badly, but once they locked down and turned things around, they came down to a very low baseline—down to tens or hundreds of new cases a day, not thousands. They came down and they stayed down.
Now, in the United States, when we shut down, even though it was a stress and a strain for a lot of people, we only did it to the tune of about 50 percent of the country shutting down. Our curve goes up and starts to come down. But we never came down to a reasonable baseline. We came down to about 20,000 new infections per day, and we stayed at that level for several weeks in a row. Then we started to open up—getting America “back to normal”—and started to see the cases go from 20,000 a day to 30,000, 40,000. We even hit that one point last week of 70,000 new cases a day.
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Read more: https://www.wired.com/story/anthony-fauci-explains-why-the-us-still-hasnt-beaten-covid/
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. I’m personally a fan of lockdowns, but they are not a panacea.
When President Trump closed the border to China at the start of February, against the advice of the WHO, Joe Biden accused Trump of “Xenophobia”. Nations including the USA are still struggling to find the right balance between economically damaging lockdowns and letting the disease run its course.
Before anyone sneers at worrying about “economic damage” when lives are at risk, the kind of economic damage I’m talking about is the risk of disrupting the food supply chain. Running out of food would kill far more people than Covid-19.
And there is significant evidence lockdowns don’t have a lasting impact – as Europe reaches the limit of their economic lockdown endurance, early evidence is cases are surging. Even hard lockdown Australia is struggling with a surge of cases in the high population density Victoria.
There is no doubt in my mind the Chinese government could have stopped the outbreak in its tracks, if they had thought about other people rather than their own selfish short term interests. But we cannot undo what has been done.
I don’t know the right answer, the right balance between lockdowns and economic activity, and I doubt anyone else does either. What we need to do is continue doing what we are already doing – do our very best to chart a course through the difficulties we all face.
“If only we had locked down completely, then we would be 100% susceptible to the Wuhan virus in the fall when the election comes ’round and in the Swamp-caused panic we would be able to hide our election fraud against OrangeManBad!”
What if the CDC is over counting covid-19 deaths by 90 percent? RFK Jr’s site has some interesting food for thought.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/if-covid-fatalities-were-90-2-lower-how-would-you-feel-about-schools-reopening/
I read through this report and it was extremely thorough and very damning against those involved. If this is true and I have no reason to doubt the veracity of this report, then this entire COVID 19 scenario has been a manufactured crisis.
Big shocker there….it is, after all, an election year.
Having said that, we should now start with criminal proceedings against all agencies, politician, and medical personnel involved.
The virus is over. Was it worth the drama? Here is what we know.
1) 99% of those that have it, recover.
2) The death toll is inflated and we won’t really know how many died until they have time to separate those that died “with” COVID from those that died “from” COVID exclusively.
3) We don’t know how many people have had COVID because now we are counting “presumed” cases. One actual case becomes 17 through contact tracing.
4) If we take the number of cases according to the CDC, then 1.33% of the U.S. population have (had) COVID.
5 If we take the death toll according to the CDC, then 45/1,000ths of 1% of the U.S. population have died from COVID.
Here in Montana we have had over twice as many die in vehicle accidents than have died from COVID. We did not shut down the road system in Montana.
The “hair on fire reaction” to this has been the real disaster. As with all things….the government (federal, state, and local) have made a very manageable situation a thousand times worse. And I believe that many in the medical community are guilty of this too….including Dr. Fauci.
The virus is over? Tell this to the thousands in the U.S. getting infected every day.
Until the human population reaches a “herd immunity” level (and it may never with this virus) or a vaccine is successful in preventing it, it won’t be “over”. If herd immunity proves to be impossible (because immunity might not last long enough to be effective) then the best we can hope for is a “steady burn” until a successful vaccine is widely available.
Montana is a terrible example of how to control Covid-19 in densely populated areas. Montana IS essentially in lock down compared to densely populated areas just be being so sparsely populated. LOL (and yes, I am jealous)
Define infected. Do you mean tested positive? Do you mean tested positive with symptoms? Do you mean tested positive and asymptomatic? do you mean that you had it and recovered, Do you mean that you carry the antibodies? Do you mean presumed infected because somehow somewhere your co-worker from the 4th floor had tested positive and through contact tracing everyone in the building is presumed to have it because the air conditioning was working?
Perhaps there are more cases because more people are being tested. Not because the virus is spreading. But you go ahead and be afraid that 45/1,000ths of 1% have died. And that includes those with various co-morbidities.
Be afraid, be very afraid.
But don’t be jealous…the nearest Walmart is 75 miles away.
Because of his horrible advice?
plebes…you will now start wearing face shields alongside the masks.
Man so comments get feisty around COVID in America. I’ve gotten similar heat on my blog. Lockdowns dropped the curve here in Italy. As an American Expat in Italy I wish I could fly my entire family here until America gets its act together and places community in priority.
So, what is stopping you?
Why can’t you fly your family there? Sign ’em up, git ’em through quarentine and ship ’em over….
Is it the money … I wish I had a crapload of disposable income too.
To answer a question posed in the beginning, at the height of the mortalities in NYC, 65% of the Covid cases admitted into hospitals (far too many ending in deaths) were people who not only wore masks, gloves, did hygiene 39 times/day, etc., but who totally sequestered themselves indoors in their private homes. The percentage of people living in private homes in NYC is way less than 65%. Didn’t help a bit. This baby is INFECTIOUS.
To lock down hard enough, you have to close your phone lines:
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Faucci’s lockdown was a disaster.
Firts, it came about because of an unverified data model from a modeler with a history of inaccurate models. More scrutiny later found that model to bogus, just as many of us expected.
Next, Faucci, the FDA and various other bureaucracies and unaccountable bureaucrat swamp dwellers failed to examine the model and warn against taking action on unscientific claims. Many swamp-dweller heads should rool for this.
Nearly 30 million Americans are now out of work. I can’t quantify how many millions would otherwise be employed if we hadn’t closed schools and declared millions of job as unessential.
Adding to that, the radical anti-Trumper resistance used the lockdown to kill Trump’s reelection by destroying his biggest accomplishment – – an economy that benifitted the working class proportionally higher than any other economic class.
Where was Faucci when the rabid Democrat statist governors kept extending the lockdowns long after successfully flattening-the-curve? When did he caution polotical leaders to follow the science regarding the extending the lockdown?
As an aside, Faucci may remind people of a good-natured, pint-sized great uncle, the man is arrogant, dogmatic and not open to facts that would cause a thoughtful person the reevaluate the situation and adopt policy recommendations accordingly.
As to the main topic about why we don’t have Covid under control, let’s circle back to the extended lockdowns. People have lockdown fatigue. People saw the hypocrisy of the medical establishment during the Juneteenth celebrations, George Floyd’s 2 funerals and and the ongoing protests and riots where hundreds of thousands did not follow proper protocols. These were for good causes, they say, and therefore prudent prophylactic measures were unnecessary.
I have quite a bit more to says, but my job demands my undivided attention just now.
We have ‘cure’ for covid. 5000 UI/day per person will correct the US general population’s Vitamin D deficient.
The ‘science’ has been done. What I am saying is a proven fact. Not a theory or an opinion.
In reply to:
“According to Anthony Fauci, the USA has not beaten Covid-19 because the USA didn’t lock down hard enough.’
Fauci comment is not correct. Fauci for some reason is not aware of the US population’s Vitamin D deficiency. And Fauci it appears is complete ignorant of the Vitamin D ‘research’ results, all which are in peer reviewed papers.
If we correct the US population’s Vitamin D, deficiency our cells would have the specific modifications at a microbiological level that stops the coronal virus class of viruses from replicating.
The chemical activated Vitamin D actives genes in our bodies which in turn modifies our cells to protect against cancer, dementia, virus attacks and so on.
The chemical activated vitamin D turns on genes that add chemical modules that attach to our cells which have specific functions.
It is exactly like getting microbiological upgrade at a cellular level to defend the body. These Vitamin D activated module additions to our cells, is the way our body, evolved, to provide protection for most common diseases.
This is from measurement how Vitamin D deficient the US is. 42% of the US general population.
Curiously 36% of the Australian population is Vitamin D deficient which shows people are Vitamin D deficient in very developed country in the world even sunny Australia.
82% of the US black population, 68% of the US Hispanic population and 42% of the US general population have blood serum levels of the actived chemical which we call ‘Vitamin D’ less than 20 ng/ml.
Prevalence and correlates of vitamin D deficiency in US adults.
https://tahomaclinic.com/Private/Articles4/WellMan/Forrest%202011%20-%20Prevalence%20and%20correlates%20of%20vitamin%20D%20deficiency%20in%20US%20adults.pdf
And….. It has been shown that:
Those who have an active blood serum level Vitamin D less than….
< 10 ng/ml, Very Deficient, Many Muslim women who wear full body cover, obese people, diabetic people (The Vitamin D deficiency is connected with causing diabetes and obesity), dark black people, most residences of nursing homes, people who work long hours in sweatshops and do not see sunlight, and so on….
20ng/ml60 ng/ml, Optimum, 80% less ‘chance’ of dying from the common cancers, more than a 50 reduction in getting type 2 diabetes, almost elimination of type 1 diabetes, weight loss of 20 to 40 lb, significant increase in muscle mass, less depression, better balance, reduction in the occurrence of schizophrenia, clearer thinking, better focus, and so on.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3585561
Patterns of COVID-19 Mortality and Vitamin D: An Indonesian Study
I found this article today:
Opinion: Fauci Knew About HCQ In 2005 – Nobody Needed To Die
http://www.nw-connection.com/?p=6147
The Virology Journal – the official publication of Dr. Fauci’s National Institutes of Health – published what is now a blockbuster article on August 22, 2005, under the heading – get ready for this – “Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread.” (Emphasis mine throughout.) Write the researchers, “We report…that chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells. These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage.”
This means, of course, that Dr. Fauci has known for 15 years that chloroquine and its even milder derivative hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) will not only treat a current case of coronavirus (“therapeutic”) but prevent future cases (“prophylactic”). So HCQ functions as both a cure and a vaccine. In other words, it’s a wonder drug for coronavirus. Said Dr. Fauci’s NIH in 2005, “concentrations of 10 μM completely abolished SARS-CoV infection.” Fauci’s researchers add, “chloroquine can effectively reduce the establishment of infection and spread of SARS-CoV.”
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Very strange times we’re living in.
Strange does not describe Fauci’s actions or times we live in. Strange is weird lights in the sky.
Hiding medical ‘breakthroughs’ and not taking action on medical breakthroughs that could cut the US healthcare cost by 70% and cure covid, is not strange. It is evil. Evil is doing bad things.
Pretending to be on our side, pretending to consider all options, and spreading Mumbo Jumbo/Lying studies to stop us finding out the truth about the deficiency and the HCQ cocktail.
‘Correcting’ starts with the public announcement of the deficiency, its effects, and its cost in lives and health. The problem is over time, this very big lie has become too big, too correct. People will be charged with criminal negligence resulting in death.
There are two cures for Covid. The HCQ cocktail as soon as first symptoms appear for those who covid.
The second cure is to correct the US population’s Vitamin D deficiency.
Vitamin D deficient people (less than 20 ng/ml) are 19 times more like to die of covid than Vitamin D normal people. And Vitamin D insufficient people >20 ng/ml50% lower in Grassroots Health cohort with median serum 25–hydroxyvitamin D of 41 ng/ml than in NHANES cohort with median of 22 ng/ml
There are 29 million people in the US who are suffering from type 2 diabetes. Type 2 diabetes is the leading cause of non birth blindness in the US and is also the reason for the majority of the non accident amputations in the US.
This key study result that is six years old is the finding of how Vitamin D stops prostate, stomach, colon, breast cancers.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/10/141022164052.htm
Finally: Missing link between vitamin D, prostate cancer
A new study offers compelling evidence that inflammation may be the link between vitamin D and prostate cancer. Specifically, the study shows that the gene GDF-15, known to be upregulated by vitamin D, is notably absent in samples of human prostate cancer driven by inflammation.
The removed prostate gland were analyzed. The analysis of the removed glands showed that the patients who receive Vitamin D 4000 UI/day for six months, that their cancers had shrunk and detailed analysis of the removed prostate glands showed that the gene GDF-15 has responsible for the shrinkage of the prostate cancer tumors.
It is known that the gene GDF-15 is responsible for stopping inflammation in the body and that inflammation is how cancers grow and get new blood vessels to form.
The Medical industry did studies of supplements of Vitamin D of 2000 UI/day, that proved that supplements of 2000 UI/day are not sufficient to stop cancer.
Vitamin activation of the GDF-15 is likely the explanation as to why a Vitamin D actived level greater than 60ng/ml and calcium supplements has been shown to reduce the incidence of breast cancer by more than 80%. A small woman can reach 60 ng/ml taking 4000 UI/day.
This is the link to the woman’s breast cancer study.
https://www.grassrootshealth.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/McDonnell-2018-breast-cancer-GRH.pdf
The proportion with breast cancer was 78% lower for >60 ng/ml vs <20 ng/ml (P = 0.02). Third, multivariate Cox regression revealed that women with 25(OH)D concentrations 60 ng/ml had an 80% lower risk of breast cancer than women with concentrations <20 ng/ml (HR = 0.20, P = 0.03), adjusting for age, BMI, smoking status, calcium supplement intake, and study of origin.
When is it going to start costing him and his family money? That is when the Chinese Disease will be declared as beaten. What a f**kbag.
Has anyone seen Dr. Gupta, the CNN prop say anything good about HCQ yet?
If he did he would be gone from CNN.
On July 27, the Wall Street Journal reported many countries that seemed to have Covid-19 under control are now experiencing a surge in cases. Three Asian countries mentioned are Japan, Singapore and Australia.
On the next the WSJ published a similar article about Europe.
Earlier in July, new cases in Germany went from 300 a day to 800 on July 24.
Spain went from 200 new daily cases to 2,000.
The UK’s Boris Johnson proclaimed a second wave in continental Europe.
France and Austria also saw daily cases rising. Greece as well. Many European countries now reimplementing restrictions.
But if Dr Faucci says those countries did it right, who am I to challenge his opinions with facts?
Lock downs DO work, if by “work” one means slowing down the infection rate. Just do a simple thought experiment where in ideal city everyone actually stayed in place behind closed doors, raised their own food in their rooms, and never physically interacted with others. Obviously the virus has no place to jump to and dies out.
Of course real lock downs never even get close to this, but they do slow down the rate of new infections which is all you are trying to do. The “saving lives” isn’t because less people are infected (over enough time) but because you can supply sufficient health care to all critical care patients due to a flatter infection curve.
I can’t argue about the economic value versus the lives saved…that’s a tough one. There is some kind of balance needed to be reached, but each and everyone of us likely has a different “value” for this. Needless to say, if you are doing more harm by enforcing a stricter lock down then good, you have to back off.
If this virus were truly deadly (say over 10% death rate as opposed to under 1%), many people would suddenly see the need for a lock down. It will likely happen sometime in the future so use this as an opportunity to start learning lessons.
“but they do slow down the rate of new infections which is all you are trying to do.”
Yet nobody can tell when and where these happened looking at the infection rates graphics.
OTOH in France death rate increased significantly only after the lock down.
Yeah, OK, Robert, please tell me where I’m supposed to keep the fatted calf before I slaughter it? And won’t that scare the children in my neighborhood if they see me out in the yard, butchering the fatted calf?
And considering the volume of food it takes to properly feed one adult over a month, never mind a year to 18 months, just where is this human food supply supposed to be planted????
I hope you were being sarcastic, because your statement about “raising their own food in their rooms” has no basis in reality. It appears that you are, in fact, so out of touch with the reality of the size of a plot of land required to feed just one healthy adult, you may never regain “touch” with reality. For your information, just a garden veggie plot requires 5 acres for a family of five: 3 kids, 2 adults, outdoors, and plenty of water and a means of fertilizing the food grown. Now how do I know this? Because I grew up with a garden, there were five people in my family and we needed that much room to produce enough vegetables to feed all five of us through a 12 month period.
Please, before you post a silly remark – ‘grow food in their rooms – don’t post it. You are ridiculous.
Fauci must be removed immediately this a Quack doctor who has destroyed THE USA he has been wrong ABOUT EVERYTHING re viruses. Copy Mosher who has been wrong about everything re climate maybe WUWT may have to start censoring as Mainstream media is doing! My prediction this site will be shut down very soon prepare Mr Watts!!
I just ordered a few years supply of face shields from China, so shall live long enough to hear the next Faux-ism.\
Meanwhile I see current Netherlands public health stance is face masks worn by the general public are not demonstrably useful. The country only insists they be used when on public transportation.
So Sweden the only Country that did NOT LOCKDOWN is now free of the disease no mortality hospitals empty, and other countries with eternal lockdowns eternal recurrence of the disease. This was a normal virus that is supposed to infect humans and grant them immunity what you have done with the lockdowns is prolong the pain and disease Mockton was wrong and so was Jo anne nova stick to climate issues you know nothing about viruses.
Sweden is probably the worst example of a country that anyone attempting to extoll the virtues of ‘no lockdown’ could possibly use. Sweden has had a terrible record of deaths per million population compared to its near-neighbours Denmark and, especially, Norway.
Sweden still had good results compared to France and Belgium.
Knowing that lockdowns do not work to eradicate the virus, extending the lockdown means that herd immunity will not be reached, not the virus will still be prevalent.
This guarantees the virus will find it’s way into more nursing homes and actually cause death. Nursing homes need staff and carers. They will all catch it at some point, and introduce the virus into nursing homes. The only way to prevent deaths is to protect nursing homes as best as possible. And allow herd immunity to be reached as soon as possible.
Delaying hers immunity will cause more deaths.
https://aapsonline.org/more-evidence-presented-for-why-hydroxychloroquine-should-be-made-available-in-a-new-court-filing-by-aaps/
“This week the Association of American Physicians & Surgeons submitted additional evidence to a federal court for why interference with hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) should end by the Food & Drug Administration (FDA) and the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), in AAPS v. FDA, No. 1:20-cv-00493-RJJ-SJB (W.D. Mich.).
“As confirmed by another recent study of thousands of patients at the Henry Ford Health System in Michigan, HCQ is both very safe and highly effective in treating COVID-19, reducing mortality by 50%,” AAPS informed the court in its filing. “Countries with underdeveloped health care systems are using HCQ early and attaining far lower mortality than in the United States, where [HHS and the FDA] impede access to HCQ.”
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I found out today that my State, Oklahoma, is one of six States that do not restrict the prescribing of HCQ.
Sweden leading epidemiologist so satisfied the country no longer even recommending masks be worn on public transportation. It seems they are not worried about a 2nd wave of WuhanVirus, unlike most elsewhere who kept populace segments at home with no chance of exposure until later – the 2nd wave hosts.
This is a very good article on the Wuhan Virus:
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-thought-covid-respiratory-viruswe-wrong.html
We thought COVID-19 was just a respiratory virus—we were wrong
As you read this article think about the French doctor who found that HCQ could eliminate the Wuhan virus from the body in from six to nine days in the several dozen patients he was studying at the time.
If you have access to HCQ you can rid your body of the virus in six to nine days, if the French doctor is correct, thus missing the 11th day and the 19th day of virus infection (see the article for why).
Yes, the Wuhan virus is a nasty piece of work, and we don’t now know the level of infection that might induce long-term adverse health effects.
One study found adverse health effects after infection even in people who had very mild symptoms. This may even affect children. Most of them don’t get sick with the virus but is the virus doing damage to their bodies even so? How long does it take for the virus to start doing serious damage once it is in the body? Shouldn’t we concentrate on eliminating the virus from the body as soon as possible using HCQ?
Some people maybe shouldn’t be so eager for us to attain herd immunity. Getting there might put many people in serious danger now and in the future. The prudent thing right now would be to avoid this virus altogether until a vaccine is found. Acting reckless in public out of bravado or ignorance about the dangers of this virus is not advised.
That article is a good example of how mythology of viruses gets created by ignoring the damage medical treatments for the illness do.
Fauci is a true example of Sowell’s Anointed
The Anointed identify a problem
To fix the problem, the Anointed propose a Grand Plan
The Anointed dismiss all evidence that the theory behind the Grand Plan is wrong
The Anointed assume that no good, intelligent person could possibly oppose the Grand Plan
If possible, the Anointed will impose the Grand Plan on others (for their own good)
The Anointed will never, ever, admit that the Grand Plan was a bad idea
and also, if the plan isn’t working, then they didn’t go far enough
I’ve seen it way too many times
from a recent interview
KERMIT: Dr. Fauci, we are seldom shown deaths, and instead this ever increasing hockey stick of accumulated cases. It really seems a little, over dramatic. Is this the best way to illustrate our progress?
DR. FAUCI: I would not have chosen in the original TAR Summary to highlight this one curve – but we should not forget that the considerable uncertainty associated with it was shown . However it was always likely that this curve would be challenged from a scientific point of view – as is correct – as new data and different reconstruction methods are adopted . The conclusions regarding the reality of data masking have certainly not been overturned since then , however. In fact, many subsequent analyses seem to reinforce this. So do not let scientific development (and sceptic misinformation ) obscure this important message.
KERMIT: The latest uptick of daily deaths looks foreboding but we aren’t hearing a lot of new personal tragedies. Weren’t deaths declining? What is happening?
DR. FAUCI: I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of splicing in newly reported yet old deaths retroactive to March and April — they’re reported on an accrual basis you know — adding in those old deaths to each new series for the last 4 weeks (from the 4th of July) to hide the decline.
KERMIT: If I may sir, your comments after the recent coordinated takedown of America’s Frontline Doctors event by Youtube, Facebook and Twitter … was sort of vague. Is it not true that the doctors’ expressed opinions and especially the trials and studies they claim support these views should be heard in the spirit of ‘freedom of information’?
DR. FAUCI: FOI is causing us a lot of problems in CDC and even more for Dave, as he has to respond to them all. It would be good if NIH went along with any other Universities who might be lobbying to remove academic research activities from FOI. FOI is having an impact on my research productivity. I also write references for people transferred out of BARDA like the whiny little snit Rick Bright. If I have to write a poor one, I make sure I leak my version of the truth in a phone call to the New York Times. I’m also much less helpful responding to members of the public who challenge me regularly than I was during that HIV mess. I’ve seen some of what I considered private and frank emails appear on websites. Issue here is blogsites have allowed these lockdown deniers to find one another around the world.
KERMIT: Thank you for your remarks today. One last … you have been on record as saying that masks in public are effective and not effective. Would you care to explain your present thought process?
DR. FAUCI: As luck would have it, these are precisely the trees that give the chance to build temperature records for most of the Holocene. I am confident that, before AD1850, they do contain a record of decadal-scale growth season temperature variability. I am equally confident that, after that date, they are recording something else.
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“According to Anthony Fauci, the USA has not beaten Covid-19 because the USA didn’t lock down hard enough.”
yup.
In dozens of huge cities across china a hard lock brought cases to near zero.
a baseline level where contact tracing can work.
what’s a hard lock look like?
1. one designated family member can leave the house once or twice per week.
2. everyone relies heavily on delivery. Delivery people must “sign” every package with their personal
stamp ( to aid in tracing)
3. masks.
4. Quarantine the mild and asymptomatic cases.
do that and you get to a low baseline within 15-20 days. A low baseline can be managed.
Alternativel you can get to a low baseline the Korean way.
1. Isolation of the mild and asymptomatic cases: Government took over buildings and converted them
to isolation wards.
2. Stopping meetings in congregate settings: churches, restaurants, bars, ect.
3. masks.
4. test and trace.
If you do half measures, if you have poor compliance then your infection count will go down
But not to a baseline level where you can do contact tracing and transmission intervention.
half measures get you MORE damage
Stating the farging obvious isn’t helpful is it? Is this China? Do we intern Muslims here? Do we kill political enemies of the State here? Do we weld people’s private homes doors shut here?
Well if we don’t, what’s your fracking point?
Haven’t heard you shoot your mouth off about Texas in a while. What’s the deal? No warning of dead kids? No more alarmism? Where’s the articles about the overrun hospitals? What happened dood? Did you make some hard predictions and they didn’t pan out?
https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/0d8bdf9be927459d9cb11b9eaef6101f
Mosher, you are an idiot if you believe any numbers from China. I’ll be sure to skip your comments in the future, a total waste of time.
What STILL no comment on TX?
Where’s the “way to go tx” followed by some soon-to-be-award-winning-weekend-dog-walker-turned-investigative-journalist alarmist decrying the state of the State’s hospital system?
eh? where dood?? you there???
hello????
Here’s some comforting jams for ya: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLKb9Ms68ME
I have kittens too.
And now, the rest of the story …
Having a “low baseline” as a primary goal does not solve a problem.
Advocating and utilizing a “low baseline” as a tool to solve an undefined problem is a bunch of silly shit?
Half measures cause the same damage as do full measures with respect to the time line.
This is not polio … it cannot be eradicated by half or full measures. Prior to critiquing the ‘measures’ one needs to have a full grasp of the desired outcome first.
1) What is the desired outcome?
2) What do we do to get there?
3) How do we incorporate flexibility if the desired outcome changes, or if we find that our actions are detrimental to the desired outcome?
4) Is it O.K. to lie about the desired outcome to fool others into cooperating with chosen actions?