Leaked Emails Call for Censorship of Michael Moore’s New Film

 “It must come down off your pages immediately.”

Medium author Matt Orfalea has written a piece published June 1st that shows a revealing look into the Josh Fox’s campaign to get Planet of the Humans removed from YouTube.

In a now deleted tweet, the copyright claimant responsible for the takedown, Toby Smith, called the movie a “baseless, shite doc built on bull-shit”. Smith later admitted he filed the copyright claim because he doesn’t agree with the film’s message.

On April 22nd, Fox sent emails to colleagues and public relations professionals  describing the film and demanding it’s removal from various platforms.

From: ​Josh Fox​
Date: Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 12:41 AM

Dear friends-

I am so sorry to have to be the messenger here.

But.

This new Michael Moore movie, is, to put it politely
A GIGANTIC CROCK OF SHIT.

It is a disgusting unfactual unscientific abomination.

You must take it down ASAP.

I am so serious.

It is absolutely disgustingly horrible. Beyond it being terribly made, amateurish and inept. It has absolutely no factual basis. It encourages the most baseless kind of thinking. It also goes after heroes in our movement in gotcha type interviews for no absolutely reason.

It is TERRIBLE reporting. Cherry picking, ignorant. It is not only untrue, not factual in any way it is incredibly deceptive.

I cannot stress this enough. This film is as untruthful and deceitful as anything Donald Trump EVER did.

It must come down off of your pages immediately.

Please call me ASAP. This is terribly upsetting. I don’t care what time of day or night it is, this abhorrent piece of misinformation must be rejected and disavowed immediately.

IMMEDIATELY.

He sounds super serious doesn’t he? Here is an email less than an hour later to the public relations professionals.

From: ​Josh Fox​
Date: Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 1:05 AM

Dear activist friends and climate heroes-

I have bad news. There is a new MICHAEL MOORE produced film which just came out online which is an affront to all of our work.

The movie is a badly-made, unfactual smear peace that attacks the basic mainstays of environmentalism.

The film attacks renewable energy and climate leaders who promote renewable energy development in very unfair ways.

It is an unscientific, unwatchable sensationalistic piece of yellow journalism. Michael was just on Stephen Colbert promoting it. I think Michael Moore must have totally lost his mind to promote this.

It is called PLANET OF THE HUMANS and Moore has propped up a spiffy website to promote it.

The film needs to be roundly condemned. It is dangerous, and unfactual.

Please take a look, see what I mean and get in touch with me ASAP. A number of reputable websites are hosting this abomination and I need your support in getting them to take it down. See below.

Thanks

Josh
LINK TO THE FILM: https://www.filmsforaction.org/watch/michael-moore-presents-planet-of-the-humans/

The article gives much more detail of debates and machinations behind the scenes, but also notes this rather tired tactic of the woke.

Accusations of Anti-Semitism and Eco-Fascism

“Planet of the Humans” discusses the issue of ever increasing population growth. However, there is absolutely no mention or suggestion of population control in the film. Instead, the film’s solution is to reduce consumption, not population. Nevertheless, Fox accuses the movie’s “old white guy” filmmakers of pushing “eco-fascism”.

Read the full article here.

126 thoughts on “Leaked Emails Call for Censorship of Michael Moore’s New Film

  1. Any behaviour is justified if it moves you toward your goal. Facts, feelings, ethics, all are impediments to success. Don’t give them a second thought.

    • What serves their belif that the Western World must be destroyed Cultural and Economic is logical. What does not is in logical.

    • This behaviour is characteristic of both fascist as well as communist brains, in other words control freaks. Opinions outside the party line are forbidden.

        • Modern leftism IS a religion. It’s the atheist death cult.

          Except whereas some death cults were happy just to kill themselves, this lot want to take all of us with them.

          • “Modern leftism IS a religion. It’s the atheist death cult.”

            You got the first part right, but not the second, at least not where it concerns all atheists. Many on the left are Christians. Heck, Obama said “God bless” more than Dubya did. And Pelosi prays for Trump all the time.

          • Per Moldbug, “a mystery cult of power”. Which removes the need to specify “modern” unless use it for everything that came after than Rousseau.

          • Per Moldbug, “a mystery cult of power”. Which also removes the need to specify “modern” (unless use it for everything that came to bazaar of ideas after Rousseau).

      • Aw , the poor little “climate heroes” !

        So “heroic” they can not take some legitimate criticism. Weepy Bill McKibben who so bravely wept in public to save the planet.

        In all the claims about how bad, inaccurate etc. this film is supposed to be , I have yet to hear one specific claim of one specific part of the film which it wrong in a specific way.

        I mean “old white men” is NOT actually a valid logical point. “Antisemitism” is now meaningless it is so wildly thrown at any and all opponents by those devoid of any legitimate argument.

        The film is “inaccurate” …. but they never state how, in a way that can fact checked and validated or refuted.

        One this it certainly blow the lid off was the massive extent of the destruction of living breathing trees in an absurd, twisted logic for not burning trees which have been dead for millions of years.

        I honestly never realised what “biomass” really meant. I am hugely thankful to M. Moore for shining a light on the scale of that problem.
        It is just the usual liberal hissy fit they throw when someone does not kow-tow before their dogmatic political orthodoxy.

    • It must have hurt them enormously, in every possible way imaginable, to find that their “hero” had been blindsided by reality and said so.

      What a bunch of spoiled brats. That they are all physically adults does not make them less spoiled, but if they can’t “get” his message – that it’s all hogwash and he finally saw through the lies for himself, and said so – he is now a “traitor to The Cause”.

      There’s one less chance to rule the world for them. What a sad, sad story.

      Do I have to post a ‘sarc’ after all that?

      • We delighted in demonstrating the flaws in ‘The inconvenient truth’ .

        Similarly, the sceptics case could be made stronger if we were to openly point out the errors in the Moore film as you then remove ammunition from climate activists claim that the WHIOLE film is wrong .

        An acknowledgement of those few incorrect elements makes the rest of it much stronger

        tonyb

        .

        • Tonyb,

          The film has lots of unscientific flaws, like the bits about population control and the destruction of capitalism are THE ONLY solution to global warming, and almost no mention of Nuclear power… but pointing this out to leftists won’t help.

          If anything, the movie went way too soft on the ecological/human disasters caused by “green technology” other than showing s few mountain tops leveled, Solar panels being strip mined, 500 year old trees being ground to mulch and some abandoned solar/wind projects.

          Only about 4 seconds of it were devoted to Chinese indentured child miners in Africa.

          • UNGN yeah there were flaws but cut this lefty a lot of slack. He may be misled but he’s an honest guy who seemed genuinely gobsmacked over what he did find with vaunted green solution to climate change.

            The population stuff was a kneejerk vague statement about what is needed when the lefty multitrillion dollar solution turned to be useless. In fact the statement underscores the total wrongness about renewables.

            Note, he said he didn’t know that you had to have fossil fuel backup. I’d like to encourage him to keep following up on this first loose thread for a second film. I’d be happy to contribute to a crowd funding (he won’t get funds the regular way).

        • as you then remove ammunition from climate activists claim …

          you are still under the naive impression that honesty and integrity means anything to these guys? You will just be helping them find faults they area too stupid to see themselves and add weight to their attacks on the film.

          They will then say the “WHIOLE film is wrong ” … and even climate skeptics agree with us !

        • I second that tony. We should list the good points and why they are so and the bad. I think Moore needs a few friends. He’s looked behind the obvious curtain re the purported “greeness” and the suitability of renewables for the task of replacing fossil fuels. This is just window dressing for the real big scoop behind the climate non-issue.

          I will say that Moore turns out to be an honest guy. He set out to do a feel good film about renewables, but he reported the otherwise that he actually found.

          • Moore gains huge cred for breaking from the mold of binary politics to report what he actually sees.

            He will now be dismissed as being an old, white male.

          • Well, my agreeing with Mr. Moore on most anything is a sign of the Apocalypse. Any case haven’t seen the movie, probably won’t but the claims:

            The movie is a badly-made…..Beyond it being terribly made, amateurish and inept.

            Unless they are commenting on the content; I seriously doubt; If one thing M. Moore would know is camera angles and how to put a film together.

          • taz
            Yes, how many films (successful or otherwise) has Fox produced that provide him with the experience to judge whether the film is poorly done or not? The fact that Fox and others are complaining so strongly suggests that the film is TOO good! If it were as he describes, he could laugh it off, confident that no one would take it seriously because it is so “amateurish.”

          • Moore is honest like Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin were honest.

            They are convinced something that has never worked will work if only the right people are finally running it and the fastest way to make everyone equal is take from the evil “haves” and give it to saintly “have nots” until wealth is equitably spread.

            Its better to just tell people its a pretty well made movie (worth the 1.5 Hour watch) and what you see speaks for itself. Then sit back and pop some popcorn.

            If a liberal questions the accuracy of the movie, tell THEM to make a point by point rebutal, instead of trying to have it censored thru chickeshite copyright strikes.

        • No. The enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy – no more, no less.

          Supporting the Marxist Michael Moore is the same as supporting the Marxist Chinese against the Marxist Russians. Note just how well THAT turned out!

          • This is different than Arming the Taliban.

            This is more like sending blue Jeans/rock&roll to Eastern Europeans. It shows what they are being told is wrong, by one of their own. We can’t do that. If you have a Liberal friend that is convinced we NEED renewable energy, they need to watch this movie.

            Liberals don’t think Michael Moore sucks. Their reaction to the movie will either be 1) Michael Moore sucks or 2) Green energy i a scam – win or win.

    • They should quote their words on the publicity stills. Publishing that sort of hateful bias would make anyone wonder what it is they are trying to cover up.

      • Excellent idea. It made me think of Monty Python’s Life of Brian. The box that the video came in had quotes from various bishops and Malcolm Muggeridge such as “This squalid little film” and “Anyone who finds it funny must have something wrong with their mentality.

    • But but but 97 percent !! 97 percent !!! no no no not one opposing viewpoint will be allowed, it is to be removed immediately. The science is on our side, it is irrefutable, the models are all 100 percent correct at the same time. Shows you how big the crisis is.

      But still I will go completely apesh1t if there is only one detail which opposes my rock-solids believes.
      I have become dogma-man

    • I think Michael Moore/Jeff Gibbs changed their minds, based on what they found.

      I have watched the film twice. It makes a person think.

      Park what you think about climate change, that is the point of the film.

      The Green Scams come across as corrupt pointless madness…… A solution that is a lie, that is causing significant pointless environmental damage with little real reduction in CO2 emissions.

      Planet of the Humans

      https://www.bitchute.com/video/KQnVEMOOYuJd/

  2. The documentary hit the spot then didn’t it

    I don’t see that what were once greenfield sites hundreds of hectares in extent, that are now rubble strewn ‘brown-field’ sites, can be faked.

    The world is going to be strewn with these abandoned follies. Not only solar ‘capture’ sites but also dead windmills on land and in the sea monuments to the gullibility of politicians.

    • Yeah but, joking aside, the democrats at least present an alternative.

      ,,,,,,,,, ooooh errr, hold on a sec. !!!

  3. Who is this eco-fascist who would like to shut down free speech and relies on his grandparents surviving the Holocaust to give himself credibility?

    Some people have great wit; others are great f…wits!

  4. Josh Fox is proving that he is a master of projection. Fox’s movies are guilty of the claims he makes about “Planet of the Humans.” Fox’s response to ban Moore’s film is typical of the cancel culture we are living today.

  5. I watched about half before giving up. It is rambling nonsensical garbage – pretty much on par for Moore films.

    But that is hardly justification for censorship. There wouldn’t be much on TV if all the rambling nonsensical garbage was removed.

    I find it shocking that anyone thought it was impactful enough to bother suppressing it.

    • re: “I watched about half before giving up. ”

      The first part was tripe; too bad it put you off watching the last half.

      re: “I find it shocking that anyone thought it was impactful enough to bother suppressing it.”

      Uninformed comment, since you didn’t see the second half. I think the first part was supposed to grant the film’s author (NOT Michael Moore BTW; he is listed as Executive Producer or some such in the credit roll) some indulgence for the 2nd half. Apparently, that did not work …

      • “uninformed” or not, movie viewers aren’t going to stick around for a “brilliant” second half if the first half is “tripe” (your own description) so bad that they stop watching before the “good bits” come on. And if viewers aren’t going to stick around, that means it’s not going to have much impact. First rule of movie making: grab your viewers attention as quickly as you can. fail that and it doesn’t matter how brilliant, insightful, etc the ending is, as not many will stick around to see it.

        • re: “movie viewers aren’t going to stick around for a “brilliant” second half if the first half is “tripe””

          AND you missed the reason (I think) it was done that way. I think SOME of you people cannot keep two (or more) ideas in your heads at the same time.Maybe the term “indulgences” threw you? PLEASE tell me you are familiar with the history of that term.

          BY THIS TIME there have been enough REVIEWS written about this movie that it SHOULD BE KNOWN the first part is about ‘apologizing’ for man’s appearance on this planet.

          John Endicott, you are also an exemplification of the ‘dumbing down’ of debate in the US, and on this site in particular. it isn’t ANY fun having to explain EACH POINT of a previous post.

          • I think everyone on WUWT should copy those Josh Fox E-mails and forward them to everyone they can find an E-mail address for, ….. with a “descriptor” stating …..

            “This is how Global Warming fanatics react when confronted with the scientific facts that are presented in the new Michael Moore movie – Planet of the Humans”.

            From: Josh Fox

            Date: Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 12:41 AM

            Dear friends-

            I am so sorry to have to be the messenger here.

            But.

            This new Michael Moore movie, is, to put it politely

            A GIGANTIC CROCK OF SHIT.

            It is a disgusting unfactual unscientific abomination.

            You must take it down ASAP.

            I am so serious.

            It is absolutely disgustingly horrible. Beyond it being terribly made, amateurish and inept. It has absolutely no factual basis. It encourages the most baseless kind of thinking. It also goes after heroes in our movement in gotcha type interviews for no absolutely reason.

            It is TERRIBLE reporting. Cherry picking, ignorant. It is not only untrue, not factual in any way it is incredibly deceptive.

            I cannot stress this enough. This film is as untruthful and deceitful as anything Donald Trump EVER did.

            It must come down off of your pages immediately.

            Please call me ASAP. This is terribly upsetting. I don’t care what time of day or night it is, this abhorrent piece of misinformation must be rejected and disavowed immediately.

            IMMEDIATELY.

            Followed by the 2nd one ……..

            From: Josh Fox

            Date: Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 1:05 AM

            Dear activist friends and climate heroes-

            I have bad news. There is a new MICHAEL MOORE produced film which just came out online which is an affront to all of our work.

            The movie is a badly-made, unfactual smear peace that attacks the basic mainstays of environmentalism.
            ………………

        • Watch the whole thing then make up your own mind. The first half was a good prelude to the second half. The film works, or it would not be so controversial.

        • First rule of movie making: grab your viewers attention as quickly as you can.

          Here might be an opportunity for a “Eureka!” moment, John.

          Moore’s not making his film for people like you. He’s made it for progressive viewers. The thinking isn’t the same.

          Just to confirm, that’s a compliment.

          • Indeed he is, and from the reaction (trying to get it banned) progressives didn’t care for it.

          • (trying to get it banned) progressives didn’t care for it.

            Which had everything to do with the fact that it melts their snowflake assumptions and nothing to do with how bad the screenplay was.

            But nevermind, it’s clear my complimenting you was wholly misbegotten.

          • Which had everything to do with the fact that it melts their snowflake assumptions and nothing to do with how bad the screenplay was.

            Where did I claim otherwise? I was agreeing with what you had just said about who he was making it for (hence “Indeed he is”) and what do you do in reply, misrepresent and insult? based on your past behavior, I shouldn’t be surprised.

          • Ladies and Gentleman, give it up for John Endicott!! The facetiously erudite king of vacuous verisimilitude!!

            (*APPLAUSE*)

        • _Jim, insults only show your own lack of debating skills and lack of any real point.

          It doesn’t matter how many reviews are “out there”. Viewers don’t care. Many never even look at reviews. What viewers care about is what they see, and if they see tripe they tune out. tuned out people = not much impact. Hopefully that’s “dumbed down” enough for even you to comprehend for a change.

    • Vb Among those that are in the know and run the show, it was clearly ‘impactful’. A poker player would say that the over-the-top information free rage against the film by Fox, Mann and the usual suspects, instead of a one two-punch savvy critique, reveals that the Totality Team harbors deep inside them the same doubts about the rectitude and objectives of the clime syndicate as that of the film. They have no critique.

      Remember these folk have lost every debate they ever had with sceptics in front of majority climate meme audiences – the reason they’ve refused to debate for over a decade. Having not got game, they only try to shut you up, take you to court, insult, go after your livelyhood, gatekeep journals and scientific societies. What kind of people are these to have a beer with? I hope their pets and significant others are okay.

      • Agreed. People who are confident in their positions don’t feel a great need to shut down opposing views.

        Typical of the left to be so insecure and demand censorship of any opposition. For them, opposition is always hate speech or micro aggression or some variant of nazism.

    • Great post – thank you Sommer.

      Told you so, years ago.
      Regards, Allan 🙂

      UNDERCOVER INVESTIGATION – MINNEAPOLIS RIOT WAS PREPLANNED
      Millie Weaver, 8June2020
      https://www.millennialmillie.com/post/undercover-investigation-minneapolis-riot-was-preplanned
      Excerpt

      “The events that erupted in Minneapolis, Minnesota were not a spontaneous reaction to the murder of George Floyd. These were well planned events anticipating some perfect trigger point to bring about the “new normal” – a world without police, without borders, without industry, without wealth, without private property, without an economy – a world based on communist ideals imbedded within the Green New Deal.

      The Green New Deal is not about climate change, it is about climate justice – a radical new ideology hellbent on destroying western civilization under the false pretense that white supremacy is the leading cause of climate change, social injustice and all problems globally.”

  6. The left doesn’t like facts. You give them facts, they just get mad, they try to ignore them , they end up hating you. They don’t list counter facts, they don’t have them.

    – JPP

    • Yes, hate and the denial of facts they don’t like is the hallmark of the political left. Rather than denegrate otherwise sound policy opposing their narrative, they throw temper tantrums as they denigrate those who support it.

      The evil of racism is that it’s driven by unjustifiable hate against an identifiable group. Why is the constant hate spewed by the left against the right not considered as bad, if not worse? My guess is that hating individual people because of their position on subjective issues is not in the toolkit of the political right, so the MSM doesn’t complain about it.

      Political racism by the left is the only systemic racism problem in the US. Other than that, the US is the least racist country in the world and why so many immigrants of color want to come here.

  7. I never thought I would be recommending or applauding Michael Moore on anything but I watched and liked this. Pulled the rug out from under the climate disaster crowd.

    • Like so many leftist celebrities, Michael Moore is an imbecile – or at least a slow learner.

      Mikey finally came out against Green Energy in his latest film – only 18 years after energy experts like my co-authors and me published that Green Energy was fatally flawed due to intermittency and diffusivity. Even little children knew decades ago that the wind does not blow all the time, and the Sun does not shine at night – Yes, Really! Quelle surprise!

      Grid-connected electrical generation must be dispatchable – not intermittent. Wind and solar electrical generation take up ‘way too much land, and will never replace conventional power generation – wind and solar are much too diffuse. The Green New Deal is a fantasy, concocted by scoundrels and believed in by imbeciles.

      Now Mikey Moore says let the precinct in Minneapolis burn – God Almighty that is stupid! That is someone’s neighborhood – people live and work there – small businesses and residences have been burned out, lives have been shattered, and good people have been killed – and Mikey sits high in his safe gated community, raises his ponderous bulk, looks down over the parapet and says it’s all OK. Sure it is Mikey – for you! Maybe you can shoot another film about it.

  8. “Smith later admitted he filed the copyright claim because he doesn’t agree with the film’s message.”

    These people come across as very immature individuals. The truth revealed in the film must hurt them immensely.

  9. Wow! Whoever thought Donald Trump and Michael Moore would be identified as having similar characteristics? “This film is as untruthful and deceitful as anything Donald Trump ever did”. I wonder if Michael Moore will be inspired to run for election to the presidency? Where does this end up? I need a drink, some of that special fruit juice should do the trick.

  10. The salutation has me confused: “Dear activist friends and climate heroes-”

    I know what an “activist friend” is but I do not know what or who “climate heroes” are.

    • it was a typo, should have been ” zeroes” (ie slang for an unpopular person/a loser).

    • It’s not his thoughts you need concern yourself with, it’s his actions. He’s trying to censor what you are allowed to see/hear online, do you really want the like of him deciding what ideas you are allowed to be exposed to?

    • Toby Nixon
      June 9, 2020 at 7:35 am

      I quite agree.

      Until today I had never heard of Josh Fox. Even now I can’t be bothered to find out…he is totally irrelevant to my life and I suspect that of many others. I’m heartily sick of media people thinking they and whatever they do or think is just soooo important.

      • Well, he did successfully prevent you from seeing a movie you didn’t want to see.

        But yea, John Endicott has the correct answer…

  11. The education of Michael Moore continues. Bring on the sequel about the cancel and censorship culture.

    How about a short film on Solyndra or Crescent Dunes or Ivanpah?

    • I didn’t agree with everything in Bowling for Columbine, but there were a lot of thought provoking themes in it. What I got from it was that America doesn’t so much have a gun culture problem as it does have a fear culture problem. I’m not sure if that was his intent, but that is what I got from the film. It was an interesting perspective.

  12. You can watch the movie at 1.5x speed to help tolerate the excesses in it and still get the facts about the insane green energy nonsense and contradictions. Ecoidiocy. See also “Burning” – easier to watch and more exposure of the stupidity of green energy.

  13. Who TF is this jerk anyway, and was he drunk when he wrote those emails?

    What a mincer.

  14. ” It is absolutely disgustingly horrible. Beyond it being terribly made, amateurish and inept. It has absolutely no factual basis. It encourages the most baseless kind of thinking. It also goes after heroes in our movement in gotcha type interviews for no absolutely reason. ”

    Any MM movie, in fact. It’s still no reason to take it down.

  15. Lets see now – DRAX (UK Power Station) burns 7,000,000 tonnes of US trees per year as wooden pellets
    This is transported 3000 miles by ship and then land transport at either end
    Ships burn 25000 to 50000 gallons of heavy fuel oil per day
    Diesel trains burn about 10 gallons per mile
    3 ships per week to feed DRAX
    15 train loads per ship (approx)
    Then burning the fuel itself produces its own pollution and CO2
    The BBC have quoted this amounts to NET zero emissions!
    Programmes like the Planet of the Humans, expose this renewable bull

      • You forgot unfortunate facts the biomass furnaces have to heat up water, the ultimate in inefficient energy buffers.
        The entire cycle is the most primitive steam engine of 1775.

        So, we start with water at below room temperature, – it’s hard to imagine the vast amount of energy entailed to convert that to a decent STEAM pressure.
        Furnace temps, let’s say 800C, water boiling point 100C, wow that is looking good, but we are doing this 200+ years now!

        It’s only once it’s in this state it becomes useful as an energy conversion source, while absorbing vast amounts more wasted energy into the various vessels and jets to direct it into steam turbines, which themselves have inherent losses, as do the various interfaces and transformers to get the electricity out of the station.

        It then has to be brought back DOWN in temperature to water again, to roughly room temperatures so it can be handled easily once again.
        ie. VAST WASTED ENERGY.

        Water is in effect one of the most painful energy buffers known to man, entailing throwing away at least HALF to 3/4 the energy input away as waste heat, while the smoke carries on up the chimney.

        Indeed, burning stuff to make hot water is an utter nonsense from start to finish, so collectively when looking at the entire energy in, to energy out chains we throw away easily in excess of 90% of whatever energy we put in as HEAT, including most forms of the 20th century idea,
        “the internal combustion engine”.

        We have progressed as a civilisation no further than WATT.
        We discuss it on WATTS – UWT, while vast numbers of those same internal combustion engines usually stand in traffic jams caused by our entire obsolete way of life.

        The only viable alternative to change any of this vicious circle of burning stuff, wasting energy, virtue signalling and peak BS surrounding it, is to heat up water or some other better energy buffer with reactions that are happening anyway in nature, & which we merely harness for our energy hungry, general prancing around & debating.

        FISSION with water
        or
        FISSION with HOT SALT.

        There are no other alternatives that we know of more advanced, less polluting, and more efficient than the basic 18th century steam engine.
        All the other stuff, windmills, solar panels et al couldn’t be built without them.

        (Saint Greta and her ilk are out there to wean you off the 20th century kerosene powered jet engine, which is actually remarkably efficient considering the entire transport system actually has to LIFT it’s fuel as well.)

  16. “I am so serious.”

    Wow, I guess he really is. Even more than if he was just regular serious.

    Do you think he stomped his foot as he wrote that?

  17. I’ve been alive quite a while now, and I must say … it is a combination of odd, alarming and deeply troubling that “the Left” which has coöpted environmentalism, “green” / “renewable energy”, childrens’-thru-higher education, much of “soft science”, the majority of publicly funded universities, vast swathes of government, especially at the “apparatchik level”, — it is deeply troubling to note the profligacy of their tactics: it always, ALWAYS decomposes into barely (or un-) bridled vituperation, hate-speech, actual threats, intolerant spewing, and cheekily unmetered assertions that They As A Group have Special Rights and Authority to squash anyone-and-everyone’s free speech … that doesn’t agree with their factious brand of nursery-rhymed witchery.

    (Wow, that’s one long sentence.)

    But it is true! … Moore crafts a remarkable excoriation of Renewable Energy’s 50+ year long run on failed experiments, failed policy, failed public monies investments, egregious toxic wastes, leveled forests, downright criminal chicanery and doublespeak, … ALL in language which is just the opposite of the first paragraph’s point, even, soft, urgent, non-abusive … and what does The Left do?

    First page in their playbook. CENSURE those who make dâhmned-difficult-to-ignore counterpoints to their fairy-tale narrative of What Should We All Be Doing.

    Freedom of Speech? Nah, that’s only for their advocacy.
    Freedom of Critical Thought? Nope: free thought directed the ‘wrong’ direction is DANGEROUS thought.
    Freedom to Publish? No way! BAN IT. Burn the Witch!

    7th decade, and I have watched — across the world — the Left ratchet up their tactical game, each and every year.

    2020 is worse, not by far, but by an amount greater than 1, than 2015. Likewise,
    2015 was worse, not by far, but again by a factor greater than 1, than 2010.
    2010, more than 2005.
    2005 more than 2000.
    2000 more than 1995, 1990, 1985, 1980.

    Only comparing against 1975, does that ratchet-upwards take a break.

    Again, and just a coincidence of our times, I look at the extraordinary rise in the last 2 weeks of downright wicked social disorder in the context of pent-up-energies fueled by stir-crazy shelter-in-place citizens in black-eyed and body-bruised economies, at what The Left has broadly decreed as acceptable unmanaged anger and destructiveness, and their leadership’s glossing over of ALL the hatred, ALL the hate-speech, ALL the opportunist-and-hate-filled looting … and I just have to think, “this too is The Left”.

    Hatred of any question of their narrative that we’re either going to Hêll if we do not pray at their paper maché alter of vote-grabbing Green policies and Green nursery school fairy tales, OR we are going to someplace even worse (!!!) if we ‘leak’ or ‘pass on’ or ‘not roundly condemn’ YouTube videos, website articles, paper-and-ink books or anything else that criticizes their flim-flam position and motives.

    I’m winded.
    Done now.

    ⋅-⋅-⋅ Just saying, ⋅-⋅-⋅
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  18. I’ve never seen a better display of the panic that sets in when someone realizes that he’s down a narrow dead-end street without a reverse gear.

  19. The BBC has been giving a lot of space and time to the fact that no electricity has been produced using coal for two months. Also trumpeted was the falling cost of renewable wind energy, not yet reflected in domestic bills, and wood burning Drax also featured including the 7 million tons of American wood which is virtually carbon neutral apparently. No mention of low demand because of a 12 week lockdown and unusually warm spring. Typical BBC.

  20. “The movie is a badly-made, unfactual smear peace that”

    Enough about your movies Josh Fox, what did you think of the Planet of the Humans? 😉

  21. Forgive my ignorance, but who the heck is this character Josh Fox? Is he in any way significant? What has he ever done of significance ?
    Seriously, who is he?

    • In the current context, what Josh Fox did which was ‘of significance’ was to produce an anti-fracking documentary called ‘Gasland’. It merits all of the barbs which Josh Fox himself has thrown at ‘Planet of the Humans’. The main claim of this documentary was that fracking polluted the water supply. Suitable citizens were wheeled out to substantiate this claim, complaining about sickness acquired from drinking their own water. In fact, there was so much methane in the water supply that they were able to set fire to their tap (faucet in US).

      This film was demolished by Phelim McAleer and Anne McElhinney, two Irish investigative journalists, who produced the documentary ‘FrackNation’. They went back to the complaining family with government officials to take samples of their water to have it analysed. The family didn’t want samples to be taken : instead, they wanted to hand over their own sample jar. In the end, a sample was obtained and tested OK.

      Phelim McAleer confronted Josh Fox at a news conference and pointed out that there had been reports of taps being set on fire since before the days of fracking. Josh Fox conceded that this phenomenon had been happening since the 1930s but he hadn’t mentioned this in his documentary because ‘it was not relevant’.

  22. Looking at Josh Fox’s disgusting mug, he looks sooooo like the stereotypical indoctrinated, smug, entitled-elitist marxist-progressive. A pic of him would serve well for target-practice.

  23. All these militant commie Sanders revolutionary types are all the same, you’re either with them or you are part of the problem. No nuance, they have all the answers, and so blessed are they, that any means justifies their ends.

    Look at the countries that they admire to get an idea what they have in store for you.

    • THey have delusions of grandeur – messiah complex and they think that we are the problem

  24. Both of Fox’s rants are opinion pieces he thinks are facts. It is a consistent problems with the Radical “Woke’s” They are divorced from reality.

  25. Oh, hey…if this movie is as “good” as anything Donald Trump ever produced, I might actually take the time to watch it!

    Thanks for the recommendation, Mr. Fox!

  26. What really terrifies the Greenie/Alarmists is that it is one of their own cherished brethren who has seen the Light and come over to the side of rational thought. Global Warming fanatics always react badly when confronted with the scientific facts.

  27. Also other people have claimed that the movie is “untruthful and deceitful”, “untrue, not factual” and “unfactual unscientific”.

    However has anyone ever made any attempt to write down the claims in the movie which are supposedly not correct? I have not seen any rebuttal. I would be interested to read those as well.

    • Peter
      Yes, Fox’s complaints are essentially ad hominem attacks on Moore, with no specific points being contested, or alternative facts provided.

  28. Censorship- the bastion of evil cowards and power mongers. Here in Canada our minority government is making repeated attempts to silence voices it doesn’t like. All the while funding voices it does like with tax dollars. It can’t get much sicker than that. I’m not sure anymore what it will take to get the masses angry enough to do something…

  29. ”You must take it down ASAP.

    I am so serious.

    It is absolutely disgustingly horrible. Beyond it being terribly made, amateurish and inept”’

    The man doth protesteth too much me thinks.

  30. You can always tell someone is going to say something stupid when they are wearing stupid hats.

  31. When Michael Moore conflated Dick Clark’s business operations with a child being murdered because some useless sack of $hit left a gun out for his 6-year old nephew to find, I thought, “here stands a man with no more brains than a small pile of rat droppings.” He confirmed my conclusion when he used the Oscar podium to squawk about a stolen election.

    Now I have to concede that just maybe, brains or not, his only real concern is for the common working person. He sure as hell is still deeply misguided though with this stale anti-capitalist cant.

  32. Typical leftist thinking. ‘You can have freedom of speech as long as it doesn’t contradict what we are saying! ‘ and if they have the opportunity they’ll make Moore look like an evil “white” villain before throwing him under the bus.

  33. My thoughts. Man made climate change is a given. There were lots of scenes where people who were promoting renewable energy were asked fairly obvious questions and squirmed while admitting that fossil fuels were actually still involved. Great scenes were the mass gatherings with stage acts powered by solar power were revealed to have diesel back up. Mining is constantly depicted as being horrendously bad for the environment but, although it makes a mess while it is happening, the damage can be repaired by design or simply by nature reclaiming the site over time. The whole wood burning thing is exposed as the insanity that it is. At the end he blames the whole mess on evil capitalists instead of stupid and corrupt politicians. There is also some prog rock.

      • When Australian Antarctic Territory South Indian Ocean Heard Island erupted a few years ago the island was obliterated – 5 years later it was completely revegatated simply from bird droppings

  34. But…but…but…..he’s a “bully!”

    Oh give me a break. Calm the hell down and realize the world is full of every color not just black and white for crying out loud. Grow some balls and do something constructive. Make a movie or a commentary discussing the points you disagree with and back it up with facts and more importantly cited researched sources. Disagree like an adult, not as a kid telling the teacher what happened with the “bully” in the playground.

    Otherwise, sit down, shut up and open your ears, you might actually learn a thing or two. And for cripes sake, PROOFREAD your stuff! You want to be taken seriously as a dissenting voice against something you don’t agree with, well, proofread and edit. Calm your anger and fear, gather your thoughts and present your counterargument like a communicator rather than a spoiled little child.

    The response to your anger spewing letter should have been, “Moore is entitled to his opinion, if you have a dissenting opinion or a counterargument, please feel free to upload your own video on your own channel.” In other words, “sorry but we are neutral, you are allowed to disagree with anyone and produce your own video saying so on our platform as long as it conforms to our rules and regulations that you signed when you became a creator. Opinions of creators are not the opinions of our company, we are not liable as we are a PLATFORM not a PUBLISHER.”

  35. Is anyone else concerned how illiterate and incoherent his writing is? Does this man have even a basic education?

  36. So the Opportunistic Woke and Woke Left Behind began to eat each other in earnest. Let’s wish them both good luck in this laudable new pastime?

    It is absolutely disgustingly horrible. Beyond it being terribly made, amateurish and inept. It has absolutely no factual basis. It encourages the most baseless kind of thinking. It also goes after […] in gotcha type interviews for no absolutely reason.
    […] It is an unscientific, unwatchable sensationalistic piece of yellow journalism. […] Moore has propped up a spiffy website to promote it.

    Huh, sounds like… a typical Michael Moore movie. Why is he so surprised? Did he did notice any of this before? Where he was back then? :]

  37. Rare Metal production is hardly a dirty little secret anymore. Greens have known about it for ages but have swept it under the rug

    • Some dumbasses just don’t want to understand that it is not about them but about what we are doing to natural environments in the name of saving the planet from CO2 emissions which for the past 2.7 billion years have been feeding the evolution of respiring organisms. If you want to know more about ‘climate change’ you can look me up on Quora.

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