Mexico’s President Is Betting Big AGAINST Renewables

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By Irina Slav – May 07, 2020, 10:00 AM CDT

It sounds like a news report out of yet another dystopian novel: Mexico is halting grid connection for new solar and wind power projects. In a world rushing to produce clean energy, Mexico has suddenly stood out like a sore thumb. But, as usual, there’s more to the story.

The country’s National Energy Control Center, or Cenace, announced it would suspend grid connections of new solar and wind farms until further notice earlier this week. The motivation behind the decision was the intermittency of solar and wind power generation, which, according to the state-owned power market operator, could compromise Mexico’s energy security in difficult times.

“The intermittent generation from wind and PV plants affects the reliability of the national electricity system, [impacting] the sufficiency, quality and continuity of power supply,” Cenace wrote in a document setting out the rules of the country’s electricity market during the Covid-19 lockdown.

Naturally, the move was immediately attacked by the business community as an attempt by the government to interfere with private businesses.

“Without solid technical motivation or fully justified legal basis … Cenace has neglected its legal mandate to safeguard the efficiency of the national electric system and competition in the electricity market, which negatively impacts thousands of consumers in the commercial and industrial sector,” business group Consejo Coordinador Empresarial, or CCE, said in a statement. “Like before, the private sector will take the necessary legal measures to preserve the level field and Mexicans’ right to a healthy environment,” the body added. Related: Could Renewable Spending Solve The Unemployment Crisis In Oil?

According to CCE, the move, which stops pre-connection tests for solar and wind farms explicitly, is the latest push against renewables on the part of the government. Conservative in its approach to the energy industry and protectionist of state-owned utilities, the Andres Manuel Lope Obrador government is, according to the critics, trying to stifle renewables to support state-owned Comision Federal de Electricidad, PV Magazine’s Emiliano Bellini and Jorge Zarco wrote.

Mexico’s president has made no secret of his attitude to renewable energy, which could be called condescending. In a late March tweet, the Mexican president called wind turbines “fans”, saying they didn’t produce much energy. He proceeded to reportedly say that the government will stop issuing permits for new wind projects that interfere with the environment and cause “visual pollution”. Other reports of the same tweet said Obrador also downplayed the amount of electricity wind farms produce and said the companies that build them were private businesses that needed to be subsidized. In short, one could safely say AMLO is not a fan of… fans.

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74 thoughts on “Mexico’s President Is Betting Big AGAINST Renewables

  1. Full marks to the President of Mexico. That article was written obviously by a renewables enthusiast, who is probably not getting enough backhanders. A very welcome move, supplemented by Michael Moore’s excellent film “Planet of the Humans”.

    • “MEXICO’S PRESIDENT IS BETTING BIG AGAINST RENEWABLES” – great idea – I’d like a piece of that bet.

      In 2002, the fatal flaws of intermittent, diffuse wind and solar energy were clearly stated by Sallie Baliunas, Tim Patterson and me in our APEGA-sponsored debate with the leftist Pembina Institute on the Kyoto Protocol. We correctly stated in 2002:
      “THE ULTIMATE AGENDA OF PRO-KYOTO ADVOCATES IS TO ELIMINATE FOSSIL FUELS, BUT THIS WOULD RESULT IN A CATASTROPHIC SHORTFALL IN GLOBAL ENERGY SUPPLY – THE WASTEFUL, INEFFICIENT ENERGY SOLUTIONS PROPOSED BY KYOTO ADVOCATES SIMPLY CANNOT REPLACE FOSSIL FUELS.”

      However, the average individual does not understand the fatal flaws of intermittency and diffusivity, or the nuances of Capacity Factor versus Substitution Factor. He may not even be aware that he is being robbed of his hard-earned money by “green energy” scams.

      Especially for uneducated politicians and media, there was a need for some simple phrases that clearly stated that green energy is expensive, worthless, counterproductive nonsense. Sadly, even these brutally blunt statements were too subtle for green energy aficionados, and many trillions of dollars of scarce global resources were squandered on harmful, costly green energy schemes.

      https://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/07/06/from-the-ieee-a-skeptic-looks-at-alternative-energy/#comment-861197
      [excerpt]

      The Capacity Factor for land-based wind power is typically ~20-25%, but it is the Substitution Factor that really measures the usefulness of wind power, and that Substitution Factor can be as low as 4% of installed peak capacity. See Fig. 7 in E-On Netz Wind Report 2005.

      That is, for every 100 units of installed wind power capacity, you can replace only 4 units of conventional energy generating capacity.

      “WIND POWER – IT DOESN’T JUST BLOW, IT SUCKS!”

      Solar power is even worse than wind power, in that solar requires subsidies (paid by the consumer) many times that of wind power.

      “SOLAR POWER – STICK IT WHERE THE SUN DON’T SHINE!”

  2. …like a sore thumb. …

    Today, the we and United Kingdom celebrated the end of WWII
    during which the UK,
    while others fell over themselves to appease the N@z!s,
    stood out alone for many years,
    one
    beautiful,
    truth-defending,
    “sore thumb.”

    GO, MEXICO!

    lol “ventiladores” 🤣

      • Even he ended up in a situation when he had to say enough is enough. Remember that it was Chamberlain who gave the nasties the final ultimatum and then declared war. That was 2 and a bit years before Adolf dragged the US into the conflict.

        • It were Soviet agents and commies inside of the US government, who dragged US into the war. Read Diana West!

          • Pearl Harbor had no effect? And we did not declare war on Germany, we declared war on Japan. Then as a member of the Axis, Germany declared war on the US.

          • Pearl Harbor had no effect? And we did not declare war on Germany, we declared war on Japan. Then as a member of the Axis, Germany declared war on the US.

          • Certainly after Hitler broke the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact in the summer of ’41 it makes sense that they would want the US in the war against Germany. But it’s pretty common knowledge that Roosevelt wanted to get into the war but was held back by America First Committee and general anti-war sentiment.

            Not sure how much commie spies had to do with it. Nobody needed encouragement after Pearl Harbor.

          • “Not sure how much commie spies had to do with it. Nobody needed encouragement after Pearl Harbor.”

            Have you never wondered why the US government’s response to the Japanese Navy attacking the US was not to ship supplies to MacArthur who was soon fighting Japanese troops in the Philippines, but instead to send them to Stalin and ensure MacArthur would lose?

        • Because of public opinion, the U.S. was not able to enter the war until the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor.

          On the other hand, America did a great deal, both openly and covertly, to help Britain. The most obvious example was the Lend-Lease Act but active American assistance started a year earlier in September 1940. This put FDR at loggerheads with Stalin who at the time was an ally of the Germans.

      • Neville Chamberlain declares war.

        You can imagine what a bitter blow it is to me that all my long struggle to win peace has failed. YouTube

        The problem was not with appeasement per se. The problem was that Germany was preparing for war for years. The stimulus pumped up the German economy so much so that some German immigrants to North America were returning to Germany. link

        Britain, on the other hand was manifestly not ready for war. Chamberlain’s previous appeasement could be seen as an acknowledgement of that reality. link

        • This is the reason why the EU is a good idea. the EU may be cumbersome but 27 countries are at least talking to each other, and in the main not fighting each other!

          This is much better than the “my country is much better than yours” “my religion is the only ONE” “your ethnicity is subhuman”.

          “To be patriotic, hate all nations but your own; to be religious, all sects but your own; to be moral, all pretenses but your own.” — Lionel Strachey (1864-1927) British writer, translator, humorist

          • EUROPE a good idea!!!!???!!!

            yea right, ” 27 countries are at least talking to each other”.. really are…

            Such as when they shut down all Schengen borders in and out of Poland without any warning, then refused to help each other out over Covid.

            France want the UK’s Fish after Brexit, but subsidise their own farm industry outrageously!
            The French show a middle finger to the rest of Europe, especially when it comes to stopping striking workers blocking simple things like ports in and out of Calais etc…

            Hungary do whatever they like, just like most others beyond Germany.

            WTF?! What world do you live in?
            Are you amnesic or a lunatic?

            The EU is just about the best example of the “dialogue of the deaf and blind” in human history, and the Eastern European ‘enlargement countries have been 100% in the red ever since joining in 2004.

          • Hey are you the dishonest one that reported Trump told people to drink bleach?

            Shame on you.

          • ““To be patriotic, hate all nations but your own; to be religious, all sects but your own; to be moral, all pretenses but your own.” — Lionel Strachey (1864-1927) British writer, translator, humorist”

            If one puts their family first, does that mean that person hates every other family as a consequence? Of course it doesn’t. One can put their family, or their nation, or their religion first without having to hate anyone for anything. To imply that hate is the logical outcome, as Lionel does, is ridiculous.

        • Appeasement was Chamberlain’s preferred option until the day Parliament finally had enough and threw him out of office; he would have negotiated a peace with Hitler and the Nazis quite happily if he thought he could have got away with it even after September 1939.

          The old myth that appeasing Hitler in 1938 gave Britain a needed extra year is nonsense and Churchill knew better which is why he described Munich as a catastrophe. Chamberlain flew to Germany to forestall action to support the Czech’s against Hitler by France and Russia.

          Once the German’s occupied Czechoslovakia they got their hands on the arms and munitions of the best equipped army in central Europe and even more tragically the arms and munitions factories of the Czech state. A year later the German army had vastly increased it mechanised
          units and many of the tanks that rolled up the British and French armies in short order were Czech made.

          The only reality about appeasement was that it played into Hitler’s hands and ensured the war would last years longer and drag in the rest of the world to eradicate the murderous Nazi regime.

        • CB, luckily some, including the Forces and Winston and many in the Commonwealth, were not fooled….. Brett Keane, NZ

    • Alone, except for New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, Canada, India and a few others.

  3. Probably Moore deserves some credit for this. Politicians feeling restrained by not wanting to go against the world madness would be emboldened by the film. I think the kick in the head by one of the left’s own heroes did more damage than the sceptical side which GN Dealers have simply circumvented.

    • Isn’t Obrador politically a leftist? The wheels sure are breaking off of the fake energy gravy train. I highly doubt that it will ever happen here in the U.S. though. Democrats are too sold out/bought by corporate America who want fake energy, lots and lots of fake energy to virtue signal, claim they’re “green,” and get lots and lots of tax money back using production tax credits.

      • Obrador might be seeing it for what it is, and as Moore now does, a scam to enrich special interests at the expense of the poor.

    • Yep.Michael Moore did more damage than all of us put together,much to his own disgust.

  4. Re: Mexico “betting big”

    Lol — given the odds of “renewables” winning is at about 90:1 against, Mexico really isn’t betting big. It is just making a wise investment decision.

  5. Aren’t a lot of the unreliables generated not for Mexican consumers, but sold to Californian consumers at exorbitant prices to meet their quota? If that is the case, there is no benefit to Mexico from the plant.

  6. the ‘business interests’ who object only have to provide reliable back up turbine or coal fired power in order to guarantee reliability. The would then be allowed to connect. No problem!

  7. “In a world rushing to produce clean energy, Mexico has suddenly stood out like a sore thumb”

    They are not rich enough to worry about climate. My father used to say that as you get richer and richer you run out of things to worry about so you have to invent them.

    This explains the climate crisis. It is a rich man’s game found only in rich falang countries where they have run out of things to worry about and have set out to invent some.

    https://tambonthongchai.com/2020/03/15/noaas-ark/

    • + 1000! The idiots selling a 15th century solution for a modern world (windmills) are without fail hypocrites made wealthy anwho have the gift of free time ENTIRELY due to their availability of cheap abundant fossil fuels. Feel free to stop using them and their byproducts if you are a real believer And not a stunning hypocrite!

    • Not invented, probably just crony-capitalist, oil interests skewing the market.

      From the link above…
      Business lobby group the Consejo Coordinador Empresarial (CCE) described the move as arbitrary and a restriction on competition.

      “Without solid technical motivation or fully justified legal basis … Cenace has neglected its legal mandate to safeguard the efficiency of the national electric system and competition in the electricity market, which negatively impacts thousands of consumers in the commercial and industrial sector,” said the CCE in a statement.

      • Loy-doh.

        Wind and solar are proven to absolutely destroy the efficiency and reliability of the electricity grid system

        Didn’t you know that ?

        On top of that they are highly polluting and destructive of the environment in their manufacture, installation, during use and after use.

        They deliver absolutely NOTHING, they just TAKE..

        … which is why rabid leftists like you love them.

      • Loydo
        Did you miss this part of the report, a statement from the people actually running the system and responsible for its efficiency:

        -“The country’s National Energy Control Center, or Cenace, announced it would suspend grid connections of new solar and wind farms until further notice earlier this week. The motivation behind the decision was the intermittency of solar and wind power generation, which, according to the state-owned power market operator, could compromise Mexico’s energy security in difficult times.
        “The intermittent generation from wind and PV plants affects the reliability of the national electricity system, [impacting] the sufficiency, quality and continuity of power supply,” Cenace wrote in a document setting out the rules of the country’s electricity market during the Covid-19 lockdown.”-

        Similar worries are the subject of recent posts at Paul Holmewood’ s site and also expressed by some German authorities .
        I know that it is the current doctrine that engineering systems are best run by politicians, arts graduates and hollywood celebrities but on this occassion I think we should at least consider, as an hypothesis, outrageous though it may seem to you , that the professional engineers may be right .

    • Ha. You remind me of my time in Bangkok (mid-1990’s). Falang was a common moniker applied to my “mango” skin. That is also where I learned of Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs (to which you are obliquely referring). Many happy memories from then. Great people, Thais.

  8. Renewable, sustainable, available, and green, not Green. Although, Green can be considered in the basket of solutions.

  9. “In a world rushing to produce clean energy, ”
    ——————-
    Uhm….no, the world is not rushing to produce “clean” (aka environmentally damaging wind and solar) energy. The developing world is rushing to get what the developed world already has – reliable, inexpensive, dependable energy sources, mainly fossil fuels.

    • Modern coal fired power is one of the cleanest energies around.

      FAR cleaner on the environment that wind or solar, that is for sure.

      Plus they enhance the planet’s plant life.

  10. When a good portion of your population is worried about income and enough food to eat without excessive labor the specter of .5 F degree rise in average temperature over 50 years doesn’t mean squat. All you want to do is catch up to the next lifestyle. Kudos for Mexico realizing the scam for what it is

    • Thank you Markl.

      This is brilliant.
      “When a good portion of your population is worried about income and enough food to eat without excessive labor the specter of .5 F degree rise in average temperature over 50 years doesn’t mean squat.”

      • I hope that Markl notices YOUR comment saying essentially the same thing at 7:19pm this evening, Chaamjamal. Wealth is the key to true “green.” (one of the main points of Peter Huber’s excellent book, Hard Green), as in clean water and air and the like. And, as you and Markl pointed out, wealth also allows for “hobbies.” And the manufacturing of crises to solve.

        Also, lack of a true religion creates a vacuum which the godless fill with environmental “holiness” (making them vulnerable to “priests” of this cult who tell them lies about such things as human CO2 for their own cynical ends).

        Also, hope you saw several of us applauding you on the thread about recognizing Taiwan — your call to ban the UN was exactly right! 🙂

        Take care, over there in Thailand. I hope you get to see some of the wonderful elephants your country is helping. 🙂

  11. Countries very publicly stepping off the renewable bandwagon is what is needed.
    Which will be next

  12. “Stifle yourself [Edith] Emiliano & Jorge … [Archie] AMLO is in the power chair now. He doesn’t have to do what you Meatheads dream of.

  13. Abundant supplies of US natgas will supply Mexico for decades with cheap, available electricity with their buildout of Combined Cycle plants.
    Heck, the world’s cheapest LNG is on track to be exported out of Ensenada with Sempra’s Energie De Costa Azul.
    Even Puerto Libertad will be exporting ultra cheap US-sourced LNG. Last thing in the world Mexico needs is B.S. renewables.

  14. “The intermittent generation from wind and PV plants affects the reliability of the national electricity system, [impacting] the sufficiency, quality and continuity of power supply,” Cenace wrote

    Every single grid operator on the planet knows this. They keep quiet because the unholy alliance of crony researchers in bed with crony politicians in bed with crony capitalists has been able to destroy them career wise.

    But when faced with economic collapse, those same crony politicians only want to know one thing. What can I cut? Hopefully this is not the last grid operator that will grow a pair and speak truth to power… and have them listen.

    • The UK grid is very stable with current levels of wind power. For example of a failure in 2019-08-09 Problems arose when a CCGT generator tripped because of lightning strike and incorrect safety measures together with a large windfarm tripping near simultaneously. Overloading the fast response. The system was recovering without disconnections until another of the turbines of the CCGT station tripped incorrectly removing a further 200MW.

      Grids have to handle fast generation changes (when a large generator trips) and fast load variations (when football reaches half time and everyone puts a kettle on). Solar and wind generations are slow to change and to some extent predictable (clouds/wind free periods can be forecast many hours in advance) and this can be handled by spinning up CCGT generators.

      • You are absolutely right, it is very stable with current levels of wind power at 2%.
        We UK consumers would be ecstatic were those levels to continue for the foreseeable future.
        However, the dark forces which control the UK bill gouging have just arranged a deal whereby we pay a nuclear generator to close down half it’s generation to allow wind (when it does blow) unconstrained access to our pockets.

      • LOL, how gullible are you…

        They get that pseudo-stability by importing power from countries Europe that DO have stable electricity supply, and by paying huge prices for suppliers not to produce or to produce when necessary (which wind and solar cannot do.)

        The whole think exists on a knife edge.

        • roger May 9, 2020 at 3:28 am
          You are absolutely right, it is very stable with current levels of wind power at 2%
          —————-
          wind power is approx 20 to 40% of required power (currently supplying 41% of UK requirements (it was much less a couple of dates ago)
          ====================
          red250 May 9, 2020 at 3:33 am
          They get that pseudo-stability by importing power from countries Europe that DO have stable electricity supply,
          ————————
          The French fleet of nuclear generators have VER LITTLE load following abilities. If germany itally spain uk were not there to soak up any excess power the French grid would be totally unstable. check out the capabilities of the nuclear generators in france:
          https://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/france/
          Note that power produced is below peak required and even sometimes above.
          The amount of imported power is small in uk less than 4GW (10%)
          ———————
          red250
          and by paying huge prices for suppliers not to produce or to produce when necessary (which wind and solar cannot do.)
          The whole think exists on a knife edge.
          ——————-
          GH
          all grid systems exist on a knife edge – energy produced must exactly equal energy consumed else the system fails

          As I have stated elsewhere spinning reserve and fast start generators are required to back up losses when the largest generator fails. This happens frequently! and sometimes with no warning.

          These fast access generators are paid a premium for their services.

          If contracts are in place to provide x amount of energy but there is requirement for less than this ALL generators a paid for loss of contracted income. the difference with wind generators is I THINK the grid has to carry and use all generated power. Sometime the generated power cannot be carried by the cables and the generators get paid despite no energy being used.

      • These reports disagree with your assertions about the 2019-08-09 blackout. They also state that the order of events was different from what you say above. Fundamental weaknesses exist in the UK grid and these weaknesses are due to having to accommodate renewables.

        https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2019/08/20/national-grids-preliminary-report-on-blackout/
        https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2020/01/05/the-role-of-distributed-generation-in-the-uk-blackout-of-9-august-2019/

        • David Lilley May 9, 2020 at 4:54 am
          These reports disagree with your assertions about the 2019-08-09 blackout
          ————
          Apart from the authors conclusions your reports seem ok. I’m not sure where you think my comment was incorrect?

          From the national grid itself:
          https://www.nationalgrideso.com/document/151081/download
          16:52:33.728 Hornsea started deloading
          16:52:34 Little Barford Steam Turbine trips 244MW instantaneously. Source: RWE [981MW of cumulative infeed loss]
          16:52:58 Frequency drop is arrested at 49.1Hz due to the delivery of frequency response products
          16:53:18 Frequency recovers to 49.2Hz, due to the continued delivery of frequency response
          16:53:31 Little Barford GT1A tripped as per correct operation of the generators protection settings, caused by the loss of ST1C, 210MW instantaneously disconnected. [1691MW of cumulative infeed loss]
          16:53:49.398 Frequency breaches 48.8Hz trigger level resulting in LFDD. 931MW of demand is disconnected from the system by the DNOs.
          16:53:58 Little Barford GT1B tripped with 187MW generation lost instantaneously. This loss was subsumed by the LFDD reductions and the additional energy sources being instructed by ESO. [1878MW of cumulative infeed loss]

          Following the lighting strike Hornsea immediately de-loaded from 799MW to 62MW. Hornsea have confirmed the following: The equipment at Hornsea saw a system voltage fluctuation with unusual characteristics coincident with the lightning. The initial reaction from Hornsea’s systems was as expected in attempting to accommodate and address the system condition, but very shortly afterwards as the reaction expanded throughout the plant, the protective safety systems activated. Following an initial review, adjustments to the wind farm configuration, and fine tuning its controls for responding to abnormal events, the wind farm is now operating robustly to such millisecond events.

          Little Barford, owned by RWE, is a 740MW CCGT connected to the transmission system at Eaton Socon 400kV substation. Near instantaneous to the deloading at Hornsea, Little Barford Gas Power Station tripped with the immediate loss of the Steam Turbine (STC1) unit (244MW). RWE have confirmed the following: After approximately 1 minute the first gas turbine tripped due to excessive steam pressure in the steam bypass system. This trip occurred automatically and shut the gas turbine down. The second gas turbine was manually tripped by the by RWE operational staff in response to high steam pressures around 30 seconds later. In total this meant a total loss at Little Barford of 641MW. The causes provided by RWE for the initiation of the trip of Little Barford steam turbine (ST1C) was due to discrepancies on three independent safety critical speed measurement signals to the generator control system..

          • ghalfrunt:

            I realize that this will not persuade you — you are clearly a shill for the “renewables” “investors.” I write this for anyone who might be confused by you.

            Answer:

            The main issue with your comment is not whether you got your facts straight. The main point is that you are lauding the quick response of a life support system in the event of cardio or respiratory failure.

            “Spinningly Happy Times in ICU” — Episode 6,981, Scene 2

            ICU Nurse1: That was a close call! But, thanks to our wonderful government, the life support systems kicked in right away and the patient will live.

            {close-ups of smiling faces, tranquil music playing — interrupted by CRASH!}

            ICU Nurse2: Uh oh. That lightning crash just now took out the hospital’s electric supply. Only emergency lighting on, now.

            ICU N1: No problem. We have a back-up generator.

            ICU N2: BIG problem. It is powered by wind and solar. I’ll bet you $50.00 our patient dies before morning.

            ICU N1: Sorry. I don’t have $50 to lose.

          • Yeah, why would you want a boring base load nuke and gas turbines to handle peak load when you can have an inherently unstable system costing many multiples as much? And devastate the landscape at the same time. Come on people it’s a no-brainah! Innit?

          • ghalfrunt:
            2019-08-09 Problems arose when a CCGT generator tripped“.
            ghalfrunt again:
            16:52:33.728 Hornsea started deloading
            16:52:34 Little Barford Steam Turbine trips
            “.
            Hornsea is a wind farm, Little Barford is CCGT.
            It was the wind farm that triggered the sequence, not the CCGT.

          • Janice Moore May 9, 2020 at 10:21 am
            ghalfrunt:

            The main issue with your comment is not whether you got your facts straight. The main point is that you are lauding the quick response of a life support system in the event of cardio or respiratory failure.
            ——————————
            There has to be fast response systems in place for the times a thermal station trips without warning. This could loose the grid 500MW instantly most wind generators will cause no more than 7MW loss. So a wind energy convertor blowing up will have no significant effect on the spinning reserve (life support). If a power line connecting a generator or wind farm to the grid gets destroyed by a hurricane then up to 1.2GW could be lost without warning (this happened with Dungeness nuclear forcing the station to go onto diesel backup for cooling whilst the lines were reinstated). The spinning or fast acting reserve must be able to handle this.

            The national grid report I referenced shows that the grid was able to handle all the failures until the final disconnect of the CCGT generator.

            The reported incident showed two incorrect setting at two locations. neither the CCGT nor the Hornsea wind farm had correct parameters for disconnecting.

          • Mike Jonas May 10, 2020 at 12:28 am
            Hornsea is a wind farm, Little Barford is CCGT.
            It was the wind farm that triggered the sequence, not the CCGT.
            ——————————
            The wind farm tripped 0.23 seconds before the CCGT. 0.01 second of this would have been taken by the transit time of the disturbance to travel the grid (at a bit less than the speed of light) from strike to wind farm then back to barford!
            This should not have tripped the CCGT

            Hornsea is separated from little barford by 320km of cables with many close power stations which did not trip.
            It was the lightning strike that started the collapse. It was incorrect settings at hornsea and barford that caused them to trip.
            The final problem that prevented recovery was the final barford generator going off line after recovery had begun.

  15. OilPrice.com looks like another of those false flag entities that have popped up in the CC™ era e.g. John Cook’s ‘Skeptical Science’.
    The name suggests a website for prospective investors in oil and related stocks but appears to be another puff site for renewables.

  16. I understand the Mexican grid operator.
    Denmark is currently this morning utilizing 4% of their wind capacity and importing 61% of their energy.
    Danish power generation:
    Updates every 5 minutes.
    Date Time CEST
    Base power stations
    Off shore Wind
    On shore Wind
    Total Wind
    Solar power
    Import – Export
    Consumption
    2020-05-09
    0.76 GW
    0.10 GW
    0.17 GW
    0.27 GW
    0.22 GW
    1.97 GW
    3.22 GW
    08:15
    24%
    3%
    5%
    8%
    7%
    61%
    100%
    Source: https://api.energidataservice.dk/
    Base Power: 0.76/4.25GW (18%)
    Wind Power: 0.27/6.11GW (4%)
    https://carl-fh.com/climate

    UK is not doing better with 2% coming from wind.
    https://gridwatch.co.uk/

  17. Living in Mexico, I can say that I agree with AMLO on this, but that’s all. People need to be aware that he’s state-socialist, he’s presided over two years of negative economic growth, he’s favoured stupid, uneconomic projects, and he’s highly uneducated and erratic. His rejection of renewables can’t be relied on.

  18. Anybody hear of Maslow’s hierarchy? Until people have basic food, clean water, shelter and safety, they don’t give a fig for green dreams. The focus needs to be on increasing the average wealth in Mexico and 100 other countries.

    Guaranteed that green energy doesn’t help with this.

  19. I’d like to praise the Mexican President but just can’t. I lived for ten years in Mexico and a lot of their power is generated by coal and bunker fuel. That’s right, bunker fuel. Mazatlan for instance, has a large generating station just south of town but the plume of yellowish pollution hovers over the city most of the time. It is the single largest polluter and burns bunker fuel. In Manzanillo there are two very large generating plants and the plume from them can be seen 20 miles offshore. I sailed this and know it to be true. I think Mexico has a long way to go to clean up their act.

    • Good point, Mr. Nagy.

      My, “Go, Mexico!” is a mother encouraging her baby’s first steps. “Good job, sweetheart! You are walking!”

      Even one step in the right direction is a good thing.

  20. I’m beginning to like the President of Mexico more and more.

    He’s making good decisions. He is a central figure in stopping the rush of illegal immigrants into the United States, and Trump gave him credit for making a “difficult” deal which was aimed at getting the price of oil to start climbing, and now the President of Mexico shows he understands that windmills and solar are a deadend.

    Smart Guy! I dont know anything about this man other than just the decisions he has taken lately, and from those I say he is a smart guy making good decisions. Keep it up, Sir! We like it!

    • I had forgotten about all that, Mr. Abbott. Yes, indeed, looking very intelligent (and wise).

      Hope all is well with you. Well, as you can see, this site’s software is still not fixed. Still one giant pain. Just needed to say that to someone else who feels the same. Arrrrrgh!

      • I’m doing fine, Janice. Just trying to dodge the virus so I can stay that way.

        Trump just sent me a big check for $1200 and now I’m trying to figure out the best way to spend it. Decisions, decisions! Don’t worry, I don’t need any help, I can figure it out on my own. 🙂

  21. The cost of the epidemic will make many countries re-examine their costly and self-indulgent climate policies, renewables being one of them. Mexico has shown the way.

    Will there ever be another international climate conference? Huge cost, 20,000+ unnecessary flights….. they have got to stop.

    The epidemic will make countries see a lot of matters in a different way.

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