Senior WHO Advisor Urges a Climate Action Response to Covid-19

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

A senior executive advisor to the United Nations World Health Organization, which is supposed to be coordinating the global response to the Chinese Coronavirus Pandemic, has just urged nations to embrace climate action as part of their response to the outbreak.

How climate change and the coronavirus are linked

02 Apr 2020
Arthur Wyns Climate change advisor, World Health Organization

The coronavirus pandemic may lead to a deeper understanding of the ties that bind us on a global scale.

Well-resourced healthcare systems are essential to protect us from health security threats, including climate change.

The support to resuscitate the economy after the pandemic should promote health, equity, and environmental protection.

We live in an age in which intersecting crises are being lifted to a global scale, with unseen levels of inequality, environmental degradation and climate destabilization, as well as new surges in populism, conflict, economic uncertainty, and mounting public health threats. All are crises that are slowly tipping the balance, questioning our business-as-usual economic model of the past decades, and requiring us to rethink our next steps.

There are, to a certain degree, parallels that can be drawn between the current COVID-19 pandemic and some of the other contemporary crises our world is facing. All require a global-to-local response and long-term thinking; all need to be guided by science and need to protect the most vulnerable among us; and all require the political will to make fundamental changes when faced with existential risks.

In this sense, the 2020 coronavirus pandemic may lead to a deeper understanding of the ties that bind us all on a global scale and could help us get to grips with the largest public health threat of the century, the climate crisis.

At the World Health Organization (WHO), where I am part of the climate change team, we are seeing the devastating consequences of under-prepared health systems when they are faced with these increasingly regular shocks. Some of these health impacts have a clear climate change signature, such as the increasing frequency and strength of extreme weather eventsor the expanding range and spread of vector-borne diseases like malaria or dengue. For others, such as the COVID-19 pandemic, the connection with climate change is less clear cut.

When we eventually overcome the COVID-19 pandemic, we can hopefully hold on to that sense of shared humanity in order to rebuild our social and economic systems to make them better, more resilient, and compassionate. The financial and social support packages to maintain and eventually resuscitate the global economy post-pandemic should therefore promote health, equity, and environmental protection.

Arthur Wyns is a climate change advisor to the World Health Organization (WHO). He writes in a personal capacity, his views do not necessarily represent WHO or any of its member states.

Read more: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/04/climate-change-coronavirus-linked/

If there is one organization which is not fit for purpose, other than the Chinese Communist Party, that organization is the WHO.

As late as March, the WHO resisted calls to declare the Chinese Coronavirus a global pandemic. “Unless we’re convinced it’s uncontrollable, why (would) we call it a pandemic?” WHO director-general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said in early March. Even CNN criticised Tedros Ghebreyesus’s fawning praise for China’s incompetence, coverups and lies.

Not content with displaying an utter lack of leadership in our hour of need, the WHO’s climate change advisor is now seeking to exploit global fear of the deadly Chinese disease to promote his organization’s climate change agenda.

When the Chinese Coronavirus is finally contained there will be a reckoning. If the WHO had done their job instead of playing politics, many lives would have been spared. The world deserves better than this.

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Flight Level
April 2, 2020 12:05 pm

I can’t understand how a decaying economy is favorable to a performing health system given that one day or the other the Antonov 124 will stop delivering free crisis relief hospital goodies.

Jeffery P
April 2, 2020 12:09 pm

The Chinese Corona virus gets all the love and global warming gets nothing. What better way to get Climate Change back in the game than piggybacking a global pandemic? Link the 2 and money starts flowing your way again.

William Astley
April 2, 2020 12:18 pm

The UN and EU employees all live in bubble. Sometimes what they say is therefore silly, childish, irrelevant due to their ignorance.

The paradigm has changed. It is sad that we no longer have any money to waste and we have a dangerous world economic shutdown that is going to cause world-wide social unrest that is going to very difficult to address.

The problem is bigger than the EU countries do not have enough money for a green new deal.

The poorest EU countries will not have enough money to pay government workers, run hospitals and schools, maintain roads, and so on without massive borrowing until world tourism and their economies restart. Tax revenue no longer covers expenses. That is not sustainable.

This is not stimulus spending. This borrowing to keep the lights on.

The EU Green new deal is dead (CAGW is almost dead).

https://www.thegwpf.com/diplomats-signal-end-of-europes-green-deal-in-attempt-to-save-eu-economy/

“We simply don’t have the money to do everything,” an EU diplomat said, referring to the risk that the bloc’s Green Deal was at risk because of the economic impact of the virus….

The bloc had hoped to win support from all 27 member states for its 2050 goal at a June summit, although that meeting could now be overtaken by the coronavirus fallout.

“Maybe it will be less on Green Deal but more on trying to restart the economies,” a senior EU diplomat said.

“We cannot just continue with the plans and programmes we had so far. They were developed for a world without coronavirus.”

Neo
April 2, 2020 12:27 pm

NO MONEY for CHO

April 2, 2020 12:32 pm

The WHO contradicts itself. A WHO “fact sheet” I referred to in my essay here on “Our Common Future”, which was updated in 2018, the link is now https://www.who.int/en/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/ambient-(outdoor)-air-quality-and-health, promotes:

– prioritizing rapid urban transit, and
– making cities more green and compact, and thus energy efficient.

Both of these seem perfectly designed to spread virus infections, no? And shouldn’t any country that really wants to stop the spread of the coronavirus shut down all public transport into and out of cities?

Indeed, isn’t the car – and one person per car – the safest means of transport when there’s a major infection about?

Neil
Reply to  Neil Lock
April 2, 2020 3:05 pm

That’s an interesting point. I am currently driving into work, I note the usually packed trams, where people often can’t actually get on at peak times, have about 2-3 people on right now. So travelling on a the perfect breeding ground right now is probably almost risk free, however in my car, it’s positively risk free.

rah
Reply to  Neil
April 2, 2020 4:33 pm

Think so? Maybe on in it but getting in it may be another matter. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11288847/drivers-warned-disinfect-car-door-handles-man-licking-touching/

Dr Brendan Glass
April 2, 2020 12:33 pm

I trained as an ecologist (1972-75) under Amyan MacFadyen FRS founder of British ecology and then a Masters in Hydrobiology (U. Lond.). Ehrlich’s doomsayer philosophy was important at that time. I followed this by a training in dentistry and thus have a background in medical sciences. However, my training has given me a critical eye with regard to research.
For ten years I have been a follower of this site and at times the general tendency of many articles to be strongly rightwing has stuck in my craw. Furthermore, my son, winner of accolades twice in national student science competitions has Aspergers as I do myself. While Greta is an unfortunate who has a passion under her skin and in manipulated by her parents and the media it is absolutely no excuse for comments on this site to demean those with Aspergers. Many many top scientists and artists have Aspergers and it is the capacity for many to think laterally that pushes science and the arts forward.
I have endured this because reference to useful research is brought to our attention here. Covid-19 is hopefully a once in a lifetime event. How it is managed is certainly open to question. That the USA was laggardly in its response is without doubt, but they are not unique in that! The constant reference here to Chinese Coronavirus is appears to me an attempt to shift the blame for the lack of rapid response in the USA. For the President to suggest that it was a Covid-19 was a load of hype by the Democrats was shocking. Yet this site makes no mention of that and generally worships the ground Trump stands on and constantly castigates the Democrats. Both have their faults and if you want to be truly respected you need to be apolitical and sympathetic to those whose life is tough. No matter one’s beliefs my mother’s saying and philosophy “there but for the grace of God go I” needs more attention here. Otherwise many fair minded readers will be lost to this site.

Megs
Reply to  Dr Brendan Glass
April 2, 2020 10:42 pm

Dr Glass, there are so many highly educated people on this site, scientists with the knowledge and training and experience to refute much of the sloppy science that is being funded by governments on a global level. You must know what stops them from speaking in more open forums, they have been shut down. If you don’t adhear to the AGW rhetoric then you don’t get funding. If you insist on speaking out against the warmist theories you will likely lose your job. The people here contribute to this sight because they don’t otherwise have a voice. This site is an opportunity for scientists to exchange ideas.

I think it’s a little trite to even comment on the articles being mostly rightwing, that’s why this site was started! The views here largely oppose the rhetoric that is parroted by the UN, WHO, MSM and ignorant politicians. And yes, Greta too.

Scientists are people, some of them have lost the sense of who they are. They have studied, researched, written papers over many years gaining the respect of their peers only to have their careers destroyed. Many lost their jobs and were actually stripped of awards! I’m talking high profile respected scientists.

So yes Dr Glass, there are those who find it hard to watch a 16 year old school dropout make a mockery of them. Her autism is not relevant here, she cannot take the world stage and expect to hide behind a condition that you yourself say should not necessarily hold you back. If she needed protection then that was her parents role. They have exposed her to criticism, they have groomed her for this role, they have to take responsibility for picking up the pieces when it all falls apart. She has no real scientific knowledge, she is being used as a marketing tool and she doesn’t even know the damage she is doing.

My friend and neighbor has two autistic girls, beautiful girls. I have seen only some of the challenges that come with autism. But there are so many different challenges out there that will touch each an every person that visits this site, some more than others. Don’t assume that you are the only person to experience difficulties in your life. Don’t assume that compassion wouldn’t be lost on people here too.

April 2, 2020 12:36 pm

It goes beyond that.
Various types in canada have tried to reframe climate emergency as a health care issue
Then last week the governing liberals tried to sneak through some language in a covid response bill to give themselves unlimited powers to tax and spend until the end of 2021, no parliamentary oversight.

How large a step is it to go from unlimited power to officially branding climate change as a health issue so they can justify any amount spend on the green madness?

Paul Penrose
April 2, 2020 12:48 pm

While I’m no fan of the WHO (quite the opposite actually), I don’t think there’s much they could have done to slow down the spread of this disease. Have they done more harm than good over the entire course of their existence? Yes, but you can’t lay this particular pandemic at their feet.

Reply to  Paul Penrose
April 2, 2020 1:38 pm

They did the bidding of the chinese government and helped prevent the facts from getting to us, the head of WHO got there by chinese backing, a marxist idiot from Ethiopia who wanted to make Mugabe a WHO good will ambassador.
And that was one of his better ideas

Joey
April 2, 2020 12:50 pm

The virus is a threat. Climate change isn’t. Strong message to follow.

markl
April 2, 2020 12:55 pm

Enter the WHO joining the CC cabal along with the Catholic Church, the UN, the World Bank, and multiple countries trying to virtue signal their way out of economic suicide by siding with the Globalists. Then along came #19 and stole all their thunder.

KT66
April 2, 2020 1:20 pm

Conflation has been the primary play in the green playbook for awhile now. They equate co2 emissions with real pollution. They display color filtered photos of steam coming from cooling towers to score points with an ignorant public. Labeling co2 as a pollutant was a home run in the legal games as well as an effective propaganda tool. They immediately accuse people of being anti-clean water and clean air if they oppose ridiculous climate action policies. They show photos of smoggy urban air on the news as they push global warming propaganda as a legitimate news story. We should not be surprised as they shamelessly and dishonestly attempt to conflate an awful pandemic with their alleged climate crisis.

Many in their leadership know that there’s no correlation with real pollution problems and public health and co2, but they don’t care. Probably more don’t know the difference.

April 2, 2020 1:26 pm

If there is one organization which is not fit for purpose,…, that organization is the WHO.
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you got to be kidding. You do realise that April 1st was a day ago.
this is bad?
“– prioritizing rapid urban transit, and
– making cities more green and compact, and thus energy efficient.”
you believe this?!
“Given that the WHO lately appears to be heavily influenced by China, and that China would benefit by the western world destroying their own economies by adopting policies to supposedly mitigate climate change, it does not surprise me that a WHO representative would say this.”
etc.

At least with President Trump you only get the truth:
Feb. 7 (tweet): ”… as the weather starts to warm & the virus hopefully becomes weaker, and then gone.”

Feb. 10: “I think the virus is going to be — it’s going to be fine.”

Feb. 14: “We have a very small number of people in the country, right now, with it. It’s like around 12. Many of them are getting better. Some are fully recovered already. So we’re in very good shape.”

Feb. 19: “I think it’s going to work out fine. I think when we get into April, in the warmer weather, that has a very negative effect on that and that type of a virus. So let’s see what happens, but I think it’s going to work out fine.”

Feb. 24 (tweet): “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. … Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”

Feb. 25: “You may ask about the coronavirus, which is very well under control in our country. We have very few people with it, and the people that have it are … getting better. They’re all getting better. … As far as what we’re doing with the new virus, I think that we’re doing a great job.”

Feb. 25: “Now they have it, they have studied it, they know very much, in fact, we’re very close to a vaccine,”

Feb. 26: “Because of all we’ve done, the risk to the American people remains very low. … When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero. That’s a pretty good job we’ve done.”

Feb 26: “We’re going down, not up. We’re going very substantially down, not up.” He continued, “As they get better, we take them off the list, so that we’re going to be pretty soon at only five people. And we could be at just one or two people over the next short period of time.”

feb 27: “It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear. And from our shores, we — you know, it could get worse before it gets better. It could maybe go away. We’ll see what happens. Nobody really knows.”

Feb. 28: “I think it’s really going well. … We’re prepared for the worst, but we think we’re going to be very fortunate.”

Feb. 28: “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”

Feb. 28: “This is their new hoax.”

March 2: “We had a great meeting today with a lot of the great companies, and they’re going to have vaccines, I think, relatively soon,” he said.

March 4: “Some people will have this at a very light level and won’t even go to a doctor or hospital, and they’ll get better. There are many people like that.”

March 4: Now, this is just my hunch, but based on a lot of conversations with a lot of people that do this, because a lot of people will have this and it is very mild… So if, you know, we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better, just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work, some of them go to work, but they get better and then, when you do have a death like you had in the state of Washington, like you had one in California, I believe you had one in New York, you know, all of a sudden it seems like 3 or 4 percent, which is a very high number, as opposed to a fraction of 1 percent.

March 6: “Anybody that needs a test can have a test.”

March 9 (tweet): “So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!”

March 10: “And it hit the world. And we’re prepared, and we’re doing a great job with it. And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.”

March 11: “I think we’re going to get through it very well.”

March 12: “It’s going to go away. … The United States, because of what I did and what the administration did with China, we have 32 deaths at this point … when you look at the kind of numbers that you’re seeing coming out of other countries, it’s pretty amazing when you think of it.”

March 13: “I want to thank Google. Google is helping to develop a website. It’s going to be very quickly done, unlike websites of the past, to determine whether a test is warranted and to facilitate testing at a nearby convenient location.”

March 15: “This is a very contagious virus. It’s incredible. But it’s something that we have tremendous control over.”

march 17: “I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic”

March 23: ‘…On Monday, nearly 12.2 million people watched Mr. Trump’s briefing on CNN, Fox News and MSNBC, according to Nielsen — ‘Monday Night Football’ numbers. Millions more are watching on ABC, CBS, NBC and online streaming sites, and the audience is expanding. On Monday, Fox News…’ ‘…alone attracted 6.2 million viewers for the president’s briefing — an astounding number for a 6 p.m. cable broadcast, more akin to the viewership for a popular prime-time sitcom..’

march 24: “We’re going to be opening relatively soon… I would love to have the country opened up and just raring to go by Easter.” He added in a subsequent interview: “Easter is a very special day for me… and you’ll have packed churches all over our country.”

March 29: “How do you go from 10 to 20 to 30,000, to 300,000 — even though this is different. Something is going on. And you ought to look into it as reporters. Where are the masks going?”

march 30: “If you look at those individual statements, they’re all true,” Trump responded. “Stay calm, it will go away. You know it — you know it is going away, and it will go away, and we’re going to have a great victory.”

William Astley
Reply to  ghalfrunt
April 2, 2020 3:08 pm

Your post is so very filtered of thought. Please do come back and defend your point.

Are you saying we should have shutdown the country in February? The entire country?

What is the impact of a complete country shutdown? We are now facing a world-wide depression.

The US and Trump was between a rock and a hard place.

The UK also took the same approach as the US in delaying country wide isolation.

I would assume Trump has trying to avoid panic in the US and he had an understanding of the economic impact shutting our country down would cause.

China was the source of the virus. Trump initiated a travel ban from China and declared a public health emergency Jan. 31, 2020.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/31/21117403/trump-coronavirus-ban-travel-non-us-citizens-china

Trump bans foreign nationals who have traveled to China from entering the US
There’s a mandatory quarantine, too

Reply to  William Astley
April 2, 2020 4:12 pm

William Astley April 2, 2020 at 3:08 pm
Your post is so very filtered of thought. Please do come back and defend your point
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not being a health or financial expert I could not say when the country should be shut down.

you would have to play off allowable deaths versus lost GDP.
how do you value lives? how many would die if nothing was done?
How do you know how many will die because of inadequate financial support for the impoverished.

So trump knew about the virus at least by the end of January. SARS-CoV-2 was first detected in the U.S. on Jan. 20. Why did trump not start ramping up tests. ppe , med equipment instead of playing down the seriousness. Why did he then start blaming china for not releasing the info when “On 31 December 2019, the World Health Organization (WHO) was informed of several cases of viral pneumonia of unknown cause detected in Wuhan City, China.”
It is true that it was 11th march before the who called it a pandemic, but it was obviously causing world wide problems. Trump was still saying
March 11: “I think we’re going to get through it very well.”
March 12: “It’s going to go away. … The United States, because of what I did and what the administration did with China, we have 32 deaths at this point … when you look at the kind of numbers that you’re seeing coming out of other countries, it’s pretty amazing when you think of it.”
Why dis he try to imply that ppe was being stolen by nurses/doctors?
March 29: “How do you go from 10 to 20 to 30,000, to 300,000 — even though this is different. Something is going on. And you ought to look into it as reporters. Where are the masks going?”

did he not realise that ppe should be changed between patients (1 patient 4 visits per day per nurse = 4 ppe kits) – if not, why not?

Where are his preparations.
How do you control panic when 100s of thousands die unless you start hiding the deaths.

Blame who ever you like but inaction leads to deaths.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  ghalfrunt
April 2, 2020 7:06 pm

I believe the timeline goes something like this:

Dec. 1, 2019, the Chinese military in Hubei province goes on lockdown. This is probably when the Chinese first figured out they had a virus problem.

Jan. 14, 2020, The World Health Organization and the Chinese say on Jan. 14, 2020, that there is no evidence of human-to-human transmission of the Wuhan virus.

Jan. 21, 2020, the first case of Wuhan virus is discovered in the U.S.

Jan. 23, 2020, President Trump forms up the public/private task force to fight the Wuhan virus.

Jan. 31, 2020, President Trump institutes a travel ban on air traffic from China, with a ban on travel from Europe soon thereafter.

Feb. 2, 2020, Nancy Pelosi tells everyone to go to Chinatown, and New York City officials, including Governor Cuomo, tell New Yorkers not to worry about the Wuhan virus.

Trump is right on top of things with regard to the Wuhan virus, and the Democrats are impeaching and demagogueing while Rome burns.

William Astley
Reply to  ghalfrunt
April 2, 2020 9:17 pm

Stop talking politics for a minute and summarize what we know.

Let’s really talk about important stuff.

Some good news.

The US had developed an antibody to SARS using the same synthetic engineering techniques that you stool from the US. The US had completed the trials with the new antibody and were planning to start human trials.

The US using the AI system that produced the SARS antibody, a Covid-19 antibody is being produced. Based on the success on the SARS virus and that it is an AI there will be an antibody developed for Covid-19 for mass production and release by September.

The US military is taking charge. This virus almost feels like an attack.

Odd that the virus has released while the US has being internally attacked by a strange mindless group. They have no plan to help. They just have a single goal.

Odd that the Chinese, in official channels would accuse the US of developing and release a virus.

The US is a real democracy. We are on the side of good.

Oh, perhaps you are another one of them Chinese puppet propaganda writers.

What side are you on? You obviously have an agenda and are a one subject kind of guy/girl.

William Astley
Reply to  ghalfrunt
April 2, 2020 9:30 pm

Trump is on the side of US citizens. He is demonstrating that every day. For example see below. Immediate action.

The virus event is very, very much like a time of war.

What side are you on?

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/04/02/donald-trump-invokes-the-defense-production-act-against-3m-for-medical-masks/

Billionaire Mark Cuban also exposed 3M distributors for making as much money as possible with the masks and even spoke to the White House about the “price gouging” he said was taking place.

The president authorized Secretary of Homeland Security Chad Wolf for FEMA “to acquire, from any appropriate subsidiary or affiliate of 3M Company, the number of N-95 respirators that the Administrator determines to be appropriate.”

MarkW
Reply to  ghalfrunt
April 2, 2020 7:51 pm

What is it about socialists and their tendency to repeat the same disproven arguments over and over again?

Everything you list was true at the time spoken. When facts change, Trump changes his position. Unfortunately socialists aren’t permitted to do anything except repeat the party line over and over again.

Rob_Dawg
April 2, 2020 1:56 pm

> Some of these health impacts have a clear climate change signature, such as the increasing frequency and strength of extreme weather eventsor the expanding range and spread of vector-borne diseases like malaria or dengue.

Repeating a lie does not make it a truth.

chris
April 2, 2020 2:04 pm

I’m on the centrist – ok, liberal … ok, ultra-liberal – end of people who comment on this blog, but I agree with this.
I followed the Corona thing from the beginning because I did predictive modeling of pandemic outbreaks (SARS, etc.) and terrorist acquisition of WMD for many years before I retired. I noticed immediately that the head of the WHO repeatedly down-played China’s denials, slow-walking, and tardy response. I looked him up and noted that he’s Ethiopian and that Ethiopia is in hock up to its eyeballs to China.
Follow the money.

Reply to  chris
April 2, 2020 4:22 pm

He is basically a Chinese appointee
One of the first things he tried to do was appoint Robert mugabe as a goodwill ambassador.

Yes really, that’s the current head of WHO

Tom Abbott
Reply to  chris
April 2, 2020 7:24 pm

“I noticed immediately that the head of the WHO repeatedly down-played China’s denials, slow-walking, and tardy response. I looked him up and noted that he’s Ethiopian and that Ethiopia is in hock up to its eyeballs to China.
Follow the money.”

The WHO head was also invovled in trying to hide cholera epdemics that were taking place in his home country of Ethiopia.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/13/health/candidate-who-director-general-ethiopia-cholera-outbreaks.html

Now here he is covering up the Wuhan virus epidemic.

We really shouldn’t be taking advice from this man.

His and the Chinese leadership’s downplaying of the infectiousness of the Wuhan virus caused the whole world to miscalculate the seriousness of the virus until it was too late to keep it from becoming a pandemic.

If the real infection rate had been told to the world, people would have paid attention and taken earlier actions to stem the tide, like travel bans which some of the hardest-hit nations didn’t implement until late in the game, one reason being Chinese leaders were putting pressure on every nation, incuding the U.S., to not implement travel bans. Most nations went along with the Chinese. The U.S. did not.

The world could have had a heads-up on the Wuhan virus clear back in December if the Chinese leadership had been honest about the situation. The decision to hide the truth will have caused the unnecessary deaths of countless innocent people. It’s Mass Murder.

chris
April 2, 2020 2:05 pm

Opps. to be clear, I do NOT support WHO connecting Corona to climate change. That is not credible and certainly aimed to let China off the hook.

sorry for not being clear.

April 2, 2020 2:06 pm

Things to do today:
1. De-fund UN.
2. De-fund WHO.
3. Remind world bank to develop underdeveloped countries not enforce poverty.
4. Lock most media in kiddy corral at the local mall.
5. Lose key to kiddy corral at the local mall.
6. Make extinction Rebellion Extinct
7. Remind schools and universities what science and math are and how to do them.
8. De-fund schools and universities that don’t attend to point 7.
9. Create a fossil-fuel-free, “carbon neutral”, clean, green, sustainable padded room where all the radical environmentalists can go to meet. Lock the door from the outside.

Reply to  Andy Pattullo
April 2, 2020 4:25 pm

One of the few things China is doing right, building coal fired power plants all through the 3rd world
Locking countries into debt traps but that’s the price for reliable electricity, since the west seems bent on keeping them in endless poverty

F1nn
Reply to  Pat from kerbob
April 3, 2020 3:17 am

China is making little-Chinas everywhere. China need cheap subcontractors to make cheap stuff. Africa need cheap stable energy and work. It´s a winwin which west couldn´t have because redgreens didn´t like the idea. China do not listen idiots on it´s road to global markets. And when it´s done west wakes up as a loser.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  F1nn
April 3, 2020 7:01 am

“China do not listen to idiots on it´s road to global markets. And when it´s done west wakes up as a loser.”

That’s definitely a possibility, especially if the U.S. elects a delusional Democrat in the next decade or two. Democrats are pawn of the Chinese government, even Democrat presidents, and vice presidents. Right, Joe?

Otoh, the Chinese Wuhan virus attack on the world may cause nations to sue for damages which might include confiscating Chinese property in their countries, so those Chinese powerplants might not be Chinese for much longer..

I think a U.S. Senator is going to introduce a bill in Congress to allow U.S. citizens to sue the Chinese government directly for damages from the Wuhan virus. The U.S. might not be the only nation to implement such a law.

The Chinese leadership definitely haven’t heard the last of this, what can only be described as a deliberate attack on the rest of the world with the Wuhan virus.

What else can you call it but deliberate, when the Chinese leadership knew how infectious this virus was and yet hid that fact from the world and resisted against restricting the travel of infected Chinese to all parts of the world. It may not have been an act of war per se. The Chinese leadership just might have decided to share their misery with the world, after seeing what was happening to themselves. And from recent reports, China may not have suppressed the virus yet. So more misery to come for China from the virus and financially from the people they attacked with the virus.

Phill
Reply to  Andy Pattullo
April 3, 2020 6:06 am

Marvellous!

Shytot
April 2, 2020 2:19 pm

The climate scam and the Corona panicdemic are closely connected by poor data, bad models and totally deluded (or blinkered) experts.

It’s the same plot just a different cast of control freaks!

RockyRoad
Reply to  Shytot
April 2, 2020 4:09 pm

…and pushed by the same bunch of clowns!

But look how close they came to the location of origin– the Hunan virus and the WHO-UN response!

Mike
April 2, 2020 4:45 pm

Ask yourself what did the WHO or for that matter the UN do for anyone apart from stick their hand in your pocket. It’s time to disband the whole Circus, let the clowns roam free like the global village diots that they are.

I first came across a WHO bureaucrat in the early 70’s in Zambia, talk about a useless bump on a log. An arrogant a’hole who had failed to gain meaningful employment with some third rate degree in “social science” now there’s an aphorism if there ever was one .

The current director of the WHO should be defending his actions and inactions in court, well I can still dream.

April 2, 2020 5:35 pm

Yes, we should get better prepared for the advancing climate optimum.

One thing that Farmers/producers can do is to invest in more storage/bin capacity to be better prepared for the continued massive increase in crop yields/production of their crops.

The last 40 years have featured the best weather for life and growing crops in the last 1,000 years, thanks to the slight, mostly beneficial warming and the massively beneficial increase of CO2.

Soybean yields have doubled(completely ignoring the model predictions).

https://www.nass.usda.gov/Charts_and_Maps/Field_Crops/soyyld.php

Corn yields have soared higher too. Thanks in part to the improving/beneficial climate also but mostly from the use of natural gas to manufacture nitrogen fertilizer.

“Another secret about fossil fuels: Haber Bosch process-fertilizers feeding the planet using natural gas-doubling food production/crop yields. September 2019”

https://www.marketforum.com/forum/topic/39215/

The world supply of cereal crops continues to remain very high thanks to robust/increasing production:
http://www.fao.org/worldfoodsituation/csdb/en/

The WHO is part of the United Nations. But this is what the UN started telling us about this topic over 3 decades ago:

“U.N. Predicts Disaster if Global Warming Not Checked
PETER JAMES SPIELMANNJune 29, 1989”

https://apnews.com/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0

“Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of ″eco- refugees,′ ′ threatening political chaos, said Noel Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program, or UNEP.”
Coastal regions will be inundated; one-sixth of Bangladesh could be flooded, displacing a fourth of its 90 million people. A fifth of Egypt’s arable land in the Nile Delta would be flooded, cutting off its food supply, according to a joint UNEP and U.S. Environmental Protection Agency study.”

“Shifting climate patterns would bring back 1930s Dust Bowl conditions to Canadian and U.S. wheatlands”

They were not just wrong with almost every single prediction(by a wide margin) but on the climate for food production, how do you get away with predicting widespread crop failures/disasters and instead, crop yields keep soaring to new records and even doubling during that same time frame……………and somehow are allowed to keep having a significant voice saying the same absurd things, proven wrong over and over by empirical data/facts as evidenced with the data links above.?

The reason? Facts and authentic science just don’t matter. What matters is what you can get most people to believe.

A powerful method to accomplish this has been to give people a reason to be really afraid of something bad happening(fake climate crisis). Then, you present/pretend to be an elite, altruistically motivated expert on the matter that has THE solution to save the planet for our children and all of life.

They understand how we can control the climate. All that is needed is to trust them and to do exactly what they tell people that needs to be done……but don’t fact check them or look at their track record because the science is settled and the debate is over.
(only deniers think otherwise). Just BELIEVE.

A climate optimum is NOT a problem. The planet does NOT need saving………..we rescued it from CO2 starvation.

PaulH
April 2, 2020 6:05 pm

Let’s call it what it is, the Worthless Health Organization.

max
April 2, 2020 6:16 pm

WHO, like CDC, seem to be a little too worried about things like racism and climate change, and not enough in disease, the thing they’re (by name) supposed to be doing. This lack of focus meant nobody really had a plan, and they keep blabbing to help hide the fact from the rest of us, who are actually doing our jobs. We should pull their funds, and find groups that can actually get the job done.

Quilter52
April 2, 2020 7:00 pm

We should hurry up and warm the globe. Coronaviruses are generally much worse in winter.

Eliza
April 2, 2020 10:28 pm

Millions will die from human stupidity refer to Einstein. Tens of Thousands of old sick people will die of this common cold virus as they do every day. The data says it all every DAY 170000 die mainly from respiratory ailments and heart problems. Everybody will get this virus and it will affect everybody just like the common flu except in the Tropics and subtropics. You cant stop it. The world is self immolating except for Sweden where 340 people have died over 4 months look up daily NORMAL death statistics for Sweden. BTW Trump was WRONG Sweden has NOT reverted to a lockdown

bailintheboat
April 2, 2020 11:33 pm

A warm hot summer is exactly what we need. The virus hates the heat.

Slyrik
April 3, 2020 12:29 am

Further to thw WHO spreading the PANIC (which to me is worse than the desies) they reported recently and emotively that there are ONE MILLION CASES WORLDWIDE… shock horror… but hold on… that’s .. let me see….0.013% of the world population… that’s 13 people per 100,000….what people usually lack in these emotive times is perspective