Senior WHO Advisor Urges a Climate Action Response to Covid-19

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

A senior executive advisor to the United Nations World Health Organization, which is supposed to be coordinating the global response to the Chinese Coronavirus Pandemic, has just urged nations to embrace climate action as part of their response to the outbreak.

How climate change and the coronavirus are linked

02 Apr 2020
Arthur Wyns Climate change advisor, World Health Organization

The coronavirus pandemic may lead to a deeper understanding of the ties that bind us on a global scale.

Well-resourced healthcare systems are essential to protect us from health security threats, including climate change.

The support to resuscitate the economy after the pandemic should promote health, equity, and environmental protection.

We live in an age in which intersecting crises are being lifted to a global scale, with unseen levels of inequality, environmental degradation and climate destabilization, as well as new surges in populism, conflict, economic uncertainty, and mounting public health threats. All are crises that are slowly tipping the balance, questioning our business-as-usual economic model of the past decades, and requiring us to rethink our next steps.

There are, to a certain degree, parallels that can be drawn between the current COVID-19 pandemic and some of the other contemporary crises our world is facing. All require a global-to-local response and long-term thinking; all need to be guided by science and need to protect the most vulnerable among us; and all require the political will to make fundamental changes when faced with existential risks.

In this sense, the 2020 coronavirus pandemic may lead to a deeper understanding of the ties that bind us all on a global scale and could help us get to grips with the largest public health threat of the century, the climate crisis.

At the World Health Organization (WHO), where I am part of the climate change team, we are seeing the devastating consequences of under-prepared health systems when they are faced with these increasingly regular shocks. Some of these health impacts have a clear climate change signature, such as the increasing frequency and strength of extreme weather eventsor the expanding range and spread of vector-borne diseases like malaria or dengue. For others, such as the COVID-19 pandemic, the connection with climate change is less clear cut.

When we eventually overcome the COVID-19 pandemic, we can hopefully hold on to that sense of shared humanity in order to rebuild our social and economic systems to make them better, more resilient, and compassionate. The financial and social support packages to maintain and eventually resuscitate the global economy post-pandemic should therefore promote health, equity, and environmental protection.

Arthur Wyns is a climate change advisor to the World Health Organization (WHO). He writes in a personal capacity, his views do not necessarily represent WHO or any of its member states.

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If there is one organization which is not fit for purpose, other than the Chinese Communist Party, that organization is the WHO.

As late as March, the WHO resisted calls to declare the Chinese Coronavirus a global pandemic. “Unless we’re convinced it’s uncontrollable, why (would) we call it a pandemic?” WHO director-general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said in early March. Even CNN criticised Tedros Ghebreyesus’s fawning praise for China’s incompetence, coverups and lies.

Not content with displaying an utter lack of leadership in our hour of need, the WHO’s climate change advisor is now seeking to exploit global fear of the deadly Chinese disease to promote his organization’s climate change agenda.

When the Chinese Coronavirus is finally contained there will be a reckoning. If the WHO had done their job instead of playing politics, many lives would have been spared. The world deserves better than this.

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April 2, 2020 10:15 am

Unfortunately, all the panic with the Wuhan Coronavirus and COVID-19 will morph into the climate change meme after the virus goes away as we build herd immunity. However, now that the socialist Marxists have gotten a taste of absolute power to govern by decree through emergency powers, all they have to do is enact the same laws that some have already made in their Climate Emergency declarations. Whether they win out or not will depend much on whether America re-elects President Trump and the Republicans with 4 more years of some relief from these globalists, or vote for whomever is still alive in the Democrat Party. If it is a Democrat president, then I think the jig is up and we can say hello a lot faster to the notion of one world government and open borders governed more by the UN and WHO bodies. There is a lot riding on the next 6-7 months and the November USA election.

Reply to  Earthling2
April 2, 2020 11:26 am

Short-term immunity, perhaps. It will be back, again, and again, and again. The social contagion, however, is forced by its novelty and opportunity. That said, probably Gaia’s Choice.

Reply to  n.n
April 2, 2020 11:52 am

SARS 1 is gone…let’s hope that SARS 2 follows the same trajectory as SARS 1. They are the from the same family type of coronavirus as I understand it, but cause different diseases. I am not making any claim. Having said that, 1/3 of all common colds are a coronavirus, and have had so many mutations, we haven’t even been able to create a vaccine for the common cold. One of things that stuck in my mind from the original Star Trek show was when Bones tells Captain Kirk and Spock that here it is the 24th century already, and we still haven’t found a cure for the common cold. Let’s hope this SARS-CoV-2 virus just goes extinct quickly.

Reply to  Earthling2
April 2, 2020 1:28 pm

SARS 1 is undetected and no longer a significant risk. Extinct? Maybe.

Carbon Bigfoot
Reply to  n.n
April 2, 2020 12:00 pm

Must stand for Normal Nutcase

Reply to  Carbon Bigfoot
April 2, 2020 1:23 pm

With what do you disagree?

Reply to  n.n
April 2, 2020 12:10 pm

On what basis do you make that claim? Natural immunity is like love: it’s forever. Vaccine immunity is what doesn’t last.

Reply to  icisil
April 2, 2020 1:22 pm

I will agree with you. We should distinguish between the disease, and a class and variants of viruses. Also, “herd immunity” that varies with demographic. I should be more specific.

Reply to  n.n
April 2, 2020 5:57 pm

April 2, 2020 at 1:22 pm

Also, “herd immunity” that varies with demographic.
Which for COVID19 seem to be set as per Global….


Reply to  Eric Worrall
April 2, 2020 4:18 pm

Those stories are coming out of China. I don’t believe anything coming from there. Huge clusterphuck.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
April 2, 2020 6:26 pm

Eric Worrall
April 2, 2020 at 2:08 pm

Covid-19 is a Coronavirus, like the common cold, so there is no long term immunity.
Yes it seems Covid-19 is like common cold,
but where do you get the idea that the immunity to common cold is not long term.
Besides, once infected, you are and stand infected for life.

immunity, herd immunity in natural term is not the same as artificial one.
A “natural jab” to a few is enough to achieve a fast wide spread one in nature.
A vaccine if good it gives you immunity, if you do not already have it,
and that is for life,
but the block to infection towards the said virus wains, as the “infection” from the vaccine’s antigen wares off, and not for life.

What do you think will happen to you if you had a good number of the possible cold flu
diseases “striking” you at once?… or maybe just a few that room around?
(if immunity and herd immunity was not for life)


Reply to  Eric Worrall
April 2, 2020 7:40 pm

False negatives from the tests are much more likely than re-infection.
The idea that the immune system could forget how to fight this virus in a matter of weeks just makes no sense.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
April 2, 2020 9:04 pm

Eric Worrall
April 2, 2020 at 7:58 pm

The immune system upgrades far much faster and efficiently to viral mutations than supposedly the vaccine upgrades…
where you may just have got the idea, (the wrong one)
that the immune system can not keep up efficiently with viral mutations.

The common cold flu generally returns always in winter season, the cold one,
(aka “cold flu”),
and that has nothing to do with the immune response or it’s ability to upgrade.
It is simply a matter of the cold increasing wear and tear in the lungs which leads to triggering the incubation from the state of dormancy and hibernation of the given virus.
More cold flu viruses there, in the herd, aka the individuals too,
more steady the seasonal periodicity of cold flu.

COVID-19 is bound to the same rules…prone to such periodicity.
Bound by such rules to enter dormancy and hibernation by the force of the “plural” in the cold flu seasonal infection condition…
the class and the environment-condition that it belongs.

Hopefully this helps a little. 🙂


old white guy
Reply to  Eric Worrall
April 3, 2020 7:38 am

We will not shut it down without a natural immunity response from human beings. Like everything else that we have that can “take” us from this world this virus is just one more.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
April 3, 2020 7:52 am

The reports that I’ve been reading say that COVID19 doesn’t mutate rapidly.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
April 3, 2020 10:05 am

Eric, you may be correct about there being no long term immunity to the Coronavirus, but perhaps what we mean is that there could be immunity to the COVID-19 disease once people recover from having had the SARS-CoV-2 virus. In other words, perhaps many people will be reinfected with the virus, but it won’t cause the COVID-19 disease again. Just like the original SARS CoV virus caused the Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) disease, which seems to have just disappeared from the face of the good Earth. Of course, this is just my speculation at this point, because we don’t yet understand how everything works. Just my 2 cents worth…

Gary Pearse
Reply to  n.n
April 2, 2020 3:59 pm

China’s ‘wet’ food markets will continue to generate new cross-over diseases from animals unless the gov orders a change in these ‘farmers’ raising the menagerie of small animals from across the animal kingdom in their homes for food stalls.

Almost all the exotic x-over viruses that have infected the world are from China. Perhaps embarrassment with this, given their emergence into the modern world will move them to act. I know the UN WHO sycophant admirers of this country won’t raise the matter.

Apparently, Vietnam passed laws a number of years ago forcing these family enterprises to have separate buildings from their dwellings for these animals because of the human health issues.

Reply to  Gary Pearse
April 3, 2020 9:33 am

Apparently many of the ancient plagues and diseases also originated in China and followed the old southern Silk Road road from Wuhan to Persia to Constantinople/Rome and Europe and to other points beyond. And the more northern routes as well. So there is appears to be nothing new under the Sun, except now it spreads at the speed of a modern day jet liner to the 4 corners of the world.

The best way to change China’s behaviour in the near to long term future is economically. If we would have demanded major changes to some of their practices before the World Trade Organization allowed them to join in 2001, much of this virus carnage could have been prevented. It isn’t too late to reign in China by limiting trade with them to a mercantile exchange of goods and raw resources. And to give other nations a choice…either join the Free World, or join China. If the nations that join China over the West, then they also don’t get preferential trade and restricted Visa access to travel the world. But it should be very clear that a paradigm shift is happening, and it isn’t going to be in China’s favour if they don’t change a lot of their evil ways. Halting Chinese travel would be first place to start on them injecting both their literal virus’ and their infectious totalitarian predatory economic fascism they implement in many places around the world.

D Cage
Reply to  Earthling2
April 3, 2020 10:27 am

Halting manufacture there is the only step that would make one jot of difference. The west no longer has the skill st to do that as for a generation we have worshipped the Greater Dumbbirds, ball hitters and kickers and boob hangers over engineers especially manufacturing ones.

Reply to  Earthling2
April 3, 2020 1:59 pm

Why is there a virology lab only 300 yards from the wet market in Wuhan?
Since when it is a good idea to eat bat soup? You know bats, the carriers of rabies?

Reply to  Gary Pearse
April 3, 2020 7:12 pm

China’s ‘wet’ food markets will continue to generate new cross-over diseases from animals unless the gov orders a change

Only if you accept this premise – poverty stricken communities have been eating wild animals that you would consider “exotic” for millenia

Much more likely, given the genetic distancing from the closest bat virus, is that the virus was inadvertently released from a “gain of function” experiment for vaccine research (it’s not deadly enough for an engineered bioweapon). As huls states, there is a biolab very close to the wet market where the virus was allegedly spread from.

Reply to  Earthling2
April 4, 2020 9:21 am

Ceasing to accept cash for purchases during this corona crisis is another opportunity for the globalist control freaks to gain more control.

Bryan A
April 2, 2020 10:18 am

Hear Here

Reply to  Bryan A
April 3, 2020 1:29 pm

What the heck is that supposed to mean? At the very least use Wikipedia if you are illiterate. Damn engineers.

Ian Magness
April 2, 2020 10:20 am

“All require a global-to-local response” (we know exactly where you are going with this Arthur…)
“the largest public health threat of the century, the climate crisis”
“Some of these health impacts have a clear climate change signature, such as the increasing frequency and strength of extreme weather events or the expanding range and spread of vector-borne diseases like malaria or dengue.”
OMG PLEASE spare us from these swamp creatures at a time like this.

Peter Fraser
Reply to  Ian Magness
April 2, 2020 3:21 pm

Don’t malign us swamp creatures.

Reply to  Peter Fraser
April 2, 2020 4:05 pm

Yes, there is something under the barrel!

Peter Fraser
Reply to  Ian Magness
April 2, 2020 3:24 pm

Don’t malign the swamp creatures.

April 2, 2020 10:27 am

“… the expanding range and spread of vector-borne diseases like malaria or dengue. For others, such as the COVID-19 pandemic, the connection with climate change is less clear cut.”
He means this one is so much more difficult to spin to the media that not even they are buying the usual climate crisis causation meme…

April 2, 2020 10:28 am

If we’d spend a few less billions per year climate pseudo-science we would easily be able to afford more ventilators and paper masks !

It is no surprise that UN which tries to use fake “climate crisis” to sieze control of sovereign state’s energy policy ( and hence their economy ) is trying to leverage the current health crisis to further the same ends.

Reply to  Greg
April 2, 2020 2:02 pm

I don’t think anyone much is listening to the UN right now, let alone their climate nonsense. The WHO screwed the pooch on COVID-19 big time, and no one is trusting anything out of China at the moment.
It was pretty obvious the WHO (a political organization like the IPCC) was in China’s pocket, so we’re not exactly looking to them for guidance right now.

Which is fitting, since we sure as hell didn’t elect any of those people to tell us what to do anyway. A fact that the Western world for some reason keeps forgetting. Perhaps it’s the Chardonnay.

Reply to  Goldrider
April 2, 2020 2:52 pm

I think you’re right about the UN, you can see a parallel with what is currently occurring in the EU, which with the UK leaving, coupled with what Europeans are literally witnessing right now, is that these massive bureaucracies are impotent in dealing with issues like the current problem, which affects its members but offer no solutions for its members. You’re on your own as the EU has said. Europeans are increasingly distrusting of the EU and similarly this will make more of the planet wary and distrustful of the UN and particularly the WHO and the IPCC.

April 2, 2020 10:35 am

Do the greens know something that we don’t know?? The chinese virus is “evil” and bad, yet all they cry about is the climate 😐

Jeffery P
Reply to  Sunny
April 2, 2020 12:12 pm

They think they know something we don’t know. But pretty much everything they think they know just isn’t true.

Reply to  Sunny
April 2, 2020 12:47 pm

..must remain relevant…….must remain relevant…….must remain relevant

J Mac
April 2, 2020 10:46 am

The top levels of WHO management are fawning China supporters. The brazen kowtowing to China by WHO illustrates why neither can be trusted for unbiased information.

George V
April 2, 2020 10:49 am

Given that the WHO lately appears to be heavily influenced by China, and that China would benefit by the western world destroying their own economies by adopting policies to supposedly mitigate climate change, it does not surprise me that a WHO representative would say this.

Steve Case
April 2, 2020 10:50 am

…the largest public health threat of the century, the climate crisis.

That’s as far as I was going to read. The United States really does need to get out of the U.N. Tell ’em to vacate the building in New York and go somewhere else.

Reply to  Steve Case
April 2, 2020 11:33 am

I’m still a fan of the now decades old saying, “Get the U.S. out of the U.N. and get the U.N. out of the U.S.”

Same thing you said, Steve, and I absolutely agree, so +1. But I always liked that catchy turn of phrase.

Ed Zuiderwijk
April 2, 2020 10:51 am

Unfortunately for that deluded ‘climate change advisor’, whatever that is, most people will learn from this pandemic that immediate, real and obvious problems in the real world are rather more important than his computer-generated fantasies.

Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
April 2, 2020 12:26 pm

Ed Zuiderwijk April 2, 2020 at 10:51 am

So true. love the phrase, “computer-generated fantasies.”

Michael Carter
April 2, 2020 10:53 am

Climate change alarmism was the prettiest girl at the MSM party. Then the model walked in

We all know how that works out

Walter Sobchak
April 2, 2020 11:00 am

Another chorus of ride my hobbyhorse, please.

Reply to  Walter Sobchak
April 2, 2020 8:58 pm

Luv, Luv, Luved it Walter. Thank you.

April 2, 2020 11:04 am

What do you expect? It’s not just the IPCC/UNFCCC that wants to undermine the success of the developed world, but all organizations associated with the UN share this agenda, including WHO. The UN has been trying to redistribute western wealth to the third world since its inception. Climate change is just the current excuse. No doubt that when the climate science scam is fully exposed, they will find some other imaginary justification.

Reply to  co2isnotevil
April 2, 2020 11:23 am

To paraphrase Lenin: The democrats will sell us the rope with which we will gerrymander the districts and force redistributive change. The normalization of reproductive rites and other dysfunctional religions (i.e. behavioral protocol) is a bonus that he may have hoped but probably didn’t predict… or maybe he did.

April 2, 2020 11:14 am

Pull WHO funding. They are obviously a political organization and science and medicine are merely a cover/tool for their politics.

Reply to  rah
April 2, 2020 12:33 pm

One of the major problems with the WHO is that funding was pulled and now WHO is funded in a large part by Big Pharma and by the Chinese Government on behalf of their Very Big Pharma. The WHO doesn’t deserve any credibility after a series of Keystone Cop escapades including the H1N1 Swine Flu debacle. Why anybody would turn to them for guidance with their track record would be incomprehensible except that we know the way governments and MSM work. If anything good comes out of this SARS2 comedy, perhaps it will be the complete restructuring of the WHO, though at this point it seems that we are more likely to bring back burning witches to control plague.

Reply to  BCBill
April 2, 2020 2:52 pm

The US accounts for 15% of WHO funding currently.
Trump is obviously already moving to get away from that.

As for China? I want them on their belly. And we better start doing it before they develop the ability to project real conventional military power. Despite the what one reads in the general press, China’s Navy and Air Force are 2nd rate. As yet nowhere close to the ability the US has. But they’ve been working hard to change that and will eventually get there if they aren’t stopped. Without the power to project first rate Naval and Air power the Chinese Army is really only a factor in China’s immediate sphere of influence.

The strategic goal should be to chop China down economically. Isolate them. Reduce their economy to the point where they don’t have the resources for the massive effort in military expansion and development they have now. Make them spend the majority of their GDP in keeping the masses that have become accustomed to improving living conditions satisfied. I don’t want to see them on their knees. I want them on their belly!

If we don’t I fear we’re doomed to WW III.

Reply to  rah
April 2, 2020 9:49 pm

Agreed! The Red China Communist Party is a VIRUS that must be rooted out and made extinct. This is getting similar to about 1935 and the trajectory with Japan. Military conflict is all but guaranteed with the Communist Party of China. If we elect a Democrat president, we may just as well dig up the English PM Neville Chamberlain and prop him out front with a sign in his dead hands that says “Peace for our time” which was his declaration made in his 30 September 1938 speech concerning the Munich Agreement and the subsequent Anglo-German Declaration.

Rich Davis
Reply to  rah
April 2, 2020 1:41 pm

US out of the UN and UN out of New York!
Let them move to Brussels and let the EU globalists pay for their useless activities.

Reply to  Rich Davis
April 2, 2020 4:08 pm

They should move to a third world $hi_hole where they can live among and readily service those they claim to care so much about. China can fund them.
John D. Rockefeller’s property and the UNHQ building are well suited for use as a mental institution.

Rich Davis
Reply to  czechlist
April 3, 2020 7:05 am

I’d like to see the UN complex torn down, all the rubble dumped far out to sea, and a large park take its place. Maybe a small museum documenting all the corruption and the futility of world government based on giving every tinpot kleptocracy a vote.

April 2, 2020 11:15 am

The social contagion spreads faster than the virus is a Green opportunity.

NYC Health: COVID-19 Daily Data Summary: Deaths

1397 deaths. 1046 underlying conditions. 333 conditions pending.

635 age 75 and over

574 female sex
872 male sex

The lessons Italy has learned about its COVID-19 outbreak could help the rest of the world

“The biggest mistake we made was to admit patients infected with COVID-19 into hospitals throughout the region,” said Carlo Borghetti, the vice-premier of Lombardy, an economically crucial region with a population of 10 million.

Curious George
Reply to  n.n
April 2, 2020 12:05 pm

What happened to other 48 genders?

Reply to  Curious George
April 2, 2020 1:03 pm

Refreshing, isn’t it?

Two sexes: male and female. Two genders (i.e. physical and mental sex-correlated attributes): masculine and feminine, respectively. And a transgender spectrum from homosexual to neosexual.

Reply to  n.n
April 2, 2020 2:15 pm

There are only two sexes and Lord only knows how many Genders there are or will be according to the mentally disturbed. The left tries to complicate the simplest things. It’s part of their deception. They have Ivory towers full of worthless scum with alphabets after their name to think up such bull hockey.

Reply to  Curious George
April 3, 2020 1:22 am

Excellent question!

I suspect this nonsense about genders, and indeed the whole Woke movement, will not survive this, a real crisis for a change.

Bryan A
Reply to  n.n
April 2, 2020 12:05 pm

How many Gender Neutered?

April 2, 2020 11:17 am

Wait. Aren’t we already doing it? We’ve essentially shut down air travel and holiday cruises. Hardly anyone is out driving. CO2 emissions have been dramatically reduced for the past 2-3 weeks. We’re already doing what they want and it’s crippling the global economy. They should be overjoyed.

Steve Case
Reply to  Juice
April 2, 2020 12:28 pm

Juice April 2, 2020 at 11:17 am

They should be overjoyed.

I’m sure that more than a few of them are.

April 2, 2020 11:28 am

“A senior executive advisor to the United Nations World Health Organization, which is supposed to be coordinating the global response to the Chinese Coronavirus Pandemic, has just urged nations to embrace climate action as part of their response to the outbreak.”

Remember when the ILO did labor, the FAO did agriculture, the WHO did health, the World Bank did infrastructure loans for developing countries, the WMO did Meteorology, and the UNDP did economic development of poor countries? Now they all do Climate.

The UN is a rogue bureaucracy out of control. We need to shut it down and start over.

Reply to  Chaamjamal
April 2, 2020 11:58 am

Maybe time to give the League of Nations (Version2) another go…with a different mandate than the UN.

Curious George
Reply to  Chaamjamal
April 2, 2020 12:06 pm

Shut it down – yes. Start over – no.

Stephen Skinner
April 2, 2020 11:34 am

Keep going WHO. reveal yourself.

Bryan A
Reply to  Stephen Skinner
April 2, 2020 12:10 pm

WHO are you
who, who, who, who
Well I really wanna know

April 2, 2020 11:36 am

“The coronavirus pandemic may lead to a deeper understanding of the ties that bind us on a global scale.”

Let me help you, Arthur. The coronavirus pandemic may lead to a deeper understanding of the lies that blind us on a global scale.

April 2, 2020 11:36 am

Pull out of the U.N. Pull out of WHO. Why do we pay for lairs? Let some all knowing country pay for stupidity.I don’t pay taxes for dumb Arses.Why do you.

Stephen Skinner
April 2, 2020 11:39 am
“However, temperate Europe was also once affected by malaria. In the UK, malaria was a fact of life for people living in areas of brackish or tidal wetlands until as recently as the early 1900s. Such habitats were suited to the British mosquito species Anopheles atroparvus, which was able to carry the disease from person to person. Ague, or marsh fever, as malaria was more commonly known, was associated with fits of shivering and chills, followed by fever and sweating. Although it is thought that the species of malaria parasite that circulated in Europe was a less lethal strain than that found in much of Africa, there was an undeniable toll on the communities at risk, including fatalities.”
Malaria was gradually eradicated from the UK as housing and healthcare improved. But the impact of malaria can still be found, if you know where to look. As part of wetlandLIFE, Research Fellow Dr Frances Hawkes and project artists Helmut Lemke, Dr Kerry Morrison and Victoria Leslie visited the North Kent Marshes last week, to experience first-hand a landscape where malaria used to be commonplace.
The team found a poignant reminder of the suffering caused by malaria at St James’ Church in Cooling on the Hoo Peninsula. In the graveyard of this 13th century church lie thirteen small gravestones, each belonging to an infant who died of suspected ague between 1771 and 1854. The church and the atmospheric marshlands leading down to the estuary of the River Thames were made famous by Charles Dickens in his 1861 novel Great Expectations. The churchyard is the location where young Pip meets the convict Magwitch, with Dickens’ describing the graves as “little stone lozenges each about a foot and a half long, which were arranged in a neat row beside their [parents’] graves”. Hence, they have become known as Pip’s Graves.”

TG McCoy
April 2, 2020 11:51 am

Sooo we never recover from the economic collapse that the UN wants.
Serf’s u!!p

Richard from Brooklyn (south)
April 2, 2020 11:52 am

(we) won’t get fooled again.

April 2, 2020 11:57 am

Geothermal denial is the most expensive scientific mistake of all time. No?

Curious George
Reply to  Zoe Phin
April 2, 2020 12:09 pm

Our atmosphere should not be modeled as a black body.

Reply to  Zoe Phin
April 2, 2020 2:16 pm

Zoe, to quote your site…
“…preventing radiation from reaching a colder place does not cause heating back at the source…“
Well, it does if the source has a heat generation means.
I don’t know how to be polite about this. You clearly need to get a lot more serious about studying radiative heat transfer. You are simply spreading junk science.

Reply to  DMacKenzie
April 2, 2020 2:35 pm

No, Sorry, DMackenzie, but the heat generation means are limited to say ~165 W/m^2. The molecules radiated by a continuous 165 W/m^2 do not suddenly move faster because somewhere else down the line (atmosphere) they are moving slower.

Remember, there is no such thing as conservation of heat flow. In GH effect junk science there is. And so to preserve the heat flow (a nonsense notion) they imagine the sun-warmed source must get hotter.

Q = e* s * (Th^4 – Tc^4)

Q goes to ZERO, but climate scammers try to preserve Q, and so Th “must” get hotter.

What stupid junk science.

Hospitals recommend wring blankets to 93C so as to raise skin temperature by a measely 1C. But according to your religion even a colder blanket will warm you up much more substantially.

You need to get serious about reality, not ideological mathematics aided by rheotoric.

Reply to  Zoe Phin
April 2, 2020 5:47 pm

When there is a Tsky between Tground and Tspace, then yes, Tground will get hotter due to the Q from Tsun. The Q must go to space, so Q is conserved….all in agreement with the T^4 SB equations you have written….but not in agreement with your stated interpretations.
“Q goes to zero” WTF ?
One can only conclude that you are a spoofer, punking people who are trying to understand phenomena that is unfamiliar to them. Shame on you.

Reply to  Zoe Phin
April 2, 2020 6:30 pm

You are the spoofer.
There’s no such thing as conservation of heat flow.

Molecules at the surface do not move faster because somewhere else up in the sky they move slower.

No, shame on you, vermin.

“Hospitals recommend warming blankets to 93C so as to raise skin temperature by a measely 1C. But according to your religion even a colder blanket will warm you up much more substantially.”

I see no response…
How telling, vermin.

Reply to  Zoe Phin
April 2, 2020 7:48 pm

If there is no conservation of heat flow, then energy is being destroyed.

PS, the fact that you always have to result to school ground insults after repeating the same disproven arguments over and over again just goes to show that even you don’t understand the nonsense you are trying to sell.

Reply to  Zoe Phin
April 2, 2020 8:21 pm

No, Mark, No energy is being destroyed. Energy simply flows from hot to cold, and not from hot to cold back to hot, making hot hotter.

You’re an imbecile, and someone needs to say it. One needs to resort to insults when low life scums simply repeats the same lies over and over again.

There’s ZERO experimental evidence to support you. And when you are presented with evidence that refutes you (see hospital blankets), you just ignore it.

Reply to  Zoe Phin
April 3, 2020 8:02 am

Once again, you go out of your way to demonstrate your ignorance of energy.
Everything that is above absolute zero radiates.
Everything that is radiated will eventually hit something.
Everything that hits something will increase the energy of that something.
The temperature of the two objects is irrelevant.

PS: I’ve never seen you refute anything I’ve stated. You just scream the same nonsense ever louder and with ever more insults.

I can’t wait for school to get back in session so you have something else to occupy your time.

Reply to  Zoe Phin
April 3, 2020 5:42 pm

“ such thing as conservation of…” you are incorrect
“….molecules at surface do not move faster…”. yes they move faster due to being warmed by the sun.
And blankets have nothing much to with it, other than a blanket at a temperature between body temp and cold ambient does result in less radiative heat loss to ambient….but inhibiting convection is the main warming effect of a blanket.
And your ad hominems are not appropriate for a lady nor this site.

Reply to  Zoe Phin
April 2, 2020 7:47 pm

I don’t know where you got your training in thermodynamics Zoe, but you really need to get your money back.

You should also spend a minute or two studying up on cause and effect.
Both the downstream atoms moving slower and the upstream atoms moving faster are both an affect of something else. Neither one is a cause.

When something slows down the rate of heat transfer, the downstream atoms get colder and move slower, also the upstream get hotter and hence move faster.

Reply to  MarkW
April 2, 2020 8:18 pm

So hospitals don’t need to warm their blankets. The colder the blanket the more the patient warms up. Why don’t you become a consultant for hospitals? You can save them money by getting rid of blanket warming devices.

Reply to  MarkW
April 3, 2020 8:02 am

Are you actually claiming that blankets only work if they’ve been warmed first????

Reply to  MarkW
April 3, 2020 10:31 am

Amongst Zoe’s many intellectual shortcomings, we can add not knowing the difference between transitory and steady state.

John Endicott
Reply to  MarkW
April 7, 2020 9:23 am

So, let me get this straight, Zoe, if you walk into a cold room (say 40 degrees F), pick up a blanket that has been sitting in that room (IE the blanket is also at 40 degrees F) and wrap that blanket around you, that blanket remains cold after, say a half hour to an hour, and hasn’t warmed, even a little (IE it’s still 40 degrees F), and you don’t feel nice and comfy (or at least not as un-comfy) in that blanket and instead feel just as cold as when you wrapped that blanket around you? seriously?

Reply to  Zoe Phin
April 2, 2020 5:19 pm

Yes sir, Mr Zoe Phin.
I have also noted the atmosphere bias of climate science. Here are some examples (I have more)

Reply to  chaamjamal
April 2, 2020 6:26 pm

It’s Mrs.
I’m glad others can see what climate scientists did.

Reply to  Zoe Phin
April 2, 2020 7:43 pm

Yet another time around this tired old hobby horse.
One could almost conclude that Zoe is being paid to distribute this nonsense.

Reply to  Zoe Phin
April 3, 2020 7:16 pm

Just ignore the attention seeking troll, everyone.

April 2, 2020 11:58 am

Time to repurpose some money where it will do some good. Trump should cut off the UN completely. Nothing useful there. With most of their money cut off they will hopefully go silent.

Flight Level
April 2, 2020 12:05 pm

I can’t understand how a decaying economy is favorable to a performing health system given that one day or the other the Antonov 124 will stop delivering free crisis relief hospital goodies.

Jeffery P
April 2, 2020 12:09 pm

The Chinese Corona virus gets all the love and global warming gets nothing. What better way to get Climate Change back in the game than piggybacking a global pandemic? Link the 2 and money starts flowing your way again.

William Astley
April 2, 2020 12:18 pm

The UN and EU employees all live in bubble. Sometimes what they say is therefore silly, childish, irrelevant due to their ignorance.

The paradigm has changed. It is sad that we no longer have any money to waste and we have a dangerous world economic shutdown that is going to cause world-wide social unrest that is going to very difficult to address.

The problem is bigger than the EU countries do not have enough money for a green new deal.

The poorest EU countries will not have enough money to pay government workers, run hospitals and schools, maintain roads, and so on without massive borrowing until world tourism and their economies restart. Tax revenue no longer covers expenses. That is not sustainable.

This is not stimulus spending. This borrowing to keep the lights on.

The EU Green new deal is dead (CAGW is almost dead).

“We simply don’t have the money to do everything,” an EU diplomat said, referring to the risk that the bloc’s Green Deal was at risk because of the economic impact of the virus….

The bloc had hoped to win support from all 27 member states for its 2050 goal at a June summit, although that meeting could now be overtaken by the coronavirus fallout.

“Maybe it will be less on Green Deal but more on trying to restart the economies,” a senior EU diplomat said.

“We cannot just continue with the plans and programmes we had so far. They were developed for a world without coronavirus.”

April 2, 2020 12:27 pm


April 2, 2020 12:32 pm

The WHO contradicts itself. A WHO “fact sheet” I referred to in my essay here on “Our Common Future”, which was updated in 2018, the link is now, promotes:

– prioritizing rapid urban transit, and
– making cities more green and compact, and thus energy efficient.

Both of these seem perfectly designed to spread virus infections, no? And shouldn’t any country that really wants to stop the spread of the coronavirus shut down all public transport into and out of cities?

Indeed, isn’t the car – and one person per car – the safest means of transport when there’s a major infection about?

Reply to  Neil Lock
April 2, 2020 3:05 pm

That’s an interesting point. I am currently driving into work, I note the usually packed trams, where people often can’t actually get on at peak times, have about 2-3 people on right now. So travelling on a the perfect breeding ground right now is probably almost risk free, however in my car, it’s positively risk free.

Reply to  Neil
April 2, 2020 4:33 pm

Think so? Maybe on in it but getting in it may be another matter.

Dr Brendan Glass
April 2, 2020 12:33 pm

I trained as an ecologist (1972-75) under Amyan MacFadyen FRS founder of British ecology and then a Masters in Hydrobiology (U. Lond.). Ehrlich’s doomsayer philosophy was important at that time. I followed this by a training in dentistry and thus have a background in medical sciences. However, my training has given me a critical eye with regard to research.
For ten years I have been a follower of this site and at times the general tendency of many articles to be strongly rightwing has stuck in my craw. Furthermore, my son, winner of accolades twice in national student science competitions has Aspergers as I do myself. While Greta is an unfortunate who has a passion under her skin and in manipulated by her parents and the media it is absolutely no excuse for comments on this site to demean those with Aspergers. Many many top scientists and artists have Aspergers and it is the capacity for many to think laterally that pushes science and the arts forward.
I have endured this because reference to useful research is brought to our attention here. Covid-19 is hopefully a once in a lifetime event. How it is managed is certainly open to question. That the USA was laggardly in its response is without doubt, but they are not unique in that! The constant reference here to Chinese Coronavirus is appears to me an attempt to shift the blame for the lack of rapid response in the USA. For the President to suggest that it was a Covid-19 was a load of hype by the Democrats was shocking. Yet this site makes no mention of that and generally worships the ground Trump stands on and constantly castigates the Democrats. Both have their faults and if you want to be truly respected you need to be apolitical and sympathetic to those whose life is tough. No matter one’s beliefs my mother’s saying and philosophy “there but for the grace of God go I” needs more attention here. Otherwise many fair minded readers will be lost to this site.

Reply to  Dr Brendan Glass
April 2, 2020 10:42 pm

Dr Glass, there are so many highly educated people on this site, scientists with the knowledge and training and experience to refute much of the sloppy science that is being funded by governments on a global level. You must know what stops them from speaking in more open forums, they have been shut down. If you don’t adhear to the AGW rhetoric then you don’t get funding. If you insist on speaking out against the warmist theories you will likely lose your job. The people here contribute to this sight because they don’t otherwise have a voice. This site is an opportunity for scientists to exchange ideas.

I think it’s a little trite to even comment on the articles being mostly rightwing, that’s why this site was started! The views here largely oppose the rhetoric that is parroted by the UN, WHO, MSM and ignorant politicians. And yes, Greta too.

Scientists are people, some of them have lost the sense of who they are. They have studied, researched, written papers over many years gaining the respect of their peers only to have their careers destroyed. Many lost their jobs and were actually stripped of awards! I’m talking high profile respected scientists.

So yes Dr Glass, there are those who find it hard to watch a 16 year old school dropout make a mockery of them. Her autism is not relevant here, she cannot take the world stage and expect to hide behind a condition that you yourself say should not necessarily hold you back. If she needed protection then that was her parents role. They have exposed her to criticism, they have groomed her for this role, they have to take responsibility for picking up the pieces when it all falls apart. She has no real scientific knowledge, she is being used as a marketing tool and she doesn’t even know the damage she is doing.

My friend and neighbor has two autistic girls, beautiful girls. I have seen only some of the challenges that come with autism. But there are so many different challenges out there that will touch each an every person that visits this site, some more than others. Don’t assume that you are the only person to experience difficulties in your life. Don’t assume that compassion wouldn’t be lost on people here too.

Pat from kerbob
April 2, 2020 12:36 pm

It goes beyond that.
Various types in canada have tried to reframe climate emergency as a health care issue
Then last week the governing liberals tried to sneak through some language in a covid response bill to give themselves unlimited powers to tax and spend until the end of 2021, no parliamentary oversight.

How large a step is it to go from unlimited power to officially branding climate change as a health issue so they can justify any amount spend on the green madness?

Paul Penrose
April 2, 2020 12:48 pm

While I’m no fan of the WHO (quite the opposite actually), I don’t think there’s much they could have done to slow down the spread of this disease. Have they done more harm than good over the entire course of their existence? Yes, but you can’t lay this particular pandemic at their feet.

Pat from Kerbob
Reply to  Paul Penrose
April 2, 2020 1:38 pm

They did the bidding of the chinese government and helped prevent the facts from getting to us, the head of WHO got there by chinese backing, a marxist idiot from Ethiopia who wanted to make Mugabe a WHO good will ambassador.
And that was one of his better ideas

April 2, 2020 12:50 pm

The virus is a threat. Climate change isn’t. Strong message to follow.

April 2, 2020 12:55 pm

Enter the WHO joining the CC cabal along with the Catholic Church, the UN, the World Bank, and multiple countries trying to virtue signal their way out of economic suicide by siding with the Globalists. Then along came #19 and stole all their thunder.

April 2, 2020 1:20 pm

Conflation has been the primary play in the green playbook for awhile now. They equate co2 emissions with real pollution. They display color filtered photos of steam coming from cooling towers to score points with an ignorant public. Labeling co2 as a pollutant was a home run in the legal games as well as an effective propaganda tool. They immediately accuse people of being anti-clean water and clean air if they oppose ridiculous climate action policies. They show photos of smoggy urban air on the news as they push global warming propaganda as a legitimate news story. We should not be surprised as they shamelessly and dishonestly attempt to conflate an awful pandemic with their alleged climate crisis.

Many in their leadership know that there’s no correlation with real pollution problems and public health and co2, but they don’t care. Probably more don’t know the difference.

April 2, 2020 1:26 pm

If there is one organization which is not fit for purpose,…, that organization is the WHO.
you got to be kidding. You do realise that April 1st was a day ago.
this is bad?
“– prioritizing rapid urban transit, and
– making cities more green and compact, and thus energy efficient.”
you believe this?!
“Given that the WHO lately appears to be heavily influenced by China, and that China would benefit by the western world destroying their own economies by adopting policies to supposedly mitigate climate change, it does not surprise me that a WHO representative would say this.”

At least with President Trump you only get the truth:
Feb. 7 (tweet): ”… as the weather starts to warm & the virus hopefully becomes weaker, and then gone.”

Feb. 10: “I think the virus is going to be — it’s going to be fine.”

Feb. 14: “We have a very small number of people in the country, right now, with it. It’s like around 12. Many of them are getting better. Some are fully recovered already. So we’re in very good shape.”

Feb. 19: “I think it’s going to work out fine. I think when we get into April, in the warmer weather, that has a very negative effect on that and that type of a virus. So let’s see what happens, but I think it’s going to work out fine.”

Feb. 24 (tweet): “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. … Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”

Feb. 25: “You may ask about the coronavirus, which is very well under control in our country. We have very few people with it, and the people that have it are … getting better. They’re all getting better. … As far as what we’re doing with the new virus, I think that we’re doing a great job.”

Feb. 25: “Now they have it, they have studied it, they know very much, in fact, we’re very close to a vaccine,”

Feb. 26: “Because of all we’ve done, the risk to the American people remains very low. … When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero. That’s a pretty good job we’ve done.”

Feb 26: “We’re going down, not up. We’re going very substantially down, not up.” He continued, “As they get better, we take them off the list, so that we’re going to be pretty soon at only five people. And we could be at just one or two people over the next short period of time.”

feb 27: “It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear. And from our shores, we — you know, it could get worse before it gets better. It could maybe go away. We’ll see what happens. Nobody really knows.”

Feb. 28: “I think it’s really going well. … We’re prepared for the worst, but we think we’re going to be very fortunate.”

Feb. 28: “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”

Feb. 28: “This is their new hoax.”

March 2: “We had a great meeting today with a lot of the great companies, and they’re going to have vaccines, I think, relatively soon,” he said.

March 4: “Some people will have this at a very light level and won’t even go to a doctor or hospital, and they’ll get better. There are many people like that.”

March 4: Now, this is just my hunch, but based on a lot of conversations with a lot of people that do this, because a lot of people will have this and it is very mild… So if, you know, we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better, just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work, some of them go to work, but they get better and then, when you do have a death like you had in the state of Washington, like you had one in California, I believe you had one in New York, you know, all of a sudden it seems like 3 or 4 percent, which is a very high number, as opposed to a fraction of 1 percent.

March 6: “Anybody that needs a test can have a test.”

March 9 (tweet): “So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!”

March 10: “And it hit the world. And we’re prepared, and we’re doing a great job with it. And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.”

March 11: “I think we’re going to get through it very well.”

March 12: “It’s going to go away. … The United States, because of what I did and what the administration did with China, we have 32 deaths at this point … when you look at the kind of numbers that you’re seeing coming out of other countries, it’s pretty amazing when you think of it.”

March 13: “I want to thank Google. Google is helping to develop a website. It’s going to be very quickly done, unlike websites of the past, to determine whether a test is warranted and to facilitate testing at a nearby convenient location.”

March 15: “This is a very contagious virus. It’s incredible. But it’s something that we have tremendous control over.”

march 17: “I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic”

March 23: ‘…On Monday, nearly 12.2 million people watched Mr. Trump’s briefing on CNN, Fox News and MSNBC, according to Nielsen — ‘Monday Night Football’ numbers. Millions more are watching on ABC, CBS, NBC and online streaming sites, and the audience is expanding. On Monday, Fox News…’ ‘…alone attracted 6.2 million viewers for the president’s briefing — an astounding number for a 6 p.m. cable broadcast, more akin to the viewership for a popular prime-time sitcom..’

march 24: “We’re going to be opening relatively soon… I would love to have the country opened up and just raring to go by Easter.” He added in a subsequent interview: “Easter is a very special day for me… and you’ll have packed churches all over our country.”

March 29: “How do you go from 10 to 20 to 30,000, to 300,000 — even though this is different. Something is going on. And you ought to look into it as reporters. Where are the masks going?”

march 30: “If you look at those individual statements, they’re all true,” Trump responded. “Stay calm, it will go away. You know it — you know it is going away, and it will go away, and we’re going to have a great victory.”

William Astley
Reply to  ghalfrunt
April 2, 2020 3:08 pm

Your post is so very filtered of thought. Please do come back and defend your point.

Are you saying we should have shutdown the country in February? The entire country?

What is the impact of a complete country shutdown? We are now facing a world-wide depression.

The US and Trump was between a rock and a hard place.

The UK also took the same approach as the US in delaying country wide isolation.

I would assume Trump has trying to avoid panic in the US and he had an understanding of the economic impact shutting our country down would cause.

China was the source of the virus. Trump initiated a travel ban from China and declared a public health emergency Jan. 31, 2020.

Trump bans foreign nationals who have traveled to China from entering the US
There’s a mandatory quarantine, too

Reply to  William Astley
April 2, 2020 4:12 pm

William Astley April 2, 2020 at 3:08 pm
Your post is so very filtered of thought. Please do come back and defend your point
not being a health or financial expert I could not say when the country should be shut down.

you would have to play off allowable deaths versus lost GDP.
how do you value lives? how many would die if nothing was done?
How do you know how many will die because of inadequate financial support for the impoverished.

So trump knew about the virus at least by the end of January. SARS-CoV-2 was first detected in the U.S. on Jan. 20. Why did trump not start ramping up tests. ppe , med equipment instead of playing down the seriousness. Why did he then start blaming china for not releasing the info when “On 31 December 2019, the World Health Organization (WHO) was informed of several cases of viral pneumonia of unknown cause detected in Wuhan City, China.”
It is true that it was 11th march before the who called it a pandemic, but it was obviously causing world wide problems. Trump was still saying
March 11: “I think we’re going to get through it very well.”
March 12: “It’s going to go away. … The United States, because of what I did and what the administration did with China, we have 32 deaths at this point … when you look at the kind of numbers that you’re seeing coming out of other countries, it’s pretty amazing when you think of it.”
Why dis he try to imply that ppe was being stolen by nurses/doctors?
March 29: “How do you go from 10 to 20 to 30,000, to 300,000 — even though this is different. Something is going on. And you ought to look into it as reporters. Where are the masks going?”

did he not realise that ppe should be changed between patients (1 patient 4 visits per day per nurse = 4 ppe kits) – if not, why not?

Where are his preparations.
How do you control panic when 100s of thousands die unless you start hiding the deaths.

Blame who ever you like but inaction leads to deaths.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  ghalfrunt
April 2, 2020 7:06 pm

I believe the timeline goes something like this:

Dec. 1, 2019, the Chinese military in Hubei province goes on lockdown. This is probably when the Chinese first figured out they had a virus problem.

Jan. 14, 2020, The World Health Organization and the Chinese say on Jan. 14, 2020, that there is no evidence of human-to-human transmission of the Wuhan virus.

Jan. 21, 2020, the first case of Wuhan virus is discovered in the U.S.

Jan. 23, 2020, President Trump forms up the public/private task force to fight the Wuhan virus.

Jan. 31, 2020, President Trump institutes a travel ban on air traffic from China, with a ban on travel from Europe soon thereafter.

Feb. 2, 2020, Nancy Pelosi tells everyone to go to Chinatown, and New York City officials, including Governor Cuomo, tell New Yorkers not to worry about the Wuhan virus.

Trump is right on top of things with regard to the Wuhan virus, and the Democrats are impeaching and demagogueing while Rome burns.

William Astley
Reply to  ghalfrunt
April 2, 2020 9:17 pm

Stop talking politics for a minute and summarize what we know.

Let’s really talk about important stuff.

Some good news.

The US had developed an antibody to SARS using the same synthetic engineering techniques that you stool from the US. The US had completed the trials with the new antibody and were planning to start human trials.

The US using the AI system that produced the SARS antibody, a Covid-19 antibody is being produced. Based on the success on the SARS virus and that it is an AI there will be an antibody developed for Covid-19 for mass production and release by September.

The US military is taking charge. This virus almost feels like an attack.

Odd that the virus has released while the US has being internally attacked by a strange mindless group. They have no plan to help. They just have a single goal.

Odd that the Chinese, in official channels would accuse the US of developing and release a virus.

The US is a real democracy. We are on the side of good.

Oh, perhaps you are another one of them Chinese puppet propaganda writers.

What side are you on? You obviously have an agenda and are a one subject kind of guy/girl.

William Astley
Reply to  ghalfrunt
April 2, 2020 9:30 pm

Trump is on the side of US citizens. He is demonstrating that every day. For example see below. Immediate action.

The virus event is very, very much like a time of war.

What side are you on?

Billionaire Mark Cuban also exposed 3M distributors for making as much money as possible with the masks and even spoke to the White House about the “price gouging” he said was taking place.

The president authorized Secretary of Homeland Security Chad Wolf for FEMA “to acquire, from any appropriate subsidiary or affiliate of 3M Company, the number of N-95 respirators that the Administrator determines to be appropriate.”

Reply to  ghalfrunt
April 2, 2020 7:51 pm

What is it about socialists and their tendency to repeat the same disproven arguments over and over again?

Everything you list was true at the time spoken. When facts change, Trump changes his position. Unfortunately socialists aren’t permitted to do anything except repeat the party line over and over again.

April 2, 2020 1:56 pm

> Some of these health impacts have a clear climate change signature, such as the increasing frequency and strength of extreme weather eventsor the expanding range and spread of vector-borne diseases like malaria or dengue.

Repeating a lie does not make it a truth.

April 2, 2020 2:04 pm

I’m on the centrist – ok, liberal … ok, ultra-liberal – end of people who comment on this blog, but I agree with this.
I followed the Corona thing from the beginning because I did predictive modeling of pandemic outbreaks (SARS, etc.) and terrorist acquisition of WMD for many years before I retired. I noticed immediately that the head of the WHO repeatedly down-played China’s denials, slow-walking, and tardy response. I looked him up and noted that he’s Ethiopian and that Ethiopia is in hock up to its eyeballs to China.
Follow the money.

Pat from kerbob
Reply to  chris
April 2, 2020 4:22 pm

He is basically a Chinese appointee
One of the first things he tried to do was appoint Robert mugabe as a goodwill ambassador.

Yes really, that’s the current head of WHO

Tom Abbott
Reply to  chris
April 2, 2020 7:24 pm

“I noticed immediately that the head of the WHO repeatedly down-played China’s denials, slow-walking, and tardy response. I looked him up and noted that he’s Ethiopian and that Ethiopia is in hock up to its eyeballs to China.
Follow the money.”

The WHO head was also invovled in trying to hide cholera epdemics that were taking place in his home country of Ethiopia.

Now here he is covering up the Wuhan virus epidemic.

We really shouldn’t be taking advice from this man.

His and the Chinese leadership’s downplaying of the infectiousness of the Wuhan virus caused the whole world to miscalculate the seriousness of the virus until it was too late to keep it from becoming a pandemic.

If the real infection rate had been told to the world, people would have paid attention and taken earlier actions to stem the tide, like travel bans which some of the hardest-hit nations didn’t implement until late in the game, one reason being Chinese leaders were putting pressure on every nation, incuding the U.S., to not implement travel bans. Most nations went along with the Chinese. The U.S. did not.

The world could have had a heads-up on the Wuhan virus clear back in December if the Chinese leadership had been honest about the situation. The decision to hide the truth will have caused the unnecessary deaths of countless innocent people. It’s Mass Murder.

April 2, 2020 2:05 pm

Opps. to be clear, I do NOT support WHO connecting Corona to climate change. That is not credible and certainly aimed to let China off the hook.

sorry for not being clear.

Andy Pattullo
April 2, 2020 2:06 pm

Things to do today:
1. De-fund UN.
2. De-fund WHO.
3. Remind world bank to develop underdeveloped countries not enforce poverty.
4. Lock most media in kiddy corral at the local mall.
5. Lose key to kiddy corral at the local mall.
6. Make extinction Rebellion Extinct
7. Remind schools and universities what science and math are and how to do them.
8. De-fund schools and universities that don’t attend to point 7.
9. Create a fossil-fuel-free, “carbon neutral”, clean, green, sustainable padded room where all the radical environmentalists can go to meet. Lock the door from the outside.

Pat from kerbob
Reply to  Andy Pattullo
April 2, 2020 4:25 pm

One of the few things China is doing right, building coal fired power plants all through the 3rd world
Locking countries into debt traps but that’s the price for reliable electricity, since the west seems bent on keeping them in endless poverty

Reply to  Pat from kerbob
April 3, 2020 3:17 am

China is making little-Chinas everywhere. China need cheap subcontractors to make cheap stuff. Africa need cheap stable energy and work. It´s a winwin which west couldn´t have because redgreens didn´t like the idea. China do not listen idiots on it´s road to global markets. And when it´s done west wakes up as a loser.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  F1nn
April 3, 2020 7:01 am

“China do not listen to idiots on it´s road to global markets. And when it´s done west wakes up as a loser.”

That’s definitely a possibility, especially if the U.S. elects a delusional Democrat in the next decade or two. Democrats are pawn of the Chinese government, even Democrat presidents, and vice presidents. Right, Joe?

Otoh, the Chinese Wuhan virus attack on the world may cause nations to sue for damages which might include confiscating Chinese property in their countries, so those Chinese powerplants might not be Chinese for much longer..

I think a U.S. Senator is going to introduce a bill in Congress to allow U.S. citizens to sue the Chinese government directly for damages from the Wuhan virus. The U.S. might not be the only nation to implement such a law.

The Chinese leadership definitely haven’t heard the last of this, what can only be described as a deliberate attack on the rest of the world with the Wuhan virus.

What else can you call it but deliberate, when the Chinese leadership knew how infectious this virus was and yet hid that fact from the world and resisted against restricting the travel of infected Chinese to all parts of the world. It may not have been an act of war per se. The Chinese leadership just might have decided to share their misery with the world, after seeing what was happening to themselves. And from recent reports, China may not have suppressed the virus yet. So more misery to come for China from the virus and financially from the people they attacked with the virus.

Reply to  Andy Pattullo
April 3, 2020 6:06 am


April 2, 2020 2:19 pm

The climate scam and the Corona panicdemic are closely connected by poor data, bad models and totally deluded (or blinkered) experts.

It’s the same plot just a different cast of control freaks!

Reply to  Shytot
April 2, 2020 4:09 pm

…and pushed by the same bunch of clowns!

But look how close they came to the location of origin– the Hunan virus and the WHO-UN response!

April 2, 2020 4:45 pm

Ask yourself what did the WHO or for that matter the UN do for anyone apart from stick their hand in your pocket. It’s time to disband the whole Circus, let the clowns roam free like the global village diots that they are.

I first came across a WHO bureaucrat in the early 70’s in Zambia, talk about a useless bump on a log. An arrogant a’hole who had failed to gain meaningful employment with some third rate degree in “social science” now there’s an aphorism if there ever was one .

The current director of the WHO should be defending his actions and inactions in court, well I can still dream.

Mike Maguire
April 2, 2020 5:35 pm

Yes, we should get better prepared for the advancing climate optimum.

One thing that Farmers/producers can do is to invest in more storage/bin capacity to be better prepared for the continued massive increase in crop yields/production of their crops.

The last 40 years have featured the best weather for life and growing crops in the last 1,000 years, thanks to the slight, mostly beneficial warming and the massively beneficial increase of CO2.

Soybean yields have doubled(completely ignoring the model predictions).

Corn yields have soared higher too. Thanks in part to the improving/beneficial climate also but mostly from the use of natural gas to manufacture nitrogen fertilizer.

“Another secret about fossil fuels: Haber Bosch process-fertilizers feeding the planet using natural gas-doubling food production/crop yields. September 2019”

The world supply of cereal crops continues to remain very high thanks to robust/increasing production:

The WHO is part of the United Nations. But this is what the UN started telling us about this topic over 3 decades ago:

“U.N. Predicts Disaster if Global Warming Not Checked

“Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of ″eco- refugees,′ ′ threatening political chaos, said Noel Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program, or UNEP.”
Coastal regions will be inundated; one-sixth of Bangladesh could be flooded, displacing a fourth of its 90 million people. A fifth of Egypt’s arable land in the Nile Delta would be flooded, cutting off its food supply, according to a joint UNEP and U.S. Environmental Protection Agency study.”

“Shifting climate patterns would bring back 1930s Dust Bowl conditions to Canadian and U.S. wheatlands”

They were not just wrong with almost every single prediction(by a wide margin) but on the climate for food production, how do you get away with predicting widespread crop failures/disasters and instead, crop yields keep soaring to new records and even doubling during that same time frame……………and somehow are allowed to keep having a significant voice saying the same absurd things, proven wrong over and over by empirical data/facts as evidenced with the data links above.?

The reason? Facts and authentic science just don’t matter. What matters is what you can get most people to believe.

A powerful method to accomplish this has been to give people a reason to be really afraid of something bad happening(fake climate crisis). Then, you present/pretend to be an elite, altruistically motivated expert on the matter that has THE solution to save the planet for our children and all of life.

They understand how we can control the climate. All that is needed is to trust them and to do exactly what they tell people that needs to be done……but don’t fact check them or look at their track record because the science is settled and the debate is over.
(only deniers think otherwise). Just BELIEVE.

A climate optimum is NOT a problem. The planet does NOT need saving………..we rescued it from CO2 starvation.

April 2, 2020 6:05 pm

Let’s call it what it is, the Worthless Health Organization.

April 2, 2020 6:16 pm

WHO, like CDC, seem to be a little too worried about things like racism and climate change, and not enough in disease, the thing they’re (by name) supposed to be doing. This lack of focus meant nobody really had a plan, and they keep blabbing to help hide the fact from the rest of us, who are actually doing our jobs. We should pull their funds, and find groups that can actually get the job done.

April 2, 2020 7:00 pm

We should hurry up and warm the globe. Coronaviruses are generally much worse in winter.

April 2, 2020 10:28 pm

Millions will die from human stupidity refer to Einstein. Tens of Thousands of old sick people will die of this common cold virus as they do every day. The data says it all every DAY 170000 die mainly from respiratory ailments and heart problems. Everybody will get this virus and it will affect everybody just like the common flu except in the Tropics and subtropics. You cant stop it. The world is self immolating except for Sweden where 340 people have died over 4 months look up daily NORMAL death statistics for Sweden. BTW Trump was WRONG Sweden has NOT reverted to a lockdown

April 2, 2020 11:33 pm

A warm hot summer is exactly what we need. The virus hates the heat.

April 3, 2020 12:29 am

Further to thw WHO spreading the PANIC (which to me is worse than the desies) they reported recently and emotively that there are ONE MILLION CASES WORLDWIDE… shock horror… but hold on… that’s .. let me see….0.013% of the world population… that’s 13 people per 100,000….what people usually lack in these emotive times is perspective

April 3, 2020 4:43 am

Am I the only person who is struggling with such a tenuous link between a pandemic and Climate Change??

Serge Wright
April 3, 2020 5:19 am

The WHO have proven themselves an utter failure. Their first response to the virus was to denounce border closures as racism and to praise China for acting on the virus more than a month too late and creating a global pandemic. You wonder what is their real charter.

If there is any positives from this pandemic, it’s that when the mountainous body count has been completed in a few years and the world stares at a wasteland of fallen economies, everyone will start pointing the finger at WHO (not Watts). Those guys will need to learn to run fast.

Reply to  Serge Wright
April 3, 2020 8:12 am

ummm what mountainous body count… my prediction… it will be no more than a bad flu year…

Gunga Din
April 3, 2020 8:00 am

“Climate action” against a virus?!?
What do they plan to do?
Freeze it or fry it?

D Cage
April 3, 2020 10:20 am

Does this retard realise by associating this with climate change he has at a a stroke totally undermined the effort of the whole British government? If the WHO is associated with climate change action then to me it is no longer a trustworthy organisation. Round here there is less sign of the virus than there usually is of colds and flu so why should I believe an organisation pushing action based on this problem when a prediction error rate of 100% on climate change says it is a clear cut unambiguous scam ?

April 3, 2020 10:47 am

Never let a great funding opportunity (pandemic) go to waste or even sit idle on the public stage.

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