In an interesting turn of events, the Washington Post has done a front-page feature on Naomi Seibt, a German climate skeptic and YouTuber that WaPo describes as “… 19-year-old German who, like Greta, is blond, eloquent and European.”
Some excerpts:
But Naomi denounces “climate alarmism,” calls climate consciousness “a despicably anti-human ideology,” and has even deployed Greta’s now famous “How dare you?” line to take on the mainstream German media.
“She’s a fantastic voice for free markets and for climate realism,” said James Taylor, director of the Arthur B. Robinson Center for Climate and Environmental Policy at the Heartland Institute, an influential libertarian think tank in suburban Chicago that has the ear of the Trump administration.
Later this week, Naomi is set to make her American debut at the Conservative Political Action Conference, or CPAC, a high-profile annual gathering just outside Washington of right-leaning activists.
Full article here.
Here is a video worth watching:
Naomi makes a very effective “anti-Greta”, not only because she disagrees with Greta, but she makes her points in a calm and rational manner, and makes an impression as a mature and thoughtful young woman, not a petulant dropout child. Naomi’s only real expression of emotion is being offended at being called a “denier” and associated with those who denied the Holocaust, which would certainly be offensive to any young German woman. Other than that, she sticks to the facts, and leaves the hysterics to Greta and others.
I’m sure Naomi has every intention of living long beyond the next 12 years!
I liked “leitmotif’s” video of Greta off-script, taking nearly a minute to say something like “I’ve had enough. Could someone else answer this question?”
Greta is right about one thing, though. She should be back in school, possibly learning some science before spouting off about how those with far more life experience have failed.
Common boys, this is too cheep,
do not fall for it… or at least try the best not to.
Both these girls, regardless of all rest out there, in their own merit are brilliant… really brilliant!
Stop getting tricked in taking sides… especially in this one.
For whatever sake, is a matter of two young females, both very good at what trying a do and achieve, by their own approach and endeavor, especially in the consideration of their age.
It is not a football match or some other sport competition or a game,
it is life there, for best or worse… Both these girls are still too young to be blamed.
Please try to be respectful.
Is not like considering how you deal or treat some one like Bob Ward here,
very far way and clearly removed from it.
Please keep going as deep as you can in such a consideration, as that may be the only remedy there… in consideration of the Ward and the Wardish lango or lingo there,
but still none of these two young ones do deserve such as a cynical treatment or addressing. 🙂
Let these two be…
and don’t loose the focus or the aim on the Wardish or Lewdonkish, or the Cookish lingo… the SS guys language… the very weird and out of place schist there, technically the worst there.
cheers
Naomi Is Brilliant, not so much Greta…. Greta is a puppet as Naomi kind of defined but not directly about Greta
JPP
Soph on Bitchute has done Greta Satire that is utterly brilliant. I marvel at her talent, though her language is very coarse to say the least.
Whiten, we didn’t ask for Greta, she has caused enormous damage to young people globally. She was thrust onto the world stage as a marketing tool and has no scientific knowledge whatsoever, she has simply been coached to follow a script. That is evident when she has been caught off script and cannot find the words.
What has been done to her, a child is disgusting and the affect of the dramatic propaganda she delivers so well is causing serious physiological harm to children around the world who have already been primed in the education system.
Megs
February 25, 2020 at 2:35 am
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Megs, I am really sorry for posing this question to you.
Please do not take it the wrong way, just simply the world we live in is quite large,
and I have no means or even the will or time to check every little detail there…
So please to find kindness to allow this question put to you without the proposition of you being offended.
Do you work or not for the Guardian in UK???
Or you being significantly, in one way or another, affiliated with the UK Guardian activity???
Thanks.
cheers
Work for the guardian the paper that spreads lies about climate change who hold Greta in high regard ,and you pose your question to some one who holds Greta responsible for damaging /fearmongering children , and has been minipulated by climate terrorists,
Your aving a laugh son
B d Clark
February 25, 2020 at 3:02 pm
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Thank you for your consideration B d Clark.
But still my question stand as posed to Megs and not to you.
Thanks anyway.
cheers
You post on a open forum any one can answer.
Consider that.
Megs,
YOU better be reading this .
Whiten, I too find your question extremely odd. What was it that I said that could possibly link me to The Guardian? I believe in free speech, The Guardian would not publish anything I have to say, there is no balance in their reporting, only extreme rhetoric.
I responded to Kristi near the top of this thread, it’s quite an extensive post and should give you some insight as to where I’m coming from.
February 25, 2020 at 5:53 pm
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Megs,
really sorry for this continuing engagement to be so late in the day.
Your interest and effort very much appreciated… honestly.
Your point made and proposed also accepted as valid, in general, even when the initial point proposition there still considered as 50/50, in the clause of most probably just it been an odd coincidence.
Never the less, much appreciated… and thank you very much for answering my direct question posed to you.
Also if I may add to this, in consideration of the very much appreciated proposed advice by B d Clark towards me and my stand.
Very clever one. (hopefully B d Clark reading this)
But in the end of this all, Megs;
what would or could you actually propose as the next step or the most affordable and safe forward approach in addressing such as a condition there?
Please take your time and let me know… if that not much to be asking of you.
(Also in consideration of B d Clark reading this;
boy please do not even flirt with the idea of you aving a laugh…. 🙂 )
cheers
Seriously Whiten? Hahaha….hahaha you got me, very funny.
Nice to see I really got to you,🤪
As for the rest of your post, how often do they allow you to use a keyboard?
Megs
February 26, 2020 at 2:11 pm
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Yes indeed, very fanny 🙂 .
Still standing by for a proper follow up by You, if that again, is not much to expect… 🙂
cheers
You have been answered fully to your question, what’s wrong troll dont like another player on the field.
B d Clark
February 27, 2020 at 2:12 am
Nice to see I really got to you,🤪
As for the rest of your post, how often do they allow you to use a keyboard?
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Silly boy B d Clark!
You were clearly told not to flirt even with idea of aving a laugh!
But you still do.
See, anything about you as addressing and engaging with me in this conversation wholly consist with the position or the proposition of Megs.
Megs at this point in time really failing to follow up as required, therefor what next comes wholly up to Megs, not you.
Only 30 mins or half an hour tolerance given at this point, you too fail, regardless,
if Megs fails.
Yes, haaa….haaa I think I really got her… 🙂
She or whatever, really knows that. As it stands, a huge bollocks.
Let’s see if Megs have the guts to do it….
Failed or failing to follow up, technically subjects her and you to a very very harsh outcome from me, so you too got to reconsider you schist there mate…
Still only half an hour given here.
cheers
Megs
February 26, 2020 at 2:11 pm
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Megs,
with all do respect, you failed to follow up and explain your mess there, therefor I got to tell you that if you not attempting a give it a go, you got to face the pain of my words towards you, ain’t going a be pretty… and I think you know it!
cheers
Megs
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Really sorry to put it this way, also same goes for the toy boy.
Megs, I was really taken from your first point of proposition there, in your first reply to me, the point of “we”.
You see what followed next from you, it showed to me that you no any where near of even meaning that, and still I tried to be as kind as I could in giving the benefit of the doubt.
But still you failed to follow and amend.
In consideration of my own life experience what you spouted out about the Guarding UK is not real, only a lie or a fake claim.
If that what you were out to get stated by me, you just had simply got to ask.
Then, in my consideration, a proposition that simply based and forwarded in the means of deception and trickery, ones rejected will be in the clause of the consideration as it coming from characters that will simply be seen as 100 carat whores or 100 carat prostitutes, also the same for any toy boys there.
Sad to say this, but that is where you stand dear.
Hopefully this being as clearly as possibly put.
You see, I too once upon a time happen to be affiliated with the Guardian UK, as a regular commenter in their climate change section.
I will not have being offended or pretending to, if some one asked me about some like that!
But hey, no way that I will ever consider a proposition of belonging to a “we” in such as way that you attempted to get through… dear.
(and it does not really matter if this whole affair simply unintentional or intentional… even in one little bit.)
good luck
cheers
Well a fight fire with fire, battle ,naomi verse Greta, this should prove interesting, are the media if they dont boycott her going to pick up on the content of her upcoming speeches? Is she going to get ripped apart,? she is just about taking on every establishment on the planet.
You know what would really have helped,if some of our learned members on this site stood in the spot light with her,
When Greta was taken apart for being a asperger’s suffer, a manipulated child ,a pawn of climate terrorists (which I dont disagree with) will the same voices who condemed criticism of Greta stand up and defend Naomi right to defend what she believes in, I some how doubt it, she will be at the front of the battle field, I also think she will have her protectors ,any organisation linked with naomi will feel the full force of the climate terrorists and the lies that shall surely follow.
B d, I suspect that Whiten is speaking out of his ‘bot’ ?
Yes you can see English is not there first language, nonsensical question, even after answering they still insist you answer again, from the first question posed, they did not even understand the guardians stance on Greta and climate change,, I should not reply to them again ,their baiting you and trying to bring the thread into disrepute, typical child activist ploys.
Thanks for the support B d, back to the real issues.
B d Clark
February 27, 2020 at 2:58 am
Boy, you were clearly told not to flirt with the idea of aving a laugh… !
Still you do not consider it .
cheers
Megs
February 27, 2020 at 2:38 am
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Megs,
For the clarity of the matter… is whiten and not Whiten….
Part of me is happy to see the arrival of Naomi Seibt (the anti-Greta) on the “climate change” scene but another part of me wishes that adults with outstanding scientific credentials were being given the spotlight in which to challenge Global Warming Alarmism (GWA), more so than this young lady, even though she does sound reasonable. To those who have created this campaign against C02, GWA really means Getting Wealthy by Alarmism.
Picture 1 million air molecules. Of those air molecules no more than 400 (.04% or .0004) are CO2 molecules. Of those CO2 molecules only 12 (3% or .03) are man-made. That is, amongst every million air molecules in our atmosphere only 12 (.03 x .0004 x 1,000,000) are man-made CO2 molecules while 388 are produced by nature. Greta believes those 12 in a million will bring catastrophic heating to the planet and that she can actually see these invisible planet wreckers at work. I’d say this young lady needs to go back to school but sadly the education system is part of the problem too.
Greta.
A kid who dropped out of school to preach the the conclusions of the “Settled Science” while she never learned enough to evaluate said “settled science”.
Naomi.
A kid who stayed in school. Learned science. Thought on her own and evaluated the “Settled Science” behind this BS was anything but “Settled”. And took the further step to see the politics behind it.
Hmmm … Which one is honest and which one is a deluded pawn of others?
(That shouldn’t be a tough question.)
PS Which one is “cuter” has nothing to do with what they’ve said.
(Though, hands down, that would be Naomi!)
(Will I get a “snarl” or “How dare you!” from Greta for that? Maybe someone should be keeping track of those and who she directs them at? I smell a new “award”!!
In Greta, you can see what fear and disdain will do to a person’s looks. (As an aside, I have noticed that a woman’s looks are more impacted by her attitude to life and hard life in general than a man’s looks.)
I hope Naomi Seibt will be at the Climate CONFERENCE on MAY 7-8, 2020 at
CAESARS PALACE – LAS VEGAS
She would give a good heartfelt talk I am sure . . . She’s not a scientist but understands the issues…
Probably more than CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBS, CBS, PBS, etc… the MSM. . .
JPP
…NBC…
Dont forget BBC
British bullshit corporation
LOL
Britisch Bolschewik Comrades
Heres naomi’s opening speech.
https://youtu.be/sM96cK08JbA
Where and when was this ? I think this should be the foundation of her talk at the heartland Climate Conference on MAY 7-8, 2020 at
CAESARS PALACE – LAS VEGAS
She might want to insert some more factual data points in her talk But to expand on this would be great !
Jpp
BTW, I hope she can and will attend. If she needs funds I would contribute … and I’m sure WUWT others would too do so she could attend, and be a speaker…
JPP
I think very recent, the video was only uploaded two days ago.
Rare Kudos to WaPo for mentioning another view.
On a related note, I see the “sane” Oregon Senators have again stymied the idiotic left re: fictitious “Climate disaster” destructive legislation. You go guys!!!!
Then we get the following spin on the same story:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/conservative-group-history-climate-change-220641952.html
Soph is 2 years younger than Greta. If you want to see real genius and don’t mind profanity, enjoy.
The problem with her (Soph) is that it seems like she is reading something.. Who Wrote it?
Greta and Naomi can seem to talk without reading. Especially Naomi Seibt….
JPP
She supposedly writes her own material in collaboration with another teen. There are unscripted interviews of Soph and she demonstrates a sharp wit and intelligence in all of them. I wince at some of the things she says but am coming around to again realize that free speech protects the right to offend.
I like her Scissor! She is so direct, and at the same time succinct. The mod must let her get away with saying what we want to say because she is so young?
You may be right; prerogative is good to have.
She is highly censored. She crosses the line again and again. It’s interesting that her conservative narrative is the epitome of counter culture today.
Unfortunately the angle of the WAPO is to make the case that Naomi is paid stooge to parrot anti science scepticism whereas Greta is a natural spokesperson for the green movement.
The truth is more like the opposite but that is the angle of their piece.
Sad.
Oh wow, they should set up a debate between the two, with no advisors on either side. I wonder which side would blink first. I can almost hear the reasons why Greta’s team would be looking to not have any debate on the subject.
The difference between persons with calm, rational thought, and ones with emotional hysteria.
Yes, it’s Naomi’s logos versus Greta’s pathos. Unfortunately, many people these days are responding to pathos (appeal to emotion) rather than logos (appeal to logic). Then there is ethos (appeal to ethics) which requires that the person presenting an argument be of high moral character but sadly the parameters of morality have become blurred and deception creeps in with ease. How many times have we thought highly of a person, believed what they told us was the truth, only to discover later that they were not as they appeared to be? All we can do is search for truth but be constantly aware that lies often come disquised by a veil of truthiness.
Well, she’s an answer to the fraudulent ploy. And a good reminder that, when it comes to culture and politics it’s not about the science.
As so often is the case with leftists, climate change activists accuse their opponents of being climate change deniers when they are the real climate change deniers themselves. The climate has continuously changed since the earth was formed. It is the activists who believe that the climate was static until humans started changing it. The current warming cycle started before humans emitted significant CO2, and follows many previous warming cycles. Trying to stop climate change is impossible, and only provides a pretext for expanding government power.
Great! Now if we can get these two girls to fight to the death in a cage match we can all completely lose our souls. The problem with Greta Thunberg had nothing to do with her opinions or what she believes. It’s the idea of sending a 16 year old with Asperger’s to fight your battles for you. Sending another 16 year old to fight the first one is beyond shameful. It’s literally sick. Why don’t we send 16 year old girls to fight ISIS while we’re at it. I don’t care whAt your opinions are on Climate Change, this all feels so gross. I’m not looking to trade the rational high ground for a gimmick. Or to send a young girl to fight my battles for me. This is so wrong and does nothing to the end of bringing sanity to a debate that is already knee deep in the insane. No thanks.