By Andy May
Why have uninformed celebrities and politicians been telling everyone, who will listen, we are all going to die in a climate catastrophe in 10 to 30 years? U.N. General Assembly President María Fernanda Espinosa Garcés of Ecuador warned us that:
“We are the last generation that can prevent irreparable damages to our planet” (link)
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, once said:
we only have 12 years or “the world is going to end.” (link)

Figure 1. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY). Photo by Cheriss May of NurPhoto, taken on Feb. 5, 2019.
Prince Charles of the UK on July 11, 2019:
“Ladies and gentlemen, I am firmly of the view that the next 18 months will decide our ability to keep climate change to survivable levels and to restore nature to the equilibrium we need for our survival.” (link)
However, these absurd statements are not supported by even the most fanatical climate alarmists, like Kate Marvel (NASA), Gavin Schmidt (NASA), Katharine Hayhoe (Texas Tech), or Andrea Dutton (University of Florida) (link). The original inspiration for these statements came from a 2018 IPCC report entitled Global Warming of 1.5°C. Even the alarmist Scientific American does not think the world is ending in twelve years.
We will discuss this IPCC report below, but first let’s look at some critical evidence that is not in the report. As usual the IPCC dodges the current benefits of warming and additional CO2, so we need to fill in this gap.
A little over two years ago I posted an essay entitled “Calculating the Cost of Global Warming,” it did not calculate a cost, but discussed calculations made by others. Global warming and the increasing concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere are not existential threats to mankind or to nature. Global warming will not go “runaway,” this idea, discussed here, has been discredited by climate change skeptics and by climate alarmists alike (see here and here for examples). So, given that global warming and additional CO2 will not harm us, we are reduced to a discussion of the economic impacts and benefits, both positive and negative, of global warming and additional CO2.
Global warming and additional CO2 are benefiting humankind today and will still be a net benefit for many years to come. Someday, if the worst climate change computer projections turn out to be true, there may be a net cost. To compute the cost of global warming we need to determine the net present value of the current and future benefits (negative costs) and the net present value of the possible future costs, after multiplying the possible future costs by the probability that they may occur. This calculation needs to be done at some chosen future date, the date should be far enough in the future that some positive costs could occur, but not so far in the future as to invalidate our climate and economic projections. Obviously, the longer in the future that we project the climate and its impacts, the less certain we are that they are valid. If the result is a negative cost number, then we have a net benefit to humankind and if positive we may have a problem if the cost is too high. Sounds simple enough, but the process is fraught with problems. In the words of the IPCC:
“Global economic impacts from climate change are difficult to estimate.
Economic impact estimates completed over the past 20 years vary in their coverage of subsets of economic sectors and depend on a large number of assumptions, many of which are disputable, and many estimates do not account for catastrophic changes, tipping points, and many other factors. With these recognized limitations, the incomplete estimates of global annual economic losses for additional temperature increases of ~2°C are between 0.2 and 2.0% of income (±1 standard deviation around the mean) (medium evidence, medium agreement).” IPCC WGII AR5 Technical Summary, page 71.
The emphasis is added by the author. Currently, global economic growth is about 3% per year, 2.9% in 2019 and an estimated 3.3% in 2020 according to the International Monetary Fund. So, the maximum economic impact of 2°C, as estimated by the IPCC, would be recovered in less than a year using current growth rates. This is hardly a crisis but let us examine recent arguments and cost estimates.
Projecting future climate
Before any future costs can be estimated, we must first estimate what climate will do in the future. Projecting future climate is very uncertain as explained here. Determining how much impact humans have on climate is even more uncertain, see here for a discussion of how the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) has attempted to determine human influence. The quote suggests that there may be “tipping points,” they mean that human influence on the climate may “tip” the climate system into an unstable state causing some sort of catastrophe, but we can rule that out as discussed in the already cited post “Can Earth be Compared to Venus.” Basically, the large amount of water in our oceans dampens any changes in our climate due to the high heat capacity of water. Colin Goldblatt and Andrew Watson show us that it is impossible for a planet to go “runaway” by simply adding CO2 to the atmosphere. The IPCC phrase about “catastrophic changes” may be suggesting that extreme weather might increase, but we’ve seen no signs of that, as explained here.
The climate projections made by the Coupled Model Intercomparison Project (CMIP), the most recent being CMIP5 in 2014 are high relative to observations as shown in Figure 2 in a graph by Dr. John Christy. This graph was presented to the House of Representatives committee on Science, Space and Technology on February 2nd, 2016.

Figure 2. A graph of CMIP5 global tropospheric temperatures (5-year averages) versus satellite and weather balloon observations. These predictions are for the Representative Concentration Pathway (RCP) 4.5, a moderate case. Source: House of Representatives report by Dr. John Christy.
Nearly all the models overestimate current tropospheric temperatures, the average is too high also. The only model that comes close to the observations is the Russian model, INM-CM4. This model is structurally different from the others. Relative to the other models, it assumes a much smaller climate sensitivity to CO2 and a larger climate inertia, due to the oceans and their large heat (storage) capacity. INM-CM4 does not predict dangerous or expensive warming. All the curves are smoothed to eliminate short term changes, like El Ninos, since climate is defined as a long-term state, that is, greater than thirty years.
Economic Forecasts
So, we’ve established that the current climate forecasts are problematic and that they probably overestimate the climate impact of increasing the atmospheric CO2 concentration. Given this, one would think that taking the average output of these forecasts and feeding it into economic models to determine the impact of climate change on our economy would be problematic as well. But this is exactly what climate change economists do.
Benefits of global warming and additional CO2
In discussions of climate change, the rather obvious benefits of global warming and additional CO2 are often ignored. Yet, global warming and additional CO2 have increased the amount of land under cultivation and increased farm yields. The additional CO2 has also caused the planet to become greener as measured by total leaf area. This is discussed here and in the post’s links and references. Additional CO2 in the atmosphere causes plant leaves to have fewer stomates or breathing holes in their leaves, this causes plants to use less water and makes them more resistant to extreme temperatures and droughts. Warming increases the Earth’s vegetative area and the additional CO2 causes plants to move into areas where they previously could not survive. It also allows plants to survive at higher altitudes on mountain sides because there is more CO2 available at any given air pressure and air pressure decreases with altitude. The effect of altitude on photosynthesis is very complex, but the partial pressure of CO2 is a key component.
These physiological changes to plants, due to rising levels of CO2, have increased crop yields dramatically. Combined with improved fertilizers and rapidly spreading advanced farming technology, this has resulted in far less hunger in the world today. This is true even though the population has increased. Dr. Craig Idso has computed the monetary benefit of additional CO2 here. In Table 3 of Idso’s report (page 11) he calculates that between 1961 and 2011, CO2 has increased farm gross revenues, for the top 45 crops, by an astonishing three trillion constant 2004-2006 U.S. dollars. The crops showing the largest increase were rice, wheat and grapes. These crops saw increases of US$579 billion, US$274 billion and US$270 billion respectively.
World population growth peaked at about 2.2%/year in 1963 and has been falling ever since. The actual growth peaked in 1989 at 88,000,000 people and this quantity has also been falling since then. Even so the global population is larger today than at any time in the past, mainly because people live longer today. Today’s population is around 7.8 billion people, more than twice as many as in 1961, yet people today have more food per person, not less, as seen in Figure 3. Part of this increase in food supply is additional CO2 and warmer weather.

Figure 3. Total kilocalories (food Calories) of food per person around the world. Data source FAOSTAT.
The atmospheric concentration of CO2 today is about 400 ppm or 0.04% of the atmosphere. We are seeing the benefits to food production, farm productivity and the greening of our planet as I write this. There is no suggestion that the rate of farm productivity growth, due to increasing CO2, will fall anytime soon. Plant productivity, due to increasing CO2 will increase at least until the CO2 concentration has more than doubled from today’s level, as seen in Figure 4.

Figure 4. Dr. Sherwood Idso holds signs showing the additional CO2 concentrations used to grow four Eldarica Pines. The photo was taken by Sherwood Idso’s son, Dr. Craig Idso in 1989. The tree grown at “AMB” or ambient conditions on the left was grown with a concentration of about 350 ppm, the concentration in the atmosphere then. The tree on the far right, was grown in an atmosphere of 800 ppm CO2, twice the concentration we have today. Used with Craig Idso’s permission.
Thus, we have every expectation of continued growth in our food supply and aerable land area due to higher CO2 concentrations for the forseeable future. The CO2 concentration is currently increasing at a rate of about 2 ppm per year at Mauna Loa (see here), so it is unlikely reach 800 ppm in less than 200 to 300 more years, assuming some increased uptake by plant life. Other benefits of warming include lower heating costs in the winter and fewer deaths due to cold weather.
Climate Change Hazards
The most recent IPCC report on the hazards of global warming and additional CO2 is entitled Global Warming of 1.5°C. It was published in 2018 and the downside risks of additional warming and CO2 we will discuss next come from this document. We will focus on the key assertions from the “Summary for Policymakers.”
The first assertion in the document:
“Human activities are estimated to have caused approximately 1.0°C of global warming above pre-industrial levels, with a likely range of 0.8°C to 1.2°C. Global warming is likely to reach 1.5°C between 2030 and 2052 if it continues to increase at the current rate.” (A.1, Page 6, Summary for Policymakers)
This estimate is based on climate models as discussed here. Figure 5 shows the HadCRUT4 global temperature record. It is produced by the Met Office Hadley Centre and the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia. The NASA dataset closely tracks this dataset, as can be seen here.

Figure 5. The HADCrut 4.0 global surface temperature dataset. Source: Met Office Hadley Centre.
The HadCRUT global surface temperature record shows a decreasing temperature trend of negative 0.0016 degrees per year from 1850 through 1910, an increasing temperature trend of 0.0138 degrees per year from 1910 to 1944, then decreasing again at a negative 0.0026 degrees per year from 1944 to 1977, and increasing again from 1977 to 2019 at a rate of 0.017 degrees per year. It is possible that a flattening of the temperatures started about 2000, but the 2016 El Nino appears to fit in with continued warming, only time will tell if we have flattened longer term or moved into another cooling trend. The trends displayed in Figure 5 start in 1850 in what we are assuming is the pre-industrial era, at -0.3°C and end in 2019 at +0.7°C. So, in this document, the IPCC is claiming that 100% of the warming is due to humans. This is somewhat at odds with their WG1 AR5 assertion:
“It is extremely likely that human activities caused more than half the observed increase in GMST [Global Mean Surface Temperature] from 1951 to 2010.” WG1, AR5, Page 60.
Figure 5 presents the current rate of warming as 0.0171°C per year. This is 1.7°C per century or 0.5°C in thirty years. So, if the current warming trend, as determined by a least square’s regression of the data since 1977, continues for another thirty years, we will achieve 0.5°C of additional warming. This is what the IPCC is claiming, 2050 is within the range they give in the report. It will be interesting to find out if that happens.
WG1 AR5 says more than half of the warming since 1950 is due to human activities and Global Warming of 1.5°C says all of it is due to humans. The difference in the two assertions is not explained in the Summary for Policymakers. In WG1 AR5, they explain that uncertainty prevents them from being more precise. But, even in WG1 AR5, they assumed that natural forces did not play a role in modern warming (see Figure 6 and the explanation here). In Figure 6, “NAT” are natural forces, such as solar variability, and “Internal Variablity” are natural climate oscillations, like the El Nino/La Nina events. They assume that over periods of sixty years, these natural fluctuations sum to a zero effect, many others disagree as you can see here. Longer term climate cycles, that is longer than 60 years, have been well documented and longer-term solar cycles appear to correlate with them, although there is a furious debate about this in the Wattsupwiththat community. Thus, the IPCC assumption of zero natural influence on climate since 1951 has been seriously challenged by some. Other arguments against the assumptions illustrated in Figure 6 can be seen here and here.

Figure 6. The WG1 AR5 (page 66) likely ranges of warming forces, given in degrees C of warming, over the period from 1951 to 2010 due to greenhouse gases (GHG), humans (ANT), humans, except greenhouse gases (OA), natural forces (NAT) and internal variability.
The second assertion in the document:
“Warming from anthropogenic emissions from the pre-industrial period to the present will persist for centuries to millennia and will continue to cause further long-term changes in the climate system, such as sea level rise, with associated impacts (high confidence), but these emissions alone are unlikely to cause global warming of 1.5°C (medium confidence).” (A.2, page 7, Summary for Policymakers)
They are simply saying that human emissions alone, to date, will cause warming of less than 1.5° for some time to come, even if we stop emitting CO2 today. No argument there. But, the magnitude of the impact of CO2 and other greenhouse gas emissions on climate is unknown. This statement, combined with the first assertion, like many others from the IPCC, implies we know the impact of man-made greenhouse gas emissions on climate with a fair degree of accuracy (±20%, or a “likely range of 0.8°C to 1.2°C”) and we do not. The impact of CO2 alone, is only known to ±50% (1.5° to 4.5°C per doubling of CO2) according to WG1 AR5, page 14.
The third assertion:
“Climate-related risks for natural and human systems are higher for global warming of 1.5°C than at present, but lower than at 2°C (high confidence). These risks depend on the magnitude and rate of warming, geographic location, levels of development and vulnerability, and on the choices and implementation of adaptation and mitigation options (high confidence).” (A.3, page 7, Summary for Policymakers)
Given that warming to date has benefited humankind, made the planet greener, and supplied us with more food, why would we characterize 0.5° to 1°C of additional warming as a risk? Wouldn’t it be more logical and accurate to characterize warming, to date, as a benefit? Further, “climate-related risks” for whom? Aren’t deaths due to cold a “climate-related risk?” More people die from cold weather than warm weather.
The fourth assertion:
“Climate models project robust differences in regional climate characteristics between present-day and global warming of 1.5°C, and between 1.5°C and 2°C. These differences include increases in: mean temperature in most land and ocean regions (high confidence), hot extremes in most inhabited regions (high confidence), heavy precipitation in several regions (medium confidence), and the probability of drought and precipitation deficits in some regions (medium confidence).” (B.1, page 9, Summary for Policymakers)
Laughably obvious and unalarming. If global average temperatures go up, hot extremes will increase in some regions, of course they will. There will be more precipitation in some areas, since higher temperatures generally lead to more precipitation, and colder temperatures lead to less. The probability of drought will increase in some regions, there is always a drought somewhere, so this is obvious as well.
Later in the document they go further and speculate that risks from droughts are projected to be higher at 2°C of warming than at 1.5°C in some regions. What part of global do they not understand? They are wording much of this in such a way as to make obvious statements sound alarming.
“By 2100, global mean sea level rise is projected to be around 0.1 metre [4 inches] lower with global warming of 1.5°C compared to 2°C (medium confidence). Sea level will continue to rise well beyond 2100 (high confidence), and the magnitude and rate of this rise depend on future emission pathways. A slower rate of sea level rise enables greater opportunities for adaptation in the human and ecological systems of small islands, low-lying coastal areas and deltas (medium confidence).” (B.2, page 9, Summary for Policymakers)
Sea level has been rising for the past 18,000 years, as shown in Figure 7. If we take the construction of the religious monuments at Gobekli Tepe in southern Turkey as when civilization started, sea level has risen 60 meters (197 feet) since civilization began. The current rate of rise is very low at around 2 to 3 mm/year.

Figure 7. Sea level rise since the last glacial maximum. Author: Robert A. Rohde, source: Wikimedia.
For more on sea level rise see here. The recent rate of global sea level rise cannot be determined accurately since our instruments are only accurate to several centimeters and the rate is between one and three mm per year, or about 4 inches per century to 12 inches per century. These are not alarming rates and allow coastal residents and their descendants plenty of time to either move to higher ground or build defenses, such as sea walls. Sea level rise is not a global problem, it is a local problem. Do not expect to be taking photographs of the Statue of Liberty halfway under water in your lifetime or in the lifetimes of your great-great grandchildren regardless of climate change.
The next assertion:
“On land, impacts on biodiversity and ecosystems, including species loss and extinction, are projected to be lower at 1.5°C of global warming compared to 2°C. Limiting global warming to 1.5°C compared to 2°C is projected to lower the impacts on terrestrial, freshwater and coastal ecosystems and to retain more of their services to humans (high confidence).” (B.3, page 10, Summary for Policymakers)
This is obvious nonsense, colder weather leads to more extinctions, not warmer weather. See discussions here and here. The average temperature of the Earth’s surface for the past 500 million years, the age of complex life on Earth, called the Phanerozoic, is about 20°C (68°F), this is over 5°C (9°F) warmer than today. We are currently living in an Ice Age, which is a rare occurrence in the Earth’s history. A fact that drives this home is that mortality is much higher in the winter, at any location in the United States, than summer. As the Earth warms, there will certainly be more heat-related deaths, but the decline in cold-related deaths will be larger. Warming increases temperatures in winter more than in the summer. Warming also occurs more at high latitudes than low latitudes.
Discussion
The remaining assertions all depend upon the IPCC assumption that colder is better and warmer is bad. Further, and even more dishonest, is the assumption, against all evidence, that warming is always bad. They ignore abundant evidence that past warming has been beneficial.
B.4 suggests that warming will increase ocean temperatures and lower ocean pH or “increase ocean acidity.” It ignores the abundant evidence that corals and other ocean life have built-in methods of adapting to changing temperature and pH, as discussed here.
B.5 asserts that humans are at greater risk as temperatures rise, this is the opposite of what the summer/winter mortality data shows. Far too many studies seek alarming headlines by reporting absurd results, as discussed by Bjorn Lomborg:
“Journalists looking for alarming headlines get help from climate scientists who gloss over adaptation and from public-relations teams that know their audience. A 2018 paper looked at two scenarios. In the first, sea levels rise almost 3 feet during the next 81 years, yet no one thinks to change the height of a single dike anywhere in the world. That would cost $14 trillion globally a year.
The authors acknowledge this wouldn’t happen: ‘It is clear that all coastal nations have and will continue to adapt by varying degrees to sea level rise.’ In the second scenario, they try to account for adaptation, though they assume that as soon as any nation gets as rich as Romania is today, it will freeze its efforts.” (WSJ, May 30, 2019)
The IPCC and the climate alarmist community have become experts in framing the discussion to avoid any conclusions that are different from their political agenda. They avoid any discussion of evidence that warming is beneficial or that adaptation is preferable to or cheaper than mitigation.
Section C discusses how to achieve zero greenhouse emissions by 2050, which the IPCC believes is necessary to limit temperature increases to 1.5°C above the pre-industrial era. They do not show why this is necessary, nor do they prove why limiting greenhouse emissions will achieve what they say. After all, we might warm 1.5°C due to natural forces. Section C is a discussion of model results, but as we have seen the climate models have not been validated against observations.
Section D is a logical bait-and-switch. They stop discussing observations, assume their models are perfect, change the goal from improving the planet and humankind to achieving their strawman goal of keeping global surface temperatures from exceeding 1.5°C.
We have seen that warming, particularly warming from 1.5° to 2.0°C from the pre-industrial era, will almost certainly benefit humankind and nature. There could be some economic consequences in the far future, beyond the year 2100, but they will be small relative to the economic consequences of eliminating or radically curtailing the use of fossil fuels.
The cost of mitigation
Mitigation, or the reduction in CO2 emissions in the hope that this will reduce the rate of warming, is extremely expensive as Bjorn Lomborg, Nobel laureate William Nordhaus and economics Professor Richard Tol have written. Richard Tol has written that climate change will have a limited impact on the world economy prior to the year 2100. Regardless of the IPCC warnings about man-made greenhouse gas emissions causing dangerous warming, Nobel laureate William Nordhaus has said that the costs of their proposed CO2 cuts are not worth it.
The IPCC refuses to compare the costs of ending the use of fossil fuels to the costs that might be incurred if temperatures rise. However, according to Bjorn Lomborg and the IPCC, the cost of potential warming might be 0.2% to 2% of global GDP, but as noted above that is not a problem, it is perhaps nine months or so of growth. Yet ending fossil fuels would cost the EU 24% of its wealth. Lomborg notes:
“the over-the-top reception to the latest IPCC report means that we are more likely to continue down a pathway where the costs [of mitigation] would vastly outweigh the benefits [of curtailing climate change].” WSJ, October 9, 2018
Perhaps this issue is clearer when we discuss energy poverty. This is defined by the International Energy Agency (IEA) as a family that spends more than 10% of its income on energy. Ten percent of Americans are in energy poverty and in Germany, which has very high energy costs due to their reliance on renewables, more than 30% of the citizens are in energy poverty. Calls for the government to do more to curtail the use of fossil fuels are disguised as selfless calls to action, but they disproportionately punish the poor.
Conclusions
The hysterical statements of an impending climate doom in 12 years are not supported by observed changes to date. The report does prove that the level of BS rises with report length, but it does not say the world will end in 12 years.
What the report does say, is that we might reach 1.5°C of warming, since the pre-industrial era in the Little Ice Age, by sometime between 2030 and 2052. We place the beginning of the pre-industrial era at about 1850 when the HadCRUT global surface temperature record starts. The world’s surface has warmed about one degree since then, so they are saying we could warm an additional 0.5°C by 2030 to 2052. They claim this might cause some serious problems, but present no evidence of this danger, only unvalidated computer model projections and speculation. They ignore the abundant data that shows humankind is benefiting from the warming to date and will probably benefit from warming in the future (see here). As Professor Richard Tol (University of Sussex) has written:
“The impact of climate change on the economy and human welfare is likely to be limited at least in the 21st century.” (The quote, a discussion of his results and the link to his paper can be seen here.)
There is nothing new in Global Warming of 1.5°C. They rehashed the IPCC AR5 report and changed the “dangerous” temperature increase from 2° to 1.5° as a stunt to make the “danger point” appear to be sooner. The IPCC has presented no evidence that 2°C above the temperatures in the Little Ice Age are dangerous, much less 1.5°. This document is not a scientific document, but political propaganda.
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Do We Really Have Only 12 Years to Live?
12 Y no, 12 KY possibly, 12 MY unlikely.
One can only hope that she, and her ilk, have 12 years left on the planet.
That was 2 years ago, we only have 10 left now.
I submit that the apocalyptic timeframe is shorter due to microwave saturation with no place to hide except below ground:
On January 25, 2020, environmental groups conducted more than 210 events in over 200 cities Their goal is to stop the deployment of millions of 5G antennas on Earth and 50,000 5G satellites in space, and to secure emergency high-level meetings with officials in governments and international governmental organizations including the European Union, the United Nations, and the World Health Organization. The issue is microwave radiation, which has been steadily intensifying for over two decades courtesy of the wireless revolution. 5G will bring a huge increase in radiation, virtually overnight, everywhere —in cities, suburbs, parks, nature preserves, wildlife refuges, oceans, Greenland, and Antarctica. Instead of cell towers every few miles, there will be cell towers—small but powerful—in front of every third to fifth home. Instead of 2,000 satellites orbiting the Earth, there will shortly be 50,000.The organizers of the events include people who have already been so severely injured by wireless devices that they can no longer participate in society at all. They are fighting for their own lives, the lives of their children, and the lives of the insects, birds, animals, and all of us submit that electrosmog poses a more significant danger with a narrower timeframe:
Isn’t there any form of shielding available to block this radiation?
Kiribati is still here with their never-ending begging-bowl out though … are we sure this thing is really happening?
Art, you posted: ” . . . we only have 10 left now.”
Actually, the “12-years-left” statement was made by AOC in Jan 2019 (check out the date on the second link given in the above article). That means, by her accounting, that we still have 11 years left now.
Whew! . . . you had me worried there for a minute.
now I have the stress of figuring out what I am going to do with that extra year … thanks for nothing Gordon.
For the love of God, people, haven’t you figured out YET that NONE of this has anything to do with “the science” or “the evidence?” It’s now a secular religion being weaponized to stampede the human “herd” off a cliff, it’s as simple as that. Astroturf from top to bottom, with a lot of useful idiots like AOC in between.
True Believers don’t WANT to be persuaded that all this is hooey; because that would invalidate the “virtue” on which their hard-won social status depends. They’re not going to read your graphs and your math and your evidence because THEY DON’T CARE–anymore than you can convince a creationist that the world is older than 7K years.
What they need is PUSHBACK in strong, ungloved terms–to be told the American people ARE NOT on board with their world redistribution scheme, and if they want to scare themselves and their children senseless they can knock themselves out. But if they come for OUR money, energy, etc. they’re going to get a fight that will make the Gilets Jaunes look like house pets.
AOC’s doomsday is already a self-admitted lie – sorry, she said she was ‘joking’ – and that anyone who believed her was an idiot – probably the closest to a factual statement that she’s made.
But she wasn’t joking – she pumped that message hard for months to get the scare out there – just like Goebbels – and now it’s in the public.
Greta Also talks about 12 years
From the Guardian:
Our house is on fire. I am here to say, our house is on fire.
According to the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change), we are less than 12 years away from not being able to undo our mistakes. In that time, unprecedented changes in all aspects of society need to have taken place, including a reduction of our CO2 emissions by at least 50%.
People have been living in hot dry places for thousands of years. It’s not the end of the world, just the end of the cushy lifestyle.
The 12 years or whatever number they make up doesn’t matter. What matters is who actually believes it. It might be the only thing not blamed on the Russians.
Homo sapien sapiens are essentially a 200K to 300K-year-old (ish) animal that migrated
It has been said, and no one knows who said it first, that when a headline is followed by a question mark, the answer is always No!
Nevertheless, this is a well constructed essay (having read it quickly), so thanks Andy.
I’ll check back tonight, as I’m trying to get some things done for which I need daylight.
[ ….unlikely reach 800 ppm in less than 300 more years.
But 2 x 200 = 400; that needed to get to 800.
Or what did I miss? ]
Did you miss the planet greening? Where’s that fertiliser coming from?
Global Climate Change propaganda is all “fertiliser” – horse manure!
There is enough fertilizer coming from the mouths of warmists to green the Earth for a thousand years.
John, It could be that fast, that is 200 years, but I anticipate the growth rate falling with time as vegetation catches up and we become better and more efficient in our use of fossil fuels. See this post by Dr. Roy Spencer:
http://www.drroyspencer.com/2020/02/nature-has-been-removing-excess-co2-4x-faster-than-ipcc-models/
This is an area that needs a lot more work.
And don’t be fergettin, as those “Spring” temps increase from the equator thru the higher latitudes, ……. microbial decomposition of the dead biomass follows suite, …… and CO2 is being outgased into the atmosphere by microbes, ……. before it is being ingassed by the green growing biomass.
I can lead someone to the facts of nature, ……… but I can’t make them drink. 😊
John, Thanks for your comment. I clarified the language a bit, so it is more clear.
At my age, i hope i have another 12 left 🙂
(i jus’ knew somebody wuz gonna say dat)…
That was my first thought reading the headline. 12 years gets me to 78.
I remember in school, the campus film society ran Dr. Strangelove one week. They had a handout commenting that everybody was afraid of atom bombs, and then pointed out that since the bomb was developed billions of people had died of other causes. Quite a few people die from weather, climate not so much. Relatively, the number is negligible.
CO 2 has minimal effect on global temperature.
These people are either insane ( All Out Crazy) or very, very stupid ( Proper Charley).
Nice post. The only problems are that it is fact based and logical, two concepts utterly foreign to AOC, Prince Charles, and their alarmist ilk.
The CAGW nonsense is now finally burning itself out. The older scare stuff didn’t work any better than renewables. The more Warmunists double down on gloom and doom now (AOC and Green New Deal) the more ridiculous they look to the rest of us.
More people are figuring out that all the increase has come from China and the developing world…
..and the more the little communists twist and turn to keep from blaming China..the more obvious it gets that’s it’s a $c@m
It is a skillful propaganda plus pseudo-science. Dr. Joseph Goebbels would be proud of the campaign. To detect an Orwellian effect, just run a query for The Art of Propaganda on Amazon. In the first page of results, there is no reference to Goebbels. So you can’t (or shouln’t) know how the barrage of propaganda was inspired.
It’s becoming obvious to more and more people that wind and solar won’t work. If you google nuclear power only solution you get around half the hits saying that nuclear is the only viable way to replace fossil fuels. The other half insist, for various reasons, that it isn’t. The first hit says conservation is the way to go so it isn’t advocating for wind and solar.
As far as I can tell, the tide is turning in favor of nuclear. The alarmists have a problem. For political reasons, they have ginned up the climate crisis as an excuse to implement their socialist agenda. Of course the population believes the real problem is CO2 and any solution that addresses CO2 is as good as any other solution. Oops. If nuclear solves the CO2 problem, there’s no crisis. If there’s no crisis the excuse for the socialist agenda evaporates. Then the alarmists have to go to all the work of ginning up another crisis. Aw, too bad. (imagine a crocodile tear emoji here)
Speaking of Nuclear.. here is a novel approach to fusion. Try fusing something easier than hydrogen. https://newatlas.com/energy/hb11-hydrogen-boron-fusion-clean-energy/
It’s surprisingly simple to get some fusion. link
The problem is that the vast majority of particles find a way to lose their energy that doesn’t result in a fusion producing collision.
Anyway, I agree that the current approaches to fusion energy are probably barking up the wrong tree.
@rbabcock
The reason that aneutronic proton + 11 Boron fusion isn’t powering the world is that it’s very difficult. It’s not that it’s new or novel, or “radical”.
The hard part of fusion is forcing the charged nuclei together in the face of like-charge repulsion. For deuterium-tritium fusion, you need 13.6 keV energy. That’s really hot. For proton-Boron fusion, you need about ten times higher energy. Your link references a laser heating/confinement reactor scheme that’s usually called “inertial confinement”. It’s not new or novel. it doesn’t change how much energy is needed. There’s nothing you can do to make p-B fusion work easier than D-T fusion. If your lasers are better, it’s still easier to do D-T than p-B. D-T is easier to fuse. That will not change.
The plus side of p-B and other aneutronic fusion paths is that they do not produce most of their energy in a hot neutron that will go zinging into your reactor wall causing all manner of damage and making it radioactive, and generally hard to collect the energy. So it has that attraction. But, as said, it’s really hard to do.
Rud, my spiele these days with China, India, Africa, Russia…. going ahead with rapid fossil fuel energy expansion is we are going to go ahead with the big CO2 experiment no matter what the EU, UK, Canada, Australia.. does.
We are going to know precisely what TCS/ECS is and if there is something to worry about. So why should the minority wipe out its own prosperity for no benefit to the world. Me, I think so far the best bet is on a Garden of Eden Earth, green, prosperous, well fed and likely peaceful with peak population only decades ahead.
You hit the answer square on its head!! Sometimes I have to wonder where common sense has gone!!
12 years? Today I was told it was 11 by some odd people blocking roads in Cambridge. However, after seven days the police pretended to clear the obstruction and some token protestors have appeared in court, but will probably be let off later when it’s forgotten.

The proclamation by AOC was made in January 2019. She had misinterpreted a U.N. report from October 2018. In any case, going by her timeline, we have under 11 years left.
Yes, her handlers provided her with info from the 2018 report which she wildly misinterpreted.
When she came to her senses after being ridiculed for spouting nonsense, she did an Emily Litella “Never mind!” (A reference for Saturday Night Live fans back when the show was funny.)
If I have to share the place with the likes of Lewandowsky, Cook, Ocasio – Cortez, Oreskes etc I am not sure I want to live that much longer. The Moon or Mars would seem a more amenable place.
Not me.
I can live an extremely long and happy bunch of more years with those people making complete jackasses of themselves with their every utterance.
For one thing, it brings a degree of clarity to the world to have a subject such as this one, that causes so many individuals to out themselves as weak minded dolts, shameless liars, outright thieves, various flavors of control freaks, swill-sucking rent seekers, nest feathering sinecurists, and all of their various lackeys, toadies, sycophants, brownnosers, bootlickers, and apple polishers.
Not to mention bad scientists and total moronicuses ( or is it moronici?).
Nicholas, thankyou for pointing out the bright side of the situation.
I am reborn. I will mow the lawn tomorrow then have a chat with the landscaper and try and pin down the builder as to when he can start on the kitchen and barhroom.
I will put up a large picture of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and laugh while I sip on a cold beer and throw darts at it while enjoying my new outdoor patio…
Nicholas McGinley – February 23, 2020 at 9:46 pm
Shure you can, Nicholas McG, …… and that’s exactly what the smart people in Venezuela thought when socialist policies were being implemented by dictators Hugo Chavez and Nicolas Maduro.
From being the richest country in South America, ….. 2 out of every 3 of the remaining population are now going hungry.
I agree . . . and even recommend stockpiling popcorn for the AGW song and tap dance show that will follow in the next 5-10 years if we enter something approaching a Little Ice Age cooling period, which is more and more likely as many scientifically-sound, climate-driving cycles/processes converge toward that outcome.
Nicholas: Precisely, this is the best sociological/psychological experiment ever done. I’ve long thought that John Cook of the 97% consensus is essentially right, that only 3% at most do any thinking and the wonders of the world came out of the imagination and thinking of this small number (even probably fewer).
Dissidents in the Soviet Union were from this small number. I have no problem with the wokies own idea that 3% are effectively preventing most of the 97% from destroying themselves by preventing them from peomulgating imbecilic policies.
Andy,
No we don’t have only 12 years to live nor will there be any climate catastrophes before or after 2030.
My authority is Dr. Myles Allen, Lead Author of the IPCC –
“Why protestors should be wary of ‘12 years to climate breakdown’ rhetoric”, The Conversation, 19 April, 2019, republished in The Guardian.
Doesn’t the climate break down every morning when the sun hits it, then it reconstructs itself? And it’s done that billions of times? And it will do so again today?
Let me know the conditions in which it won’t!..Meanwhile, y’all have a good day!
Fabulous. Just fabulous. Well-researched, documented and argued. Thank you
LearDog, Thanks!
Nice post, Andy May!
One problem… You can’t educate and convince irrational, emotional ‘AOC’ style idiots using hard data and verifiable science. They ‘know’ better, from their non-science and fact free perspective. It would be easier to teach a walrus to ride a bicycle. Much easier…..
Spot on.
There is just no point in trying to “remedy” people who are suffering from a cult mentality.
It is said that humans have a herd instinct, and go mad in crowds, but “recover” one at a time.
This current cult mentality (AGW) could take a while to pass this time – (un)socia media, and all that.
Actually, “their” message has been, and continues to be, we have X years before it will be too late to avoid whatever we are encouraged to fear. I’ve been hearing this crap about one thing or another since Erlich’s population bomb in the 60s and “they” just continue to move the drop dead date as people continue to ignore “their” attempts to acquire wealth and power.
How many times have Prince Chuck, AGore and the rest of “them” readjusted “their” prognostication? But like Erlich and the ozone layer, acid rain, polar bears … “they” will claim that doomsday has been avoided because of “their” activism.
The problem really lies with the media and their refusal to report empirical truths (about anything). The media, like politicians, need our fear to maintain their power.
Czechlist – February 23, 2020 at 3:00 pm
But, but, ….. Czechlist, …… the Christian church has been touting that same message for 2,000+ years.
Its tuff to compete with “fear & ignorance”.
Who sells you what?
Would you buy cash on the spot a full price Rolex or a brand new driven only to church Benz from a guy that hangs by the fried chicken stand ?
Would you enlist in a “get rich in a week” internet school of business?
So then why should you buy “scientific facts” that even eminent scholars can not defend from celebrities whose mains business is public relations ?
It’s all a question of common sense and it’s short supply for some.
Thank you, Andy May. Well done.
Regards,
Bob
Thanks Bob
WG1 AR5 says more than half of the warming since 1850 is due to human activities …
Andy, should that read 1950 instead of 1850?
Correct, I’ll fix it.
Fonzie, I fixed it, thanks.
What if we get a Lake Toba like supervolcano eruption in Yellowstone in the next 10 years? It COULD happen. Is it likely to happen? Probably as likely as any of the other Global Climate change “coulds”. I see that Price Harry has just bought a $7 million estate in Malibu. Hasn’t Prince Charles told him about the coming catastrophic rise in sea level?
Seems there is a major disconnect between what people say and what people do.
Except for the beach front homes, Malibu is fairly high above sea level.
Most of Southern California has a fairly sharp rise in elevation just inland of the beach. Large section have a steep and high cliff that fronts the beach, while in other places it is more of a bluff and then a steep incline.
Besides, California has a coastline of emergence. That is why it has that topography to begin with.
Not much SLR there.
The alarmism is nonsensical blather when viewed in juxtaposition to actual reality.
Unless it is directly on the beach, the odds are close to 100% that it will be destroyed in an earthquake or by fire long before the ocean ever touches the property…which will probably be never.
And if it is on the beach, erosion, landslides, or flooding during a storm will be the dangers…not inches per century sea level changes.
Since I live just 60 miles from the crater’s rim, a Yellowstone eruption is one of the few situations that will cause my personal climate to break down! Hopefully, I’l be gone before that happens!
“This calculation needs to be done at some chosen future date, the date should be far enough in the future that some positive costs could occur, but not so far in the future as to invalidate our climate and economic projections.”
Dr. Mototaka Nakamura, an expert in meteorological modeling, says” It is a delusion to believe that simulation models that lack important nonlinear processes in the real climate system can predict the sense or direction of the climate change correctly.”
As cogent and well written as this post is I have to agree with Dr. Nakamura and Pat Frank who told us the models tell us nothing about the future. If the model simulated future plays out like these models think is possible, Andy’s analysis is as good as they come.
To the climate protesters who say we have only 12 years left to live, I say, “Don’t worry, you’ll still be collecting your welfare check long after 12 years have passed.”
AOC later said it was not to be taken literally and that she can’t believe anyone took her seriously…
https://freebeacon.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-walks-back-claim-on-world-ending-in-12-years/
Since then she has been more likely to reiterate her original BS than to strike a more moderate tone.
In other news, since she discovered this past Summer that plants grow out of dirt, she has wondered why the U.S. is so racist when it comes to agriculture, lamenting how we grow so little plantain, manioc, and such, due to every being a bunch of racisses’.
I am hoping she finds out why at some point.
..and that is exactly why I believe AOC is a capital T shy of a full TACO!
With any luck, she won’t be returning to Congress!
Michael, I don’t take her seriously and I hope no one else does!
Paraphrasing Michael Mann slightly, I intentionally tried to caricature the left’s concern about climate change.
His original quote: “to intentionally try to caricature the concern about climate change.”
from here: https://insideclimatenews.org/news/27082019/12-years-climate-change-explained-ipcc-science-solutions
AOC should try holding her breath until it happens. I have looked at some of the data, a 0.2 degree Celsius temperature rise since the start of the Industrial Revolution does not make a climate catastrophe. This prediction is just as unlikely as the previous 12 and 10 years predictions that have come and gone of which there have been many.
Even if man-made climate change was twice as bad as the alarmists claim, liberalism would still be far more dangerous and destructive.
+10!
I’m just sayin …. I wish articles here would stop referencing the out of date spaghetti graph that stops in 2015. We have at least three more years of complete data. Granted, the data is probably crap, just like all the rest of it, but at least it is data.
it is essential to remember that the climate change movement has nothing to do with the climate they are not interested in the temperature or CO2 or sea level rise they are interested in implementing their One World communist government nothing else. They intend to do this by destroying the economies of the Western world. Then proposing radical Solutions which always lead to communism.
What do all these “deadlines’ have in common?
They are never reached.
There is always time to “ACT” if we just give them the power and authority to do so .
NOW! Before it’s too late!
Claimed “Tipping Points” that have passed? The science was settled then. We’ve learned more since then.
“Political Science’ won’t doom the planet (cue George Carlin) but it will make life a living hell for the rest of us.
Whatever your views on climate change, a problem or a hoax, none of these statements say the world is going to end in 12 years. They state that if nothing is done by twelve years, the changes will be irreversible, and /or the world will end sometime after that. I take ‘the world’ to mean the world as we know it, not that the planet is going to disappear from the universe.
I do wish that climate sceptics stopped behaving just like climate warmist – over-exaggerating.
‘The world is going to end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change,’ Ocasio-Cortez says
– usatoday.com
However, these absurd statements are not supported by even the most fanatical climate alarmists
– wattsupwiththat.com
“we only have 12 years to stop catastrophic climate change and our understanding that we have entered the 6th mass extinction event” (their bold) – Extinction Rebellion. They make no attempt whatsoever to prevent the impression being taken up by many vulnerable young people that the extinction event is in 12 years time.
Tom Foley,
AOC said exactly that, here is her full quote (I abbreviated it in the post): “Millennials and Gen Z and all these folks that come after us are looking up, and we’re like, ‘The world is going to end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change, and your biggest issue is how are we gonna pay for it?’ ”
I don’t take her seriously and I hope no one else does!
Paraphrasing Michael Mann slightly, I intentionally tried to caricature the left’s concern about climate change. I other words, the title is partially a joke to ridicule the left. But, it also is partly serious, because a member of the U.S. House of Representatives actually said that, intentionally or not.
His original quote: “to intentionally try to caricature the concern about climate change.”
from here: https://insideclimatenews.org/news/27082019/12-years-climate-change-explained-ipcc-science-solutions