The mad rush to electric vehicles

Will this be another disaster for consumers?

Duggan Flanakin

Tesla’s stock market value is already bigger than Ford and General Motors combined, says a report in Forbes magazine. Elon Musk’s company had already received nearly $5 billion in federal subsidies by 2015, helping him amass a net worth of $31 billion. Who says government cannot make anyone rich?

But hold on. An ascendant Bernie Sanders has called for a massive expansion of government-run electricity production. He claims to be no friend of billionaires and is running against multiple billionaires, including two Democrat candidates and 23 contributors to Mayor Pete’s campaign.

But he sure is helping the rich. Sanders and many other politicos have championed a multi-state effort to end the sale of vehicles with internal combustion (IC) engines. So have several European nations. Related goals include phasing out coal, oil and natural gas for heating, electric power generation and other uses.

As Politico reports, a major part of Sanders’ $16 trillion Greener New Deal allocates massive new funding for the four existing “power marketing administrations” that are overseen by the Department of Energy, Tennessee Valley Authority and a new federal agency. The money would go to vastly expand their solar, wind and even geothermal power production.

Matt Palumbo, writing in the Bongino Report, says the Sanders plan will need $2 trillion just for infrastructure, dwarfing the cost of the interstate highway system, to add 800 gigawatts of intermittent, weather-dependent wind and solar energy. Right now Sanders insists that he is not “nationalizing” energy production, but merely providing wholesale energy to public and private local suppliers. However, these subsidized government-run facilities will surely control the energy market. That looks like nationalization in all but official nomenclature.

Private companies that now rely on coal or natural gas will be further squeezed by mandated deep cuts in CO2 emissions. Meanwhile, energy demand for a mandated and growing fleet of electric vehicles will soar, requiring still more wind turbines, solar panels, backup batteries, transmission lines, and (as I note in a recent article about electric buses) metals, minerals and mining demands on unprecedented scales – coupled with rampant environmental destruction, child labor, and horrific increases in cancer and other diseases from the absence of workplace safety and pollution control standards.

Americans have expressed great displeasure over subsidizing EVs for the wealthy, a recent American Energy Alliance poll found. Only one in five voters would trust the federal government to make decisions about what kinds of cars should be subsidized – or mandated. Many do not even like, or cannot afford, the innovations already introduced for internal combustion vehicles, as evidenced by data showing that the average age of the U.S. vehicle fleet has increased in recent years.

Who can blame them for being angry? Wealthy EV buyers can get $7500 federal and up to $2500 state tax credits (not just deductions), free or low-cost charging at stations installed at taxpayer and electricity consumer cost, and access to HOV lanes even with no passengers. EV drivers pay no gasoline tax, and thus pay nothing for road construction, repair and maintenance. And as states “go green” and eliminate fossil fuel and nuclear power, average Americans will have to endure the eyesores, noise, habitat destruction and wildlife losses that will come with millions more wind turbines and solar panels.

Nevertheless, despite public qualms, most automakers have joined the EV movement. Like gossip in a small town, proposals and promises to ban or end production of IC engines have spread like wildfire. The Chinese-owned Swedish automaker Volvo announced in 2017 it would stop designing new IC engines. German giant Daimler (Mercedes Benz) followed suit last year. And in the United States, General Motors in 2018 announced plans to offer only battery-powered or hydrogen-powered vehicles in the near future.

These automakers are perhaps just responding to the political climate in Europe. The United Kingdom just moved up its cutoff date for banning sales of new IC vehicles to 2035. The UK ban would even include hybrids! France and other countries are holding to a 2040 date for mandating all-electric fleets, while Norway has set a goal (not a mandate) to eliminate most IC engines (but not hybrids) by 2025. But amazingly California lawmakers actually killed a 2018 effort to ban IC engines by 2040.

Meanwhile, European automakers have moved to profit from EV charging stations. IONITY (created in 2017 as a joint venture between the BMW Group, Mercedes-Benz AG, the Ford Motor Company, and the Volkswagen Group with Audi and Porcshe) has already built over 200 facilities with over 860 charging points. It plans to expand to 400 facilities in 24 countries by yearend 2020. And IONITY is not alone.

Europe today still has over 100,000 petrol and diesel fueling stations, certain to shrink as IC engines are now pariahs. But how do Europeans plan to charge all the electric cars, trucks and buses, if they must rely entirely on intermittent, unreliable, weather-dependent, super expensive wind and solar electricity?

Before February 2020, IONITY was charging a flat, fixed rate of eight Euros (about $8.87) for a fast charging session. That was less than 15 cents per kilowatt-hour for a 60-kW charge that might be good for 210 miles – on a continent where electricity prices are already 25 to 45 cents per kWh. With EU gasoline prices ranging from 1.77 euros/liter ($7.35 per gallon) in the Netherlands to $4.41/gallon in Romania, drivers would need about $31 in Romania or $51 in the Netherlands to drive the same distance (assuming 30 mpg), even at these incredible (and unsustainable) bargain basement electricity prices.

But as of February 1, IONITY switched to unit pricing at a rate of 0.79 euro/kWh (88 cents/kWh), or about $52.80 for a 60-kW charge. That’s a 500% increase in the cost of charging your car, just to travel a couple hundred miles. Suddenly, an EV charge is a whole lot more expensive than a fill-up.

So IONITY is offering discounts that customers can purchase from IONITY partner companies. At home chargers in the EU cost about $18 per 60-kW charge, plus about $1,000 for installation. That’s at the average EU residential rate of 30 cents/kWh (twice the current U.S. average). And that’s before the mad rush to electric cars, trucks and buses – and the mad rush to expensive “renewable” energy.

How will poor and working classes afford this, especially people who must drive to work or must use trucks in their small businesses? Who will subsidize their soaring costs – the EU’s increasingly stretched and impoverished middle class? Its millionaires and billionaires?

Here’s the rub for Americans. If Sanders gets his way, the federal government will control the price and availability of electricity in the USA. California, which wants to mandate EVs only, has already faced multi-day electricity blackouts due to fire concerns, and if there’s no power there’s no charging. Many other countries also lack reliable electric power – and increasing electricity scarcity (almost certain in a fossil fuel-free environment) drives up prices even in government-controlled marketplaces.

After the 1970s oil embargo, the United States opted for a broad-based energy sector, so that shortages in one fuel would not cripple the national economy. But today, many cities have already moved to ban oil, coal and natural gas, nuclear is still taboo, and wind and solar are intermittent. The push toward an all-electric society – plus heavy and rising burdens on the power grid from intermittent power generations and charging all-electric vehicles – looks like a recipe for disaster, at least for the average consumer.

The well-connected always do well enough in controlled economies – at least until government policies send energy prices soaring, and send angry poor and working class protesters into the streets, to rage and rampage, as has happened in Iran, France and Chile.

But what can a We the Governed do but submit to the will of the all-powerful state envisioned by Sanders and his fellow Democrat presidential wannabes? They’re all insulated by their wealth and positions from the impacts of their policies. But what about the rest of us? State and federal ruling classes might be surprised at how liberty and opportunity-loving Americans respond.

Duggan Flanakin is director of policy research for the Committee For A Constructive Tomorrow (CFACT).

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February 22, 2020 12:25 pm

Regarding Battery Electric Vehicles vs Light duty vehicles (ICE):
Here’s a MIT Nov 2019 report on non-truck vehicle comparisons [BEV, PHEV, FCEV vs ICE]:
Bottom line – BEV (without subsidies & assumes no battery replacement) are not cost effective vs ICE and likely won’t be for ~10 yrs. It uses full life-cycle analysis: from mining the ore to recycling the car.
https://energy.mit.edu/insightsintofuturemobility
As to recharging, here in Phoenix,AZ area the Teslas had several hour waits for charging stations over the Thanksgiving holiday drive. I think the word is schadenfreude, but they get the last laugh since, no gas tax, no license tax and can drive solo in the high occupancy lane.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Bill Zipperer
February 23, 2020 8:14 am

I don’t think they get the last laugh. I’ll trade gas and license taxes and the need for one passenger for HOV lane privileges over waiting several hours to “refuel” any time.

Orville
February 22, 2020 1:28 pm

I suspect that the electrical auto industry will eventually collapse like the Dutch Tulip Market Crash. When the costs of replacing batteries comes into play, the wealthy will simply get a newer model. I wouldn’t buy a used electric vehicle unless it had a new battery, methinks, so the resale value could shrink in the used car markets. Then there will likely be govenrnment regulations, fees and fines, forcing used car owners to recycle the batteries. Electric vehicles do not seem to me to be the long term saviors of job markets or the used car dealerships. Internal combustion engines will likely do well on the resale market especially when things turn cold every winter and solar power panels are covered in snow and/or the windmills are put into a parked position during strong windstorms. With the price of oil going down and the cost of electricity going up, I’m speculating that the tulip market might also deflate rapidly.

sendergreen
Reply to  Orville
February 22, 2020 2:09 pm

We will likely hear of the benefits of a future car/vehicle battery recycle, but it is virtually guaranteed to be a sewage show. May big cities signed on to recycling home and business waste years ago through profit promises, but the service prices increased, the recyclers range of acceptable materials shrunk, and what was once a money making tool has become a net cost item passed on to taxpayers.

Battery recycling will be much, much worse. Drivers will be low-balled on cost estimates, both by sellers, and by the same people who brought us fake CO2 global warming in the first place. Government, and media. You will not be allowed to buy a new battery without providing and paying for recycling of an old battery. Costs of which will be punishing, far above initial promises. Black markets will develop, and old batteries, or their contents will be discarded in poisonously decrepid ways. The outcome will be magnitudes of more environmental damage than fossil fuels could ever do. All absolutely predictable.

MarkG
Reply to  sendergreen
February 22, 2020 7:53 pm

There was a new story a few months ago about a guy who crashed his Tesla and is still stuck with the scrap vehicle because he couldn’t find anyone who would take it off his hands. He said no scrap-yard wanted it, because it was too difficult to process thanks to the environmental regulations and the risk of fire from a damaged battery.

I think it was Germany, but I don’t remember for sure.

PaulH
February 22, 2020 1:39 pm

The crony capitalists are pilling on:

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2020/02/18/tesla-bull-cathie-wood-stock-price-target-squawk-box.html

This stock market analyst predicts on CNBC that Tesla’s stock price will hit $7,000 (currently a mere $900) because internal combustion engines will be outlawed, or something.

John Hardy
February 22, 2020 2:05 pm

“The push toward an all-electric society – plus heavy and rising burdens on the power grid from intermittent power generations and charging all-electric vehicles – looks like a recipe for disaster, at least for the average consumer.”

I agree. I am an EV enthusiast but not an enthusat for government interfering in what people can buy.

But as for the rest of the article , I’d suggest that the author go and drive a good EV. Better yet borrow one and drive it for a week. And then do some research. The standard anti-EV arguments are getting a bit thin

MarkW
Reply to  John Hardy
February 22, 2020 3:18 pm

Truth is just so irritating.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  John Hardy
February 22, 2020 3:59 pm

I don’t know anyone in Australia who has an up to AU$92k Tesla 3 car let alone willing to lend it to me for a week.

Editor
Reply to  John Hardy
February 23, 2020 2:34 am

I am enthusiastically in favour of EVs that are taxed the same amount as other vehicles, (non-)subsidised the same amount as other vehicles, and subject to the same regulations as other vehicles. If or when their time comes they will dominate and the world will be better for it. If their time never comes, well that’s real life, and I suspect that no-one can predict what will take their place – or rather, the place they never had.

Trafamadore
February 22, 2020 3:24 pm

“How will poor and working classes afford this”

They will buy used EVs. Duh.

Ian Coleman
February 22, 2020 4:29 pm

Mr. Hardy, the anti-EV argument that resonates right now is that very few people can afford to buy an EV. You may be in a position to consider that argument thin, but that would make you a member of a small minority. “Drive a good EV”? That’s like telling someone to drive a good Lamborghini. It doesn’t matter how good it is if you can’t afford it.

And Mr. Hardy, Tesla loses money. What about those two profitable quarters that Tesla has claimed? I am guessing here, but I suspect that they were claiming the deposits on undelivered cars as income. A thousand dollar deposit on a Tesla Mode 3 is not income. It is debt. The thousand dollars paid by a customer buys an obligation for Tesla to supply him with a functioning car with a retail price of $35,000. That is not only a debt, it may be an unpayable debt that the customer will be forced to forgive.

lee Riffee
February 22, 2020 6:35 pm

If these ICE vehicle bans ever come to pass, IMO a pretty significant market in rebuilding and refurbishing ICE vehicles will be created. People will keep their cars and trucks running for far longer if there are no new replacements to be had. And more than a few electric cars will simply take up space in dealer lots, unwanted and unsold.

February 22, 2020 6:37 pm

John Hardy:
I agree that driving a Tesla would be fun. Everyone I’ve been in was very nice. But affordability is the issue. Even the range issue is not a deal breaker for me (since its > 300 miles).
Pricing a new 2020 Hybrid Sonata (~$35K) vs a USED 2019 Tesla3 (~$47) just this past month finds that I would have to drive the Tesla for ~12 years to break even [and this assumes no battery replacement & no subsidy and ignores the higher T3 insurance costs]. Up-thread is a link I found for a MIT cost comparison study of BEV vs ICE.
And by the way: I was told that Tesla is not making any of the $35k T3 cars till 2021; they are all the Long Range models going for over $50k.

William Ward
February 22, 2020 7:45 pm

EV’s are NOT THE FUTURE.

I can’t predict when, but in the future, the EV will be viewed as we now view lava lamps, mood rings, chia pets, and pyramid power. Fun fads.

There are absolutely no good reasons to drive an EV over an internal combustion engine vehicle.

Batteries:
– In most scenarios, the CO2 emitted through battery production will exceed the CO2 saved during the life of the battery.
– The mining of rare earth minerals is very destructive to the environment and the landscape.
– Disposing of or recycling dead batteries has a significant adverse environmental impact.
– The energy density of Li-ion batteries is pathetic in both MJ/L and MJ/kg.

Energy Source:
– EV’s don’t come with Electron Faeries in the trunk. Most EVs are (in reality) coal or natural gas powered unless the power source is nuclear or hydro. Even grids with solar and wind are backstopped by hydrocarbon sources from nearby grids with enough reserve to cover the unreliable sources.
– In the US, annual energy usage in the transportation sector is close to that of the electric grid. The grid would have to be increased in size significantly to handle the load, and charging off-peak will only address some of that. Even less so as more unreliable sources are forced onto the grid.
– There are 168,000 gas stations in the US, with an average of 10 pumps per station, for a total of nearly 1.7M pumps. A gas tank can be filled in 3 minutes. EVs need 30-60 minutes with a rapid charger, but most likely many hours. Millions of charging stations will need to be added.

The future:
– Liquid Fluoride Thorium/Molten Salt/Small Modular Reactors are coming. They will be safe, environmentally friendly, cost-effective, and perfect for replacing current electric generating plants.
– They run best at full capacity. Excess capacity during off-peak times can be used to power fuel factories that can create carbon-neutral fuels from seawater or the air. Liquid fuels are energy-dense. We have the infrastructure to make them, transport them, store them, and dispense them. Why reinvent the wheel. (Although less energy-dense, nitrogen-neutral fuels made and used alternatively.)
– There are still significant potential advancements in the efficiency of internal combustion engines (HCCI, opposed-piston engines, variable compression, etc.). We currently optimize for HP/performance, but if necessary, there is still much that can be done to minimize combustion byproducts.

EVs are bad for the environment, have no beneficial impact on the climate, and will not be a big part of our future.

observa
February 22, 2020 8:16 pm

It’s like this in Oz with our new car sales travelling around the 1 million plus sales for a number of years although sales have fallen back in tougher times in the last 12 months. What the Carsales website shows anytime is around 200k new and used cars for sale at any one time and playing around with front page numbers and prices you’ll work out $25k AUD is the median asking price and kick that up to $50k and over when the cheapest EV is $50k and you’re only appealing to 18% of the market. However that includes the major biz seller in dual cab utes (pickup trucks to you) and recent stats shows nearly 88% of new car buyers purchase on finance around half dealer and half BYO.

You only have to do the sums on the difference in price between say buying a Korean or Japanese runabout for $25k vs a similar size EV more than double that and the interest alone floors any savings in power vs fuel and you’ve got to pay off the capital. Elon’s not stupid and knows where his bread’s buttered with a standard range Model 3 in Oz kicking off at $75k and no well heeled half baked climate changer is going to buy a Renault Zoe for $50k or a Hyundai Kona for $65k when they can have a Tesla badge to swan around in for a bit more chump change. Meanwhile Toyota are backing hybrids for the deplorables to assuage the climate changers for the time being with their emissions controls trying to drive the ICE off the roads by stealth.

Tom Abbott
February 22, 2020 9:13 pm

From the article: “But amazingly California lawmakers actually killed a 2018 effort to ban IC engines by 2040.”

That doesn’t surprise me. I don’t think banning the internal combustion engine in the United States will *ever* fly. Americans love their cars and the independence it gives them and they are not going to give them up.

You couldn’t have a better example than California. If anyone would pass a ban in ICE cars it would be California, but as you see, even Calfironia politicians are not brave enough to support such a proposal.

Europe may give up their ICE cars, but the United States is not going to follow suit.

Trying to force electric cars down our throats before the time is right is insanity. Fear of CO2 has driven these people mad, to the point they are destroying their nations and their futures with counterproductive actions based on nothing but delusions about CO2.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 23, 2020 8:37 am

Trying to force electric cars down our throats before the time is right

So, never then.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  AGW is Not Science
February 23, 2020 9:49 am

“So, never then.”

Well, I don’t know. I suppose there might come a time when electric vehicles become widespread, but it’s not right around the corner, and I think governments that try to force this change are creating a whole lot of problems for themselves. Big, unnecessary problems for themselves, like destroying their automobile markets among other things.

CO2 fear seems to blind them to these possible consequences, or causes them to be disregarded.

What is really sad and unbelievable is that none of these alarmists can prove CO2 is in any way harmful to our futures. They are going off half-cocked in an effort to reduce CO2 and are taking actions that are counterproductive for no reason they can demonstrate. They say: Trust us.” Well, who are they trusting? We know who: A bunch of human-caused climate change charlatans who have been distorting the truth for decades. Alarmists are trying to create a future based on Lies.

sendergreen
Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 23, 2020 1:37 pm

I do have favorite electric vehicles.
The indoor elevator.
And, it’s cousin the escalator.
Anything with wheels should be gas or diesel powered.

Jim
February 23, 2020 2:32 am

We do not have the power plants or infrastructure to support all electric vehicles in the USA. Better off getting a horse.

niceguy
February 23, 2020 4:06 am

For quite a long time, the hidden assumption was that the ecoloons were going to be cucked with only lip service being given to their loony ideas.

Right now, we see that the demented ideas are coming closer. Decades after endorsing lunacies, the “mainstream” have validated greens. Young people can point to the hypocrisy of “adults” who officially endorse green ideas (even though they are silly) and never truly apply these in all their strength.

Geoff Sherrington
February 23, 2020 2:21 pm

Many bloggers here on WUWT must be thirsting for the real answer to this simple question, “This EV or nothing proposal is stupid, it takes no skill or training to know it is stupid – but why are so many governments and their leaders endorsing it?”
I cannot understand smart people like the UK PM backing this. What is the benefit from endorsing stupid?
Is there a toxin in the drinking water?

Paul Penrose
February 23, 2020 3:53 pm

I stopped reading at “Elon Musk’s company had already received nearly $5 billion in federal subsidies by 2015,…” That is an outright lie. Tesla’s customers have indeed received tax credits for the vehicles they bought, just as all EV customers have, regardless of manufacturer. I’m not a fan of these credits, nor of Tesla, but starting off your article with a lie is not a good look.

William Ward
Reply to  Paul Penrose
February 23, 2020 9:41 pm

Paul Penrose,

Why do you believe the comment that “Musk’s company had already received nearly $5B in federal subsidies” is a lie?

Refer to this article: https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-musk-subsidies-20150531-story.html

I think it is more correct to say that Musk’s companies (plural) meaning (Tesla, Solar City and Space X) have received nearly $4.9B in government (federal or state not delineated) subsidies. This would appear to be in addition to EV tax credits given to the consumer (and therefore essentially given to Musk’s companies).

Paul Penrose
Reply to  William Ward
February 24, 2020 10:12 am

The LA Times, really? That’s all you’ve got? They call the contracts with NASA that SpaceX received “subsidies” just because NASA is a government agency. What nonsense. NASA paid for, and received, the products and services they required. The LA Times also labels the oil purchases that the government makes to maintain the strategic reserve “subsidies” to the oil companies. More nonsense. They have no credibility and wouldn’t know a real subsidy if it hit them in the face.

William Ward
Reply to  Paul Penrose
February 24, 2020 11:10 am

Paul Penrose,

You know there is an abundance of sources reporting on the “subsidies” Musk’s companies have received. I’m not opposed to the spirit of your analysis about the “subsidies,” but I disagree with you calling the report a “lie.” You can make the case that governments invest in what our elected representatives believe is good for the country – and this is valid – but these “investments” are also abused to promote political agendas. The lie is that there is a climate crisis. The lie is that CO2 is a problem for the climate. The lie is that EVs help to solve that crisis. The lie is that we can “invest” our way into a world where EVs replace ICEVs and reduce CO2. From some of your other comments, I suspect we may not be in large disagreement on this. While I appreciate your desire for accurate reporting and more details about what those “subsidies” from the government were – or how they should be classified – I think bemoaning the statement you identified as a “lie” is missing the key point. Our disagreement is limited to that.

I’m particularly fond of criticism of Musk, a supposed engineer. If you study his Hyperloop design ideas you quickly learn that he has no grounding in reality – and a poor understanding of physics. His stated purpose for Space X is to colonize Mars – a completely ridiculous idea that will never happen. If we want to live somewhere where we will die if we leave the confines of our containment structure, then we should just colonize the bottom of the ocean. It doesn’t require traveling 5-years round trip in a tomatoe-can. And his Tesla automobiles exploit the government-funded mass delusion about a climate crisis. There are many other industries that receive government funding that I don’t approve of, but Musk is such a manipulative weasel that I’m willing to give someone a pass when they don’t give me a full balance sheet of just how he is ripping off taxpayers when they criticize his business activities. Without the government funding – no matter what you call it – we wouldn’t know Musk’s name. (PayPal isn’t sexy enough to care about who created it.)

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