Amazon Employees for Climate Justice Demand Jeff Bezos Cancel Fossil Fuel Contracts

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

As well as selling stuff, Amazon is a major player in the cloud computing market. They help clients eliminate the hassle of managing their own computer hardware.

This hard won reputation for quiet, non-judgemental and reliable service is now under threat, from employees who demand Amazon apply a climate morality test to people with whom Amazon does business.

Hundreds of Amazon employees put jobs at risk by criticizing firm’s climate change policy

Hundreds of employees published comments highlighting the company’s work with oil and gas companies

By James Vincent  Jan 27, 2020, 8:44am EST

Hundreds of Amazon workers are speaking out against their employer’s record on climate change, risking being fired to defy a company-wide ban against such public criticism. 

The group Amazon Employees for Climate Justice published comments from 357 workers on Sunday, many of which highlight what workers see as Amazon’s hypocrisy. The company has pledged to use only renewable energy sources in the future and cut its carbon emissions, but it continues to work with and improve the businesses of oil and gas companies. 

“The science on climate change is clear,” writes Amelia Graham-McCann, a senior business analyst at the company. “It is unconscionable for Amazon to continue helping the oil and gas industry extract fossil fuels while trying to silence employees who speak out.” 

“I want Amazon to continue its vision to be Earth’s most customer-centric company,” writes Melissa Reeder, a senior UX designer. “By ending our contracts with oil and gas companies, we can show the world we put people over profits and be a leader against climate change.”

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I cannot emphasise how potentially damaging this employee protest movement is to Amazon’s reputation.

Handing another company the task of maintaining key internal computer infrastructure is an enormous act of trust. Amazon has been tremendously successful in convincing large numbers of companies that there is no downside to letting Amazon handle their computer hardware, letting Amazon’s clients focus on getting the software right.

If companies now have to start worrying about whether their most sensitive infrastructure could be threatened at any time, by activist Amazon employees who take a sudden dislike to their business, Amazon’s entire cloud computing business model could collapse.

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Ralph Knapp
January 28, 2020 10:09 am

They should be terminated forthwith, with cause!!!! If you do not like the way the company is operated, put your resumes out, find a new job and resign.

Dr Deanster
Reply to  Ralph Knapp
January 28, 2020 1:10 pm

I agree. Amazon should fire all 357 of them for the purpose of making an example out of them. It’s their right to hold whatever opinion they want to, but they CANNOT be allowed to organize under the banner of Amazon with an opinion that threatens key business interest of Amazon. Go join the Sierra Club or Greenpeace, or start your own organization with no reference to Amazon.

It wasn’t until I got to the bottom of the article that this post even became worth reading. A customer worried about internal climate zealots sabotaging your business puts Amazon in a very precarious position.

Bill Powers
Reply to  Dr Deanster
January 28, 2020 2:22 pm

This generation has been miseducated. The process of miseducating has been accelerating since the takeover of College Campuses in the 60s. Baby Boomer, to genX, to Millennials, To GenYnee snowflake.

This miseducation is leading dumb to dumber to the point where soon we will have achieved GeNStupid or more appropriately Moronicals and “Idiocracy” will be viewed as a historical documentary.

Reply to  Bill Powers
January 29, 2020 1:02 am

“This miseducation is leading dumb to dumber” and remember that a simple incontrovertible mathematical fact is that 50% of people you meet are of below average intelligence.

Reply to  jon2009
January 29, 2020 8:37 am

Please don’t misuse statistics!!!!! Enough climate freaks do so everyday.
For practical purposes an IQ of about 80 is the lower limit for most jobs. That’s what the military demands. For quite a few simpler jobs you might go down to 70 or so. Much below that and a person needs generally unworkable amounts of training and supervision, but can do productive work in the right setting.

About 66% of the people you meet are of average intelligence. 1-2% are either so smart or so unsmart you’d have a hard time communicating with them about anything more than the weather today.

Reply to  jon2009
January 29, 2020 12:51 pm

“Please don’t misuse statistics!!!!! Enough climate freaks do so everyday.”

Jon2009 was making a joke… it’s a George Carlin reference.

“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”

― George Carlin

Reply to  Dr Deanster
January 28, 2020 2:37 pm

Terminate , with prejudice !

“The science on climate change is clear,” writes Amelia Graham-McCann, a senior business analyst at the company.

Senior business analyst who has not analysed the business implications of her ignorant alarmist wailing. Clearly not competent at her job.

Between 1.5 and 4.5 deg C per doubling. ie it’s either mildly beneficial or a problem. “The science” is not that clear at all. Even according to the IPCC.

Reply to  Greg
January 28, 2020 8:27 pm

Agreed, Greg!

“I want Amazon to continue its vision to be Earth’s most customer-centric company,” writes Melissa Reeder, a senior UX designer. “By ending our contracts with oil and gas companies, we can show the world we put people over profits and be a leader against climate change.”

An amazing display of illogic and ignorance by a person whose occupation depends entirely upon the fossil fuel industry.
Whereas her belief that to be “customer-centric” means condemning those customers to stone age conditions and slavery.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Greg
January 29, 2020 7:13 am

“Between 1.5 and 4.5 deg C per doubling.” – And THAT is nothing more than a hypothetical effect. Atmospheric CO2 level has never been empirically demonstrated to do anything to the Earth’s temperature.

Reply to  Ralph Knapp
January 28, 2020 1:25 pm

Go work for Google

Reply to  Ralph Knapp
January 29, 2020 4:29 am


January 28, 2020 10:11 am

““The science on climate change is clear,” writes Amelia Graham-McCann, a senior business analyst at the company.”

Should be fired for intellectual and subject matter incompetence, immediately.

Bill Powers
Reply to  peyelut
January 28, 2020 2:06 pm

You mean because she’s an idiot?

They don’t think it is constitutional to be fired. And they know this because they graduated from college.

Geo Rubik
Reply to  Bill Powers
January 29, 2020 10:51 am

In most states employees are considered “workers at will”. Unless covered by contract provisions they can be terminated for any reason or no reason. The NLRB will side with the company in most cases.

Curious George
January 28, 2020 10:12 am

Why doesn’t Amazon only use wind-powered delivery vehicles?

Reply to  Curious George
January 28, 2020 11:53 am

Not a wind turbine gauntlet nor a solar panel blight nor another shared/shifted mass environmental infringement, but rather high energy to mass sources, which are quickly replenished for sustainable performance. Bezos is not a bozo.

ray boorman
Reply to  Curious George
January 28, 2020 6:03 pm

Probably because climate alarmists & Democrats are all huff, but very little puff, George.

As an aside, I heard that 10’s of thousands of people working for Amazon’s cloud computing operation are extremely fit. Their job is to pedal furiously on exercise bikes 8 hrs a day, supplying the electricity which keeps the computers humming. When the humans finish their shift, a billion hamsters take over, spinning their treadmills till they are exhausted.

Maybe Amazon can capture all that hot air, plus that generated by the warehouses full of computers, to achieve carbon neutrality by releasing the hot air to power land yacht’s?

Bryan A
January 28, 2020 10:14 am

“I want Amazon to continue its vision to be Earth’s most customer-centric company,” writes Melissa Reeder, a senior UX designer. “By ending our contracts with oil and gas companies, we can show the world we put people over profits and be a leader against climate change.”

Melissa Reader apparently wants Amazon to be the Most customer-centric Company except for those customers with whom she finds less desirable.

Greg Cavanagh
Reply to  Bryan A
January 28, 2020 1:17 pm

It’s curious that she doesn’t see any connections between the oil company that employs thousands of “people”, who have thousands more friends, family and relations, and who live in a town with MORE people that enjoy the wealth generated by oil companies. So yea, bad mouth one large company and you upset perhaps a million people. Nice going Melissa.

Reply to  Greg Cavanagh
January 28, 2020 2:28 pm

Some of those people are customers too.

January 28, 2020 10:14 am

So shut the whole company down, fire all its staff, let millions loose stocks, and let the independent delivery drivers loose there jobs 😐

Wind and solar is unreliable, batteries are a con as the unbelievable amount of batteries needed to power one amazon depo would take the 40+ thousand slave Congolese children years upon years to mine the calbolt needed….

Does every green have this one sentence remembered of by heart???

The science on climate change is clear,” 😐

writes Amelia Graham-McCann, a senior business analyst at the company

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Sunny
January 28, 2020 10:22 am

“let millions loose stocks”

I hate loose stocks, makes it difficult to shoot.

Lee L
Reply to  Sunny
January 28, 2020 10:30 am

“The science on climate change is clear,”

And how many of them have ever READ a ‘peer reviewed’, genuine climate science paper. Or perhaps the better question is to ask how many actually CAN read the papers in the subect area.

Reply to  Lee L
January 28, 2020 11:50 am

“Peer” review doesn’t mean much if your peers are Mikey and David Suzuki. Ask Judith Curry what she thinks about peer-reviewed articles.

Reply to  Lee L
January 28, 2020 1:08 pm

That depends on the meaning of “clear”. Clear as in “don’t you dare disagree or else”, yes. Clear as in it’s impossible to predict the future with probability models, yes. Clear as in we are all toast if these fools ever win, yes. I’m not sure which was being referred to here. Probably #2.

Reply to  Lee L
January 28, 2020 1:54 pm

The problem is the ones with the real story in them come from the pure science disciplines of geology, physics, biology, meteorology and so forth. Climate science papers for the most part deal with predictive modelling and contain no testable hypotheses or methods. There is not much specialist knowledge needed to read them. A working knowledge of data analysis and statistics is probably enough for most. To do real in-depth checking you would need access to their data sets, algorithms and be competent with scripting functions in fortran or whatever tools were used to build and run their models. It’s out of reach of most to be able to do that and as I’ve found, mostly the data is not available and the models and algorithms are tightly protected intellectual property and not available for scrutiny.

Steve Z
January 28, 2020 10:19 am

Amazon makes its money by taking online orders and shipping products from its warehouses to its customers, mostly by truck or train. Without burning fossil fuels, all that shipping comes to a screeching halt, as does Amazon’s business.

Even if 357 employees quit Amazon, that represents only about 0.05% of the total Amazon workforce.

Bezos should just tell them not to let the door hit them on the way out.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Steve Z
January 28, 2020 10:52 am

Not to mention the enormous emissions from all the use of Amazon’s online website and business partners. Every web search accesses a multitude of energy hungry servers, which means lots of “emissions.” Anybody as bent out of shape based on Eco-Fascist propaganda as these putzes shouldn’t have started working for a company like Amazon to begin with.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Steve Z
January 28, 2020 10:59 am

“mostly by truck or train”

I think it’s mostly by truck or plane.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
January 29, 2020 6:45 am

Probably all three, depending on the type of shipping the customer pays for. If you’re getting “ground” shipping and it travels a significant distance, the package probably makes part of its trip by rail.


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Reply to  Steve Z
January 28, 2020 11:08 am

Amazon makes more money from web services than they do in the rest of the company. The 2019 annual report is not out yet, but in 2018 operating income from AWS was $7,296M, Operating income for all of Amazon was $12,421M.

Jeff will not risk that business.

John Endicott
Reply to  Steve Z
January 28, 2020 11:54 am

Bezos should just tell them not to let the door hit them on the way out.

Bezos should tell them he’s going to help them cut back on fossil fuel emissions… by firing them, that way they’ll no longer have to worry about the fossil fuel emissions required to transport them from their homes to the workplace.

January 28, 2020 10:19 am

Make sure employee contracts are air-tight and then publicly fire a few of the most egregious protesters. Management can’t let them get away with this power grab right from the beginning if it wants to keep its customers. And customers need to make it very clear what they want. Amazon also better have tight security on who has access to customer information or it could get very ugly.

January 28, 2020 10:23 am

These people are my sworn enemies.

January 28, 2020 10:25 am

Relocate these few employees to the Alaska offices and warehouses.

Reply to  ResourceGuy
January 28, 2020 11:12 am


Reply to  ResourceGuy
January 28, 2020 12:31 pm

Boom Alaska is under climate attack and we need to boycott the entire network

Ron Long
January 28, 2020 10:27 am

“climate morality test”? This group of dribblefeisters couldn’t pass anything other than an essay on the importance of feelings in science, then only if graded by like minded gassnorkles! I can’t help but wonder what their Major was in college? Marxism?

Reply to  Ron Long
January 28, 2020 11:26 am



Haven’t sorted tea over my phone for a while but that noun ranks up there amongst Cockwombles and Wankspanners…


Reply to  AleaJactaEst
January 28, 2020 11:42 am

This is what you get when you swan around Davos, virtue-signaling about things that make you look STOOPID. You find out who the REAL stoopids are in your organization. Probably on the payroll of some astroturfing dot-org. I’d get rid of ’em, YESTERDAY.

Reply to  Ron Long
January 28, 2020 11:37 am

Dribblefeisters and gassnorkles! I am SO borrowing those right now!! Thank you for lightening my load!

David Blenkinsop
Reply to  Ron Long
January 28, 2020 9:06 pm

I see a lot of criticism of ‘woke” Amazon.employers here, and maybe they deserve to be criticised. What I notice is that their management appears to have encouraged this by pledging use of only ‘renewable” energy, etc.

It just sounds like working for this company must be some kind of Dilbert experience all around!

January 28, 2020 10:27 am

Then Amazon should not do any business with anyone who consumes fossil fuels because they are fueling the demand of the oil companies. I don’t get how the oil companies are guilty and evil but the general public consumers are innocent and not evil?

Really you should have to present you carbon footprint to Amazon to purchase anything 🙂

John Endicott
Reply to  LdB
January 28, 2020 11:58 am

And Amazon should start by firing all the rabble-rousing employees who use fossil fuels to commute to work (which I’m guessing is mostly all of them in one form or another, whether it’s directly in the gas tank of their automobile or the public transit bus or indirectly via the electricity from a coal or natural gas power plant)

Old engineer
Reply to  John Endicott
January 28, 2020 12:58 pm

Actually, from what I hear from my son who lives in the area of Amazon offices in Seattle, a large number (not sure how that works out as a percentage of employees) of their employees walk to work.

Reply to  Old engineer
January 28, 2020 2:20 pm

Do they eat bananas?

January 28, 2020 10:35 am

Wow, all 357 Amazon staff walk to and from work every day, rain, snow, shine.
Now that’s putting your feet where your mouth is.

Reply to  RobW
January 28, 2020 10:48 am

They also apparently do not use heating or air con, don’t use energy guzzling smart phones or computers and don’t take holidays to places that aren’t in cycling distance.


John Endicott
Reply to  Tonyb
January 28, 2020 12:00 pm

And don’t use anything that is made from fossil-fuel derived plastic (including smart phones and several different bicycle parts).

Reply to  John Endicott
January 28, 2020 2:48 pm

“And don’t use anything made of plastic….” Not to mention their clothes, the wiring and plumbing in their homes, the fabric and stuffing of their furniture, their cosmetics (plastic microbeads), print toner for their printers, the printers themselves, parts of every labour-saving appliance they own, the 10 reusable plastic coffee mugs that every household owns….

January 28, 2020 10:39 am

357 out of 750,000 employees. 0.046 %, about the same as our CO2 concentration….

Mumbles McGuirck
Reply to  DayHay
January 28, 2020 11:28 am

The problem is we would miss the CO2 if it were gone. These Amazon employees … not so much.

Reply to  DayHay
January 28, 2020 11:55 am

A fraction of a fraction with unpredictable… variable performance.

Craig Moore
January 28, 2020 10:42 am

Withe gun fights occuring on the streets in front of Amazon’s offices, perhaps those employees should be nudging corporate to move east across Lake Waskington.

January 28, 2020 10:46 am

Until amazon stops importing stuff from the far corners of the earth by fossil fuelled power ships and stop distributing them around every country by fossil fuelled powered trucks, their employees should cease their Astonishing hypocrisy, stop moralising and just get on with it


January 28, 2020 10:49 am

I see jet planes with that insipid Amazon smile…

January 28, 2020 10:58 am

At first blush, it is an extreme take on the situation.

On second look, it makes total sense. You know these SJW believe they live on such high ground that any action is justified, like giving your business plans, top product secrets, new research to your competitors to bankrupt you.

Shoki Kaneda
January 28, 2020 11:12 am

I guess we’ll see whether Jeff is a businessman or a Climate Justice Warrior.

January 28, 2020 11:19 am

Here’s an interesting article on the pitfalls in woke capitalism:
Note that the article is a few years old, so readers considering relying on the information it contains should, before doing so, make their own inquiries as to whether the information is current. The article is pertinent because of the concepts it discusses rather than the individual cases it considers, which, to repeat, may not be indicative of the situation today.
And next time you hear about companies using ‘electric’ trucks, remember this:
Again, the information is several years old, so the same caveat as above applies.

Reply to  BC
January 28, 2020 2:52 pm

“…and deliveries are slated to begin in 2019.”
It’s 2020 now, and no Tesla semis to be found anywhere.

January 28, 2020 11:26 am

Okay, increase my order to 200 cans of sterno and 300 butane bottles.

Remember to use the big truck for delivery.

January 28, 2020 11:36 am

If it is always true that you can follow the money, there will be a settlement in store for this group that is holding Bezos hostage. Amazon can’t divest, they cannot terminate without backlash, ergo extortion. This will be precedent setting for workforce’s everywhere.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Sideshow
January 29, 2020 7:09 am

They should accept the backlash. The political bent of their employees should not drive the company’s business, the company’s management should. And they should send a clear message that this behavior is unacceptable.

I’m pretty sure that disclosing who Amazon’s customers are violates corporate confidentiality policies, and should therefore be grounds for dismissal.

It’s one thing for Amazon employees to go protest as private individuals, about their pseudo religion on their own time, and without any reference to their employer. To openly criticize their employer’s business, in violation of confidentiality obligations to which all employees are undoubtedly subject, should be grounds for instant dismissal. These loons need a taste of reality – they seem to think they’re still in college.

January 28, 2020 11:37 am

Why does it now seem to be okay to complain on-line or in public about your employer? If you employer is breaking a law then raise a flag but if you don’t like your job or how you employer conduct’s their legal business practices then find another job.

January 28, 2020 11:41 am

Amazon’s Boeing and Airbus aircraft don’t run on employee farts and neither does Bezos’ SUV. Just terminate the Climate Crisis Crazy Sandinista and Vietcong employees before they start their sabotage operations!


January 28, 2020 11:41 am

This one I have a little personal experience with. Amazon like many other large corporations is trying to ride the green tiger. We know what happens at the end. Jeff Bezos probably wouldn’t be caught in a room with us but our fight keeps his company from being ransacked by the barbarians. You’re welcome Jeff

January 28, 2020 11:52 am

Those people are trolls, and nothing else. I don’t care if that was yesterday or last year, they are nothing but power-hungry trolls. It is past time to put a stop to this nonsense. I have yet to find anything that says Amazon is any more environmentally bad than a company like Foxconn, which wanted to build a plant in Wisconsin at the head of the local river’s watershed. Now that WOULD be an environmental disaster, because Foxconn was planning to build LCD screens up there, among other things. There are more appropriate sites that they could have chosen.
But Amazon as a non-green company? It ships stuff that other people make, for Pete’s sake. What a bunch of nincompoops these people are!!! I hope they like living on crackers and peanut butter.

James P
January 28, 2020 12:00 pm

How is it better for CO2 emissions if the oil and gas industry has to build and run its own separate data management hardware vs sharing Amazon’s massive centralized systems?

Reply to  James P
January 28, 2020 4:07 pm

The only difference is that various snowflakes get to feel good about themselves and how they stood up for the environment.
Actually doing good isn’t relevant. It’s all about how they feel about themselves.

January 28, 2020 12:03 pm

Don’t you just love it when they cannibalize themselves? The owner of the Washington Post is being attacked by his own employees who are doing what the WaPo is encouraging.

Joel O’Bryan
January 28, 2020 12:09 pm

Amazon’s AWS recently lost the multi-billion dollar US DoD cloud computing contract to Microsoft.
The differences in corporate culture between those tech service competitors couldn’t be more stark. The risks to DOD’s data integrity presented by Amazon’s SJW culture was likely a significant concern to the Pentagon data security experts. This letter now to Bezos from his SJW employees only confirms those Pentagon fears about Amazon’s AWS reliability. The DoD takes insider threats quite seriously after the Snowden security apocalypse, a contractor working on the inside with access who decided to go SHW rogue.

Everyone of these letter signers needs a termination letter from HR and a security escort off company property to send the message how serious this is to the other employees and to Amazon’s AWS customers. If AWS does not do that, if I were Microsoft or IBM I’d be contacting all of AWS’s corporate customers to let them know their data is saferwith them.

January 28, 2020 12:34 pm

This climate crap and self-righteous posturing is stupid. Tell those postulators to start by giving up their Nintendo switch and cellphones those have fossil fuel remnants in them.

January 28, 2020 12:34 pm

Ms. Graham-McCann and Ms. Reeder got their 15 minutes. Not likely to see another Greta from either of them, though. Things must be slow at Amazon’s “Senior” Analyst and Design departments!

January 28, 2020 12:51 pm

Is climate justice analogous to social justice: relativistic? Another euphemism that needs to be deconstructed in a run… flight through the gauntlet’s proving ground. “Wack, wack” says the wind turbine.

Kevin kilty
January 28, 2020 1:02 pm

This little tif shows the hazard of adopting the latest fad in corporate governance of pandering to “stakeholders.” While we try to treat employees equitably, and vendors fairly, and produce a quality product that consumers want to buy, and try our best to be a good neighbor in our community, we cannot treat them all equally. Employees are being paid to do their jobs. They give up a right to political activism while on the job. If given free rein they will alienate customers. Vendors will do a sloppy job and overcharge if one does not monitor and pressure them. Without customer satisfaction there will be no business. Alienate shareholders and impair the corporation’s ability to raise capital. Already we have grouped them into two classes.

January 28, 2020 1:27 pm

OT/ Tsunami warning issued for Jamaica and Cuba after 7.3-magnitude earthquake strikes Caribbean

January 28, 2020 1:52 pm

The cancel culture needs to be canceled.

Ed Zuiderwijk
January 28, 2020 1:59 pm

Jeff, just do a Reagan on them: fire them on the spot. Plenty of candidates to take their place.

January 28, 2020 2:01 pm

To respond to the request of those idiots, Amazon should offer a Fast and Furious service for its goods delivery, filmed with a 8k GoPro.

Rudolf Huber
January 28, 2020 2:06 pm

Jeff seems to believe he can wiggle out of this the easy way. But that’s what happens when you don’t drive the debate – you are being driven by it. Let’s see what’s more important to Jeff. His business or keeping mum about those issues? The Climate Change movement will not rest before it has wrecked the worlds most profitable businesses, wrecked the richest countries economies and kicked us down the development ladder a couple of rungs. There is no accommodation with extremists. Its total victory or annihilation for them. So Jeff, will you fight fire with fire or continue appeasing?

Clarky of Oz
January 28, 2020 2:14 pm

A case of the tail trying to wag the dog.

John V. Wright
January 28, 2020 2:18 pm

“The science on climate change is clear,” writes Amelia Graham-McCann, a seriously-deranged person with s**t for brains.

Michael Jankowski
January 28, 2020 2:29 pm

One of her “life events” on Facebook was getting a car in 2010. Lots of pics of her on boats that do not appeae to be of the sailing or rowing varieties.

George Cross
January 28, 2020 2:44 pm

I would present the “ex employees” with a “DCM” certificate. Text or email, either works. <:o)

michael hart
January 28, 2020 3:17 pm

Even if he doesn’t fire them, I think it really would be worth an hour or two of Jeff Bezos’ valuable time to sit them down and record a video lecture, with Q&A, about why they cannot ever hope to have what they are asking for. He should then show it to all Amazon employees and politely suggest any dissenters quickly go and work somewhere else.

In the long run it really will be worth his time to nip this stupidity in the bud before it gets any worse.

January 28, 2020 3:55 pm

If I owned a fossil fuel company, I would instruct my IT department to get off of any amazon based products as quickly as possible.
Even if Bezos doesn’t arbitrarily end the contracts, the chances of a self-righteous employee sabotaging your equipment is just too high.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  MarkW
January 28, 2020 5:26 pm

The problem is, when companies go down the path to the “cloud”, O365, Azure, Windows 10, modern workplace, collaboration etc and consuming services on a subscription basis the company is hooked for life. There is no, sensibly economical, way to extract that paradigm shift in IT investment. You either deep dive or die (Commercially speaking). It is the heroin of IT, once you are a user you are hooked for life. Apple could only dream of what M$ is doing.

Reply to  Patrick MJD
January 28, 2020 6:36 pm

You may be hooked, but there is more then one dealer out there.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  MarkW
January 28, 2020 7:06 pm

All using the same product. AWS, IBM, M$ (Obviously). Don’t see any others promoting the product more than M$.

Reply to  MarkW
January 28, 2020 5:54 pm

I don’t think you have to quit service from Amazon; just get enough CEOs to threaten to quit.

Use the lefts own weapons against them. Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals #9 is:
The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.

If Bezos has to face the implications of keeping Zealots on the payroll, those 357 ignoramuses would be gone tomorrow; and would give notice to the rest of the workforce to do the job for which you were hired; and if that ethically bothers you, work someplace else.

January 28, 2020 5:08 pm

The carbon footprint of global IT is about the same as the global aircraft industry. Anyone who logs into Amazon , watches Amazon prime or runs their business on AWS, well…fill in the blank

January 28, 2020 6:43 pm

If I worked for a company whom I felt acted ethically egregious and I could no longer participate in the company’s activities, then, if I found another job paying the same and with equal or better benefits, then I would quit, sending my resignation letter in protest.

However, if I couldn’t find a job suitable to the living standard to which I had become accustomed, then, I would do as these 357 Amazon employees and shoot off my mouth, hoping against hope that my protest would not trigger a demotion or firing. You (the company, Amazon in this instance) are morally reprehensible…but…I want to keep my job.

Now isn’t this just like snowflakes?

Ian Coleman
January 28, 2020 7:44 pm

How is it even possible that members of the presumably well-educated staff of Amazon could come to believe that oil and gas companies were purveyors of evil? This is absurd. If oil and gas companies abruptly ceased to provide oil and gas, millions of Americans would die of starvation, exposure and the inevitable violence over the existing stores of oil and gas in the next six months. Oil and gas companies literally provide one of the critical ingredients for life in the United States, and could get several times the price for the goods they sell if they colluded to drive up the price. I am inclined to believe that corporate entities that provide goods and services that not only vastly enhance the lives of their customers but make their lives possible in the first place are good. So, evil? What?

Foolish people equate tobacco with oil and gas. Come on. If tobacco companies suddenly ceased to sell their product, a lot of people would have an uncomfortable few weeks, and then probably gain some weight. No one would actually die. Also, smoking really does sicken and often kill people, which is the exact opposite of the core benefit of oil and gas.

January 28, 2020 8:36 pm

Someone please tell me: Who died and made these idjit employees God?

They need to learn what it means to be jobless, moneyless and hungry. Winter isn’t over yet.

Patrick Hrushowy
January 28, 2020 10:23 pm

What kind of ethics do those employees have? Why are they working for a company that does unethical business (in their eyes)?

Ian Coleman
January 28, 2020 10:31 pm

My guess, Sara, is that idjit employees are also quite young, and certainly without dependants. I myself was an idjit when I was young. I probably still am now, although it is in the nature of idjitism to not realize that you suffer from it.

January 29, 2020 3:17 am

I wonder if you can buy ‘Carbon Footprints’ on Amazon?

AGW is Not Science
January 29, 2020 6:42 am

“The science on climate change is clear”

Yes. It is clear that:

CO2 has never been empirically demonstrated to drive the Earth’s climate or temperature;

On the other hand, temperature has been empirically shown to drive the atmospheric CO2 level, on multiple time scales;

There is no increase in the frequency or severity of “bad” weather in the face of warming of the climate since the Little Ice Age;

Atmospheric CO2 has not been empirically shown to change due to human CO2 emissions, despite endless assertions of this non-fact which are based on nothing more than inadequate data, assumptions and circular logic;

Warm climate periods have always been better for life on Earth than cold climates;

Climate has varied naturally since long before human activities could possibly be the “cause” of any of it, and to a degree (pardon the pun) far beyond anything currently seen, and will continue to do so.

So the Amazon Eco-Nazis can shut up now – which is exactly what “management”/Bezos should tell them. If they don’t “feel” right about working for a company that “supports” fossil fuel interests in any manner, they sure as hell picked the wrong outfit to work for, since the entire foundation of the business they’re working for is based on fossil fuel use on a massive scale. Quit and work elsewhere, or shut your traps.

Ken V
January 29, 2020 9:44 am

I have an idea. Why don’t they demand that their jobs be canceled.

OH WAIT!! I think they just did.

January 29, 2020 10:16 am

Smells like opportunity…for an ACS competitor.

January 29, 2020 10:27 am

Social justice convergence is a business killer.
Letting these people inside your business is like opening your door to vandals and robbers.
Letting them run it is sheer suicidal lunacy.

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