Guest essay by Eric Worrall
According to an outpouring of ecological grief from Inside Climate News, the Aussie bushfires are a sign all the trees in the world are about to die from heat stress and fire.
In Australia’s Burning Forests, Signs We’ve Passed a Global Warming Tipping Point
‘Nobody saw it coming this soon,’ one scientist said. ‘It’s likely the forests won’t be coming back as we know them.’
BY BOB BERWYN, INSIDECLIMATE NEWS
JAN 8, 2020As extreme wildfires burn across large swaths of Australia, scientists say we’re witnessing how global warming can push forest ecosystems past a point of no return.
Some of those forests won’t recover in today’s warmer climate, scientists say. They expect the same in other regions scarred by flames in recent years; in semi-arid areas like parts of the American West, the Mediterranean Basin and Australia, some post-fire forest landscapes will shift to brush or grassland.
More than 17 million acres have burned in Australia over the last three months amid record heat that has dried vegetation and pulled moisture from the land. Hundreds of millions of animals, including a large number of koalas, are believed to have perished in the infernos. The survivors will face drastically changed habitats. Water flows and vegetation will change, and carbon emissions will rise as burning trees release carbon and fewer living trees are left to pull CO2 out of the air and store it.
In many ways, it’s the definition of a tipping point, as ecosystems transform from one type into another.
The surge of large, destructive forest fires from the Arctic to the tropics just in the last few years has shocked even researchers who focus on forests and fires and who have warnedof such tipping points for years.
The projections were seen as remote, “something that would happen much farther in the future,” said University of Arizona climate scientist David Breashers. “But it’s happening now. Nobody saw it coming this soon, even though it was like a freight train.
“It’s likely the forests won’t be coming back as we know them.“
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Read more: https://insideclimatenews.org/news/08012020/australia-wildfires-forest-tipping-points-climate-change-impact-wildlife-survival
The truth of course is such claims are just as absurd as “end of snow” predictions.
Will the forest change? Of course it will. Forests are dynamic systems, there is always change; especially after a major event like a large bushfire.
Will anybody notice anything different in 10 years? Hopefully what people will notice is the scorch marks of more frequent controlled burns and larger firebreaks, indications of competent forest management to ensure fewer koalas get crisped in the next large fire.
“It’s likely the forests won’t be coming back as we know them.”
This is a good thing. It means that the forests won’t be coming back as severely overstocked, decadent, and fire prone thickets of brush.
Tongue-in-cheek of course, but hope I’ve made my point. Manage your damn forests, and you won’t have such devastating bush fires.
By that “scientist’s” logic, whenever a tree dies life will never be the same.
As long as nothing ever dies, life will never change.
Wait … what?
They really have jumped the shark.
If they jumped the shark with electric bikes, we wouldn’t have to worry about them any more.
Jeff: I think I see what you mean by jumping a shark with an electric bike. Sea water is a better conductor than fresh water or distilled water. How terribly shocking !
I think you mean they’ve jumped the bark 😉
Nature is simply stepping in to manage the forests, since we have failed to do so. Nature takes the long view, so a few hundred homes and over abundent homo saps. don’t really matter.
“In many ways, it’s the definition of a tipping point, as ecosystems transform from one type into another. ”
NO, that it not the “definition” of a tipping point. The analogy of a vase tipping over represents a system going into a state where it is dominated by a positive feedback ( the further it leans the more force there is to accelerate the fall ).
A forest fire which eventually runs out of fuel and ensures there will no more forest fires in that area for some time to come is a good example of a NEGATIVE feedback.
How these halfwits are allowed to even pretend to be scientists is beyond me.
Say it loud; say it often.
Unfortunately “science” in much of the popular media has degenerated into a quasi-religious, quasi-superstitious belief system dominated by code-like language, in-crowd virtue signals, and mean-girl shunning of the uninitiated.
I will bet Mr. Breachers any amount of money that forests will grow back.
Can I get some of that action?
Faster, due to the beneficial extra CO2.
And all the nutrients left over after a fire.
I’ve just driven through bush burnt less than two months ago and it is regenerating – as it always does.
So far the current fires have taken about 8 million Ha of bush. In 1974/75 the fires accounted for 117 million Ha.
These fires are not unprecedented, not unusually large by comparison with earlier fires.
I would invite the end of earth brigade to come on down, in about three years, and wonder at mother natures recuperative powers.
yup new bushy growth on burnt trees within 3 to 6mths
and the coming rains will help that along
ditto the shrubby bushes like heaths and others if not from seed in the ground then brought in by birds in poop from nearby areas
and after winter rains new eucy saplings will rise
and they..are where the problems begin again if theyre not thinned strategically
yes we will have lost some trees but the last thing we need is dense stands recurring again
Forests grow back? That has NEVER HAPPENED. Every biome that has ever burned has remained barren and frozen in time ever since.
Life isn’t really alive, with abilities to regenerate. The natural world is more like a store display window, where nothing ever changes unless the store manager says so.
So … the ecological “scientists” insisted that it was … natttttural … to allow scrub growth and forest growth to go untouched by human intervention. Mmm OK.? And when the forests become an inferno due to those policies … it’s also … natttttural, right? So nature is doing the job you eco-zealots stopped intelligent human organisms from doing. So it should be a Win-Win? Right? Just like you declared after allowing half of Yellowstone Park burn to the ground. You all cheered the Yellowstone inferno as … natttttural. You claimed all the species of seeds that required fire to germinate were the beneficiaries of forest infernos. So … what happened to that GLEE over fire? You should all be CHEERING the Australian infernos. Right?
Don’t these imbeciles understand that our eucalypt forests are optimised to use fire to regenerate? The seeds need fire to pop open and can then germinate. If you burn all the leaves off them, including the crown, they just shoot new ones pretty much like deciduous trees but including new branches from the trunk.
Don’t they understand that at settlement in 1788 Australia had hauge swathes of landscape modified by the indigenous population by the relentless and skillful use of ‘cool burning’ to suit their needs and manage their risk from firestorms. It is only relatively recently that the eco fundamentalists have enforced their green tape regime that every tree is worth several human lives and all but shut down preventive buring and mechanical clearing both by government and private landholders.
We have enough problem in Oz with our local inner city green loons weeping into their soy latte as they watch the latest bushfire porn on their dumb phones and we really don’t need every green loon on the planet joining in.
The rather laconic, dry sarcasm that epitomises much of the Australian sense of humour draws from the manifest ignorance of ‘new chums’ in settle times as they tried to apply their northern hemisphere reference points to this country.
These latter day dimwits don’t have the same excuses that encouraged our forefathers to use humour in response to such ignorance. They can quite easily Google all the info they need about the Australian ecosystems and the countries history of drought and flood cycles linked to ENSO and IPO etc. If they are too arrogant, too self righteous or just too damn bone lazy to do so then we have the full range of fully weaponised expletives and insults to let rip with because frankly given the eriousness of the current fires we just don’t have the time or patience for their utter BS.
“It’s likely the forests won’t be coming back as we know them.”
Unfortunately they will. Eucalypts are pyrophytes. This is how they prevent other forms of forest from outcompeting them. Lodgepole pines use the same nasty trick on e. g. Engelmann spruce.
This is what will be happening in a few weeks:
It is known as “epicormic budding”, and is initiated by heat and/or smoke.
And if it is mallee that has been burning it will first look like this:
And in a few years like this:
“It is known as “epicormic budding”, and is initiated by heat and/or smoke.”
But this is clearly a genetic adaption by Eucalypts and genetic adaption occurs as a response to environmental stress. That means fire must have been an environmental factor for long enough for a species to genetically adapt to it (millions of years) so how can one rationally argue that fire now will destroy the forests. It is no accident that many fire prone areas involve Eucalyptus trees whether here in Aus or in California or in Peru or many other places in the world. California could greatly reduce its fire risk if they removed all Eucalyptus trees. After all, don’t the environmentalists insist one should only grow indigenous plants and since when are Eucalyptus trees indigenous to California. But then of course only arguments favouring the cause will be entertained.
They’ll probably be worse actually, at least for a time. I recently drove through St Andrews, a small town in the bush just north east of Melbourne. St Andrews was hit hard on Black Saturday in 2009. The forest around it is now a thicket of ~10 year old saplings. It’s also been very dry there for a couple of years, so there are quite a few patches of dead saplings. Long story short, it’s a tinder box.
The councils in the area had a 10 year moratorium allowing residents to cut down trees to reduce fire risk. That is now over and the green dominated council is pretty much preventing any native trees from being felled. My friend in Kinglake (a nearby town also hit hard on Black Saturday) was even told that he couldn’t cut down a him tree that he planned himself.
In other areas I’ve been recently the sapling regrowth from Black Saturday is even thicker. On the edge of Tarra Bulga National Park where they haven’t had the same dry conditions the saplings are very thick and lush.
That’s just what happens after a big fire.
Also, how about having the insane eco-fanatics NOT starting fires to burn up the heavily fuel-stocked forests causing massive fires in an attempt to force the rest of us to comply with their “Green-New-Deal” insanity!!!!
Forest fires happen every summer because it is possible to start a forest fire in almost every forest on the planet except in raining winter months.
Anyone here with wilderness camping experience? Even rainforests have dry seasons. Forest fires in Brazil.
The cult of CAGW are lost. They are fighting to push CAGW which is a dead idea, so they are using false logic.
… conceptually there is no ‘tipping’ point because the cult of CAGW’s ‘science’ is a 100% incorrect.
We did not cause the CO2 rise and the CO2 rise did not cause the temperature rise.
This Canada winter was forecasted to be warm and above normal warm because the forecasters believed the cult’s message…
https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/news/article/british-columbia-set-for-coldest-temperatures-this-century
B.C. set for coldest temperatures this century
There are more trees in North America now than 150 years ago. They are not old growth trees but from two different developments. One is replanting and moving away from clear cutting. Except for the Tongas National Forest in Alaska which under Governor Bill Sheffield began selling to the Japanese for less than $1.00 per tree. I confronted him personally on that one. The other is in the absence of natural vast grasslands you now have scrub trees like juniper, cedar, mesquite etc that have moved in to replace the grasslands. Just wish we had antelope here in Texas. Armadillos are plentiful but are now in Oklahoma and further south and no longer in Ohio.
Jean – Not sure where to start, because you’ve got some mixed up ideas. Let’s just take one: that “Governor” Bill Sheffield “began selling (timber from the Tsongas NATIONAL FOREST) to the Japaneses for less than $1.00 per tree.” This is utter nonsense. The governor of Alaska, like the governors of all STATES, have absolutely zero responsibility over the sale of FEDERAL timber. Governor Sheffield must have been mystified by your challenge.
What will happen to a green planet when C02 is drastically reduced? https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth
Save the trees and forget about the animals-
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/extinction-rebellion-listed-as-extremist-by-anti-terror-police/ar-BBYR20u?ocid=spartanntp&fullscreen=true#image=2
No wonder the kiddies are suffering anxiety and on medication.
Please let it rain brain 😀
I’ve rarely read so much tripe in one article. That Berwyn character seems to have no grip on reality at all.
Berwyn
WTH? How in the world did those flux lines interact?! LOL
If only these charlatans were held accountable for their Chicken Littlism.
Now you’ve hit the nail on the head. Because of their stupid policies, at least nine people have died, and nearly 800 homes destroyed and twice more again that many homes damaged. Animal losses have been estimated to be nearly one billion. Yes, the 24 arsonists contributed, but they could not have been so successful without folks like Berwyn lobbying low IQ politicians.
Politicians should be turned out of office until they start to hold eco-terrorists responsible for their misdeeds.
As long as you have land socialism nothing will change.
Land Socialism: Playing With Fire
Private markets specialize in protection of property, particularly against natural risks. If the land were privately owned, it would be protected against burning through better management. If it had to be burned, the burning would be controlled. Unexpected events like droughts and winds would be calculated into management decisions.
What’s more, there would be serious liability issues. Any owner of property who let fires rage would be directly responsible for imposing fires on others. This is the way markets work. If my bathtub overflows, floods my house, and then the waters flood my neighbor’s house, I am responsible via my insurance policy. So, yes, there would be a price to pay for fires on your land that harm others’ property.
What do we have today? We have fires that are no one’s responsibility. Oddly, and by some strange practice that dates back to, hmmm, the beginning of time, rulers are not to be held responsible for actions that take place on their watch. So the government is not liable. It should be but it isn’t. So putting government in charge is always a perfect storm for disaster without responsibility.
Your job is to flee, pay, and obey.
https://mises.org/library/land-socialism-playing-fire
I like chickens. I like all animals. They taste great!
Well now We’ve Passed a “Tipping Point” there’s no way back,
so can we stop all this nonsense & just sit back to enjoy the the unprecedented cataclysmic end of everything over the next 12,000,000 yrs
See AOC was right… she just forgot the extra six zeros on the end.
Did she get the Abbopotamus to do the hard math. for her?
No, she got the JiffyLobo. Lobotomies in 15minutes, guaranteed.
(fyi, not original; credit to peoples cube)
Add a couple more zeroes and multiple by 2, and then you’ll be close.
“Party on, Garth!”
Tim Flannery – “Even the rains that falls isn’t going to fill our dams and river systems.
This has proven to be just as false as the current alarmist BS from so-called “scientists” (“Climate Scientologists” maybe!)
“Climate Scientologists” Good one!!! Shamelessly going to steal that one.
Tim Flannery was quoted as having stated that the odds of this so-called unprecedented event happening naturally was 350 to one.
Taking them at their word and assuming no similar event since European settlement, those odds actually work out at just on a 49% chance that these events would have happened by now, through natural variability. So it’s pretty much bang on time.
That’s what they said during the last drought, so they didn’t let the dams drain. Then as usual, the rains came and the dams filled to overflowing and they had to release so much water there was widespread flooding – which is what the dams were constructed to prevent in the first place.
I wonder, did they learn from the last time or have they already forgotten?
Just how bad does it have to get before people realize that it’s a bad idea to pay attention to the warmunists?
we already have the media pushing the rains that might come this week causing flash flooding and risking the firies yet again..sigh. its never ending crap from go to whoa here;-(
I’m sure the whole climate scam community and bbc knows the names and qualifications of these “climate scientists” but I personally have never read a single word of anybody who wasn’t parroting the ipcc or u.n 😐
Do these “climate scientists” even exist??
Hate to point out the obvious, but trees that burn provide nutrients for coming generations of trees.
These people are SO dismal. How do they manage to get up in the morning and face themselves in the mirror?
Sara – to be fair, REALLY hot fires can cause changes to soils, and not in a good way. That said, I’m not too worried. Right in my backyard we have Mt. St. Helens, which had a fairly significant eruption almost 40 years ago. Temps in the pyroclastic flow that resulted were off the charts hot. The major landowner at that time, Weyerhaeuser, showed that vegetation started to return almost immediately.
It really is hard to stop trees from becoming re-established after fire.
Forty years ago?
For the sake of all of us who remember it very well can you please pretend it was only ten years ago?
Tonyb
Tonyb – I hear you. We saw the “Big One” (there were numerous other, smaller eruptions) from the picture window of the place we were renting at the time in one of the Portland, OR burbs. A week later, my oldest daughter was born.
“A week later, my oldest daughter was born.”
Wow! That’s some fast work!
Jeff – Well, according to the alarmists, correlation is causation…
Ha ha yes, I was a Post-doc at U of Alberta then. The only place I’d seen volcanic ash before was on good French cheeses, so quite surprising to see my car covered in it.
I was heading east from Chinook Pass (Sat. 8/12/2017) and saw the smoke plume from the Friday lightning strike that became the Norse Peak Fire. A USFS truck with 2 folks were along the side of the road – watching the rising smoke.
The fire landscape was studied, even while it was still hot.
Norse Peak Fire Recap
4 reports – see white-on-green links, right side.
https://www.wrra.net/norse-peak-fire-info
I recall these reports were from 2018, but don’t see dates.
Maps and photos in the “soils” one are very good.
And . . . such studies are not new:
Wildland Fire in Ecosystems Effects of Fire on Soil and Water
https://www.fs.fed.us/rm/pubs/rmrs_gtr042_4.pdf
This is a 262 page pdf from Rocky Mountain Research Station, 2005.
@LKMiller
Sara – to be fair, REALLY hot fires
show me a cold one, please 😀
Krishna – Fires burn at widely different intensities, which depend mostly on the fuels and fuel moisture. As an example, my managed woodlot in northwest Montana could easily sustain a fire, which under all but very extreme conditions would burn on the ground in fuels that are light. The temperatures wouldn’t get very hot and a couple of years later, you wouldn’t even know there had been a wildland fire.
Contrast that to the federally mismanaged National Forest, that abuts my property. Heavy, heavy fuel loads that, when they do burn (increasing frequency with each passing year of no management…), burn extremely hot and long. Such sites a year later are still essentially completely black, with very little vegetation coming back.
“Fires burn at widely different intensities, which depend mostly on the fuels and fuel moisture”
Don’t forget wind, which intensifies things dramatically via removing ash and providing oxygen.
“How do they manage to get up in the morning and face themselves in the mirror?”
Probably via prescription psychotropic drugs and their twitter echo chamber.
Perhaps these “scientists” could take a road trip from NYC to, say, Youngstown, Ohio? If they are not totally braindead, or totally stoned, dude, they will learn there are plenty of trees on this planet. I don’t hold out much hope for it, at least they would get out of their cubicles and actually see some sunshine for a bit.
As per usual its worse than expected… blah, blah,,blah.
Read the following on the mismanagement of Yellowstone for parallels…
https://kottke.org/15/01/yellowstone-how-not-to-manage-a-national-park
How do you “manage” a wildlife preserve ? Answer = don’t.
As in Australia similar failure caused by “managing” the fuel load by persistently extinguishing minor natural burns led eventually to much larger sterilizing fires – after which the vegetation that regrew was not the same as the vegetation destroyed.
Much of the Australian fauna need periodic fires to cause their seeds to germinate – not however these sterilizing intensity fires generated entirely by man’s bungling.
That would be the flora. The fauna is not really very keen on fires.
Zig-Zag – ID10T error on my part which I spotted just after I sent it – no edit function unfortunately.
Well spotted.
If man was not there to start small fires to “manage” the forests then wouldn’t we get these large, hot fires? So to me it means that the current fires are more natural and the fires managed by the aboriginal peoples were anthropogenic. So just maybe large fires changing the variety of plants is natural and is nature’s way of helping evolution.
You might be right, but I suspect that most naturally started small fires are suppressed if they’re near developed areas. Human management can mimic the natural process but with more control, making it less dangerous to people, property and even wildlife.
Over ten times as much bush was consumed by fire in Australia in 1974 compared with this season. Twice as much in 2004 at 20m Ha.
These people who have an agenda always wind up looking stupid when everything returns to normal. Unfortunately there are lots of very gullible people who never learn.
“Official Australian Disaster Resilience Knowledge Hub data – 1974/5 bushfire season v current situation”
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2020/01/official-australian-disaster-resilience-knowledge-hub-data-19745-bushfire-season-v-current-situation.html
A bit into the video “A Dearth of Carbon (w/ Dr. Patrick Moore, environmentalist)” Dr. Moore says something in direction of: “If we stopped using fossil fuel tomorrow, all trees would be gone in two years.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjlmFr4FMvI
So the Australian burned forests will regrow if there is enough CO₂ in the air. The Greens seems to do all they can to kill the planet and the world around us. If only they would try to look at the big picture and continue the great success our parents and grand parents, our children and grand children will undoubtedly have an even more prosperous life.
Look closely at the trees in those photos of the forests burning. You can easily pick out a few large trees that are at least 50 to 100 years old. As you look closer you will then see many trees from sapling size to those that are less than ten years old. These younger trees grow for a few years then no longer get enough sun to stay alive and then die. My property borders property like this and I have watched this progression. 50 years ago it was a dairy farm. Today it is inside city limits. 25 years ago the farmer died and the property was sold to a Yuppy that wanted a few horses for his wife and daughter. Worse the saplings, small trees and underbrush are so thick that it is impossible to walk through the 100 acres closest to my land. Last summer while playing with the dog the wind caught the frisbee and carried it less than 50 feet into the woods. Only the dog could get to it. It took me over a half hour to work my way to it as he barked wanting his frisbee stuck on top of the chokeberry and brambles .
Glad that’s over. Now we don’t need to do global socialism.
The Australian fires of ’74/75 prove him right. …. Some 247MILLION acres…. How is it that there was anything to burn this time?????
Oh, wait. The fires this time around have only burnt some 12.4Mil acres….
It’s funny the Australian fires are getting that reaction outside Australia. The Friday protest by the greens and XR8 in Australia didn’t even get 50,000 out to protest in all the cities combined. The biggest protest was estimated at 5000 in Melbourne which is pitiful as it is the only Federal Seat in Australia held by the greens.
There was more poking fun because the Greens bravely stated that at least 15,000 had registered they would attend and the number had bolstered after criticism
(https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/support-for-climate-protest-boosted-by-police-criticism-organisers-say-20200110-p53qaf.html)
At those low numbers no political party is going to pay the slightest interest.
Our children won’t even know what trees are!
” scientists say”…they just make this crap up…get away with it….and no one calls them on it
Tony Heller calls them on it
No one outside websites like this know who Tony Heller is.
Almost no prediction of the future climate by a scientist has ever come true.
“Scientists say” makes me burst out laughing.
Especially when I hear yet another prediction of doom !
Warmth and higher levels of CO2 promote the growth of plants.
There are thousands of scientific studies to prove this.
There are greenhouse owners around the world using CO2 enrichment systems, at their own expense.
Of course, what could greenhouse owners know about growing plants ?
There are NASA, and other, satellite photos proving the Earth is ‘greening’, in spite of land use changes — some green areas being cleared and used for economic growth.
Being a leftist means truth does not matter.
Our planet supported the most life, animal and plant, in the age of the dinosaurs — it was hot, and had high CO2 levels.
Most of those huge mammals and reptiles ate vegetables, so the vegetables must have been huge, and prolific, too.
The current climate on our planet is the best it has been in 800 to 1,000 years, since before the colder Little Ice Age centuries, for humans, animals and plants.
The climate could improve with more CO2 in the air, for the plants, and warmer, for all humans, and those animals who live outdoors.
The world should be CELEBRATING the current climate.
The change of the climate since the 1880s was normal — actually quite small, assuming you can trust any global average temperature estimates before the use of satellites 1979 (and if you don’t trust those statistics, which I do not, then you should consider that the government bureaucrats who compile the statistics are strongly biased to report MORE global warming, not less … and they make repeated, arbitrary revisions that INCREASE their global warming claims).
The 330 years of global warming since the cold 1690s have been 100% good news, yet smarmy leftists tell us a continuation of that warming, which is their guess, not a fact, would be 100% bad news.
That belief makes no sense.
Wild guess, always wrong predictions of the future climate make no sense.
Yet “climate change” is nothing more than repeated wild guess predictions of the future climate — always wrong, but always stated with great confidence !
My climate science blog,
with over 52,000 page views:
http://www.elOnionBloggle.Blogspot.com
I like your Honest Global Warming chart. It’s remarkable that climate is as stable as it is, though we are perhaps lucky to live in such as time that it is.
Anyway, if I were an operator of some production plant, I would be quite happy with that level of control.
@richard is your story about the nightly drones really true? – Or are just just using it as an imaginary example:
” That’s a lot of unanswered questions ! (100%)
But of course we know the global average temperature 100 years in the future ?”
The drones story is strange but true.
Google “Drones over mid-western states”
Drones are not that exciting
— UFOs are fun, and real.
I am 99.9% certain that crafts from other
planets have visited Earth, using silent
propulsion systems with no heat
or exhausts — the US Navy has released
three videos and some pilots and radar
operators confirmed what was seen.
Thy were featured in a TV show
called “Unidentified” that is serious
and VERY believable.
https://play.history.com/shows/unidentified-inside-americas-ufo-investigation#episodes
In the 1990s, altered crops from
crop circles were studied by
University of Michigan physicists,
an hour from where I live.
They had no explanation
for changes to plant stem nodes
within the real crop circles,
which had unexplained changes
completely unlike the broken stems
in fake crop circles,
made by human hoaxers.
The very complex
perfectly symmetrical
real crop circle designs
can only be seen from the sky,
and they are stunning.
No human, or even a team
of 100 humans could
create patterns like that
overnight (or ever).
This “Circles From The Sky documentary
video gives many views from the air
— there’s about 10 minutes
of unnecessary speculation
in the 40+ minute video,
but the rest is spellbinding.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x39szzs
Forests were, are, stay a dynamic system,
How in God’s name did the forests return from, say, 5000 years ago when global temperatures were as much as several degrees warmer than today’s temperature?
OK Doomer
Just like corn fields in October. Every year I assume that corn fields won’t be coming back as we know them.
Shockingly they always do seem to come back. Guess we haven’t hit that tipping point yet.
So the Eucalyptus that uses fire to spread, and the Koala’s that have developed a speciality for trees that spread by burning, will both decline because of fire ?
Honk Honk 🙂
Maybe apostrophe abuse will become a thing of the past.
No indictment for Capitalization abuse, or punctuation abuse ?
Your pedantry is slipping, old boy!
🙂
“Your pedantry is slipping, old boy!”
Didn’t want to go overboard, y’know.
Not a chance. Apostrophe’s were invented to be abused!
You have no idea how much physical pain apostrophe abuse cause’s. Please stop.
I think this is a case of capostrophic alarmism related to a climate change thread.
I’ll be ill if you take away my apostrophe.
If you like your apostrophe you can keep your apostrophe.
Eucalyptus trees are exotic to me. I’ve seen plenty in California, not sure of which varieties – though they are quite big and tall, but I don’t know much about them. I find them quite attractive and enjoy the odor of terpenes they emit. Unfortunately, the climate where I live is too harsh for them.
I suppose that the fact that they are highly flammable and grow back quickly has something to do with eliminating competition and perhaps to keeping koala populations down to improve the tree survival as a species.
Basics are here: https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/ornamental/trees/eucalyptus/tips-growing-eucalyptus.htm
They can be a bit dangerous, tend to drop huge branches without warning, large enough to damage vehicles or hurt or even kill people if you are really unlucky.
Good to know.
never ever park under a eucy tree in summer. especially when its been very hot or windy
one dropped in my yard 10 days ago and across the rd a massive fall as well
mine I can cut and dry for next winters wood
across the rd?
its n a main rd controlled by Vicroads so no ones allowed to cut or remove it ..
its not hollow so nothing wil be living IN it anytime in decades
but
it now creates a trap for grasses to grow higher with shelter from any slashing machinery and for rabbits n foxes to burrow in/under as well
However, understand that there are at least 500 (probably more like 800…) species in the Genus Eucalyptus. Not all Eucalypts are the same – range from short, shrubby trees to huge giants.
Those who cannot remember the fires are condemned to repeat them.