Some thoughts and photos from #COP25 in Madrid- What “climate emergency”?

It’s been interesting, it’s been challenging, and it’s been exhausting. It has also been a bit surreal. What follows is a combination of my experiences and events taken from news reports and social media.

Let’s start with my arrival at the airport Monday morning after a red-eye flight. Leaving baggage claim, the first thing I see is a TV reporter doing a report from in front of an information kiosk for COP25.

Then on ride from the airport to the hotel, a couple of billboards touting “climate emergency” or “climate crisis”. I didn’t get photos of those since I could not get a clear shot from the shuttle, but there’s this one from Greenpeace covering up some legitimate and paid for advertising. I guess they don’t like cars.

Source; Daily Mail

Here are some other photos. The policia were everywhere, they really put the “Cop” in COP25.

Inside, they really lay out the welcome mat for you. I have no idea what “climate debt” is, but it’s probably just another excuse to extract money.

The world on ice….nice imagery, but just as stupid as the previous photo.

Time for action? Hmm seems like every conference says that. Yet, the world is unmoved it seems:

Photo from my friend Keely Drukala of Heartland

These kids apparently didn’t get the action memo:

Photo from my friend Keely Drukala of Heartland

Here, some extinction rebellion people did something. This report from AFP will have to suffice because I didn’t want to get close to any of these people:

UPDATE: AFP Blocked the video from appearing on WUWT, so when you press play, you’ll get a notice. However, you still can view it on YouTube by following the link directly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsuZY_xpi7M

They like to hand out awards at these events, here’s some kids getting awards on behalf of their countries for daring to keep the lights on:

Then, there were the ubiquitous polar bears. I’m not sure how they fit into nuclear energy, but I’ll take it:

Nancy Pelosi and Sheldon Whitehouse showed up with an entourage of like minded political simpletons and made some blah blah claims to make it look like the U.S. really hasn’t left the 2015 Paris Climate Accord:

Here is what she said:


“Today, our delegation concluded a successful two-day visit to COP25 in Madrid with a message on behalf of the U.S. Congress of ‘We’re still in,’” Speaker Pelosi said.  “Combating the climate crisis is the existential threat of our time and it was essential that our delegation stand with international partners, who are continuing to build upon and solidify their commitments to meet the Paris Agreement’s goals.”

source: https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/12319-1

Ummm, riiiight. That ship didn’t sail, it already sank. And for the record, President Trump did in fact start the process to pull the U.S. out of that quagmire. I think Pelosi is holding onto the hope that Trump will be impeached or un-elected before the one-year withdrawal deadline is up.

Sheldon Whitehouse had to get his licks in too, citing the imaginary funding from “big oil”.

Then there was Greta Thunberg, and the media frenzy around all that. This video from Euronews sums up the non-event of fossil fueled chase boats trying to get a glimpse of the eco-saint-in-waiting pretty well:

There was lots of shouting from the McKibbenites too:

While all this circus action was going on, I was involved in a live video feed sponsored by The Heartland Institute. Here is Dr. Will Happer, former science adviser to President Trump:

And, we made the news in the local newspaper in Madrid, the “El Confidencial” ran an in-depth piece on The Heartland Institute live feed.

I somehow managed to capture front-and-center, the headline says:

Skeptic counter-summit in Madrid: “Where is the weather emergency? There isn’t one!”

In the photo above, Heartland’s James Taylor is on the left, and on the right is hurricane researcher Stanley Goldenberg who has his head down because he’s typing a response to some troll on the YouTube Q&A feed.

This is what they had to say about me:

Translated:

Some, such as Anthony Watts, a former television meteorologist who became a successful blogger within the skeptical sphere, supported the existence of climate change although they claimed that the homogenization of data by scientists was nothing more than a manipulation to present temperature rises. as much more pronounced in the name of the algorithm. “Where is the climatic emergency?”, He asked himself, “there really isn’t one: they take pristine data and modify it in the name of homogenization, thus moving from a mild warming to an alarming warming.”

Where is the weather emergency? There really isn’t.

Watts wondered why all those scientists and activists at COP25 insisted on denying this evidence of theirs: “They think they are on a mission.”

source: https://www.elconfidencial.com/tecnologia/ciencia/2019-12-04/contracumbre-escepticos-negacionistas-cop25_2363471/

When my live feed presentation is ready on YouTube, I’ll add it.

In short, here’s my impression of COP25:

It was a whole lot of hot air talking about cooling the planet, shouting it is “time for action”, while putting out hands asking for money.

The conference seemed subdued compared to the bigger shindigs of Copenhagen in 2009 (which ClimateGate successfully skewered) and Paris in 2015 which got hamstrung by Donald Trump a year later.

Perhaps it was due to the last-minute switch from Chile, perhaps people are realizing these conferences are pointless.

For certain, we live in interesting times.

Next week I’m off to the AGU convention in San Francisco. But, I have to shop for galoshes first.

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Admin
December 4, 2019 8:32 am

Don’t take any malarkey from the galoshes saleszen.

Scissor
Reply to  Charles Rotter
December 4, 2019 2:47 pm

And make sure they fit properly to help prevent toe nail fungus.

Earthling2
December 4, 2019 8:34 am

Anthony…Is the shopping for the galoshes to wade through all the BS of this climate emergency extortion? Because sea level rise is real, real slow.

Reply to  Anthony Watts
December 4, 2019 8:46 am

Make sure you have your Hep A immunizations up to date.

Max
Reply to  Anthony Watts
December 4, 2019 9:08 am

Better get some hip waders.

John F. Hultquist
Reply to  Max
December 4, 2019 11:31 am

San Francisco, an amazing city where the dogs are outfitted with boots in case they fail to step around the human poo.
Search images for ” dog boots ” – there is an amazing variety of styles, colors, & materials. Sets are of 4.
The “hip waders” are a bit more expensive.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Max
December 4, 2019 5:31 pm

Well geeze, it’s not like he’s in Washington, D.C.

mareeS
Reply to  Anthony Watts
December 4, 2019 10:17 am

Get your immunisations,take a face mask. It is putrid there.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Anthony Watts
December 4, 2019 5:01 pm

Just like Seattle.

Sara
Reply to  Earthling2
December 4, 2019 9:59 am

Okay, well, don’t touch anything barehanded! Wear gloves! It’s for your own good, Anthony!

But seriously, watch where you put your feet. There are apparently needles from dopers strewn all over the place, as well as human offal and garbage. Please be careful.

Bryan A
Reply to  Sara
December 4, 2019 12:25 pm

Offal Careful

Martin A
Reply to  Sara
December 5, 2019 12:20 am

That’s simply offal.

John Bell
December 4, 2019 9:06 am

Climate justice = “We gonna SOAK the rich!”

Pop Piasa
Reply to  John Bell
December 4, 2019 2:11 pm

To the elite, climate justice means shrinking the global population by energy starvation..

Reply to  Pop Piasa
December 4, 2019 4:23 pm

“If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.” ― Philip, Duke of Edinburgh

Joel O’Bryan
Reply to  John Bell
December 4, 2019 2:44 pm

Its not the uber rich they are coming for. By world standards the US, UK, Canadian, Aussie, and most of Western Europe middle class is wealthy compared to many other countries. And there’s a whole lot more of us than wealthy elites. So when you do numbers, there aren’t enough billionaires and multimillionaires to fleece, besides they have sophisticated strategies to hide vast amounts of wealth as seen in the Panama Papers.
So it’s you and me, the middle class, they are coming for. Our retirements, our 401Ks and IRAs that have trillions of dollars stuffed in them, and our lifestyle that allows travel and nice homes and cars and the affordable energy to run them.

Dale Mullen
December 4, 2019 9:13 am

Anthony: Interesting that APF is apparently so frightened of you that they won’t permit your first video to be shown on your web site.

Dale Mullen
Reply to  Anthony Watts
December 4, 2019 9:36 am

Yes. When I clicked on the video, I was informed that AFP refused to permit the video on “this” site (WUWT?) but that I could watch it by going directly to YouTube.

Reply to  Dale Mullen
December 4, 2019 10:34 am

It’s just set to not allow embeds.

I made a test post on my test site on the wordpress.com network.

Same issue.

Greg
Reply to  Charles Rotter
December 4, 2019 1:39 pm

same on hooktube, it’s not specific to WUWT.

Also some kind of “read error” on the Happer vid.

I love the Freudian truth in Polosi’s statement:

“Combating the climate crisis is the existential threat of our time

Yes, all the BS being done in the name of “combating the climate crisis ” is getting to be the existential threat of our time. And COP25 is where it’s happening.

Joel O’Bryan
Reply to  Charles Rotter
December 4, 2019 3:50 pm

Greg,
Climate Change will be a big nothing burger for humans or the planet.

Climate Change Policy though is an existential threat to humanity and Earth’s ecosystem. Every feel good policy based on OPM always ends up having the exact effect of what it was stated to avoid.

Want environmental destruction and pan-genocide? All we have to do is implement all the Green ecotards’ murderous energy policies and it will happen.
Example: Like the West Coast homeless population explosion, its exactly those Libtard policies that continues to grow that crisis.
Example: Want to save the forests, but actually end up destroying them in hot cataclysmic fire? Then do fire suppression for 40 yrs in the name of saving an owl the forest and green ecotardness good intentions.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Charles Rotter
December 4, 2019 4:29 pm

‘Yes, all the BS being done in the name of “combating the climate crisis ” is getting to be the existential threat of our time’

There’s the man-made climate crisis.

beng135
December 4, 2019 9:15 am

Good post.

Slight typo – fixed for ya:
Nancy Pelosi and Sheldon Whitehouse showed up with an entourage of like minded political simpletons…..

Michael Heath
Reply to  beng135
December 4, 2019 1:25 pm

Fantastic Post!
I would humbly offer one last correction: Defining Nancy Pelosi and Sheldon Whitehouse as “simpletons” is an insult to simpletons.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  beng135
December 4, 2019 5:03 pm

“Sen. Whitehouse: “You may hear statements from the fossil fuel industry about what their hopes and expectations are for climate action. My firsthand experience is that the statements from their lips do not match the expenditure of their funds.””

Was he thinking that as he and Pelosi were flying thousands of miles for a photo op? Hypocrites.

Ron Long
December 4, 2019 9:19 am

Nice tie, Anthony. You have that urban camoflage bit down pat. The appearance of San Fran Nan, et al, is a political falsehood of stupid second grader level, which also is the impeachment kerfuffle show. Please let us know, when the dust settles, if you converted anyone or if they converted you. Good Luck!

David Gadziala
December 4, 2019 9:20 am

🎶But where are the clowns
Send in the clowns
Don’t bother, they’re here 🎶

Mumbles McGuirck
December 4, 2019 9:23 am

I watched some of the presentations (including yours) in real time. I would like to know how many jurnos attended? What was mix of local vs international news people in audience?

Safe travels home.

John McClure
December 4, 2019 9:24 am

Anthony,
The Heartland presentation was fantastic! I watch the entire show including the last mystery guest who was great.

Obviously, someone from the press was in the room – glad the Heartland forum got some coverage.

Pelosi wasn’t part of the USA delegation to COP25. Any idea who let her knucklehead contingent on stage?

Hope you have a great trip.

John Bell
December 4, 2019 9:27 am

OMG the hypocrisy, think of how many FLEW to that event, but they are special and are allowed to do what they do not want the little people to do, this is important stuff, to get others to stop using fossil fuels while they use them every day.

beng135
Reply to  John Bell
December 4, 2019 10:51 am

I dunno, they would’nt be hypocrites if they used a Barney-Copter:
https://youtu.be/lXUrC7XQDKs

ht/ The Flintstones

Mumbles McGuirck
Reply to  John Bell
December 4, 2019 11:24 am

The Canadian Rebel TV has attended the last few COP meetings and done some needed (and hilarious) skeptical reporting on the hyporcricy on display at these dog-and-pony shows. I especially remember the ones from COP22 Marrakech :
https://www.therebel.media/cop22_in_marrakech
They set up a Potemkin village in the desert, with bottled water shipped in and waiting buses running their engines to keep the a/c going so guests wouldn’t schvitz. 🙂

Sunny
Reply to  Mumbles McGuirck
December 4, 2019 5:23 pm

Mumbles Mcguirk

It’s the first time i have heard/read about the rebel, and I’m impressed 😀 Shock tactics work on the scamming greens and they always look confused when asked real questions…

Sunny
December 4, 2019 9:34 am

How did Nancy Pelosi and Sheldon Whitehouse and a whole entourage get to spain? How are they getting around? How is green peace powering their boats? After the last one was cut up in Bangladesh 😐

So it was the same old “give us your money” So we can live the high life, in jets and yachts, also so we can spend time in Monaco to give you a report on the artic ice which isn’t melting 😐 What idiots! The day they live like the Amish (minus all electronics) I mite listen to them.. Actually no I won’t.

rbabcock
Reply to  Sunny
December 4, 2019 10:05 am

Pelosi/Whitehouse would probably have come over on a lightly filled Air Force jet.. and we US taxpayers paid for it. No worries, since it was military it didn’t emit anything.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Sunny
December 4, 2019 10:05 am

Nancy Pelosi has her broom. Dunno about the others.

Fraizer
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
December 4, 2019 11:05 am

Nancy Pelosi has her broom. Dunno about the others.

She had to quit using it after Trump glued sandpaper to it.
…or maybe she didn’t – that would account for the nasty mood she has been in.

John Boland
December 4, 2019 9:52 am

Looks pretty lame, so that is good to see…I appreciate the work you are doing here on WUWT.

Johanus
December 4, 2019 9:57 am

Many activists are demanding “reparations” from entire classes of people (e.g. “white” people) for the misdeeds (e.g. slavery) of some of these people in the past.

So, perhaps, when it becomes obvious to everyone that the so-called “climate crisis” was merely a scam to redistribute wealth, it will be considered politically correct for sceptics to sue the descendants of these climate activists for the the billions/trillions of dollars wasted on political corruption and fraud. 😐

John Bell
Reply to  Johanus
December 4, 2019 12:53 pm

Is not “welfare” that has been paid out for decades enough reparations for slavery?

mark from the midwest
December 4, 2019 10:04 am

Funny that Pelosi is claiming to speak on behalf of the U.S., that’s actually a real impeachable offense… and yes a member of the House can be “expelled” by a 2/3’s vote of the House, which leads me to my next thought …

Tom in Florida
Reply to  mark from the midwest
December 4, 2019 10:46 am

Imagine that the Speaker of the House, second in line for the Presidency, is off on a tax payer funded photo op while her House Committees are engaging in one of the most serious events in our Country’s history. Or perhaps she is just distancing herself from what she knows will be the ultimate failure of that action.

Plantation Willie
Reply to  Tom in Florida
December 4, 2019 12:47 pm

Third in line. VP is second.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Plantation Willie
December 4, 2019 2:56 pm

VP is first in line. That’s how the phrase works.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Plantation Willie
December 4, 2019 5:07 pm

No plantation for you, Willie.

Sara
December 4, 2019 10:07 am

The original agreement that was offered by the Obama administration was never ratified by the US Senate. It is therefore invalid and unenforceaable. Period.

So Pelosi and her grandstanding buddies went there to make a statement that the US is still part of something that it has never been obligated to participate in.

Nice work if you can get it, and I’m sure Nancy et al., will add this junket to their “expenses” for prior-to-yearend accountancy, as a tax write-off.

And here, I thought impeaching a sitting President was important! Silly me!

Ron Long
Reply to  Sara
December 4, 2019 5:03 pm

“So Pelosi and her grandstanding buddies went there to make a statement that the US is still part of something that it has never been obligated to participate in.” Good comment, Sara, and a direct indictment of Pelosi and her grandstanding buddies under the Logan Act. Add John Kerry to the indictment list also.

niceguy
Reply to  Ron Long
December 6, 2019 1:33 pm

Is there any period in history when the Dem leaders took the Logan Act seriously?

Do they plan to apply it specifically to the presidential “transition period”?

JohnOfEnfield
Reply to  Sara
December 4, 2019 6:24 pm

Impeachment of a President IS important. However, for political reasons, they aren’t yet impeaching the President, merely conducting an Inquiry. This apparently obviates the need for due process. In a similar vein, as only the House can enter into a Foreign Treaty, Obama attempted to get around that tiny restriction by “signing” the Paris Agreement and THEN getting it adopted by the UN. Simples! You must realise that the US Constitution is a “Living Document“/sarc.

Johann Wundersamer
Reply to  Sara
December 10, 2019 7:03 am

Sara December 4, 2019 at 10:07 am

The original agreement that was offered by the Obama administration was never ratified by the US Senate. It is therefore invalid and unenforceaable. Period.

So Pelosi and her grandstanding buddies went there to make a statement that the US is still part of something that it has never been obligated to participate in.

Nice work if you can get it, and I’m sure Nancy et al., will add this junket to their “expenses” for prior-to-yearend accountancy, as a tax write-off.

And here, I thought impeaching a sitting President was important! Silly me!

https://www.google.com/search?q=House+Democratic+leader+Nancy+Pelosi+is+spending+the+holidays+vacationing+in+Hawaii&oq=House+Democratic+leader+Nancy+Pelosi+is+spending+the+holidays+vacationing+in+Hawaii&aqs=chrome.

https://www.google.com/search?q=take+the+long+way+home+supertramp&oq=take+the+long&aqs=chrome.

December 4, 2019 10:13 am

Wait a minute…I thought the time for climate action was twenty years ago. Aren’t we too late now? That’s what they were saying then.

December 4, 2019 10:15 am

Anthony, we need more of the words and images of extreme environmentalism and your sane words and imagery. Steve

Emrys Jones
December 4, 2019 10:24 am

There is is a real danger that all the bullshit being uttered in the conferences will carried up by the associated hot air into the upper atmosphere, there to concentrate into nuclear fusion and burn us all to a frazzle. No – I’m serious, we should be worried.

wilt
December 4, 2019 10:32 am

Looking at the number of Rebels in the YouTube movie, it seems they soon will be Extinct ….

ResourceGuy
December 4, 2019 10:32 am

The other useful things at COP25 are those banners. We need the ones saying Climate Reparations and Make Them Pay on every billboard and newspaper in America before the Presidential election so those voters that would be paying see this and fight back against the UN Climate Crusades.

Petit_Barde
December 4, 2019 10:42 am

This is really scary. Actually we have -12 years left to save the planet (the – is not a typo) :

https://wmbriggs.com/post/28466/

KcTaz
December 4, 2019 10:42 am

Keep up the good work, Anthony, and thank you for all you do in the cause of bringing some sanity to the insane AGW/CC Hoax.

DHR
December 4, 2019 10:56 am

No doubt any polar bear would love it a COP 25. Lots to eat. Easy to catch.

Abolition Man
Reply to  DHR
December 4, 2019 11:19 am

A HUGE THANK YOU, Anthony, for all you do to bring us back from the brink of insanity and disaster! Please be sure to tell all Climate Hoaxers that they need to get a new dye job because their racist and colonialist roots are showing! China and India can spew and “pollute” all they wish; Africans, not so much! Free Africa from Western imperialism; clean coal NOW for Africa! Maybe some CNG and even sugarcane ethanol as well.

Abolition Man
Reply to  DHR
December 4, 2019 11:26 am

Polar bears like high fat-content foods like seals and whales best; the skinny vegans and vegetarians at COP 25 would leave the bears hungry and perhaps prone to diabetes from their high carb content. Fine, stout gentlemen like myself would be more satisfying but we have a tendency to shoot to kill! I’ve always wanted a polar bearskin rug; at least since I saw a red headed Vargas girl on one in my youth!

Abolition Man
December 4, 2019 11:18 am

A HUGE THANK YOU, Anthony, for all you do to bring us back from the brink of insanity and disaster! Please be sure to tell all Climate Hoaxers that they need to get a new dye job because their racist and colonialist roots are showing! China and India can spew and “pollute” all they wish; Africans, not so much! Free Africa from Western imperialism; clean coal NOW for Africa! Maybe some CNG and even sugarcane ethanol as well.

Dr. Bob
December 4, 2019 11:31 am

Jim Hanson has the solution, put a carbon tax on all fossil fuels.
http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2019/20191204_CarbonReality.pdf

Note that he distorts GHG emissions by putting them on a per capita basis instead of using the real values. So China with it’s huge population has lower GHG emissions per capita than the “developed” countries. But on an actual basis, China emits more GHG’s than the US and Europe combined as shown in Jim’s own charts.

What Hanson fails to understand is that the real poor of the world benefit from low cost fossil energy and putting a carbon tax on fossil fuels will harm all these people far more than anyone else in the world.

Susan
December 4, 2019 11:41 am

Here in the UK an XR protestor dressed as a bee has glued himself to the Lib-Dem battlebus – the Lib-dems are as green as you can get without being Green and the battlebus is electric. No-one is safe!
Even Greenpeace put habitat loss and pathogens before climate change as reasons for decline in bee populations, this nutter puts it first.

ATheoK
December 4, 2019 11:43 am

Tens of thousands of dollars in anti-science propaganda on display, just between the airport and the conference.

Signs of a scam when they have access to the amounts of money needed to fund that nonsense.

John F. Hultquist
December 4, 2019 11:48 am

Thanks for the report.

Many of the activists appear to be young, say 20 or so. Lots of money flowing to support these UN Parties.
At that age I sometimes didn’t have enough money for a bus ticket, so made a few trips as a hitchhiker. They are well outfitted for the cold. Nice hats for the folks on The catamaran, La Vagabonde.
And these folks want money from the rest of us to pay a dubious (non-existing) debt.
Kiss off Doomers.

Tractor Gent
December 4, 2019 11:56 am

COPs may be pointless but the elites qwont give up on their jollies that easily. Sadly we UK taxpayers have to foot the bill for the next one. I doubt riots in Glasgow will put a stop to it.

DocSiders
December 4, 2019 12:05 pm

I to imagine a prolonged peaceful coexistence between these Authoritarian lying Leftists and Americans.

This story can not end well.

R.S. Brown
December 4, 2019 12:11 pm
Carl Friis-Hansen
Reply to  R.S. Brown
December 4, 2019 1:06 pm

I think Steve McIntyre would puke.

A few times, scientists were wrong in their predictions about the growth of carbon pollution, saying there would be more of the gases than there actually were, Hausfather said. If they got the amount of heat-trapping gases wrong, they then got the temperatures wrong.

It is as stupid as saying in a*b=f that f is only dependent on a.

Dave Fair
Reply to  R.S. Brown
December 4, 2019 1:20 pm

They said the average score of the models’ was 69%. Whoop de do! How did they do on the tropical tropospheric hot spot? Or lack thereof.

Sommer
December 4, 2019 12:39 pm

The recent efforts made by you, Anthony, and by others have been excellent!

Please take a look at the Bossmaker website out of Amsterdam.

We’re in the final phase where those who have been complicit in propping up and benefitting financially from the deceptions will be openly identified and brought to justice.

Sommer
Reply to  Sommer
December 5, 2019 1:08 pm

https://bossmaker.nl
Take a look at what they are saying about corruption in the energy sector.

Carl Friis-Hansen
December 4, 2019 12:50 pm

Meanwhile in Lisbon:
“Greta Thunberg Warns that People Underestimate ‘the Force of Angry Kids’”

I thought President Trump said something in direction of Greta being such a happy young woman – somehow I love Trump’s dry humor.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Carl Friis-Hansen
December 4, 2019 6:07 pm

Interesting. So, St. Greta has now become “Greta Vader”. She really has turned to the dark side.

rw
Reply to  Carl Friis-Hansen
December 6, 2019 11:12 am

His comment is even more amusing (in a doleful sort of way) if you’ve read anything about the family that Greta springs from – or her earlier activities:

https://notrickszone.com/2019/10/26/german-portrait-of-the-thunberg-ernman-family-acutely-dysfunctional-an-infinitely-sad-family-history/

Sky King
December 4, 2019 1:03 pm

The first question I would ask is how the pay-for-play situation is in Madrid this week. As I recall, in Copenhagen 2009 the selection was bountiful and excellent.

PaulH
December 4, 2019 1:35 pm

The phrase “skeptical sphere” has a nice ring to it. 😉

Derg
December 4, 2019 1:40 pm

For lefty causes the sign makers sure make money during these events. The make some very pretty signs, so who pays for them?

UN?

Mic
December 4, 2019 1:46 pm

So, Australia is equal worst. As an Aussie, I am proud to win this award, but it is probably not deserved. We are one of the few countries that will actually reduce our emissions and meet our Paris targets. We have not built any (that is zero) coal fired power stations in the last decade and all new power generation in this time has been wind and solar. We also have the highest domestic roof top solar installation in the world. Yes. as a country we believe in self harm.

tom0mason
December 4, 2019 2:55 pm

COP25 should be renamed HUBRIS25.

Humans do NOT control the climate.
Humans do NOT control atmospheric CO2 levels.

Climate is a chaotic process and not some kind of (on average) thermal engine.
The climate changes as it REACTS to environmental changes about it. The largest environmental variables are solar and oceanic changes, and these two parameters initiate later atmospheric changes that cause greater climate variability than all other environmental put together.
The very idea that humans ‘know’ why, what, and how the sun and the oceans vary is testament to the level of hubris that UN ‘climate science™’ propagandizes on the peoples of the world. In reality they (Climate Scientists) know very little, and certainly do not understand to any significant degree, how interconnected are the climate parameters and processes.

Steve Z
December 4, 2019 4:13 pm

Saint Greta is late for the party, because there’s apparently not enough wind over the Atlantic. That means she’ll have X days less available to save the world when she gets there.

Although Speaker Pelosi and Senator Whitehouse have no real power to re-commit the USA to the Paris accords, they did emit several tons of CO2 in planes on their way over, for no useful purpose. One side benefit of Pelosi’s trip to Spain–she’s not in Washington trying to impeach President Trump!

Phils Dad
Reply to  Steve Z
December 4, 2019 7:39 pm

Saint Greta has yet to respond to the fact that yacht crew members flew from Europe to the USA in order to sail her back. The same thing happened on the out ward journey. There would have been less flights overall had she flown herself (but no headlines).

Travis T. Jones
December 4, 2019 4:20 pm

Fact-check: Over 100% of climate zombies prefer protest signs created from 100% fossil fuels.

goldminor
December 4, 2019 4:33 pm

O/T …I was looking through and comparing different graphs one of which was the MEI. From my saved folder I used MEI from 12/1/18 (last one prior to V2) for the purpose. Then I wanted the more current MEI, and so saved the recent V2 of the MEI. It then crossed my mind to cross compare the MEI with V2 MEI. What reason would there be for so altering the past data?

Some quick examples of significant changes, ie the 97/98 El Nino peaks at 3.0 C on the original. V2 shows the peak of 2.5 C. Original MEI shows first peak of 97/98 El Nino close to 1 2018, and a second smaller peak 9 or 10 months later. V2 shows the first peak as smaller, and a year later a second larger peak. How can such a severe change be justified. The entire graph has been changed along the same lines. Every El Nino has been minimized in its relationship to the following La Nina. And that has been exaggerated because every La Nina has been changed to a slightly colder temp on every low point, ie 2010 La Nina of -1.9 C on the MEI drops to -2.4 C on V2. Does this mean that for the decades prior that all of those scientists who gathered the MEI data had been wrong?

William Haas
December 4, 2019 5:10 pm

Concerning climate justice. Based on the paleoclimate record and the work done with models, the climate change that we have been experiencing caused by the sun and the oceans over which mankind has no control. Despite the hype, there is no real evidence that CO2 has any effect on climate and there is plenty of scientific rationale to support the conclusion that the climate sensitivity of CO2 is zero. So the entity responsible for any climate related problems is Mother Nature. Lots of luck on collecting a judgment fro Mother Nature.

michael hart
December 4, 2019 5:27 pm

Seems lik“El Confidencial” gave a refreshingly honest report about you, based on the translation given here.

I wonder if they also realize that US foreign policy is the purview of the President, Secretary of State, and the Senate, and not Nancy Pelosi?

Craig from Oz
December 4, 2019 6:26 pm

Australia wins the CAN ‘Fossil’ award?!

WOOOOO!!!!

IN YOUR FACE REST OF WORLD!!!

Oi! Oi! Oi!

WXcycles
Reply to  Craig from Oz
December 4, 2019 7:59 pm

It’s been a big day, we got last in global academic standards too! “Not Yet Satisfactory!”

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Craig from Oz
December 5, 2019 4:59 am

damn right!!
thats a first prize to be proud of;-)))
cooooeeee cobber boing boing!!

Phils Dad
December 4, 2019 7:36 pm

Saint Greta has yet to respond to the fact that yacht crew members flew from Europe to the US in order to sail her back. The same happened on the outward journey. Had she flown herself, there would have been less flights overall (but no headlines).

WXcycles
Reply to  Phils Dad
December 4, 2019 8:04 pm

Her holiness winks at the naughtiness and hands out indulgences by the fistful.

David S
December 4, 2019 8:22 pm

Anthony I give you an A+ for guts. Some of those people on the left have become dangerously psychotic. They are not tolerant of free speech if it conflicts with their notions. Your life could be at risk around them.

Peter Fraser
December 4, 2019 11:41 pm

Oh no. Thunberg’s catamaran runs out of wind and motors the last stretch. Can’t be late for the circus.

December 9, 2019 5:44 am

They look all bundled up and cold for December 2 in Madrid

Johann Wundersamer
December 10, 2019 6:39 am

no idea what “climate debt” is, but it’s probably just another excuse to extract money –

“Climate debt” is extortion to keep them green gangstas satisfied.

Johann Wundersamer
December 10, 2019 6:49 am

These kids apparently didn’t get the action memo:

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Photo from my friend Keely Drukala of Heartland

: seemingly a photograph of the REAL 3rd world loosers no one gives a 2nd look.

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