The Globalists’ Race Against Time on China

Guest opinion piece by David Archibald,

To recap briefly, most of the communist countries collapsed by 1991 and the Western democratic tradition was seen as the winner of an existential battle that had waged since the Russian Revolution of 1917. Historian Francis Fukuyama called it “the end of history” because only good things would happen thereafter. Mankind’s ideological evolution had ended and Western liberal democracy would be the final form of government.

In response to that wishful thinking, Harvard historian Samuel Huntington wrote a paper, and subsequently a book, entitled The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of the World Order in which he predicted that with the end of ideological conflict the world would revert to a normal state of affairs characterized by cultural conflict. In particular, Professor Huntington predicted an attack by Islamists on the United States. That attack duly happened five years later. Huntington had identified China and Islam as “challenger civilizations.”

But there is a third force attacking civilization that hasn’t been officially recognized until recently, when President Trump named it in his speech to the United Nations on September 24. That speech began by deploring Chinese aggression:

It is the divide between those whose thirst for control deludes them into thinking they are destined to rule over others and those people and nations who want only to rule themselves.

Then continued on to its main thrust with this line:

The future does not belong to globalists.

So who are the globalists and what do they want? The globalists date back to Cecil Rhodes in the late 19th century. He thought the elite of the English-speaking world should run the whole planet. The early history of the globalist effort was recorded by Carroll Quigley in his book Tragedy and Hope, first published in 1966. Carroll Quigley was then a professor of history at Georgetown University and a mentor of then-Georgetown undergraduate Bill Clinton.

Globalist central is the Council on Foreign Relations, founded in 1921. Its main propaganda outlet is the magazine Foreign Policy. The purpose of Foreign Policy is to bathe its readers in the preferred narrative, rewriting history as necessary. For example Foreign Policy had been blindly pro-China until it was decided that China’s recidivism was threatening to thwart the globalist vision. So now Foreign Policy is publishing anti-China articles in which the villains are Republicans.

The globalist agenda can only be imposed on a static world in which people feel comfortable and secure. If China started a war that resulted in the deaths of millions, with its attendant destruction and starvation, that would make globalism a hard sell.

A military parade at Tienanmen Square celebrated the 70th anniversary of the Chinese Revolution October 1, 2019 (YouTube screen grab)
A military parade at Tienanmen Square celebrated the 70th anniversary of the Chinese Revolution October 1, 2019 (YouTube screen grab)

The globalist vision is one world government in which misery is shared equally. The globalists plan ahead and see the threat of starvation which will hit individual nations in sequence (Paul Ehrlich’s timetable was vitiated by the 200% increase in wheat and corn yields originating from the work of Norman Borlaug). Once starvation hits, globalism would have zero traction. Thus, global warming was created as the excuse to bring in one world government with the talk about fighting global warming by giving up meat in our diet. And eating insects instead to get protein. Normally such a loony notion wouldn’t be given the time of day, but it is coming from the United Nations.

The China threat explains why global warming hysteria has ratcheted up this year, with Extinction Rebellion and Germany trying to avoid a climate catastrophe that is only in their mind. It is a race to get the globalist solution to a non-problem imposed before China’s war of choice upsets the applecart.

In his speech to the United Nations, President Trump described how the globalists operated:

A permanent political class is openly disdainful, dismissive, and defiant of the will of the people. A faceless bureaucracy operates in secret and weakens democratic rule. Media and academic institutions push flat-out assaults on our histories, traditions, and values.

President Trump’s antidote to globalism is correct in part but not the whole solution needed:

…each nation represented in this hall has a cherished history, culture, and heritage that is worth defending and celebrating, and which gives us our singular potential and strength; and

Wise leaders always put the good of their own people and their own country first; and

Cherish your culture. Honor your histories. Treasure your citizens.

In the election campaign in 2016 Trump was all for pulling out of Afghanistan and once elected he made a half-hearted effort to that end. When the United States became involved in 2001, Afghanistan’s population was 21 million. It is now 35.5 million, an increase of more than 14 million. In 1998, Afghanistan imported 42,000 tons of wheat. Twenty years later Afghanistan imported 3.7 million tonnes of wheat. A ton of wheat will keep four adults fed for a year. So the whole increase in Afghanistan’s population has been paid for by the U.S. taxpayer.

When the U.S. finally withdraws from that wretched country and it returns to being run by war lords, drug lords and religious fanatics, the U.S. taxpayer will be disinclined to keep sending wheat there and half the country could starve to death. This would be a big disturbance in the globalist narrative, so the U.S. is still in Afghanistan. Nobody has put forward a story for Afghanistan that has as different ending.

David Archibald is the author of American Gripen: The Solution to the F-35 Nightmare

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oebele bruinsma
October 27, 2019 2:34 am

The future is hopefully for Nation States. Having a similar culture as a population within a certain defined area (a nation) generates the relative peace which is necessary for a positive development of such a population. It is all about a culture, the accepted mores and customs of a group of people. To parafrase: So called right wing people like people; so called left wing people love rules and hence control!.

Reply to  oebele bruinsma
October 27, 2019 9:03 am


oebele bruinsma
Reply to  Richard
October 27, 2019 10:12 am

Thanks, I’m getting old..

Joel O’Bryan
Reply to  oebele bruinsma
October 27, 2019 9:05 am

Soros with his money is actively encouraging and fomenting mass immigrations to fundamentally destroy existing cultural identities within European countries and the US and Canada. He does this because nationalism is a direct threat to his globalist cause.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Steven Mosher
October 27, 2019 2:56 am

Interesting. Are Scandinavian countries considered Western? If so, why are almost all of them wanting to stop migration from “diverse” nations (Excluding Sweden as they, with their “feminist” Govn’t, seem to have jumped off the deep end)?

Johann Wundersamer
Reply to  Patrick MJD
November 3, 2019 3:38 am

“Patrick MJD October 27, 2019 at 2:56 am

Interesting. Are Scandinavian countries considered Western? If so, why are almost all of them wanting to stop migration from “diverse” nations (Excluding Sweden as they, with their “feminist” Govn’t, seem to have jumped off the deep end)?”

Good question. Compare

Ron Long
Reply to  Steven Mosher
October 27, 2019 7:20 am

OK Steven, I read the link on Quigley and it appears to me to be his influence on Bill Clinton that led the author Hilly Clinton to write the book “It Takes a Village to Raise a Village Idiot”, which was a best-seller in some circles. Huh?

October 27, 2019 2:46 am

“To me [the Chinese] are the most remarkable race on earth, and I have always thought and still believe them to be the great coming rulers of the world…. [I]n my idle speculation upon this world’s future I have long selected them as the combatants on one side at the great Battle of Armageddon, the people of the United States of America being their opponents.”

Field Marshal Viscount Wolseley – 1904

richard verney
Reply to  Kazinski
October 27, 2019 3:26 am

They have of course a really great ancient civilisation, and of course, one of the greatest philosphers in Confucius. The young Chinese are hard working and clever. It does appear that the 21st Century will belong to the Chinese, at least unless President Trump turns around the US. No wonder that China likes Biden, a man who, like almost all Democrats, hates his counrty and will sell it out at any opportunity.

Joel O’Bryan
Reply to  richard verney
October 27, 2019 4:17 am

I don’t believe Biden hates his country. He’s just too stupid to understand he is just tool. A tool they’ll use and then discard once he no longer remains the Useful Idiot he is to them keep Warren, a true wrecking ball to capitalism that even the Globalists despise, from running against Trump and losing.
Bloomberg would love to run for President, but he has no hope in the Democratic Party that hates billionaires like him even though he would give them most of what they think they want in terms of their social justice pablum In return for power to push globalism forward.

Reply to  richard verney
October 27, 2019 4:54 am

The young Chinese are hard working and clever.

Thanks to the Protestant work ethic, our society prospered. Similarly, Chinese over a certain age are really hard working.

Thanks to the one child policy, China has created a couple of generations of Little Emperors. They are nowhere nearly as hardworking as their parents. They are a big problem for China.

Reply to  commieBob
October 27, 2019 5:21 am

I live in Vietnam and have worked with both the Chineses government and many of their largest companies. I also have extensive work experience with the Russians. I trust the Russians far more than the Chinese. In my experience there is really nothing the Chinese won’t do to get what they want. I find them to more dishonest than creative or hard working.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Marc
October 28, 2019 6:27 am

The Chinese have a very long history of faking stuff (Hong Kong), even food.

Reply to  commieBob
October 27, 2019 7:38 am

I’ve seen this first hand. I’ve also seen the destructive influence of air pollution, cigarettes and drinking (baijiu). Smoking and drinking is predominantly a male activity and I wonder whether the Chinese government secretly promotes it to address demographic issues.

Like many nations, the average age in China is increasing. Its population will also likely begin to decline around 2030, when it will also begin to reduce its CO2 emissions.

China has serious structural issues that are not so easily addressed. Interesting times.

Reply to  commieBob
October 27, 2019 8:07 am
Mathieu Simoneau
Reply to  commieBob
October 27, 2019 8:30 am

They will face the same problems any modern and rich society must face. The Fat Cat problem.
Generations of opulence slowly but surely make a culture and people forget what brought them there to begin with.

Sacrifice, filiality, planning, pragamtism and critical thinking goes out to be replaced by frivolity and instant rewarding. No people can stay ahead of the game for long with generations of slimes.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  commieBob
October 27, 2019 12:30 pm

China ranks 3rd on my list of America’s Greatest Potential Problems that will eventually cause the demise of our Constitutional Republic and Nation of Laws.

2nd on my “list” are those persons who claim to be Muslim and who follow or practice the Islamic or monotheistic Abrahamic religion and consider the Quran to be the verbatim word of God. (There is no such thing as only being half-Muslim)

1st on my “list” are the dastardly devious, dishonest, disingenuous, distrustful horde of federal or DC “Swamp Rats”, which are only the High Echelon of all “Swamp Rats” which gives authority and support to the “Swamp Rats” that are imbedded in state, county and local governments and their agencies.

Reply to  Kazinski
October 27, 2019 3:44 am

You mean the Wolseley who arrived too late to save Gordon and became known as Gordon of Khartoum?
Gordon, Wolsley and Kitchener the butchers of Sudan, the Zulu ?

Sound like the Cecil Rhodes Trust .

Michael Macray
Reply to  bonbon
October 30, 2019 12:53 am

..”Sound like the Cecil Rhodes Trust …”

You mean the Rhodes Scholarship endowment?
Some of the recent awardees should indeed give one cause for reflection!

October 27, 2019 3:00 am

The British Empire, Fabian Society and Rhodes Trust are well known.
The will of Cecil Rhodes is to “form a church of the British Empire” and undo the effects of the American Revolution as a global phenomenon.

These fossils have tried to overturn the US Election, sabotage Brexit, halt troop withdrawal, and listening to Mike Pence ranting on China one wonders which flag he serves. He did clearly say Pres. Trump “has also made it clear the United States does not seek confrontation with China. We seek a level playing field, open markets, fair trade, and a respect for our values. We are not seeking to contain China’s development. We want a constructive relationship with China’s leaders, like we have enjoyed for generations with China’s people.” It appears he can not blatantly drag Trump into his diatribes any longer.

Anyway Barr has opened now a criminal investigation.
and Clapper et. al are throwing each other and Obama under the bus. All leads point to London.

As the financial system careens towards an unbelievable implosion, London knows very well Trump will not follow Bush or Obama dealing with it. Trump’s statement has set the cat among the pigeons.

Andy in Epsom
Reply to  bonbon
October 27, 2019 3:33 am

I do hope that the collusion of the mkainstream media is included in this investigation. They have been very active in these attempts to destabilise the United States and should be seen for what they are.

Reply to  Andy in Epsom
October 27, 2019 4:53 am

There is no MSM anymore – the media are just branches of intelligence.
Where does Brennan of the CIA for example work now?
Durham is on their heels, the are lawyering up!

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Andy in Epsom
October 28, 2019 4:51 am

“I do hope that the collusion of the mkainstream media is included in this investigation.”

It should be. They have evidence on about two dozen journalists (or more) who actively colluded with the Obama administration to undermine Trump. And some of these journalists are directly involved in outing the Russian Dirty Dossier which was coordinated with Comey at the FBI and with the CIA. So I think journalists will get a mention in this investigation.

I do believe that the Leftwing News Media poses the most danger to the U.S. Constition. Without the lies and distortions constantly put out by the Leftwing News Media, the Democrat Party would have no power. The Leftwing News Media is what keeps the Democrats in business.

This coming election will tell us a lot about the influence of the Leftwing Media. If Trump wins, then the MSM has lost its punch. If a Democrat wins, then we have lost our country and the MSM and authoritarianism reigns supreme. We shall see. All the indications I see are that the Democrats are going to suffer a huge backlash at the polls from all the political dirty tricks they are pulling. Of course, that might be wishful thinking. We’ll know in about a year.

Sceptical Sam
Reply to  bonbon
October 27, 2019 5:33 am

Bonbon says:

“Mike Pence ranting on China one wonders which flag he serves.”

You don’t need to worry about Vice President Pence. He’s a good one. He’s right there with President Trump.

Make no mistake: the People’s Republic of China, (Communist China) is manipulating the world’s finances; stealing IP, subsidizing its State run industries, imprisoning Uighers and using them as slave labour, manipulating the Renminbi and the rules of the WTO.

It has an aggressive foreign policy – the proof of which can be seen in the South China Sea.

It is a major emitter of Carbon Dioxide and has “snowed” the world until 2030. (Perhaps they know that man-made CO2 is not the driver of the relatively small level of temperature increase that the IPCC says the world has experienced over the last 100 years).

The Chinese government, the CCP, are cheating on every level.

Pence is right. So is president Trump.

Reply to  Sceptical Sam
October 27, 2019 10:20 am

The FED is manipulating world finance – just look at the Repo purchase rates over the last few weeks since Sep 16. Pres. Trump has big problems with the FED. $120 billion overnight lending? Who has problems, who is cheating I wonder?

Pres. Trump will not fall into the Bannon trap, he fired him. VP Pence sounds like something from the cold war, he is not right, now.

The Belt and Road Initiative, the greatest infrastructure project in history, is going ahead, 160 countries on board. Mark Carney, BofE chief, with his Green Finance Initiative, is a joke compared to this.

The USA must link up with the BRI – those highways, ports, that need more than $10 trillion investment, are no problem with BRI methods.

Reply to  bonbon
October 27, 2019 11:44 am

Thank you bonbon. The President has no power over the Fed, and the Fed is controlled by the globalists. The enemy within.
China is an emerging power, and the USA does not like any other country taking the lead position. The US taxpayer’s have funded the globalists ambition’s and sacraficed many young lives in that purpose.

The head post is full of assumptions.

Reply to  bonbon
October 27, 2019 4:57 pm

On the Federal Reserve

A helpful tutorial – simple explanation of a complex system of fraud we’ve been under since the early 1900’s

Sceptical Sam
Reply to  bonbon
October 27, 2019 7:29 pm

Spoken like a true China bot.

The BRI is the Communist strategy to pauperize those foolish enough to climb aboard, while tying them into the new communist hegemony.

The good thing though, is that China knows that man-made CO2 does not drive global warming. However, even on this its cheating is apparent as its subversives push the line in the western democracies that CO2 is the predominant driver, and western industrial development must be constrained.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  bonbon
October 28, 2019 4:41 am

“All leads point to London.”

All leads point to Barack Obama.

My guess is the only involvement London had was when the CIA asked them to help the CIA investigate Russian collusion with Trump. Instead of London being in a conspriacy with the Obama administration, I think London was just assisting an ally

London had no knowledge of the Obama administrtion’s efforts to undermine Trump (not then, anyway). And I think the same goes for the people involved from Australia and Italy and other places. They are not going to refuse a CIA/U.S. government request for help, especially if they have no reason to suspect it is illegitimate.

I suppose the investigation will shine light on all these aspects. The Democrats are in real trouble both criminally (some) and politicaly (most). The more, the better.

The Democrats, in their current insane form, are the greatest danger to the U.S. Constitution and our individual freedoms. My hope is that the coming investigations and prosecutions fatally wound the Democrat Socialists and destroy their efforts to take over the United States, by showing their true, ugly, dishonest, authoritarian face to the public.

mike macray
Reply to  Tom Abbott
October 30, 2019 1:14 am

Thank you Tom, couldn’t have said it better myself.

October 27, 2019 3:08 am

See Quigley’s later book :
The book cover says it all.

richard verney
October 27, 2019 3:21 am

There are of course good reasons for being concerned about human rights issues in China, but whatever one thinks from, an ideological perspective, of Capitalism verses Communism, one needs to be realistic about what China has achieved, these past 40 or so years. That great transformation could not have occurred under the systems of Government that rule over the citizens in the West.

China has taken many hundreds of millions out of abject poverty and has created a booming middle class. The major Chinese cities on the coast, surpass almost all major cities in the West. 5 of the top 10 cities with the most skyscrapers in the world are Chinese. These cities have nice water frontages, parklands, shopping centres, restaurants, bars, nightclubs and other social amenities. This is worthy of respect.

In the last 20 years GDP per capita, in the modern Chinese cities, has gone up from about US$1,000 to more than US$20,000. This of course sounds low, in comparison to GDP in the West and in particular to the US, but it is the growth that is important (20 times), and of course, China does not have the amount of debt that the US has. When you take account of per capita share of public debt, a very different picture emerges of the state of the US; of course, the hope being that that debt will never be repaid.

President Trump is right that modern China has been built on the back of the US piggy bank, and other Western Nations, but China did not squander that money, and of course, it is not directly the fault of China that the West decided that it wanted to de-industrialize in the pursuant of environmental policies. The West wanted to give up producing CO2, but did not want to give up its consumer lifestyle, so Western Governments decided to outsource the manufacture of consumer goods to China, and China gratefully accepted that, and has exploited the foolish attitude of the West.

It is interesting to make a comparison with Africa. The West has these past 40 years poured $trillions in to China, and $trillions in to Africa. One is a great success, the other, for the main part, remains, as President Trump put it, a sh*th0le. Why is that?

Well it is because in many ways China is the most capitalist country on the planet, where money is respected and buys power and influence. Like America, say as opposed to the UK, it is new wealth/money rather than historic ancestry that is important. And it is important that the money was given to China in return for China doing something of importance for the West, whereas in Africa money was given in aid and Africa did not need to do anything to receive that money.

Thus in China, for it to become the consumer product factory for the world, the Chinese had to build the infrastructure that was needed for that task. It therefore had to build ports, roads, railways, factories, electricity power stations, dams, housing for workers, mines for raw materials etc. In other words, China had to invest in itself, and it has done this and in the process has greatly modernised the country and lifted 100s of millions out of abject poverty. China was able to rapidly carry out this modernisation because of its Communist style of Government. The government says, we want a port here, or an airport there, or a major road network along this route and it is simply carried out without endless years of planning consultation and protests etc. The UK has sought to build an additional runway at Heathrow Airport for over 30 years and still there has not been planning consent for that runway!! that is one of the downsides to a more democratically run country.

In contrast Africa has not needed to do anything for its handouts, and hence has not invested in itself and has simply squandered the money, much of course in c0rruption and @rms and w@r.

I am not seeking to praise Communism, far from it, politically I am a conservative, to the right of the Republicans, but China does deserve some measure of respect for what it has achieved, or at any rate, a realistic appraisal of both the good and the bad. And once the West has caught up with 5G technology, it is likely that there will be just as much surveillance, and of course, just look at how the US deep state have behaved in trying to oust President Trump and to derail his presidency. The US is, at the moment, well and truly a banana republic with its soft coup and behind closed doors impeachment. The West is not as free or as principled or as free of cOrruption, as it likes to believe. Let us hope that President Trump gets re-elected and more successfully drains the swamp, and rebalances global trade.

Reply to  richard verney
October 27, 2019 3:36 am

Very good points, China is Confucian – which dumbfounds the dumbed-down “communist-capitalist” narrators. They have clearly said they use FDR’s methods in their own way. 800 million out of poverty in 10 years should have got them the Nobel in Economics instead of the 2 amateurs recently.

Stephen Skinner
Reply to  bonbon
October 27, 2019 8:09 am

The key to any nation getting out of poverty or becoming wealthy is all the accumulated technical and scientific knowledge gained over the preceding 200/300 years. It took the west 200 years to discover 82 elements out of 92 described in the periodic table as well as all the other advances, particularly generating power and electricity. Any nation wishing to step into a world where it’s citizens have light, energy, heat, running water, medicine etc. does not need to re-invent that knowledge and that knowledge is immense and available to all. In addition China has also allowed it’s citizens a reasonable level of free association and adopted a reasonably sophisticated financial system.

Reply to  Stephen Skinner
October 27, 2019 10:08 am

In addition China has a presence on the Moon, and fully intends to be a space-faring nation. President Trump has given NASA a big boost.
In addition China may well have commercial fusion first, at the rate the west is back-pedaling .

Tom Abbott
Reply to  bonbon
October 28, 2019 5:09 am

“In addition China has a presence on the Moon, and fully intends to be a space-faring nation.”

I recall when, not too long ago, Chinese rockets were failing and blowing up all over the place, and then along came Bill Clinton and arranged for American rocket experts to teach the Chinese how to successfully launch a rocket.

I wonder how much ole Bill and Hill got paid for that one? Democrats, they always help the enemies of the United States in one way or another. For Bill and Hill, it is all about the money.

Gary Mount
Reply to  richard verney
October 27, 2019 3:58 am

Most of the technology we have today was developed because of the western free market system. Whatever system China has it doesn’t seem to be able to develop its own technology very well.

Reply to  richard verney
October 27, 2019 4:40 am

In what way is China comministic? It is fascist.

Reply to  Joel
October 27, 2019 9:24 am

A Chinese friend of mine, with whom I worked for several years, and who returned to China to become a University professor, tells me that China is far more supportive of “free enterprise” than present political regimes in Canada and most countries. Interestingly he still maintains his real estate investments and sends his children to University, outside of China.

Reply to  DMacKenzie
October 27, 2019 10:37 am

I wonder what he thinks of the McCarthy attack on China students, Confucius center accross the US?

mike macray
Reply to  Joel
October 30, 2019 8:48 am

..”In what way is China comministic? It is fascist….”

What’s the diference? Both are hard left totalitarian political systems that subordinate the individual to the State.

Fascism from the Latin, Fax: a staff or rod. pl. Fasces i.e. a bundle of rods. “Any man can break a rod, no man can break the bundle” hence the origin of Fascism (collective strength) in Ancient Rome.. Adopted by Mussolini in the 1920s. to unite (bind) fragmented Italy into one socialist nation under the ancient Roman symbol “fasces’ hence Fascists. Adapted by Hitler to reflect his National ambitions it was labelled National Socialism, Nazism.
Communism aka International Socialism had its first altercation with National Socialism ( Fascism) in the Spanish civil war, losing that first round but ultimately annihilating its sibling political rival in World War 2 with help from anti totalitarian western allies. Since then it has successfully labelled its sister socialist rival Fascism as its antithesis on the extreme right ..which it is not.


Reply to  richard verney
October 27, 2019 5:24 am

China has taken many hundreds of millions out of abject poverty and has created a booming middle class.

How about Africa. link The improvement in Chinese living conditions are indeed notable. On the other hand, it is a mistake to attribute all the improvement to government leadership. In spite of severe handicaps, Africa (I do realize it’s a whole continent not a country) is decreasing poverty and increasing economic development and growing the middle class.

What’s happening is mostly due to technology and cheap energy, not to the system of government.

Reply to  commieBob
October 27, 2019 10:39 am

China’s BRI is very active in Africa. And the Transaqua Lake Chad project has China on-board, after 30 years of EU hibernation.

Reply to  richard verney
October 27, 2019 6:02 am

I have told many people that the reason why China is imposing tariffs on products that come from people who voted for Trump is because they know they cannot win a trade war with the US. If China and the US stop trading, it will wound the US economy for a short time but kill China’s. Instead of “Made in China” we will see “Made in Vietnam” or “Made in Mexico” or some other country. Think of all the stuff we buy that comes from China. Now imagine if none of it did. What would that do their economy? I can guarantee you that if President Trump gets re-elected, China will be more open to a trade deal with the US. I believe they are stalling in the hopes Trump loses.

Reply to  richard verney
October 27, 2019 7:25 am

“That great transformation could not have occurred under the systems of Government that rule over the citizens in the West.”

Yes and no. China prospered because it embraced capitalism. The PRC literature describes their economy as a “Socialist Market Economy”. It’s capitalism with a twist. The government supports you and helps you get needed infrastructure built without ridiculous delays and court fights. But its also a government that takes that wealth from you without Due Process if you get crosswise with the Communist Party. There is a reason that few people seek a Green Card to become a permanent resident of China and why Chinese billionaires try and move as much of their wealth to the west as they can.

Kevin kilty
Reply to  richard verney
October 27, 2019 7:28 am

what China has achieved, these past 40 or so years. That great transformation could not have occurred under the systems of Government that rule over the citizens in the West.

Good lord. The counter example is that which mainland China hopes to destroy — Hong Kong.

Reply to  Kevin kilty
October 27, 2019 10:33 am

Hong Kong is getting a taste of color revolutions, like Maidan, Kiev, before.
A little known item on the extradition bill sparked the riots – white collar crimes would mean extradition.
Now why would that be a problem?
Well, HK is a nest of banking fraud, left over from British ex-governor Patten, who has hailed to their rescue. London and WallStreet depend on this and Beijing does not like such corruption. In other words a clamp down in HK could implode the entire teetering “western” scheme.
Something like 90 billionaires in HK and the majority cannot afford an apartment.

Bob boder
Reply to  richard verney
October 27, 2019 7:29 am

Your wrong, US created a much great rise in wealth with a much smaller population in a the same time period 1880 to 1920. And didn’t have to sponge and cheat the rest of the world. The us didn’t steal and cheat it’s way to the top and drove economic expansion across much of the globe as we still do today including China.

Richard from Brooklyn (south)
Reply to  Bob boder
October 27, 2019 12:28 pm

Bob Boder stated that the US “didn’t have to sponge and cheat the rest of the world” to achieve the achieved recently by China. development. The US at least till the late 1930s did not recognise foreign patents. An example was a fly off between US and British planes in about 1930. The De Haviland aircraft (British) expected to do well as it had Leading edge slats to improve low speed flight. The US manufacturers just copied the patented design and got the order. No rules apply when a country is on the way up. Thus China has asked for and been given a free pass on emissions till 2030.
Best to look at history from a wider perspective before claiming a ‘holier than thou’ position for the US.

Bob boder
Reply to  Richard from Brooklyn (south)
October 27, 2019 4:53 pm

Don’t even know what your talking about, has zero impact on my comments.

Richard from Brooklyn (south)
Reply to  Bob boder
October 27, 2019 7:27 pm

I accept that WUWT is largely populated by Americans with a nationalistic persuasion so I am cautious in questioning that. However my point (to spell it out) was that your criticism of China advancing because they ‘sponged and cheated which the US did not’ had an element of hypocrisy given the US attitude to other countries IP up about 1930. The impact on your comment (if you accept the truth of what I said – you can look it up) is that makes it a little less significant. I was simply pointing out an error. Up to you to consider it or ignore it. I do not wish you ill and appreciate all debate.

Bob boder
Reply to  Richard from Brooklyn (south)
October 27, 2019 5:04 pm

Not even wrong

Reply to  richard verney
October 27, 2019 9:17 am

They do squander a lot of money, particularly in the area of real estate. Developers have overbuilt “investment” properties that remain vacant and are deteriorating and will be worth nothing for the middle class and upper middle class people that invested in them.

They overbuilt infrastructure also, mostly in a shoddy manner. We have problems maintaining our roads and bridges, etc, but many of China’s roads crumble in only a few years. They cheat even within China, using poor quality concrete and materials. In mines, chemical plants and refineries, safety is of secondary concern with injury and death being a common occurrence. They cheat on emission controls and discharge toxic substances directly into neighborhoods and waterways.

Corruption is ingrained in their centrally planned economy. Major progress followed the allowance of entrepreneurship and economic freedoms. They have made great improvements and advances and will continue to do so, but demographics and other social issues will make this more difficult.

Reply to  richard verney
October 27, 2019 12:02 pm

The China “miracle” would not have been possible without the US market (and lesser extent Europe) to sell into.

I was our investment and their theft (stealing) of the fruits of 200 years of Western Civilization’s advances in tech and finance/law that fueled their growth.

The Chinese stood on our shoulders while they picked our pockets.

They always cheat and will not stop cheating. They will never be reliable trading “partners” unless they change fundamentally.

China has built up debt that is many multiples of ours (which is bad enough). They need US $$ now more than ever, so must trade with us to keep their heads above water.

So, now they need us more than ever…and we don’t really need them at all. If we can keep Democrats out of power for about 24 years (doubtful), the US and Western Culture will remain supreme…as China climbs slowly out of its hole…after we have reinvented our supply chains away from the East and back to the West (and India).

Tom Abbott
Reply to  DocSiders
October 28, 2019 5:22 am

“So, now they need us more than ever…and we don’t really need them at all.”

That’s right. The United States does not need China. Seventy-five percent of U.S. GDP is generated internally and of the 25 percent that makes up foreign trade, most of that is generated by business between the U.S. and Mexico and Canada who are the two biggest foreign trade markets for the U.S.

There are increasing calls for the U.S. to stop doing business with China. I don’t know exactly how that would work, but there are people out there saying it. I think I personally could get along fine without buying anything from China. I would even be willing to pay a little more for something if it were made in the United States.

October 27, 2019 3:23 am

Tied all together.

October 27, 2019 3:29 am

Ok – now I see why Trump’s speech at the UN was not given national and international coverage. I will have to watch it, it looks interesting.


Tom Abbott
Reply to  ralfellis
October 28, 2019 5:28 am

Trump’s speech at the UN really *was* a good one. One for the Ages, actually. He hit on all the pertinent points and described reality as it is. That’s why it didn’t get much coverage. The Leftwing Media don’t like reality. They have created an alternate reality in which they live, and they don’t want Trump upsetting their applecart.

Of course, Trump IS upsetting their delusional, socialist applecart and that’s why they are screaming so loud and why they hate Trump so much.

Ron Long
October 27, 2019 3:33 am

Good posting of a complex and dangerous mis-adventure, David Archibald. When you watch riots, be it Antifa in USA, Remainders in Britain, Stop Disigualidad in Chile, Anti-Evo in Bolivia (he’s one of them!), you often see stop Global Warming signs in a variety of presentations. The have-nots want what the other people have, they just don’t want to work for it. The English-speaking culture has two huge advantages, they have higher (but not the highest) IQs and they work very hard. When it gets colder the Antifa crowd, et al, will drop Stop Global Warming for another cause, and just go right on doing what they do, riot, destroy things, steal things, make demands, and avoid working.

Joel O’Bryan
October 27, 2019 4:06 am

”and it returns to being run by war lords, drug lords and religious fanatics…”

News Flash: Afghanistan was, is, and always will be run by war lords, drug lords, and [homicidal] religious nuts. They just tolerate us right now because we give one side guns, food, and US$ to help one side remain in nominal control in Kabul. But yes, once we finally leave, it will descend back into a heightened chaos, characterized by famine and death on a large scale as Pakistan (supported by China), Iran (supported by Russia), and Islamists (supported by Arabian sheik money) wage a new phase of the proxy war to tear the country apart once again.

As for the global conspiracy angle of The Round Table Group set forth by Quigley (and I assume this is what Mosh is referring to), that is still running today full force — supported by rich actors like Soros and the Rockefellers. (I refer to them frequently as the Green Slime to differentiate them from the rather dullard group of GreenBlob ENGOs who are mostly just useful idiots for the greenslimers).
Quigley didn’t like the way the John Birch Society took his observations, but Quigley was too close, too cozy to the Globalists to be objective about their intent. The Club of Rome group is probably indistinguishably a subset of this circle of powerful wealthy individuals who would prefer to remain the shadows, allowing entities at the UN, the World Bank, the European Central Bank to do their work. Undoubtedly people like Christine Legarde, Macron, Trudeau Merkel are their primary agents today in Europe and Canada. Hillary was likely supposed to be part of this group as US president.

George Soros recent interview in the NYT clearly indicates they expect to prevail against both Brexit and Trump and return the US back on the path to Global socialism, solidifying the Round Tables position of wealth and power in the shadows. And the Climate Change Scam is one of their primary tools in this effort to get people to vote against their self interest in both the US, Canada, and the UK.

Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
October 27, 2019 6:21 pm

“war lords”….GOP
“drug lords”….pharma companies
“religious fanatics”…. evangelical Christians

Yup…..welcome to MAGA

John Dilks
Reply to  Karl
October 27, 2019 8:39 pm

In any other forum I would call you an idiot and leave it at that, but not here.
I will not call you anything. You showed what you are by your statements.
They add nothing to the discussion and are designed to offend.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Karl
October 27, 2019 10:33 pm

War lords… Hillary Clinton – “Queen of Warmongers.” – Tulsi Gabbard
Drug Lords… California Democrats allowing homeless heroin addicts to take-over whole blocks of LA, SanFran, and Santa Rosa.

Religious fanatics… climate change can be cured by “faith” and submitting to socialism.

“Dumb” doesn’t even begin to describe Karl.

October 27, 2019 4:07 am

if people werent sidetracked by crap non events like warming and the russia furphy
they might pay attention to stuff thats a real concern…
cant have that!
chinas recent buy ins to pacific islands appear to be already crating some worries ie massive disneytype developments on vanuatu? the locals suddenly realise theres a bit of a issue..oops too late they cried;-)
personally…serve em right
no one chinas bought into ie greeces harbours or other spots inc aus has come off that much better
usually we lose

they fight alright
but they use trade n finance and greed to do it.

October 27, 2019 4:51 am

An interesting perspective on globalism. However, I disagree with the last paragraph. Wouldn’t a famine in Afghanistan strenghten the global communist narrative? “We (the rich countries) destroyed these people’s traditional economy, disrupted their tribal democracy, uprooted the young generation, and now we’re leaving them to starve. We need a world government to redistribute the world’s wealth so nobody gets left behind.”
Globalist demagogues can exploit any war, plague or famine that happens in the world by saying that a strong global government would have prevented it, that a global effort is necessary to mitigate the consequences, etc.

Reply to  Christina Widmann
October 27, 2019 7:51 am

Are you old enough to remember when the USSR tried to exert control over Afghanistan? They failed miserably for the same reason the US was doomed to fail. The Afghans will not abandon their traditional economy and tribalism (democratic? Maybe for some males.). Today, they still clutch at their tribe rather than their country.

When we pull out our last support of any kind, they will be back to the way the have always been.

Reply to  jtom
October 27, 2019 10:00 am

“And now my beauties, something with poison in it I think, with poison in it, but attractive to the eye and soothing to the smell . . . poppies, poppies, poppies will put them to sleep.”

Craig from Oz
October 27, 2019 5:32 am

Keep waving that Gripen flag, Andrew.

Mark Broderick
October 27, 2019 5:48 am

“George Soros’ impact on local elections”

Mark Broderick
October 27, 2019 5:52 am


Richard S Courtney
October 27, 2019 5:58 am

David Archibald,

It is generally recognised that claims require evidence and extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Your above article makes the extraordinary claim that there is a massive conspiracy which you call “globalism”, but the article provides no evidence to support that claim.

‘Conspiracy nuts’ adopt all such unsupported claims of conspiracy so can be expected to support your claim. However, all other people will ignore your extraordinary claim unless and until it has some – any – cogent supporting evidence.


Reply to  Richard S Courtney
October 27, 2019 7:34 am

Where was there a claim of ‘conspiracy’?

Do you have any doubt that the West has pushed Democracy throughout the world in the past? Was there a ‘conspiracy’ to do that? Or was there a convergence of self-interests?
There really are only two concepts: nation-states or world government. If you cannot see the fierce tug-of-war between those groups, then you simply have been in a cave.

The UN, EU, open borders, and cultural diversity (or multi-culturalism) are the objectives of globalists; Brexit, borders, and assimilation are the goals of those who want nation-states.
Since the status quo is (was?) the nation-state, it is the globalist who must be on the offensive, while nation-staters are forced into defense.

Of course the best way to destroy a defense is within, which is inarguably the strategy of globalists. Refusal to let Brexit go forward, fights against border control, allowing different cultures with different laws to be establish within countries (the intent of multiculturalism, aka diversity), and destroying nation economies through the farce of climate change, are all being pushed within the borders of every major nation-state. Nation-staters are attempting to defend themselves with border protection, insistence on assimilation, Constitutional law, and refusal to abandon a carbon economy.

The US has unfortunately had a series of globalist Presidents – G. H. W. Bush, Clinton, G.W. Bush, and Obama. During that twenty-eight year period, globalists became entrenched in every level of US government. The election of Trump, a huge nation-stater, threw a huge monkey-wrench in their plans, and now holy hell has broken out within the government. The globalists will stop at nothing to get him out of office or render him ineffective.

Joel O’Bryan
Reply to  jtom
October 27, 2019 9:35 am

They are actually coming after you and me… the middle class and our affluence.
Trump is just in the way.

Mark Whitney
Reply to  Richard S Courtney
October 27, 2019 7:44 am

To quote Mr. Quigley:

“There does exist, and has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates, to some extent, in the way the radical Right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other groups, and frequently does so. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted
for two years, in the early 1960s, to examine its papers and secret records.
…my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known.
[The goal is] nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences…”
-CARROLL QUIGLEY, Tragedy and Hope, 1966

The network he speaks of is the Council on Foreign Relations, created by the Morgan, Rockefeller, Warburg, Rothschild banking houses after the failure of the first globalist construct, The League of Nations. It was also they who created the central banking cartel.

Your reaction is understandable, and typical, since it is the reaction that has been anticipated and cultivated to facilitate the ‘conspiracy’ as you refer to it. I do not think conspiracy is entirely an appropriate term at this point since they are currently running nakedly through the streets.
The major media conglomerates are corporate members of the CFR, as are or were such prominent figures as George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton. Hillary Clinton paid them special tribute on the opening of their DC branch offices. Dick Cheney was a Director of the group, a fact he joked about hiding from his constituents in Wyoming. Virtually all of the Directors of CIA have been members. They have surrounded every president since FDR inclusive.
The UK equivalent is known as the royal Institute for International Affairs as I recall.
Call them what you will, or ignore them as they would like, but they do exist, and they do occupy positions of influence and power throughout government, academia and industry. It would in fact be unbelievable if such a thing did not exist, since the lust for power and control is as old as human association itself. It is only in the last century, however, that the means for truly global application of that desire has come into existence.

Richard S Courtney
Reply to  Richard S Courtney
October 27, 2019 8:10 am


You ask me,
“Where was there a claim of ‘conspiracy’?”

It is a recurrent theme throughout the article. For example, this paragraph,
“The globalist vision is one world government in which misery is shared equally. The globalists plan ahead and see the threat of starvation which will hit individual nations in sequence (Paul Ehrlich’s timetable was vitiated by the 200% increase in wheat and corn yields originating from the work of Norman Borlaug). Once starvation hits, globalism would have zero traction. Thus, global warming was created as the excuse to bring in one world government with the talk about fighting global warming by giving up meat in our diet. And eating insects instead to get protein. Normally such a loony notion wouldn’t be given the time of day, but it is coming from the United Nations.”

The “loony notion” is not a coincidence of interests because most UN Members (i.e. countries) are run by politicians who do not have an interest in promoting “one world government” which would put all but a handful of them out of power.


Reply to  Richard S Courtney
October 27, 2019 12:36 pm

So there was NO mention of a conspiracy.

As I said, there is a convergence of interests. If you are a socialist, how can you redistribute the world’s wealth? By having one government. If you believe Man is destroying the climate, how can you stop it? With only one world government. If you want to initiate a program of global population reduction, how to you get the programs in place? One world government. If you want to end war BETWEEN nations, how do you stop them? Have but one ‘country’.

In each case, you have groups wanting to dominate and rule on one issue. They don’t seek to be THE rulers (though there is no shortage of those who believe the will be among them), they only want to push through their own agendas. Some want power, some believe in socialism, some seek to end poverty, some want to save the world, some want to end war, some want to reduce the population (ensuring the survival of their descendants), some want to protect animals, but in each case, they believe they can achieve their goals best by aligning with the globalist drive.

THEY are the globalists. No conspiracy required.

Reply to  Richard S Courtney
October 27, 2019 8:49 am

RSC: Typical response groomed by the propaganda machine. “Conspiracy theorist” is right up there with racist, secularist, nationalist, Capitalist, and any other “ist” that’s conveniently used to attack someone. The propagandists count on the smears to keep their narrative alive and legions of useful idiots to sow the doubt.

David Archibald
Reply to  Richard S Courtney
October 27, 2019 9:12 am

President Trump called them globalists. President Trump did. President Trump.

Joel O’Bryan
Reply to  Richard S Courtney
October 27, 2019 9:25 am

Strong claims require solid strong evidence:

In Soros’ own words he provides it openly. And he puts his substantial wealth towards his views of globalism, and a 1 world order run by the rich and powerful where nations effectively have ceded their sovereignty.

Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
October 27, 2019 4:42 pm

He has his own set of weird dangerous views and he calls Xi Jinping and China dangerous 🙂

Thanks for the link I had not seen that.

Reply to  LdB
October 27, 2019 7:55 pm

Like most of the Western ‘elite’, Soros wants a globalist world that he runs. Not a globalist world that China runs.

October 27, 2019 6:05 am

The people of China today are much better at replication than innovation. They wouldn’t be nearly where they are today and not be a credible growing military threat had we not tried to bring them into the fold using capitalism and had instead left them in their relative isolation in the 60’s. And even as they have grown in technology and sophistication they still cannot feed, fuel, or educate their own population. They have failed to even put much of a dent in Ascariasis (infection with giant round worm) which runs rampant in the their rural population.

Nate McClure
October 27, 2019 6:14 am

Sorry but I don’t see where political commentary is useful on this site; there are at least a million other sites for that purpose. I value WUWT for many reasons, one of which is that the posts (if not the commentary) are largely devoid of distracting political views. To me, expressions of political views, even ones I agree with, lessen the credibility of the valuable scientific work.

Reply to  Nate McClure
October 27, 2019 6:36 am

If you are talking about CAGW, you’re also talking politics.

Nate McClure
Reply to  SMC
October 27, 2019 8:27 am

But not necessarily vice versa. The connection here is tenuous at best.

Reply to  Nate McClure
October 27, 2019 7:02 am

Then don’t read it! Plenty of other posts to comment on.

Nate McClure
Reply to  rah
October 27, 2019 9:15 am

Actually I didn’t read it but that’s not the point. I think it degrades the credibility of WUWT to air non relevant political discussions.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Nate McClure
October 27, 2019 12:41 pm

The Climate Change Scam is intimately a part of the Global Socialist-Round Table-Club of Rome efforts to impose a New World Order.

An order whereby the middle class affluence of the West is gutted and reduced to serfdom. Whereby the billionaire Globalist-elites hide in shadows from public view but are the political puppet masters pulling the strings at the ECB, Federal Reserve, the EU ministerial council, IMF, World Bank, etc. If you examine how Macron and Trudeau were positioned, you’ll see this puppetry at work. The forces paying for and supporting the fight against Brexit, paying for and organizing the Remain protests last week in London, all directly come from this group of globalist-elites.

The Climate Change Scam, funded by the billionaire GreenSlime (as I call them), is intimately linked to the End of Affordable Energy for the middle class by the elites. Saving fossil fuel resources and mineral resources for the elites and their children to consume far into the future. They see the resource depletion as a threat to their future, a future where they still see themselves and their grandchildren flying in private jets and mega-yachts to exotic locales whilst the peasants toil away.

This is made abundantly clear by their staunch resistance to continued affordable energy for the masses via nuclear powered electrical generation. Instead they want high priced, unreliable wind and solar power to hobble the middle class and funnel their wealth to them via high energy costs. Everytime someone digs behind the scenes of some protest anti-fosile fuel energy, or anti-nuclear power, or environmental movement, and “follows the money” the same batch of billionaire names keeps coming up: Bloomberg, Steyer, Rockefellers, Soros, Annenbergs, Hewletts. It couldn’t be more clear what is happening, and where the funding for the climate change coordinated disinformation campaign is coming from.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
October 27, 2019 7:32 pm

A good analysis in my opinion Joel.

Reply to  Nate McClure
October 27, 2019 1:24 pm

And yet above you said: “But not necessarily vice versa. The connection here is tenuous at best.”

David Blenkinsop
Reply to  Nate McClure
October 27, 2019 12:01 pm

I find the political commentary on globalism here to be pretty readable. Anything that helps to shed light on “why the climate hysteria” is welcome, basically.

Where I would chip in a note of puzzlement, though, is on the claim made in the article that “the whole increase in Afghanistan’s population has been paid for by the U.S. taxpayer”, because Afghanistan buys US wheat? Aside from anything that is sent in to feed any troops deployed, how is U.S. wheat paid for by the taxpayer? I mean, no fair counting U.S. agriculture and/or export subsidies — if Afghanistan didn’t buy the stuff with those cost benefits included, presumably some other country would! That’s not the same as what the article says, that the food was ‘paid for’ by U.S. taxpayers?

Reply to  David Blenkinsop
October 27, 2019 1:03 pm

The wheat in Afghanistan is bought from neighboring countries, and Pakistan. Most comes from Pakistan. The US taxpayer sends $s to help with the purchase, and ensures the distribution of it.

John Shepherd
October 27, 2019 6:16 am

Cecil Rhodes a globalist? Only in the sense that “The Sun Never Sets on the British Empire.” Rhodes was a British Imperialist — emphasis on British. That is the epitomy of nationalism. If Mr. Archibald does not understand the difference then anything else he said was only correct by accident.

Richard S Courtney
Reply to  John Shepherd
October 27, 2019 7:32 am

John Shepherd,

Well said! Hear! Hear!


Mark Whitney
Reply to  John Shepherd
October 27, 2019 7:58 am

The Rhodes Scholarships were endowed to elevate a particular type of individual to prominence, as Rhodes himself put it men who were ruthless, cunning and not afflicted with an abundance of moral compunction. Mr. Archibald understands the distinction well. I think you have missed it since the essence of globalism is to impose ones will and cultural biases on others. As a Brit, Rhodes bias was of course Anglophilic, and that remains the dominant force, though it is opposed by such other constructs as the Russo-Sino alliance which the Western network has diligently struggled against.
Nationalism is not necessarily imperialist. Indeed it does not seek to dilute itself by global inclusion. By contrast he globalist is a ‘citizen of the world’ and such was Rhodes.

Reply to  John Shepherd
October 27, 2019 7:58 am

Let’s get real here. The globalists are talking about empire! The same people who bitterly denounce ‘colonialism’ have in mind a global imperial project. For what purpose? The Romans offered subject peoples security, justice, and prosperity. What do the globalists offer?

The Chinese Communist Party also has global imperial ambitions. So, the Chinese are globalist competitors. The Trump Republicans oppose the Chinese imperial project. The Democrats not so much.

John Shepherd
Reply to  Adam
October 27, 2019 9:45 am

But Rhodes was not talking about a universal empire but a British one. That’s why Britain had rivals. They didn’t care if the Germans or French had an Empire only that they would be inferior to Great Britain. They did have concerns about the United States because we were the bastard child who might someday usurp their patrimony.

Reply to  John Shepherd
October 27, 2019 1:07 pm

One could argue that Imperialism and globalization are interrelated because imperialism is one country taking over all other countries, whereas globalization being one group taking over all other countries.

It is a difference without a distinction.

October 27, 2019 7:02 am

I find it interesting to note that even the Chinese Communists had to turn to a form of Capitalism to save their government. We might be concerned as members of our corrupt and entrenched political class or political wannabes wish to move the USA towards Socialism.
These politicians are the ones still trying to beat the dead horse of CAGW down the road.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  TeeWee
October 27, 2019 12:56 pm

They turned to capitalism and a free market because the central economic failure of Communism is Central Planning. Central planning is vastly cumbersome and unable to respond to rapidly changing conditions that invalidate the Central Plan (the 5 year plan typically). Market oriented economies where their is light regulation are nimble as entrepreneurs able to keep most of what they make, thus driven by self-serving greed, continually remake trading and manufacturing ties and structures to better efficiencies because that maximizes profits.
So the central economic planning of Communism is the real fatality coming out of the 20th Century’s lessons on Socialism. Germany’s national socialists of the 1930’s allowed the German industrialists to prosper and build their wealth under the war economy because of their ability to rapidly adjust to changing economic realities was far more efficient that Stalin’s Soviet central planning.

October 27, 2019 10:15 am

“Historian Francis Fukuyama called it “the end of history” because only good things would happen thereafter. Mankind’s ideological evolution had ended and Western liberal democracy would be the final form of government.”

Whatever you think of the rest of the article, that bit right there is a keeper. I’ll put it on the wall right next to Bill Gate’s quote.

I’m watching liberal democracy evolve (devolve?). Liberal turns into hedonism. Democracy turns into a facade.

China doesn’t need to start a war.

Mark S.
October 27, 2019 12:41 pm

This article about some experts in foreign policy give the view about those (e.g. John Mearsheimer) against liberalism.

October 27, 2019 4:37 pm

Two words I haven’t seen mentioned: emissions and pork.

China currently leads the world in CO2 emissions and continues to increase emissions and sell coal plants worldwide but the AGW hypocrites say nothing about this while berating the USA.

China’s main source of protein is pork. China and many other countries have been hit with African Swine Fever. This has wiped out half of China’s massive swine industry. China is in a world of hurt.

Thomas Searles
October 27, 2019 4:43 pm

Oceania is at was with East Asia? Oh Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.

October 27, 2019 7:18 pm

Success in politics comes from winning friends, praising potential voters, and making alliances.
Conversely, alienating and belittling all your potential voters and allies is the surest way to political failure and the ending-up on ash-heap of history.

Eric Stevens
October 27, 2019 7:34 pm

A most extraordinary thing is that not only can the path to today’s drive for globalism be traced back for at least a thousand years but the development of the moment has been laid out in some detail by Bailey, Leigh and Lincoln in their books ‘Holy Blood, Holy Grail’ and ‘The Messianic Legacy’.

Conspiracy theories have always abounded and my initial reaction to my first reading of their almost tediously laid out description of the growth of political movements from as early as the Cathar heresy continuing through the Knights Templar and the Prieure de Sion was that the authors were yet another team trying to make something out of nothing. Yet their books seem carefully researched and are loaded with references.

There are sections of their second book headed ‘The Elusive “American Contingent”‘, ‘Resistance, Chivalry and the United States of Europe’ ‘The return of De Gaulle’ and ‘Secret Powers behind the Covert Groups’.

The books were written in the early 1980s and it is conceivable that the politics of the succeeding 35 years are no more than the continuation of the thread they describe. It’s not directly relevant to the present situation but most interesting if the connection is valid.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Eric Stevens
October 28, 2019 6:04 am

What it boils down to is there are always groups of humans who want to impose their will on all the rest of the humans. That’s why the U.S. Constitution is so important. It is the best effort of humans to prevent authoritarian rule.

The difference between today and years past is we have mass communication and a lot of very rich people who will, and do, use it to further their political agenda. There are a lot of Elites out there working against the interests of the average person.

October 28, 2019 11:06 am

(climate) Simon says jump and they all jumped and enjoyed the game until they got tired and moved on to another half-baked children’s trick game.

Johann Wundersamer
November 3, 2019 3:25 am

Italy never knew himself as a “Nation” till Dante wrote his “divine comedy” – in the Vulgata: the common language of “the ordinary people” of Italy.

Until then the people of Italy thought to be strewn folks with differing language.

With Dante the suddenly realised to be one Nation with differing Dialects in the respecting vicinities :

United to get rid of Pope’s domination, Princes arrogance and Habsburg undeserved ruling, reining the European States.

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