Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Joe Biden’s low energy climate ideas are leaving young Democrat activists cold.
Iowa teens delighted as Greta Thunberg leads unexpected climate strike
Chris Robinson in Iowa City
@thenoyz
Sat 5 Oct 2019 09.17 AEST…
Claire Carlson, a senior studying geoscience, environmental science and business at UI from Ottumwa had joined friends from the Environmental Science Club at the rally. “Its nice to finally see a large group of people come together and address the problem,” she said. “I think Greta’s done a really good job of bringing a voice to that especially at a really young age. I think it means that more people are starting to understand the need for impactful legislation with regards to climate change.”
Carlson, like her friend Emma Hartke, will be able to caucus next February for a Democratic candidate. “I think Elizabeth Warren has a really good plan for climate change,” said Hartke. Carlson favours the young mayor from South Bend, Indiana, Pete Buttigieg, but Warren is the name on most people’s lips when asked which way they’re currently leaning.
“There are still some centrists who like to play both sides on climate … such as Joe Biden,” said Derek Torres who has moved to Iowa City from Atlanta. “They always speak in terms of jobs … but if there’s no air or water there’s no jobs,” he reasoned.
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Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/oct/04/greta-thunberg-iowa-climate-strike
Will Biden’s plan to allow some industrial civilization to survive count against him the primaries? Or are radicals like Claire Carlson part of a noisy but unimportant minority?
The radicals think they run the Democrat party. If they are ignored, they will stay home on election day.
I can also see them rioting to gain attention at the convention as well.
MarkW …
I can also see them rioting to gain attention at the convention as well.
Yes, as a Milwaukee resident, I am not looking forward to it.
More likely they will protest on election day making it impossible to reach the polling places. Then only their Write In Votes will count
“….they will stay home on election day….” Don’t toy with me, Mark W. 🙂
I’ve been advising my more radical acquaintances to vote for the Green party.
“There are still some centrists who like to play both sides on climate … such as Joe Biden,” said Derek Torres who has moved to Iowa City from Atlanta. “They always speak in terms of jobs … but if there’s no air or water there’s no jobs,” he reasoned.
No air or water is hyperbole of course, but it illustrates the mind set produced by 30 years of brainwashing.
It’s not just hyperbole, it’s backwards. The places with the best environment are the places that can afford to protect the environment. Poor folks can’t afford that luxury.
A robust economy protects the environment. If you compare the American environment with the Soviet environment, you could argue that capitalism protects the environment.
I could also mention the garbage dump that LA and SF are becoming, but that would risk getting into a full blown rant. 🙂
The world has actually run two experiments using free markets to test the outcome on the environment, the well-being of the common man, and the treatment of the politically disfavored.
The control group and the test group had almost the exact same people, starting conditions, and geography. The two experiments are called East Germany and North Korea!
The pollution from the small bits of heavy industry they managed to create in East Germany was atrocious. The poverty was revealed to be appalling after the wall came down. The Stasi was one of the most oppressive police state forces in history.
We can’t even see behind the wall in North Korea, but we do know that the peasants are starving. Who knows about the pollution, but I expect it is awful. They did actually manage to nuke a mountain into submission.
I guess the same people that think free market economies are bad for the populace and the environment are the same people that think humans will cease to exist due to climate change in the next 15 years.
I don’t know, from what I’ve seen speculated, that mountain may have gotten it’s final revenge.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/report-200-dead-in-cave-in-at-north-korea-nuclear-test-site
Rocks Fall. Everyone Dies.
Of course US bomb testing had no negative effects on the environment, so they are well placed to point the finger at NK for damaging the inside of an excavation in a mountain.
“Of course US bomb testing had no negative effects on the environment”
Nothing long-lasting. Those atolls are abundant with life now.
Greg, I don’t see anyone other than you talking about environmental damage.
Regarding garbage dumps in LA & SF: As an environmental engineer the 90’s I did a short-term study of a landfill in Mexico City. Hopefully the LA & SF landfills don’t have the poor, including women & children going through the garbage w/ trucks roiling by – yet.
It’s much more convenient for the garbage pickers. The huge festering piles of garbage are right downtown where they live. link
More recycling, right? /s
As a semi-retired engineer also, both Structural & Civil, I have worked on Landfill design, maintenance, & monitoring, & it’s amazing that until relatively recently, certain types of “traders”, could hang around, & on some UK sites & still do, (they now run many of them!!!!), waiting for the occasional “bargin” to be disposed of, even trying to grab stuff from the back seat of my car I had no intention of disposing of!!! Having said that, in this throw-away society, make-do & mend is a thing of the dim & distant past, that my parents, as products of WWII, rarely ever did as new stuff was in short supply! Also having said this, I also benefitted several years ago disposing of unwanted items at such a facility, I picked up a perfectly servicable two-ring portable camping-gas stove with oven/grill for £5.00 (around $7-8 although I no longer camp) that somebody clearly nolonger wanted, thought it might come in useful in the event of a power-cut I could at least make myself a hot drink & meal, haven’t had to use it yet but give the Greenalists half a chance & we’ll ALL need one, regularly! 😉
Speaking as a South African, you don’t really need ‘Greens’ to deliver power outages. All you need to do is to staff all of your vital national services (electricity, water, rail etc) with ‘comrades’, ejecting the competent staffers in the process. Selection by means other than competence is required (See! No mention of ‘colour’ at all!) Then, subtly adjust the national laws to favour ‘buddies’ as suppliers, and Bobs Your Uncle! All of the national services go broke, services drop to a minimum, and a few people get to have huge bank accounts overseas!
See! No ‘green’ (except for the colour of currency) at all!
Allan the Brit,
No make-do & mend needed at Yellow Knife –
https://www.google.com/search?q=dumping+ground+yellow+knife&oq=dumping+ground+yellow+knife+&aqs=chrome.
Don’t let yourself be deceived; that pictured living room isn’t arranged in a furniture shup but on the dumping ground of Yellow Knife!
LA has 8 years to clean up. They are hosts for the 2028 Olympic Games . Of course if Warren wins the 2020 election then the Games might be cancelled to prevent spectators flying in trailing clouds of CO2 – oh the horror!
It will be interesting to see how the western athletes perform, given that they will by then have been denied meat and dairy products by the EU, Warren ,AOC et al for many years.
Indian, Chinese, Brazilian and Caribbean athletes should humiliate the US and UK athletes – even assuming the latter reach Olympic qualifying standards.
But perhaps vegan products will provide all the protein and vitamins that an athlete needs- it will be an interesting experiment.
Have you seen the claims Brazil is making about their CO2 offset payments? They want $22 BN in back-pay. So far their promised billions have amounted to 2 BN. They have not taken this cheating lying down.
In the June pre-COP meeting they brought the show to a stop demanding that Paris Accord Article 6.2 and 6.4 be linked to a set-aside for less developed countries (LDC’s). The President of Brazil is unyielding on this point about getting a chunky share of carbon trading money for the LDC’s. Look for this issue in the reports from the NYC meeting, and the one a week before COP 25.
Compare this high level real world politicking with the pathetic protests of children and bans on plastic straws. There is a lot going on and the relationships between nations are re-aligning. It’s not about the weather, it is about a necessary change in the way the world works. A toothless UN run by weaklings is not working for the poor. It turns out they are aware of that and are not going to take it anymore.
97% of scientists agree that there will be no air or water in 12 years. We MUST ACT NOW.
100% of Catholic Priest believe they are in the right Church so you should believe Too!
100% of Imam believe the Islam is a Right religion so you should believe too!
YOU MUST ACT NOW!!!!
Why do you suggest it’s hyperbole? These loons (and their even loonier audience) are dead serious … they actually believe mankind is eradicating the air and water. Gov. Jerry Brown INSISTED CA was locked into a never ending drought, and we all need to be taxed and fee-ed for our water use until we are either parched or broke … or both. Nevermind, CA has had three continuous years of record rainfall and snowpack.
Papa Joe has got a problem – Burisma Holdings, the Ukrainian oil and gas firm.
All the trees in the forest are about to fall.
Not to mention creepy behavior with females, especially little girls, failing health and a weakening mind. His chances are slim.
Say it ain’t so Joe.
However he is the best of the Dim candidates.
And how sad is it that the best the Dims can put forth as a candidate is sleepy, creepy Uncle Joe?
If being creepy with woman and allowing your kids to benefit from your political position are problems for republicans, then why on earth do they support Donald?
Because leftist-marxist-pigs suck, that’s why.
As much as I dislike Trump’s personal behavior, he wasn’t creepy with woman [sic], he was forthright. Biden is just plain creepy.
“As much as I dislike Trump’s personal behavior, he wasn’t creepy with woman [sic], he was forthright. Biden is just plain creepy.”
Huh? Bragging that being rich gives you access to woman’s genitals is pretty creepy in my book. In fact it is sordid.
Trump has/has had:
4 court filings for sexual assault. Including one by his wife
14 allegations by (separate) woman of sexual assault
5 allegations of pageant dressing room inappropriate behaviour
… hell there is a whole wiki page on his dodgy creepy behaviour.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations
And Joe…. fondled a woman’s hair. Wow and you think Joe is the creepy one?
Like the rest of the trolls, if Simon couldn’t make up stuff about people who get between him and free stuff, then he wouldn’t have anything to say.
Give it up Simon. It didn’t work in 2016 and it won’t in 2020. I would like to say I’m surprised that’s the best you can come up with but I’m not.
“5 allegations of pageant dressing room inappropriate behaviour”
Yeah, one beauty contestant complained that Trump, who owned the pageant at the time, told her she was too fat! That’s serious! She ought to sue Trump.
And all those other 14 who allege sexual harrassement from Trump ought to file lawsuits, too. But none of them have and that ought to tell you something. It tells me their story cannot be backed up by facts or they would be in court in a New York minute (47 seconds).
Democrats are good at ginning up sexual harrassment victims and whistleblowers. But all that hard work on their part never seems to get them the results they want. That would be because they don’t have any facts to substantiate their charges against Trump. To Democrats, the accusation is good enough. They don’t need to see facts or a conviction before judging someone guilty. If he’s a conservative, he’s gulty, is their mindset. Right, Simon?
“And all those other 14 who allege sexual harrassement from Trump ought to file lawsuits, too. But none of them have and that ought to tell you something.”
It tells me they weren’t going to take on the stress. Most sexual assaults go un reported let alone prosecuted. And only the bravest take on a man like Trump who is very rich and can hire the best snake lawyers to get him out of trouble. That’s without all those who sit around and say it’s the woman’s fault.
You are ignoring Biden’s roaming hands on little girls. There are numerous videos showing this including his hand on one girls chest in which she pulled away and he goes in again.
“You are ignoring Biden’s roaming hands on little girls. There are numerous videos showing this including his hand on one girls chest in which she pulled away and he goes in again.”
I watched that. Nothing in it. Is that the best you have?
Can’t argue against a xxxx like you that won’t accept reality. Sorry.
Simon October 6, 2019 at 10:35 am
Well Simon it’s all kind of moot. Here is a possibility for you to run with.
A couple days AFTER the Dems went public with the whistle-blower gambit the Ukrainians opened an investigation of the Bidens. Figure it out, its a slam dunk. what happens next after they indict the Bidens and ask the U.S. to extradite them? Will Trump wave diplomatic immunity or with great fanfare came to his rescue.
What fun
“What fun”
Sure is. I see another whistle blower has come forward. Most fun that can be had with your pants on.
Simon…”whistleblower “ 😉
Simon, I cannot wait to get your view on how much fun it has been the day after the 2020 election.
Although it may be merely your pants on fire right now, I am betting it will have spread to your hair by that day.
“Simon, I cannot wait to get your view on how much fun it has been the day after the 2020 election.”
If it is Trump it will be a serious indictment of the American people, that despite all the corruption, (this Ukraine stuff is one of many) lying, bullying, womanising, self serving and all round bollocks they think he is the best they can elect. But on the positive side I have had a lifetimes entertainment watching him leap from one crisis to another. Maybe the next four years will give me another lifetimes worth.
“If it is Trump it will be a serious indictment of the American people, that despite all the corruption, (this Ukraine stuff is one of many) lying, bullying, womanising, self serving and all round bollocks they think he is the best they can elect.”
Simon has the Democrat talking points down pat.
Simon, you couldn’t prove any one of those charges. If you try, please do so in a new thread so we can really discuss these Democrat lies. You should probably just let it go, though, because the Democrats have been tryig to prove those things for three years and haven’t been able to do so yet. Why do you think that is? I think it is because they can’t make a case. I don’t think you can, either. It’s easy to make charges. It’s a lot harder to prove your case. So prove your case, Simon, instead of just making charges.
“I see another whistle blower has come forward.”
I think the Democrats have them lined up like ducks in a row. This Democrat conspiracy is not going to succeed. If this new whistleblower/Obama flunky is going to comment on the Ukranian telephone call then it is a waste of time since we already have the transcript of the call. So what could another person add to that?
Speaking of transcripts, I think most of us here are aware of how the House Intelligence Chairman, Rep. Shiff, got up in front of the entire world and read a totally bogus rendition of the Ukanians telephone call where he claimed Trump was bullying the Ukranian president about looking into Biden; repeated these threats eight times, and told the Ukranian president not to call Trump back until he had accomlished Trump’s demands. None of the conversation Shiff related bore any resemblance to the actual conversation, which we know because we now have the actual transcript of the call.
I have a theory on Shiff’s narrative. I think Shiff thought Trump would not make the Ukranian telephone call public, so the Shiff narrative was based on this, and this way Shiff could make all these charges against Trump, and without the transcript being released, Trump would have a big problem trying to explain what happened.
What I can’t explain is why Shiff read that false narrative *after* the transcript of the call was released which made it plain that Shiff was lying, yet he went ahead and read it to the whole world like it was the truth. That’s kind of crazy when it is so easy to show that he is lying.
The Democrats are pulling every dirty trick they have out of their bag in their efforts to destroy Trump. Nothing is out of bounds for them now. They are like a cornered animal, because they know they are losing to Trump, and this makes them reckless and dangerous.
Sane people should vote the Democrats in Congress out of power. They are a danger to the freedoms of all of us. They have no morals. Power is their God.
Even if the Ukranian charges turn out to be true (which I highly doubt) they are still a big nothing burger.
So what if Trump asked the Ukraine government to investigate Biden’s son.
Obama sic’d the US Justice Dept on his political opponents, and the same people who want to impeach Trump, cheered.
Tom, sane people don’t expect to be able to live forever off of government handouts.
Unfortunately we have reached a point where a majority of voters get more from government every year than they pay in taxes.
Mark W
“Even if the Ukranian charges turn out to be true (which I highly doubt)”
What do yo mean if… Trump has admitted it. And it is in the transcript. “I want you to do me a favour….”
“So what if Trump asked the Ukraine government to investigate Biden’s son.”
Ummm, it is an abuse of power. When Trump is paid by the taxpayer to do the work of the president he is meant to be working for the good of all the people not looking for dirt on an opponent from a foreign power to feather his own nest. The fact you think that is ok is beyond belief and pretty much sums up your moral compass.
“Obama sic’d the US Justice Dept on his political opponents, and the same people who want to impeach Trump, cheered.”
Who and when? Is this another made up Mark story?
“Unfortunately we have reached a point where a majority of voters get more from government every year than they pay in taxes.”
Another made up story…. Reference please?
Also, Bernie Sanders’ heart attack struck Joe too. They are both done. The Dems will nominate Pocahontas to become the first Native American President.
correction Walter, they’ll nominate Fauxcahontas to be the first 0.09% Native American Presidents. All the previous presidents of the last century (at least) likely have a higher percentage of Native American blood since European Americans average 0.18% – twice the amount that Ms. Warren has.
I like “Fauxcahontas” better; it’s closer to “lying, fake Indian”. “Liawatha” is also hilariously true. Never let her hide the fact that she lied for 50 yrs, to gain advantage in admissions and hiring over real Native Americans. If we’re really going to bestow preferences and advantages based on the colors of our skins, then we all should at least follow that immoral, discriminatory, and evil law, until some fair, logical, and moral people finally decide to change it. I hope that we eventually start electing enough of such to Congress. After all, we are a country of laws, even including those which truly suck, having been written and passed by pandering, immoral, short sighted, ignorant fools, in defiance of the Constitution. There is now nothing in the Constitution bestowing either racial or sex preference; so Congress and SCOTUS should quit pretending there is.
“They always speak in terms of jobs … but if there’s no air or water there’s no jobs,” ?
Truly delusional…..
Please tell me that “Claire Carlson, a senior studying geoscience…” is getting failing grades in geoscience and will not be awarded a degree? Hello? This is upsetting to the point that I will go get a drink.
This demonstrates how deficient Greta’s mind really is.
https://twitter.com/JunkNpc/status/1177662249273610243
Bright enough to rule the Western world, with a teleprompter.
Much like an Obama clone, actually.
Obama off teleprompter looked a lot like Greta when she didn’t have one.
Guardian article:
Of course shutting off the brain is something she is especially good at doing.
What plan? To tax us, get rid of Fossil fuels? Spend trillions to convert everything to unreliable Ev’s? Who is going to change the weather, so its constantly sunny and warm, with light evening rains 😐
Democratic candidate. “I think Elizabeth Warren has a really good plan for climate change,” said Hartke
Ron…Errrr that is environmental, business and ‘geoscience’. Busy girl. Getting rid of the classic term Geology for the science opened a crack that rotted its guts out – made it a companion of social science and political science. These ‘sciences’ should never have been permitted to abuse the term science itself. Michael Mann is a ‘geoscientist’, Carlsens and Hartkes are geoscientists, and we’re all geoscientists together, tra la.
Here in Australia we have seen the almost total destruction of Geology as a science, many excellent departments with long proud histories were merged with Geography departments and we have seen the change of name to “geoscience”. It saddens me to think of the loss of all that knowledge, particularly considering our national wealth is heavily dependent on geology.
Here comes Hillary 🙏
Yes, insanity rules.
no air or water…..
If you’re going to jump the shark…might as well go full tilt
..the planet will spin off into space
You realize the gravity of the situation.
From the Guardian asking for donations: “Our editorial independence means we set our own agenda and voice our own opinions.”
Journalism is now about the reporters own opinions.
Bingo John. The No Agenda podcast played several legacy news clips reporting how Trump “said” he wants a moat around the wall. All the reports sounded similar from Lester Holt to PBS. The story is from a New York Times editorial member who wrote a book.
Duh… that’s what editorials are…. opinions.
Duh….Editorials are supposed to be objective.
Like everything else a journalist comments on.
That’s their job.
“Duh….Editorials are supposed to be objective.”
What complete nonsense.
“An editorial, leading article (US) or leader (UK), is an article written by the senior editorial staff or publisher of a newspaper, magazine, or any other written document, often unsigned. Australian and major United States newspapers, such as The New York Times[1] and The Boston Globe,[2] often classify editorials under the heading “opinion”.
Have to disagree slightly with you there HotScot. Editorials are opinion based. Opinions don’t have to be objective, even if that opinion is coming from a so-called Journalist. What they shouldn’t be, however, is driving the news content. Editorials are for the editorial page, not as part of the news coverage. It’s fine, for example, for an editorial to go on and on about how awful the editorialist thinks Trump is whereas it’s not ok for a news article to similarly do so. News articles should be giving you objective facts *not* opinions.
That would make it an opinion magazine, not an objective news outlet.
Exactly Jeff
Simon, here’s a hint for you: Editorials are supposed to remain on the editorial pages, they’re not supposed to drive the news content.
“Our editorial independence means we set our own agenda and voice our own opinions.”
News organizations are not supposed to have agendas, they’re supposed to objectively report the news.
News organizations are not supposed to voice their own opinions in the news they report, they’re supposed to objectively report the news.
leave the editorials for the editorial page, not the news page.
“no air or water….” Where DO they get this stuff? How disconnected are they from reality? Just asking, because I am completely gobsmacked by that phrase.
Biden is only near the top of the polls because his name was the only one on the list any of the idiot Democrat voters had ever heard of before.
Zero chance of getting the nomination once people actually see and hear him. He was never that attractive, and he’s lost just about all the attraction he never had.
Doc you have to look at his competition. The rest of the pack are so far to the insane left that Biden actually looks good in comparison to any sane Democrat voters left in the party. The only question remains: is there enough sanity left in the Democrat rank and file to enable Biden to get the nomination, or will the party go full left-insane are choose one of the far left candidates?
Universities do function thanks to alumni fund raising… Time to stop giving .
It’s hilariously delicious to see that the choice for dems is between Sleepy Dopey Gropey Joe and Dizzy Lizzy Climate Screechy. They know that in the general election, Biden has the best shot of beating Trump, but that’s about all he has going for him, but they really like Warren and think she will energize the party, and hopefully their base. But Biden has little if any chance of beating Trump. The Warrenists will tend to sit the election out, and while he might pick up some crossover votes, it won’t be enough.
Forget about Sleepy Dopey Gropey Joe and Dizzy Lizzy Climate Screechy …. as well as the other “electioneering” Dem hopefuls that have announced their POTUS wishes ….. because a new “name” will be submitted for a “floor vote” at the Dem Convention ….. and who will be selected to challenge Trump in the General.
Ha – that would be even more hilarious. Talk about self-destruct. I assume you mean Clinton? Yeah, good luck with that, if that happens.
Hillary has been making a case for herself being nominated for president lately tell anyone who would listen about her 66 million “endorsements”.
It’s a pretty powerful argument to make. None of the other candidates have gotten such numbers. The Democrats may end up desperate enough to nominate Hillary before it’s all over. Biden will go down in Ukranian controversy, and Warren has been caught in another lie, and Bernie may not be healthy enough (apparently his heart muscle was damaged to some extent unknown), so that doesn’t leave any viable candidates. Yeah, I know they all think they are viable candidates, but they’re not.
Hillary is going to be looking better and better to a lot of people.
Of course, If they nominate Hillary, Trump will just beat her even worse than the first time. Trump has picked up support since his election. My guess is Hillary has lost a lot of support since the election because of things that have become public since that time.
And Hillary is hip-deep in the Russia/Ukranian/Obama administration collusion to undermine the Trump campaign. I expect some of that to become public in the course of the ongoing investigations.
Biden is the poster boy for useless political hack. His life long tenure on the public’s dime is only an accomplishment for his self dealing family. Meanwhile uber green candidate Elizabeth Warren has been caught in yet another self serving lie about her life experience.
Most famously she falsely claimed to be a Native American when climbing the academic career ladder. She has now been busted for lying about why she lost a position teaching special needs children. She has been claiming that she was fired for being visibly pregnant. Based on her own words during a 2008 interview she did not have the proper credentials for the position. Went back to school to get them and decided to pursue law instead. Big difference. Another big lie.
So politicians who lie and are self serving is a problem for you? Mmmm I wonder who you gonna vote for this coming election then.
The one who’s self serving lies got us out of the Paris Accord and gutted the EPA. That ones never claimed Saint status. It’s the end state of complete polarization. Believe you ask for it so now you get it. I wasted allot of breath warning your side about it. You pushed on. Enjoy.
Simon
Any lying B’stard that isn’t a Democrat lying B’stard, which they all are.
“Any lying B’stard that isn’t a Democrat lying B’stard, which they all are.”
So vote by party no matter what they do or say? I say that’s crazy, but hey… each to their own.
Simon
Why would anyone vote for socialism? It’s failed in every meaningful environment it has operated in.
What you entirely miss is that there is no longer an uneducated working class therefore, the labour movement, as noble as that particular entity was, no longer functions as such. It operates as a move to an ideological, failed political condition because they no longer have any other cause to exist.
Our labour party in the UK is led by an overtly, IRA supporting Marxist, with an openly communist supporting second in command. They are telling the country that they want to go back to nationalised industries, which dragged the UK to the verge of bankruptcy in the 30 years following WW2.
We were branded the poor man of Europe. Thank’s in no small part to Margaret Thatcher, we’re now the 5th richest economy in the world.
So yes, up to a point, vote by party, and if you have any sense you would vote for anything but a party that supports socialism.
I have voted Conservative all my life (Republican equivalent). If the do not deliver Brexit on the 31st of October I shall vote for The Brexit Party, as will I suspect, the vast majority of the country because they represent the right wing of our nation.
The single most important man in European politics today is Nigel Farage. He, almost single handedly, drove the Brexit agenda and forced the Conservatives to hold a long overdue referendum, and is now the politician every political party fears most.
Being that Brexit will have politically seismic repercussions across the globe, he is possibly the single most important politician in the world right now, and he has never even held a constituency seat in his life.
So am I motivated by ‘party’? Is much of the UK motivated by ‘party’?
If you are simple enough to believe anyone is, you don’t deserve the privilege of a vote. You might also want to watch and understand the video posted below.
People vote for socialism because they are caring people. They care so much for their fellow man that they are willing to vote for unlimited taxes on other people in order to prove it.
HotScot
Obviously your concept of socialism is different to mine. I think Sweden and Norway have got it pretty much right. By all accounts they are some of the happiest people on the planet so i don’t know where you got your “It’s failed in every meaningful environment it has operated in.”
Like most socialists, Simon defines a lie as anything that disagrees with his belief system.
Markw
“Like most socialists, Simon defines a lie as anything that disagrees with his belief system.”
Speaking of lying, still waiting for you to justify your “there are more cold records than heat” comment the other day.
MarkW
And by the way this …”“Like most socialists, Simon defines a lie as anything that disagrees with his belief system.””… is a lie. I don’t think because I don’t agree it’s a lie. You say it a lot so clearly you think it’s true, but it’s bollocks.
Doesn’t matter how many times you provide the evidence, Simon will always pretend that you haven’t.
Markw
“Doesn’t matter how many times you provide the evidence, Simon will always pretend that you haven’t.”
Just once would do….
What’s depressing is how stupid these activists are when it comes to reducing emissions.
Molten salt Small Modular reactors, burning either Thorium or Uranium is the obvious answer, along with the transition to electric vehicles, which will accelerate once lower priced EVs (from VW, etc) hit the showrooms. Molten salt reactors cost about half as much as conventional nuclear, have zero defects and produce nuclear wastes that return to background radioactive levels 10 times sooner than
current nuclear wastes (300 years) They also can produce power at 4 cents per kWhr, levelized, which is cheaper than any other power technology.
ColMosby
Didn’t a certain US President claim that the state would be paying consumers to take the electricity from the (then) new nuclear technology?
Biden is Pro-Choice, he want’s to abort the baby and keep her, too.
Watched the debates & none of those candidates could beat Trump when his ads come out about the economy & jobs & the Demos know it. You watch, the Demo convention will be tied up & Hillary will be drafted to lead the party. After all, in their minds she already beat him once.
I saw an ad by Trump on tv today and in it Trump said: “This is not the time for “Mr. Niceguy”!
I thought that was pretty funny. And true, too.
Trump does not suffer fools gladly, and is quite blunt about it. That rubs some people the wrong way, but I love it! It’s about time someone spoke Truth to the Elites of the Western world. Trump tells them the truth and they hate him for it. Trump doesn’t care.
Of course he plays both sides…he’s a politician.
Just like Warren, he has done basically nothing in his lifetime of politics regarding the issue. And just like 99.99% of the climate change crusade, he doesn’t live like climate change is an issue.
All talk to get votes and funds based on which way the wind is blowing.
Just read a breaking news article on the conservative buzz. Dems lose it begging Hillary to please run. I don’t think I could put up seeing her constantly on tv till next November.
These people still haven’t figured out what is going on. They still hold on to their preconceptions with not a bit of curiosity to find out why this “populist” movement has sprouted and appears to be growing. They cannot accept that the grass roots of the electorate, what they used to call “the silent majority”, have not only turned against them but views them as an enemy that threatens their liberties, opportunities, the very fiber of this nation, let alone try to find out why. Thus they play their political games to try and destroy the POTUS in DC and everyone knows it and thus the basket of Deplorables grows larger, bolder, and ever more vocal and they still ignore it all. Who would have imagined Nancy Pelosi being jeered by 100’s of sign bearing people that came out to “greet” her in Greenville, SC? Elizabeth Warren experiencing the same thing at the airport in Nevada? The “silent majority” is silent no more and getting angrier, louder, and more animated every day. They fully recognize the utter destruction of their way of life with a “Green New Deal” in any form.
Great 27 minute video that explores the reasons for the rise of the commoners in Britain and here.
‘Deplorables: Trump, Brexit and the Demonised Masses’
“They fully recognize the utter destruction of their way of life with a “Green New Deal” in any form.”
Agreed. No aspect of the GND is acceptable. None of it.
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Maybe Joe will send Corn Pop after them. 😉
Yeah, Corn Pop could team up with Cory Booker’s imaginary friend, T-Bone. They would make a formidable team.
The fake, used car salesman, young girl hair sniffing, white toothed Biden disgusts me.
Whoever wins the Democratic primaries will romp it in over the Donald in 13 months time.
Donald Trump BROKE THE LAW, using foreign powers to dig up dirt on his likely opponent. It’s that simple. Is this how US citizens want their leaders to behave in future? I don’t think so.
This observation, from the other side of the Pacific Ocean, from someone who up to 18 months ago, was defending Donald.
“Donald Trump BROKE THE LAW, using foreign powers to dig up dirt on his likely opponent. It’s that simple. Is this how US citizens want their leaders to behave in future? I don’t think so.”
I’m afraid you have been fooled by Leftwing media spin, Geoff. Trump didn’t ask the Ukranians to dig up dirt on Biden. Trump wants an investigation of Biden in connection with the attempted undermining of Trump’s 2016 campaign and in connection with possible corruption involving his son and threats to the Ukranian government using U.S. taxpayer money as the club. These things are worthy of investigation, presidential campaign or no presidential campaign, since the first transgression of the Democrats undermines the whole American electoral system.
How about this, Geoff: What you are accusing Trump of doing has already been done by Biden and the Obama administration and the Hillary Clinton campaign who actually *did* dig up dirt on Trump and his campaign aides using Russian and Ukranian disinformation which ended up harming Trump’s campaign as Manafort was forced to resign as a result.
You are correct, Geoff, we don’t want those kinds of people governing us. The real criminals and traitors here are the Democrats, the Obama administration and Hillary Clinton. Trump is going to get to the bottom ot it and that’s why he requested help from the Ukranians in getting there.
That’s also why the Democrats are raising so much hell about the Ukranian issue because they know they are getting ready to be exposed as the traitors they really are.
From the article: “Will Biden’s plan to allow some industrial civilization to survive count against him the primaries? Or are radicals like Claire Carlson part of a noisy but unimportant minority?”
I don’t think Biden is going to survive politically because of Ukraine.
Biden was put in charge of handling Ukraine by Obama in 2014, and we have all been hearing about the potential corruption Biden’s son might have been involved in, and from the sound of it there is something there.
But even more importantly, imo, is that Biden was handling Ukraine during the time the Obama administration was using Russian and Ukranian lies and distortions in an effort to undermine Trump’s 2016 campaign and subsequent presidency.
So what did Joe Biden know about the efforts to undermine the Trump campaign and was Biden directing this disinformation campaign against Trump using Ukranian and Russian assets?
All this information is going to come out soon and I don’t think any of it is going to be favorable to Joe Biden, or anyone else in the Obama administration including the top guy himself.
One way Trump can drain the swamp and all these leakers is to find all the Obama appointees to the various federal agencies and then reassign them to some harmless position. He can’t fire them without some hard evidence, but he can put them where they can not do harm.
You know that’s who is doing all this leaking. And more than likely they were put there for just that purpose. Just like the Obama administration relaxed the rules on classified information and allowed 17 intelligence agencies access to information they had not had before, thus increasing the number of Obama people enabled to see and leak classified information harmful to Trump.
This whole fiasco is a setup by the Obama administration in cahoots with Hillary Clinton and her Clinton mafia associates.
They did a pretty good job of it but not good enough. They were so sure they were going to win that they failed to cover their tracks sufficiently and it’s going to come back to bite them in the near future.
I see where Samantha Powers is talking about running for the U.S. Senate. First Powers is going to have to explain how and why she “unmasked” hundreds of American citizens while she was Obama’s Ambassdor to the United Nations. Why would a U.S ambassador be unmasking the objects of intelligence investigations? Powers will need to explain these actions, although I understand she claims she didn’t do this. If she did not, then someone did so in her name. She needs to explain this.
Biden is toast. Warren has been caught in another blatant lie. It looks like Hillary might be drafted at the Democrat Convention as the only viable candidate if things keep going like this! 🙂
“…address the problem…”
What problem?
“…more people are starting to understand the need for impactful legislation with regards to climate change.”
Oh, that problem!
The problem of people who supposedly have an education in science that think that legislation can have an impact on the climate system of a planet.
That is a very serious problem.
Why should anyone care about Biden? He’s just a washed-up American politician.