Guest post by Dr Paul Rossiter.
Like many other ethical and well-meaning scientists, I am becoming increasingly frustrated with the climate “science” debate. By resorting to rigorous measurement and analysis of real data, we have a reasonable (but perhaps naïve) expectation that the facts will determine the outcome of the AGW argument. And yet, despite the huge amount of information available, much of it through sites such as WUWT, it appears that the popular debate is clearly being won by the alarmists. Seemingly reputable organisations like IPCC, WHO, WWF, NASA, NOAA, CSIRO, EPA keep issuing reports heralding pending climate doom that appear to be at odds with any unbiased examination of the facts. And when they do, they are immediately picked up by an opportunistic mainstream press and amplified through social media, leading to widespread fear amongst the population, clearly evident in the recent “strikes for the climate”. Ill-informed adolescents become the new Messiahs, preaching the climate doom gospel and given standing ovations in the fact-free climate gab-fests. School children are now the upset victims of corporate (i.e. fossil fuel) greed and government stupidity.
Governments are naturally sensitive to popular sentiment and, with the goal of remaining in power, they ride the wave through policy and spending settings. Behind all of this there are the opportunists, both private and corporate, fanning the flames for financial gain. Anyone who has the gall to express an opposing view is pilloried and even suffered potential personal and financial ruin through public humiliation and termination of employment. Free speech is no longer tolerated.
That the ethical scientific community appears to be losing the debate indicates that there are much more potent forces at play, both ideological and financial. It appears that the whole climate debate is little more than a convenient vehicle to push a deeper agenda. Scientific fact, of which there is much debate in WUWT, is little more than a bye-line.
While browsing through the introduction in a new book: The Madness of Crowds by Douglas Murray, a lot of the pieces started to fall into focus. Although this text is not directly concerned with climate issue (its main focus is gender and race), it became clear to me that the same powerful underlying social drivers were at work. The introduction includes the following:
We are going through a great crowd derangement. In public and in private, both online and off, people are behaving in ways that are increasingly irrational, feverish, herd-like and simply unpleasant. The daily news cycle is filled with the consequences. We see the symptom everywhere, we do not see the causes.
This is the simple fact that we have been living through a period of more than a quarter of a century in which all our grand narratives have collapsed.
The explanations for our existence that used to be provided by religion went first, falling away from the nineteenth century onwards. The over the last century the secular hopes held out by all political ideologies began to follow in religion’s wake. In the latter part of the twentieth century we entered the postmodern era. An era which defined itself, and was defined by, its suspicion to all grand narratives. However, as all schoolchildren learn, nature abhors a vacuum, and into the postmodern vacuum new ideas began to creep, with the intention of providing explanations and meanings of their own.
Whatever else they lacked, the grand narratives of the past gave life meaning. The question of what exactly we are meant to do now – other than get rich where we can and have whatever fun is on offer – was going to have to be answered by something.
The answer that has presented itself in recent years is to engage in new battles, ever fiercer campaigns and ever more niche demands. To find meaning by waging a constant war against anybody who seems to be on the wrong side of a question which may itself have just been reframed and the answer to which has just been altered.
The interpretation of the world through the lens of “social justice”, ‘identity groups and ‘intersectionalism’ is probably the most audacious and comprehensive effort since the end of the Cold War at creating a new ideology.
The speed at which they have been mainstreamed is staggering.
To me that begins to provide an understanding of the impotence of the “scientific” debate. We are not just battling scientific fraud, misrepresenting and cherry-picking data, we are up against a huge social dynamic, almost a new meaning for life no less!
Later in the book he states:
For most people some awareness of this new system has become clear not so much by trial and error as by very public error. Because one thing that everybody has begun to at least sense in recent years is that a set of tripwires has been laid across the culture. Sometimes a person’s foot has unwittingly nicked the tripwire and they have been immediately blown up. On other occasions people have watched some brave madman walking straight into no man’s land, fully aware of what they are doing. After each resulting detonation there is some disputation and then the world moves on, accepting that another victim has been notched up to the odd, apparently improvisatory value system of our time.
What everyone does know are the things that people will be called if their foot even nicks against these freshly laid tripwires. ‘Bigot’, homophobe’, ‘sexist’, ‘misogynist’, racist, and ‘transphobe’ are just for starters.
In our context, “climate denier” clearly needs to be added to the list.
He goes on:
The rights fights of our time have centered around these toxic and explosive issues. But in the process these rights issues have moved from being a product of a system to being the foundations of a new one. To demonstrate affiliation with the new system people must prove their credentials and their commitment.
This is how to demonstrate virtue in this new world.
Each of these issues is infinitely more complex and unstable than our societies are currently willing to admit. Which is why, put together as the foundation blocks of a new morality and metaphysics, they form the basis for a general madness. Indeed, a more unstable basis for social harmony could hardly be imagined.
If for no other reason than that each of these issues is a deeply unstable component in itself. We present each as agreed upon and settled. Yet while the endless contradictions, fabrication s and fantasies within each are visible to all, identifying them is not just discouraged but literally policed. And so we are asked to agree things which we cannot believe. It is the central cause of ugliness both online and real-life discussion.
That sounds very familiar in the climate debate! He then presents the case that there is an underlying ideology providing the energy and philosophy driving the whole movement: its Marxist foundations:
In 1911 a famous poster appeared, entitled ‘Industrial Workers of the World’, depicting what it claimed to be the ‘Pyramid of the Capitalist System’. At the bottom of the pyramid were the brave men, women and children of the working class. With their proud, sturdy yet struggling shoulders they were holding up the entire edifice. A floor above them, wining and dining in black tie and evening dresses were the well -off capital classes. Above them were the military, clergy, monarch and finally at the top was a great bag of money with dollar signs on the outside. ‘Capitalism’ was the label for this highest tier of State.
The embodiment of this philosophy in the current context is similarly rooted in ‘social justice’. Here the pyramid has been transformed into a new one with the virtuous victim at the bottom, bearing all the pain and anguish of the forecast climate change, the smug climate deniers at the next level and the bag of fossil fuel money at the top.
Murray goes on:
The purpose of large sections of academia had ceased to be exploration, discovery or dissemination of truth. The purpose had instead become the creation, nurture and propogandization of a particular, and peculiar, brand of politics. The purpose was not academia, but activism.
This was make-believe masquerading as science .
This movement has been incredibly successful since it is nurtured and propagated right through the education system by teachers and academics with a strong leaning to the political left. The power of this dynamic is the subject of another text: The Coddling of the American Mind by Greg Lukianoff and Jonathan Haidt. We are not just battling scientific fraud, but a whole system of leftist ideology deeply embedded throughout the entire education system.
Further:
One of the traits of the Marxist thinkers has always been that they do not stumble or self-question in the face of contradiction, as anybody aiming at the truth might. Marxists have always rushed to contradiction.
By contrast, anybody who got in the way of this direction of travel found themselves mown down with astonishing vigour. The weapons at hand (accusations of racism etc. (include climate denier)) were all too easy to wield and there was no price to pay for wielding them unfairly, unjustifiably or frivolously.
In the climate debate, this has been manifest in many ways: banning non-alarmist comment from print (e.g. The Guardian), TV (e.g. the BBC), live (banning guest presenters) and on-line platforms (e.g. the “The Conversation” site). It has also been manifest in stacking IPCC panels to exclude dissenting opinions and even “de-platforming” countries form the UN Climate summit (e.g. USA and Australia). Possibly the most offensive actions are discontinuing or sacking academics for expressing opinions that don’t toe the party line (e.g. Peter Ridd, Murry Salby, Bob Carter, Bjorn Lomborg, and others).
He then comments on the series of spoof articles submitted to social science journals and accepted after peer review. The same comments apply to much of the pseudo-science disseminated by the alarmists:
The spoofs made a number of deadly serious points. Not that just these areas of academic study had become playgrounds for frauds, but there was absolutely nothing that could not be said, studied or claimed so long as it fitted into the pre-existing theories and presumptions of the relevant fields and utilised its disastrous language.
He then looks at how the new ideology has propagated so quickly:
If the foundations of the new metaphysics are precarious and the presumptions that we are being asked to follow seem subtly wrong, then it is the addition into the mix of the communications revolution that is causing the conditions for the crowd madness. If we are already running in the wrong direction then tech helps us to run there exponentially faster.
Social media turns out to be a superlative way to embed new dogmas and crush contrary opinion just when you need to listen to them most.
Furthermore, it has now emerged that many such platforms have inbuilt bias to promote the agenda. This is manifest in the results of searches on platforms like Google which often exhibit bias to a particular point of view. Many are not just impartial sources of information but a cog in the whole mechanism of social change. Murray attributes this to the left-leaning academics and technologists that have built many of these platforms.
He finishes on a slightly depressing note:
People looking for this movement to wind down because of its inherent contradictions will be waiting a long time. Firstly because they are ignoring the Marxist sub-structure of much of this movement, and the inherent willingness to rush towards contradiction rather than notice all these nightmarish crashes suggests that it is really not interested in solving any of the problems that it claims to be interested in. It is expressed not in the manner of a critic hoping to improve, but as an enemy eager to destroy.
The new metaphysics includes a call to find meaning in this game: to struggle, and fight and campaign and ‘ally’ ourselves with people in order to reach that promised land. In an era without purpose, and in a universe without clear meaning, this call to politicize everything and then fight for it has an undoubted attraction. It fills life with meaning, of a kind. Politics may be an important aspect of our lives, but as a source of personal meaning it is disastrous. Not just because the ambitions it strives after nearly always go unachieved, but because finding purpose in politics laces politics with a passion – including rage – that perverts the whole enterprise. If two people are in disagreement about something important, they may disagree amicably as they like if it is just a matter of getting to the truth or the most amenable option. But if one party finds their whole purpose in life to reside in some aspect of that disagreement, then the chances of amicability fade fast and the likelihood of reaching any truth recedes.
There are very powerful agencies driving this agenda, both at the national level: left vs right political parties vying for control, as well as bodies such as the UN and EU striving for global influence. Just how the powerful Green/Left protagonists managed to infiltrate key political positions in Europe and the U.S. and to establish (or gain control of) institutions that gave them unquestioned authority over the subject is described in considerable detail in Rupert Darwall’s two books The Age of Global Warming: A history and Green Tyranny: Exposing the totalitarian Roots of the Climate Industrial Complex.
And let’s not forget to “follow the money”, whether this be noble cause corruption, often driven by wealthy donors lurking in the background, or financial opportunism based upon corporate profit or just pure greed. The personal fortunes amassed by people such as Al Gore must be a powerful driver, as must the need by Directors to sustain government –funded scientific organizations.
History has taught that such great socialist vs conservative struggles have often led to wars. Given that the “climate crisis” is little more than a Trojan horse for such global social upheaval, it is clear that the science debate will, by itself, be totally impotent in determining the outcome. Simply debating the merit of some fine scientific point, while a necessary part of the scientific method, will not lead to resolution of the AGW argument (which is where I came in) or indeed the grander scheme of things. Science itself will just be collateral damage but those from the Green/Left will probably not be too concerned.
My background:
PhD in Physics from Monash University.
Over 60 scientific publications in refereed journals, 4 book chapters in scientific tomes and a book for Cambridge Press.
Was Head of the Department of Materials Engineering at Monash, then Deputy Vice-Chancellor in charge of Research and Development at Curtin University of Technology. I have run my own consulting company and also a small manufacturing business.
Was Fellow of The Australian Institute of Physics and Fellow of the Institution of Engineers, Australia.
Now retired.
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Irrational fear mongering for political gain takes precedence over rational assessment of data and trends by honest scientists.
Welcome to the post-modern fantasy!
The UN has never believed in significant climate change and therefore never believed in anthropogenic global warming.
Here is how I know.
https://thedemiseofchristchurch.wordpress.com/2016/05/06/un-headquarters-and-usd1-2-billion-upgrade-and-rising/
Cheers
Roger
As far as I can see the refurbishment started in 2008 and brought the UN building up to (then) latest green standards…
I really don’t see your point??
hmmm.. could it be that it’s right on the river and therefore vulnerable to SLR due to the melting ice that you are always reminding us of. Would you spend any money on a building that will be inundated in a few short years?
Spending other people’s money is such a good way to prove your commitment.
“As far as I can see…”
Griff – Your ‘green’ myopia is well documented in your comments.
Roger Pielke Jr, whom I can recall admiring, has written an article in Forbes that riffs on a PwC recent report lamenting all talk and no action on CO2 mitigation.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerpielke/2019/09/19/the-yawning-gap-between-climate-rhetoric-and-climate-action/#d2ba532ec464
“Climate change is among the most successful social movements in recent history. Sure, there remain skeptics and deniers, but if political action on any issue required 100% agreement, nothing would ever get done.” says RPjr.
But in order to be comfortable with crippling the world’s economy – and he’s right, there does seem to be considerable reluctance to do that, east of Europe – we’d have to be comfortable with the notion that CO2 is in control of climate change, and we are in control of CO2.
For the first, we’d have to show that when CO2 changes direction, global temperature changes after that in the appropriate direction and when CO2 continues to rise of fall, the temperature rising or falling persists. That doesn’t happen, we know, since from our emergence from the LIA in 1840 CO2 has risen gently with some little increase in rate, and the world warmed from 1840 to 1880, cooled from 1880-1910, warmed from 1915-1942, cooled from 1942-1970 (enough to provoke alarms about the Coming Ice Age – see Time and Newsweek and ScienceNews in the early 70s) and warmed until 1998, with a fragile statistical pause since then.
For second, we might note our 4% contribution to the annual increase in CO2, and the fact that when human production of CO2 diminished by 30% in 1929-1931, CO2 continued its languid rise. And in WWII and postwar reconstruction with massive human output, CO2 did not change its slope, and the world did not warm.
“No one knows how to do this.”
That’s correct. And rational folks don’t know why they should do it. What they do know how to do, and are able to do, as the Dutch do, is deal with rising sea levels no matter what CO2 does. That will perhaps cost as much as CO2 mitigation, but it at least will have some benefit. With what’s left over we can clean up the plastics in the rivers and oceans.
Speaking of climate devotion…
A major scientific paper, which claimed to have found rapid warming in the oceans as a result of manmade global warming, has been withdrawn after “amateur climate scientist” Nic Lewis found major errors in its statistical methodology.
The paper https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-019-1585-5, from a team led by Laure Resplandy of Princeton University, had received widespread uncritical publicity in the mainstream media when it was published because of its apparently alarming implications for the planet. Its uncritical reception might have been the result of the prestige of the multiple authors and their institutions. However, within days of its publication in October 2018, Nic Lewis found several serious flaws. Yesterday, after nearly a year’s delay, the paper was officially withdrawn by Nature, and grudgingly accepted by the authors, without acknowledging any change in their conclusions.
“Oh ye of little faith”
I generally agree with your analysis, though I think there are signs that a large section of the public are not really buying the message despite what they might be telling polls. Tony Abbott had a landslide victory after dismissing the climate scare. Trump has been openly sceptical but not likely to make a big issue of it before the next election. In Australia, Morrison won the “unwinnable” election after theatrically bringing a lump of coal into parliament. Britain has kicked the can down the road to 2050. That’s just the Anglosphere. China, India, and Africa are going gangbusters with new coal plant.
Whether this is currently on the increase or decrease I can’t tell, but I’m sure the current extreme push, or putsch, will backfire.
For a more detailed summary of how I see the state of things see Climate Confusion and Fear: http://brindabella.id.au?c=DGHE. Two key points that one doesn’t need to be a scientist to understand:
1. Between IPCC’s AR4 and AR5 their definition of the GHE has gone from vague to meaningless.
2. For the GHE to raise temperatures by 33C, as claimed, the atmosphere needs to “trap” heat for an average of 19 days. This is 150 to 200 times more than other evidence suggests for heat transfer from surface to space.
Yes, I agree that “……there are signs that a large section of the public are not really buying the message ….”. Polls all over our western world show that an increasing number of people (at this moment probably half of us) think that yes, the world is the hottest it has been in a thousand years – but no, though increasing atmospheric CO2 of course must warm the world, nature of course must cause a certain percentage of the warming. I say of course – simply based on the scientific fact that 8,000 years ago, at the climatic maximum, global temperatures were at least 2 degree C. higher than today – and sea levels about 2 metres higher than at present. Together with the proven fact that over the intervening 8,000 years global temperatures have been fairly regularly fluctuating, with colder and warmer periods – but, over all, cooling with decreasing sea levels. And all this irrespective of atmospheric CO2 content. Richard Feynman once said that one ugly fact can destroy a host of beautiful theories. People in the western world (the rest of the world have their own ideas – they are not silly) are slowly realising this. The incredible, idiotic climate change mass movement we are witnessing views this as a black-or-white issue – which it simply is not.
Britain has, in fact, committed to be carbon neutral by 2030. How is that “kicking the can down the road”?
They’ve made zero progress.
Words alone are not a demonstration of faith or/ Saying it is so, doesn’t make it so.
It takes a lot of misplaced faith to believe that the goals and timetable of commitments will be met. As soon as there is a serious backlash against any of it, the can will be kicked.
An underlying message in this presentation is that such a condition inevitably will evolve into greater conflict rather than reasoned resolution. That implies the unthinkable, and I hope it is such, that AR 4, 5 or 6 are essentially irrelevant and that AR 15 is all too likely.
Looking at reality through any “lens” means you are viewing a distorted image.
But without a lens you get no image at all.
The invention of glass, and then the lens, are the two most significant inventions/technologies man has ever created for the advancement of humanity. Shame it’s wasted today!
I disagree. Indoor plumbing and food preservation are the two greatest inventions of Mankind.
All hail Thomas Crapper and Nicolas Appert.
Cheap cotton underwear.
Wash and dry overnight.
You can’t do that with wool.
The health benefits are immense.
If you’re Scottish or Irish, that’s not a problem 🙂
My choice for being the greatest invention of Mankind would be the stove/heater for the controlled burning of “dead biomass” (and fossil fuels).
Without a precise means of controlling “fire”, the progress of human civilization would probably still be stalled in the Neolithic age.
I am more in the evolutionary biology camp on this one; development of language. Not precisely a technological invention, however, without it would abstract thinking ever developed in the species?
Many animal species have their own unique “development of language” for communications between same species ……… and “abstract thinking” is not just a “human thingy” given the fact that members of several different animal species are noted for their mental ability to perform said.
I nominate the flaked flint point and friction-ignited fire.
Oh my, via your above post, …… it just dawned on me, ….. and I t’was wondering if maybe an early human flint napper, per chance, ever used a piece of meteorites (FeNi) as a hammerstone?
Pinhole cameras do not require a lens to form an image. The eye of the Nautilus is a good example.
Dylan
Viewed through the lens of history, you are correct. Without it, would Canaletto have produced his greatest works?
All thanks to the lensless Gemma Frisius.
Yes. This post is about an evolving ideology, which is apparent. All ideologies, no matter the type, are identical to religious faith. Anything that challenges the ideology is an invading pest that must be killed off, not listened to.
However, most human beings aren’t ideologues. Even most religious people aren’t that fervent about their religious faith. A large majority of Americans, for instance, claims to be religious, with a majority of them identifying as Christian .. yet relatively few Americans routinely attend religious services, which used to be the measure of one’s religiosity.
Same with belief in climate hysteria (I no longer use the term “alarmism” as it has metastacized clearly into the category of hysteria today). Many poll respondents will say they are “concerned” about climate change, and they say the want’ government to “do something about it”. But as soon as the government actually does something that imposes costs on the general population (rather than just on rich “polluters”), such as large carbon taxes, or restrictions on their personal mobility, the masses react extremely negatively, and the governments are often forced to back off.
Yup, it’s a new religion. Unlike traditional religion you won’t have the freedom of choice to not comply with its precepts. Full compliance is demanded.
KT66
It is unfortunate that “religion” was put on the poster instead of “Clerics”. Clericalism is a far cry from Religion.
“In 1911 a famous poster appeared, entitled ‘Industrial Workers of the World’, depicting what it claimed to be the ‘Pyramid of the Capitalist System’. ”
Consider: as a model, this is far closer to reality than the GCM’s used for IPCC references.
The question is not that the economic system was rigged to keep the rich from becoming poor, it is”What to do about it.”
The solutions offered by Maxists and Leninists and worse, Engelsists have been tried and found wanting. The concept of “perpetual revolution” is sick. People would like the “aluta” not to “continua”.
In the early years of the 20th Century there were far more options on the table, many of which have not been tried. A core principle (not seriously taken up anywhere) is that “capital” (savings) has rghts and labour has rights.
Capital and labour work together in all enterprises, without exception. Under old-style capitalism labour does not have a right to a share of the profits generated by the joint venture. The communists, in calling for the destruction of the “capitalist class” (but not the destruction of capital) allege that capital is no more than stored labour and that it belongs to the labourers. There will be no need for savings because everything one might save for will be provided by the collective. Kind of like The Borg in more ways than two.
Until capital and labour are brought into economic balance, there will be real-world perpetual chaos, not perpetual struggle between concepts. Capital must recognize the rights of labour and vise versa. Since 1911 labour has pressed for its rights without admitting the role of savings the labourers accumulate. Labourers have a right to invest and retire. Marx did not agree with this concept, relegating the role of the labourer to that of being a cog in a giant national machine government by “The Party.
It does society no good to have most of its members disempowered economically while being kept in a self-operated prison located somewhere in the spiritual wilderness. Observe how unhappy people become in such a system. Similarly a system which does not recognize the valid rights of labour to a share of the pie they generate looks a great deal like the USA: homelessness for millions, addictions of multiple kinds, widespread bewilderment at the riches that surround them and their own material deprivation.
Finland (a country no one talks about) has taken a very different approach, but still suffers from widespread addiction to alcohol. The East Block is hopelessly sunk in alcoholism (literally). These are signs, indicators.
The “climate” fad gives people hope for meaning. They invest in it, they want something glorious to be true about it. Of course they will eventually be disappointed when it fizzles away like the morning dew. Clearly the biggest threat to humanity is ignorant, avaricious, willfully blind humans bent on going to war to solve problems. The solution to that is political and comes before all else can be achieved.
Brilliant, insightful article summarising why science is being ignored in the climate debate and why it’s irrelevant to it’s resolution.
It’s all about Wold government. Climate ‘governance’ forms a proto-infrastructure for global, centralised control over every aspect of our lives.
I would question the assertion that that the debate is being won by the alarmists. Given that CO2 levels
are not only rising but in fact increased by a record amount in 2018 it would seem that deniers have their
foot firmly on the pedal and emissions are going to keep going up for the foreseeable future.
I will believe that the debate is being won by the alarmists when governments start closing working coal
fired power stations. Until then it is just sound and fury signifying nothing.
In other words, victory is defined as the utter destruction of the economy and billions of people starving to death.
All to support the lie that CO2 is the major controller of climate.
Mark,
How would you answer the question as to whether or not alarmists are winning other than by
looking at the actions of various political parties and governments? Other than planting a few trees is any government doing anything right now to address the supposed crisis?
Izaak Walton
It’s more than just a binary winning or losing question. The problem is the insidious effect the climate alarm cause is having on taxes for example. Carbon taxes specifically, but less obviously energy taxes to subsidise alternative energy otherwise known as increased energy bills.
Then the bizarre claim that we all must become vegetarian to save the planet, with planned taxes on meat etc. That would change the face of agriculture and society in general.
The imposition of electric vehicles by government mandate (certainly in the UK) by 2040 and the UK government commitment to spend £1tn of taxpayers money on something yet to be observed, on things yet to be identified, to solve a problem with no beginning and no end.
Isaak – in my opinion the situation is far worse than Paul argues. Objective science and reason is not losing the debate – it has lost.
Read this to realise how far policy actions have gone and will continue to go:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-climate-change-germany-companies-inst/germany-agrees-climate-package-in-bid-to-meet-co2-targets-idUSKBN1W51NE
Stepping back from these type of programmes and commitments is not going to happen. Even if tomorrow some incontrovertible new piece of evidence or logic comes to light which absolutely demonstrates that targeting global CO2 emissions is not necessary or sensible, there will be no turning back in our lifetimes.
I didn’t address your claim that you were winning, I addressed the consequences of your winning.
Regardless, while the various political organizations are all talking a good fight, when it comes to actions, … not so much.
This happened. Ontario has closed three working coal plants in the past decade; Nanticoke, Lambton and Lakeview. Nanticoke at eight units of 480 MW each was arguably the largest operating coal plant in North America.
This actually happened. Ontario has closed three fully functional coal fired stations in the past decade: Nanticoke, Lambton and Lakeview. With eight units, 480 MW each, Nanticoke was arguably the largest coal-fired station in North America.
The UK will have closed all but 4 of its coal power stations by April 2020 and the rest must shut by 2025 at latest.
UK politicians (among others) are Extremely misguided. It looks like “Idiocracy” to me. The inmates have taken over the asylum. They are taking drastic, harmful actions based on nothing but the delusions in their heads, telling them CO2 must be reduced.
And as a result, 10’s of thousands extra people die every winter because they can no longer afford heat.
Which is why they are building new CCGT plants.
Not exactly a ringing endorsement for non-fossil fueled, renewable energy.
Did you not read that contradictions are inherent in the current crop of ideologies?
Why state that it is the ‘deniers’ (assuming this means we people who want proof/un-tampered data, etc) with their foot on the pedal?
All of the do-gooders protesting for change are using the very products they say are destroying the world and have every rationalisation possible for why someone else is to blame.
So John,
Take the statement that ” the powerful Green/Left protagonists managed to infiltrate key political positions in Europe and the U.S. and to establish (or gain control of) institutions that gave them unquestioned authority over the subject” where is the evidence for that? Can you point to any
actual policies that governments anywhere in the Europe and the US that have gone against the
standard neo-liberal consensus? What actual green policies that make a difference have actually been implemented?
2014 _ 5 _ 401.88 …. +2.12 __________ 9 … 395.35
2015 _ 5 _ 403.94 …. +2.06 __________ 9 … 397.63
2016 _ 5 _ 407.70 …. +3.76 El Niño __ 9 … 401.03
2017 _ 5 _ 409.65 …. +1.95 __________ 9 … 403.38
2018 _ 5 _ 411.24 …. +1.59 __________9 … 405.51
2019 _ 5 _ 414.66 …. +3.42 __________9 … 408.50
You need a better authority for your “facts”.
HA, the record increase of +1.59 ppm CO2 in 2018 was greater than the record increase of +1.17 ppm CO2 in 2011.
But that 2018 record increase couldn’t hold a candle to the 2016 increase of +3.76 ppm or the 2019 increase of +3.42 ppm,
Izaak
Closing coal fired power stations has already happened in Australia
In the state of South Australia the former Labour government closed the state’s only coal fired power station while in Victoria the Labour government effectively brought forward closure of a major brown coal fired power station (Hazelwood ) by bringing in a large increase in the royalty payments for accessing the state- owned brown coa.l
The company owning Hazelwood closed it down as it could not afford the high maintenance bill given the increased costs of brown coal fuel it now faced
There is no climate crisis Izaak Walton ,
Just because the temperature has risen a little over 1 degree Celsius since the little Ice age ended and CO2 levels have increased with the warming that proves nothing.
Just because some ,but not that many activist scientists have pushed the story that does not prove anything
It started out as” 2500 scientists believe “as that was how many were involved with the first IPCC report but as a lot of them said” hey we never said that ” it was changed to “97% of scientists believe ” which makes no sense as the theory is but a theory never been proven .
100% could believe but until it is proven beyond doubt it is only a theory so that means it is very like a religion .
There is no evidence ,none ,not any, zilch that the rise in temperature is mainly caused by fossil fuel combustion .
The world has warmed many times before in history and the earth has been warmer than present at least 3 times since the last ice age receded 12000 years ago .
No news reports ever mention these facts .Its all doom and gloom and Saint Gretta.
Anything that the western world does will be quickly nullified by China and India .
An exercise in futility on both sides of the debate . On the skeptical side a complete waste of effort as it does not need to be done and on your alarmist side it can make absolutely no difference that can be detected in any temperature records around the world .
It will destroy a lot of peoples hopes of living a comfortable life as electricity will become so expensive that only the wealthy will be able to heat and cool their homes
We have so many useful idiots preaching dire warnings that the end is nigh as they believe what they are told without question .
Graham ,
Proud to be a farmer
> There is no evidence ,none ,not any, zilch that the rise in temperature is mainly caused by fossil fuel combustion
I’m afraid that doesn’t matter if the majority of people belief that there is plenty of evidence. Their votes will reflect this belief.
Izaak why do you dislike CO2?
Agreed : the alarmists can huff and puff, rant and rave, march in their thousands – the reality is that it is physically impossible to diminish present global fossil fuel use in any significant way.
well sth aus and vic shut 2 that were well able to be maintained and kept running
for many mil less than the crap greenpower n batteries that they (didnt) replace the output with
Izaak
It is not “deniers” who have their “foot on the pedal” of CO2 emission.
It is just ordinary people who don’t want to die.
Current human populations are dependent on fossil energy. Taking away fossil energy is a form of genocide.
Any gov’t. starts “taking away” fossil fuels in the form of heat, cooling, transportation, or meat, they’re very quickly going to have a REVOLUTION on their hands. The “Gilets-Jeaunes” were a genteel and restrained warm-up act to what they can expect; NO WONDER they want our guns!
Out here in the real world, the average person is not engaged with this issue at ALL. This past week a majority polled were completely unaware of the so-called “Green New Deal.” My theory is the media is now nothing but a noise machine, so far from veracity the people have completely tuned it out in favor of Netflix or Hulu or PornHub or Fortnite. I mean, if it’s ALL lies and repetitive slander of mostly boring politicians, why spend your time on it?
AGW is a very fashionable “niche” issue for max virtue signaling with zero sacrifice for the One Percenters; has-ben actors’ tweets, social climbers’ status symbols and aged-out hippies’ nostaliga trips standing in the town square with homemade signs. It’s a competitive SPECTACLE for those with time and money on their hands. For people on the way to honest work, it’s a JOKE and is treated likewise!
Right you are, Goldrider, …… and if I might add, …… I find it quite astonishing, verging on the unbelievable, that those per se One Percenters you speak of, ….. have never, ever considered how they are going to “support” themselves after they destroy capitalism and find themselves on an “even” playing field of trying to provide for themselves. Having money won’t matter because there will be nothing for sale.
Well stated. Everyone should re-read “Atlas Shrugged”. The current crop of demo-socialists plan destruction of the US economy to “stop climate change”. But don’t worry “it’s for the good of the people”.
Izaak Walton – September 26, 2019 at 7:05 pm
You need a better authority for your “facts”.
HA, the record increase of +1.59 ppm CO2 in 2018 was greater than the record increase of +1.17 ppm CO2 in 2011.
But that 2018 record increase couldn’t hold a candle to the 2016 increase of +3.76 ppm or the 2019 increase of +3.42 ppm, …… to wit:
2014 _ 5 _ 401.88 …. +2.12 __________ 9 … 395.35
2015 _ 5 _ 403.94 …. +2.06 __________ 9 … 397.63
2016 _ 5 _ 407.70 …. +3.76 El Niño __ 9 … 401.03
2017 _ 5 _ 409.65 …. +1.95 __________ 9 … 403.38
2018 _ 5 _ 411.24 …. +1.59 __________9 … 405.51
2019 _ 5 _ 414.66 …. +3.42 __________9 … 408.50
NOAA’s Mauna Loa Monthly Mean CO2 data base
@ur momisugly ftp://aftp.cmdl.noaa.gov/products/trends/co2/co2_mm_mlo.txt
I have to agree with you 100% Paul.
The world is on a crazy ride and the whole thing is being pushed by lies .
We have had a month of propaganda running up to the climate boondoggle in New York where Saint Gretta was installed .
Every thing in our news about the climate emergency can be debunked and the perpetrators of this scam are now enlisting children to push their agenda with climate strike protests and we now have politicians pushing to lower the voting age to 16 , and that would allow children of the same age as Gretta to stand for parliament and the lauding that she was given in NY some electorates would elect her .
If the people that really think that we are heading for a climate catastrophe were serious they would be advocating for nuclear power as most countries cannot afford to reduce their energy supply to their populations .
As for Gretta calling for a reduction in growth that is extremely foolish as the UN forecasts that the worlds population is still growing and will top 9 billion by 2050 .
If the worlds population was falling the world could safely reduce growth but with a 20 % increase that means 20% more of food, shelter, health care and education for a start .
How dare you Gretta deny these unborn people the basic necessities of life .
For the world to go into a frenzy over an unproven theory that is only backed up with climate models that are all running hot questions have to be asked.
The people asking the questions are vilified and called deniers .
Graham
We have a cycle of religious revivials, the age fantasy is one.
Crowd behavior is best understood as a form of mass hysteria:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_psychogenic_illness
Note the frequent reference to the susceptibility of children and females.
Alarmists frequently demand evidence of conspiracy. However, besides the monetary incentive, the behavior of alarmists is perhaps a manifestation of mass hysteria.
“Alarmists frequently demand evidence of conspiracy.”
As someone famously said here about 8 years ago, “A conspiracy is unnecessary where a carrot will suffice.”
“The popular debate is clearly being won by the alarmists.” I would substitute “socialists” for “alarmists”. Then, historically, we see the Soviet Union, Mussolini’s Italy, finally the Third Reich. All of them finally ran out of other people’s money and collapsed. It is safer to watch it from the outside than from the inside; some people are still fascinated with it – like some hurricane watchers.
“Seemingly reputable organisations like IPCC, WHO, WWF, NASA, NOAA, CSIRO, EPA keep issuing reports heralding pending climate doom that appear to be at odds with any unbiased examination of the facts.”
Failed to mention the BBC.
Always a sound plan…
“Failed to mention the BBC.”
Actually it was mentioned: “… this has been manifest in many ways: banning non-alarmist comment from print (e.g. The Guardian), TV (e.g. the BBC) ….”
Say What!?
Not to be confused with:
published more than a hundred years ago.
The lessons are just as true now as they were then and just as ignored.
I agree that the frauds now winning. That is only because the Media and Academia has taken off their mask. Up until about 2 or 3 years ago, they pretended to be unbiased. Of course they weren’t unbiased, but they pretended and covered themselves. But over the past couple of years (since Trump?), the Media and Academia have morphed into outright unabashed and proud propagandists. I think they are scared of Trump. They know that conservative politicians are cowards who will never expose them. But Trump is fearless, and a bit crazy. So I think they are genuinely scared their lies will be exposed to the masses (and not just AGW, but all of the other lies they have been shoving down our throats). Can you imagine the RAGE that will be directed at the Media and Academia if all those people they brainwashed realized that it was all a deliberate, planned, lie. So the Media and Academia’s only choice is to now go full blast and throw everything in to make sure Trump is not re-elected. This is now all about making sure Trump is not re-elected, because if he is, the AGW hoax will be exposed in his next term, and they are very scared of the consequences of that.
“Up until about 2 or 3 years ago, they pretended to be unbiased. Of course they weren’t unbiased, but they pretended and covered themselves. But over the past couple of years (since Trump?), the Media and Academia have morphed into outright unabashed and proud propagandists. I think they are scared of Trump.”
Very good insight, and something I hadn’t thought of. I think that, for many reasons, some valid, Trump has so enraged his opponents and many independents, that the enraged have freaked-out, and been given carte blanche to say vociferously what they will, without pushback. All their extremist positions have gotten more credibility in the wake of this derangement syndrome, just as all leftist / Marxist interpretations of politics and history gained traction in the wake of the Vietnam war. The mainstream takes the view that “any stick will do to beat the devil,” and may feel that by hyping “climatism” they are indirectly making Trump’s resistance look foolish or worse.
“So the Media and Academia’s only choice is to now go full blast and throw everything in to make sure Trump is not re-elected. This is now all about making sure Trump is not re-elected, because if he is, the AGW hoax will be exposed in his next term, and they are very scared of the consequences of that.”
The radical Left, those with poltical power and the Leftwing Media are waging a political war against the Right. The Left has the enormous advantage of having the Leftwing News Media promoting the leftwing narrative, so all most people hear is the Left’s point of view. Even so, the Left is losing, although the news media keeps it close.
It’s time for Republicans to realize they, ALL of them, not just Trump, are under attack by the Left, and it is time to fight back and support Trump. Mitt Romney and Ben Sasse should shut up and go away. Worthless b@ur momisugly$t…… We can’t count on them, can we. We need to elect people we can count on. Trump has done more for conservatism than anyone in living memory, and these fools oppose him for personal reasons, and put the nation second, as a result. Go away, fools!
Two great religions fell in the 20th century, Christianity and Marxism-Leninism. Though holdouts of each remain here and there, they are both mostly finished in the West. These falls created a huge gap in our self-conception and search for moral answers. They have been exploited by neo-Marxian Environmentalists who have constructed a new religion for the West (and the world). It has rituals (that make no sense like recycling), saints (like Rachel Carson), dogma (climate change), priests (“scientists” like Michael Mann and his buddies), and all of this shoved down our children’s throats is government schools in as complete a marriage between church and state as has ever existed. The Inquisition would have loved to have as much control of youngsters’ minds as the Green Church does today. Into this world has come a *moral panic* similar to the great moral panics of the past, whether it was witches, or prohibition, or anti-drug hysteria, or the McMartin Preschool hysteria, or the hysteria surrounding Dungeons and Dragons, or even Harry Potter. Moral Panics exist when there is a strong religious undercurrent against what the religious authorities believe to be something standing in their way of creating a righteous society on Earth mirroring whatever heavenly society they intend to create. Today’s moral panic is about the almost entirely fictitious phenomenon of “white supremacy,” because it was primarily white people who voted for and elected a person standing in the way of the neo-Marxian environmental totalitarianism that this new religion wants to impose.
The white supremacy moral panic started with real racists (though not white supremacists, of which there are none), and has moved to everyone else who disagrees with the new church’s dogma. This website (which I’ve been reading for years) has never once said anything about race, so one would think it was immune from charges of white supremacy, yet that is not how the new religious totalitarians think. Anthony is white. Anthony provides the number one web site that argues that climate change is not an imminent threat. Therefore, Anthony, and all who help him and read him must be white supremacists. That’s the logic, and while it may not have come yet, it will come soon. WUWT will be put on some list of “hate groups” by the SPLC or ADL or other thought police organization. Your ISP will be petitioned to dump you. You will be banned from Facebook and Twitter and Youtube. Paypal will dump you. And you will have to scramble to find a new digital home. The reason you have not been attacked yet is that the modern Inquisition is opportunistic and is going after easier targets first. But make no mistake, they WILL come after you. Have a plan in place. Have a backup site in place. Previous moral panics have cost thousands or even millions of people their lives. The idea that this moral panic will leave a website like WUWT alone is ridiculous. Look at their masked black-shirted terrorists roaming our streets shutting down debates, lectures, universities, and governments. For people who brain their opponents with bike locks or punch them in the face on live television, shutting down a website is peanuts.
Have a plan.
I agree with this analysis. YouTube will crack down more and more on those who disagree with the main narrative. I hope Tony Heller has a backup plan. Same for other platforms. Maybe thinkspot.com will be a holdout, but nobody knows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1xAUfdK9FE
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It is a belief based system not one based on understanding. Blind, unquestioning adherance is always required.
Very well stated and defended positions Dr Rossiter. A well written clear essay on what is going wrong in today’s Western world.
Chinese and Russian leaders no doubt are laughing their butts off right now. They must smile and cheer at the antics of the Left driving Western capitalism and the well-spring of Individual Liberty ideas into the dirt with their “wokeness” and social-justice idiocy.
Dr. Paul and Joel, Dudes! I represent err… resent your descriptions of my tribe. Due to your extended list of our characteristics that are greeted as micro-aggressions to our tender sensibilities, as recompense (though never fully) you owe us your unquestioning support for our fondest dreemz.
Our proud misanthropic self-esteem propels such newfound virtues as a chronic seething hatred and personal inhumility that promise to propel our desires beyond all limits stemming from consideration for others. Meanwhile we’ll claim the right to a ‘safe space’ away from contradiction that would deflate our assurance (of course we’ll in no way reciprocate). And if we don’t soon get what we want, in our resulting despondency we’ll hold our breath and turn even bluer. YOU GET MY DRIFT?
> Chinese and Russian leaders no doubt are laughing their butts off right now.
I would worry if I were them. Better the devil you know than the devil you don’t.
Eric Hoffer, “The True Believer”, is another fundamental book on these issues. The gist of it is, you cannot convince the masses with facts and reason.
Not exatcly, maybe, but very similar to climate politics:
Charles Mackay, Memoirs of Extraordinary Popular Delusions, “Preface”:
https://archive.org/details/memoirsofextraor01mack/page/n13
It may be that Charles A. Ponzi thought he was actully making money for everyone, but, even if not, he had a lot in common with modern catastrophic climate predicters.
I’m not quite so despondent. Politicians sometimes deserve more credit than they get. They are past masters at saying lots to placate the mob whilst actually doing very little or nothing. There is more than little bit of this going on wrt the global warming lark.
Yet… We have been doing exactly the same thing to “science denying” proponents of intelligent design for forty years. When are we going to understand science can’t unlock the unobserved secrets of the past any more than it can model the unobserved future?
The little prophetess Greta Thunberg intones to Congress, “listen to scientists”. The priests and priestess’ – authorities with secret knowledge about our prophetic future. We wouldn’t be in this predicament if we had been honest from the beginning: Scientists don’t do any talking. Matter speaks to us itself through the scientific method. Hypothesis, Null Hypothesis, Experiment, Observations, Measurements, Repeatability for confirmation. Matter will and does reveal its transformative nature, in very incremental and progressive terms; if, and only if, we ask it ‘true or false’ questions in exactly the prescribed way.
The remembered past is history. History is the only basis of prognosticating the future. What is a weather forecast? Global forecast models are very sophisticated remembering machines. They aren’t doing meteorology – they are remembering meteorological patterns and saying, “I think we have seen this before” You can’t build a forecast model (a good one anyway) without understanding meteorology, but your model is not doung meteorology. You must use the scientific method in the present. It doesn’t work in the future or the past.
The patterns of Intelligent Design are obvious in all living & inanimate matter. The notion that science has “proven” otherwise is senseless. Science can observe and measure all sorts of things. But without experiments and falsifiable hypotheses, you don’t have a method whereby matter speaks truth about itself. The scientist has to do all the talking, and he is just speculating.
Climate modeling is trying to model the future based on an imagined future. They will never work. They are built on a unfalsifiable hypothesis. They are a thought experiment about the future. Thought experiments are incompatible with the scientific method. Evolution is exactly the same thing looking backwards. Evolution and deep time are thought experiments, and not a very good ones. There are so many observed non-conformaties to the observations, measurements & conclusions that honest scientists have to say “I don’t know”. We long ago prostituted the scientific method and we have been pretending for a long, long, time that science reveals the past to us. We don’t have a legitimate leg to stand on when we complain it can’t predict the future.
William
“Evolution and deep time are thought experiments, and not a very good ones”.
I totally agree. They are deceptions just like Global Warming designed to herd humanity into their mold.
G
William Abbott
You claimed without support, “The patterns of Intelligent Design are obvious in all living & inanimate matter.”
Yes, everyone sees faces and creatures in cloud formations and random rug patterns. It is obvious that they are seeing things that aren’t really there. It is the mind assigning familiar patterns to totally random alignments.
Design implies form with purpose. Darwinian evolution sees the purposeful design (adaptation) that is not intelligent. By analogy, a machine such as an automobile has obvious intelligent design. Bill Gates has described DNA as something like a computer programing language, but exponentially more complex. The intelligent design in DNA is obvious. DNA did not randomly assemble itself and then life spontaneously arose. A simple, single-cell bacteria is capable of synthesizing over 4,000 individual protein complexes. Cellular biology is irreducibly complex, intelligent design is obvious.
William Abbot
I agreed with your first three sentences. Then you claimed, “The intelligent design in DNA is obvious.” It may be ‘obvious’ to you, but NOT to me. You then go on to express your personal beliefs as though they are facts that need no proof other than your assertion. That is not sufficient.
I could have expressed the probabilities as a ratio 1 to 1 to the 260 power. It is so improbable that DNA/RNA randomly self-assembled into its complex design that the alternative, intelligent design, becomes more probable than the sun coming up tomorrow.
It’s hard to stick to the facts where there are none. There are only probabilities.
Golden Ratio
It’s in plants, snailshells… DNA… galaxies…
Bootlegger-Baptist coalition
Rent-seeking in Washington is a highly developed art-form and when really humungous amounts of money are involved, it is always the case that a Baptist-bootlegger coalition has been put together to get the necessary legislation through Congress
http://www.lavoisier.com.au/articles/climate-policy/politics/evans2002-2.php
Climate Mob are the contemporary Baptists
Agree. The Marxist/Socialists have never stopped trying to infiltrate the world and despite their poor track record of governance they still have followers. Some of those followers have money and are willing to spend it on their ideology by purchasing media outlets to do their propaganda bidding and other media outlets are just taken over and controlled by the government. I believe you can only lie for so long and the AGW lie can never be proven so it too will eventually fail.
Nope!
A) What you describe, only applies to Western Democracies.
B) WWF is not reputable, ever!
C) NASA and NOAA have been corrupted by activists, including James Hansen who has pushed his pet theory despite evidence to the contrary for many decades.
D) EPA also invite activists to write much of their regulatory apparatus during Obama’s reign.
E)WHO and IPCC have admitted publicly that the whole climate drama is to force socialism upon democracy and redistribute the wealth.
F) The whole assault by leftists and corrupt government components upon President Trump’s administration is because the elitists were frustrated in their attempt to force socialism and wealth redistribution upon civilians.
G) That many coddled spoiled persons have refused learning logic and the sciences in concert with their addictions to like minded echo chamber internet has greatly aided elitists and socialists in their intrusions into Western civilizations.
Rich folks that own coastal properties won’t receive much sympathy if the seas do rise.
As electricity becomes an expensive and less reliable commodity people are going to be unsympathetic to politicians. Sooner or later, people will ask for proof that the predictions used to justify demolishing our way of life are accurate.
At some point teachers, academics, politicians, and scientists will be held to account should Armageddon not occur. People will stop accepting constantly pushing out the date of Armageddon.
May our Creator be merciful.
“At some point teachers, academics, politicians, and scientists will be held to account ….”
Here’s an appropriate punishment for Consensus Crusaders After the Fall (the debunking of CAGW): They must be made to read their alarmist pieces annually on national TV (and once into an organized YouTube archive of such readings) for 20 years, including their implicit haughty / condescending / rabid tones.
…annually on national TV (and once into an organized YouTube archive of such readings) for 20 years…
OMG, Roger! You want to subject all of us to seeing M. Mann on TV for 20 years?? Just who, exactly, are you trying to punish? The US Constitution prohibits cruel and unusual punishment for perpetrators, and you suggest this cruel punishment for the victims? I suggest prison time, perhaps 1 year for every excess winter death that can be attributed to energy poverty caused by CAGW hysteria. That way we won’t have to look at them for a few thousand years.
Our Creator seems to have random tendencies.
Interesting essay and I agree with most of it however this…”People looking for this movement to wind down because of its inherent contradictions will be waiting a long time”…..I’m not so sure of. If you consider the speed with which it manifested, I see no reason why it’s (the co2 driven climate movement’s) inevitable crumbling will occur with the same speed once it becomes ”unfashionable” to adhere to the collective mind – particularly given the modern ability to transfer information.
Mike,
I think that what Murray is saying is that the up-front issue (race, gender, and I add CO2) is no more than the Trojan horse, and if/when that fizzles then the movement will simply jump to a different issue, whatever the merit. Note the almost seamless jump over time from nuclear winter, to acid rain, DDT , fluorocarbons, whaling, CO2, glysophate, vaccines and more recently, plastics. Whatever the merits of the claims made in each case, they are just vehicles to further the Green/Left movement. At least that is how I understand his argument.
The fear of human progress has long and deep intellectual roots. Think back to “Prometheus Bound.” What was that Greek god’s ‘crime’, giving humankind the gift of fire (read “technology” or scientific understanding in modern terms.) The modern post-religious version of future fright starts with Malthus and is picked up by Paul Ehrlich and then the “Club of Rome.” We are doomed because we are the fools that we are, mindlessly increasing our numbers like colonies of invasive insects. It doesn’t matter that food supplies are increasing, not decreasing, that life spans are longer, not shorter, that world-wide poverty is actually decreasing, not increasing. CO2 hysteria is just the latest of these scares, and it has the ring of scientific truth because it flagrantly abuses statistics to distort and obscure the basic truth that nothing alarming is happening to climate, despite the increased use of fossil fuels. There is no interest in gathering more data on the actual ups and downs of atmospheric CO2 worldwide, the ‘experts’ relying almost exclusively on the reports of one scientist reporting from near the top of a volcano in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. Oh, the horror! It will always be true that masses of people can be fooled into following crazy leaders with crazy ideas. Trump is just one example. Mussolini and Hitler were others. Religious founders are others. What makes the latest scare movement somewhat unique is its boast that it is backed by an army of ‘scientists’ doing ‘science’. Unfortunately, most scientists, even some good ones, don’t really know what science is. They didn’t start out with Popper. Maybe they don’t even know what the null hypothesis is, but once they have their PhD and credentials in one field, they think they can pontificate by analogy to other fields, sometimes wisely, sometimes foolishly. Edward O. Wilson, for example, is a genuine expert on insects, and used his bully pulpit to pronounce, without any evidence whatsoever, that modern civilization is leading to countless mass extinctions (why bother counting). Paul Ehrlich made his first reputation as a butterfly expert. Al Gore, besides being a smart politician and the son of another, also fancied himself as an important public intellectual, hence his first scare book, “Earth in the Balance.” After a heart-breaking election loss, he rode that horse into fame and fortune with “An Inconvenient Truth.” Freud must have been smiling in his grave over that one, because the most inconvenient truth was that the whole movie was a very convenient lie.
Many on this list conflate liberalism with both communism and climatism, but I am a strong believer in liberalism supported by scientific evidence and method. Greenism does not have any clear roots in Marxism, BTW. I am not surprised that Donald Trump has done little to prick the doom balloon of climatism in three years of opportunity. He doesn’t get it either. His only interest is himself.
ah, but…the transfer of any oppositional info IS being blocked by gurgle n others
its the only hope they have to keep the sheeple in the crush, to be shorn/slaughtered