Michael E Mann, Loser

From Steyn Online

Mark Steyn eloquently evicerates Mann’s blathering online about not really losing to Tim Ball.

For a start, although Mann always presents himself as the victim, it is important to remember that, in this case as in mine, he is the plaintiff: He chose to sue – and without that conscious choice there would be no legal action. So, when Mann says there was no “finding that Ball’s allegations were correct”, Ball did not allege anything: That is a legal term and the only allegations before the Court were Mann’s, in his statement of claim against Ball. Those Mann allegations have been dismissed with prejudice – so, in layman’s terms, Mann lost and Ball won.

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Which is to say it’s over and Mann lost. Whatever the floundering Fraudpants regards in the fevers of his brain as “the real issues”, this judgment is binding on them as it is on all other aspects of his complaint: The Court has found that Mann’s inexcusable behavior prejudiced the defendant, and therefore the case is dismissed. As a point of law, that is a dismissal on the merits: Whatever his “real issues” with Ball, they’re over and done, forever. Tim Ball can declare that Mann belongs in the state pen every day of the week for the next thirty years – because that vital legal question has been adjudicated, and Mann blew it. I’m not surprised none of his lawyers, Canadian or American, want to put their names to Mann’s tosspottery above – because you’d get disbarred if you argued as insanely as this before a judge.

And of course ties it up with his own case against Mann

But, of course, under the American perversion of Common Law, inordinate delay is standard operating procedure. In Mann vs Steyn, the slow-motion plaintiff is now drawling lethargically that, alas, he will be Down Under on “sabbatical” for the next six months so cannot be deposed until he returns sometime in 2020… or 2021… Personally I don’t see why he can’t be deposed in Oz, either by some top-notch Queensland or Victoria silk or indeed, if I happen to be in town, by my good self. But we will see how the DC court rules on that.

To reprise my old line, the process is the punishment: in America fraudulent plaintiffs routinely launch suits that, as with Mann in British Columbia, they have no intention of ever bringing to court, preferring merely to slow-bleed you into settling – as, to their great shame, Ball’s wanker co-defendants the Frontier Centre for Public Policy, did. (It is depressing how useless so many institutions of the right prove when push comes to shove.)

Despite a decade-long onslaught, and to his lasting credit, Tim Ball stood firm – and won. I can do no less.

The full article is here.

HT/John T


Update (EW) – The court judgment makes interesting reading (h/t Dr. Willie Soon)

IN THE SUPREME COURT OF BRITISH COLUMBIA
Citation:
Mann v. Ball,
 
2019 BCSC 1580
Date: 20190822
Docket: S111913
Registry: Vancouver
Between:
Michael Mann
Plaintiff
And:
Timothy (“Tim”) Ball
Defendants
Before: The Honourable Mr. Justice Giaschi
Oral Reasons for Judgment
In Chambers
Counsel for the Plaintiff:
R. McConchie
Counsel for the Defendant, Timothy (“Tim”) Ball:
M. Scherr
D. Juteau
Place and Date of Hearing: 
Vancouver, B.C.
May 27 and August 22, 2019
Place and Date of Judgment:
Vancouver, B.C.
August 22, 2019

 
[1]             THE COURT:  I will render my reasons on the application to dismiss. I reserve the right to amend these reasons for clarity and grammar, but the result will not change.
[2]             The defendant brings an application for an order dismissing the action for delay. 
[3]             The plaintiff, Dr. Mann, and the defendant, Dr. Ball, have dramatically different opinions on climate change. I do not intend to address those differences. It is sufficient that one believes climate change is man-made and the other does not. As a result of the different opinions held, the two have been in near constant conflict for many years.
[4]             The underlying action concerns, first, a statement made by the defendant in an interview conducted on February 9, 2011. He said, “Michael Mann at Penn State should be in the state pen, not Penn State.” This statement was published on a website and is alleged to be defamatory of the plaintiff. The notice of civil claim also alleges multiple other statements published by Mr. Ball are defamatory. It is not necessary that I address the many alleged defamatory statements.
[5]             0690860 Manitoba Ltd. v. Country West Construction, 2009 BCCA 535, at paras. 27-28, sets out the four elements that need to be considered on a motion to dismiss. They are:
a)    Has there been inordinate delay in the prosecution of the matter?;
b)    If there has been inordinate delay, is it excusable in the circumstances?;
c)     Has the delay caused serious prejudice and, if so, does it create a substantial risk that a fair trial is not possible?; and
d)    Whether, on balance, justice requires that the action be dismissed.
[6]             I turn first to whether there has been inordinate delay. Some key dates in the litigation are:
a)    March 25, 2011, the action was commenced;
b)    July 7, 2011, the notice of civil claim was amended;
c)     June 5, 2012, the notice of civil claim was further amended;
d)    From approximately June of 2013 until November of 2014, there were no steps taken in the action;
e)    November 12, 2014, the plaintiff filed a notice of intention to proceed;
f)      February 20, 2017, the matter was initially supposed to go to trial, but that trial date was adjourned;
g)    July 20, 2017, the date of the last communication received from Mr. Mann or his counsel by the defendant. No steps were taken in the matter until March 21, 2019 when the application to dismiss was filed;
h)    April 10, 2019, a second notice of intention to proceed was filed; and
i)       August 9, 2019, after the first day of the hearing of this application, a new trial date was set for January 11, 2021.
[7]             There have been at least two extensive periods of delay. Commencing in approximately June 2013, there was a delay of approximately 15 months where nothing was done to move the matter ahead. There was a second extensive period of delay from July 20, 2017 until the filing of the application to dismiss on March 21, 2019, a delay of 20 months. Again, nothing was done during this period to move the matter ahead. The total time elapsed, from the filing of the notice of civil claim until the application to dismiss was filed, was eight years. It will be almost ten years by the time the matter goes to trial. There have been two periods, of approximately 35 months in total, where nothing was done. In my view, by any measure, this is an inordinate delay.
[8]             I now turn to whether the delay is excusable. In my view, it is not. There is no evidence from the plaintiff explaining the delay. Dr. Mann filed an affidavit but he provides no evidence whatsoever addressing the delay. Importantly, he does not provide any evidence saying that the delay was due to his counsel, nor does he provide evidence that he instructed his counsel to proceed diligently with the matter. He simply does not address delay at all. 
[9]             Counsel for Dr. Mann submits that the delay was due to his being busy on other matters, but the affidavit evidence falls far short of establishing this. The affidavit of Jocelyn Molnar, filed April 10, 2019, simply addresses what matters plaintiff’s counsel was involved in at various times. The affidavit does not connect those other matters to the delay here. It does not explain the lengthy delay in 2013 and 2014 and does not adequately explain the delay from July 2017. The evidence falls far short of establishing an excuse for the delay. 
[10]         Even if I was satisfied that the evidence established the delay was solely due to plaintiff’s counsel being busy with other matters, which I am not, I do not agree that this would be an adequate excuse. Counsel for the plaintiff was unable to provide any authority establishing that counsel’s busy schedule is a valid excuse for delay. In contrast, the defendant refers me to Hughes v. Simpson‑Sears, [1988] 52 D.L.R. (4th) 553, where Justice Twaddle, writing on behalf of the Manitoba Court of Appeal, stated at p. 13 that:
…Freedman, J.A. said that the overriding principle in cases of this kind is “essential justice”. There is no doubt that that is so, but it must mean justice to both parties, not just to one of them.
In Law Society of Manitoba v. Eadie (judgment delivered on June 27, 1988), I stated my preference for a one-step application of the fundamental principle on which motions of this kind should be decided. The fundamental principle is that a plaintiff should not be deprived of his right to have his case decided on its merits unless he is responsible for undue delay which has prejudiced the other party. A plaintiff is responsible for delays occasioned by his solicitors.
 I have already dealt with the consequence of the solicitors’ conduct being negligent. Once it is established that the delay is unreasonable having regard to the subject matter of the action, the complexity of the issues, and the explanation for it, the other matter to be considered is the prejudice to the defendant. It is in the task of balancing the plaintiff’s right to proceed with the defendant’s right not to be prejudiced by unreasonable delay that justice must be done.
[Emphasis added]
[11]         Additionally, based upon the evidence filed, the plaintiff and his counsel appear to have attended to other matters, both legal matters and professional matters in the case of the plaintiff, rather than give this matter any priority. The plaintiff appears to have been content to simply let this matter languish. 
[12]         Accordingly, I find that the delay is inexcusable.
[13]         With respect to prejudice, such prejudice is presumed unless the prejudice is rebutted. Indeed, the presumption of prejudice is given even more weight in defamation cases: Samson v. Scaletta, 2016 BCSC 2598, at paras 40-43. The plaintiff has not filed any evidence rebutting the presumption of prejudice. 
[14]         Moreover, the defendant has led actual evidence of actual prejudice. The evidence is that the defendant intended to call three witnesses at trial who would have provided evidence going to fair comment and malice. Those witnesses have now died. A fourth witness is no longer able to travel. Thus, in addition to finding that presumption of prejudice has not been rebutted, I also find that there has been actual prejudice to the defendant as a consequence of the delay.
[15]         Turning to the final factor, I have little hesitation in finding that, on balance, justice requires the action be dismissed. The parties are both in their eighties and Dr. Ball is in poor health. He has had this action hanging over his head like the sword of Damocles for eight years and he will need to wait until January 2021 before the matter proceeds to trial. That is a ten year delay from the original alleged defamatory statement. Other witnesses are also elderly or in poor health. The memories of all parties and witnesses will have faded by the time the matter goes to trial.
[16]         I find that, because of the delay, it will be difficult, if not impossible, for there to be a fair trial for the defendant. This is a relatively straightforward defamation action and should have been resolved long before now. That it has not been resolved is because the plaintiff has not given it the priority that he should have. In the circumstances, justice requires that the action be dismissed and, accordingly, I do hereby dismiss the action for delay.
[17]         Before concluding, I wish to note that the materials that have been filed on this application are grossly excessive in relation to the matters in issue. There are four large binders of materials filed by the plaintiff on the application to dismiss, plus one additional binder from the defendant. The binders contain multiple serial affidavits, many of which are replete with completely irrelevant evidence. In my view, this application could have been done and should have been done with one or two affidavits outlining the delay, the reasons for the delay, and the prejudice.
[18]         Those are my reasons, counsel. Costs?
[19]         MR. SCHERR:  I would, of course, ask for costs for the defendant, given the dismissal of the action.
[20]         MR. MCCONCHIE:  Costs follow the event. I have no quarrel with that.
[21]         THE COURT:  All right. I agree. The costs will follow the event, so the defendant will have his costs of the application and also the costs of the action, since the action is dismissed.
[22]         The outstanding application, I gather there is no reason to proceed with it now.
[23]         MR. MCCONCHIE:  It is academic, in light of –
[24]         THE COURT:  It is academic.
[25]         MR. MCCONCHIE:  – Your Lordship’s ruling today.
[26]         THE COURT:  Right. Thank you, gentlemen. Anything else?
[27]         MR. SCHERR:  No, Your Honour.
[28]         THE COURT:  All right.
[29]         MR. SCHERR:  No, My Lord.
[30]         THE COURT:  Then, we are concluded and you shall have your materials back, which are these binders. Thank you, gentlemen. 
“Giaschi J.”

Source: https://www.bccourts.ca/jdb-txt/sc/19/15/2019BCSC1580.htm

Its not all good news for climate skeptics; Mann has had a win in his case against Steyn, the judge in D.C. refused Steyn’s motion to dismiss.

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328 Comments
September 20, 2019 2:11 pm

How could Mann claim he suffered from “defamation” when he later claimed to be a Nobel Laureate?
Wrong on both counts?

tom0mason
September 20, 2019 3:34 pm

Josh’s cartoon says it better in one cartoon than all the thousands of words written since the verdict was given.
Excellent Josh — right on the money!

chickenhawk
September 20, 2019 5:26 pm

Thanks Rob…

for all the laughs.

Learn the subtle art of persuasion and put down your sledgehammer.

Jeff Alberts
September 20, 2019 6:21 pm

“For a start, although Mann always presents himself as the victim, it is important to remember that, in this case as in mine, he is the plaintiff”

How does being a plaintiff make him not a victim? Logic doesn’t follow there.

james feltus
September 20, 2019 6:25 pm

You are definitely not alone. And, as long as I’m here, I want to thank Rob for so bombastically professing his “One True Religion”. It’s complete nonsense, of course, but the devil in me just loves to watch him, who is obviously a High Priest, or maybe even a Neighborhood Watch Captain, do faceplants…over, and over, and over. He’s “…all sound and fury, signifying nothing.”

John Tillman
Reply to  james feltus
September 20, 2019 9:54 pm

Yes, if Rob didn’t exist, it would be expedient for us to fabricate him, or a simulacrum thereof.

Stevek
September 20, 2019 6:40 pm

The ironic thing is tree rings have now showed negative feedback.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/phys.org/news/2019-03-experts-reveal-clouds-moderated-triggered.amp

MarkW
Reply to  Stevek
September 20, 2019 9:02 pm

Which is why they had to truncate the proxies and start using the thermometer record.

Rob
Reply to  MarkW
September 20, 2019 10:21 pm

Which is why they had to truncate the proxies and start using the thermometer record.

Such ignorance is not to be admired. 173 independent temperature-sensitive paleoclimate proxy records un-calibrated to instrument data conclude that the planet has been in a warming trend since 1880 with data going back to 1730. The fastest warming period was the last 25 years of the data (1980 -2005) which was significantly faster than the long-term trend of 1880 -2005. The published science is freely available and even feckless you should be able to find it with a simple Google search.

MarkW
Reply to  Rob
September 21, 2019 9:10 am

Poor Rob, reduced to refuting arguments nobody has ever made.
It’s also quite obvious that he has absolutely no knowledge of any the science behind global warming. He just regurgitates NYT editorials on clue.

I’ve never, not even once denied the fact that the world has warmed since the end of the little ice age. What I deny is the claims by you that CO2 was responsible for this warming. There isn’t a shred of science behind your belief that only CO2 explains this warming.

On the other hand, the so called hockey stick which you have so offensively defended denies the existence of the LIA.

Rob
Reply to  MarkW
September 21, 2019 9:45 am

My creepy cyberstalker lives in a world of fantasy.

John Tillman
Reply to  Stevek
September 20, 2019 9:09 pm

As above, negative feedback is to be expected on a self-regulating water world.

That means that the lab value for ECS of 1.1 K per doubling of CO2 should be 0.0 to 1.0 K with feedbacks rather than the IPCC’s fanciful 3.0 to 4.5 K.

MarkW
Reply to  John Tillman
September 21, 2019 9:11 am

Almost all of the recent estimates of ECS based on real world data, not models, have found the ECS to be less than 1.0C.

John Tillman
Reply to  MarkW
September 22, 2019 12:15 am

Many commenters here and contributors elsewhere might disagree, but I agree with you that net feedbacks are in fact negative, for a global ECS between 0.0 and 1.0 K.

John Tillman
September 20, 2019 9:33 pm

CtM,

My brother, you’re welcome.

Glad that you and so many other readers enjoyed Steyn’s inimicable rejoinder to Mann’s pathetic, megalomanical raving lunacy.

John T.

September 21, 2019 2:10 am

It seems like lone-troll-Rob is all there is remaining in an last ditch PR effort to salvage some of remnants of those Manninan machinations which gave the world that Hockey Stick with which they tried to sell a gullible world that CAGW-narrative.

How many times can you say ‘ corroborated’ ‘many times since’ by ‘peer reviewed’ or found in the ‘primary literature’ without having a clue but still believing such phrases amount to an argument (for the CAGW-belief system that cannot be questioned)?

The crux is very simple:
Tree rings are not temperature-reading instruments, not even temperature proxies. (As the ‘divergence’, the decline that needed to be hidden clearly demonstrates).

Tree rings can be used for pinpointing historical events called dendro-chronology, but dendro-climotology is essentially pseudo science.

For other practical purposes tree rings should be viewed as random noise. And when you then select sequences with an uptick towards the end, give them extra extra weight in the assessments, claim that that uptick makes them temperature proxies, of course you’d get both the ‘modern era uptick’ and the straight handle of the stick (since there you’re just averaging trendless noise).

But if Mann (still?) maintains the opposite, we all just should take theses claims as gospel. At least that’s what Rob maintains while stamping his feet …

Apparently because of ‘peer review’ or ‘denier’ or ‘right-wing’ or some such …

Well. It hasn’t worked before other than on the sheeple and already-believers in the CAGW-cult. But they still try …

🙂

A

Reply to  Jonas N
September 21, 2019 6:22 am

Its always amazed me how an exercise set for a PhD student that once written should have been filed under ‘Cute manipulation of data but don’t repeat this’ went on to the the poster child it did.

MarkW
Reply to  John Holmes
September 21, 2019 9:12 am

It was useful.

September 21, 2019 4:59 am

Troll Rob’s playbook dates from 9 -> 10 years ago and – just passing through – I note that rational argument is still missing from his approach even now.

In the old days Anthony would have binned him at the second insult. The fact that he doesn’t do that now either means that he’s keeping Rob around for our amusement or that he has become more tolerant of the perennially stupid.

Bit of both probably.

(Don’t bother to come back on this Rob. Back in the day I heard all the foaming insults from some famously heavyweight climate trolls. You’re nowhere near their league.)

Rob
Reply to  Jerry Mead
September 21, 2019 7:45 am

Tissue …

Reply to  Rob
September 21, 2019 8:31 pm

Toilet tissue for you. (^_^)

Need I spell out why? — NO, so I”ll just abbreviate: …………………… BS

Chet
September 21, 2019 12:08 pm

There is NO WAY that “Rob” isn’t Mann.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Chet
September 22, 2019 7:22 am

Yeah! Who else would defend Mann so vigorously? 🙂

aussiecol
September 22, 2019 12:06 am

Wow, this has been entertainment plus.
Thanks ”Rob” for one of the biggest put down of trolls I have witnessed on this site for quite some time. Such a shame you can’t make a ”Mann” out of your self and face up to observational reality, I guess mother nature will take care of that in the end when CAGW has been proven to be the biggest con against humanity in history.

Rob
Reply to  aussiecol
September 22, 2019 12:29 am

There is no such science as CAGW. This well worn out denier and contrarian meme is a comfort blanket for the mentally handicapped snowflakes in their cults and claques of fiction. Only fundamentalist trolls with a hard-on for world destruction use such silly language. You can change and recover by reversing your aliteracy. Give it try – it won’t hurt a bit – I promise.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Rob
September 22, 2019 7:39 am

“There is no such science as CAGW [Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming].”

Are you denying that alarmists are not predicting “Catastrophic” effects from too much AGW [Anthropogenic Global Warming], Rob?

Just about every thunderstorm nowadays is [falsely] claimed by alarmists to be causing catastrophic, unprecedented damage due to increased CO2 in the atmosphere. That’s CAGW, Rob. If you don’t want to call it by that name, it’s fine with me. Personally, I like to use the most descriptive terms and CAGW describes the situation perfecly.

The alarmists claim human-caused climate change catastrophe is in our future and is even making itself evident today. All completely false of course, but that’s the claim they make and to deny that CAGW is not part of the fraud is incorrect. CAGW is the main part of the fraud. Without the scary CAGW part, the alarmists would have nothing to sell to keep them in grant/tax money.

Rob
Reply to  Tom Abbott
September 22, 2019 8:01 am

Silly child, it is alarmists like you and your cult of ignorant science disbelievers that invoke the conspiracies of CAGW. Educated and experienced scientists and scientifically literate folk know that adding energy will amplify or enhance the natural weather patterns and systems. Your personal likes and dislikes are immaterial to science which is precise and as unambiguous as possible. Your follies fall by the wayside of the highway of reality. Good luck growing up and hopefully maturing into a sensible adult.

aussiecol
Reply to  Rob
September 22, 2019 1:17 pm

”There is no such science as CAGW.”…… Oh really?? Please explain to me then as to why there is supposed to be a climate ”crisis” then??? Every day there is some alarmist story trying to link a weather event to a man made climate change. And that’s science??
The only thing that comes to mind about you Rob, are the words septic tank. And your full of it.
Cheers.

Rob
Reply to  aussiecol
September 22, 2019 1:45 pm

Bleat elsewhere. There is no such science as CAGW except in your denier bubble. Not my fault you are as so indoctrinated, thick as a brick and are grossly under-educated too.

Reply to  aussiecol
September 22, 2019 7:53 am

Oh yes, there is plenty of effort trying to put out all kind of CAGW predictions, and feeding the CAGW-narrative to a wider public under the pretense of it being ‘science’. Which in CAGW-parlance (and also other politically motivated academic narrative building) means nothing more than ‘published’ in some journal claiming to use ‘peer review’ in their acceptance process.

The obvious (and disingenuous) attempts to counter this, ie claiming that the term CAGW isn’t used by those promoting it, just reinforces the fact that its all about narrative building, even if it requires the silliest of word games.

September 22, 2019 10:46 am

There is no such science as CAGW. This well worn out denier and contrarian meme is a comfort blanket for the mentally handicapped snowflakes in their cults and claques of fiction. Only fundamentalist trolls with a hard-on for world destruction use such silly language. You can change and recover by reversing your illiteracy. Give it try – it won’t hurt a bit – I promise.

Assuredly CAGW is not a science. Thus, there is no meme or comfort blanket for mentally handicapped snowflakes and cliques of fiction here. Your subsequent words that hang on these, consequently, lack substance, as well. You obviously sculpt your spiteful retort with 100% straw, which is not unexpected for a son of the Great Oz.

Silly child, it is alarmists like you and your cult of ignorant science disbelievers that invoke the conspiracies of CAGW. Educated and experienced scientists and scientifically literate folk know that adding energy will amplify or enhance the natural weather patterns and systems. Your personal likes and dislikes are immaterial to science which is precise and as unambiguous as possible. Your follies fall by the wayside of the highway of reality. Good luck growing up and hopefully maturing into a sensible adult.

You lower yourself to speak to silly children, which seems odd, given your grand knowledge that rises so high above us. This might lead one to ask why you would play with children so much. I suspect that this is because the hollows of your self deception and narcissist canyons cannot be adequately filled with rousing rounds of playing with yourself.

Rob
Reply to  Robert Kernodle
September 22, 2019 12:34 pm

You lower yourself to speak to silly children

Children need guidance. You should seek out some sensible mature and learned adults. BTW – I know that you, like most others on this echo-chamber will not be swayed … but someone has to give those less delusional the science that you gainsay.

Henrik
Reply to  Rob
September 22, 2019 5:30 pm

No need to respond to a paid troll.
This NPC attracts way too much attention.
Bye, Rob.

September 22, 2019 3:39 pm

What evidence do we have that Rob is not the Mannster ? ‘Rob-bed by a judicial process that unlike peer review cannot be leant on : certainly fired up to troll almost everyone but in particular those who have stood for rigorous science and have pointed out the Mann-y flows in MBH and others :
presumably the moderators are investigating

Reply to  Dorothy
September 23, 2019 4:14 am

Nope, Rob is not the Mannster … ‘he’ is just as likely to be a construct of the Petersburg Internet Research Agency (the Trolls from Olgino).

“OK Pasha, you can be Rob this morning. Here’s the English thesaurus and the book of climate insults. Now off you go and wind up the WUWT commentators. You score 10 kopeks for everyone you either insult or upset.

Enjoy, and make your botox’d zek of an employer proud.”

Pravda, Robski?

Rob
Reply to  Jerry Mead
September 23, 2019 4:49 am

Tavarish, Иди трахни себя, spaciba bolshoi.

Reply to  Rob
September 23, 2019 5:11 am

For those who don’t speak Russian, ‘Rob’ is telling me (via cut ‘n’ paste) to go **ck myself’.

Rob
Reply to  Jerry Mead
September 23, 2019 8:36 am

You initiate childish slurs against me and when I respond (not cut ‘n’ paste) as you falsely assert physically and technically to defend myself, you start whimpering and appeal to authority. You are a typical cyberbully coward. I have examined invertebrates with more spine than you. Neutered dogs have more balls than you. Grow up and a pair. Don’t enter frays you cannot defend or play in, snowflake.

Reply to  Jerry Mead
September 23, 2019 9:48 am

The poor feels the necessity to defend himself. 😀
I’m just searching for a comment from Rob withour any insult of a commenter. Wonder, I didn’t find one ?

So, Rob, continue to defend your trolling, more you do, more I laugh 😀

Rob
Reply to  Krishna Gans
September 23, 2019 9:52 am

If your research was as thorough as you imply, you should be turning up different results. Have any literate person to help who knows what they’re doing?

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Jerry Mead
September 25, 2019 10:07 pm

Rob epitomizes the phrase “anonymous coward”.

September 23, 2019 9:12 am

Twat.

Chet
September 24, 2019 6:53 am

“Rob”,
You say that you’re a scientist. Okay then – where are you a scientist? What company/university/organization is cutting your paycheck???
Also, can you please name any and all certifications/qualifications/degrees you currently hold, and from what university(s) did you study/graduate??

Thanks.

Reply to  Chet
September 24, 2019 8:55 am

On another thread ‘Rob’ boasts:

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/09/23/here-are-the-scenes-from-dcs-climate-protest/#comment-2803670

“I know my own career very well after five decades and also a registered professional scientist in the US and internationally where such was required … I have authored or co-authored hundred’s of scientific reports and the odd peer-reviewed paper. I have also contributed to several seminal books on applied Earth and Climate science.”

If that is all true (and I personally doubt it as I believe that ‘Rob’ is a Russian bot) and can be proven to be so (any time you like for that, ‘Rob’) then it is something to be proud of.

But if so then you have to wonder what hideous life occurrence happened that turned ‘Rob’ into such an unpleasant arrogant twat.

Rob
Reply to  Jerry Mead
September 24, 2019 10:46 am

Your self-projection is unbecoming of an adult twat. Jealousy and envy make spineless humans like you, vile and mean! Grow up!

kim
Reply to  Rob
September 24, 2019 6:22 pm

Heh, ‘odd peer-reviewed paper’ makes me laugh. But this is the ‘odd rare’, not the ‘odd peculiar’, though I suppose it could possibly be both.
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Rob
Reply to  Chet
September 24, 2019 10:48 am

Your first pumpkin. Please proceed …

kim
September 24, 2019 6:16 pm

Tone tells, Rob sells, Hell’s bells.

As mentioned above, it is the straight shaft of the Piltdown Mann’s Crook’d Stick which is the lie. Temperature varies naturally, and we don’t know why. That natural variation has been artificially suppressed in the alarmist narrative mainly means that the alarmists will eventually be demolished by natural cooling.

This is part of the reason for the increasing hysteria in the alarmist movement, and possibly explains the hysterical Rob. Wow, has he bought the fake news, hook, line and sinker.

This false narrative of climate doom is an appeal to fear and guilt, and will eventually fail simply because science cannot support it.

Sorry, Rob, you are a victim.
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kim
September 24, 2019 6:39 pm

Rob is intelligent and well trained, and he has all the memes of the standard Gorebot down pat. The one that has long amused me the most is the attempt at denial of the CAGW meme. For consistency then, Rob, why all the hysteria lately of 12 more years, and the recent insistence that any unusual weather event is a sign of anthropogenic change?

The false narrative of climate doom is getting less and less logical; it’s fairly amusing that a logical discipline, science, has been the vehicle. It could have been predicted that it would eventually fail, but why has it been persisted upon when it was sure that it would boomerang.

The damages and deaths these evil narrators have done, are doing, and will continue to do could have been predicted, and still it went on. Why? Oh yes, politics, which is being increasingly admitted.

Mostly, I’m just saddened that so many climate scientists whored themselves out to this gimmick, and have damaged not just climate science, but all of science. This has been a terrifying pathology.

Nonetheless, we’ll survive and thrive. But lost opportunity costs compound and we’ve already damaged succeeding generations with this nonsense.

It shall not be forgotten, and my hope is that our recovery from this madness of the crowd may partially immunize us from future such sickness.
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