UN De-platforms the USA at the New York Climate Summit

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UN Secretary General António Guterres. By DFID – UK Department for International Development – https://www.flickr.com/photos/dfid/30720847110/, CC BY-SA 2.0, Link

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

The United Nations has allegedly deplatformed countries including the USA, Australia and South Africa from the upcoming climate conference in New York, because those nations support building coal plants, though China and India will still be invited to speak.

Leading countries blocked from speaking at UN climate summit
Secretary-general takes tough line on select coal-supporting nations

Leslie Hook in London

Leading economies such as Japan and Australia will not be invited to speak at next week’s crunch UN climate change summit, as their continued support for coal clashes with the demands of the organisation’s secretary-general as he sounds the alarm on climate change.

Also excluded will be the US, which has said it intends to withdraw from the Paris climate agreement, as well as Brazil and Saudi Arabia, which have criticised the climate pact.

“Only the boldest and most transformative actions [will] make the stage,” said Amina Mohammed, UN deputy secretary-general, on Wednesday. “We will see on Monday who is stepping up.”

However some coal-loving countries such as China and India, the world’s two biggest builders of new coal stations, will still speak at the summit, according to the draft agenda. 

Read more: https://www.ft.com/content/1902158a-d994-11e9-8f9b-77216ebe1f17

How do you think the USA, Australia, South Africa and other nations should respond to this UN snub?

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Robin Beran
September 19, 2019 6:06 pm

Trump should save the US lots of money and wasted effort and pull the US out. Sell the NY properties and pay down some deficits.

JS
Reply to  Robin Beran
September 19, 2019 6:29 pm

You pretty much stole my reply. Deplatform the UN. They can rebuild in SYria or the Congo or some other place where everything is a wreck and they insist it is all our fault. i’m sure they will be happy to host the constant US-hate fest there.
Of course, the delegates are likely to be shot, stabbed, blown to bits, or contract some terrible disease on their way to the UN building in those countries, but US delegates have been disinvited so I guess that isn’t our concern any longer.

Bryan A
Reply to  JS
September 19, 2019 10:33 pm

Perhaps a good old fashioned protest/picketing/sit-in/stand-in/glue-in blocking all access to the buildings preventing the participants from even holding the ClimateFest. It’s difficult to hold a Climate Change Wah Wah session if they can’t get to the doors.

Bryan A
Reply to  Bryan A
September 19, 2019 10:33 pm

Yellow Vests required

DANNY DAVIS
Reply to  Robin Beran
September 19, 2019 8:12 pm

Agree! The U.S.A. should send ’em packing. Yellowknife, Government Center and Capital of Northwest Territories, Canada should invite them to relocate to the Great White North!
They can monitor Global Warming from there…

Alan the Brit
Reply to  DANNY DAVIS
September 19, 2019 11:26 pm

Quite right too! After all, North/Arctic is the fastest warming area of the planet, according to the British Brainwashing Commissariate this morningon tv & radio, so it must be true! Still, all that ice that should have all gone in 2014 still stubbornly resists the demands of the lefties to melt! Why won’t nature listen to the narrative & do what it’s told to do? AtB

Gerry, England
Reply to  Alan the Brit
September 20, 2019 5:49 am

Greenland! Ideal place given that it is positively tropical these days – allegedly.

Robert of Ottawa
Reply to  Gerry, England
September 20, 2019 2:05 pm

And still US territory 🙂

Robert of Ottawa
Reply to  DANNY DAVIS
September 20, 2019 2:04 pm

Don’t go givin’ “ol’ blackface” any ideas.

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  DANNY DAVIS
September 20, 2019 6:05 pm

Sorry. The UN needs to be at point near the center of Africa. About 10°N & 20°E. In Chad. Their speechs denouncing capitalism and imperialism would sound very hollow.

OldBruin
Reply to  Robin Beran
September 19, 2019 8:15 pm

Patience Robin.
Wait till January 2021. The Republicans will control both Houses, and President Trump will sign the bill to get out of the U.N. and kick the U.N. out of N.Y.

Paul Penrose
Reply to  OldBruin
September 19, 2019 9:37 pm

Nice thought, but it won’t happen even if Trump wins in 2020 and the Republicans win the House. Too many Republicans think that being a world leader means being internationally popular.

RockyRoad
Reply to  Paul Penrose
September 19, 2019 10:02 pm

Paul,
Then those silly Republicans picked the wrong venue! The US hasn’t been popular in the UN since the West won WW II. And I can’t think of a single thing that would change their minds!

Alan the Brit
Reply to  RockyRoad
September 19, 2019 11:30 pm

No, I disagree a little bit. The US hasn’t been popular in the UN ever since it stood its ground & lead what was left of the free democratic West, in the global battle against Communism/Socialism, the two greatest killers on the planet!

MarkW
Reply to  RockyRoad
September 20, 2019 7:03 am

If the war on global warming continues at it’s current pace, it won’t be too many years until the death toll from that war challenges the death toll from these other left wing ventures.

jdgalt
Reply to  Paul Penrose
September 20, 2019 9:59 am

Leaving the UN would show that we are more of a serious country and thus gain us friends, at least among the countries that matter, that is, countries that aren’t poor dictatorships. (If we’re going to care about poor dictatorships our agenda should be to encourage the masses to free themselves, not to stay friends with the boss.)

Reply to  OldBruin
September 19, 2019 11:05 pm

I hope so!!

fred250
Reply to  Robin Beran
September 19, 2019 10:59 pm

Time to de-platform the UN..

To some third world country preferably.

Eviction time !!!

Alan the Brit
Reply to  fred250
September 19, 2019 11:31 pm

I hear Venezuala is looking for some kudos on the World stage!

Phaedo
Reply to  Robin Beran
September 19, 2019 11:18 pm

It would be the single greatest thing any world leader could do, to help remove the UN. It has singularly failed in it’s founding objectives so why keep it around.

KilgoreHoover
Reply to  Robin Beran
September 20, 2019 2:45 am

Absofreakinglutely. De-platform the UN. Kick all the freeloaders out and repurpose the building for low-income housing, or mortgage-free housing for vets, or a psychiatric center for climate-obsessed Scadanavian teenagers. The possibilities are endless. Level the building and create a parking lot, or a dog park, or a skateboard park. Make the useless UN useful.

George Hilman
Reply to  KilgoreHoover
September 20, 2019 8:12 pm

Convert it to a monument to the stupidity of international socialism – aka united nations united over the idea of sucking the US dry – aka communism.

Random question: Why did we stay in when the UN kicked out Taiwan (at the insistence of communist China)?

Another random question: Has anyone ever done a cost-benefit analysis of the US’ membership in the UN?

F.LEGHORN
Reply to  George Hilman
September 22, 2019 10:13 am

To do a cost/benefit analysis there has to be a benefit.

james feltus
Reply to  George Hilman
September 25, 2019 11:48 am

No analysis needed; there are no benefits to the US, only costs. Throw the entire stupid, whimpering bunch of socialist, freeloading thugs out. I say to put it in Germany, where they’d probably welcome the infestation. I think we should get out of NATO, too, and let the Germans run the resulting combined dog and pony show. Let them be the major financial support for the whole useless, stinking mess, with the costs matching their inflated egos.

Dan Sudlik
Reply to  Robin Beran
September 20, 2019 6:10 am

Plus 1,000,000. What in the world are we still doing having them meet here when we get no respect at all. How about Gaza. Better still Iran.

Mark Broderick
September 19, 2019 6:16 pm

How about the U.N. getting “de-platformed from U.S. soil ?

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Mark Broderick
September 19, 2019 7:40 pm

The sooner, the better for liberty, sovereignty, and the economy.

Bryan A
Reply to  Pop Piasa
September 19, 2019 10:46 pm

The U.S. must remain a permanent member if for no other reason it gives us the right to veto any legislation

Rod Evans
Reply to  Bryan A
September 19, 2019 11:32 pm

It is worth remembering UN legislation is not binding on any nation that does not adopt it.
The UN is not the law maker though it sometimes thinks it is.
It may be time to remind the UN, it is a servant of the people not a controller of them.

DiogenesNJ
Reply to  Rod Evans
September 20, 2019 6:49 am

True enough. Would you kindly remind the administrative state here in the US of the same thing?

MarkW
Reply to  Bryan A
September 20, 2019 7:05 am

That would be like vetoing a sense of the congress resolution.

Don Perry
Reply to  Mark Broderick
September 19, 2019 8:00 pm

Ditto

badEnglish
September 19, 2019 6:21 pm

To answer the question posed at the end of the story: keep doing what you’re doing. Reminds me of my daughter being invited to join the “cool girls club” at her new school and being ejected shortly thereafter for calling out the girls’ snooty and mean behaviour. She was just fine with it; “they can have their mean girls club!” And that from a ten year old, no less.

Robert Keon
September 19, 2019 6:22 pm

The deplatformed countries should follow the USA lead and withdraw from the Paris accord and seriously consider withdrawing from the UN altogether as they are a threat to the sovereignty of every capitalist country on the planet.
This is a mind war and it works very well on kids.
It won’t be long before kids are calling on China to invade Australia to remove it’s nasty capitalist supporting conservative government. We know the UN wants to conquer capitalism. It’s a good reason for their continued support of China, even though they’re the world’s largest emitter. The difference is China is not a capitalist country. Clearly this is not about CO2 emissions.
Conquering Australia would be a good first step to destroying capitalism. Who would be next?

JaneHM
Reply to  Robert Keon
September 19, 2019 7:00 pm
Scissor
Reply to  JaneHM
September 19, 2019 7:41 pm

I see where the daughter gets her good looks.

H.R.
Reply to  Scissor
September 19, 2019 8:58 pm

The postman?
;o)

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Scissor
September 19, 2019 9:18 pm

That’s uncalled for.

LdB
Reply to  JaneHM
September 19, 2019 8:55 pm

If the Australia kids really wanted to do something for the cause they could stop using the air conditioning and only use internet and phones when absolutely necessary. Put that to them and see if you come out in piece 🙂

Alex
Reply to  JaneHM
September 19, 2019 10:51 pm

‘Teachers understand the democratic right that students have to take part’,
Since when was a school a democracy? Since when was a family(with children) a democracy?
You can take time off school but it’s not a ‘right’. You don’t have a ‘democratic right’ to do what you want when you’re working for someone. You don’t have a ‘democratic right ‘ to disrupt other peoples lives.

Rhys Jaggar
Reply to  Alex
September 21, 2019 9:07 am

And employers do not have a right to put their employees under unconsented surveillance, including in their own homes. But they do it.

Stop making out employers are enlightened. They are the exact opposite.

icisil
Reply to  JaneHM
September 20, 2019 3:05 am

Self-fulfilling prophecy: Harm your future by neglecting education because you fear a prophesied harmful future.

Rocketscientist
Reply to  JaneHM
September 20, 2019 8:30 am

Such an “honors” student so woefully ignorant of actual science. If she is as bright as claimed she will only feel deep embarrassment at this utterly foolish and juvenile stunt in her future years.

We should tell children today that we will remind then of their stupidity tomorrow. Perhaps the brighter ones might wisen up before they tarnish themselves.

Alex
Reply to  Robert Keon
September 19, 2019 7:18 pm

China is a capitalist country .

Juan Slayton
Reply to  Alex
September 19, 2019 7:51 pm

China is a capitalist country .

And the Pope is a baptist…

Alex
Reply to  Juan Slayton
September 19, 2019 8:27 pm

I suggest googling capitalism. A further googling will probably tell you that there are more millionaires and billionaires in China than in any other country. I’m also wondering why I am having this conversation with an illiterate.

Jeremiah Puckett
Reply to  Alex
September 19, 2019 10:10 pm

Most companies in China are run by military generals. There might be millionaires and billionaires, but nearly everything is controlled by the government. Have you not heard of China’s social score system? Capitalist. HAHAHAHAHA

Alex
Reply to  Alex
September 19, 2019 11:01 pm

Jeremiah,
I guess, your in depth knowledge about China comes from living there for 14 years and having acquaintances there who were involved in businesses large and small.
I bow to your expertise.
China is not perfect by any means, I’m not sure what country is. Perhaps you can tell me.
I’m just getting sick to death of misinformation.

Craig from Oz
Reply to  Alex
September 19, 2019 11:12 pm

And I suggest removing google as your default search engine.

Eastasia… sorry, China is a controlled country. It is not remotely free and not remotely capitalist.

Soviet Russia used money. Soviets brought and sold. Soviet Russia was not capitalist.

The core point of capitalism is not the buying and selling, it is the buying and selling without regulation. You know the phrase “Let the free market decide”? If you don’t know what that means, or worse, have never heard of it then you might be in honest trouble. Not saying you have to agree with it’s merits, just understand the principle. Personally I you not only don’t agree, but also fail to understand, but feel free to clarify your position.

While your blind obedience to the homeland might give you a warm fuzzy and/or social score, it might not win you any friends in the rest of the world.

Let me make it simple – China is not your friend. China is, at best, your neighbour.

Alex
Reply to  Alex
September 19, 2019 11:48 pm

Craig
Keep up with the times. I thought that everyone knew that the term ‘googling’ was a euphemism for searching, like ‘hoovering’ is for vacuuming.
As it happens, I use DuckDuckGo.
Your blind obedience to Chinaphobia is laughable. You have a ‘reds under the bed’ attitude. There is no chance of having a reasonable discussion with your attitude. I might point out that I am not Chinese, I’m not sure where your ‘blind obedience to the homeland’ comment comes from. You are either drunk or insane.

Schitzree
Reply to  Alex
September 20, 2019 1:02 am

There is no chance of having a reasonable discussion with your attitude

Pfff HA HA HA HA HA

Every post by you includes some random insult. You come across like some low paid propagandist for the ministry of culture, make ridiculously assertions about things you clearly don’t understand, and when someone points out how obviously wrong you are (or worst, explains in detail) you declare the discussion over.

If you were really trying to convince anyone that China is a capitalist country, I’m afraid you failed.

~¿~

Matthew Schilling
Reply to  Alex
September 20, 2019 5:49 am

Congratulations! You knocked “Some people did some things” off its pedestal as the most obnoxious and obtuse understatement of all time! Good for you, man!

I have two words for anyone carrying water for the tyrants in Beijing: Falun Gong. The same murderous mafia that perpetrated Tiananmen Square brutalized thousands of people… for exercising in the park.

Now we see, with their social scores, that they’ve made tyranny more intrusive, invasive and pervasive than anywhere ever in the sad history of our species

It’s been the Year of the Pig in COMMUNIST China every year since 1948.

MarkW
Reply to  Alex
September 20, 2019 7:07 am

Are you actually claiming there are no rich people in socialist countries?

And to think, you call others illiterate.

MarkW
Reply to  Alex
September 20, 2019 7:08 am

To some people, there is pure communism, and everything else is a form of capitalism.

Matthew Schilling
Reply to  Alex
September 20, 2019 7:16 am

“I guess, your in depth knowledge about China comes from living there for 14 years and having acquaintances there who were involved in businesses large and small”

Yeah, and there’s lots of people who have lived in NYC for more than 14 years that have never been to the Empire State Building. It seems you spent 14 years in COMMUNIST China as a real life Forrest Gump – there but unaware.

I’m going to make a WAG and say you didn’t spend much time among the million Uighurs in virtual concentration camps and you were never arrested for exercising in the park and then tortured in jail for it. So much for your 14 years…

Conversely, we know a lot about distant stars to which no human will ever travel – because we study it carefully with our eyes wide open. It’s amazing what we’ve learned from their light. Similarly, many of us are enlightened from afar about the systemic crime against humanity that is COMMUNIST China.

George Hilman
Reply to  Alex
September 20, 2019 8:19 pm

Those millionaires and billionaires can be liquidated at any time by Mao Xi Jinping.

james feltus
Reply to  Alex
September 25, 2019 12:10 pm

“I guess, your in depth knowledge about China comes from living there for 14 years and having acquaintances there who were involved in businesses large and small.”
I’ll translate that: “I lived in China for 14 yrs and STILL don’t know the difference between capitalism and absolute control forced upon people from the top down.”.
You should have bought a clue while over there.

Reply to  Juan Slayton
September 19, 2019 9:17 pm

China is a perfect Fascist state.

Single party, the state is all, crony capitalism, the people are slaves, xenophobic, racially hegemonist, colonialistic, imperialistic, militarily aggressive. Looking for lebensraum. It’s all there.

We now know the end-state of communism: fascism.

Alex
Reply to  Pat Frank
September 19, 2019 9:50 pm

Pat, you can’t be serious.

RockyRoad
Reply to  Pat Frank
September 19, 2019 10:29 pm

Alex,
Calling China “capitalist”is like calling the Democrat Party a bunch of Classical Liberals!
Nothing could be further from the truth!
And you realize google has a huge vested interest in painting a rosy, even distorted picture of China because of their business dealings there! Google literally kowtows to China even to the point of blatantly lying, but that seems to be the new norm, or should we say post norm?
True, I don’t use google for that reason but I lived in Hong Kong for two years, which is probably two years longer than you lived there! And that gives me introspection you are compketely lacking for I’ve seen the situation up close and personal!
China was failing big time until the communist leadership realized the only way they could compete with the West was to borrow capitalism and steal their technology! They learned they could blackmail practically every company they allowed in and sent out more industrial espionage agents than the rest of the world combined, especially to the US!
The best term for what China is doing is Crony Capitalism– the marriage of communism and capitalism! The problem is, capitalism has simply become another weapon China uses to advance world domination for their iron-fisted ruling party!

Alex
Reply to  Pat Frank
September 19, 2019 11:26 pm

RockyRoad
Sorry to disappoint, I lived in mainland China for 14 years.
Peoples comprehension skills are atrocious these days. Perhaps people only see what they want to see and not what was actually said.
My comment said to google the word ‘capitalism’. I did not suggest googling about the economy or the political system of China. Capitalism is about increasing personal wealth.
I will not discuss the Hong Kong situation because I haven’t experienced it. Unlike others, I don’t discuss things I don’t know about. I do have opinions about the Hong Kong situation based on my understanding of Chinese people and Chinese culture. If you ask for my opinion, then I will respond.

Reply to  Pat Frank
September 20, 2019 3:54 am

Pat, with all due respect one needs to apply your very own uncertainty propogation to resolve the question, as Steve Bannon’s China Model is wildly unusable for any real world prediction.
China elevated 800 million out of poverty in 10 years, has less poor than the US for a population 4 times larger. It has a Glass-Steagall Banking system – guess where they got that? And as the previous premier already said they use FDR’s methods, China style.

As regards the potties in the US and EU, see how they fall, and ogle the HK anarchists in DC and Berlin.

Trump dumped Bannon for this kind of China modeling soon after dumping Paris. The US must get onboard with the Belt and Road Initiative, join with Russia, India, the big 4, and put the doomed finance casino, right now about to blow sky high, out of its misery. Dumping the G7 for a G4 and a New Bretton Woods is the best way.

Matthew Schilling
Reply to  Pat Frank
September 20, 2019 5:57 am

Pat is exactly right. COMMUNIST China is a tyrannical, fascist state.

They browbeat not only their subjects, but anyone anywhere they can that dares stand up to them. Their economy is totally dominated and manipulated by the brazen mafia.

It’s just awful that anyone with an IQ over room temperature would carry water for them.

MarkW
Reply to  Pat Frank
September 20, 2019 7:10 am

The number of poor in the US is defined as a fraction of the median income. No matter how wealthy the US gets, the fraction of people who are officially defined as poor will never change.

If you think that poverty is worse in the US than it is in China then you are hopelessly blinded by ideology.
Not that this wasn’t obvious already.

Matthew Schilling
Reply to  Pat Frank
September 20, 2019 8:30 am

Alex: “I lived in mainland China for 14 years.”

Again, many people have lived in NYC for more than 14 years who have never been to the Empire State Building. Similarly, while in COMMUNIST China, you didn’t spend any time among the million Uighurs in concentration camps. Nor did you get arrested and beaten for exercising in a park.

BTW what’s your social score in COMMUNIST China? Asking for a friend!

jdgalt
Reply to  Pat Frank
September 20, 2019 10:05 am

+1,000,000 to what Pat said.

China, like Russia, only allows (some of) its citizens to accumulate wealth in order to keep the masses toeing the party line under threat of taking it away.

Alex
Reply to  Juan Slayton
September 20, 2019 3:03 am

Thanks Schitzree ,
I have been duly chastened. I shall remember not to pee into the wind because it will only blow back on me. I’m rather disappointed that you think my ‘insults’ are random, I did put some thought into crafting them. I felt that I was responding appropriately.
‘low paid propagandist’? I would have you know that I am being paid zillions of dollars for my propaganda. The money comes from Big Oil.

John Dilks
Reply to  Alex
September 20, 2019 5:21 am

Alex,
Your insults are unnecessary and counter-productive. Stop wasting your time with them.

MarkW
Reply to  Alex
September 20, 2019 7:12 am

Propagandists do get frustrated when they aren’t having any affect.

Bryan A
Reply to  Alex
September 19, 2019 10:54 pm

China is a Crapitalist Country, have you seen the cr@p they produce and sell the the rest of the world? Toxics in almost everything from jewelry to toys and solar panels that last 5 years.

Reply to  Alex
September 19, 2019 11:11 pm

It’s capatilistic in some ways, but it is run by the communist party. All decisions are made by the government. It is not a free country.

ghalfrunt
Reply to  mario lento
September 20, 2019 2:27 am

So a free democracy means that Trump can Revoke California’s Authority to Set Stricter Auto Emissions Rules.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/17/climate/trump-california-emissions-waiver.html

Sounds like a dictatorship to me.

John Dilks
Reply to  ghalfrunt
September 20, 2019 5:24 am

ghalfrunt,
California should never have been given that special status. It caused problems for every other state. He followed the law when he had that status revoked.

MarkW
Reply to  ghalfrunt
September 20, 2019 7:13 am

ghalfrunt, what government gives, government can take away.

JEHILL
Reply to  ghalfrunt
September 20, 2019 7:14 am

Not a constitutional lawyer perhaps one of them can chime in here…

This either falls under Article 1 section 9 or 10 or the 14th Amendment. Equal application of the law seem to me to be the one. I am not resident of California so thier laws should not effect me.

For too long the country has allowed California’s stupidity and hubris to do get harm to rest of the country.

Juan Slayton
Reply to  ghalfrunt
September 20, 2019 8:21 am

John Dilks: California should never have been given that special status. It caused problems for every other state.

It caused problems for Californians, too. Some years ago my late mother thought to help us by giving us a new car. Unfortunately she lived in Arizona and bought the car from an AZ dealership. Trouble came when we tried to register it in California. As I remember, we had to drive it hundreds of miles out of state before we could then bring it back in and register it as a new car. My fellow Californians should support President Trump on this issue, whatever they think about other issues.

ghalfrunt
Reply to  ghalfrunt
September 21, 2019 8:32 am

John Dilks September 20, 2019 at 5:24 am
ghalfrunt,
California should never have been given that special status. It caused problems for every other state. He followed the law when he had that status revoked.
———————-
rather like AGW and pollution
the stupidity that allows polluters a free pass affects the globe not just the stupid

Reply to  ghalfrunt
September 22, 2019 8:44 am

ghalfrunt: The Constitution enumerates powers of the Federal government as being supreme. The states take the rest. The tension between them can be settled by the Judicial branch. It’s not perfect, but tell me what form of government is better?

Jeremiah Puckett
Reply to  ghalfrunt
September 22, 2019 11:53 am

You have it backwards. A “free democracy” allows the car manufacturers go beyond the Fed’s standards. California’s mandate for stricter rules is the dictatorship, because that forces the manufacturers to go beyond the Fed’s standards, which affects the markets across the other 49 states

JEHILL
Reply to  Alex
September 19, 2019 11:32 pm

All businesses are own by the government. Every board of directors no matter the country of origin has a government official on the board. There no private ownership.

That is not capitalism. Hell the western countries in a very technical sense do not have capitalism either. If a country has a central bank then it is government controlled economy.

Alex
Reply to  JEHILL
September 19, 2019 11:52 pm

Wow! The closest thing to a sane comment this thread.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Alex
September 19, 2019 11:43 pm

State Sponsored Capitalism isn’t Free Enterprise Capitalism! They may be exporting “capitalism” to Africa, but for no other reason than to exert influence, manipulation, & control over individual states! As I was growing up, I used to listen to so many people going on about how awful America was because it wouldn’t “redistribute” (they didn’t call it that back then) it’s wealth to African countries, simply because they were run on primitive tribal principles whose leaders spent vast amounts of time running America down one way or the other!

Tony Anderson
Reply to  Alex
September 19, 2019 11:47 pm

Alex, do you have CCP connections?

Alex
Reply to  Tony Anderson
September 20, 2019 12:05 am

I met some. They are complete a-holes. I was extremely cautious with my communication with them. If I had my way I would string them up beside lawyers, bankers and priests.

RockyRoad
Reply to  Alex
September 20, 2019 3:06 am

So you would have lawyers, bankers, and priests executed?
Just for jollies or because you’re some extreme sado-masochistic freak that has absolutely no tolerance for jurisprudence, financial institutions, and religion??
Alex, I think that disqualifies every comment you’ve made or ever will make, and I’m gald you’re not my neighbor!

Alex
Reply to  Alex
September 20, 2019 3:26 am

You are obviously not well read. There is an old saying: ‘Come the revolution, we will hang the lawyers , bankers and priests’. I think it was Lenin or some commie of that ilk. The implication being that they were the root cause of evil in the world.
I thought it was particularly funny to add the CCP members to that list.
Lighten up Rocky.

OweninGA
Reply to  Alex
September 20, 2019 3:43 am

NOT EVEN CLOSE. Its economy is run on the mercantilist system. Still highly centrally controlled with some independent companies that are required to do what they are told. The fact that many companies can run under the radar doesn’t mean they won’t be redirected once they draw the attention of the wrong minister.

Of course the US isn’t strictly a capitalist society either. We tend toward a bureaucratic capture system where first we regulate an industry to death, then the industry fights back by sending insiders to work in the bureaucracy and design the regulations to keep competitors out of the marketplace.

Reply to  Robert Keon
September 20, 2019 4:36 am

Absolutely correct. The purpose of the U.N. from it’s inseption was to have a forum for international discourse to try to prevent wars and other disasters. That was the premise for it’s founding. The true purpose was to set the ground works for establishing a one world government. Former U.N. officials have stated that the climate change hysteria is simply a vehicle to create a new more fair econnomic model i.e. redistribute the worlds wealth. Nothing the U.N. passes as a resolution is binding on any country that doesn’t sign on to it, and they cant actually enforce anything except sanctions.

Richard Patton
September 19, 2019 6:26 pm

+100

nw sage
September 19, 2019 6:27 pm

Perhaps the US should ‘De-platform’ the UN and tell them to hold their Climate Summit somewhere else – Bejing??. It really is too dangerous in NY with all the crime etc.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  nw sage
September 19, 2019 7:03 pm

Perhaps the south side of Chicago would be a nice place to put the UN.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Tom in Florida
September 19, 2019 7:37 pm

I vote for East St Louis… No, make that Gary Indiana.
Wait, if California wants to follow the climate accord, let them host the conference there.
They can get a feel for how the homeless will live due to their policy.

RayG
Reply to  Pop Piasa
September 19, 2019 10:22 pm

I recommend that U.N. headquarters and most U.N. agencies be moved to Nairobi, Benghazi, Lagos, Luanda and Kinshasa. Retired senior U.N. personnel should be required to live in these cities in order to receive their pension payments and said payments must be in the local currency. After all, we wouldn’t want to contaminate their moral principles by paying them in U.S. dollars.

lee
September 19, 2019 6:30 pm

Australia wants climate reparations now. 😛

September 19, 2019 6:38 pm

This is what climate politics looks like.

LdB
Reply to  Sunsettommy
September 19, 2019 9:00 pm

Yep those who really matter and you are expecting to hand over the buckets of cash they exclude … they really are that stupid.

MikeP
September 19, 2019 6:41 pm

Maybe just reduce UN funding to reflect our percentage of global GDP … It’s about time Europe, China, and India paid their share. .

Robin Beran
Reply to  MikeP
September 19, 2019 6:46 pm

Why would you pay any dues to belong to a club that maligns you and has no interest in your principles and continually works to subvert everything you do?

Paul Penrose
Reply to  Robin Beran
September 19, 2019 9:44 pm

Because if you don’t, they will call you names in their national newspapers. For some reason, a lot of people care about that. For the life of me, I can’t figure out why.

RockyRoad
Reply to  Paul Penrose
September 19, 2019 10:46 pm

Because those same national papers have brainwashed the masses into thinking only newspapers think! It is time we corrected that misconception!

MarkW
Reply to  Paul Penrose
September 20, 2019 7:15 am

I do believe they are already calling us names in their national newspapers.

Brian Valentine
September 19, 2019 6:46 pm

Tell those damn rent-seeking parasites they can go to hell.

For how many genocides did this stinking organization stand by and do absolutely nothing? Ask Guterres if his “climate” nonsense saved anybody’s life in the Congo, Nigeria, Rowanda, Uganda, Serbia …

Craig from Oz
September 19, 2019 6:48 pm

Should do? Or will do?

Should do? Pull out of the Paris Agreement, renounce the RET, sell the ABC, make Tony Abbott chief adviser and tell the UN that WE will control where the ‘UN Approved’ foreign aid gets directed.

Also have Marise Payne stage a 24/7/52 sit in protest outside the UN and hold her breath until she is blue in the face until our demands are met. Not because we actually have demands, but it keeps Payne in a place where she can’t do any damaged for a nice long period of time.

What we will do? Beg forgiveness, say 20 Hail Gretas and black out large parts of Victoria. Also retain Payne as Foreign Minister.

Seriously, grow a pair, Scott!

Dr. Deanster
Reply to  Craig from Oz
September 19, 2019 7:06 pm

Yep … should do and do are two different things ….. buuuuuuuttttttt …..

There is this Orange Guy that all of them love to hate … because he has a habit of “doing”. Don’t be surprised.

Hasbeen
Reply to  Craig from Oz
September 19, 2019 7:57 pm

The old cry of no taxation without representation comes to mind, with just a little change.

No contribution without representation, although I can’t imagine why we would want to be part of such a disgusting organisation.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Craig from Oz
September 19, 2019 11:50 pm

When you say “black out” large parts of Victoria, you don’t mean in a Candadian Prime Minister sort of way, do you?

Richard of NZ
Reply to  Alan the Brit
September 20, 2019 4:00 am

Wrong Victoria?

commieBob
September 19, 2019 7:05 pm

My guess is that President Trump doesn’t give two hoots. On the other hand, he can be vengeful and devious. Let’s see … was Jeffrey Epstein prosecuted so that Prince Andrew would be exposed as a pervert? Did the Queen put out a hit on Epstein? OMG, it reminds me of Tito and Stalin putting out hits on each other. BTW, Tito won. 😉

Michael N.
Reply to  commieBob
September 19, 2019 9:08 pm

Start by turning off the electricity to the U.N. next week. They shouldn’t complain as we are leasing by example. They wanted bold items on the platform.

RiHo08
September 19, 2019 7:05 pm

Whenever a person of high self-importance and irrelevance makes a public utterance espousing some deep and transformative notion, my tendency is to ignore it and go onto something else.

“How do you think the USA, Australia, South Africa and other nations should respond to this UN snub?”

This question asks for a response to an irrelevant question, made by some clueless bureaucrat employed by one of a myriad of acronym environmental groups whose issues are as scattered as the wind.

The is no response when one is left out of a conference agenda whose main topics is: why do you behave so badly? Value ladened. The response such disparate groups are looking for: “I stopped beating my wife yesterday.” Child-like behavior of an otherwise immature group of people possessed by their sense of self-importance; when, in fact, they are irrelevant; ie, meaningless. Their lives are utterly meaningless and glomps onto some cause out of desperation and loneliness. A sad situation. They need to go out camping together and commune with nature. Bring bug spray.

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  RiHo08
September 20, 2019 1:51 am

I’d like to know what authority members of the UN are prevented from participating in their events, by the decision of one person. Ideological possession can drive people to do bizarre things. Enforcement of ideology by “othering”, shunning, de-platforming and other undemocratic actions cannot be tolerated.

Can international body representing all of humanity accepts the exclusion of entire countries from a meeting or meetings of that body on the basis of a disagreement over some plan of action by the members? Such a decision can only be made by the General Assembly after debate and a vote.

Clearly the United Nations Organization needs an overhaul. It cannot prevent war (it’s main original purpose) and it is unrepresentative of humanity. Billions of people are under-represented and tiny nations hold powerful votes far beyond the population they represent.

De-platforming some rich countries and not others on the basis of the ideology of one person, or one committee is patently unjust. If they go through with this plan, the UN will be confirming the worst fears of the anti-globalism nutters who claim that all international cooperation is evil.

Modern society demands coordinated political bodies operating at the international level and they have to be representative. The UN isn’t. Let’s turn at least part of the conversation towards describing what should happen, not only what should not. We need UN2.0.

September 19, 2019 7:09 pm

This from the man that described the destruction from hurricane Dorian…..systematic!

Patrick MJD
September 19, 2019 7:09 pm

Yeah, the kids are definitely influencing the UN. You can’t come to our party ‘coz you are dirty, so there!

September 19, 2019 7:14 pm

Australia takes it as a Badge of Honour to be de-platformed from the UN’s New York Climate Summit. We have our coal-fired power plants to thank for that and for keeping our lights on during the hours of darkness and wind stillness.

LdB
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
September 19, 2019 8:49 pm

Actually the Australian PM is in USA but had already said he wouldn’t be attending the UN meeting indicating how much he cares about it.

Craig from Oz
Reply to  LdB
September 19, 2019 11:25 pm

Unfortunately Marise Payne has been sent instead.

Payne was a political nobody with no achievements to her career who had long standing ties to pre-political Malcolm Turnbull. Turnbull then managed to convert her from someone who has politically done nothing into someone who has politically done nothing but with more impressive job titles.

My only guess is that Morrison once let slip where he buried the bodies from his awkward years experimenting with cannibalism (don’t judge, we have all been there) because without blackmail material there is no sound reason why a total under achiever like Payne should have ever been given a position of authority.

Payne will probably personally thank the UN for pointing out the sins of our nation and say 30 Hail Gretas as penance. I mean she should formally state that Australia no longer recognises that forum as being valid and take the entire Australian delegation out for a Kevin Rudd style strip club bender before announcing spiteful new coal trade deal with India…. but wont.

Sigh.

JEHILL
September 19, 2019 7:15 pm

We should actually ask the UN pull-out of the USA’s backside otherwise its rape with no social justice.

Frederick Michael
September 19, 2019 7:20 pm

Do we even want to speak there?

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Frederick Michael
September 19, 2019 7:43 pm

Frederick Michael
I think that the UN is afraid of what dissenting countries might say and influence the others. Just like The Conversation banning those they disagree with. It’s beginning to look like the alarmists are running scared.

michael hart
September 19, 2019 7:31 pm

lol
They exclude the US, Japan, Australia, Brazil and Saudi Arabia?

So that’s most of the people who matter and pay their wages. And China, India, Russia etc simply don’t give a flying f what they think, say, or do. They can’t even be bothered to get themselves excluded from this club nobody want’s to be a member of.

Imagine saying something very rude to your supervisor while his boss and the owners of the company were also in the room. Not very smart.

It’s the sign of a ship which is not only holed below the water line, but is passing below the waves as we watch.

LdB
Reply to  michael hart
September 19, 2019 8:52 pm

It has become basically an EU quango and party which does not go well for how it all plays out 🙂

markl
September 19, 2019 7:40 pm

The US needs to step away from the UN. The reasons are obvious but the sentiment is not. Time will take care of this anomaly and it can’t be too soon.

Clarky of Oz
September 19, 2019 7:50 pm

Bye bye UN

Lil Fella from OZ
September 19, 2019 7:53 pm

And where is it going to held?

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Lil Fella from OZ
September 20, 2019 5:57 am

Where? Why, in Hell, of course. Hell, Michigan that is. Then they can all just go to Hell!

September 19, 2019 8:10 pm

I think Trump will respond to this in a way that wont make the UN happy. He doesnt put up with this sort of thing. This is a magnificent opportunity. Maybe backwater the UN entirely and form a new body for discussing disputes between nations that doesnt have all the other intrusive functions of the UN.

The UN is an Anti-American organization and has always been one. Defund it and let it fall apart.

Rob
September 19, 2019 8:23 pm

Trump should get the US out of the UN, and kick the UN out of the US.

Walt D.
September 19, 2019 8:39 pm

Greta Thunberg has the answer.
Do not allow any of the attendees to arrive on a plane or a fossil fuel powered boat.
Once here, they should either ride a bicycle or walk.

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