According to The Conversation, the reason people get angry at the high tax job destroying policies advocated by female green leaders is because we are expressing our toxic masculinity.
Green with rage: Women climate change leaders face online attacks
September 13, 2019 6.44am AEST
Tracey Raney Associate Professor of Politics and Public Administration, Ryerson University
Mackenzie Gregory Master’s Student, Ryerson University…
Catherine McKenna, Canada’s environment and climate change minister, recently announced that she’s had to hire security to protect herself and her family while in public. With an election now on, it’s likely she’ll face further abuse in the weeks to come.
McKenna hired security after she was out with her children and a driver rolled down his window and shouted: “F-k you, Climate Barbie.” This sexist taunt was popularized by Conservative MP Gerry Ritz, who once used the slur in reference to McKenna on Twitter.
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Maxime Bernier, leader of the Peoples’ Party of Canada, recently tweeted at 16-year-old activist Greta Thunberg, calling her:
“…clearly mentally unstable. Not only autistic, but obsessive-compulsive, eating disorder, depression and lethargy, and she lives in a constant state of fear.”
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Following the proposal of the New Green Deal by U.S. congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, critics attacked her intelligence and her personal and professional background. National Review writer Charles Cooke referred to her as an “unmarried, childless bartender” who “somehow has the temerity to fancy herself a congressional representative.” He claimed the New Green Deal she supports is:
“ …an untrammeled Dear Santa letter without form, purpose, borders, or basis in reality.”…
Misogyny at work
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Climate denialism has also been linked to traditional assumptions of masculinity. Research shows that climate deniers are more likely to adhere to older forms of industrial modern masculinity that helped to push society towards “industrialization, mechanism and capitalism.”
Accordingly, some climate deniers prefer this older form of masculinity over a newer “eco-modern masculinity” of care and compassion for the environment.
A 2019 study found that some men will avoid certain environmental actions, such as recycling or using reusable shopping bags, in order to maintain “an outward-facing heterosexual identity.”
These versions of heterosexual masculinity appear to be predicated upon the domination and exploitation, rather than the preservation, of the environment.
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Read more: https://theconversation.com/green-with-rage-women-climate-change-leaders-face-online-attacks-123155
I’m personally disgusted at efforts by climate activists to shut down criticism by accusing their critics of being racists or misogynists.
I do not support whoever allegedly yelled “f-k you climate barbie” at Catherine McKenna in the middle of the street, making someone feel personally unsafe should never be an acceptable part of democratic political discourse.
But the fact is climate activists legitimately deserve criticism. They want us to spend billions, maybe trillions of dollars on their wild ideas, and they want to seize control of untold trillions of dollars worth of assets which don’t belong to them, based on the flimsiest of evidence.
Climate activists suggesting their opponents have bad motives is a transparent and shameless attempt to silence legitimate criticism of their outrageously awful policy ideas.
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Eric
“I do not support whoever allegedly yelled “f-k you climate barbie” at Catherine McKenna in the middle of the street, making someone feel personally unsafe should never be an acceptable part of democratic political discourse.”
It’s only ok when they do it ! (and suggest to others to also do it.)
Great post….
McKenna is taking thousands of dollars a year out of that mans pocket because of her BS. He has every right to insult her where ever he wants.
That is not civility.
We have a government, with its policies and processes.
We don’t decide how we govern by terrorizing those who are duly elected or appointed.
Here in the USA, and likewise in Canada.
To fall from civilization, follow this logic: once I define any opponent or opposition as immoral, I should feel free to use any means against them to thwart them, since they have gone beyond the bounds of reason, as judged by me.
This is the uncivilized strategy used by The Progs when they declare things such as: “climate wilding is not a matter of politics; it is an existential threat, and we must supersede all political process to save ourselves.”
This is how the Progs incite people to violence. This is how Mob Rules is coming to a city near you.
This is also how some small factions of the pro-life movement found it OK to kill an abortionist or two.
When you go down this path, there is no end except: the Strongest Wins.
If you want that, then carry on as a terrorist.
Civility includes a great measure of tolerance and patience.
Sorry if you are intolerant or impatient.
Inane sophistry, from someone who claims to be the last of a party that uses demonization as their first weapon of public policy.
Or simple Misandry
TLD, I agree with most of your point but disagree that telling someone, who is actively wielding centralized power in a way that adversely alters your quality of life, to go get f-ked, is an act of terror.
The Left want us to believe that words can hurt us and use the premise to silence discussion and debate. The foul mouthed person the article refers to is a boorish lout who might well be a mouth breathing, knuckle dragging, troglodyte but he is not a terrorist What i detest the most about this highway of double standards the leftists have us traveling on is this ideological litmus test that determines whether something is bad or a non-issue
First they want us to believe that it is a greater crime to offend someone with words than to physically assault them.
Second they travel exclusively on one-way highways. Where it is okay to offend certain groups but not the protected classes.
For instance it is “Terrorism” to yell an obscenity at a left-wing political figure but “Speaking Truth to Power” for a leftist mop to accost a right-wing political figure.
I can harass, verbally abuse, and hound a White House Press Secretary out of a restaurant and down the street for no other reason than I just don’t like her or that she is a conservative but don’t you dare tell a leftist environmental minister, who is using the force of government to dip into your discretionary income, to go f- k herself.
Civility has to be a two way street and the left is the stick in that spoke.
Appeasement only makes it worse. They want war and can only be stopped if they fear us enough.
Soft healers make stinking wounds.
+1 Well put. Someday we’ll learn to fight back against these minority interests that attempt to control us to their standards.
“suggesting their opponents have bad motives is a transparent and shameless attempt to silence”
Sure Eric. You’ve devised this piece to illicit as much bile, gnashing of teeth and allegation of bad motives as possible. Hopefully a little misogyny as an added bonus. Naked, hypocritical dog-whistling.
As far as I can tell the research https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs11199-019-01061-9?_ga=2.56717226.1407420975.1565018121-427508109.1565018121
is accurate and revealing about this claque of older, conservative, white males afraid of the future.
Not in the least bit surprising, since your one of them.
I have no patience for the insane far-left field mice like AOC and Greta. Both should go home and crawl back into their rat-holes. Stop bothering people.
Loydo – you are clearly an uneducated dolt, who chants leftist mantras rather than engaging in intelligent thought.
BTW Loydo, the correct spelling for the contraction of “you are” is “you’re”, not “your”.
This is just the beginning of your education Loydo – you have a long way to go before you can speak intelligently to this company.
The left does not hesitate to use physical force against conservatives. The answer to this situation is to start returning the favor. Their favorite weapon is the gang, Antifa. We need an anti-Antifa “gang” that can “bust-up” the vermin. As of now, they are getting a free ride, as the police refuse to act.
Lloyd, Every time you comment you reveal more of your ignorance.
Illicit: adjective: forbidden by law, rules, or custom.
Elicit: verb: evoke or draw out (a response, answer, or fact) from someone in reaction to one’s own actions or questions.
Here boy, good dog. Roll over.
‘Sure Eric. You’ve devised this piece to illicit as much bile, gnashing of teeth and allegation of bad motives as possible. Hopefully a little misogyny as an added bonus. Naked, hypocritical dog-whistling. ‘
Actually Loydo, you’ve outlined your methods and projected them – again. All with the appropriate by-rote stereotyping – so, were you cloned from a stain of Goebbels mattress or what?
‘claque of older, conservative, white males afraid of the future. Not in the least bit surprising, since your one of them.’
I see Loydo’s come out as openly racist – and quite proudly too.
You really are a caricature aren’t you? About half-a-dozen different kinds of bigot.
Spot on.
Here in Indianapolis our delusional, leftist mayor, Joe Hogsett, has embraced every whacko Progressive idea possible. He has decided that cars, and their drivers, are the enemy of the people and begun to transform the city into some Eco-Marxist “paradise”.
I was travelling the neglected streets of our city when I saw him being interviewed by a pliant media outlet, no doubt praising his valient efforts to transform our city into a carbon neutral, people’s republic.
His dereliction of civic duty has earned the name “Pot Hole Joe”.
So I yelled, “Hey Pot Hole Joe! Fix the goddamn roads!”
I don’t feel at all guilty about it nor should the person who yelled “F*** you climate Barbie!”
Agreed. I wholeheartedly support the man.
I rate the chances of this having actually happened as falling somewhere between pigs flying and Bernie Sanders proposing a tax cut.
A Russian born violinist by the name of Jascha Heifetz once said: “No matter what side of an argument you are on, you always find some people on your side that you wish were on the other side.”
I wish the car yelling jackwad was on the left of this Climate Hoax. But just because there are jerks skeptical of man’s role in climate change doesn’t make the faith based religion we have come to know as CAGW righteous or real.
I completely disagree.
Attacking politicians in their personal life should be treated as a serious crime.
It is not protesting, it is fascism. Using force to frighten and intimate.
Attacking politicians in their personal life is a left tactic, in the US. It is wrong and not effective.
Now calling McKenna a climate barbie in a forum, is not hateful it is just plain talking to make a point.
McKenna is a blond lady who is pushing policies that will accomplish nothing except waste money, increase the Canadian debt, reduce exports, and so on.
I respectfully disagree. For example, when a politician attacks my personal life, I believe I have a right to retaliate in kind. A politician for example, who seeks to destroy my livelihood or take my freedom, for using the “wrong” pronoun to a hairy male or flabby female. Who imprisons me on ridiculous charges, for showing my fellow countrymen just who is gang raping their underage daughters. Who seeks to have me banned from all discourse, for stating that even “affirmative action” cannot make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.
It was the Left that adopted the creed that the political is personal. I say we fight fire with fire.
Very sad the argument put forward by climate clowns. A shiftimg sands rhetoric that can’t be mailed down. The age of misinformation is here and headed up by emotive feminism….very sad.
“[M]aking someone feel personally unsafe should never be an acceptable part of democratic political discourse.”
Whut? Are you serious? What is this – the 19th century? Where have you been the last decade – under a bridge? In a van down by the river?
Ever hear of ANTIFA? They’re the enforcement arm of the Democrat party. Obama famously said of his political opponents, “they bring a knife, we bring a gun.” Obama also chastised his supporters to “get in the faces” of Republicans and others who embrace reality.
Leftists have been spoiling for a fight since the French Revolution. Violence is all they understand. You can’t talk your way out of this. Submit or fight. Those are your options.
Hi Eric,
Climate Barbie and Climate Ken lie about everything, like their leftist fellow-travellers, aka Lenin’s “useful idiots”.
Who says this actually happened? Where is the video? Are you actually going to believe Climate Barbie? This may just be another leftist lie – a publicity stunt, to get votes from the usual warmist imbeciles.
And how is the hiring of (unarmed?) private security going to safeguard her from further verbal harassment? Will she hire someone with a loud voice who can shout back even louder?
This is Canada, remember, with an unarmed populace, except for the criminals and the cops. Shouting is our only weapon, and poor Barbie is so sensitive. When someone shouts she feels unsafe – she needs her safe space. Maybe her security guard will carry a soundproof tent – or a boom box playing Barry White.
In the meantime, Barbie’s odious ilk, the radical greens, have killed tens or hundreds of millions of innocents, mostly children, with their horrific, destructive policies to “Save the Planet”. Their motto is incomplete: it should be “Save the Planet – Kill the Children!”
HYPOTHESIS: RADICAL GREENS ARE THE GREAT KILLERS OF OUR AGE
By Allan M.R. MacRae, B.A.Sc., M.Eng., April 14, 2019
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/04/14/hypothesis-radical-greens-are-the-great-killers-of-our-age/
Best personal regards, Allan
One thing which should be understood is that Barbie is slang in French, which translates into English as Dumb Blonde. doubt that anyone actually yelled “f-k you” but I have no doubt she was called a Barbie. From her photograph it fits to a tee. I
As I finished reading the “conversation” I wondered whether it was written by a quackademic?
Why yes it was and also a quackademic to be?
Are you equally disgusted when Climate Barbie, et al., accuse their opponents of being killers of children and grandchildren?
There is no evidence to support that Climate Change Questioners are killers of children or grandchildren. None, nada, nothing. You know, historical documented climate change as opposed to computer modelling.
The kind of radical and unsupported policies the climate change proponents are proposing are not dissimilar to Communism which has been proven time and time again to ruin economies and most adversely affect the least well off in our societies. And seriously, Greta Thunberg has very well documented medical conditions. Is she bright, sure. Does her message make sense. Not really. Is it emotional. Yes. Is that how good decision making is done. No.
Give us EVIDENCE.
Are we sure the alleged “Climate Barbie” incident actually occurred. It’s awfully convenient. The left has a long history of fabricating thuggery when it suits.
Adam
Just like this story:
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/furey-hijab-hoax-girl-family-owe-canadians-an-apology
I have no doubt it happened. This is the land of bears, bitching, beer and backbacon, after all.
Unfortunately for her, the mischaracterization fits so well, it is unforgettable. Her ignorant proposals advanced in the name of “saving the planet” are impossible to implement.
But why is the insult “misogynist”? She’s a woman. Is every claim that some male exhibits “toxic masculinity” misanthropist? Even using the word “toxic” in reference to a male is a misanthropic remark, I suppose.
Objecting to misanthropy is not misogynistic. She should ponder what a Climate Barbie represents and typifies, and stop hiding behind the concept of gender. Were Elizabeth May (Green Party leader) a male, calling him Climate Ken would be appropriate.
Climate Barbie and Climate Ken are the cookie-cutter cartoon characters of Climate Alarm, lampoons of real scientists, available off the shelf from Mattel Corporation, complete with recyclable plastic wrapping.
Here in the US, every single allegation of a public hate crime has been found to be a hoax, most commonly by the person who reports the story.
Very often it is a complete fantasy, although a few have been found to be instances of one or more leftists starting a fight and then later morphing into an unprovoked attack on THEM.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/03/bogus-hate-crimes-trump-conservatives/
http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/
https://dailycaller.com/2019/02/18/hoax-hate-crimes-list/
https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/02/19/19-hate-crimes-in-trump-era-that-were-hoaxes-complicated/
So far there are zero instances of these types of stories being verified, and literally hundreds of nearly identical made up ones…some quite egregious, involving hugely expensive vandalism, accusations that got someone arrested, etc.
Many hoaxes never make it in the msm, like this one
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/gwinnett-county/man-accused-of-destroying-his-own-business-in-fake-hate-crime/985998170
Anytime you see MAGA as part of the hate crime, you can expect it to be a hoax.
The big tell is that this is not how conservatives behave.
It is how leftists behave, and so when they make some crap up, it sounds like the kind of BS they are involved in every day.
Global Warming Is Now A ‘Women ’s Issue’ Due To ‘Ecofeminism
Environmentalists are increasingly claiming that global warming is a “women’s issue” and that the world needs “eco-feminism” as a path forward.
snip
Ecofeminists believe that women and nature are bonded by traditionally “feminine” values and their shared history of oppression by a patriarchal Western society. This patriarchal society is built on four intersectional pillars of sexism, racism, class exploitation, and environmental destruction.
http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/global-warming-is-now-a-womens-issue-due-to-ecofeminism/
This will become a real woman’s issue;
Crispin wrote:
“I have no doubt it happened. This is the land of bears, bitching, beer and backbacon, after all.”
That’s your evidence? Crispin, you are a scientist, and apparently a good one. That is not even evidence, it is thin gruel indeed – not at all credible!
BTW, “Climate Ken” is Justin Trudeau, forever being “whipped” by Climate Barbie.
Not really as I’m not the one blowing them up in class or dropping poley bears on them off skyscrapers. Have they caught them yet?
Yes, actually. I am. However, two wrongs do not make a right, and being rude never convinces anyone (aside from, it seems, Trump, but that man’s persuasion doesn’t seem to follow normal laws of reality).
Call her a liar, a fool, a fraud, or even a lunatic. However, childish insults don’t do anything. There is no reason to ever call a woman a “Barbie” unless her name is actually “Barbara”
I think calling someone Barbie or Pinocchio is appropriate as they are well known cultural characters. Doesn’t the Washington Post rate articles’ truthfulness in “Pinocchios”?
Using the metric of “Barbies” could serve some other purpose, or is it OK to use male icons but not female ones? What happened to gender equality ?
How ’bout THIS bumper sticker, applicable to all genders:
“BE LESS STUPID.”
“or is it OK to use male icons but not female ones? What happened to gender equality ?”
Male and female are sexes, not genders.
Hillarious
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6084373004001/?playlist_id=4249245556001#sp=show-clips
Greg Gutfeld-“Sep. 07, 2019 – 6:05 – Climate activist celebrities and business leaders are facing backlash after arriving at Google Camp in Italy in private jets and yachts.”
“climate deniers are more likely to adhere to older forms of industrial modern masculinity that helped to push society towards “industrialization, mechanism and capitalism.
“Accordingly, some climate deniers prefer this older form of masculinity over a newer “eco-modern masculinity” of care and compassion for the environment. ”
In other words, the alpha version of masculinity that built the country versus the fairy cupcake version that’s now dismantling it before our very eyes.
So, Scute, you think have identified why CNN’s Anderson Cooper and Don Lemon don’t make comments critical of Greta? I’m wondering what one has to do to achieve “eco-modern masculinity”? Don’t think I am going there.
I don’t think Cooper or Lemon are anyone’s idea of ‘masculine’.
Joel S, ………. “girly-men” …….. is the word you are looking for.
Yeah, but I don’t quote ‘Ahh-nold’ anymore.
Forget the Alpha male, even the Beta’s aren’t neutered enough to satisfy the modern ‘gender’ obsessed Left. We will soon have Gamma, Delta and Epsilon males.
And Oh, what a Brave New World it will be, to have such people in.
~¿~
Can polygamy be far behind?
Women will insist on it.
It happens everywhere there are far too few men to go around over a long enough period of time.
And who exactly is denying climate changes ? Those on the global warming bandwagon.
Is it okay if skeptics make fun of male climate cult members?
No, you can’t make fun of male alarmists, either. Both male and female alarmists are very triggered by any criticism.
That is what makes it fun.
Pointless to make fun of the imperturbable.
Why don’t they take a look at how Judith Curry is treated, including by people like Michael Mann?
Getting death threats is an almost daily occurrence for many climate realists.
However, that’s never bad. It’s only when they start feeling “uncomfortable”, that a line has to be drawn.
The next great innovation of simple minded green libs will be AI and with no need for quantum computers. The argumentation is so simple a robot can do it while the logical and the fact checkers struggle on to counter it with the usual time lags. The combinations derived from using a key word list from social issues with some climate change terms and debate has ended labels and assurances means you can get tenure and promotions while letting the algorithm do the bomb throwing and publication submission. Get rich at the beach while the AI engine runs in the background on such combinatorials as rising seas and people of color and wealth disparity.
She can actually see CO2 all around herself, thus she is right, and CO2 is bad because a 16 year old person can see it blocking the suns heat. We should all stop doing anything which involves fossil fuels.. No new construction, no food transportation, no clothes, no Electric vehicles, as they use a bucket load of plastic for its panels, dash, and interior, not forgetting the tires and miles of plastic insulation… Even the batteries are covered in plastic. Oh and bernie said we need new light bulbs to save the climate, doesn’t each light blub have a plastic housing???
yeah the led bulbs use FAR more manmade plastic phenolics for the circuit board or the newer whatever? the circuity etc
but
theyre so greeeeen u know.
as for Greta well last time I looked iIwas female;-) and she gives me the utter irrits and I would yell FU to her and climate Barbie quite happily and I could think of a fair bit more less kindly to add to that
and the conversation is soyboy central so it figures;-)
Don’t forget to stop breathing.
Take plastic out of agriculture and see how much food we can grow.
No fancy sailing boats.
Maxime Bernier is correct. Greta has been brainwashed and her parents should feel deeply ashamed. Of course, I’m sure that a conversation with her parents would reveal that they’re “deep green religionists” and are convinced of their righteous cause. How sad.
Nordic Thanks might be brainwashed, but I am pretty sure she was the one first running around buying soap.
From the article: “Climate activists suggesting their opponents have bad motives is a transparent and shameless attempt to silence legitimate criticism of their outrageously awful policy ideas.”
That’s exactly what it is, a means to shut down the debate.
From the article: “I do not support whoever allegedly yelled “f-k you climate barbie” at Catherine McKenna in the middle of the street”
Assuming that actually happened.
Did Ms McKenna have her window rolled down at the time, or did she just read the person’s lips?
That is about the 10th time someone has posted the above, …. so I guess its up to me to explain “the problem”.
Actually, for Catherine McKenna to be bitching and complaining about someone yelling at her …. “f-k you climate Barbie” , ….. it is obvious that Catherine didn’t like the looks of or the gender of the person in question, …. therefore she exercised her legal Right to claim ….. Sexual Harassment, ….. a prosecutable act that garners tons of sympathy from avid feminists and girly-men.
But now iffen Catherine had liked the looks of or the gender of the person in question, ….. she would probably have acknowledged said comment with a “wink”, a “smile” or a “nod n’ twitch” …… and never reported it as ever happening. Except maybe to her best friend.
I think you mean “sex” not “gender”.
I’m “old school”, ……. gender is specific, …… sex can mean several things.
The left knows they can’t win a debate (any debate), so instead they seek to shut down debate, and criticism in general.
And change the subject to conflate and push the sexist-narrative. Isn’t it interesting how all their lyrics go to the same tunes?
During his first presidential run, Obama instructed his followers to actively confront those who disagree with Obama.
It really is funny how liberals melt when confronted by the same tactics they use on others.
While at the same time having created a street-thug organization called ANTIFA that will ambush and attack anyone they perceive as being in political opposition – with the blessing of blue-city leaders- AND while claiming their battling ‘hatred’.
Any historical parallels there?
Dang. They got me pegged. I don’t recycle (it’s stupid and ineffective 95% of the time), and I demand plastic disposable bags for my groceries (they are cheap, and I get lots of other uses out of them). So sue me.
Reusable grocery bags are a very bad idea. Something over 80% of grocery bags in California were found to have fecal material on and/or in resuable bags.
Then, there are the chemicals, water, and energy needed to keep the bags clean, if one bothers to do so.
Ummmm, in California, the STREETS are covered in “fecal material ” ! D’OH !
That ain’t fecal material, it’s (whocutthe) Cheese
Well now, Charley Higley, ….. would you prefer all that human feces be excreted directly on the sidewalks, rather than in grocery bags, so that you can “track” it into stores, cars, buses, etc.? Or maybe you would prefer “slipin n’ slidin” on it.
And ps, I don’t think those plastic bags are “reusable” after someone takes a crap in one. At least not by me.
When I was in college, collecting and selling aluminum cans kept me in soda money.
I agree that everyone should stop calling her Climate Barbie.
Climate Betsy Wetsy is far more apropos.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/273940649916
Plus, Barbie is an attractive successful young adult….McKenna CLEARLY is none of these…
So, lets stop insulting Barbie!
Some high school friends and I used one of those as a prop for a group book report presented as a skit. Without telling the guy tasked with holding the doll during the presentation, we filled it with water, and then gave it to him when it was his turn to talk. No one in the class, not even the teacher, could stop laughing when it started wetting on him as he was talking. Except him. He was tripping hard on acid; toasted. His astonished reaction was priceless.
Ah, the good old days!!
Nicholas…
EVERYONE doesn’t call her Climate Barbie.
I don’t for one. That doesn’t mean I don’t have to restrain myself every time I hear her speak.
Last night it was ‘I have NO TIME for anyone who …’ insert here ‘doesn’t believe there his a climate emergency” or any other dangerous climatist meme. So one of my federal cabinet’s senior ministers has NO TIME for anyone who doesn’t adhere to the dogma. This is my objection to her representing me in government. She needs to have time and an open mind. She states that she doesn’t and implies that anyone who would have time and an open mind is, essentially, a DEPLORABLE.
She isn’t an idiot at all and in fact most anyone would be proud to be able to match her career accomplishments. However, those accomplishments do not include learning any foundational science or mathematics.
International legal social justice warrior seems to be more her speed. What else to expect from that bastion of lefty indoctrination.. London School of Economics.
The Climate Barbie moniker, however, is in the same category as DENIER and is equally inappropriate and disrespectful neither of which are helpful comments.
It appeared in the press that she has applied the phrase ‘gendered climate denier’ whatever that must mean. Equally inappropriate.
For the record, my true feelings on the subject, all joking aside, is that people who are hateful fools deserve all the scorn that one might wish to heap upon them.
They could have a Greta version of that doll with a speech box. As it pees all over you it could say “I want you to feel my fear”. There could even be a Stephan Rahmsdorf version that pees so much it causes sea level to rise several feet.
Greta Wetta
Wetta Greta is betta!
I laughed so hard, thanks for that.
Context:
“‘I don’t want you to be hopeful, I want you to panic. I want you to feel the fear I feel every day…” Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
https://www.theguardian.com/science/video/2019/jan/25/i-want-you-to-panic-16-year-old-greta-thunberg-issues-climate-warning-at-davos-video
There’s so much potential for Climate Patch Kids dolls.
There could be a Michael Mann version that looks like a Cabbage Patch Kid, with a voice sensor and motorized arms that whacks you with a hockey stick when you say “Show me your data”.
Or a Gavin Schmidt version that walks, and turns and runs away when you say, “Let’s debate”. Kind of like this:
‘Climate Barbie’ is my NICE name for Minister McKenna. If she insists on something different, I’m afraid it’s going to be ‘climate double dumb ass.’
The whole point of equality is that women, blacks, Jews, muslims, gays, transgenders etc are equally acountable for their actions and statements.
Criticising any of them for their opinions says nothing about their gender, sexuality, religion or race. It says something about their opinions.
My opinions on weather are based on having experienced quite a bit of weather, from blizzards to heatwaves, droughts to floods etc. They have nothing to do with my taste in women or my non-affiliation to organised religion.
If theoretically I were to tell Greta Thunberg or AOC that their statements were factually inaccurate, their pronouncements were not the most likely future outcomes or the like, I would be treating them as adult figures, irrespective of the fact that they are capable of gestating foetuses when I am not. I would likely say precisely the same to Owen Jones or some male BBC newsreader if they were blethering climate bollocks whilst coincidently holding socialist political views.
My experiences of political discourse tells me that I agree with some things almost everyone says but can also disagree profoundly on some issues with those I often agree with. I guess this shows my immaturity in refusing to join a tribe and mouth things conscientiously that I know to be wrong.
Now as it happens, I happen to not find Greta Thunberg my cup of tea in physical terms, whereas AOC is in female form IMHO an attractive specimen. As I am not homosexual, I do not have any desire to wrap my arms around Owen Jones in a gay bar either.
It so happens I am capable of addressing the GND pronouncements of AOC without calling her a childless bartender. Bartenders often learn more about human nature quickly than academic swots, as they deal with hundreds of different humans daily. They learn to handle rudeness, aggression, intolerance, sexist leering and much more. It might be a good idea to make all prospective Congressfolk and Senators work a bar for three months as a qualification in dealing with people….I learned more about human beings organising their holidays and serving them in a religious bookshop than I ever did at University…
After all, Michael Mann has been known to express inaccuracies in public and so has Mark Carney, the Governor of the Bank of England. AOC is not alone in that regard…
Toxic Masculinity is basically about being rude and obnoxious. It is frustration coming out in a thuggish immature preadolescent way. It does not make men superior talking like that, it means they do not have higher skills in winning arguments calmly.
However, most men are not like that and ambitious women should not imply they are. I have known some truly horrible women on this earth but most women are pleasant people. I do not go around implying all women are aggressive feminazis….even though a small percentage undoubtedly are.
As a public figure, AOC like every other public figure will realise they cannot please everyone all of the time. They are going to have disagreements, battles and spats.
They have a right to be treated courteously and with respect so long as they give the same back. Many might question whether AOC is being respectful if she tells 95% of people to cut out air travel if she does not lead by example….
The ultimate test for politicians is whether they can change their opinions when the facts change.
If they cannot, they do not seek to serve, they seek to acquire and maintain power.
When the latter becomes clear, respect for electors has been lost and hence respect for the public figure should no longer be a given…..
So…trying to find a dividing line between “toxic masculinity” and “toxic femininity” or just what do the word spinners think they are up to ?
Whatever has happened to Greta?
Since her landing in NY as far as I have seen she has gone off the radar.
Her brand of ridiculous nonsense does not play here the same as in places where the general public is easily duped and endlessly guilt-ridden.
She has her little crowd of sycophants, and no one else gives a rat’s tiny tuchus about another bedwetter.
“Please panic” is not a message people who have real concerns in life are receptive to.
Yeah, and when does she fly back to Sweden?
She won’t fly. Didn’t you hear how the yacht crew will be flying back over from Europe (after flying home having delivered her to your shores) to sail her back when she’s finished “educating” you Americans?
Some others are heading there : “Climate Strike” week, Sept. 20-27, is bringing anarchists and greenies to Manhattan to demonstrate at the UN during the opening week of the General Assembly, leading to an
“International Rebellion” against scientific and industrial progress beginning October 7, organized by the eco-fascist Extinction Rebellion, founded and led by psychedelic drug-user and -promoter Gail Bradbrook.
So Greta could be in very bad company indeed.
You are in a very bad company when you have no money, or too much money.
For those of us whose only reason for entering the US was tourism and visiting the National Parks, getting a visa was quite a serious business, and even with it entry involved further questions and finger- printing and retinal scans.
Gail Bradbrook has been arrested 3 times for civil disobedience and invasion of legitimately operating fracking and power station sites.
Given what this implies about her motives for entering the US should not questions be asked about the wisdom of allowing her a visa, or do the rules not apply to such people. And if so: Why?
Outside the Whitehouse!
Wow! That demonstration is impressive. Almost 2 or 3 deep!! Must be SCORES of people there. /sarc
Again, they can’t help revealing this is not about climate.
At about 27 minutes in, a young protester announces that “this government must realize that the economic system of today will not work with the climate of tomorrow.”
At about 15 years of age he has already mastered Climate Science AND Economics.
They Did manage to get everyone in attendance into the picture though, including the head of the audience member
Wow…several dozen (well, it looks like it must be at least 20) fifth graders who skipped school are gathered to demand a new form of government outside the White House (two words)!
You can see how awful the climate has been where they are gathered, as they stand around singing on green grass near spreading shade trees, attired comfortably in shirtsleeves, with nary a bead of sweat in sight, despite lugging around a large sign!
Some have sweatshirts on, indicating it is a rather cool day even though it is Summertime in scorchingly toasty hot Washington D.C.!
And we all know it is among the hottest weeks of the whole Summer in that part of the US. Turns out a rare backdoor cold front has moved into that region, bringing clouds on an Easterly wind as cool high pressure drops down from Eastern Canada. At 1:30 PM the temp near there is about 67°F (20°C).
It will be a crisis…if she did not bring a nice warm jacket.
SCORE 1 for climate alarmism
OR
1 SCORE for climate alarmism
Greta at the White House
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEWnuYUXsAAK9fF?format=jpg&name=large
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2019/sep/13/greta-thunberg-climate-crisis-protest-white-house-donald-trump-live-news#img-1
“Right now, she is very quietly chanting “hey hey ho ho climate change has got to go” with the other teens on the scene.”
She must practice that scowl, hours in front of a mirror.
Count the cameras in the other photo.
Outside the White House (NB. TWO words!), maybe, probably somewhere on the Mall or Ellipse, but not right outside the White House on Pennsylvania Avenue. Wonder why they are not camped on the sidewalk in front of the main entrance…there they might even run the chance of being arrested and carted off by the Metro Police. Now that would be interesting, but 30 minutes of a bunch of brainwashed adolescents chanting to the direction of some equally-brainwashed adults is sadly lacking in appeal.
This is a good example of orchestrated fake outrage by useful idiots. A busker could generate a bigger crowd with a good card trick.
Alinsky tactics: for when you have zero science backing you. The fact that St. Greta is both female, and still a child very conveniently provides double-cover for the Climate Liars. She’s a God-send to them.
In centuries past girls like her came home with stories of visions of the Virgin Mary plus prophesies about impending doom. Also then the gullibles fell for it. Plus ca change.
The funny thing is, for nearly every single 16 year old I have ever met, especially girls, 16 is more like a young woman than a child or little girl.
Some 16 year old’s look as if they are going on 30.
Here is a link to a Bing search for images of typical 16 year old young woman.
Many look distinctly adult-like. Some look young. I saw none that look like growth stunted little girls.
It is pretty strange iffen you ask me, which no one did.
Still.
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=typical+16+year+old+girl+photos&go=Search&qs=ds&form=QBIR
Gretta is in fact in that lineup you’ve got. 7 pictures past the RISK-TAKING non-picture.
And after careful study of all the girls, Greta is the only one still in pig tails.
Everyone gets a different selection of search results on just about any of the large search engines.
Part based on location, partly on what one has clicked on in the past…
I am not seeing any of her and I scrolled down pretty far.
16 year old singer Taylor Swift:
16 year old daughter of Madonna w/ her mom:
That Swift girl is talented. She can pull her pants down almost to her crotch.
It is a classy look.
Almost as trashy as a whale tail with a tramp stamp.
But light years below the pants around the knees and boxers falling off sported by the young men, although that fashion trend is suffering a noticeable decline on recent years.
Turns out it is hard to outrun the police when your pants are around your ankles.
https://youtu.be/STP79gGVcEs
https://youtu.be/A5AqT2yiiWk
I think though, that Taylor is actually wearing those jeans pulled up.
It is how they are cut.
Distance from crotch to waistband is called the “rise”.
There was a trend for a time to see who could manufacture and sell the lowest rise pants.
Leave the poor girl alone, talk about low hanging fruit.
see Andy comment below.
Like I said, low hanging fruit.
Of no consequence.
Maybe she can escape ?
“There’s no good way to be the center of a media maelstrom you did not choose for yourself.”
Michelle Dean
Ah, but she did chose it for herself, or are you saying she was manipulated by her parents and has thus been abused? Either way she is fair game, to expose her as responsible, or to start an investigation into her parents for abuse. In the majority of states and countries she has reached the age of consent which is mostly 16. In Sweden it is 15.
Now Nick Sandmann is, of course, a totally different matter. A lying liar “native” activist, well known as a activist, harassed him by beating a drum in his face and then going on TV to lie about the situation. And US courts think, so far, that that was OK.
Drake,
I’m of the opinion that some lessons are best learned the hard way, but you can’t just send them out to slaughter.
Unfortunately, that’s exactly what greenie-progressives want when they hide behind these little human shields.
When they start these well-funded movements, they have to be checked – there’s too much at stake.
Leave her alone? Why.
It is she who has put herself in the limelight and her who traveled to the UN to give a speech.
If she wants to tell us what to do and how to do it, then she needs to put up or shut up.
Telling us not to talk about her is just silly. She pretends to be a veteran intelligentsia with wisdom beyond her years, therefor we can treat her as the adult she thinks she is.
Sorry, but I have zero masculinity to throw at anyone, never mind toxic masculinity. I think AOC is a ridiculously self-absorbed twit who hasn’t had an original thought since the day she was conceived, and I have no use at all for the hypocrites who glue themselves to manhole covers and destroy someone else’s property to “save the planet”.
So what does that make me? Just fed up with the whole ecohippie Greenbeaner clown car show.
For them, probably toxic femininity.
Whatever it is, you are radioactive kroptonite to the self-absorbed class.
Anthrocatastrophists come in two forms: those who deny science because they are ignorant and/or indoctrinated and those who profit from promulgating the faith/fear, Chicken Little and Foghorn Leghorn, if you will. Neither flavor of this phenomenon is desirous or capable of addressing any existential (their favorite word) issue.
There will always be the crazy walking in circles on the street corner carrying “The end is nigh” sign and mumbling incoherently. The real problem is not the already-lost but the future-lost. To save the future from becoming the past (scientifically) we must understand and shut down the vectors (for AOC) of indoctrination.
If you think that today’s eco-warriors are idiotic and easily triggered wait until you meet the new crop who have been intensely propagandized from day one. They don’t even know which of the 26 sexes they are much less anything to do with logical thought.
Thanks, Sal, for noting this –
each of my kids have come home from elementary school, after the same edumakation, and told me not to “waste” water – such as by making sure to turn off the tap while brushing my teeth.
So, I get to walk them through this.
Where does the water come from?
the pipes.
where does that water come from?
the treatment plant.
where does that water come from?
the reservoir.
ok, where does the water go when i waste it?
down the pipe.
then where?
treatment plant.
then where?
out to the ocean.
then where?
it evaporates and makes clouds.
then where?
it rains.
where does the rain go?
into streams.
then where?
into the reservoir.
So, where is it wasted? Is some leaving the planet? Isn’t it all just moving from one place to another?
–Marxists are against the Nukelar Family. They want to undercut me, the parent, so they can use the kid in the future as a useful idiot.
With this kind of prep, my kids will hold the belief that School teaches one thing, and Dad teaches another.
School will present themselves as the Authority. [Right. A bunch of elementary school teachers with a bachelors in education versus my degrees and what I have self-taught along the way, including having worked as an environmentalist.]
TLD, I have six grown children who attended public schools in the 80’s, 90’s, and early 2000’s. I had to correct almost everything that they “learned” so, yes there is what Dad teaches vs what the minimally educated teachers throw at them. Kids don’t want to stand out as different so, I told them the truth and also told them that they had to regurgitate what was taught at school (when at school).
They had it easy compared to my 9 year old grandson who had to stand up and identify his sexual identify preference last week.
Hey! I resemble that remark!
While civil people would not support personal attacks based on gender, race, etc. they certainly have reason to criticize those who have influence on public policy when they advocate for social and economic suicide based on imaginary threats supported by no scientific observational evidence. The misguided soul standing on the corner with a sign stating “the end is nigh” is harmless. The politician, influential environmental advocate or liberal billionaire who does the same is massively dangerous to the well-being of people and the Earth. They should be continuously and frequently criticized and the holes in their logic laid bare for all to see. If not then we will remake the world in the image of the now skeletal Venezuela or something even worse.
yep
So. Are female skeptics ‘toxically masculine’ as well?
Ladies? Your opinion?
No. I know I’m not, and I’m quite a skeptic. Thanks for asking! 🙂
Then surely you must be subservient to a toxic male?
They’re worse, e.g., Sarah Myrhe, aka banshee from hell.
Nah, harpy or harridanfrom hell is more apropos.
Any article which uses the phrase “climate denial” has no legitimacy. It really doesn’t matter what the authors have to say, they have disqualified themselves by totally devaluing their own opinion.
Ignore.