Buckets of icy cold reality

Democrat presidential candidates and Green New Dealers need to face some hard energy facts

Guest essay by Paul Driessen

CNN recently hosted a seven-hour climate bore-athon. That climate cataclysms are real and already devastating our planet was not open to discussion. So host Wolf Blitzer and ten Democrat presidential contenders vied to make the most extravagant claims about how bad things are, and who would spend the most taxpayer money and impose the most Green New Deal rules to restrict our freedoms and transform our energy, economy, agriculture and transportation, in the name of preventing further cataclysms.

Cory Booker opened the bidding at $3 trillion. Kamala Harris and Julian Castro raised it to $10 trillion. Bernie Sanders upped it to $16 trillion. Then they got down to the business of telling us which personal choices and living standards they intend to roll back the furthest. Among the proposals:

Ban all commercial air travel (ruling and privileged classes presumably excepted). Change our dietary guidelines or ban beef outright. “Massively” increase taxes. “Make polluters pay” for emitting greenhouse gases. Eliminate onshore drilling, offshore drilling, fracking, coal-fired power plants, internal combustion engines. No new pipelines. In short, ban the fossil fuels that provide 80% of America’s energy! No new nuclear power plants either. And then somehow, amid all that insanity, ensure “climate justice.”

They need to be doused with a few buckets of icy cold reality. The first bucket: We do not face a climate emergency. Computer models certainly predict all kinds of catastrophes. But both the models and the increasingly hysterical assertions of planetary chaos are completely out of touch with reality.

The second, even colder bucket of reality: Wind and sunshine may be free, renewable, sustainable and eco-friendly. But the technologies, lands and raw materials required to harness this widely dispersed, intermittent, weather-dependent energy to benefit humanity absolutely are not. In fact, they cause far more environmental damage than any of the fossil fuel energy sources they would supposedly replace.

Biofuels. US ethanol quotas currently gobble up over 40% of America’s corn – grown on cropland nearly the size of Iowa, to displace about 10% of America’s gasoline. Corn ethanol also requires vast quantities of water, pesticides, fertilizers, natural gas, gasoline and diesel, to produce and transport a fuel that drives up food prices and thus adversely affects food aid and nutrition in poor nations, damages small engines, and gets one-third fewer miles per gallon than gasoline.

Replacing 100% of US gasoline with ethanol would require some 360 million acres of corn. That’s more than twice the land area of Texas. But eliminating fossil fuel production means we’d also have to replace the oil and natural gas feed stocks required for pharmaceuticals, wind turbine blades, solar panel films, paints, synthetic fibers, fertilizers, and plastics for cell phones, computers, eyeglasses, car bodies and countless other products. That would require growing corn on almost four times the area of Texas.

Solar power. Solar panels on Nevada’s Nellis Air Force Base generate a minuscule 15 megawatts of electricity, about 40% of the year, from 72,000 panels on 140 acres. Arizona’s Palo Verde Nuclear Power Plant generates 760 times more electricity, from less land, 90-95% of the time.

Generating Palo Verde’s electricity output using Nellis technology would require acreage ten times larger than Washington, DC. And the solar panels would still provide electricity only 40% of the year.

Generating the 3.9 billion megawatt-hours that Americans consumed in 2018 would mean we would have to completely blanket over twelve million acres – half of Virginia – with solar panels, and get the Sun to shine at high-noon summertime Arizona intensity 24/7/365, wherever we install those panels.

Wind power. Mandated, subsidized wind energy likewise requires millions of acres for turbines and new transmission lines, and billions of tons of concrete, steel, copper, rare earth metals and fiberglass.

Like solar panels, wind turbines produce intermittent, unreliable electricity that costs much more than coal, gas or nuclear electricity – once subsidies are removed – and must be backed up by fossil fuel generators that have to go from standby to full-power many times a day, very inefficiently, every time the wind stops blowing. Turbine blades already kill raptors, other birds and bats – perhaps a million or more every year in the USA alone. Their light flicker and infrasonic noise impair human health.

Modern coal and gas-fired power plants can generate 600 megawatts some 95% of the time from less than 300 acres. Indiana’s Fowler Ridge wind farm also generates 600 megawatts – from 350 towering turbines, sprawling across more than 50,000 acres (much more than Washington, DC), less than 30% of the year.

Now let’s suppose we’re going to use wind power to replace those 3.9 billion megawatt-hours of US electricity consumption. Let’s also suppose we’re going to get rid of all those coal and gas-fired backup power plants, natural gas for home heating, coal and natural gas for factories, and gasoline-powered vehicles – and replace them all with wind-powered electricity. We’ll also use wind turbines to generate enough extra electricity every windy day to charge batteries for just seven straight windless days.

That would require a lot of wind turbines, as we are forced to go into lower and lower quality wind locations. Instead of generating full nameplate power maybe one-third of the year, on average, they will do so only around 16% of the year. Instead of the 58,000 turbines we have now, the United States would need some 14 million turbines, each one 400 feet tall, each one capable of generating 1.8 megawatts at full capacity, when the wind is blowing at the proper speed.

Assuming an inadequate 15 acres apiece, those monster turbines would require some 225 million acres! That’s well over twice the land area of California – without including transmission lines! Their bird-butchering blades would wipe out raptors, other birds and bats across vast stretches of America.

But every turbine really needs at least 50 acres of open space, and Fowler Ridge uses 120 acres per turbine. That works out to 750 million acres (ten times Arizona) – to 1,800 million acres (ten times Texas or nearly the entire Lower 48 United States)! Eagles, hawks, falcons, vultures, geese and other high-flying birds and bats would virtually disappear from our skies. Insects and vermin would proliferate.

Manufacturing those wind turbines would require something on the order of 4 billion tons of steel, copper and alloys for the towers and turbines; 8 billion tons of steel and concrete for the foundations; 4 million tons of rare earth metals for motors, magnets and other components; 1 billion tons of petroleum-based composites for the nacelle covers and turbine blades; and massive quantities of rock and gravel for millions of miles of access roads to the turbines. Connecting our wind farms and cities with high-voltage transmission lines would require still more raw materials – and more millions of acres.

All these raw materials must be mined, processed, smelted, manufactured into finished products, and shipped all over the world. They would require removing hundreds of billions of tons of earth and rock overburden – and crushing tens of billions of tons of ore – at hundreds of new mines and quarries.

Every step in this entire process would require massive amounts of fossil fuels, because wind turbines and solar panels cannot operate earth moving and mining equipment – or produce consistently high enough heat to melt silica, iron, copper, rare earth or other materials.

Not once did CNN’s hosts or any of the Green New Deal presidential candidates so much as mention any of this. To them, “renewable” energy will just happen – like manna from Gaia, or beamed down from the Starship Enterprise.

They must no longer be allowed to dodge these issues, to go from assuming the climate is in crisis, to assuming “reliable, affordable, renewable, sustainable, eco-friendly” alternatives to fossil fuel (and nuclear) energy will just magically appear, or can simply be willed or subsidized into existence.

Citizens, newscasters, debate hosts and legislators who are more firmly grounded in reality need to confront Green New Dealers with hard questions and icy cold facts – and keep repeating them until candidates provide real answers. No more dissembling, obfuscation or incantations permitted.

Paul Driessen is senior policy analyst for the Committee For A Constructive Tomorrow (www.CFACT.org) and author of books and articles on energy, climate, environmental and human rights issues.

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September 12, 2019 7:45 am

William Haas
In England “sea cole” was used in households more that 300 years ago.
Decades ago, a ran across a delightful article about using coal in the fireplace in the bedroom. Obviously for the well-to-do.
The precursor to the newspaper was the “broadsheet”.
And one published in Newcastle (where the coal came from) in 1625 had a self serving article about using coal in the bedroom.
Because, with the warmth and light “It hath heightened the joys of intimacy.”

Rod Everson
September 12, 2019 8:00 am

From the article: “Citizens, newscasters, debate hosts and legislators who are more firmly grounded in reality need to confront Green New Dealers with hard questions and icy cold facts – and keep repeating them until candidates provide real answers.”

The real reason it’s impossible to get climate alarmists, the famous ones who’ve led the effort now, not the hangers on like the current crop of Democrat candidates, is that every single one of them is on record making outrageous forecasts that never materialized. They would stand no chance in a debate because all their opponents need do is quote their opponents’ old predictions and then state reality as it stands today, followed with the debate-winning “Why should we believe your dire forecasts today when you were not only wrong before, but you were so wrong that the opposite happened instead?”

Cite an example previously provided by the alarmist opponent present (and every prominent alarmist has provided one, I suspect), stand back, and listen to the sputtering reply. There would be no recovery possible which is why you can never get them into a forum where they have to face a knowledgable opponent. As for CNN, in the best interests of their viewers they could have demonstrated some skepticism, but chose instead to continue to mislead them.

Three examples come to mind for starters,leaving aside all the “It will be too late by the year _____” nonsense:

–Hurricane intensity and frequency will increase (followed by a decade when no Cat 3 hit the U.S.)
–The Great Lakes will gradually recede (followed by their filling to record levels today.)
–The Arctic will be ice free by some date that has already passed (followed by obvious ice still present.)
–Your favorite example?

Toss in a few side comments about dying bats and raptors, rising consumer electricity prices everywhere renewables have been mandated, and the cost to taxpayers of all the subsidies thus far, and let the audience decide who won the debate.

Reply to  Rod Everson
September 12, 2019 9:20 am

Several months ago, CNN aired a Town Hall meeting with former Vice president Gore. Someone made a serious mistake and let the Mayor of Tangier Island speak. He told the VP that his life-time home, Tangier Island, a “poster-child” for sea level rise, wasn’t suffering from sea level rise at all, based on personal observation over several decades.
The former VP blustered that “scientists tell us”, but never addressed the Mayor’s first hand observed data.
I’d love to see more of this, but I’m guessing that CNN is redoubling its efforts to screen who speaks in Town Hall meetings.

Rod Everson
Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
September 12, 2019 9:53 am

Jim, that’s an example, but it needs to be more targeted to be effective. Now, if Gore had specifically said thatTangier Island would be submerged by some specific date, preferably a date that has already passed, then he could be quoted by the Mayor, followed by his personal observation rendering Gore’s forecast ridiculous. Under those circumstances, there would be no possible recovery other than denying he ever said it. Blustering that “scientists tell us” would be a waste of time. He’d be pinned. And by “pinned” I mean that everything else he says would be discounted severely, even by a largely sympathetic audience.

Again, I believe this is exactly why prominent alarmists refuse to debate publicly. They know they are extremely vulnerable to this tactic.

September 12, 2019 8:31 am

Paul,
Great write up.
But, you forgot to mention at the end, that even after using all those materials and building out all those turbines…they will all have to be replaced in only TEN or TWENTY years!
Many will be failing right from the get go.
And no one can live near one!

John F. Hultquist
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
September 12, 2019 12:31 pm

And no one can live near one!

An easily refuted statement, because many people do.
link to photo

It does not help the skeptical view to make false statements.
As mother said: Tell the truth and you do not have to remember your fibs.

Drake
Reply to  John F. Hultquist
September 12, 2019 4:42 pm

Please provide the google earth satellite view of this wind farm location. The picture provided could easily show the houses quite some distance in the foreground with the bird choppers in the forest, possible over a mile away. Perspective with towers so tall can be very deceptive and I can see tall trees behind the houses and in front of the turbine towers and the tallest nearest tower clearly shows the other 3 are farther away.

Famously to Americans who know soldiers who served in Iraq, the camel spider, which they all seemed to have pictures like the following to show how HUGE the spiders were.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjf38jnt8zkAhXTKH0KHcoABBwQjRx6BAgBEAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.liveabout.com%2Fare-camel-spiders-real-urban-legends-4686604&psig=AOvVaw0OvWVb1iR8AdCmZBr2WFbB&ust=1568417278133216

comment image&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.camel-spiders.net%2F&docid=3Q9xM6m5LpIqFM&tbnid=clTCMCRvRv_T9M%3A&vet=10ahUKEwi6qOXmt8zkAhUEup4KHcMTBqwQMwhoKAQwBA..i&w=395&h=296&bih=947&biw=1678&q=camel%20spider%20in%20iraq&ved=0ahUKEwi6qOXmt8zkAhUEup4KHcMTBqwQMwhoKAQwBA&iact=mrc&uact=8

And if you know many fishermen, they tend to take a picture of their big fist held away from their body toward the cameras to use perspective to make the fish appear bigger than it is. Is that what the photographer intended with the picture you posted?

This is basically a web site frequented by skeptical people and I am skeptical of your picture and your purpose.

Reply to  John F. Hultquist
September 13, 2019 4:55 am

John,
Various regulations in various places set down standards for minimum distance from a turbine to a home or inhabited area.
Many governments stipulate a separation of at least 2 kilometers between a wind farm and any town village or city.
Quebec bans them within 2km of homes and within 1 km of a road.
Some proposed regulations have stipulated a distance of no less that ten times the height of the turbine. With many turbines in excess of 400′ tall, and some onshore turbines at least 574′ tall, and at least one type of turbine over 800′ tall.
One locale in Iowa just enacted a moratorium with a 1.5 mile minimum setback.
Ohio has a minimum setback of 1250′, and that is not to a house but to a property line.

Anyone who would live within throwing distance of a runaway turbine is insane. Anyone who builds one near someone else should be liable for any damages if and when it is proven how harmful turbines are to human health, tranquility, and happiness, to property values, and any other unforeseen harms that may result.

Wind Turbine Syndrome(WTS) has been documented going back at least as far as the early 1970’s, and has been found to occur as far as 10-12 km from the location of a turbine. At least one study found 70% of respondents have WTS at a distance of 5 km.

-Bavaria enacted the 10x height setback minimum, and additional nighttime noise reg of 35 db
-Setback proposal of 2 km makes 65% of Poland off limits for turbines
-Denmark Min. 4x turbine height, no exceptions. Also strict regulations on sound often override these. Extra penalties and setbacks for audible noise.
-South Dakota has an least one region with a 1 mile minimum, to any home or property line.

-New Hampshire: Within 1 mile, max 8 hrs/year of shadow flicker, sound of < 40-45db depending on time of day, setbacks case by case but must consider ice throw, tower collapse, blade shear, etc

Maine: Noise limits, with 24/7 limits on noise of 55 db for distances of over 500', and much stricter within 500'

I expect many lawsuits in the years to come from any locale which has failed to protect the rights of people who have had these useless and harmful monstrosities built near them.

As for your picture: You call that living? To me a state of constant oppressive noise and danger is hardly living. How close are those homes.
I can tell you what else does not help skeptics views: People who claim to be skeptics but suffer from the slowly boiling frog syndrome.

I do not lie, on purpose, ever.
I also do not call people liars unless it is very clear they are doing so.

Let me ask you this: How close would you be willing to live to a 400+ foot tall wind turbine?
How close would you allow someone to build one to a neighbors home or property?
If you would not live under one, or opine that it ought to be legal to let someone build one near someone else's home, what does it mean when you say people can live near them and any other opinion is a lie?

Prjindigo
September 12, 2019 9:29 am

pffft… banning air travel would instantly increase the surface temp by more than a degree F

September 12, 2019 1:10 pm

Manufacturing those wind turbines would require something on the order of 4 billion tons of steel, copper and alloys for the towers and turbines; 8 billion tons of steel and concrete for the foundations;

Not clear how the total of 12 billion tons break down into each material, but to put things in perspective:

In 2014 the entire world produced:
1,600 million tonnes (metric tons) of steel
~10,000 million tonnes of concrete
19.1 million tonnes of copper (2015 figures)

I haven’t looked up more recent figures, but I assume with the pickup in economic activity the amounts produced in 2018 would be somewhat larger.

So all those wind turbines would require at least 2 years of world steel production and a substantial portion of a year’s world concrete production. Probably a year or more of world copper production as well.

It’s not going to happen, but you can’t tell that to the faithful.

Mickey Reno
September 12, 2019 1:38 pm

Who cares about the little crap? What about the BIG stuff? Is Beto’s hair nice and neat, and are his teeth clean, and is his flat tire now fixed? Wait, a Democrat that drives a car? What gives? Oh well, just ignore your cognitive dissonance and nod like a good little cultist. That’s what really matters, I suppose, if we’re to guess at the meaning of Beto’s YouTube videos. Oh, and Bernie, the AOC flavor of socialist loved by Cenk Uyger and Anna Kasparian? Don’t we want their sensibilities governing us? Or, do we settle for a “centrist” like creepy Uncle Joe or opportunist extraordinaire, Kamala Harris? Oh, and how do we feel about school busing, now that we’re remembering the 1960s? The best source of Kamala news comes from a weekly podcast I listen to religiously, called Radio Free California, hosted by Will Swaim and David Bahnsen… https://www.nationalreview.com/podcasts/national-reviews-radio-free-california-podcast/ … one of the regular weekly podcasts at National Review.

JoeG
September 13, 2019 4:12 am

I am waiting for one of them to say that every house and building needs to have both solar panels and small wind turbines to be self-powering. That way no new land is affected and energy demands are met.

It’s coming…

Doug Kauffman
September 16, 2019 1:00 pm

SNIP

Way off base – Mod

Dave Magill
September 24, 2019 8:17 am

Aren’t the numbers of wind turbines and solar panels low by a factor of almost 3?

3.9B MWh is the electricity currently used in the USA. Electricity currently accounts for 38% of US energy. They are also planning on replacing the other 62%. For example ICE to EVs and home heating by gas/oil to electricity are “relatively” easy endpoint conversions requiring roughly another 3.9B MWh.

Also, since USA produces only 15% of global emissions, seems we (or someone in the world) also have to pay for the other 85% to be converted. Even if they would, the raw materials needed are off by a factor of almost 7.