Aussie Climate Crusader Turns Wind Power Nimby

Aussie Green Activist Bob Brown. By Australian Greens website – Australian Greens, CC BY-SA 2.5 au, Link

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

h/t JoNova – Former Greens leader Bob Brown, leader of a recent high profile electric car expedition to protest the Adani coal mine, has finally discovered a place of natural beauty which is too precious to spoil with ugly wind turbine monstrosities.

Crusader Brown turns against wind farm

Monday, July 15, 2019 
GRAHAM LLOYD
ENVIRONMENT EDITOR

Former Greens leader and veteran activist Bob Brown is campaigning to stop a $1.6 billion wind farm development in Tasmania because it will spoil the view and kill birds. 

The proposed Robbins Island wind farm in Tasmania’s northwest will be one of the world’s biggest, with up to 200 towers measuring 270m high from ground to blade tip.

If it goes ahead, electricity from the Robbins Island project will be sent to the mainland via a new undersea cable to help make Tasmania a “battery for the nation”.

But in a letter to local media and on his foundation’s website, Dr Brown has slammed the project, which he said had echoes of earlier attempts to build skyscrapers in Hobart which were stopped by protests.

Despite the criticisms levelled at former prime minister Tony Abbott and treasurer Joe Hockey for describing wind turbines as “ugly”, Dr Brown said the Robbins Island plan was, visually, a step too far. “Mariners will see this hairbrush of tall towers from 50km out to sea and elevated landlubbers will see it, like it or not, from greater distances on land,” Dr Brown said. “Its eye-catchiness will divert from every coastal scene on the western Bass Strait coastline.”

Read more: https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/former-greens-leader-brown-declares-war-on-wind-farm/news-story/e18af2b914517377bad4dddae68fb440

Makes you wonder where Bob Brown, who is mostly based in nearby Hobart, intends to retire.

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78 thoughts on “Aussie Climate Crusader Turns Wind Power Nimby

    • Doc Brown will have to figure out the Flux Capacitor and tie it into the turbine production to boost the battery storage back to the future

        • You seem to forget, the Greens know full well that with Globul Warming there will be massive thunderstorms with lightening strikes on a daily basis, therefore it makes sense to hook up a lightening conductor to the Flux Capacitor with a direct feed into the turbines guaranteeing a constant 1.21GW of power! That way everyone in Oz will be able to play Johnny B Goode at full volume at the same time! That way, with luck, the Greens will be sent back to the Future, hopefully by a couple of hundred years or more!!!! 😉 I just hope Biff isn’t lurking around somewhere! 🙁

  1. What’s the punishment for heresy for senior climate cultists? There isn’t any. Cognitive dissonance has it covered.

  2. Bob Brown went to the Animal Farm School for Pig Administrators; some people, projects, and ideas are more equal, depending of course on whether if effects Bob Brown and his associates.

    • ++++ yeah
      hes quite happy for everyone else to endure that eyesore and the birds to be shredded everywhere else too.
      mans an utter hypocrite and always was

  3. ”Former Greens leader and veteran activist Bob Brown is campaigning to stop a $1.6 billion wind farm development in Tasmania because it will spoil the view and kill birds. ”

    Yes this is funny. So up until now it was perfectly fine if it spoiled someone else’s view and killed their local birds? I’ve said it before….the Greens are on thin ice and I hear cracking noises.

  4. The main reason Brown is against this project being built here is it “would require a path to be cut right through the Tarkine wilderness a temperate rainforest. It is also right in the flight path of critically endangered, migratory swift parrots and orange-bellied parrots.”

    • I do not like these windmills on many grounds and have to agree with Mr Brown on stopping them here. However. would not any sensible engineer connect this thing to the grid at Smithton or Stanley on the coast? There is no need to go anywhere near the Tarkine in my humble opinion. The Orange Bellied Parrot was used by the Greens to stop turbines in Gippsland years ago and may well serve the purpose again. The Swift Parrot is not exclusive to Tassie so may not be quite as useful as a stopper. But as the saying goes the enemy of my enemy is my friend and if we can turn the greens back on themselves in opposing turbines well and good. It could prove to be a useful precedent.

      • The Orange Bellied Parrot is exclusive to Tasmania only in summer, it winters in Victoria. The Swift Parrot also breeds only in Tasmania but has a larger winter distribution from eastern SA to southern NSW.

        And mr Brown is right about one thing – this wind farm is exactly on the Orange Bellied’s migration route and might quite well be the final straw for this critically endangered species.

        Though the greenies usually emphatically deny that birds are killed by wind farms.

    • So, because it is Swift Parrots and Orange Bellied Parrots it’s bad, but I suppose if it were just common Golden Eagles, other raptors and/or bats being chewed up in the blades it would be OK?

    • This brings up a good issue. That is — Where To Place A Wind Farm?
      Broadly speaking, there are 3 main types of sites to be considered.
      @ Loydo:
      Let’s see what your choice is.
      Here are the options:
      1) Fully developed urban areas. The natural environment has already been transformed into an urban landscape of concrete and pavement. No further environmental degradation likely.

      2) Suburban, residential areas. A big plus here is that the power is generated right in the vicinity where it is used. That cuts out long transmission lines, the transmission line corridors which cut through rural areas, and transmission line losses.

      3) Rural areas. The rural folk are relatively few in number and opposition can be flattened by the overwhelming numbers and money of the urban population. And of course, the rural location means it is not in anybody’s urban or suburban backyard.

      So @Loydo, what do we have? Choice 1 or 2 or 3?
      What about it all you WUWT fans, what say you all, let’s have a poll.
      Me, I am a Country Gent. I vote for option 1, put them right where they will do the most good.
      If none of the three general options are acceptable, then maybe it is time to admit that wind farms are no damn good and cause more harm than good.

      And no, we are not going to entertain any notions of a mythical “perfect” location which is so far out it is not in anybody’s back yard, but at the same time is not “unspoiled wilderness”.
      Have at it.

      • 1 in back yard of every elected official. Local State and Federal
        2 in the back yard of every company director involved in the design, construction, maintenance ownership and operation of these things
        3 in the crack of mount doom

        • Excellent idea. Hook them up to large resistance heaters and melt off some excess ice with earth-friendly, renewable, clean energy. 🙂

      • “3) Rural areas. The rural folk are relatively few in number and opposition can be flattened by the overwhelming numbers and money of the urban population. And of course, the rural location means it is not in anybody’s urban or suburban backyard.”
        The largest industrial scale wind power station in rural Ontario has been finally forced to derate more than half of their turbines, after four years of residents’ reports of harm. This information is in the public domain.
        https://london.ctvnews.ca/turbines-near-goderich-to-be-slowed-down-to-reduce-sound-1.4487408
        Audible noise is not the only source of harm from turbines. Listen to the presentation given by Dr. Mariana Alves-Pereira, given to professionals in Slovenia in 2018 regarding the cumulative and irreversible harm to the neurological system and to the vestibular system from LFN modulations and infrasound. She has publicly stated that knowing what she now knows about the harm, she would not live within 20 km from a turbine.

      • “Have at it!”
        The windfarm of Corpus Christi, Texas is still expanding N, based on the offloading of components at Harbor Island as of yesterday. They are in a crude mosaic of (1) (2) (3) moving into (4) where the whooping cranes are expanding S. Plenty of wind much of the time, users nearby, not sure of costs, oldest ones look like they may be leaking oil. They are expanding into what was the severe wind field of Harvey, no test there.

        Rockport, of Harvey fame, had already lost its place as “the” coastal migratory bird place in Texas due to development, now increasingly mostly for fishing and Corpus bedroom community, made possible by cheap gasoline. It is (was) the most southern significant tree forest north of the Rio Grande on the water for migratory birds crossing the Gulf. Development killed more than Harvey, trees important wind buffer.

        Navigation District just finished its new office. No surge there at their floor elevation from Harvey, has been in other storms. They expanded the harbor, did not know about the 26 thousand year old rocks. Some days it feels like California.

      • Perhaps on the Abyssal Plain
        A possibility for large cities, like NY NY … atop all large buildings and or suspended between them crossing streets
        Of course in the Back Yards of every Green Politician is also a good option.

    • The Tarkine is in a lot of trouble, and AFAIK no green has noticed. Eucalypts are invading from the south, and have already seriously degraded the rainforest. The more the eucalypts there are, the faster they spread, because their fires get more intense. The eucalypts have now established a significant presence on the north side of the Pieman river, so there is nothing in their way which can stop them destroying the rest of the Tarkine.

      It’s the same process that has been going on for thousands of years and has seen huge areas of Australia’s original forests replaced by eucalypts. Rainforest now occurs only in relatively small pockets, like the Tarkine.

    • Don’t know where you got the quote from but I agree with you in regards the birds and I would add to the list wedge tail and sea eagles, but… “would require a path to be cut right through the Tarkine wilderness a temperate rainforest”, well Robbins Island is primarily agricultural ground famous for its Wagu beef with hardly a tree on it. There is no ”Tarkine wilderness” that’s well inland on the main island of Tasmania.
      Brown’s a hypocrite. At the height of the Franklin dam protests he even advocated a coal fired power station to save his precious river. Classic NIMBY (not in my back yard) with this one, especially as he is an avid activist advocating mitigating man made climate change.
      “Its eye-catchiness will divert from every coastal scene on the western Bass Strait coastline.” Can’t spoil the view can we.

    • Don’t worry, if this scheme gets the go-ahead they’ll soon of parrots that cease to be, no more of this mortal coil. They will be………”dead parrots!” Cue sketch! 😉

  5. I find Dr Brown’s comments offensive. Hairbrushes are triggering for the folically challenged.

  6. So then, reality finally caught up with an Ecohippie, in a rather odd way???

    Hey, if it works, it works. Doesn’t matter what it takes to make someone like him snap out of it. Let’s hope this aberration has lifted the veil from his eyes in other ways.

    • Do not count on it, Sara.
      He does not want one of these vile, evil wind farms in his backyard.
      I will bet you a cup of coffee that he will continue to vigorously advocate for world-saving wind farms in your backyard.

  7. For those not family with Australia’s Corpse Who Walks, Brown is not only a green, he is perhaps THE Green.

    Back in the day there was a move to build a new dam in Tasmania. People were upset and the ‘No Dams’ movement sprung up, of which Brown was a prominent member. No Dams evolved no long after that into a formal political party – The Greens. Brown became elected as a Senator for Tasmania, an event that probably has more to do with the way the Senator system works in Australia than his true political popularity, and proceeded until his retirement from politics to play the political role of someone public enough to be allowed to speak, but not powerful enough to even have to risk having to physically act on his words. To broadly paraphrase, he and his little fringe party were the people who could stand up and promise a free unicorn for every child under 15, but never have to actually explain where they were going to ethically source several million unicorns from because they weren’t the actual government.

    The Media, of course, loved him and him and the Greens were considered a rational and refreshing alternative to the stuffy old fashioned and compassionless major parties. 90% of voting Australians consistently voted for someone else, but the Love Media still insisted on seeking their wisdom constantly because the Love Media knows what is best for us.

    Brown, in basic summary, WAS The Greens. He helped found it. He led it in Canberra. He spoke for it on Australian TVs. Unlike the watermelons (green on the outside, but red to the core) that came later to his party, Brown was a true blue lime (green on the outside, green in the middle and really really bitter) and cared – in his own way – about the environment.

    So for Brown to suddenly go full on NIMBY on us over a windfarm? Comedy gold, platinum, silver and chrome with oak leaves and diamonds!

    #StopRobbins

  8. This time he is completely right, but is he finally come to his senses right, or stopped clock right?

  9. That is the way it is with progressive socialists… the required sacrifices are always supposed to be someone else’s sacrifice to “Save the planet.”
    – Some one else’s devastated property value,
    – Some one else’s destroyed wilderness views for the windmills,
    – Some one else’s unaffordable electricity,
    – Some one else’s sitting in a dark cold house because the power grid went dark.

    There really is only one solution with these types, and it is quite simple for a democracy:
    never ever let them acquire political power over the masses or your money.

  10. I love the smell of napalm hypocrisy in the morning.

    cf John Kerry and F-a-a-a-a-a-t Albert! Gore. Add Bob Brown to the list.

  11. And this is a link to his famous ‘Earthians’ speech, which gives you an idea of what kind of a fruitcake he was:
    https://greensmps.org.au/articles/bob-brown-delivers-3rd-annual-green-oration

    As you can see from the link, this is on the official Australian Greens website – its not a send-up!
    For those wanting a short preview:

    “For comprehensive Earth action, an all-of-the-Earth representative democracy is required. That is, a global parliament.

    In his Gettysburg address of 1859, Abraham Lincoln proclaimed: ‘We here highly resolve… that government of the people, by the people, and for the people, shall not perish from the Earth.’

    153 years later, let us here in Hobart, and around the world, highly resolve that through global democracy we shall save the Earth from perishing.

    For those who oppose global democracy the challenge is clear: how else would you manage human affairs in this new century of global community, global communications and shared global destiny?”
    Obviously he is a ‘globalist’…and now a hypocrite.

  12. Wind power is so niche it hurts, yes it makes sense in the “roaring forties” (though they are sometimes the whispering forties), but how many places in the world are near enough? Tasmania is one of the few places, but the notion that wind power will “Save The Planet” is ignorant nonsense, though it might make sense from a purely local economic perspective, displacing imports of fossil fuels.

    • “battery for the nation” is also nonsense. It is the nation that provides the battery for wind power, taking any surplus, and supplying any deficit.

  13. There is a massive conundrum with wind farms. “Green” energy but birds get munched. You can not have it both ways. The monstrosities proposed would have been a pain to service and would more than likely collapse due to the rather powerful winds in Bass straight. It would be billions down the drain as well as ongoing subsidies from the Australian taxpayer.
    I would hazard a guess that when they fail, these monsters will not be removed, which will use a lot of energy and $$$$. A continuing eyesore and a reminder of human stupidity.
    For a change, Bob Brown is right on this one-it really is just too much, not that wind turbines have any rational justification.
    The wind turbines should be built where voters voted for them- Warringah. Zali Steggall , Greens and Labor were all falling over each other to be greener than green. As they have rolled Tony Abbott, Zali should put her money where her mouth is and have windmills for Warringah- She will build them on the beaches, she will build them in the malls. She will build them on the headlands, wherever the wind shall blow.

  14. Let no-one forget, Bob Brown got his start in the Green movement by leading opposition to a renewable energy hydro scheme – the Gordon-below-Franklin in Western Tasmania. He is just returning to his roots in his senility.

  15. I recently traveled by train in the north of my native Netherlands. What struck me was that there was a stretch of some 50km without windmills, not one to be seen. The locals are vehemently against them to the point that they threaten sabotage with reports of people even having stockpiled explosives. What’s really interesting , however, is that also the local governments are actively against. There are plans for a huge windmill park in the middle of the province of Drenthe. In order to build the monsters you need to transport the parts which are so big that under preexisting law special permits have to be issued to allow for road closures and other measures. The local authorities refuse to issue the permits. It will be interesting how this pans out.

  16. A better argument against wind farms is contained in a recent survey of wind farms. which found that turbines, especially large turbines, are failing at an accelerated rate from that predicted by their builders and also cost more to maintain, to the extent that their power costs are double what they promised.

  17. Oh no, he still believes in wind turbines. Just not near him, just put it in the poorer parts of the countryside.

  18. Anthony, I realise that to properly explain Bob Browns rise to political
    power takes a lot of test, but I cannot shorten it. So you decide if its best in two parts, or even the possibility that some “”Wordsmith”” makes a full article of it.

    This matter of Federal over Stat power made it all the way to the Australian High Court. I still cannot understand how the Judges finally ruled in favour of the Federal Government.

    Michael.

    ——————————————————————————

    Craig from OZ, July 16. sums it up well, but it goes back to a very minor matter, that is to the rest of us. that of Lake Pedder in Tasmania, it was a dam which created the lake or perhaps enlarged it.

    Now Tasmania unlike the rest of Australia which is mostly flat, has lots of high mountains on its West side. It is a natural for Hydro electric power and a government body, the Tasmanian Hydro electric Commission had over the years brought the small population of Tasmania cheap and of course very realisable electricity. Which of course was very green.

    Tasmania was apart from a few mines, a very rural community, and was thus Conservative in its politics. There was a lot of Federal Crown land on the island.

    Bob Brown was a keen bushwalker and was concerned that Tasmania
    reman a isolated bit of Greenery, unlike the mainland, especially the likes of NSW and Queensland.

    Now just as with a recent proposal in NSW to raise a existing dam wall,
    to reduce the flooding in the area, this is being opposed by the usual Green propaganda, that some small creature will be drowned, it was proposed to raise the Dam at Lake Pedder just a little to increase the power potential at a minimum cost.

    Now up till then Bob Brown had never objected to Lake Pedder, as we
    sensible folk already know, a Dam created Lake is just as nice as a natural one, and the wild life love them.

    So what was he problem with Lake Pedder. While I think it may have
    simply been a case in Brown’s thinking of a “Dam too far “”, officially it was because there was a tiny sandy beach which had formed and that would disappear as the water rose.

    Now initially Browne supporters would have been few in number, just
    fellow bushwalkers but events elsewhere changed all of that . World wide this was the time of the of the “”Hippy movement”, people who considered that the World owned them a living. But just as right now the Social security, i.e. the Dole, was not sufficient to cover the cost of such things as renting or worse buying a property.

    Many moved to North Queensland, the tropics, and were happy at finding a beach not too far from a post office which they could use to collect their dole cheque. But a lot in Victoria, th Southern State, they moved to Tasmania and took up residence on Crown Land.

    This was the time of the Hawke-Keating Labour Government, and Hawke knew that as Hippies always voted for whatever government would pay then for not working, so would always voted Labour. Thus he did not remove them from the Crown Land.

    They cut down many trees and built some quite good houses,amd lived by their standards a good carefree life. So of course they were natural “Useful Idiaots”” just waiting for the likes of a Bob Brown to comer along.

    The early Greens campaign about Lake Pedder failed, but the publicity from the Media encouraged Bob Brown and the next big event was about to happen. The Tasmanian Hydro got the go ahead from the Liberal (Conservative) government of Tasmania to commence the very big project of what became known as “The Gordon below Franklin”” scheme.

    Now we had already had the giant sized Snowy Mountains scheme, plus the Victorian bit, the Kiewa scheme, both had been pre WW2 projects and it was with a largely ethnic work force, recent migrants , it was finally built.

    It involved damming a previously wild and fast flowing river “”The Snowy” which headed to the East and into the sea, to be instead turned around to the West and via numerous Hydro electric turbines, finally into the inland river system of the Murray Darling , enabling vast irritation systems to be commenced.

    Now while at the time it was considered to be a wonderful bit of engineering, later the Greens said that it was the death of the Snowy, a wild and natural river system. Just as of now the Greens wanted all things to stay the same, no progress.

    So back to Tasmania in the 1980 tees, the Hippy time. The proposed Gordon below the Franklin rivers was a major undertaking, this was no small scale version of Lake Pedder, a far better comparison would be with the now completed Snowy scheme. ”The weather pattern over Australia is a West to East air movement, with a dip South in the winter and a rise to the North in the summer.

    The high mountains to the wet of Tasmania collect all of this moisture, which then via the Gordon ends up in the sea. It was proposed to drill through the Mountains going East, then to Dam the Franklin and put all of its waters through the tulle to the East. On the way it would of course just as with the Snowy pass through many turbines and produce lots and lots of cheep electricity, so much that there would be the possibility ova a submarine cable, to export it to the State of Victoria to become a part of the Eastern States, plus South Australian grid system.

    A added benefit would be irrigation of the central part of Tasmania, which while in comparison with the rest of Australia was well watered, was in fact a bit dry as it was in the “”Rain shadow”” of the Mountains to its West.

    So lots of cheap electricity, the prospects of being the battery to mainland Australia , plus irrigation of the darkish centre of the Island. Whatever could possibly go wrong with such a good idea. . Now note, there was never any mention of Global warming plies CC all due to CO2, It was all about Tree hugging, back to nature semi Green types who liked things just the way it was, no changes needed, and certainly no mention about “”Saving the Planet”That all came later.
    ————————————————————————-

    End of part one, Part two will cover how the Media changed everything, and that sniffing the Political breeze, of a darkening sky, PM Bob Hawke decided to use this matter as a election issue. He was facing defeat in his seat in Victoria, and needed a issue. But a big snag was that Tasmania was while he smallest State, it was still legally a State, thus the Federal Government could not tell them what to do., especially as it had a Liberal (Conservative) government.
    How he got over that makes very interesting political history.

    MJE VK5ELL

    • The above comment is nonsensical in its ignorance. The original Lake Pedder was a small isolated natural lake that as I recall could only be reached by air. The lake was quite beautiful due to its sandy beach and natural surroundings. The proposed (now existing) dam would flood the entire area including the original pristine lake. Its now a large hydroelectric lake similar to any other.

  19. I would like to agree that Bob Browneye has lost all credibility.

    But he never had any in the first place.

  20. His math and knowledge are quite off, as is his science.
    For a tower with a height of 100 m, the horizon distance is 35.7 km.
    So with a 270 m height, the hairbrush would be visible at 96 km if the base was at sea-level.

    • It’s not that simple, the Earth is round (approximately), so visibility distance does not increase linearly with height. A 270 m high tower will be visible from about 58 kilometers away from purely geometrical consideration (if seen from eye-level, 1.7 m). However atmospheric refraction must also be factored in which (on average) increases the visibility distance to about 63 km. However it will vary considerably depending on the temperature profile.

      So he is approximately right though a bit low. However “mariners” are usually more than 1.7 meters above sea-level, so 70 km might be more correct than 50 km.

  21. Hahaha, here we go again. You would need the brain of a sea sponge to think that Brown was being a nimby. It takes true integrity to put the welfare of the orange bellied parrot above ones lifetimes love of wind turbines.
    And dont forget the yellow bellied skunk. And where did Turney plant all those kukri trees to offset his footprint when he proved that all the ice had melted in Antartica? Exacterly, STOP these particular wind turbines NOW

  22. I am amazed that after Australia threw Brian Caffyn out with his Zeehan Zinc fiasco plus his Evergreen/ UPC/IVPC (mafia) then First Wind, they let him do this.
    He’s another Jeffrey Epstein now in Indonesia and have no doubt involved with other nefarious endeavors and connected to CIA.

  23. My part one of July 17th.

    PART TWO.

    For more detail about Green versus economic interests see “” Our wide
    brown land”” by Adam Morton. “The Franklin river would be dammed today””

    Its difficult to point a finger at who is responsible for a given action, but it seems this PM Fraser was the one who proposed the World Heritage Listing of the Franklin, but it was Bob Hawke who had just become Opposition leader, who took full advantage of it in his “”Look at me, I am so very Green” election campaign. Both the then PM and Hawke were playing the Green emotion card, but remember back then there was no mention of CO2 and to saving the world. That was all in the future..

    If a future Liberal National government, both Federal and Tasmania were to re-open the matter again, it would still be based on the “”Wild River” excuse, so any major economic issues could swing it back in favour of it going ahead.

    While the now PM Hawke looed at offshore island laws, it was a refer back to PM Fraser submission to the UN to place the Tasmanian Franklin river on the World Heritage listing which was finally considered by the High Court decision, a 4 to 3 in favour of stopping the Dam project.

    Australian politicians love to stride the World stage in the UN buildings in New York. Sadly long term such decisions come back to bite future governments.

    The likes of Bob Brown promised that “”Saving” the wild rivers would be of benefit to all of Australians. Sadly most people are too busy earning a living and also far too old when retired to tramp along a wilderness area to view the rushing waters…

    When later commercial interests wanted to organise a tour of such areas , Brown and Co violently objected saying that only bushwalkers should be allowed.

    If vie follow the basic rule of a democracy that it should always be the
    “Greater Good”” factor which determines such decisions, the Greens would miss out.

    Later on, possibly as people start to question this tendency to only be for the favoured free, we see the introduction of the good gas CO2 being demonised and that was followed by “Save the Planet””
    “Think of the children’s children’s. “”

    MJE VK5ELL

  24. R e. my Part one and two on Bob Brown, I forgot to mention the big Media Event which really got the Green Ball rolling. The Dam workers turned up on the Gordon, and were met with a flotilla of small
    “”Rubbie Duckies” boats. The Media had of course being told what was about to happen.

    So the Greens tried to stop the worker, and the Police intervened.
    fighting broke out and hundreds were arrested.

    The Media was delighted and that was when it became a big election issue.

    MJE VK5ELLi

  25. Green is a beautiful colour. I hate to see it associated with such a load of s..t which is the colour of and consistency of the complainant

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